32X is my favorite version. It does feel better than the Saturn version, feels more solid in the graphics department and plays perfectly well. It also has a few more game modes, and you can select some funny character colors by holding down or up, and pressing A/B/C. There are 8 colors by characters, to accommodate for the 8 players tournament. Fantastic port considering the hardware and time, if you ask me. Which is pretty much true for a lot of 32X ports (Space Harrier, After Burner, Virtua Racing, Mortal Kombat II). Sadly, we will never know what the 32X associated with the Mega-CD could have produced, but I believe that a strong potential was there for 2D games with pixel-art backgrounds done by the MegaDrive, special effects handled by the 32X as well as colorful sprites, Redbook audio from the Mega-CD, as well as big storage space from the CD. The Mega-CD could even be used to handle elaborated backgrounds with 3D effects, because it had some good possibilities with the ASIC chip. We did get a glimpse of the configuration I just described with games like Kolibri or Knuckles Chaotix, but the Mega-CD was not in the equation.
The original Saturn Virtua Fighter looked great in the summer of 1995, despite the occasional glitching in the polygons, which you would notice mostly in the replays or closeups. It certainly was rushed and looked rough. VF Remix more than made up for it, and looks spectacular to this day. Sega also found a novel solution that takes advantage of the Saturn hardware, using VDP2 planes for the arena floors. This became the standard for all 3D fighting titles on the system, combining 2D and 3D assets to brilliant effect. Needless to say, if Sega America had launched the Saturn in September 1995 like they should have done, VF Remix would have been the pack-in game for the console. Would that have changed things? Perhaps. It's nice to imagine.
Virtua Fighter was a precursor for the future of gaming technology. Sega actually opened up a new world in my opinion with this game and Virtua Racing. (and I'm not even the biggest fan of 3-d fighters) This game was military-grade tech for the arcade for the time. Great comparisons!
I remember that the PC port came bundled with a shiny new 3D accelerator card. It made the game look and play AMAZING. You could play it without the card, but it looked and played all janky. With the card however, you got a better than console experience! Something us PC gamers weren't used to at the time.
Virtua Fighter is my favourite fighting game series. But the game i've played the most, must be the 32X version. i got it when it came out and played it to death, great artwork added to the game and the music was fantastic.
I Played a lot the Remix, It was bundled here in Brazil with some Saturns (together with Daytona USA - or ShoeBoxRacing USA- and Sega Worldwide Soccer 97). Good times.
Virtua Fighter Remix wasn't only released for Saturn, but also STV-based arcade and Windows PC. The original Virtua Fighter also has a regular Tiger Electronic handheld and an R-ZONE cartridge. While I keep hearing many in America mentioning Tekken more than Virtua Fighter, Virtua Fighter is still strongly loved in Japan, even Akira Yuki and Sarah Bryant figmas were released in original Virtua Fighter polygon looks, which I really love. Even the VF anime seems better than the Tekken one. Despite Tekken being considered the first 3D fighting game by Guinness World Records, a Virtua Fighter arcade cabinet was added in a Smithsonian museum. Some say they are both wrong and consider Sega's Dark Edge to be the first, but there are still some differences.
Whenever I buy myself a Saturn, Virtua Fighter Remix will definitely be in my collection for sure. I remember playing the PC version back in middle school along with Panzer Dragoon. They were fun, but those games kept crashing on us.
When i got my hands on the Saturn with release games, Daytona and Virtua Fighter, even though they were not the best ports, i just thought they were incredible, this was six months before the PS1 remember. The thought of playing these amazing games i'd only been able to play in the arcades and they actually bore some resemblence, OMG. I think Sega and the Saturn really shone with V.F.2 which was incredible at 60 fps and the Saturns highest resolution it really shone as one of the best 3d fighters at the time 32 bit consoles.
Vf2 on the Saturn is very impressive but have you seen Zero Divide on the Saturn. Same high resolution 60fps as VF2 but now with 3D arenas! I've Saturn Daytona. Looks like crap but plays so well.
Something else kinda neat about VF Remix on the Saturn that's hard to notice unless you look closely in an emulator is that it's running in a high-res 640x240 resolution (no interlacing since it's still 240 vertically, but it's horizontally double the norm).
I actually prefer the blocky look of the original Virtua Fighter rather than the Remix version. Gave the game a unique identity. I prefer the original version on the Saturn version. Granted some of that is nostalgia, since that's the first game Sega Saturn game that I played and owned.
I miss Yu Suzuki... No, scratch that, the video game industry misses Yu Suzuki... if it doesn't, then it should miss him. Sega's very own Miyamoto. A pioneer, a brilliant mind, one of the greatest and most influential developer from this industry. It's a shame that he no longer has a place in Sega or in this industry. This industry needs to learn how to treat better its greatest contributors. Suzuki deserves a lot more than what he is getting now... deserves a lot more than most...
CabooseAzul True, but people like Suzuki and Miyamoto need to be kept on a leash or their wild imaginations get away with them, and Sega totally failed at that. Yu Suzuki is why Sega had to drop the Dreamcast and leave the hardware market... it cost over $70 million to make Shenmue and nearly bankrupted Sega.
