How to Build a 500WHP 3.5 EcoBoost!
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- In this video, Zach covers the 5 Best performance modifications for Ford’s 3.5 EcoBoost. The 3.5 EcoBoost is a highly capable performance engine out of the factory. Therefore, the mods listed in this video can push your 3.5 EcoBoost anywhere from 450whp to 550whp. Who doesn’t love a faster ride? If you would rather consume this content by reading it, here is our article on our Tuning Pro website: tuningpro.co/best-ford-3-5-ec...
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00:31 - Differences Between the Gen1 and Gen2 3.5 EcoBoost
02:24 - The Best, and First, Mod for the 3.5 EcoBoost - Tuning
04:50 - The Second Mod for the 3.5 EcoBoost - Air Intake
05:48 - Open vs Closed Air Intake
07:58 - The Third Mod for the 3.5 EcoBoost - FMIC
10:22 - The Fourth Mod for the 3.5 EcoBoost - Downpipe
12:21 - The Final Mod for the 3.5 EcoBoost - Fueling
12:21 - The 5 Best Mods for the 3.5 EcoBoost Conclusion - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Excellent video very well presented clear, concise information as a new owner of an eco-boost. It is genuinely appreciated to have such a comprehensive guide.
D - Thanks for the feedback! We hope it was helpful.
Any company that does custom tuning will tell you to absolutely NOT TO RUN JB4 on top of the tune…as a custom tuner I have no way to guarantee that piggy back device will have no adverse effect on my calibration. If people were to take a basic tuning class they would understand there is no reason for a JB4 if you are runnning a custom tune
I have no guarantee your custom flash tune isn't going to happily run lean all day long without triggering any safety. Or that it won't keep pouring on more and more boost even after major timing pulls. But in all seriousness, the JB4 is highly proven in the BMW world and there isn't any reason it can't be very safely and effectively stacked with custom back-end flash tuning. There's a reason so many record holding BMW's use a JB4 + custom BEF. Either that or you switch to a standalone ECU like Syvecs.
This was golden content! Keep it up💪
Fresh - Thanks for the feedback and support!
Thank you for this video I'm about to buy the intake and intercooler tomorrow :)
Tactic - No problem! What vehicle do you have?
did you get it? How are you liking it?
Right on. Clear and concise.
Morty - Thanks for the feedback. Hope it helped!
Great info. Subscribed!
Bemore - Thanks for the support and feedback!
Great video, man! Thanks for sharing these great tips and explaining them really well. Much appreciated and I’ll be back for more!
Sean - Thanks for the feedback! Hope it helped.
Great video thanks
Carson - Thanks for the support. We hope it helped out!
I do want to point out that with the jb4 the stock pcm is a huge sandbag on performance. I’m currently running a fbo 2.7 eco set up on e50 and the jb4 is great but anytime I lay down the power on a race map, the stock pcm will throw the truck into limp mode. What I’m getting at is the jb4 is great for mild builds but if you’re looking for something serious you need to flash then run a jb4 on top.
Very good point. The JB4 is designed for a milder build unless you're planning to run a back-end flash with the JB4. That's exactly what we do on a few of our twin turbo BMW's. The JB4 was a great starting point but as we began building them out it was time for flash tunes. Now the JB4's control the secondary fueling system, act as a more accurate boost controller, have a few additional safety nets built in, along with some other handy features and benefits. Ultimately, we're big fans of the JB4 since it's a good starting point for mild builds and if you want to take things to the next level the JB4 is still a good tuner (with a proper back-end flash) that makes certain things simpler.
@@8020Media I’m a huge fan of the jb4 don’t get me wrong. Do you guys have a favorite flash tune system that you guys run the jb4 as a controller on? Once my warrantee is up I’ll be flashing.
Hi. Curious about the 2023 3.5L Raptor tune. It seems so far tuning isn’t possible? Any thoughts? I’d love to get mine tuned but not finding much, thought you might know. Thanks for the vids, really appreciate you sharing your knowledge! Look forward to more.
