Hey John. I just noticed today a sale on the MSI Suprim X at Canada Computers. It's now only 50 dollars more than a Gigabyte Gaming OC and the same price as the Zotac Amp Extreme Airo. After all of these card reviews do you think this may be the card to get especially on sale?
Good morning John! Wow, you are right. $200 coupon off the Suprim X Liquid, $100 off the Suprim X, and there are a few open-box solutions. It's a gamble with open boxes because they were probably returned due to coil whine. Yeah, if you were on the fence, this makes the Suprim way more affordable than the Strix.
Excellent and timely video! My 4090 Suprim X was delivered today. Still can't believe I spent so much on a GPU. LOL! This thing is beast mode incarnate. Gaming aside, I'm quite certain it would be useful as a bludgeoning weapon should my aluminum bat be out of reach during a home invasion. New subscriber!
I managed to do this on my MSI 4090 Suprim X 2775 Mhz - curved +1500 to mem 80% PL 950mV stable on timespy and port royal. No coil whine whatsoever, and temps at 60s
@nagzz06 whats your PSU? I have a corsair 850rmx gold and one of the 4 ports are daisy chained. So im a little hesitant on touching anything over the limits but interested in hearing yours!
i bought MSI 4090 Suprim LX. I managed to get 3.15Ghz coreclock + 1500Mhz VRAM stable. The benchmark I got on timespy score was 29000 default and 39000 OC. Core temp was about 68C + 530Watts .
Wow, that's incredible! I definitely experienced way better overclocking potential with the LX version of the card, but it didn't jump that much! Mine went 32000 default to 33500 OC. Well done. What case are you using? Where did you mount the rad?
I am a huge fan of MSI Suprim design. It was great for 30- series card and still is best looking design. This easly beats Asus Strix design. I have MSI RTX 3070 Ti Suprim X. I still think that MSI dragon logo is better than this shape on backplate.
I'm with you! I prefer MSI's design this generation over the boxy Strix design. I'm just about to crack open an MSI 4090 Gaming X Trio - so stay tuned for that review soon!
Great review John, I am a little late to the RTX 4090 party but have recently decided to treat myself to one of these cards. I have been thinking of purchasing either the MSI Gaming X one, Suprim X or the ASUS TUF. I hear those three are very good and quiet. My question here would be, which of these would you recommend for someone who values noise above else? I don't mind coil whine so much as it's one of those lottery things but when it comes to fan noise I would like the least annoying one. I won't consider the MSI Liquid X as I am planning on reselling once the 5090 comes out in the future. Also, I hear the Gaming X Trio lacks a vapor chamber, would this make any difference?
Welcome to the 4090 party! ;) Regarding noise, all three cards are similarly designed with three axial fans. Yes, you're right, the Suprim has a vapor chamber which isn't tied directly to noise.. but consider, if the vapor chamber helps reduce thermals, than the fans don't need to spin as hard. So, it would probably be number one, with the TUF card coming 2nd. It's a thick boy card with a huge heatsink, so it'll also be cooler than the Gaming X Trio. The best solution for ultra quiet is always water cooled.. but that's a whole different beast. Consider that the TUF is the more popular card to watercool, so if you ever wanted to go that way, there are lots of compatible waterblocks. Hope this helps!
@@JohnLCharette Thanks so much for your input John, it helped me make a decision. I have ordered the MSI 4090 Suprim X as it was reduced on a daily deal. The Gaming X Trio was too close price wise to the Suprim X so I just ended up choosing the Suprim X. I cannot wait to set it up when it arrives. The only downside to this is both my wife and wallet don't seem too happy with me 🙂Though I am sure my wife will come round when she gets to play her Sims games...
I have a Suprim X 4090 as well but my Phanteks AMP 1000 came with a dedicated cable to the PSU. 2 8 pin to 12vhpwr which keeps things nice and clean looking in my case. I was also having problems with the stupid Nvidia 4 pin adapter hitting my side glass panel making it difficult to close the panel without hitting the glass.
That's a beautiful power supply! And yes, that's awesome that it comes with a 2x8pin 12vhpwr cable. I think everyone needs one and the adapter should become obsolete. What case are you using that you ran into an issue with the adaptor?
OC any 4090 is very hit and miss. Is it worth the electric cost? I don't think it is because the games that improve from the OC are very different. Some get 3/5 fps, and some have done 10/15+. In my bench runs, the Suprim X was slightly faster than the Strix OC out of the box, but I would say if you were to push the cards, the Strix would be the winner, but again, at what cost for what gains.
I agree. I'm in the mindset of buying something that's fast enough out of the box. I'm not interested in OC'ing for a 1-5% gain. I'm also not performance focused. I'd rather have a good looking, stable card that's a bit slower than something that crashes in the middle of my game.
@@JohnLCharette Cards I tried. Tuf OC, built like a brick, plain, quiet, 2 hdmi, noticeable coil whine. Strix OC, great build, great cooler, ok lighting, quiet, 2 HDMI, noticeable coil whine. Zotac Extreme, odd-looking but cool, amazing lighting, terrible fans. Ok amounts of coil whine. Gigabyte Gaming OC, plain, great vrm temps, can OC a lot, average fans....mine set on fire at stock. Think a power phase blew. ok amounts of coil whine. Suprim X, great looks, quiet, best benchmarks by about 3/4% out of the box, noticeable coil whine. Suprim X also seem to have better lower av fps so it felt a little smoother than the other 4090s, but its coil whine is as bad as the Strix OC.
@MrMr Gaming, it sounds like we've reviewed quite a few of the same cards. Sub'd your channel - keep at it! Next up for me is a MSI 4090 Gaming X Trio and a Zotac 4070 Ti OC Trinity. Meanwhile, I'm working on a full custom liquid cooling build, which I've only helped on one build before. Do you have any experience with water cooling?
@JohnLCharette HI, and likewise to yours. Next up is the Asus Loki PSU which is due in a week. I'm going to see if it reduces coil whine on these cards. Water cooling is a no-go for me due to stripping my PC way to often.