+ThruMy4Eyes the SEGACD was needed to show gamers what the future had in store for them, also sonic cd snatcher and all those classics. Now 32X was a piece of shit that we didn't need lmfao
Blank Blank 32x definitely isn't a piece of shit, with the Saturn & Ps1 just around the corner, It just wasn't needed! It was still a powerful bit of hardware at the time!
Tekken fan: Tekken is better, because it's easier. VF fan: VF is more rewarding. Tekken fan: Guinness World Records calls it the first 3D-fighting game. VF fan: A VF arcade cabinet can be found in a Smithsonian museum. Tekken fan: Tekken got an anime film. VF fan: VF got an anime TV series.
You didn't catch yourself writing that gaffe about Guinness World Record. Everyone who's older than 29 knows Virtua Fighter is the 1st 3D fighter game. It pioneered the franchise, it even says so in this video. The Guinness World Record for Tekken is for the *Longest Running Fighter game* , whatever that means.
Shinku Quickman VF being a hard a game is just an urban legend, it has a different learning curve than other series but at its core is among the most simple.
Like Daytona USA, Sega AM2 rushed the original Saturn port of Virtua Fighter for the system's launch and it shows. They even had another internal Sega studio to work on a semi-updated release, namely AM1 for VF Remix and AM3 for Daytona USA: Circuit Edition.
***** Yep, that is 100% correct. I would have loved how well the Saturn could have pulled off a better VF1. Just imagine that running in the VF2 resolution!
Great vid. One of my all-time favourites. Not too sure that the 32X could have easily replicated the arcade's music though - the audio boards alone are waaaay bigger than the 32X and the Mega Drive combined (minus the plastic casing obviously). The arcade version sounds amazing considering it's not Red Book Audio or whatever. I'll have to get a cheap copy of Remix soon - I never really gave that much attention back in the day. Looking forward to more great vids.
Would just like to say that I love these battle of the port videos you do, and I appreciate the effort that goes into making them. Thank you for keeping me entertained :-)
It brings me back…. Virtua Fighter was such an awe-inspiring game at the arcades back in the day. Even with its pedestrian polygon work, weird music, funny character selection screen, and uber-jumping, this game made such a big damn impression on you at the arcades that its just unbelievable. VF 4 on PS2 was another amazing achievement by SEGA right next to VF 2 on Saturn.
Vyse Legendaire I also remember the arcade cab having a massive CRT screen, much bigger than standard cabs of the time. VF4 on the PS2 is a wonderful port. Not perfect but still very impressive just as VF2 was on the Saturn.
Richard Craig Yep, that's right. THose of us lucky enough to see this in the arcade whenit was new sure experianced something in gaming that doesn't come along all that often. A true 100% jaw dropping moment!
My favorite version is Virtua Fighter Remix PC! This has always been the definitive way to play considering arcade emulation is rather poor (due to the hit detection barely working, even if the visuals were already fixed), the AI is the better Saturn one, you can pick between the flat shaded models or textured models, and, you can run it at a higher resolution! Unfortunately... Even tho i can run this version just fine on a modern computer without, it was, hard to figure out, so, what is sad, is in-fact, it is hard to get it running perfectly for many, even if it is on the PC. If the arcade version ever gets good collision emulation, then i'd say that is the best version, but we don't have that, so, yeah...
@@RetroCore I didn't find it creepy but the graphics were extremely primitive so that would make sense. It fueled my love of fighting and AM2 games which I still play on the regular with an emulator.
Great game, great comparison, as always. Thank you! The first three VF games have a special place in my heart. It's a shame that there isn't an arcade perfect port of VF1 to this day.
TheScottReilly Too true. When I got the VF 10th Anniversary disc with VF4 I was hoping for an arcade perfect port but it was just VF4 in a VF1 skin. Still, I can always pretend it's VF1 Ultra Edition :p
Yeah, it's true. I Own all 3. Actually, two of them are the same apart from the packing. The 3rd one with online play has the same game modes as the PC release from what I remember.
A Virtua Fighter arcade cabinet can be found in a Smithsonian Museum. But Guiness World Records said Tekken was the first 3D fighting game. Smithsonian researches deeper than Guinness World Records.
can you imagine an enhancement port of Streets of rage using sound effects from virtua fighter? i would love to see port like this,...or maybe a fanport.
The windows 95 version runs really well if you own an NV-1 based add-in card like the Diamond Edge 3D. It even has saturn controller ports built-into it! It's actually a left over from the deal that Sega had with Nvidia.
davidvfx Have a look at pics of the cancelled Fx Fighters game for the SNES. VF on the MD with the SVP would have looked just a tiny bit better than that
I think it would have looked much better to be honest. Even with the Super FX chip the SNES was still pretty slow at 3D. Take a look at stunt race FX. The frame rate is much slower than MD Virtua Racing and the actual game play window is half the size.
Looking at how the character models are in 32x version of VF, and knowing how the SVP version of Virtua Racing was, I honestly think that the game would have been good on a gameplay level (framerate, controls etc...) but it would have been awful on the graphics level...
