Thank you Jason. I agree 100% with you. I was getting ready to do a long fast but decided against it. I may pulse my fast as in a day here and a day there kind of fast but not 21+ long fast. Thank you my friend. You rock.
Thank you. This is the info I’ve been searching for. Been serious ketovore a year and have lost tons of fat n muscle, can’t get glucose even in the 80 consistently and of course can’t get into ketosis. Keep hearing I need to fast…I do intermittent fasting…but afraid of losing more weight. I need to eat more and more often. Hope it works!
@@jasonwatson6104 can you share just for your Patreon supporters or subscribers. Create an anonymous document if needed and share. Don’t wait for it to work. It’s already valuable. Pen names you know 😉
I love this information. I have been watching your journey and have wanted to shout "80% fat and 20% protein" but didn't like to cast doubt on what you were already doing with fasting. I have been carnivore for five years, I do it for over all health but gratefully not for the reasons that you have to. I had not heard of GKI until I saw you, my GKI is frequently under 3.0, it rarely goes much higher. I eat! I mean I really eat. I do resistance training and maintain my weight easily. I genuinely think that you are on to something, why fast if you can create a fasted state while eating??
I couldn't agree more! And if you have cancer, just take the medications to drop glucose levels slightly! If you must restrict calories, then just do it slightly! It's temporary so that you can beat the cancer! There is a time and place for fasting, perhaps, but it's not to get your numbers right!
You’re leading the way brother, keep working hard your message is getting out! Dr Sayfried’s press pulse protocol can help so many people, I hope I never have to implement it but I’ll be totally prepared if I do.
One caveat with BMR is that it is based in part on muscle mass so if you lose too much, your BMR will decrease and it becomes a vicious cycle. To avoid losing too much weight, could it possibly be safer to try BMR for your ideal muscle mass under the circumstances as opposed to current?
It's time for me to give more feedback. I have always resorted to fasting for cleansing for years (way before intermittent fasting). Recently, I decided to dig in because of getting ready for a PSMA scan which is the most accurate means to see where prostate cancer is. However, realistically with my wife and kid still eating "normally" so to speak, it's a bit of a challenge! I then had to step back and admit I have cravings of which I thought were for other people and not me! Sure! Upon self-reflection I realized the habit of eating all those sweets etc. - my favorite - dark chocolate coffee beans. I literally would go through bags of this stuff. End result? Not a quality dark Chocolate for flavonoids but standard sugar possible high metal content garbage. I was honestly taken aback after my biopsy with a Gleason score of 9. I was thinking maybe a 6-7 at best. Gleason 9-10 are the worst. There is a process that I went through before finally having the biopsy (of which Dr. Seyfried does not recommend due to possible spread with the removal of the tissue) which eventually led to - This is not good! I'm not denial, I think. I had a genetic test fo which I expected an obvious result (my father died of colon cancer @ 53, my mother got breast cancer, my grandfather got cancer of the tongue? Actually, I think the Irish whiskey kept him alive longer than expected) Result? Clean! Zero for cancer! Yet - I'm diagnosed with advanced cancer? Is this proof that it's NOT GENETIC? Can't say for sure. Also had an Exodx test of which showed I was on the fence as in "threshold" and not way up the graph for definite cancer. What's the deal? Back to the press/pulse etc. I have a good supplier for DON. However, its expensive but not as expensive as what I've seen out there. My supplier is not a reseller and as a research facility makes its compounds from scratch. I have ordered and received other compounds from them, and they check out. I do intend on ordering a batch soon. I prepared for the PSMA test which shows prostate cancer like a xmas tree on screen. Completely changed the playing field in the prostate world! I fasted for 15 days and was not taking electrolytes as I should have. Essentially just water. I was honestly shooting for 30 days. My wife's cooking drove me nuts. During the fast I continued to take my many supplements but keyed in with the difference of - Fenbendazole (approx. a conservative 333mgs, metformin 1,000mgs, and a typical prostate mix (pill form) of saw palmetto etc. I also take sulforaphane and other supps. I maintained a semi fasting mode with a change to some