Problems related to oil consumption. 1.3 mjet engines reviewed.
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- Hello guys! With so many years of experience, why are manufacturers still making such mistakes? Or do they do? The emission restrictions they are currently imposing on builders are overwhelming, all builders in one way or another are suffering from the consequences of putting in various emission reduction devices. In this case, the FIAT group managed to resolve the situation very well and on top of that it managed to further reduce emissions. Also ensuring a longevity of the engine and these devices, DPF, EGRs for much longer than the initial systems.
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Thank you for your amazing report! That is awesome! Thanks for watching
I have 500L 1.3mjt. 2013.with 285.000km. and 20.000 km.ago it was begin to burning oil (2.liters per 10.000 km),probably it is the same problem you're talking about.Regards
Hello. Maybe. I was able to save a few. Put an oil flush, flush it and then a additive for the new oil. Try that and service the engine every ten thousand
Awesome information, as always! ;)
Thank you very much!
Hey, my friend has Opel Meriva with FIAT 1.3 mjt engine. A plastic T-shaped part that connects coolant hoses had broke while he was driving, and he had lost all the coolant. He noticed that the temperature had increased, and when he stoped he checked the coolant, and he did not see any. He had put some water in the system, and drove it at minimum rpm and down the hill on idle to the mechanic, he had found the issue. That is fixed, but now he has that "engine oil degradation" warning light. His engine had the DPF. He says that he had restet the service interval in March when he had changed the oil. So, what could have caused this? Oil oxidation due to overheating? Fuel in the oil, but why all of the sudden? He has no signs of head gasket faliure so far.
Hello. Yes, hi temp can trigger that. The oil will suffer a lot to the point of no longer sustaine structure even after cold. It brakes down like crazy.
Better replace the oil with or without DPF.
@@alfaromeonoproblem Thank you. I will tell him.
Ok. Hope you like tomorrow's video.
Thank you for the video man!
I have punto evo 1.3 euro 5 and at startup I have white smoke from the exhaust and the engine is working rough.. till is wormed.. no coolant or oil loss what can be..
Hello. Normally it's injectors, it's typical. But many times too is the piston rings that are stuck
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Can you do a video for remove the alternator for alfa romeo 156 V6 engine.. Please help me.
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Hello and thanks for your information. I have that oil consumption from an 1.3mj 199b1000 Engine. It's uses about 500ml every 1000klm and I have noticed that when a Regen occurred it burns the most oil off that 500ml. Tomorrow I will try to desasable the engine and fix it, new rings or what it needs. After that what do you propose to do the engine. Dpf delete? What oil? Bigger oil pan?
Hello. After that a simple oil and filter service every 15k max will do. 5w40c3 will work just fine
@@alfaromeonoproblem thanks for your time.
Hi, I am happy owner of Alfa Romeo Mito 1.3jtdm 2013 (previously had a, 155, and 75.. and this Mito sure is more modern and economic 😅)...
But, my Mito has become oil happy. Besides this, what would you say in youre experience is most likely causes? I don't see or feel anything wrong with car on surface.
Hello. Thank you very much for watching. More often than none are the piston rings, and you can take care of that trying this:
th-cam.com/video/7uL_6vkEWPU/w-d-xo.html
I heard that only euro 5 engine have oil consumption, later euro 6 engine is supposably fixed from m oil consumption.
They are way better, yes
Which one is correct please?
Soot form the EGR that gets into the sump through blowby, mixed with the oil and onto the rings
Or, the soot from the EGR gets straight on the rings.
What part does the oil form the engine breather play with this?
The worse thing is really the low quantity of engine oil and the long service intervals. The oil gets cooked and creates a lot of soot.
@@alfaromeonoproblemThanks. So the bad guy is not tbe DPF after all? , I was trying to establish where that soot comes from in the quantities to causw this issue,. Combustion blow by and DPF I'm assuming?
@fishwagt1514 dpf gets clogged because of blowby as a consequence.
Hi there,
Suzuki Ignis with first generation of this engine, with 51kW, no dpf, only has catalytic converter, started consuming oil at 280.000 km. Turbo is leaking oil, it was tested in a dedicated turbo shop. But there is also oil in the intake side of turbo, so I am guessing oil is coming from engine itslef. Your thoughts on the matter? Rings worn down or something else.