I could tell right away the arcade version looked off somehow even though haven't played it since the mid 90s. I actually think the Saturn VF Remix looks amazing for the first 3D fighter ever running on a system known to have some 3D struggles. I'd probably stick with that version over any others personally, although the arcade without polygon shading has nostalgia value. This title and Virtua Racing were a quantum leap ahead, not sure if anyone who didn't experience them new in arcades could ever understand.
Leonardo Antonio There's Virtua Fighter Animation for the Master System/Game Gear and Virtua Fighter 2 done in 2D on the Genesis/MD. VF2 actually plays well, all things considered.
Nice one Yakumo, for the windows version, could fraps (software) solve the frame rate issue? I had vf1 and the remix bit kept playing vf2 all the way, go figure :-)
But it is. I'm one of the biggest Saturn fans out there so it's not a dig at the Saturn. Take a look at VF Remix and you can see just how refined it is compared to the original. The Saturn version of VF has so many polygon glitching yet in VF Remix there's hardly any plus it texture mapped.
I think I actually heard about the VF 10th anniversary version in a gaming magazine, although I could be wrong and mistook it for alternate costumes in VF3 or somethin'. I dunno
First comment! I stlill love VF to this day. I wish it had caught on here in the states. I get stared at as if I had 3 heads whenever I profess my undying love for the VF series. I remember first playing this while on vacation in Corpus Christi, Texas. I picked Kage and wondered how to throw fireballs with him... also having read the previews beforehand I was wondering what the hell had happened to Shiba? :)
Sadly VF isn't that popular these days in Japan. Takken 5 is the big one now. Hate Takken myself. Never could get in to the stiff controls. To me it felt as if you'd press a button but nothing would happen.
Retro Core VF not popular in Japan ? that's very sad news indeed. If i remember my Sega Saturn magazines correctly VF was at one point very popular in VF. I feel where RoryDropkick is coming from, was a very similar situation here in the UK. I recently got Tekken tag 2 but just can't get into it.
You forgot to mention Shenmue. Feel that shit has to be mentioned in any example of what Yu has made. Especially since Virtua Fighter was gonna be used as source material.
The Pc version of VF doesn't really uses the Graphics Card I think. A Special version of the game made to support the Diamond Edge 3D graphics card (to have saturn-like gfx) and it doesn't have the framerate issues.
Hey Mark, have you ever seen the Virtua Fighter anime? The full series is on TH-cam. Edit: Once you've watched an episode or two, tell me what you think about it.
Surprised to hear the Saturn was weaker in 3D than the Model 1 arcade board! I'm guessing Saturn has some advantages over the Model 1 hardware such as texture mapping and gourad shading but perhaps weaker in number of polygons per second it can push.
Below is a video for Virtua Fighter PC for the Diamond Edge 3D card th-cam.com/video/gKP1ZhiBx-E/w-d-xo.html Unlike the software rendered retail version that uses a checkerboard pattern for the ground like the 32X port, the Diamond Edge 3D port has texture mapped grounds like the Saturn Remix version.
Retro Core I think my favorite version is the pc one with some fixes and Dxwnd the game can run as intended on modern pcs without slowdowns also the pc version allows you to switch between Arcade models and Remix models it also allows you to change the brightness on character models the floor and background each one separately and you can even do this while playing! If anyone is wondering where i got the game with those fixes here's a link: thearcadestriker.wixsite.com/arcadecollection/virtua-fighter-pc it's easy to install you'll have to change some things manually to fix the framerate but it's not that hard, just set the framerate limit to 17 on dxnwd and the game will run at 60fps it still feels as fast the saturn port which is not a bad thing.
The Windows 95 port is great if you play it with a Saturn USB controller for PC. The Windows version lets you pick between the original polygon graphics of the arcade version and the texture mapped graphics of VF Remix on Saturn, so it's like 2 games in one. You can obviously just play VF Remix on Saturn and have just as good a game, but I like the original arcade graphics so since the original Saturn version sucks Win95 is the way to go. You do have to download some fixes and stuff to get the game working properly on a modern computer though.
The Saturn wasn't much weaker than the Am1 board. 80 mega flops vs 120 mega flops. The Saturn was somewhere in between Board 1 and Board 2 overall, albeit closer to Board 1. The Saturn was messy though from a developers point of view and initially Board 1 games looked like puke.
On PC port, you forgot to enable floor textures. I think F6 and some other function keys open menus during fights in which you can change graphical settings, camera settings, etc. Aside from that, there was a version of VF on PC optimized for Diamond Edge 3D card (actually, it came bundled with the card, if I remember correctly) and that version took advantage of 3D acceleration functions of the card making the game look and play more smoothly. Here's a direct comparison between software and hardware accelerated versions: th-cam.com/video/jChtlWNIAL4/w-d-xo.htmlm47s
Yeah, the likes of Rendition Verite and even Matrox Mystique (not to mention Voodoo Graphics) killed it. On the other hand, they did try to create a full multimedia card with Diamond Edge, but it just wasn't good for 3D as it wasn't rendering 3D shapes in a conventional way (it used quads instead of triangles)...
Retro Core Actually, the game I’m thinking of is VF Animation based off the anime. Now that I’m thinking about it, you could argue that it’s a completely new game.