Livernois Motorsports is the only tuning available for the 23 raptor. No one else is able to yet
TC - There are a few companies that have tunes, but Livernois just came out with one.
I’d like to know what intercooler you’d recommend.
Right now I have the Livernois Tune with upgraded Spark Plugs, 3 bar map sensor and Thermostat. Custom Exhaust with a 3rd Cat delete. X-pipe straight piped to black chrome tips. K&N cold air intake. Blow off valves to atmosphere with
caps. Power stop heavy duty brakes on my winter flex.
Smoke - Sounds like you are building quite the rig! Our article will certainly help and push you in the right direction: tuningpro.co/f-150-3-5-ecoboost-intercooler-upgrade-guide/
Did u get the intercooler? If so , u notice any difference?
you talked about tuning a lot I want to be able to go back to factory setup as well as tune to what I want to experiment with is the a manual adjusting tuner out there that I can put on and lets say tweak my HP ? I alway run 93 octane since I bought my 2020 3.5 EcoBoost f150 I have compared gas milage and over the course of the 30 k miles I have driven 93 give me 2 plus miles to the gallon depending on hi way or city and how much im into the pedal of course ,you seem real knowageable on this subject that is why I am writhing this hopefully you will answer
Elektrik - Here is an article we've written that should help you out! tuningpro.co/ultimate-ford-3-5-ecoboost-tuning-guide/
Hey brou !
I have 2 questions:
How many pounds of boost does the 3.5 engine have to have to reach 500hp?
How many pounds of boost can the 3.5 engine hold or how many hp is the most that the factory turbos reach?
Darwin - You'll likely need around low 20's but this is quite close to the max.
Great video. I'm surprised a free flowing exhaust did not make the list. Would it be #6 or #7?
Jeff - For the price, we don't see an exhaust providing much power to warrant it on the list. But yes, it would be #6 or #7. However, if you want more sound out of your truck than certainly go for it. But don't purchase an exhaust in the hopes of seeing a meaningful increase in power.
?Man i really appreciate this im a mechanic in a area where there isnt much knowledge on these eco boost. First thing i bought this truck at a action a year ago and it has been great but when i got the truck there was a tube off im guessing from the intercooler to a spot it reticulates id like to put it back on or block the intake side off but i cant find where it goes second i pull a trailer almost everyday whats the best bang for the buck tunner for that and how much woyld a cat back exhaust help with a tune id like to see 100 gain on both sides just not sure the best way to get there
N - Sure thing man! Glad we could help.
my dealership gave me a lifetime warranty on my engine and transmission under the condition that i always get my oil and trans fluid changed on time by them or someone they have verified
so any tuning for me is out
but if there was a way fo get my 3.5 to go from 21 mpg to 25 mpg highway i would consider it RN my best MPG is 23 HW on 91
Friedrich - That's awesome that they would give a lifetime warranty! Unfortunately, there's not much you can do if you aren't willing to mod the car, understandably so.
How often does the intercooler get heat soak in day to day driving? Let's say southern climate. So in the 90s all summer?
Paul - Without knowing what your day-to-day commutes look like, it is difficult to provide an exact frequency of how often an intercooler will experience heat soak, but it is more likely to occur in the south. But, it may be more common in stop-and-go traffic, where there is limited airflow over the intercooler. Additionally, more aggressive driving that generates higher levels of heat can increase the likelihood of heat soak. However, under normal driving conditions and with a well-maintained cooling system, heat soak should not be a persistent issue.
still good I'm in Georgia it's hot as hell
Saw the intake on the table and thought hey something that’s new and real, lol shame it’s for something else based on the TB location..hey the GEN1 can easy make 500whp all day if you want to..
