@@jl-dc6dt dang I think journeyman here getting like 52 on the check but I’m sure cost of living out there is way more then here in Minnesota, we got a bomb ass benifits package though, pyramiding Benifits, which I guess is rare
Good to hear, best advice I can give any new apprentice is try to learn as much as you can, a journyman told me first year that a good apprentice is always trying to think ahead to what a journey man will need and having it before he asks for it, that was solid advice, also take advantage of open welding at the training center, if you weld you will make more money as an apprentice we pay for the training center and the rod for a reason, so it can be used lol, good luck brother, I can say for myself I definitely feel blessed to be a 539 pipefitter 💪🏽
@@stirlingheaton8205great advice man thanks, this video actually gave me the idea to apply there since I live very close to the training center, and just happened to do great in the video
What's the journeyman rate? It's awesome your local starts at 60% I applied at 636 in Detroit and it starts at something like 30% which isn't livable ($16ish/hr) so I moved to WI and started at $24ish/hr
I think journyman rate is at 54 an hour right now, honestly not sure we have another allocation meeting comming up in may so we will go up another 3 bucks and depending what we put that on we did most of it to the check last year and like 1 dollar to health and welfare and 50 cents to the training fund, so what we make now is more then the breakdown sheet I had as a first year, I’ll be a 3rd year in June and get a raise as well right now as a second year getting 3rd year pay as a welder I’m getting 40 an hour, so I’m excited for June for another big raise💪🏽 love my career
@@Aaron-kj8dv I took a big pay cut when I started as a first year, racked up a bunch of debt, been working a weekend job just to stay ahead for over a year hopefully next raise I’ll be able to even it out with just the pipefitting
Got a message back from my local union last month looking into jumping over after two years of residential hvac.. only 20 years old any opinions on what to do
Are you planning on staying in service or getting into construction? In my local those are separate, usually service needs a year of hvac school to get in, since you have experience you might be able to organize in at a higher apprentice year, that’s better money but you will be playing catch up, eather way your young enough to be good eather way, even if you take a little pay cut it will be more in the long run and with Benifits and pension, you will be set for life, my opinion is definitely stay in touch with the union hall, every local has a different contract and pay, some better then others but there is always going to be work and training on more things, stick with it💪🏽
@@stirlingheaton8205thanks allot for the advice I definitely want to have a spot in the union wether it be one of the two like you mentioned. Does the money from the bottom portion of the sheet (your “benefits” if you will) go into your regular paycheck/ take home or is that put into a fund for retirement.
So the money on the bottom is non taxable fringe Benifits, so like at a non union job they take money out of your check for dental, healthcare, 401k, with the Union that money is not taken out of your check, it’s in the working contract that the contractor pays that in full, so that’s how much they pay per hour for your Benifits, so they pay the things you used to and it’s non taxable so in theory your not getting taxed at as high of an income, every union has different Benifits though depending on the contract they have negotiated, my local probably has one of the best contracts in the nation, we have pyramiding Benifits so if I work over time or double time, my Benifits are also paying out at the same rate as pay, so double time is double time on my pension as well, and the pension is really the biggest win, what you get in your pension will take care of you until you die after retirement, and also your wife or kids after you die, stuff you don’t think about when your young, but man that’s a relief knowing you hit the lotto when you retire lol
We do a 5 year apprenticeship, I don’t know if every trade does 5 years, but for pipefitters, it’s a 5 year training program , every year you advance, it’s a big raise
lol my bad I just woke up thought I read how many years do you do, so I believe it’s 1000 hours of work and 1000 hours of class per year to advance, usually those are easy numbers to hit every year though, it’s the testing each year and the license tests which are really what you have to focus on
So I right now I’m a second year apprentice but I’m getting paid welders pay after passing a wedding test so for that I get paid 3rd year wages, that’s 40 an hour on the check, then all my pension, Benifits ect.. that is all paid by the contractor, so it doesn’t come out of my check it’s a non taxable fringe benifit, so unlike a non union job where you pay out of your check, we have it in our contract that it is fully covered by our contractor, hope that answers your question
@@stirlingheaton8205 that's amazing brother congrats, I saw in the comment you said that you're earning second year because you got your welding certs s, are you doing pipe fitting, or hvac? I'm currently looking at the sheet metal Union here in San Diego, I have 8 years of welding experience in Aerospace, torn between sheet metal and pipe fitting can't decide
@ChasingTheDream87 well I’m getting 4th year as a third year now because I passed my weld test and got hired on as a welder, still an apprentice so I fit and weld, sheet metal workers”tinners “ are also a good trade but they don’t weld much, I’m bias but pipefitter is definitely the way to go💪🏽
@stirlingheaton8205 I heard that joining a union limits what you can do in the future as a plumber. Is that true???? Can you start a business after becoming a union plumber ?