I just can't get in to Tekken at all. I don't like the feel to pulling off moves. True I've never played any of the later games but the first two didn't do anything for me.
+Tony Peluso I'm jealous. I remember playing VF2 a lot 6 years ago, and it got depressing because I would never have any multiplayer with anyone, ever. What games in the series do you guys play?
I liked the fighting but the jumping really was ridiculous. Reality based characters with moves based on real stuff and then they made super extra floaty jumps. I still don't get it.
A Virtua Fighter arcade cabinet can be found in a Smithsonian Museum. But Guiness World Records said Tekken was the first 3D fighting game. Smithsonian researches deeper than Guinness World Records.
That's not even possible since Tekken was released on December 9th 1994 in the Japanese arcades while Virtua Fighter was released in December 1993 ! That's a whole year before.
32X is my favorite version. It does feel better than the Saturn version, feels more solid in the graphics department and plays perfectly well. It also has a few more game modes, and you can select some funny character colors by holding down or up, and pressing A/B/C. There are 8 colors by characters, to accommodate for the 8 players tournament. Fantastic port considering the hardware and time, if you ask me. Which is pretty much true for a lot of 32X ports (Space Harrier, After Burner, Virtua Racing, Mortal Kombat II).
Sadly, we will never know what the 32X associated with the Mega-CD could have produced, but I believe that a strong potential was there for 2D games with pixel-art backgrounds done by the MegaDrive, special effects handled by the 32X as well as colorful sprites, Redbook audio from the Mega-CD, as well as big storage space from the CD. The Mega-CD could even be used to handle elaborated backgrounds with 3D effects, because it had some good possibilities with the ASIC chip.
We did get a glimpse of the configuration I just described with games like Kolibri or Knuckles Chaotix, but the Mega-CD was not in the equation.
There were some games that were "Mega CD 32X" format, but they were just juiced up versions of FMV games. So mainly just Digital Pictures content.
The original Saturn Virtua Fighter looked great in the summer of 1995, despite the occasional glitching in the polygons, which you would notice mostly in the replays or closeups. It certainly was rushed and looked rough. VF Remix more than made up for it, and looks spectacular to this day. Sega also found a novel solution that takes advantage of the Saturn hardware, using VDP2 planes for the arena floors. This became the standard for all 3D fighting titles on the system, combining 2D and 3D assets to brilliant effect. Needless to say, if Sega America had launched the Saturn in September 1995 like they should have done, VF Remix would have been the pack-in game for the console. Would that have changed things? Perhaps. It's nice to imagine.
Virtua Fighter was a precursor for the future of gaming technology. Sega actually opened up a new world in my opinion with this game and Virtua Racing. (and I'm not even the biggest fan of 3-d fighters) This game was military-grade tech for the arcade for the time. Great comparisons!
SuperHighTechGamer Sega sure did inovate when it came to arcade tech.
Sega actually bought military-grade 3D hardware from Lockheed-Martin to make the Model 1 and Model 2 arcade boards.
I remember that the PC port came bundled with a shiny new 3D accelerator card. It made the game look and play AMAZING. You could play it without the card, but it looked and played all janky. With the card however, you got a better than console experience! Something us PC gamers weren't used to at the time.
Virtua Fighter is my favourite fighting game series. But the game i've played the most, must be the 32X version. i got it when it came out and played it to death, great artwork added to the game and the music was fantastic.
I Played a lot the Remix, It was bundled here in Brazil with some Saturns (together with Daytona USA - or ShoeBoxRacing USA- and Sega Worldwide Soccer 97). Good times.
Mame is getting better at Virtua Fighter emulation. Things like hair and cloth are now properly emulated.
Good to hear.
Liked how you added the "All versions comparison" at the end, is a good addition to the video and I hope you continue doing it going forward.
I think I will be although it is quite fiddly to do on the software I use. I'm going to look I to an easier way to do the same effect.
Virtua Fighter Remix wasn't only released for Saturn, but also STV-based arcade and Windows PC.
The original Virtua Fighter also has a regular Tiger Electronic handheld and an R-ZONE cartridge.
While I keep hearing many in America mentioning Tekken more than Virtua Fighter, Virtua Fighter is still strongly loved in Japan, even Akira Yuki and Sarah Bryant figmas were released in original Virtua Fighter polygon looks, which I really love. Even the VF anime seems better than the Tekken one.
Despite Tekken being considered the first 3D fighting game by Guinness World Records, a Virtua Fighter arcade cabinet was added in a Smithsonian museum.
Some say they are both wrong and consider Sega's Dark Edge to be the first, but there are still some differences.
Tekken or Dead or Alive wouldn't be existing without this game.
Whenever I buy myself a Saturn, Virtua Fighter Remix will definitely be in my collection for sure. I remember playing the PC version back in middle school along with Panzer Dragoon. They were fun, but those games kept crashing on us.
When i got my hands on the Saturn with release games, Daytona and Virtua Fighter, even though they were not the best ports, i just thought they were incredible, this was six months before the PS1 remember.
The thought of playing these amazing games i'd only been able to play in the arcades and they actually bore some resemblence, OMG.
