As a native PNW’er and a fishing guide we need you to come to bat with us regarding the salmon, steelhead and sturgeon decline on the Columbia River. Between sealions, cormorants and other predators and the argument regarding hatchery production you could make an entire series on this.
Alot of folks in town knew that kid was out there that year. He trashed and ransacked alot of cabins during that time, and when he ran out of that stored food in the cabins, he starved. The guy who wrote the book painted him better than he was. He was a dirtbag, who destroyed the local cabins for no reason. Though it can't be proven that it was him, it only happened that year while he was out there. Put two and two together.
@@pauld7447Or you just want him to be a hero because some guy wrote an inspirational book to sell copies, that may have touched you. Theres a very big fact of reality that he didnt live out there for months on the 10lb bag of rice he brought with him and squirrels. He ransacked cabins and ate the stored provisions. Before he exhausted that supply and perished. I lived in that area for years and know alot of the life long residents. Sorry man. Thats how it went down. Some guy who never lived it or even met the kid, wrote an inspirational book.
I liked the part about the Columbia, the Colville (callville) tribe and WDFW has been reintroducing Chinook behind Grand Coulee Dam! We are on phase 2 of the program and that is a 20 year phase. Chief Joseph Dam is the last stop for all salmon on the Columbia river.
Listening to people talk about ANWR is hilarious. It would be like building a tiny subdivision in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Has absolutely zero impact on wildlife in the area. Drill sites make up a footprint of less than 10 acres, and there are a handful of them spread across an area larger than most of the states you live in. Not to mention oil companies in Alaska operate under environmental guidelines that you can’t even begin to comprehend.
Can y’all get into what’s a reindeer and what’s a caribou? Is it a sub-species thing? I always thought they were two names for Rangifer tarandus. Like cougar, puma, mountain lion all refer to Puma Concolor.
Only person home for several miles all the neighbors went off to see family. I left this playing on accident in my garage, Scared myself so bad, was outside in a robe and Santa hat with my AR10 looking for whoever had the balls to rob my house on Christmas. It was you... You bastard... I'll have to rewatch this lol.
If you think the cranes are loud there come try to train dogs with me in the spring. Every single Sandhill crane will be in a 60 miles stretch of the platte River for about a month.
As a salmon fishing local on the Columbia I can say walleyes eat far more pikeminnows than Salmon smolt. Therefore saving far more salmon in rhe process. They should get paid like we do.
If the goal is to minimize pikeminnow I always wonder why there is a size limit and restricted season. It doesn't begin until May 1 which is way after the smokt start coming out. Why unelected official? Why?
Having caught a lot of pike minnow here in Idaho, I can say that they absolutely taste better than you'd expect. Incredibly firm white flesh, if you steam them it dissolves a lot of the pin bones that normally turn most people off. Pressure cooking works even better, or frying.
I agree with a lot of what you guys are saying. But he government doesn’t make the right choices on closing hunting. DNR makes mistakes on putting wolves back in the UP. i on’t like the wolves destroying every animals herd. Sandhills cranes need to be hunted. Trapping needs to be promoted more. There are 6,000 invasive species in the USA. So we can deduce the governess has not done anything to reduce these
The part about the Columbia River caught my attention because it directly correlates to "it seemed like a good idea at the time" at the cost of one of the most productive rivers in the world. It wasn't planned in preparation for World War II, it was just a part of Roosevelt's failed job creation plan to get the USA out of the depression. I believe that the channel of a river should never be dammed.
Do you ever have ordinary hunters on your podcast ? Guys like me that have awesome hunting stories from a hunting career that spans over forty years . DIY hunt stories . Self taught school of hard knocks !!!
Oddly, the guest was "drill baby drill" and Steve isn't so convinced but everyone is polite. If we look at the long term goals, being a conservationist is a much better legacy.
I’m an environmental scientist and this is my take on the sheep conversation. You have to isolate variables in any experiment and allowing hunters in an area is the easiest variable we can control directly. I find it troubling that some separate non-reasonable predation(wolves, eagles, etc.) and human hunting as separate entities when observing how predation affects populations. Especially when observing a population of a species whose greatest adversary is the land and climate itself. I think the man from Alaska has a bit of FOMO, and it’s leading him towards his views.