Yeah, the wattage limit bugs me on mine. Why they would make it lower than the FE boggles the mind. Still, I'm sure I'll never notice it. I'll mildly OC the card and be happy... but that silly limit will always be in the back of my mind.
My theory is that 3x 8pin connectors + 75w from the board adds up to 525w. That means people with only 3x 8pin connectors on their power supply can still use the full force of the card. You'd want to use 4x 8pin connectors for the full 600w.
Ohhh, interesting choice. I haven't had a chance to try the Zotac AMP, but I've only heard great things. The Suprim is #1 when it comes to power phases, if overclocking is important to you. I like the Zotac AMP design a lot more though, personally. I'd go AMP ;)
@@JohnLCharette Hey! Thanks for responding. I couldn’t decide between the two so I just went with the gaming x trio 😅 the more I think of it, the more I’m liking the design. I think the grey tones will look nice with my grey and white set up. I’m hoping I don’t get the infamous coil whine issue lol we’ll see!
Yes sir. 850w is the minimum required for an MSI Suprim 4090, but they recommend a 1000w. You may need a dedicated 12v power cable, as some 850w PSUs don't have 4x8pin connectors. Check out my video here about a few options: th-cam.com/video/IpujnC1lGY4/w-d-xo.html
Absolutely! That's what those aftermarket cable are for. ATX 3.0 PSU come with their own 12v cable. I'm currently using one with a Corsair RM1000X PSU. What power supply do you have?
I completely agree! That's one of the reasons why I loved the EVGA design so much is that they boasted the model on the side of the card. I was just saying in my MSI 4070 Ti Gaming X Trio video that all the Gaming X Trio cards look the same.. 4070 Ti, 4080 & 4090.. which is great if you have a 4070 Ti, but if you have a 4090 and want to flex, it doesn't help.
Yeah, I wasn't super impressed with the RGB on this card. I am happy to see that they've come out with a classic version of this card - mimic'ing the 3000 series design: videocardz.com/newz/msi-launches-geforce-rtx-4090-suprim-x-classic Which do you prefer?
Thanks for the feedback. I plan on upgrading my studio in the next 3-6 months. Someone told me there was echo as well, so I’m going to try some foam. I’m not much of an audio guy, so I’m not sure if that will resolve the revert too. Please let me know if you have any recommendations.
@@JohnLCharetteI think the right aproach should be a combination of acoustic treatment and the right microphone. Don't know what you're using at the moment but condensers are so unforgiven with reverb and room tone. Dynamics, on the other hand, pick up much less of that. But whatever mic you use, acoustic panels on walls and cealing would help. Use carpets on the floor as well. For your audio tracks you can also use a pluggin like RX 10 De-reverb by Izotope in post to put a final touch. Good luck.
Personally, I'd lean toward the Suprim. It's a higher end card. The TUF 4090 that I tested had extreme coil whine. You can see the video here: th-cam.com/video/0t2Kxwf21Ls/w-d-xo.html
Both cards should perform very similar in both applications. I'm working on an Asus Strix 4090 review right now and I've tested Adobe Premiere Pro and Adobe Photoshop. A 4090 makes zero difference... but, when it comes to 3D rendering, it makes ALL of the difference. Anything 3D, you'll see huge performance gains. Most Adobe programs are CPU bound, not GPU.
I also recommend checking out this chart for coil whine information per model: www.hardwareluxx.de/community/threads/ada-lovelace-rtx-4xxx-coilwhine-fiep-rassel-thread.1324904/
@@JohnLCharette It's totally recommended. Why even bother with touching the case when you can grab the card by the fans' blades. You can even have a bit of fun by making the helicopter - hold one fan and spin the card in mid air.
Even better, plug the card into a small ITX board, give it 12v power - then let it rip on your finger! I feel a whole new line of TH-cam Shorts happening..
I have purchase two 4090 Surpim X cards at BestBuy.ca for retail. I assume BestBuy.com has similar stock to the Canadian site. Use the techniques in my video here to get one: th-cam.com/video/EZw7Oygk4WE/w-d-xo.html Let me know if you end up snagging one.
BestBuy.ca - they seem to get a shipment of 4090 stock once a month or so. I assume BestBuy.com is similar. Use the techniques in my video here to get one: th-cam.com/video/EZw7Oygk4WE/w-d-xo.html
@@JohnLCharette final clocks I got are: Core clock: +280 Memory: +1900 Scores: Port royal 1440p extreme: 27.6k Speed way: 10.8k Time spy: 27.4k This is what I have that runs stable in the 3D bench marking tests such as time spy, port royal, speed way, heaven, super position. Highest temp my card got was 60c and wattage. Hung around in the mid 400s and sometime touches 515. Decent numbers, I’ve never really overclocked until I got my 4090 set up yesterday. I’m running a b550 ASUS gamming f-gaming mobo, g.skill 3600mhz trident neo z ram ( currently stuck at 2133mhz as I can’t figure out how to enable the full performance of the damn thing )
@Matthew, no it doesn't matter if you benchmark using the Port Royal 1440p version - just know that most Port Royal scores are the standard resolution (probably 1080p). I don't have a 4K monitor either and rock 1440p. It's my favourite in ultrawide.
Have you used the 600w bios? Is it really that much better performance? I obviously like the idea of getting all the performance I can, but if it's only 2% or 3% it's not worth the Hassel for me.
Strange, i can never get my 4090 Suprim X to go above ~480W. Not sure how 520W is possible. MSI afterburner allows me to slide power to 108% (Above the default 100%)
I originally had this card connected to a Lian Li SFX 850w power supply. That power supply comes with a 2x 8pin connector to 12 pin - that's the white cable I used to power it on at first. It seems like that cable only supports up to 300w of power and will not power on any 4090 (they require at least 3x 8pin connectors). I then connected my Corsair RM1000X and it worked great. Neither of them have a native 12 pin connector though. From what I've seen, it's still pretty rare and expensive to find a true ATX 3.0 power supply with 12 + 4 pin from the power supply.