fat until D-day. My readings were confusing. I admit that I was not diligent enough with the GKI. Essentially, one or two times daily. At first, I was like WTF?? Because I was not producing ketones. As a matter of fact, my glucose was just normal. As time went (days) on I eventually went from a 0.2, .03, etc., to a 1.0 and then a 2.0 and a 3.0. I was rather confused at these readings. While good, and my glucose went to the 70's - it was NOT sustainable. So, Jason's argument that fasting is not the primary means has imo credibility. I remember him saying "fat, fat, fat!" This goes completely against my former lifestyle. Furthermore, I was thinking, "how can I obtain ketones eating so much fat?" It didn't make sense. I'm having go back to sort of the old seal training mentality and truly hit it. Eating fat is fun! I fell off the bandwagon after the results of my PSMA scan (they made us wait a whole for the results which is usually back within 48hrs) and raided the freezer and pigged out on a few Haggen Daz bars. Shame on me! Revenge on my wife for her good cooking! My results showed no metastasis! It has remained localized and there appears to be a slight diminishment of one of the lesions (two bad lesions). The question is: is it possible that the somewhat lame Dr. Seyfried protocol had anything to do with the results? I say "lame" as in it did not incorporate DON or HBOT. However, carbs were avoided (after the intense fast) and I maintained some fat, exercise, and the supplements etc. As Jason stated - put it all together and kill it. I have yet to understand the combined numbers on the MOJO. However, its fairly straight forward - little to no carbs, no sugar - get to the sweet spot (not the Haggen Daz) and hit it with the tools suggested. All that said. I still am having to have ADT - hormone therapy - chemical castration which I began today (I was actually and still may just stick with press/pulse) as everyone still realizes there could be "microscopic cancer lurking that even the best imaging will not pick up until it grows. As my type of cancer severe they (oncologist and the rest of stand of care) plan on attacking (am I @ war?) it with not only 2yrs of eliminating my testosterone but also both inner and external radiation. Yes, the side effects of the ADT are not fun. Men without this testosterone wither away. So, DIET is crucial with exercise and the bones breakdown etc. Radiation? I won't go there. Chemo? It's bizarre. Why can't I get into ketosis? Furthermore, the hormonal thing with me is a major negative I think for glucose as well. Yet, there is evidence (somewhat) of a mechanism for the PSMA results. And finally, for prostate cancer your PSA reading is a key indicator of the probability of cancer. My wife and I took Dr. Hymans Beta Co., test (functionhealth.com) which is very thorough. My chronological age showed 12 yrs. younger than my biological age. Sound good except for my PSA which was a 13+. I then went to a local facility for another test > 15+. I then fasted for 7 days, and it went to 17+. Some guys are freaking out with psa scores of 2-4. After that I began the whole process (MRIT3 ETC) to finally the PSMA TEST. Well, today @ the Fred Hutchinson UW Seattle cancer institute (nice bldg) they did the blood work in conjunction with the dreaded needle of "there goes your good buddy" and I received the results of which I was in no rush to read. For some reason my RBC is low - big time. Confusion. What's up? However, the yang to the yin was my PSA which was not read since months agon with the last reading of 17+. It was around 14. While still high (some guys have readings as high as 400 or even 3000) how did it go down?? The journey continues.
I'm not sure this helps, but please look into circulating cancer stem cell test. One of these may draw some clarity. Thank you for sharing. Sorry it took me so long to reply. Also, feel free to reach out if you need help with the full press pulse protocol!
Smart approach bro. Fasting isn't sustainable in the long run. I think Dom D'Agostino talks about how he stopped fasting because he noticed his blood glucose would spike after eating.
Hi Jason, wondered if your cancer can be tracked with a blood protein marker, essentially something that produces a "number" and nothing more. Your probably getting CT scans every 90 days or so. Would be curious to hear your blood marker numbers more often if that is possible. You may have covered this previously, i have not watched all your prior videos. Weight, tumor protein marker levels - maybe a couple other things would be good to share if you can maybe once a month. I've been very curious to find anyone trying to apply Seyfried's ideas in a public setting - you are the only one I have seen.