Hello. You can try to do a piston ring decarb. Very common on this engines, even with no dpf.
I did the procedure on my 75. Is the same
Thanks for suggestion. Do I need to disassemble engine for this procedure or it is done on assembled engine?
Would increase in the oil pan (oil quantity) help this engine live longer?
If yes, is there a bigger oil pan available aftermarket or do I weld some extensions to the original pan.
Regards
@miloskovacevic2311 just remove the injectors and use dot 4 on top of the pistons for 24h.
Check out my video for that
@miloskovacevic2311 the euro 6 pan is way bigger. One more liter of capacity. Do not know if it is possible to modify or retrofit.
I burn off all the carbon of my piston rings, with high rpm on my 1.4 Sandero, so no oil consumption at all. :p
Off topic: I just had the left CV axle (LPR) replaced, and the gearbox oil (Elf Tranself NFP 75W80). And... Still have the same CV niose when turning sharp left under throttle, and clunking when let go off the throttle sometimes, as I had before. You told me that it could also be the transmission itself, so I guess it could be that, if nothing else can be the cause.
Anyway, 100 Euros down the drain and no improvement... -_-
Hello. Are you sure you replaced the correct side for the axle? It happens..but those gearboxes are terrible..
@@alfaromeonoproblem The left one. I think it is the left that was making the sound when turning, because in a 90 degree left turn, left wheel is turned more then the right one, so CV joint is under more load. I know they usually say, if you hear it when turning left, it is the right axle. But mechanics have checked them both some months ago, and told me that they are still good, but if one of them is the problem then it is the left one.
@@DashCamSerbia In my peugeot i have a bad right side cv joint (the whole axle needs to be replaced). It makes ugly noises when under throttle doing left turns.
@@martin1649 Yeah, I changed the wrong side.
@@DashCamSerbia the sounds it made before replacing were so loud i started hearing the left cv joint only after changing the right one.
Hi. I will try Liqui Moly Engine Flush Plus next week, just before the oil change. The thing is that my oil is at the max now, and the aditive is 300 ml. The engine should run for 10 minutes with the aditive in the oil. Is 300 ml over the max a problem?
Also, what do you think about Liqui Moly Visco Plus?
Hello. That is an excellent idea. About that oil, I do not know it. And even if I did, I do not have any experience on those engines, not yet.
@@alfaromeonoproblem Sorry I forgot to mention, that Visco Plus is not the oil, it is aditive for decreasing oil consumption. It is added to the oil, but I don't know how it does it.
So, having about 250 ml over the max on the dipstick is not a problem? For that 10 minutes of idle with the engine flush?
@DashCamSerbia no problem, go ahead
@@alfaromeonoproblem Thank you very much.
Hi there, looking for some advice on my 2011 1.3 multijet, i have failed my emissions test due to exessive smoke, it has 50K miles. The dpf had been deleted, egr had been coded out, many sensors had been coded out. So, i had a tuner turn everything back on (back to standard) i also replaced the Dpf, new EGT sensor, new MAP sensor, gave it a full service, i have replaced the crank breather assembaly. I can confirm everything is working corectly, i have not performed a dpf regeneration becauase i am currently waiting for a new Maf sensor. The van still smokes like it did when i failed the MOT, cutrently the maf is reading open circuit short to ground, but it does read temperature quite accurately but im not sure about air quantity. On idle the demanded air mass almost matches the actual air mass, but when you rev to 3000 rpm the actual air mass is around almost 40% more than the demanded air mass.... i dont know what else to do. Do you have any thoughts on my issue , thanks alfa man
Hello. I believe you are not on the best path...
Removing and coding out things will always let to bad diagnosis. And most parameters will be false.
On top of that, it will be almost impossible to pass emissions without the things that take care of that.. like DPF and EGR.
No you read my comment backwards, when I purchased the van I found that the dpf and egr had been electronically removed, I have now put the vehicle back to original. So now it HAS a working EGR, and dpf, all sensors are working
@russellvines9105 ok, sorry. Do you have the original map, sure?