@@JohnLCharette If it's any help at all I just took delivery Saturday of my Corsair 12pin to 2x 8pin cable adapter connected to my Corsair RM1000X and it does scale true to 600w usage. Think I paid around 27$ for the Corsair cable shipping and all, got it from BestBuy since everywhere else was out of stock.
You're welcome. You can install two 4000 series graphics cards but can't connect them. NVIDIA has since removed the ability to use NV-Link in this series of cards. I'm curious, what do you need two 4090s for?
@Scott, thanks for the comment. The 850w Lian Li PSU didn't have enough connectors and I had to connect it to my Corsair RM1000x PSU. That being said, on MSI's website, it recommends a 1000w, but also says the minimum is 850w for this card.
All depends on your load and if it's a good quality PSU or not. I was running a Rog Strix 4090 OC with a 5800x3d which is 105w TDP, 6 120w rans, 360mm AIO, 2 M.2 drives, 2 SSD's, with about 150w of headroom still left on a EVGA 850 G6 with no problems at all. I even had the Strix 4090 overclocked. Even with a power spike that PSU is capable of handling my components with no problems. Protections for an EVGA Supernova G6 include OVP (Over Voltage Protection), UVP (Under Voltage Protection), OCP (Over Current Protection), Dual OPP (Over Power Protection), SCP (Short Circuit Protection), and OTP (Over Temperature Protection).Operating at peak efficiency, instead of maximum capable load is the objective with PSU over sizing. You can have a look at individual PSU efficiency vs load %, usually peak at 50~60% load. You can push to 100%, there is some efficiency loss but not as significant as in crippling your performance, though at this point your component is generating more heat than usual which is killing your unit faster.
@Phan, horrible timing... I just sold both TUF 4090 and my EVGA 3090 Ti this weekend. When I find another 4090, I'll do some tests. I have a Strix 4080 and 4080 FE that I can test though. Not sure if you're looking in the 4080 market. Meanwhile, you can check out my 3090 Ti video I did with Blender benchmarks here: th-cam.com/video/6SD3xN0wLsw/w-d-xo.html
@RegLoiD, the TUF 4090 I was using had quite a bit of coil whine. I actually buy these cards to review them and then resell them. So my plan was always to resell the card once I had finished reviewing it. It was a very solid card though. I'll be posting me review about it shortly. Are you thinking about getting one?
forgive naivety here, still learning. can someone PLEASE help me understand below or refer me to a resource? -why do some 4090 24g cards have a "gaming" distinction? -do all 4090 24g cards perform the same? aside from thermal management, materials, and form factor, is there anything else? for example: nvidia has msi 4090 suprim x 24g in stock but not their branded card. asked customer service for clarification, "you'll need to reach out to msi as i cannot speak on their products." reached out to msi and they were equally unhelpful. bestbuy and microcenter didn't know either. tried reddit but feels like i'm chatting with children (i.e. condescending responses).
@joni, thanks for reaching out. I've had similar issues with Reddit. I'll do my best to answer your questions. Why do some cards have 'gaming'? That's just the marketing language used by MSI. Their 'Gaming Trio X' line is their mid-tier GPU, similar to an Asus TUF. MSI's highest-end card is their Suprim X, and Asus has their Strix ROG. Yes, all 4090s perform pretty much the same. They all use the same GPU created by NVIDIA, but the AIB (Add-in Board) partners such as MSI, Asus, Zotac, Gigabyte use their own techniques for exactly what you said - thermal management, materials, and form factor. Some cards are pre-overclocked by a bit. Does that mean they'll be slightly faster out of the box - possibly. I've reviewed four 4090s now and their performance all range from 1-5% of each other. Not really noticeable. It comes down to size, lighting, cooling methods and brand love. No matter which 4090 you choose, you'll get an impressive card. I recommend grabbing any 4090 you can find, as they are hard to find. If you don't like it or find another, you shouldn't have a problem re-selling it. Happy 4090 hunting! If you want help finding one, check out my tips and trick video that still works: th-cam.com/video/EZw7Oygk4WE/w-d-xo.html
@@JohnLCharette appreciate your prompt response and insight. 1st build for video editing and its been one rabbit hole after another. thank you! -colton
I find it very interesting the inconsistencies in overclocking ability with these cards. Your card is much better than mine, even at 1200mhz on the VRAM. Mine only went up +1000mhz. Thanks for the info. The more details like this we gather, the better people can make a decision on getting one.
@Jacob - firstly, I'm not an electrical engineer but this is how I understand it. When the GPU requests power, in the case of this Suprim, up to 520w of power at full draw but other 4090s can draw up to 600w. When the GPU requests power from your power supply, it will use all available power connectors. Each PCI Express 8-pin connector is rated for approximately 150w. Hence, the 4x150w = 600w. If you use 3x150w cables, the cables are only rated to handle up to 450w of power. If your card requests the full 520w or 600w, it could melt the cables or catch fire. As I mentioned in the video, it will work, but it is NOT recommended. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching.
The adapter doesn't determine the amount of power that can be used. It's simply the route it takes. It's the card that requests power. If you use 3 cables, you'll have 450w + 75w from the board that the GPU can draw safely (525w). That's probably why MSI limited their 4090 Suprim card to 520w. BUT, if you're using a 4090 FE, which can draw to up 600W, you'll need the 4th cable to be safe. Technically, 3 cables + 75w from the board, could probably handle 600w, which is only an additional 25w per cable over spec, but it isn't recommended.
Hi sebna, I did not experience any coil whine on the card I was testing. I've looked through comments from my viewers and haven't found anyone complaining specifically about this card. Expect that there will be small amounts of coil whine on any 4080/4090 but I've heard really bad coil whine on the Asus TUF and MSI Gaming X Trio 4090s. I hope this helps!
@William, I'm not 100% sure. If it's like other adapters, it's limited to 150w per 8pin connector - in which, the 3090 Ti comes with 3x8pin connectors. I've confirmed that you can use 4090s with only 3x8pin connectors with little performance loss. I'm recommending everyone buy a dedicated 12v power supply cable vs using any of the adapters. Check out my video here for a couple options: th-cam.com/video/IpujnC1lGY4/w-d-xo.html
@@JohnLCharette Is the next step removing the plastic that’s sticked on the GPU itself with a razor too? PS: What’s your opinion on upgrading from a RTX3080Ti to a 4090 beside GDDR6X and 24GB VRAM?