Sounds like you don’t know a lot about sheep biology and weren’t listening to how sheep hunting is managed. From everything actual wildlife biologists (not self proclaimed youtube “environmental scientists”) in Alaska know, hunting older age class rams (that’s only males incase that part went over your head) doesn’t affect population growth or stability. They are a harvestable surplus
The difference in backcountry hunting in Alaska (I.E. U19) in the 90s compared today is sad. Bears and wolves are up, moose and sheep are down. You don’t see the size nor the number of mature bulls and rams. Also it’s amazing how many camps and people you see out there. Feels like mismanagement but it’s complicated
A lot of the anti outsider hunting sentiment comes from how shitty a lot of outside hunters are. There are so many non resident folks who “donate” their meat to the locals. So much just sits in hangers, it pisses off locals with that kind of disrespect to the animals, to the point where you can legit just have various flight services just ship you a quarter of moose because so many non res hunters just leave it there. While I’m happy t take free meat it’s very culturally disrespectful to just take the horns. This is why we are losing access to federal land.
I’ll bet the pike minnows were bread not caught. There’s a long history of people breading nuisance animals for the bounty. rats in the us even cobras in India
I got a buddy who worked for the state of Washington netting and killing northern Pike Meadow on the Columbia River, and they did studies on them. Cut them open to see what they're eating, and he said not a single one was eating the salmon. He did it for 3 years
4th gen Idahoan (central). Grew up hunting and fishing in our family, immediate family/cousins. these days there might be 2 of us with a Idaho hunting license in our pocket. Go back to where i shot my Frist deer there is a million dollar house sitting there with no one living in it.. Texas money buying up Old BLM and turning private... taking away future generation opportunity.. i wont be purchasing a Idaho hunting license next year.. its turned into California combat hunting, i do enjoy the show though. keep up the good work.
Wish there were laws preventing that type of stuff. The land belongs to the people of the land, and the people of the land belongs to their land. That is the case for everyone everywhere and throughout history whenever that is undermined everyone loses their freedom, including those on the tiop. Take care and God bless my fellow idahoan.
How hard is it for me being ohio res to kill a good buck ?.I think should be a draw or lottery system for nonresident. I used to have to draw a doe tag & we felt lucky . Now they give them away ....
If the sheep herd is down. Wouldn’t it be a good sacrifice to shut down hunting for 2 years ? Then coming back to hunt 2 years. It will be 2 years of growth and having babies.
I think you missed the point on it doesn’t really affect the flock to take the older rams. The full curl reg would be like putting something similar to you can only take a 180+ inch total whitetail or 350+ inch bull elk. The animals being targeted are at their peak when they get to the full curl range and it is highly unusual if they make it another 2 years naturally once they meet that point.
I would disagree about anti-hunting having a play or any other nefarious motives at play. IMO hunting makes a decent amount of money and a few people butthurt about hunting isn’t enough motivation to shutdown a season. I think it’s small agencies with LIMITED budgets making assessments with the information they have. The state and federal governments have been neglecting putting up the money for proper surveys. There is probably less than 100k people managing all of the federal and state lands in the US; they’re doing the best they can. Once I met a National Park Ranger in Va and he was responsible for Back Bay National Wildlife Refuge; one person to patrol 9,062.45-acre. The state also had their own park next back bay which was another 4k acres which prolly only has 1 person out in the field a patrolling. I am not even gonna bring up the amount of scientists actually doing research on these animal populations. IMO The simplest solution tends to be correct.
Don’t take bucks illegal , but have taken does for food , kept extra stocked trout etc etc ,when you grow up poor it what it is , food is food. Poaching is trophies.
No, it’s about right. The meateater show is great, but the podcast not so much. It’s painful rambling, taking way too long to get to the point. Overall, this podcast is perfect for the hardcore meateater fans who enjoy this alternate format.