Make sure the pipe between the air meter and the turbo is not damaged. Also you may have a blank on the EGR still. And probably the intake manifold very clogged
Yes we now have original map, I have installed a new/improved intake pipe that is very secure, I can confirm there is no blanking plate on the egr, I checked already to see correct operation of egr and there is no blanking plate. I have not checked to see if intake manifold is clogged, however, I can confirm that the van had alot of power before I had to 'de-tune' the engine for the emissions, it had enough power to spin the wheels haha. But, I had to make it standard again because of the issues with emissions. Do you think it's more likely that I have an issue with injectors or maybe I have an issue with the piston rings . Thanks for your reply I appreciate that you have taken the time to reply ro me, thanks
Before I dig deeper into the engine, I will install the new Maf sensor. I purchased a cheap sensor wich reads incorrectly. The original maf sensor has a short to ground issue. So.... I hope the new Bosh maf will fix my problem, but I have a feeling that there is another issue here. After installing the dpf I have not been able to perform a Regen due to a faulty EGT sensor - I replaced with a new one yesterday and it's working great, before I perform a regen I need to instal new MAF. Do you think my exhaust will smoke less once I have given it a good Regen? . Before I installed my used dpf filter I did soak it overnight in dpf cleaner before fitting to the engine, however , live data shows that it is still has some deposites in the filter ... I dont know if this will cause exessive smoke....
Can you clarify please. Are tou saying that a 4/30 c3 is better for this engine then a 5/20? Thanks
Ok. Here I'm again, I have overhaul the engine, with new sleeve , piston rings ,head and valve fix and check,
Since the overhaul I have 10.000 klm and now I see a small amount of oil consumption, about 300ml at every 10.000, and a small oil fumes at turbo\intercooler,
I'm so tired of that Fiat, why the hell it uses oil after 1800euro..
My other cars are like working horses and the fiat it's fix it again tony.
So friend what do you suggest?
Hello. Yes, the oil catch can can be bad, the valve inside. Also the turbo may have a small pass of oil
@@alfaromeonoproblem The turbo had been checked before 20.000 klm , that engine is totally defective.. where is the oil catch can, or the valve can you point me that.
The valve is inside the oil catch can, the part is below the intake manifold, follow the breather pipes
Fiat panda 312 1.3 mjd 75hp euro5 with 108000km suddenly start to burn oil . I don’t have white smoke . I do oil changes every 8000km only with Selenia wr 5w 30 . What you believe about it ?
Hello. The old same, crust on the piston rings. Try a engine flush and use 5w40 from now on
@@alfaromeonoproblem Thank you for your answer. Can I use 10 40 because my car has dpf delete and egr delete ?
You can, but replace it at 10.000 Kms max
@@alfaromeonoproblem What brand of oil is better to buy ?
Makes no difference to me as long as it is a quality one. Beware of the fake ones online.
I have a opel meriva 1.3 75 hp leak oil i font now if it is from oil reservuar or timing chain gasket
Very common to be on the crankshaft pulley seal, check it out
@@alfaromeonoproblem thanks i will check
My sister has an Opel Corsa 1.3 CDTI from 2010, and it was very reliable since new, until it reached the decade mark. It started to consume oil, even not being a car with high kilometers. The turbo had to be replace, so as the timing chain and oil pump. Now looks like it started to have issues with the DPF. Could the oil consumption be related with a DPF clogged? Thanks.
Hello. Thank you very much for watching the video. Yes, for sure the oil issue is clogging the dpf.
@@alfaromeonoproblem thanks. The strange thing is that the oil consumption started all of the suddenly not progressively, and even with a new turbo still continues. Kinda strange to be rings since isn't an high mileage car. Wonder if the PCV valve as any connection with the oil consumption.
I think that pcv doesn't have a valve. So it is a oil separator only. I would start by the piston rings treatment
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Great video, the governments interfere too much and change the rules too fast.
Yes, it's true. What took ten years to pass now in a matter of 2 two and it's harder every time
Always change my oil on my Alfa 2.4 at 3K miles maximum.
Hello. Why so low? Do you take a long time to do it?
@@alfaromeonoproblem Every Year regardless of mileage...for instance last year I did 103 miles and still changed everything all filters oil, air, pollen etc
Very well! I agree with you, I do the same
What year is the euro5 , my van is 2015 1.3 cdti engine code B13DTE is smoking a lot blue colour
Hello. I believe yourse is a euro 5. If it is not consuming oil, the blue smoke can be the fuel injectors.