3080 Ti to a 4090 is a huge jump. Most people don't jump into the x090 series unless they need that extra horse power for 4K gaming or VRAM for graphics/video editing. What do you use your computer for and at what resolution?
@@JohnLCharette Mixed use. From 4K Gaming to editing 4K ProRes content. And casually browsing the web, watching YT. And beside that running a JavaScript application for a WhatsApp-bot 😛 CPU is a Ryzen 9 5950X, 64GB ram, and obviously some M.2 SSD’s 😃 I prefer to save up extra money to buy high-end hardware and be future proof for 6 years rather than upgrading each 3 years like I did with the x80ti series. Started with a GTX 970, then 980, then 2x980 SLI (Classic days), 1080ti, 2080ti, 3080ti. Never was able to save up to the x090’s versions. I’ll definitely make sure the 4090 will run GTA V Online on 4K properly. My 3080Ti barely hits 80fps in GTA on Ultra except Anti-Alliansing and Grass. GTA V really isn’t optimised for the 3000 series, but people claim the 4000 series performs well with GTA. Also curious to Battlefield with Raytracing and having a acceptable FPS haha. I’m not really planning on OC’ing the 90 a lot.
Thanks for the full breakdown! Yeah, I would try picking up a used 4090 and see how well it works. You may start to get CPU limited on games, considering that's more of a workstation CPU. It's perfect for 4K ProRes editing though. It'll really depend on the game, if the 4090 will make a big difference. That's why I recommend a used one, or one with a return policy. I'd hate for you to spend the extra cash and not get the performance you are looking for. We need a GPU rental program ;)
No, no coil whine at all with this card. I have heard a lot of people complain about it but I was lucky. Are you considering one or do you already have one?
@@JohnLCharette I got her in! It's a beast! Does have some coil whine though under load.. But I think I'll stick with it. Did you test yours on an open bench?
I didn’t have any on the card I testing, but I also don’t keep them very long. From my experience, if it has coil whine, you hear it as soon as the card is under load. Are you experiencing some?
@@JohnLCharette it’s strange because I got my card last week and started playing my first game yesterday with no coil whine then today I got a lot of coil whine. I contacted my reseller and will get a new card but I’m afraid that most 4090 cards will have coil whine to a certain degree.
Interesting. I had a similar experience with the 4080 Eagle OC I've been using. When I first tested it, no coil whine, but now I can hear a slight buzzing. It isn't bad, but it's there. I'm not sure if I just didn't catch it before or if something changed. I'm glad you are able to get a replacement card.
Haha, yeah.. the 4080/4090s are HUGE. If you'd looking for a tiny, but amazing card. Check out my video about the Zotac 4070 Ti OC. th-cam.com/video/Sgt_DNdAtfA/w-d-xo.html
@@JohnLCharette The plate is extremely hot, the fans make a lot of noise, impossible to play a very heavy game and in 4k. I changed the thermopad as in your video and it dropped 2 degrees. it sits at 80 to 85 degrees with the cabinet open.
Yikes. That sucks. That honestly sounds like an issue with your card. I’d get rid of it and get yourself something new. The 4080/4090 run way cooler than the 3000 series because of their larger heat sink size.
I managed to watch this powerlifter video up to the end, man you're overacting, you know... Really hard to watch because I can't beleive that someone can't handle 2 kilos not being a 6 yo kid... I have 3080 Supreme X and I don't beleive this one is like 5 times heavier than mine. Those who will throw some sh1t on me - just so you know this IS a part of a content this guy is creating, soooo... yeah... go ahead and throw some
Haha, I literally had to re-watch this video to figure out what you were talking about. Yeah, I grunt.. I make some noises and when comparing it to the other GPUs I've reviewed, it's one of the heaviest. I don't think anyone can deny that the 4090 series cards are HUGE and heavy. Sorry if my grunting wasn't your cup of tea. Appreciate the view and comment. Have a good one!
@@JohnLCharette no hard feelings man, the video is nice and informative, it's the first video I watched on your channel, great picture, cool backstage, nice sound. It's nice that you can get such a pricy parts for the review, thanks for the detailed review!
You must have some incredibly high standards.. that video was created 6 months ago and I've taken some steps to improve my audio quality. Let me know if my newer content is better. If not, I'm open to suggestions. You sound like you must know audio very well and can help.
Thank you very much for your answer, I have 55 degrees Celsius at rest, sometimes even 60, I am very worried that this is a significant deviation from the norm in mode without heavy load. Msi 4090 rtx suprim x
@@JohnLCharette I have a semi-open Cougar case (second generation), the video card is brand new, it costs 4 coolers for cooling and three on the video card. Currently via Aida 64 GPU hot spot 66 degrees and GPU memory 66 degrees, is this normal?
I wouldn't worry about the GPU hot spot. It's very common for the hot spot to be +10C more than the GPU Temp itself. You want to watch GPU Temperature and GPU Memory Junction Temperature.
Hey John. I just noticed today a sale on the MSI Suprim X at Canada Computers. It's now only 50 dollars more than a Gigabyte Gaming OC and the same price as the Zotac Amp Extreme Airo. After all of these card reviews do you think this may be the card to get especially on sale?
Good morning John! Wow, you are right. $200 coupon off the Suprim X Liquid, $100 off the Suprim X, and there are a few open-box solutions. It's a gamble with open boxes because they were probably returned due to coil whine. Yeah, if you were on the fence, this makes the Suprim way more affordable than the Strix.
Excellent and timely video! My 4090 Suprim X was delivered today. Still can't believe I spent so much on a GPU. LOL! This thing is beast mode incarnate. Gaming aside, I'm quite certain it would be useful as a bludgeoning weapon should my aluminum bat be out of reach during a home invasion. New subscriber!
Hahah, a bludgeoning weapon. So good. Thanks for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
Spoke with MSI they said they will release a 600 Watt BIOS in the future
@Jacki, AMAZING! I figured they'd do that based on community requests. Appreciate the information.