Phil deserves some recognition for keeping to the upload schedule
They can schedule it
No, he is simply doing his job properly.
Phil’s a rockstar, man came into the office on his vacation to record the trivia show a few weeks back. Keep it up Phil
Keep er up Phil
As an Alaskan and a hunter, two of my favorite podcasts are meateater and tundra talk. Thanks for having Tyler on!
As a native PNW’er and a fishing guide we need you to come to bat with us regarding the salmon, steelhead and sturgeon decline on the Columbia River. Between sealions, cormorants and other predators and the argument regarding hatchery production you could make an entire series on this.
Tundra Talk is a fun, good podcast. Have been listening to it since the start.
Happy Holidays Meateater Family!
Alot of folks in town knew that kid was out there that year. He trashed and ransacked alot of cabins during that time, and when he ran out of that stored food in the cabins, he starved.
The guy who wrote the book painted him better than he was. He was a dirtbag, who destroyed the local cabins for no reason. Though it can't be proven that it was him, it only happened that year while he was out there. Put two and two together.
Or your painting him worse than he was. Alot of vandals before and since.
@@pauld7447Or you just want him to be a hero because some guy wrote an inspirational book to sell copies, that may have touched you.
Theres a very big fact of reality that he didnt live out there for months on the 10lb bag of rice he brought with him and squirrels. He ransacked cabins and ate the stored provisions. Before he exhausted that supply and perished.
I lived in that area for years and know alot of the life long residents.
Sorry man. Thats how it went down.
Some guy who never lived it or even met the kid, wrote an inspirational book.
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@@TheGreatWhiteNorth1 you have no idea who you are talking to or about.
weird that this is the biggest takeaway for you for this episode, but do you bud.
Meateater Crew - Billy Molls on the show!!!!!
I liked the part about the Columbia, the Colville (callville) tribe and WDFW has been reintroducing Chinook behind Grand Coulee Dam! We are on phase 2 of the program and that is a 20 year phase. Chief Joseph Dam is the last stop for all salmon on the Columbia river.
Excellent parenting Steve. Truly appreciate your example 👍
I could listen to this content all day!
Merry Christmas Steve. I grew up in Alaska and am a big fan of your work.
Listening to people talk about ANWR is hilarious. It would be like building a tiny subdivision in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Has absolutely zero impact on wildlife in the area. Drill sites make up a footprint of less than 10 acres, and there are a handful of them spread across an area larger than most of the states you live in. Not to mention oil companies in Alaska operate under environmental guidelines that you can’t even begin to comprehend.
Tyler and I are the same age, and as a midwestie, I acknowledge he has lived 10 lifetimes in the same amount of years.
Can y’all get into what’s a reindeer and what’s a caribou? Is it a sub-species thing? I always thought they were two names for Rangifer tarandus. Like cougar, puma, mountain lion all refer to Puma Concolor.
Reindeer are domesticated Caribou, nothing more to it
Is that Phil there at the end?😂😂😂
Try hunting around Kenai and Soldotna I’ve never been a more regulated hard to hunt area
Only person home for several miles all the neighbors went off to see family. I left this playing on accident in my garage, Scared myself so bad, was outside in a robe and Santa hat with my AR10 looking for whoever had the balls to rob my house on Christmas. It was you... You bastard... I'll have to rewatch this lol.
Lmao
That dude got out of the truck, and that bear knew he was no longer the alpha bear on the property.
Merry Christmas!
1:15:00 it’s weird to hear this guy talk about literally the same species getting shot because the bigger subspecies moved into town
If you put Alaska on top of the lower 48 it is half the size, there's a good scale or measurement.
Is Chronic Wasteing Disease still a problem ?
If you think the cranes are loud there come try to train dogs with me in the spring. Every single Sandhill crane will be in a 60 miles stretch of the platte River for about a month.
I don't know if I have ever seen Steve wear red
Biggest flock of sheep I saw in the Wrangells a few years ago was down pretty low in the dense timber. Seemed like low hanging fruit for wolves to me.