@@jasonwatson6104 I will check to see if you have a website - one of my neighbors is also fighting esophageal cancer. Could be interesting to compare notes with him. Very smart guy-
Just my humble opinion: I wouldn't fast at all. People that have cancer are already losing muscle mass, eat, eat a lot, more meals a day, forget about numbers, eat all macros and exercise if you can.
Im going to have to disagree. Now I have to say up front I don't have cancer...with respect to fasting, it's a protocol that goes beyond food Abstinence. The purpose is to allow the body to heal. Cancer as Thomas told you, feeds on glucose and glutamine. There is only one way to reduce glucose levels. So this means when one refeeds, they have to do so carefully. As you state, when the body has cancer tumors, what one eats and how often becomes critically important. A 21 day fast will do great things for the healing process, but a horrible refeed will diminish those benefits. With respect to loss of muscle mass, this is illusion. Muscle tissue also stores fat which is decreased once fat starts getiing metabolized. At no time will the body metabolize muscle as long as there is excess glucose around, and quite frankly, the average person always has about 30-60d worth. It would be almost impossible to get to a stage where the body starts feeding on muscle. People really underestimate the amount of stored fat they have. There is no way to accurately test it, but the symptoms are very clear if one can distinguish them. Again as Thomas told us, this is a metabolic disease and there is only one cure. My last statement will be more controversial than yours😂. It has never been proven humans are supposed to eat every day. In fact, there is far more evidence that suggests eating every 2-3 days is far more beneficial. This maximizes healing, and maintains strong immune system. Keeping in mind, there is no such thing as an "immune system" but more accurately, its the 12 bodily systems that when in optimal condition, protects and keeps the body free of infection and disease..apologies for the lengthy reply.
As I mentioned in the video. There are definitely many benefits. However, most people can't outfast the cancer. Once the body mass is gone, it's gone for good, and I can't get it back.Seyfreid is not using this method long term in humans or inplamemting protocols for humans. Most people now deep into proper press pulse protocols regret fasting at the beginning. If you don't understand what D Days are and how intense these protocols are, and how long they are, they are hard to understand. However, I have to relay the regrets I am now hearing, and I agree with them. Get your diet right, save your body mass for full press pulse protocol. I could see a short fast in preparation of a D Day making sense if you can not lose weight. However, these protocols are 21 days long with allmost now recovery time, so it's very unlikely. So get your diet right. It seems to be the consensus now, and forget fasting. This is a great debate, and I hope I have laid out a strong enough case to get the lines of communication flowing. There is no one implementing D Day protocols outher than myself that I know of on youtube. However, there are thousands doing it right now! Hopefully, more people will start speaking out and share their experiences so we can all learn and grow.
@@jasonwatson6104 I guess I'm confused because after watching dozens of vids by him, It always seemed to me he was always placed heavy importance and emphasis on correcting the diet. The fact that he calls it a metabolic disease rather than a genetic one was always a signal to me that the diet had to be streamlined....but that was not enough in all cases, and this why the Fasting was necessary to get the gki low enough to optimize healing. This level of healing couldn't be achieved by eating alone. As you already know, cancer tumors will take years/decades before being detected. Press/pulse is necessary for worse case, otherwise a keto diet with minimal fasting days would suffice. As I understand it, cancerous cells are always present in the body, so the idea isn't to out fast them, it's to prevent them from fusing together then settling in an organ, gland or the blood which will disrupt function...i think you should reach out to the folks who run the Hippocrates Research Center and interview them. They use the press/pulse protocol to actually treat patients, and go into those details. As Thomas stated, he is only a researcher, not a practitioner. He is now referring to folks who reach out to him, to them. There is an interview with the staff and a gentleman they nursed back to DNE status after he was given months to live...