Doesn't the Suprim Liquid X have 600w? Seems like you could just flash that BIOS.
Absolutely. That’s what we are hoping for.
@@jjlw2378 You can but MSI said that it's safer to wait for their BIOS so you don't come over any issues
@@jjlw2378 I have a liquid x. Bios is 530W limited
I managed to do this on my MSI 4090 Suprim X
2775 Mhz - curved
+1500 to mem
80% PL
950mV
stable on timespy and port royal. No coil whine whatsoever, and temps at 60s
That's amazing! Good work. This is the 2nd comment I've seen of someone getting really great overclock values.
@nagzz06 whats your PSU? I have a corsair 850rmx gold and one of the 4 ports are daisy chained. So im a little hesitant on touching anything over the limits but interested in hearing yours!
Idle power consumption? Monitors setup? Please
Never seen someone struggle so hard to unbox a gpu in my life 😂
Dude.. the struggle was real 😳 Sometimes I wonder if vendors are playing tricks on me.
This review is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks
Awww. Thank you. Glad it was helpful!
i bought MSI 4090 Suprim LX. I managed to get 3.15Ghz coreclock + 1500Mhz VRAM stable. The benchmark I got on timespy score was 29000 default and 39000 OC. Core temp was about 68C + 530Watts .
Wow, that's incredible! I definitely experienced way better overclocking potential with the LX version of the card, but it didn't jump that much! Mine went 32000 default to 33500 OC. Well done. What case are you using? Where did you mount the rad?
@@JohnLCharette Fractal design Meshify S2 RGB. I mounted the GPU rad (double layer fans) at the front and the CPU 360 AIO rad on top.
Dude looks like Joe Woes older brother lmaoooo
I'm upgrading from my good old Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 G1 Gaming to this card. I hope it will serve just as well.
That's a HUGE jump in technology. I think you'll be very pleased ;)
Excellent video! Your review has solidified my decision to buy this GPU. I’ve been on the fence about which model i wanted to buy. New sub!
Amazing! So glad I could help. It's an incredible card. What case are you pairing it with?
I am a huge fan of MSI Suprim design. It was great for 30- series card and still is best looking design. This easly beats Asus Strix design. I have MSI RTX 3070 Ti Suprim X. I still think that MSI dragon logo is better than this shape on backplate.
I'm with you! I prefer MSI's design this generation over the boxy Strix design. I'm just about to crack open an MSI 4090 Gaming X Trio - so stay tuned for that review soon!
The white Asus Strix definitely looks way better than the MSI Suprim X.
@@ZackSNetwork no
I like the 3000 series Strix more than the 4000 series, myself.
Love the music man
Great review John, I am a little late to the RTX 4090 party but have recently decided to treat myself to one of these cards.
I have been thinking of purchasing either the MSI Gaming X one, Suprim X or the ASUS TUF. I hear those three are very good and quiet. My question here would be, which of these would you recommend for someone who values noise above else? I don't mind coil whine so much as it's one of those lottery things but when it comes to fan noise I would like the least annoying one. I won't consider the MSI Liquid X as I am planning on reselling once the 5090 comes out in the future.
Also, I hear the Gaming X Trio lacks a vapor chamber, would this make any difference?
Welcome to the 4090 party! ;) Regarding noise, all three cards are similarly designed with three axial fans. Yes, you're right, the Suprim has a vapor chamber which isn't tied directly to noise.. but consider, if the vapor chamber helps reduce thermals, than the fans don't need to spin as hard. So, it would probably be number one, with the TUF card coming 2nd. It's a thick boy card with a huge heatsink, so it'll also be cooler than the Gaming X Trio.
The best solution for ultra quiet is always water cooled.. but that's a whole different beast. Consider that the TUF is the more popular card to watercool, so if you ever wanted to go that way, there are lots of compatible waterblocks. Hope this helps!
@@JohnLCharette Thanks so much for your input John, it helped me make a decision. I have ordered the MSI 4090 Suprim X as it was reduced on a daily deal. The Gaming X Trio was too close price wise to the Suprim X so I just ended up choosing the Suprim X. I cannot wait to set it up when it arrives.
The only downside to this is both my wife and wallet don't seem too happy with me 🙂Though I am sure my wife will come round when she gets to play her Sims games...
She’ll love it! I have also got in trouble from my wife by forgetting to have my requisition form signed ;)
I'm considering buying an msi 4090 suprim x and have a like new msi suprim x 3090ti that i will sell!!! Thanks for the info!
I have a Suprim X 4090 as well but my Phanteks AMP 1000 came with a dedicated cable to the PSU. 2 8 pin to 12vhpwr which keeps things nice and clean looking in my case. I was also having problems with the stupid Nvidia 4 pin adapter hitting my side glass panel making it difficult to close the panel without hitting the glass.
That's a beautiful power supply! And yes, that's awesome that it comes with a 2x8pin 12vhpwr cable. I think everyone needs one and the adapter should become obsolete. What case are you using that you ran into an issue with the adaptor?
OC any 4090 is very hit and miss. Is it worth the electric cost? I don't think it is because the games that improve from the OC are very different. Some get 3/5 fps, and some have done 10/15+.
In my bench runs, the Suprim X was slightly faster than the Strix OC out of the box, but I would say if you were to push the cards, the Strix would be the winner, but again, at what cost for what gains.
I agree. I'm in the mindset of buying something that's fast enough out of the box. I'm not interested in OC'ing for a 1-5% gain. I'm also not performance focused. I'd rather have a good looking, stable card that's a bit slower than something that crashes in the middle of my game.
@@JohnLCharette Cards I tried.
Tuf OC, built like a brick, plain, quiet, 2 hdmi, noticeable coil whine.
Strix OC, great build, great cooler, ok lighting, quiet, 2 HDMI, noticeable coil whine.
Zotac Extreme, odd-looking but cool, amazing lighting, terrible fans. Ok amounts of coil whine.
Gigabyte Gaming OC, plain, great vrm temps, can OC a lot, average fans....mine set on fire at stock. Think a power phase blew. ok amounts of coil whine.