@@alfaromeonoproblem fuel injectors? Blue smoke? How about turbo? Checked my van takes 4 litre of oil the 2006 takes 3.3 litre. Never heard injector produce blue smoke o my black and white smoke , never mind
It's very unlikely and uncommon for the turbo to fail on those. When it does is because of low oil level.
Hello. What is normal oil consumption for 1.9 jtd engine?
Hello. Close to zero, with a normal 5w40. Portugal climate
@@alfaromeonoproblem I just move to 10w40 selenia,170.000 km on board
Hi there. I have a Fiat 500L 2013 1.3 litre mjet with 80,000 miles and it has some significant oil consumption. I changed the oil to manufacturer specifications (Castrol 5W 30 S1) but still consumes a lot of oil. What can I do?
Hello. Thanks for watching. I normally do this:
th-cam.com/video/7uL_6vkEWPU/w-d-xo.html
Hope it helps. If not you will have to open the engine
Hi. I have fiat Fiorino 1.3 multijet. Turbo been replaced, on cold engine glow plug showing and sometimes is blue smoke on cold engine. I realised it taking a lot of oil what you think is ithat causes?
Hello. It seems to be the same like I said in this video
Thanks so you think oil change and filter will help? Thanks
@@alfaromeonoproblem what oil you recommend?
@adrianrutkowski7798 hello. It will after doing a piston ring cleaning.
th-cam.com/video/7uL_6vkEWPU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=k-11nWOKJY8YQqzX
@adrianrutkowski7798 the 5w40 for climate like Portugal
Hi i have a 2013 mito consuming oil but ive had egr and dpf delete ,could i use thicker oil?
Hello. Use 5w40
@@alfaromeonoproblem thank you 👍
@@alfaromeonoproblemhello I’ve changed oil but still very high oil consumption is there anything else it could be , also with heavy acceleration theres sometimes some smoke but thats rare.
@lukebrown9357 did you removed the injectors and took care of the piston rings? I have a video for that. A recent one
Link to that video please
Hi i have one problem i have an Alfa Romeo MiTo 1.3jtdm euro 5. sometimes the car can start the fan, change the sound of the engine and turbine and start blue smoke from the exhaust (absolutely everything looks and sounds like dpf regeneration) only there is no light on the regeneration started, diagnostics does not show the regeneration performed when this happens. do you have any advice for me what this could be? the car consumes 1-2 liters of oil per 10000km
The car uses Castrol magnatec 5-40dpf, all the highest quality filters, constantly pouring diesel with an additive as a kind of premium diesel fuel. The clutch set, the chain, the chain sliders for the chain, the rollers all, as well as the chain tensioners were replaced. The only thing I know at the moment that there is in the problem is one glove plug and I noticed when the engine was washed that the turbine leaks air in one place.
Hello. Ok, the smoke is not normal even for a regen. a normal one at least. Most of the times oil accumulated on the for does that. Also bad injectors does that smoke. But the fan kicking in appears to be regen.
Can you see on diagnosis the regen intervals?
@@alfaromeonoproblem they may be, but it doesn't happen all the time once in a few days. Yes I can see regeneration intervals(if you mean the mileage since the last regeneration) maybe 6 months ago i saw on delphi diagnostic that the dpf filter is 23% clogged, dpf was cleaned with some würth preparations, dpf was never removed. but never changed
Delphi is very bad diagnosis tool.. the percentage is not relevant, you will have the actual miles between regeneration
@@alfaromeonoproblem I pass about 600-1000km between the regenerations of the real ones where the notice on the board lights up
Hi,i have Fiorino 1.3 Euro5 with 75hp.I have problem , when i startup car ,engine knocking and knocking noise after some minute are disappearts but after 3-4min i have blue smoke and car engine rpm jump from 800rpm to 1000rpm.I have check 3 times injector(in Bosch servise),new timing chain,new glow plugs,new DPF.Oil is always on max.When car litle get worm all is OK.Also I have buy new MAP,MAF and new oil separator but not yet instal.Can you please help me?Thanks
Hello. Pretty sure your intake is clogged with carbon. It's common on those engines .. a good clean up will solve it
Hi,thanks for quick answer...I have planing to clean EGR,intake manifold,intercoler and to put new sensor MAP,MAF.
Hello. You can just clean everything, even the sensor.
Yes,I know but I think that new ones is better😁 and I have already buy them.
Make sure to buy quality ones.