As a salmon fishing local on the Columbia I can say walleyes eat far more pikeminnows than Salmon smolt. Therefore saving far more salmon in rhe process. They should get paid like we do.
Steve look like the kid from home alone 🤣
Look in to the sankubetsu brown bear story, its a very sad story.
The bus was made 39-49 it was an international K series truck. I have a regular K-6 truck.
Love that into the wild book and movie so much for some reason. The book was way better.
If the goal is to minimize pikeminnow I always wonder why there is a size limit and restricted season. It doesn't begin until May 1 which is way after the smokt start coming out. Why unelected official? Why?
What nobody talks about with anwr is that the geology is wrong for oil. It’s really silly how much people worry about it.
Get Billy Molls !!
Having caught a lot of pike minnow here in Idaho, I can say that they absolutely taste better than you'd expect. Incredibly firm white flesh, if you steam them it dissolves a lot of the pin bones that normally turn most people off. Pressure cooking works even better, or frying.
I agree with a lot of what you guys are saying. But he government doesn’t make the right choices on closing hunting. DNR makes mistakes on putting wolves back in the UP. i on’t like the wolves destroying every animals herd. Sandhills cranes need to be hunted.
Trapping needs to be promoted more.
There are 6,000 invasive species in the USA. So we can deduce the governess has not done anything to reduce these
What are the odds someone raises pike fry and sells them back?
Have y'all addressed the activist movement to turn over 1 million acres of the North Maine Woods into A NATIONAL PARK?
Tundra talk!!!!
I'm feeling verklempt, please, talk amongst yourselves (about sheep).
The guy who turned in all those Northern Pike minnow, is breeding them on his property in giant ponds
You are only allowed to take Pike minnow by rod and reel on the Columbia. 🙂
The part about the Columbia River caught my attention because it directly correlates to "it seemed like a good idea at the time" at the cost of one of the most productive rivers in the world. It wasn't planned in preparation for World War II, it was just a part of Roosevelt's failed job creation plan to get the USA out of the depression. I believe that the channel of a river should never be dammed.
Do you ever have ordinary hunters on your podcast ? Guys like me that have awesome hunting stories from a hunting career that spans over forty years . DIY hunt stories . Self taught school of hard knocks !!!
Resident Hunters of Alaska R.H.A.K The future for Alaska hunters that live in Alaska
Oddly, the guest was "drill baby drill" and Steve isn't so convinced but everyone is polite. If we look at the long term goals, being a conservationist is a much better legacy.
i tend to agree with you, but it takes all kinds.
What the heck was that outro song
I’m an environmental scientist and this is my take on the sheep conversation. You have to isolate variables in any experiment and allowing hunters in an area is the easiest variable we can control directly. I find it troubling that some separate non-reasonable predation(wolves, eagles, etc.) and human hunting as separate entities when observing how predation affects populations. Especially when observing a population of a species whose greatest adversary is the land and climate itself. I think the man from Alaska has a bit of FOMO, and it’s leading him towards his views.
Sounds like you don’t know a lot about sheep biology and weren’t listening to how sheep hunting is managed. From everything actual wildlife biologists (not self proclaimed youtube “environmental scientists”) in Alaska know, hunting older age class rams (that’s only males incase that part went over your head) doesn’t affect population growth or stability. They are a harvestable surplus
I just hope the agency's don't hold onto the closures after the game recovers.
The difference in backcountry hunting in Alaska (I.E. U19) in the 90s compared today is sad. Bears and wolves are up, moose and sheep are down. You don’t see the size nor the number of mature bulls and rams. Also it’s amazing how many camps and people you see out there. Feels like mismanagement but it’s complicated
Phil the goat
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A lot of the anti outsider hunting sentiment comes from how shitty a lot of outside hunters are. There are so many non resident folks who “donate” their meat to the locals. So much just sits in hangers, it pisses off locals with that kind of disrespect to the animals, to the point where you can legit just have various flight services just ship you a quarter of moose because so many non res hunters just leave it there. While I’m happy t take free meat it’s very culturally disrespectful to just take the horns. This is why we are losing access to federal land.