Figure out what trade you want to get into and look up online what local is by you, then eather check their websight for info, go down to their Union hall to sign up or call them and find out how to join
@@boxout90 there are 2 trades that are “hvac” pipefitters and sheet metal workers, pipefitters install all piping, boilers, pipe hangers and unit heaters ect… in addition to other piping, sheet metal workers do all the ductwork, also pipefitters are in two different areas, construction and residential, I’m in construction so more building pipeing systems, residential is more maintenance based
@stirlingheaton8205 oh, reason I asked is cause when I google hvac union only thing comes up is pipefitters out here in kc. Thanks for the response tho
I’m a pipefitter, some locals are combination plumber/pipefitter, but we have enough work up here that we are strait line pipefitters and plumbers have their own local
I’m local 539 Minneapolis pipefitters Union, there is no online application here, you have to go down to the Union hall to apply, in Minneapolis there’s only a few weeks to apply in January, I don’t know how other locals do it but your best bet is to go down to the Union hall in person
My bad I didn’t see which post you commented on, no no trouble here, our wage and benifit package are not secret, we want more people to see and know that there are good opportunities in the trades, you can make a good living with no collage debt
@@dh3940 not what I heard, they say they don’t want people comming in just for wages, but that’s dumb, nobody works for fun, I want to see more people like me get into the trades, and I’m all about money lol
Luckily for me I’ve only been laid off one time and it was only for a week, however I know there’s a few people in my class who have been laid off quite a bit a bit, there’s a few factors in this, for some reason people tend to like me, I’m always on time and trying to be the best I can be, but any construction trade there will be times when it slows down, we have over 1600 contractors in my area though so it’s always a good chance of there being work, also as an apprentice you are cheaper labor so usually apprentice’s are working more
The goal is to always try to learn the most and make yourself valuable, I can do more then some of my journeyman at a cheaper cost so I guess that’s been working
Union money my man . Greeting from LU230 .
Where is 230? Glad to see a brother comment on my page💪🏽
San Diego , CA
@@jl-dc6dt I bet you guys got a nice package out there💪🏽
@@stirlingheaton8205 It could be better . 57 and some change on the check
@@jl-dc6dt dang I think journeyman here getting like 52 on the check but I’m sure cost of living out there is way more then here in Minnesota, we got a bomb ass benifits package though, pyramiding Benifits, which I guess is rare
Nice I’m starting my apprenticeship Monday same union
Good to hear, best advice I can give any new apprentice is try to learn as much as you can, a journyman told me first year that a good apprentice is always trying to think ahead to what a journey man will need and having it before he asks for it, that was solid advice, also take advantage of open welding at the training center, if you weld you will make more money as an apprentice we pay for the training center and the rod for a reason, so it can be used lol, good luck brother, I can say for myself I definitely feel blessed to be a 539 pipefitter 💪🏽
Which local union do apply to in California?
@@stirlingheaton8205great advice man thanks, this video actually gave me the idea to apply there since I live very close to the training center, and just happened to do great in the video
@@stirlingheaton8205interview **
What's the journeyman rate? It's awesome your local starts at 60% I applied at 636 in Detroit and it starts at something like 30% which isn't livable ($16ish/hr) so I moved to WI and started at $24ish/hr
I think journyman rate is at 54 an hour right now, honestly not sure we have another allocation meeting comming up in may so we will go up another 3 bucks and depending what we put that on we did most of it to the check last year and like 1 dollar to health and welfare and 50 cents to the training fund, so what we make now is more then the breakdown sheet I had as a first year, I’ll be a 3rd year in June and get a raise as well right now as a second year getting 3rd year pay as a welder I’m getting 40 an hour, so I’m excited for June for another big raise💪🏽 love my career
Shit, $40/hour is more than livable for me. That'll be nice to live comfortably and then keep seeing your pay going up annually.
@@Aaron-kj8dv I took a big pay cut when I started as a first year, racked up a bunch of debt, been working a weekend job just to stay ahead for over a year hopefully next raise I’ll be able to even it out with just the pipefitting
Got a message back from my local union last month looking into jumping over after two years of residential hvac.. only 20 years old any opinions on what to do
Are you planning on staying in service or getting into construction? In my local those are separate, usually service needs a year of hvac school to get in, since you have experience you might be able to organize in at a higher apprentice year, that’s better money but you will be playing catch up, eather way your young enough to be good eather way, even if you take a little pay cut it will be more in the long run and with Benifits and pension, you will be set for life, my opinion is definitely stay in touch with the union hall, every local has a different contract and pay, some better then others but there is always going to be work and training on more things, stick with it💪🏽
@@stirlingheaton8205thanks allot for the advice I definitely want to have a spot in the union wether it be one of the two like you mentioned. Does the money from the bottom portion of the sheet (your “benefits” if you will) go into your regular paycheck/ take home or is that put into a fund for retirement.
So the money on the bottom is non taxable fringe Benifits, so like at a non union job they take money out of your check for dental, healthcare, 401k, with the Union that money is not taken out of your check, it’s in the working contract that the contractor pays that in full, so that’s how much they pay per hour for your Benifits, so they pay the things you used to and it’s non taxable so in theory your not getting taxed at as high of an income, every union has different Benifits though depending on the contract they have negotiated, my local probably has one of the best contracts in the nation, we have pyramiding Benifits so if I work over time or double time, my Benifits are also paying out at the same rate as pay, so double time is double time on my pension as well, and the pension is really the biggest win, what you get in your pension will take care of you until you die after retirement, and also your wife or kids after you die, stuff you don’t think about when your young, but man that’s a relief knowing you hit the lotto when you retire lol
@@stirlingheaton8205 yup that sounds like everything! thank you sir.