I think Sega and the Saturn really shone with V.F.2 which was incredible at 60 fps and the Saturns highest resolution it really shone as one of the best 3d fighters at the time 32 bit consoles.
Vf2 on the Saturn is very impressive but have you seen Zero Divide on the Saturn. Same high resolution 60fps as VF2 but now with 3D arenas!
I've Saturn Daytona. Looks like crap but plays so well.
Something else kinda neat about VF Remix on the Saturn that's hard to notice unless you look closely in an emulator is that it's running in a high-res 640x240 resolution (no interlacing since it's still 240 vertically, but it's horizontally double the norm).
Richard Craig yep, I know that because I'm a RGB gamer :)
Virtua Fighter Remix was also brought back to arcades on the STV hardware. I had that game for a little while; not bad.
It was indeed. I saw it in arcades a few times back in the mid 90s.
Always liked playing as Kage; Gotta love his muff diver move :p
Hahaha, muff diver. Never looked at it that way.
Thanks for posting this. I'm keeping my JP copy remix. Playing cant observe how nice it really looks compare to watching it.
I actually prefer the blocky look of the original Virtua Fighter rather than the Remix version. Gave the game a unique identity. I prefer the original version on the Saturn version. Granted some of that is nostalgia, since that's the first game Sega Saturn game that I played and owned.
The fighters on 32x look so cute
I miss Yu Suzuki...
No, scratch that, the video game industry misses Yu Suzuki... if it doesn't, then it should miss him.
Sega's very own Miyamoto. A pioneer, a brilliant mind, one of the greatest and most influential developer from this industry.
It's a shame that he no longer has a place in Sega or in this industry.
This industry needs to learn how to treat better its greatest contributors.
Suzuki deserves a lot more than what he is getting now... deserves a lot more than most...
CabooseAzul True, but people like Suzuki and Miyamoto need to be kept on a leash or their wild imaginations get away with them, and Sega totally failed at that. Yu Suzuki is why Sega had to drop the Dreamcast and leave the hardware market... it cost over $70 million to make Shenmue and nearly bankrupted Sega.
***** No, but it was the final nail in the coffin.
+ThruMy4Eyes the SEGACD was needed to show gamers what the future had in store for them, also sonic cd snatcher and all those classics. Now 32X was a piece of shit that we didn't need lmfao
Richard Craig thats not true!
Blank Blank 32x definitely isn't a piece of shit, with the Saturn & Ps1 just around the corner, It just wasn't needed! It was still a powerful bit of hardware at the time!
The 32x version has more options including early 16:9 widescreen support that was used in later games of the time into the 2000s.
Tekken fan: Tekken is better, because it's easier.
VF fan: VF is more rewarding.
Tekken fan: Guinness World Records calls it the first 3D-fighting game.
VF fan: A VF arcade cabinet can be found in a Smithsonian museum.
Tekken fan: Tekken got an anime film.
VF fan: VF got an anime TV series.
You didn't catch yourself writing that gaffe about Guinness World Record.
Everyone who's older than 29 knows Virtua Fighter is the 1st 3D fighter game. It pioneered the franchise, it even says so in this video.
The Guinness World Record for Tekken is for the *Longest Running Fighter game* , whatever that means.
VF is supposed to be easy... and it is easy.
@@thesch2867 It's literally known in the FGC as the hardest to master fighting game, but okay.
Shinku Quickman VF being a hard a game is just an urban legend, it has a different learning curve than other series but at its core is among the most simple.
Street Fighter 2 fan: you both are morons.
Don't know why but 32X looks niiiiice!
***** It's not bad for the hardware but has a noticeable downgrade in graphics compared to the other versions.
Retro Core for sure, but it has that feeling of retro polygons :-)
Vincent GR and no loading.
Also 32x was nice.
32X had the best at the time ports of VF and MK2, subjective I know but every vid I've watched from dude he shits all over 32X.
Like Daytona USA, Sega AM2 rushed the original Saturn port of Virtua Fighter for the system's launch and it shows. They even had another internal Sega studio to work on a semi-updated release, namely AM1 for VF Remix and AM3 for Daytona USA: Circuit Edition.
***** Yep, that is 100% correct. I would have loved how well the Saturn could have pulled off a better VF1. Just imagine that running in the VF2 resolution!
Great vid. One of my all-time favourites. Not too sure that the 32X could have easily replicated the arcade's music though - the audio boards alone are waaaay bigger than the 32X and the Mega Drive combined (minus the plastic casing obviously). The arcade version sounds amazing considering it's not Red Book Audio or whatever. I'll have to get a cheap copy of Remix soon - I never really gave that much attention back in the day. Looking forward to more great vids.
Would just like to say that I love these battle of the port videos you do, and I appreciate the effort that goes into making them. Thank you for keeping me entertained :-)
SoulFunkRetro And thank you too for watching the shows. Please tell your friends to help the popularity grow.
It brings me back…. Virtua Fighter was such an awe-inspiring game at the arcades back in the day. Even with its pedestrian polygon work, weird music, funny character selection screen, and uber-jumping, this game made such a big damn impression on you at the arcades that its just unbelievable. VF 4 on PS2 was another amazing achievement by SEGA right next to VF 2 on Saturn.