Here is the ticket , FR turbo headers ,kooks DOWN PIPES ,gen2 Garrett stage 2’s ,Wagner ATA ici..intank fuel pump, COLD AIR ,custom tune..that 580-590wtq and 480-525WHP.. NOW YOU CAN ALSO ADD SOME OTHER PARTS LIKE COLD, HOT PIPES, CAT BACK, THOTTLE BODY, METH, BUT THOSE AREMT AS IMPORTANT.. I ALSO. USE A OPEN INTAKE FILTER SAVES USING TWO FILTERS ,A SINGLE HUGE FILTER WORKS FINE..
Mark - We are working on turning our twin turbo 135i into a single turbo. But thanks for the insight! We couldn’t agree more.
Sup man? You got my attention. I got an 11 lariat 4x4. She's been babied for a while. Some older dude to stop that and drive it like it has 2 turbos! And the timing had to be redone with along other stuff thats realitive to the timing qnyways..what's ur recommendation again? U said headers and downpipe?
Do we have a video like this for the coyote v8 2019
This is the only Coyote mod guide we currently have: th-cam.com/video/2X8eN1QCs8M/w-d-xo.html
Where's a good source for Ford Explorer sport 3.5 eco performance parts? I can only find F-150 specific parts.
Our friends over at Livernois should have some options for the Explorer 3.5. livernoismotorsports.com?oid=8&affid=1
Ortiz performance, Eco Power Parts, Gearhead, PPE for DPs, XDI for fuel.
I am local to you, e.g. live in Denver/Golden area. Can you put an Intercooler in on my 21 PB F-150? I am not looking to boost it more, but want better temps when pulling load on the turbo air temps?
Hey James - unfortunately we don't do install work on other peoples vehicles. We are making our own intercooler for the F150's if you hold off for a few months we might be able to help with one of our own products but still a number of months away so if you are looking for an immediate solution I'd recommend giving it a go yourself, it's not a super challenging DIY.
@@8020Media that would be awesome if you can get someone who does install and sub contract the job to them or do it in-house. Big fan and local boy here..Cheers. PS, let me know if you get that stuff worked out cause I want to make sure my boost temps are low under heavy towing.
J - We'll keep you updated on our intercoolers. This could be something we do in the future!
I made just over 600whp with my old 2019 3.5 with few bolt ons and spicy e50 tune.
Tyler - I bet that was a fun one to have!
Most definitely was! Lots of hard miles on her and took it like a champ! Lol
That E50 tune is a beast!!! I absolutely love it, but my wallet and wife dont... 😂😂😂
how much was it? 😂
Was what?
How do I get max turbo noice, especially at low rpm? I want mine to sound like a diesel dam near
S - You likely won't sound like a diesel with a 3.5 EcoBoost. But if you are wanting turbo noises, an intake would be a good place to start. Then a blow off valve. But don't expect it to sound like a diesel.
@@8020Media wow I didn’t think y’all would respond! Thanks for the advice. I’ll go ahead and do that
S - We try to respond to everyone, no matter what! Keep us updated on this.
He is right get a CAI and you'll here those turbos. Upgrade the DPs and exhaust and you hear them even more.
Do second gen turbos fit on 1st gen trucks?
Cody - Here's a turbocharger upgrade article we've written on the 3.5 EB: tuningpro.co/ford-3-5-ecoboost-twin-turbo-upgrade-guide/
It should be useful.
Totally off topic but I’m curious on the tire/wheel/offset setup on the truck in the thumbnail?? Thank you!!
Barbara - This isn't our truck, wish it was, but we can look into it more!
How much is a rebuilt 3.5 ecoboost
Altops - You can find some good 3.5's online for 4-5k, but that doesn't take installation into account. So all in, maybe $6k-10k.
I went built, $13,000 for my 2013 F-150 3.5, but it's my truck for life, I will own it till I die, so it was worth the sacrifice to my wallet.
Sea - Thanks for sharing your experience!
Does anyone have a link for catless downpipes for a 2012 3.5 seems like they stopped making them…
Christian - These are certainly harder to come by nowadays, but there are some custom fab shops that can do it. Also, it looks Kooks Headers may have some.