@@jasonwatson6104 It's like you said, the diet has to be right or it will just be a yo-yo cycle. Good luck to all fighting the fight though... I truly wish success is had by all💯
Fasting can help.. get your body fat adapted more quickly. Get your ketones boosted over a few days, then go to a ketogenic diet. Your body will keep a higher ketone level, at least more quickly. Fasting for approx three days can also boost your immune system. Apparently certain cells retreat to your bone marrow and your immune systems stem cells will create fresh healthy white blood cells when you get back to eating (protein). Fasting can also help reduce glutamate, especially if combined with exercise. Many of us can't get DON or HBOT. I would suggest taking a look at the work by Dr. Matthew Phillips, he used fasting, like five days every month, and has seen some great success. Also, I thought your body produced certain hormones while fasting that actually preserved muscle
@jasonwatson6104 I follow a fasting lifestyle but I didn't start it until I cleaned up my diet and lowered the carbs. After I did that, fasting was easier and more effective. My goal wasn't to go keto or have a 2 GKI because I don't have cancer but I'm able to get into light to moderate ketosis (3.4 GKI) without doing any long fasts. I think the diet must be working.
That's my point. At 3 to 4 gki you can simply take a few meds to get you bellow 2.0. Gki. So why fast ever when you have cancer. Get into 2.0 range and hold it long term and save your body mass because you may need it!
Jason… start with a BRIEF update on your overall situation and how you’re doing. You’re selling your personal story and progress too. You’re establishing credibility.
@@jasonwatson6104 I apologize for “telling you what to do”. That was rude. I’m super interested and excited about your story, contribution and advocacy in this cause.
No problem! It was so frustrating! Lol, I had 3 videos ready to rock! One was ruined so frustrated. The fasting video the mic also cut out, but it was only small, so I ran it anyway.
Actually what you’re advocating makes a lot of sense I think. If you’re pigging out after a fast, you’re fully re-energizing cancer and making cancer strong and “healthy”. No. You must keep the press up, right? Best to do exactly what you’re saying.
Forgive me, Jason but I don't see how fasting can help with cancer, especially if one is already doing a ketogenic diet. The most important thing one can do is to minimize glucose spiking after meals, which keto does super well. From watching your own results with your fasting experiments, your blood glucose was not that much lower than normal most times that you checked it. Sure, your ketones were way up there, giving you a great GKI result, but ketones don't do anything against cancer cells. So long as you have stable glucose, there's no point in fasting to kill cancer. Unless you can get your glucose much lower using metformin or some other intervention, what exactly are you achieving? Keto is already a fasting-mimmicking diet. As you said in this video, one can do much more harm fasting by losing too much muscle mass - and then what? Prof. Seyfried is very passionate about his press-pulse theory, but in my view this is not going to work unless you can get your glucose very low, and also your glutamate which is not addressed by fasting alone. Perhaps there are some folks who do find some benefit from fasting, but I would say that the majority of people would not. To me, having had prostate cancer and radiation therapy, the keto/carnivore diet allowed me to sail through the treatment with no side effects and I ended up with a great result, so far! So I can recommend the keto diet strategy if only for the reduction in side effects from cancer therapies.
@@midnightalley4586 Hmmm, I also mentioned glutamate - what else is there? I've followed Prof. Seyfried for quite some time and he only talks about glucose and glutamate. I think I am missing your point...?
I was just agreeing with both. To be honest it's the atophoghy and many more bennifits that can temporarily help with cancer. However you have to eat! People need to read seyfried more but the bennifits of fasting when yo yo yo diet are also greatly reduced!
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Good stuff buddy!!! Glad to see what your doing on the keto for cancer forum!!!
Thank you!
@@jasonwatson6104thank you for all of your information. It is really valuable,specially when people are fighting for their lives.
Thank you Jason. I needed to hear this.
You are wepcome
Thank you Jason. I agree 100% with you. I was getting ready to do a long fast but decided against it. I may pulse my fast as in a day here and a day there kind of fast but not 21+ long fast. Thank you my friend. You rock.
Thank you as well for your support!
Great advice. Makes perfect sense.
Thank you.
I really appreciate your input!
I apreciate your support!
Thank you. This is the info I’ve been searching for. Been serious ketovore a year and have lost tons of fat n muscle, can’t get glucose even in the 80 consistently and of course can’t get into ketosis. Keep hearing I need to fast…I do intermittent fasting…but afraid of losing more weight. I need to eat more and more often. Hope it works!
You also need the medication. This will get you into high 60s with eating if you are currently around 80.
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I was taking 500mg Berberine once a day. Guess I need to up that also.