Suprim X, great looks, quiet, best benchmarks by about 3/4% out of the box, noticeable coil whine.
Suprim X also seem to have better lower av fps so it felt a little smoother than the other 4090s, but its coil whine is as bad as the Strix OC.
@MrMr Gaming, it sounds like we've reviewed quite a few of the same cards. Sub'd your channel - keep at it! Next up for me is a MSI 4090 Gaming X Trio and a Zotac 4070 Ti OC Trinity. Meanwhile, I'm working on a full custom liquid cooling build, which I've only helped on one build before. Do you have any experience with water cooling?
@JohnLCharette HI, and likewise to yours.
Next up is the Asus Loki PSU which is due in a week. I'm going to see if it reduces coil whine on these cards.
Water cooling is a no-go for me due to stripping my PC way to often.
Oh, and that new case by Phanteks, the NV7, is very tempting next month.
Yeah, the wattage limit bugs me on mine. Why they would make it lower than the FE boggles the mind. Still, I'm sure I'll never notice it. I'll mildly OC the card and be happy... but that silly limit will always be in the back of my mind.
My theory is that 3x 8pin connectors + 75w from the board adds up to 525w. That means people with only 3x 8pin connectors on their power supply can still use the full force of the card. You'd want to use 4x 8pin connectors for the full 600w.
man looking like he lifting a pair of 30 kg dumbbells lol
Do you even lift?!?
I can’t decide between this card or the Zotac amp extreme.. they both look so nice
Ohhh, interesting choice. I haven't had a chance to try the Zotac AMP, but I've only heard great things. The Suprim is #1 when it comes to power phases, if overclocking is important to you. I like the Zotac AMP design a lot more though, personally. I'd go AMP ;)
@@JohnLCharette Hey! Thanks for responding. I couldn’t decide between the two so I just went with the gaming x trio 😅 the more I think of it, the more I’m liking the design. I think the grey tones will look nice with my grey and white set up.
I’m hoping I don’t get the infamous coil whine issue lol we’ll see!
Wait so a 850 PSU was able to work ??
Yes sir. 850w is the minimum required for an MSI Suprim 4090, but they recommend a 1000w. You may need a dedicated 12v power cable, as some 850w PSUs don't have 4x8pin connectors. Check out my video here about a few options: th-cam.com/video/IpujnC1lGY4/w-d-xo.html
@@JohnLCharette Oh so is it possible to use a 12VHPWR cable to a non-atx 3.0 850w PSU? Thank you in advance!
Absolutely! That's what those aftermarket cable are for. ATX 3.0 PSU come with their own 12v cable. I'm currently using one with a Corsair RM1000X PSU. What power supply do you have?
It's a shame they didn't add 4090 number anywhere. There is no way to tell which RTX model is it.
I completely agree! That's one of the reasons why I loved the EVGA design so much is that they boasted the model on the side of the card. I was just saying in my MSI 4070 Ti Gaming X Trio video that all the Gaming X Trio cards look the same.. 4070 Ti, 4080 & 4090.. which is great if you have a 4070 Ti, but if you have a 4090 and want to flex, it doesn't help.
Is it just me or ks the rgb lighting kindof dim? My 3080 was much brighter than my 4080 and i think the last gen suprim cards had brighter lighting?
Yeah, I wasn't super impressed with the RGB on this card. I am happy to see that they've come out with a classic version of this card - mimic'ing the 3000 series design: videocardz.com/newz/msi-launches-geforce-rtx-4090-suprim-x-classic Which do you prefer?
You should work your Audio. Reverb is terrible. Anyway thanks for the review.
Thanks for the feedback. I plan on upgrading my studio in the next 3-6 months. Someone told me there was echo as well, so I’m going to try some foam. I’m not much of an audio guy, so I’m not sure if that will resolve the revert too. Please let me know if you have any recommendations.
@@JohnLCharetteI think the right aproach should be a combination of acoustic treatment and the right microphone. Don't know what you're using at the moment but condensers are so unforgiven with reverb and room tone. Dynamics, on the other hand, pick up much less of that. But whatever mic you use, acoustic panels on walls and cealing would help. Use carpets on the floor as well. For your audio tracks you can also use a pluggin like RX 10 De-reverb by Izotope in post to put a final touch. Good luck.
Thank you so much. Really appreciate pointing me in the right direction. All the best.
I'm kinda split between the asus tuf oc 4090 and the msi suprim x 4090. Which one has better vram and less coil whine?
Personally, I'd lean toward the Suprim. It's a higher end card. The TUF 4090 that I tested had extreme coil whine. You can see the video here: th-cam.com/video/0t2Kxwf21Ls/w-d-xo.html
@@JohnLCharette but is it better suited for things like adobe programs and 3d rendering?
Both cards should perform very similar in both applications. I'm working on an Asus Strix 4090 review right now and I've tested Adobe Premiere Pro and Adobe Photoshop. A 4090 makes zero difference... but, when it comes to 3D rendering, it makes ALL of the difference. Anything 3D, you'll see huge performance gains. Most Adobe programs are CPU bound, not GPU.
I also recommend checking out this chart for coil whine information per model: www.hardwareluxx.de/community/threads/ada-lovelace-rtx-4xxx-coilwhine-fiep-rassel-thread.1324904/
A Detailed Comparison: MSI GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM X 24G Vs ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition 24GB GDDR6X - GCC Gamers
Don't hold the card by the fans.
You mean that isn't the recommend way to hold a GPU?! ;)
@@JohnLCharette It's totally recommended. Why even bother with touching the case when you can grab the card by the fans' blades. You can even have a bit of fun by making the helicopter - hold one fan and spin the card in mid air.
Even better, plug the card into a small ITX board, give it 12v power - then let it rip on your finger! I feel a whole new line of TH-cam Shorts happening..
@@JohnLCharette Yeah, let's turn this into a #challenge.
Nice bro but where to buy with original price msi rtx suprim x 24gb
I have purchase two 4090 Surpim X cards at BestBuy.ca for retail. I assume BestBuy.com has similar stock to the Canadian site. Use the techniques in my video here to get one: th-cam.com/video/EZw7Oygk4WE/w-d-xo.html Let me know if you end up snagging one.