Been sober for over a month now and just applied to the plumbers and pipe fitter union but don’t know if they do urine sample or etc ? 🤦🏾♂️
Depends on the job but if you ever get hurt on a job a ua is mandatory
You get accepted?
@@keatonlaw7523 haven’t heard from them but I just did a drug test for a union sprinkler fitter apprentice
@@keatonlaw7523 haven’t heard back from them but I just did a drug test for a union sprinkler fitter apprenticeship
Yeah bro don't do drugs
As an apprentice how many hours do you do ?
We do a 5 year apprenticeship, I don’t know if every trade does 5 years, but for pipefitters, it’s a 5 year training program , every year you advance, it’s a big raise
lol my bad I just woke up thought I read how many years do you do, so I believe it’s 1000 hours of work and 1000 hours of class per year to advance, usually those are easy numbers to hit every year though, it’s the testing each year and the license tests which are really what you have to focus on
What's the journeyman rate?
We just had another allocation meeting, I think journyman will be up to 55 or 56 on the check plus Benifits
So are you getting paid the 50 dollars or is all the extra stuff deducted from that monthly
So I right now I’m a second year apprentice but I’m getting paid welders pay after passing a wedding test so for that I get paid 3rd year wages, that’s 40 an hour on the check, then all my pension, Benifits ect.. that is all paid by the contractor, so it doesn’t come out of my check it’s a non taxable fringe benifit, so unlike a non union job where you pay out of your check, we have it in our contract that it is fully covered by our contractor, hope that answers your question
It looks like a first year gets $29/hour. But with our benefits package included, its like a first year would get that $57 in total
What state or city is this in?
@@stirlingheaton8205 that's amazing brother congrats, I saw in the comment you said that you're earning second year because you got your welding certs s, are you doing pipe fitting, or hvac? I'm currently looking at the sheet metal Union here in San Diego, I have 8 years of welding experience in Aerospace, torn between sheet metal and pipe fitting can't decide
@ChasingTheDream87 well I’m getting 4th year as a third year now because I passed my weld test and got hired on as a welder, still an apprentice so I fit and weld, sheet metal workers”tinners “ are also a good trade but they don’t weld much, I’m bias but pipefitter is definitely the way to go💪🏽
How much overtime you get weekly ?
Depends on the job and time of year, getting 10’s right now but we doing some double time for some early morning picks
@stirlingheaton8205 I heard that joining a union limits what you can do in the future as a plumber. Is that true???? Can you start a business after becoming a union plumber ?
Bruh how do u even go in the union ?
Figure out what trade you want to get into and look up online what local is by you, then eather check their websight for info, go down to their Union hall to sign up or call them and find out how to join
So is it a pipefitter or hvac union apprenticeship
@@boxout90 there are 2 trades that are “hvac” pipefitters and sheet metal workers, pipefitters install all piping, boilers, pipe hangers and unit heaters ect… in addition to other piping, sheet metal workers do all the ductwork, also pipefitters are in two different areas, construction and residential, I’m in construction so more building pipeing systems, residential is more maintenance based
@stirlingheaton8205 oh, reason I asked is cause when I google hvac union only thing comes up is pipefitters out here in kc. Thanks for the response tho
Where do you live?
Minneapolis Minnesota
Are you a plumber or pipefitter ?
I’m a pipefitter, some locals are combination plumber/pipefitter, but we have enough work up here that we are strait line pipefitters and plumbers have their own local
@@stirlingheaton8205 what Union are you through I been trying to apply online
I’m local 539 Minneapolis pipefitters Union, there is no online application here, you have to go down to the Union hall to apply, in Minneapolis there’s only a few weeks to apply in January, I don’t know how other locals do it but your best bet is to go down to the Union hall in person
You can get in trouble with your union for this dude
Nope not if I’m not teaching the process I already asked💪🏽
My bad I didn’t see which post you commented on, no no trouble here, our wage and benifit package are not secret, we want more people to see and know that there are good opportunities in the trades, you can make a good living with no collage debt
@@stirlingheaton8205 oh damn I thought I heard one of my instructors say not to tell ppl about our wages and shit
@@dh3940 not what I heard, they say they don’t want people comming in just for wages, but that’s dumb, nobody works for fun, I want to see more people like me get into the trades, and I’m all about money lol
Are you ever laid off?
Luckily for me I’ve only been laid off one time and it was only for a week, however I know there’s a few people in my class who have been laid off quite a bit a bit, there’s a few factors in this, for some reason people tend to like me, I’m always on time and trying to be the best I can be, but any construction trade there will be times when it slows down, we have over 1600 contractors in my area though so it’s always a good chance of there being work, also as an apprentice you are cheaper labor so usually apprentice’s are working more
@@stirlingheaton8205 thats great that you havent been laid off
The goal is to always try to learn the most and make yourself valuable, I can do more then some of my journeyman at a cheaper cost so I guess that’s been working