Ya, it won't hurt. I'm not sure how much extra benefits there will be, but it definitely won't hurt.
Thanks
Thank you sooooo much! This is so helpful!
Thank you!
Please publish your protocol as it is now and then update it at periodic intervals. God bless you.
I can't do this publically right now. I promise that when this works, I will share one way or another.
@@jasonwatson6104 can you share just for your Patreon supporters or subscribers. Create an anonymous document if needed and share. Don’t wait for it to work. It’s already valuable. Pen names you know 😉
I love this information. I have been watching your journey and have wanted to shout "80% fat and 20% protein" but didn't like to cast doubt on what you were already doing with fasting. I have been carnivore for five years, I do it for over all health but gratefully not for the reasons that you have to. I had not heard of GKI until I saw you, my GKI is frequently under 3.0, it rarely goes much higher. I eat! I mean I really eat. I do resistance training and maintain my weight easily. I genuinely think that you are on to something, why fast if you can create a fasted state while eating??
I couldn't agree more! And if you have cancer, just take the medications to drop glucose levels slightly! If you must restrict calories, then just do it slightly! It's temporary so that you can beat the cancer! There is a time and place for fasting, perhaps, but it's not to get your numbers right!
How many protein do you uptake per 1 kg body weight and how many fats?
great video ...best wishes brother
Thank you!
You’re leading the way brother, keep working hard your message is getting out! Dr Sayfried’s press pulse protocol can help so many people, I hope I never have to implement it but I’ll be totally prepared if I do.
I hope you don't ither. Thank you for your support!
One caveat with BMR is that it is based in part on muscle mass so if you lose too much, your BMR will decrease and it becomes a vicious cycle.
To avoid losing too much weight, could it possibly be safer to try BMR for your ideal muscle mass under the circumstances as opposed to current?
Yes. If you have the knowledge to do so. Most people just need a starting point and see and adapt.
It's time for me to give more feedback. I have always resorted to fasting for cleansing for years (way before intermittent fasting). Recently, I decided to dig in because of getting ready for a PSMA scan which is the most accurate means to see where prostate cancer is. However, realistically with my wife and kid still eating "normally" so to speak, it's a bit of a challenge! I then had to step back and admit I have cravings of which I thought were for other people and not me! Sure! Upon self-reflection I realized the habit of eating all those sweets etc. - my favorite - dark chocolate coffee beans. I literally would go through bags of this stuff. End result? Not a quality dark Chocolate for flavonoids but standard sugar possible high metal content garbage.
I was honestly taken aback after my biopsy with a Gleason score of 9. I was thinking maybe a 6-7 at best. Gleason 9-10 are the worst. There is a process that I went through before finally having the biopsy (of which Dr. Seyfried does not recommend due to possible spread with the removal of the tissue) which eventually led to - This is not good! I'm not denial, I think. I had a genetic test fo which I expected an obvious result (my father died of colon cancer @ 53, my mother got breast cancer, my grandfather got cancer of the tongue? Actually, I think the Irish whiskey kept him alive longer than expected) Result? Clean! Zero for cancer! Yet - I'm diagnosed with advanced cancer? Is this proof that it's NOT GENETIC? Can't say for sure. Also had an Exodx test of which showed I was on the fence as in "threshold" and not way up the graph for definite cancer. What's the deal?
Back to the press/pulse etc. I have a good supplier for DON. However, its expensive but not as expensive as what I've seen out there. My supplier is not a reseller and as a research facility makes its compounds from scratch. I have ordered and received other compounds from them, and they check out. I do intend on ordering a batch soon. I prepared for the PSMA test which shows prostate cancer like a xmas tree on screen. Completely changed the playing field in the prostate world! I fasted for 15 days and was not taking electrolytes as I should have. Essentially just water. I was honestly shooting for 30 days. My wife's cooking drove me nuts. During the fast I continued to take my many supplements but keyed in with the difference of - Fenbendazole (approx. a conservative 333mgs, metformin 1,000mgs, and a typical prostate mix (pill form) of saw palmetto etc. I also take sulforaphane and other supps. I maintained a semi fasting mode with a change to some fat until D-day.