Where did you buy from? I cant find it in stock from authorized dealers.
BestBuy.ca - they seem to get a shipment of 4090 stock once a month or so. I assume BestBuy.com is similar. Use the techniques in my video here to get one: th-cam.com/video/EZw7Oygk4WE/w-d-xo.html
Current +1700 vram and +265 core clock. Port Royal ram smooth so gonna test more tonight
Oh wow! It sounds like you won the silicon lottery. That's amazing. Let me know how the rest of your testing goes.
@@JohnLCharette does it matter that I bench mark it at 1440p since I don’t have a 4k monitor to test in 4k?
@@JohnLCharette final clocks I got are:
Core clock: +280
Memory: +1900
Scores:
Port royal 1440p extreme: 27.6k
Speed way: 10.8k
Time spy: 27.4k
This is what I have that runs stable in the 3D bench marking tests such as time spy, port royal, speed way, heaven, super position. Highest temp my card got was 60c and wattage. Hung around in the mid 400s and sometime touches 515. Decent numbers, I’ve never really overclocked until I got my 4090 set up yesterday. I’m running a b550 ASUS gamming f-gaming mobo, g.skill 3600mhz trident neo z ram ( currently stuck at 2133mhz as I can’t figure out how to enable the full performance of the damn thing )
@Matthew, no it doesn't matter if you benchmark using the Port Royal 1440p version - just know that most Port Royal scores are the standard resolution (probably 1080p). I don't have a 4K monitor either and rock 1440p. It's my favourite in ultrawide.
@Matthew oh wow! Your Suprim X is overclocking WAYY better than mine. That's incredible. Good for you. You must be pretty happy.
Nice build maybe use some cable combs for the 24 pin cable im a neat freak wid my builds haha
Thanks for the feedback! I agree, it could be much cleaner. Can you recommend a good cable comb?
This would've been the perfect looking card if the heat pipes wasn't visible
Here is mine 4K gaming bench results with slightly OC`d 4090 suprim x:
th-cam.com/video/zvswENEgOoI/w-d-xo.html
Does it now support 600w?
Yes, but it's beta and unsupported, so use at your own risk: sites.google.com/view/msi-bios-update?pli=1
@@JohnLCharette Thanks!
Have you used the 600w bios? Is it really that much better performance? I obviously like the idea of getting all the performance I can, but if it's only 2% or 3% it's not worth the Hassel for me.
@Jacob I haven't. Everything I read said it hardly does anything, so I didn't want to risk it.
Strange, i can never get my 4090 Suprim X to go above ~480W. Not sure how 520W is possible. MSI afterburner allows me to slide power to 108% (Above the default 100%)
Interesting. I wish I still had this card to do some more tests for you. I wonder if MSI changed their VBIOS and lowered the power output a bit.
what PSU are you using and does it have the native 12 pin?
I originally had this card connected to a Lian Li SFX 850w power supply. That power supply comes with a 2x 8pin connector to 12 pin - that's the white cable I used to power it on at first. It seems like that cable only supports up to 300w of power and will not power on any 4090 (they require at least 3x 8pin connectors). I then connected my Corsair RM1000X and it worked great. Neither of them have a native 12 pin connector though. From what I've seen, it's still pretty rare and expensive to find a true ATX 3.0 power supply with 12 + 4 pin from the power supply.
@@JohnLCharette If it's any help at all I just took delivery Saturday of my Corsair 12pin to 2x 8pin cable adapter connected to my Corsair RM1000X and it does scale true to 600w usage. Think I paid around 27$ for the Corsair cable shipping and all, got it from BestBuy since everywhere else was out of stock.
Amazing! Thanks for confirming. I think I will need to purchase one of those as well.
Thank you for the video.. i am wondering if a can connect a second one (suprim x) to it??
You're welcome. You can install two 4000 series graphics cards but can't connect them. NVIDIA has since removed the ability to use NV-Link in this series of cards. I'm curious, what do you need two 4090s for?
@JohnnyActionTech thank you very much for your reply. For 3ds max render purpose. I only want to make sure I can add another one.. sure not now
fyi your underpowered, nvidia states at least 1k watt psu and thats without any liquid radiators considered
@Scott, thanks for the comment. The 850w Lian Li PSU didn't have enough connectors and I had to connect it to my Corsair RM1000x PSU. That being said, on MSI's website, it recommends a 1000w, but also says the minimum is 850w for this card.
All depends on your load and if it's a good quality PSU or not. I was running a Rog Strix 4090 OC with a 5800x3d which is 105w TDP, 6 120w rans, 360mm AIO, 2 M.2 drives, 2 SSD's, with about 150w of headroom still left on a EVGA 850 G6 with no problems at all. I even had the Strix 4090 overclocked. Even with a power spike that PSU is capable of handling my components with no problems. Protections for an EVGA Supernova G6 include OVP (Over Voltage Protection), UVP (Under Voltage Protection), OCP (Over Current Protection), Dual OPP (Over Power Protection), SCP (Short Circuit Protection), and OTP (Over Temperature Protection).Operating at peak efficiency, instead of maximum capable load is the objective with PSU over sizing. You can have a look at individual PSU efficiency vs load %, usually peak at 50~60% load. You can push to 100%, there is some efficiency loss but not as significant as in crippling your performance, though at this point your component is generating more heat than usual which is killing your unit faster.
Asus 3080 ti oc 12gb are going for 1800+ dollars. So it come down to if you’re willing pay the extra 400..
for 400 extra youd be stupid not to pay the extra for 4090 over 3080 ti. its over 2x faster.
Im a 3d animator. Im trying to decide between 4090 and 2nd hand galax 3090ti. Can u please use blender benchmark to compare two?