When do they start talking about “the future of hunting in Alaska?”
Lamprey
You have to hold your mouth just right to catch Pike minnow.
Does anybody want to throw the first stone?
The guy catching the pike story is old he's been doing this for awhile. Wonder how this just came about
steve a leupold guy these days?
I’ll bet the pike minnows were bread not caught. There’s a long history of people breading nuisance animals for the bounty. rats in the us even cobras in India
Ya it’s different if you do dumb illegal stuff and continue getting caught
I got a buddy who worked for the state of Washington netting and killing northern Pike Meadow on the Columbia River, and they did studies on them. Cut them open to see what they're eating, and he said not a single one was eating the salmon. He did it for 3 years
Wisconsin is not impressive in most areas of management
4th gen Idahoan (central). Grew up hunting and fishing in our family, immediate family/cousins. these days there might be 2 of us with a Idaho hunting license in our pocket. Go back to where i shot my Frist deer there is a million dollar house sitting there with no one living in it.. Texas money buying up Old BLM and turning private... taking away future generation opportunity.. i wont be purchasing a Idaho hunting license next year.. its turned into California combat hunting, i do enjoy the show though. keep up the good work.
Wish there were laws preventing that type of stuff. The land belongs to the people of the land, and the people of the land belongs to their land. That is the case for everyone everywhere and throughout history whenever that is undermined everyone loses their freedom, including those on the tiop. Take care and God bless my fellow idahoan.
How hard is it for me being ohio res to kill a good buck ?.I think should be a draw or lottery system for nonresident. I used to have to draw a doe tag & we felt lucky . Now they give them away ....
They're shocking them
I was wondering that, but I am not sure if that is legal for a bunch of private citizens running around with shocking rigs
Have to be cought rod and reel.
If the sheep herd is down. Wouldn’t it be a good sacrifice to shut down hunting for 2 years ? Then coming back to hunt 2 years. It will be 2 years of growth and having babies.
I think you missed the point on it doesn’t really affect the flock to take the older rams. The full curl reg would be like putting something similar to you can only take a 180+ inch total whitetail or 350+ inch bull elk. The animals being targeted are at their peak when they get to the full curl range and it is highly unusual if they make it another 2 years naturally once they meet that point.
Yall need more native voices on the podcast
Noice
Yeah but keep voting dem! Gotta keep them feds in charge like bha says. 🤡
Get her off the show.
This podcast would be great if not for the hour worth of meaningless banter before they get into an actual topic
ughhhh......starting with ten minutes of inane conversation by people who love to hear their own voices. Worthless content
I would disagree about anti-hunting having a play or any other nefarious motives at play. IMO hunting makes a decent amount of money and a few people butthurt about hunting isn’t enough motivation to shutdown a season. I think it’s small agencies with LIMITED budgets making assessments with the information they have. The state and federal governments have been neglecting putting up the money for proper surveys. There is probably less than 100k people managing all of the federal and state lands in the US; they’re doing the best they can. Once I met a National Park Ranger in Va and he was responsible for Back Bay National Wildlife Refuge; one person to patrol 9,062.45-acre. The state also had their own park next back bay which was another 4k acres which prolly only has 1 person out in the field a patrolling. I am not even gonna bring up the amount of scientists actually doing research on these animal populations. IMO The simplest solution tends to be correct.
you're so full of crap its coming out your ears
Less than 100k people managing all Federal and State land? What so you mean by "managing"? Just actual people on the ground everyday?
First
Got any worms?🪱
Nobody cares. Are you 11?
sure aint nothing like a bunch of armchair quarterbacks sitting behind microphones telling everyone how it is in the great outdoors
Is this supposed to be like an insult or sum
Don’t take bucks illegal , but have taken does for food , kept extra stocked trout etc etc ,when you grow up poor it what it is , food is food. Poaching is trophies.
Poaching is poaching.
This video should have way more views!
No, it’s about right. The meateater show is great, but the podcast not so much. It’s painful rambling, taking way too long to get to the point. Overall, this podcast is perfect for the hardcore meateater fans who enjoy this alternate format.