My readings were confusing. I admit that I was not diligent enough with the GKI. Essentially, one or two times daily. At first, I was like WTF?? Because I was not producing ketones. As a matter of fact, my glucose was just normal. As time went (days) on I eventually went from a 0.2, .03, etc., to a 1.0 and then a 2.0 and a 3.0. I was rather confused at these readings. While good, and my glucose went to the 70's - it was NOT sustainable. So, Jason's argument that fasting is not the primary means has imo credibility. I remember him saying "fat, fat, fat!" This goes completely against my former lifestyle. Furthermore, I was thinking, "how can I obtain ketones eating so much fat?" It didn't make sense. I'm having go back to sort of the old seal training mentality and truly hit it. Eating fat is fun! I fell off the bandwagon after the results of my PSMA scan (they made us wait a whole for the results which is usually back within 48hrs) and raided the freezer and pigged out on a few Haggen Daz bars. Shame on me! Revenge on my wife for her good cooking!
My results showed no metastasis! It has remained localized and there appears to be a slight diminishment of one of the lesions (two bad lesions). The question is: is it possible that the somewhat lame Dr. Seyfried protocol had anything to do with the results? I say "lame" as in it did not incorporate DON or HBOT. However, carbs were avoided (after the intense fast) and I maintained some fat, exercise, and the supplements etc. As Jason stated - put it all together and kill it. I have yet to understand the combined numbers on the MOJO. However, its fairly straight forward - little to no carbs, no sugar - get to the sweet spot (not the Haggen Daz) and hit it with the tools suggested. All that said. I still am having to have ADT - hormone therapy - chemical castration which I began today (I was actually and still may just stick with press/pulse) as everyone still realizes there could be "microscopic cancer lurking that even the best imaging will not pick up until it grows. As my type of cancer severe they (oncologist and the rest of stand of care) plan on attacking (am I @ war?) it with not only 2yrs of eliminating my testosterone but also both inner and external radiation.
Yes, the side effects of the ADT are not fun. Men without this testosterone wither away. So, DIET is crucial with exercise and the bones breakdown etc. Radiation? I won't go there. Chemo? It's bizarre. Why can't I get into ketosis? Furthermore, the hormonal thing with me is a major negative I think for glucose as well. Yet, there is evidence (somewhat) of a mechanism for the PSMA results. And finally, for prostate cancer your PSA reading is a key indicator of the probability of cancer. My wife and I took Dr. Hymans Beta Co., test (functionhealth.com) which is very thorough. My chronological age showed 12 yrs. younger than my biological age. Sound good except for my PSA which was a 13+. I then went to a local facility for another test > 15+. I then fasted for 7 days, and it went to 17+. Some guys are freaking out with psa scores of 2-4. After that I began the whole process (MRIT3 ETC) to finally the PSMA TEST. Well, today @ the Fred Hutchinson UW Seattle cancer institute (nice bldg) they did the blood work in conjunction with the dreaded needle of "there goes your good buddy" and I received the results of which I was in no rush to read.
For some reason my RBC is low - big time. Confusion. What's up? However, the yang to the yin was my PSA which was not read since months agon with the last reading of 17+. It was around 14. While still high (some guys have readings as high as 400 or even 3000) how did it go down?? The journey continues.
Great job being in charge of your body, don’t be frustrated with your GKI or other tests cuz your body is also adjusting while you fast.
I'm not sure this helps, but please look into circulating cancer stem cell test. One of these may draw some clarity. Thank you for sharing. Sorry it took me so long to reply. Also, feel free to reach out if you need help with the full press pulse protocol!
Great point
Thank you.
Smart approach bro. Fasting isn't sustainable in the long run. I think Dom D'Agostino talks about how he stopped fasting because he noticed his blood glucose would spike after eating.
Exactly!
Hi Jason, wondered if your cancer can be tracked with a blood protein marker, essentially something that produces a "number" and nothing more. Your probably getting CT scans every 90 days or so. Would be curious to hear your blood marker numbers more often if that is possible. You may have covered this previously, i have not watched all your prior videos.