Vyse Legendaire I also remember the arcade cab having a massive CRT screen, much bigger than standard cabs of the time.
VF4 on the PS2 is a wonderful port. Not perfect but still very impressive just as VF2 was on the Saturn.
I remember seeing this in arcades for the first time, and my jaw literally dropped. It was right next to an MK2 cabinet, and suddenly MK looked silly.
Richard Craig Yep, that's right. THose of us lucky enough to see this in the arcade whenit was new sure experianced something in gaming that doesn't come along all that often. A true 100% jaw dropping moment!
It is amazing what good programming can do. You have this on Saturn... and also Tomb Rider... Greetings from Poland :)
Hi, thanks for watching 👍
@@RetroCore you are doing cool stuff :) you're welcome :)
Not only that half of Tekken developers came from the split in AM2 after making Virtua Fighter 1.
My favorite version is Virtua Fighter Remix PC! This has always been the definitive way to play considering arcade emulation is rather poor (due to the hit detection barely working, even if the visuals were already fixed), the AI is the better Saturn one, you can pick between the flat shaded models or textured models, and, you can run it at a higher resolution! Unfortunately... Even tho i can run this version just fine on a modern computer without, it was, hard to figure out, so, what is sad, is in-fact, it is hard to get it running perfectly for many, even if it is on the PC. If the arcade version ever gets good collision emulation, then i'd say that is the best version, but we don't have that, so, yeah...
I remember the moment I saw a brand new Virtua Fighter machine. I was enthralled and promptly dumped my entire arcade budget into the machine.
It truly was amazing back in the day. I remember just staring at the cabinet thinking how creepy it looked 😂
@@RetroCore I didn't find it creepy but the graphics were extremely primitive so that would make sense. It fueled my love of fighting and AM2 games which I still play on the regular with an emulator.
I really like the 32X version's music, it feels powerful and cool for being FM+PCM
I does have it's charm.
Great game, great comparison, as always. Thank you!
The first three VF games have a special place in my heart. It's a shame that there isn't an arcade perfect port of VF1 to this day.
TheScottReilly Too true. When I got the VF 10th Anniversary disc with VF4 I was hoping for an arcade perfect port but it was just VF4 in a VF1 skin. Still, I can always pretend it's VF1 Ultra Edition :p
My friend, your channel is very good and awesome, congratulations and greetings from Chile!!
Thank you very much! I'm happy to have fans around the world.
I didn't know there was 3 versions of VF Remix in japan and one of them had the versus online. It's pretty amazing how early it was. Nice info.
Yeah, it's true. I Own all 3. Actually, two of them are the same apart from the packing. The 3rd one with online play has the same game modes as the PC release from what I remember.
Very, very interesting. Thanks for the info.
mukankakuna
No problem. When it comes to Japanese Saturn games I'm your man. I own all of them :), well, 99% of them.
A Virtua Fighter arcade cabinet can be found in a Smithsonian Museum.
But Guiness World Records said Tekken was the first 3D fighting game.
Smithsonian researches deeper than Guinness World Records.
can you imagine an enhancement port of Streets of rage using sound effects from virtua fighter? i would love to see port like this,...or maybe a fanport.
Nice crunchy hits 👍
That VF Anniversary game for the PS2 looks awesome. A rarity for sure.
Interesting: in only 2-3 years developers made progress from painted wooden figures to models with textures.
Is is quite amazing at the rate graphics advanced.
The windows 95 version runs really well if you own an NV-1 based add-in card like the Diamond Edge 3D. It even has saturn controller ports built-into it! It's actually a left over from the deal that Sega had with Nvidia.
Somebody else mentioned that. Just a shame I don't own one to show how it could look.
Yeah, I do wish they were easier to get a hold of. most of what goes on second hand sale these days is just a bare card and not the whole bundle.
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I have never seen Sarah in the Windows version punching Pai's hat off of her head before.
Yeah, she can do it in THE Saturn and 32X versions as well.
The 32x add on adds additional sound hardware to mega drive sound capability
That's right.
I would have liked to see the version that was planned for the MD, with the SVP chip; it would be below the 32x; I would have been very interesting.
davidvfx Have a look at pics of the cancelled Fx Fighters game for the SNES. VF on the MD with the SVP would have looked just a tiny bit better than that
I think it would have looked much better to be honest. Even with the Super FX chip the SNES was still pretty slow at 3D. Take a look at stunt race FX. The frame rate is much slower than MD Virtua Racing and the actual game play window is half the size.
Looking at how the character models are in 32x version of VF, and knowing how the SVP version of Virtua Racing was, I honestly think that the game would have been good on a gameplay level (framerate, controls etc...) but it would have been awful on the graphics level...
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It sure would have looked far worse than the 32X version but I think it would be better looking than what FX fighter was going to be.
I could tell right away the arcade version looked off somehow even though haven't played it since the mid 90s. I actually think the Saturn VF Remix looks amazing for the first 3D fighter ever running on a system known to have some 3D struggles. I'd probably stick with that version over any others personally, although the arcade without polygon shading has nostalgia value. This title and Virtua Racing were a quantum leap ahead, not sure if anyone who didn't experience them new in arcades could ever understand.