Kooks still makes them, I believe but they are over a grand
It's not just that it's catless it's tuners are refusing to touch catless DPs. The EPA will come after them and shut them down.
spd catted downpipe or ricos performance downpipes
1st gen vs 2nd gen years?
What about it?
@@8020Media like what years were gen 1 and what years were gen 2. My bad
No worries at all! Just wasn't totally sure what you meant. Gen 1 was 2010-2017 and Gen 2 was 2017-Present. The years are different, but here's an article written by us that outlines which vehicles and years for the Gen 1 and Gen 2: tuningpro.co/ultimate-3-5-ecoboost-engine-guide/
Suggest next time just getting right to it pls.
Steven - This is why we have chapters on the video, so the viewer can control their viewing experience. Some people are interested in the differences between the first and second gens, especially if it has different power gains.
580hp i still hate my ecoboost but watching the sadness on 6.2 raptor and coyote owners faces getting drove around by a v6 makes me keep the ecoturd around😂
Brian - Nice build! Why do you hate your ecoboost?
You hate it, but here you are watching videos on it.
@@mattpoulter3836 yeah i dont really like it so maybe watching some videos on how to make it better and more enjoyable will help.... fkn potato
@@8020Media mostly the drone in the sound and had a ton of issues with rattling cam phazers and transmission modules but we worked them out finally
Dam. do something little like a tune. There beasts.. free mod remove turbo silencers, add an intake also.
I wish you’d do something
C - Not quite sure what is meant by this.
@@8020Media you’re just sitting in a chair talking.
C - Thanks for the feedback
First genners, don't forget get catch cans!!! Don't want that oil back in your intake!
Matt - Thanks for adding your insight!
@8020Media when ever I got it, I'll add it!
JB4 is a terrible tune solution lol. If you like an inconsistent tune made by some BMW tuners for non-bmw cars, go for it.
Out of curiosity, what is your personal experience with the JB4 and on what vehicle(s)? Much of it comes down to personal preference and goals. A custom flash tune may be the better route for some, and the JB4 the better route for others. Ultimately, the JB4 has its limits and those looking to run upgraded turbos, heavy E85 blends, etc. should avoid the JB4. It's a great, reliable, and consistent tune for those who just want a simple plug-and-play solution with basic bolt-on upgrades.
E85 fuel in a non E85 motor will F it up
Teop - correct.
Without tuning to support it correct. With the correct tuning. It’s just fine.
Correct, with upgraded fuel pumps and injectors, you can run E85 with zero issues.
I tuned my Expedition and totally wasted a Grand Waggoner.
Joes - Not sure I'm getting what you're meaning.
Build? Just get an e50 tune
Brandon - The building aspect is also to make a more reliable 500whp build. Not just throwing a tune on it and calling it a day. This is certainly a possibility, however, not as reliable as it could be!
Lost all credibility when he suggested an intake because of the sound…
Shawn - We threw that in as an ADDED bonus that an intake CAN add to your engine. As we said after, it can add anywhere from 3-10whp and increase the amount of airflow to the engine. Don't know if you got that far to hear that or not.
Way too much excessive talking..Keep it to the points
Green - These videos are made for every audience, beginner to expert. Therefore, we want to make sure the beginner viewer gets all the information needed.
So you are complaining about too much information being laid out in a manner that is easily understood for the entire TH-cam audience.
Ok.
Best mod for the EcoBoost is to just get a 5.0...😂 darn things has too many problems
Tee - Everyone has their own preferences and opinions, but we'll be releasing a 5.0 mod guide in the near future!
Rage - What is wrong?
The 5.0 makes less power and is less fun.
Im a v8 over v6 fan anyday will say i hate the sound but im 125k miles on my 550-580whp ecoturd and never done anything but change the oil. 5.0 sounds better yes but i eat 6.2 raptors and 5.0s easily unless they spent 10k in upgrades to just keep up
@brianellis5767 I'd like the 7.3 godzilla V8 with the ecoboost system just for fun. 😎