Weight, tumor protein marker levels - maybe a couple other things would be good to share if you can maybe once a month. I've been very curious to find anyone trying to apply Seyfried's ideas in a public setting - you are the only one I have seen.
No my cancer has no markers to track progression. There is a marker for treatment options tho.
@@jasonwatson6104 I will check to see if you have a website - one of my neighbors is also fighting esophageal cancer. Could be interesting to compare notes with him. Very smart guy-
Sounds good. Use my email or dm me on fb or insta
Just my humble opinion: I wouldn't fast at all. People that have cancer are already losing muscle mass, eat, eat a lot, more meals a day, forget about numbers, eat all macros and exercise if you can.
I agree
Im going to have to disagree. Now I have to say up front I don't have cancer...with respect to fasting, it's a protocol that goes beyond food Abstinence. The purpose is to allow the body to heal. Cancer as Thomas told you, feeds on glucose and glutamine. There is only one way to reduce glucose levels. So this means when one refeeds, they have to do so carefully. As you state, when the body has cancer tumors, what one eats and how often becomes critically important. A 21 day fast will do great things for the healing process, but a horrible refeed will diminish those benefits. With respect to loss of muscle mass, this is illusion. Muscle tissue also stores fat which is decreased once fat starts getiing metabolized. At no time will the body metabolize muscle as long as there is excess glucose around, and quite frankly, the average person always has about 30-60d worth. It would be almost impossible to get to a stage where the body starts feeding on muscle. People really underestimate the amount of stored fat they have. There is no way to accurately test it, but the symptoms are very clear if one can distinguish them. Again as Thomas told us, this is a metabolic disease and there is only one cure. My last statement will be more controversial than yours😂. It has never been proven humans are supposed to eat every day. In fact, there is far more evidence that suggests eating every 2-3 days is far more beneficial. This maximizes healing, and maintains strong immune system. Keeping in mind, there is no such thing as an "immune system" but more accurately, its the 12 bodily systems that when in optimal condition, protects and keeps the body free of infection and disease..apologies for the lengthy reply.
As I mentioned in the video. There are definitely many benefits. However, most people can't outfast the cancer. Once the body mass is gone, it's gone for good, and I can't get it back.Seyfreid is not using this method long term in humans or inplamemting protocols for humans. Most people now deep into proper press pulse protocols regret fasting at the beginning. If you don't understand what D Days are and how intense these protocols are, and how long they are, they are hard to understand. However, I have to relay the regrets I am now hearing, and I agree with them. Get your diet right, save your body mass for full press pulse protocol. I could see a short fast in preparation of a D Day making sense if you can not lose weight. However, these protocols are 21 days long with allmost now recovery time, so it's very unlikely. So get your diet right. It seems to be the consensus now, and forget fasting. This is a great debate, and I hope I have laid out a strong enough case to get the lines of communication flowing. There is no one implementing D Day protocols outher than myself that I know of on youtube. However, there are thousands doing it right now! Hopefully, more people will start speaking out and share their experiences so we can all learn and grow.
@@jasonwatson6104 I guess I'm confused because after watching dozens of vids by him, It always seemed to me he was always placed heavy importance and emphasis on correcting the diet. The fact that he calls it a metabolic disease rather than a genetic one was always a signal to me that the diet had to be streamlined....but that was not enough in all cases, and this why the Fasting was necessary to get the gki low enough to optimize healing. This level of healing couldn't be achieved by eating alone. As you already know, cancer tumors will take years/decades before being detected. Press/pulse is necessary for worse case, otherwise a keto diet with minimal fasting days would suffice. As I understand it, cancerous cells are always present in the body, so the idea isn't to out fast them, it's to prevent them from fusing together then settling in an organ, gland or the blood which will disrupt function...i think you should reach out to the folks who run the Hippocrates Research Center and interview them. They use the press/pulse protocol to actually treat patients, and go into those details. As Thomas stated, he is only a researcher, not a practitioner. He is now referring to folks who reach out to him, to them. There is an interview with the staff and a gentleman they nursed back to DNE status after he was given months to live...
I agree! Alot of people i have spoke with that regret fasting are coming from treatments at the hypocrites!