Pretty good, a lot of nostalgia, I played a lot VF2 on my old Win 98 Pc, Can't imagine a ZX Spectrum game of VF hehehe
Leonardo Antonio It would be funny to see though.
Retro Core I think there are tiger handheld versions, not sure but I think there are
Yes, there is a Tiger Virtua fighter game :) I think it's Virtua Fighter 2 but I'm not sure.
There is another 2d version, I'm not sure if it is a unoficial famicom version or another console
Leonardo Antonio There's Virtua Fighter Animation for the Master System/Game Gear and Virtua Fighter 2 done in 2D on the Genesis/MD. VF2 actually plays well, all things considered.
good work
Nice one Yakumo, for the windows version, could fraps (software) solve the frame rate issue? I had vf1 and the remix bit kept playing vf2 all the way, go figure :-)
Allan Almeida Hmm, maybe but I'm not sure. Fraps needs to be paid for doesn't it?
The last time I had it, it was free
I'll have to give it a try!
I certainly wouldn't have called the Saturn version a glitchy mess of a game just because it wasn't perfect.
But it is. I'm one of the biggest Saturn fans out there so it's not a dig at the Saturn. Take a look at VF Remix and you can see just how refined it is compared to the original. The Saturn version of VF has so many polygon glitching yet in VF Remix there's hardly any plus it texture mapped.
I wonder is there is an option in the windows versions Ini to have it vsynced or framelimited.
I think I actually heard about the VF 10th anniversary version in a gaming magazine, although I could be wrong and mistook it for alternate costumes in VF3 or somethin'. I dunno
You probably did. It was a free disc with FV4. Sometimes you can buy the 10th anniversary disc on its own via Yahoo Auctions.
I don't know why, but I actually like the 'gritty' sound of the 32X soundtrack...
It's an acquired taste that's for sure.
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I stlill love VF to this day. I wish it had caught on here in the states. I get stared at as if I had 3 heads whenever I profess my undying love for the VF series. I remember first playing this while on vacation in Corpus Christi, Texas. I picked Kage and wondered how to throw fireballs with him... also having read the previews beforehand I was wondering what the hell had happened to Shiba? :)
Sadly VF isn't that popular these days in Japan. Takken 5 is the big one now. Hate Takken myself. Never could get in to the stiff controls. To me it felt as if you'd press a button but nothing would happen.
Retro Core VF not popular in Japan ? that's very sad news indeed.
If i remember my Sega Saturn magazines correctly VF was at one point very popular in VF.
I feel where RoryDropkick is coming from, was a very similar situation here in the UK.
I recently got Tekken tag 2 but just can't get into it.
There once was a time when VF was the only game Japanese cared about but after the PS2 release of VF4 it's popularity started to fade :(
You forgot to mention Shenmue. Feel that shit has to be mentioned in any example of what Yu has made. Especially since Virtua Fighter was gonna be used as source material.
Vf back story was going to be Shenmue at one point :)
The Pc version of VF doesn't really uses the Graphics Card I think. A Special version of the game made to support the Diamond Edge 3D graphics card (to have saturn-like gfx) and it doesn't have the framerate issues.
That version wouldn't run on my PC I don't think because I don't have that card.
yeah, I know^^
Maybe one day someone will do a wrapper for the Nv1 just like how we have a 3Dfx/Glide Wrapper
Le Docteur
We can hope so.
I didn’t know this but at the end it looks like VR remix has the same arcade perfect back rounds as the model 1 Just the fighters were better looking
Wasn’t there a megadrive version too?
That's VF2
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Hey Mark, have you ever seen the Virtua Fighter anime? The full series is on TH-cam.
Edit: Once you've watched an episode or two, tell me what you think about it.
I watched it back in the late 90s. It was okay from what I remember.
Surprised to hear the Saturn was weaker in 3D than the Model 1 arcade board! I'm guessing Saturn has some advantages over the Model 1 hardware such as texture mapping and gourad shading but perhaps weaker in number of polygons per second it can push.
6:22 I don't know, the 32x soundtrack sounds good to me
I played a lot this windows version
It would have been good if the Sega Megadrive got a conversion of VF1 considering how impressive Virtua Racing is on the system.
I always wanted to see that but in the end it probably wouldn't have looked so hot.
Below is a video for Virtua Fighter PC for the Diamond Edge 3D card
th-cam.com/video/gKP1ZhiBx-E/w-d-xo.html
Unlike the software rendered retail version that uses a checkerboard pattern for the ground like the 32X port, the Diamond Edge 3D port has texture mapped grounds like the Saturn Remix version.
Thanks for the link.
Virtua Fighter 1 Remix is the better version of Virtua Fighter 1.
wasn't the pc version compatible with a specific graphics card?
Yes, that's beleive it was but I don't know which.
Retro Core I think my favorite version is the pc one with some fixes and Dxwnd the game can run as intended on modern pcs without slowdowns also the pc version allows you to switch between Arcade models and Remix models it also allows you to change the brightness on character models the floor and background each one separately and you can even do this while playing!
If anyone is wondering where i got the game with those fixes here's a link: thearcadestriker.wixsite.com/arcadecollection/virtua-fighter-pc it's easy to install you'll have to change some things manually to fix the framerate but it's not that hard, just set the framerate limit to 17 on dxnwd and the game will run at 60fps it still feels as fast the saturn port which is not a bad thing.
The Windows 95 port is great if you play it with a Saturn USB controller for PC. The Windows version lets you pick between the original polygon graphics of the arcade version and the texture mapped graphics of VF Remix on Saturn, so it's like 2 games in one. You can obviously just play VF Remix on Saturn and have just as good a game, but I like the original arcade graphics so since the original Saturn version sucks Win95 is the way to go. You do have to download some fixes and stuff to get the game working properly on a modern computer though.
I would go for Virtua Fighter Remix on the Sega Saturn or for the one on the PS2 bonus game.
I remember being really impressed with VF Remix when it first came out. It was such an improvement over the original game.
You sure did, 1st Fighting game that looked the way it did back in the early 90's.
Seeing Akira's face up close for the first time was kind of creepy. I remember thinking it looked so life like :D
Haha, the introduction of new 3D back in the days with creepy looking faces :P
Believe it or not there was a port for mobile phones via java
I had a Nokia Express music and I was able to get the game.
Yes it was polygonal
wow, now that is news to me. Going to try and find that.
the only thing i don´t like about virtua fighter is that moon jump...
At the time it wasn't an issue since there was nothing else like it go compare to but these days it does seem strange.
14:31 Pai hitting that dab.
Sorry.
The Saturn wasn't much weaker than the Am1 board. 80 mega flops vs 120 mega flops. The Saturn was somewhere in between Board 1 and Board 2 overall, albeit closer to Board 1. The Saturn was messy though from a developers point of view and initially Board 1 games looked like puke.
On PC port, you forgot to enable floor textures. I think F6 and some other function keys open menus during fights in which you can change graphical settings, camera settings, etc. Aside from that, there was a version of VF on PC optimized for Diamond Edge 3D card (actually, it came bundled with the card, if I remember correctly) and that version took advantage of 3D acceleration functions of the card making the game look and play more smoothly. Here's a direct comparison between software and hardware accelerated versions: th-cam.com/video/jChtlWNIAL4/w-d-xo.htmlm47s
Yes I remember the Diamond Edge 3D card in 1995 I wanted one, but luckily I didn't get one as it died very quickly
Yeah, the likes of Rendition Verite and even Matrox Mystique (not to mention Voodoo Graphics) killed it. On the other hand, they did try to create a full multimedia card with Diamond Edge, but it just wasn't good for 3D as it wasn't rendering 3D shapes in a conventional way (it used quads instead of triangles)...
+RandomlyDrumming but quads are like the SEGA Saturn :/
SEGA best power hardware on ARCADE
VF
Te faltó la versión arcade de virtua fighter remix
Wasn’t there a master system port?
That was Virtua Fighter 2. It was released only in Brazil I believe.
Retro Core Actually, the game I’m thinking of is VF Animation based off the anime. Now that I’m thinking about it, you could argue that it’s a completely new game.
What about the genesis version?
That's VF2
@@RetroCore you're right. Thank you for spending the time to clarify that. Your channel is great
un video excelente
muchas gracias.
I've got a playthrough of the actual arcade PCB here if anyone's interested
th-cam.com/video/I5qQCdkHJFE/w-d-xo.html
i bought that game but just The cartridge for 10 bucks
The avgn reviewed it
No sega md port?
That's VF2.
@@RetroCore , thanks
Sega staff made Tekken, don't forget that
ex Sega staff
I just can't get in to Tekken at all. I don't like the feel to pulling off moves. True I've never played any of the later games but the first two didn't do anything for me.
I play a bunch. I actually got a VF community that I play with here in NYC
***** nice!
+Tony Peluso I'm jealous. I remember playing VF2 a lot 6 years ago, and it got depressing because I would never have any multiplayer with anyone, ever.
What games in the series do you guys play?
You sound like the Chinese food guy from South Park!
Welcome to shitty wok or whatever the restaurant was called :)
+Retro Core Welcome to Shitty Wok how can I take your order prease?
Glitchman I'd like some *_get out_*
I liked the fighting but the jumping really was ridiculous. Reality based characters with moves based on real stuff and then they made super extra floaty jumps. I still don't get it.
They live in a fantasy world :) but yeah, the jumps were odd.
Matthew Leo That was a thing in early 3D fighting games. MK4 managed to beat them to the punch by not doin' that :V
Lau Chan >>>>>> Master Tao Paipai
Well of course the remake is ass!
Yep. Normally they are.
A Virtua Fighter arcade cabinet can be found in a Smithsonian Museum.
But Guiness World Records said Tekken was the first 3D fighting game.
Smithsonian researches deeper than Guinness World Records.
That's not even possible since Tekken was released on December 9th 1994 in the Japanese arcades while Virtua Fighter was released in December 1993 ! That's a whole year before.