@@jasonwatson6104 It's like you said, the diet has to be right or it will just be a yo-yo cycle. Good luck to all fighting the fight though... I truly wish success is had by all💯
Fasting can help.. get your body fat adapted more quickly. Get your ketones boosted over a few days, then go to a ketogenic diet. Your body will keep a higher ketone level, at least more quickly.
Fasting for approx three days can also boost your immune system. Apparently certain cells retreat to your bone marrow and your immune systems stem cells will create fresh healthy white blood cells when you get back to eating (protein).
Fasting can also help reduce glutamate, especially if combined with exercise. Many of us can't get DON or HBOT.
I would suggest taking a look at the work by Dr. Matthew Phillips, he used fasting, like five days every month, and has seen some great success.
Also, I thought your body produced certain hormones while fasting that actually preserved muscle
I can live with 3 days! So many people are doing this frequently because they can't maintain 2.0 gki though. That's the point.
@jasonwatson6104 I follow a fasting lifestyle but I didn't start it until I cleaned up my diet and lowered the carbs. After I did that, fasting was easier and more effective. My goal wasn't to go keto or have a 2 GKI because I don't have cancer but I'm able to get into light to moderate ketosis (3.4 GKI) without doing any long fasts. I think the diet must be working.
That's my point. At 3 to 4 gki you can simply take a few meds to get you bellow 2.0. Gki. So why fast ever when you have cancer. Get into 2.0 range and hold it long term and save your body mass because you may need it!
Jason… start with a BRIEF update on your overall situation and how you’re doing. You’re selling your personal story and progress too. You’re establishing credibility.
I made i full video updating everything. My mike kept cutting out, and I had to delete the whole thing. I will remake it shortly.
@@jasonwatson6104 I apologize for “telling you what to do”. That was rude. I’m super interested and excited about your story, contribution and advocacy in this cause.
No problem! It was so frustrating! Lol, I had 3 videos ready to rock! One was ruined so frustrated. The fasting video the mic also cut out, but it was only small, so I ran it anyway.
Actually what you’re advocating makes a lot of sense I think. If you’re pigging out after a fast, you’re fully re-energizing cancer and making cancer strong and “healthy”. No. You must keep the press up, right? Best to do exactly what you’re saying.
Thank you!
Hi Jason
Just seen you on Metcancer. What kind of cancer are you fighting?
Adnocarcinoma
Forgive me, Jason but I don't see how fasting can help with cancer, especially if one is already doing a ketogenic diet. The most important thing one can do is to minimize glucose spiking after meals, which keto does super well.
From watching your own results with your fasting experiments, your blood glucose was not that much lower than normal most times that you checked it. Sure, your ketones were way up there, giving you a great GKI result, but ketones don't do anything against cancer cells. So long as you have stable glucose, there's no point in fasting to kill cancer. Unless you can get your glucose much lower using metformin or some other intervention, what exactly are you achieving? Keto is already a fasting-mimmicking diet.
As you said in this video, one can do much more harm fasting by losing too much muscle mass - and then what? Prof. Seyfried is very passionate about his press-pulse theory, but in my view this is not going to work unless you can get your glucose very low, and also your glutamate which is not addressed by fasting alone.
Perhaps there are some folks who do find some benefit from fasting, but I would say that the majority of people would not. To me, having had prostate cancer and radiation therapy, the keto/carnivore diet allowed me to sail through the treatment with no side effects and I ended up with a great result, so far! So I can recommend the keto diet strategy if only for the reduction in side effects from cancer therapies.
I think you should read up on the science. Glucose isn't the only major player when it comes to cancer. The work.of Seyfried should suffice
Agreed
@@midnightalley4586 Hmmm, I also mentioned glutamate - what else is there? I've followed Prof. Seyfried for quite some time and he only talks about glucose and glutamate. I think I am missing your point...?
@@jasonwatson6104 I take it that your agreement is with midnightalley that I'm being ignorant! So, Ok - where do we differ?
I was just agreeing with both. To be honest it's the atophoghy and many more bennifits that can temporarily help with cancer. However you have to eat! People need to read seyfried more but the bennifits of fasting when yo yo yo diet are also greatly reduced!