@Phan, horrible timing... I just sold both TUF 4090 and my EVGA 3090 Ti this weekend. When I find another 4090, I'll do some tests. I have a Strix 4080 and 4080 FE that I can test though. Not sure if you're looking in the 4080 market. Meanwhile, you can check out my 3090 Ti video I did with Blender benchmarks here: th-cam.com/video/6SD3xN0wLsw/w-d-xo.html
@RegLoiD, the TUF 4090 I was using had quite a bit of coil whine. I actually buy these cards to review them and then resell them. So my plan was always to resell the card once I had finished reviewing it. It was a very solid card though. I'll be posting me review about it shortly. Are you thinking about getting one?
Stay tuned! I just finished recording my TUF OC 4090 review this morning.
Go for 4090
@@MrBratkenSolov yup i did buy suprim x 4090. Great decision
forgive naivety here, still learning. can someone PLEASE help me understand below or refer me to a resource?
-why do some 4090 24g cards have a "gaming" distinction?
-do all 4090 24g cards perform the same? aside from thermal management, materials, and form factor, is there anything else?
for example:
nvidia has msi 4090 suprim x 24g in stock but not their branded card. asked customer service for clarification, "you'll need to reach out to msi as i cannot speak on their products." reached out to msi and they were equally unhelpful. bestbuy and microcenter didn't know either.
tried reddit but feels like i'm chatting with children (i.e. condescending responses).
@joni, thanks for reaching out. I've had similar issues with Reddit. I'll do my best to answer your questions.
Why do some cards have 'gaming'? That's just the marketing language used by MSI. Their 'Gaming Trio X' line is their mid-tier GPU, similar to an Asus TUF. MSI's highest-end card is their Suprim X, and Asus has their Strix ROG.
Yes, all 4090s perform pretty much the same. They all use the same GPU created by NVIDIA, but the AIB (Add-in Board) partners such as MSI, Asus, Zotac, Gigabyte use their own techniques for exactly what you said - thermal management, materials, and form factor. Some cards are pre-overclocked by a bit. Does that mean they'll be slightly faster out of the box - possibly. I've reviewed four 4090s now and their performance all range from 1-5% of each other. Not really noticeable. It comes down to size, lighting, cooling methods and brand love.
No matter which 4090 you choose, you'll get an impressive card. I recommend grabbing any 4090 you can find, as they are hard to find. If you don't like it or find another, you shouldn't have a problem re-selling it. Happy 4090 hunting! If you want help finding one, check out my tips and trick video that still works: th-cam.com/video/EZw7Oygk4WE/w-d-xo.html
@@JohnLCharette appreciate your prompt response and insight.
1st build for video editing and its been one rabbit hole after another.
thank you!
-colton
My Core can do 3,090MHz and settles on 3,075Mhz (+225). Ram can only do +1200Mhz.
I find it very interesting the inconsistencies in overclocking ability with these cards. Your card is much better than mine, even at 1200mhz on the VRAM. Mine only went up +1000mhz. Thanks for the info. The more details like this we gather, the better people can make a decision on getting one.
Hi, could you elaborate on why its bad to run the 4090 on 3 cables instead of 4?
@Jacob - firstly, I'm not an electrical engineer but this is how I understand it. When the GPU requests power, in the case of this Suprim, up to 520w of power at full draw but other 4090s can draw up to 600w. When the GPU requests power from your power supply, it will use all available power connectors. Each PCI Express 8-pin connector is rated for approximately 150w. Hence, the 4x150w = 600w. If you use 3x150w cables, the cables are only rated to handle up to 450w of power. If your card requests the full 520w or 600w, it could melt the cables or catch fire. As I mentioned in the video, it will work, but it is NOT recommended. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching.
@@JohnLCharette You are wrong. It is fine to use only 3/4 cables. then the adapter will only provide up to 450w
The adapter doesn't determine the amount of power that can be used. It's simply the route it takes. It's the card that requests power. If you use 3 cables, you'll have 450w + 75w from the board that the GPU can draw safely (525w). That's probably why MSI limited their 4090 Suprim card to 520w. BUT, if you're using a 4090 FE, which can draw to up 600W, you'll need the 4th cable to be safe. Technically, 3 cables + 75w from the board, could probably handle 600w, which is only an additional 25w per cable over spec, but it isn't recommended.
@@JohnLCharette Please do some research.. The adapter wont let the card pull more than 450w through it if there is 3 cables in it
@g0d, you could be right. Next time I have a 4090 in my studio, I'll try it out and comment back. I'm testing a bunch of 4080s right now.
I have it!
What’s your experience been like so far? What card are you upgrading from?
@@JohnLCharette It arrived around 30 minutes before I saw this!
Any coil whine for you or the readers who own it? Please report.
Hi sebna, I did not experience any coil whine on the card I was testing. I've looked through comments from my viewers and haven't found anyone complaining specifically about this card. Expect that there will be small amounts of coil whine on any 4080/4090 but I've heard really bad coil whine on the Asus TUF and MSI Gaming X Trio 4090s. I hope this helps!
@@JohnLCharette It does indeed. Thank you for getting back to me.
the cable for the evga 3090ti work with this card?
@William, I'm not 100% sure. If it's like other adapters, it's limited to 150w per 8pin connector - in which, the 3090 Ti comes with 3x8pin connectors. I've confirmed that you can use 4090s with only 3x8pin connectors with little performance loss. I'm recommending everyone buy a dedicated 12v power supply cable vs using any of the adapters. Check out my video here for a couple options: th-cam.com/video/IpujnC1lGY4/w-d-xo.html
No way that dude just opened the sealing of the box with a razor.
Always!
@@JohnLCharette Is the next step removing the plastic that’s sticked on the GPU itself with a razor too?
PS: What’s your opinion on upgrading from a RTX3080Ti to a 4090 beside GDDR6X and 24GB VRAM?
3080 Ti to a 4090 is a huge jump. Most people don't jump into the x090 series unless they need that extra horse power for 4K gaming or VRAM for graphics/video editing. What do you use your computer for and at what resolution?
@@JohnLCharette Mixed use. From 4K Gaming to editing 4K ProRes content. And casually browsing the web, watching YT. And beside that running a JavaScript application for a WhatsApp-bot 😛
CPU is a Ryzen 9 5950X, 64GB ram, and obviously some M.2 SSD’s 😃
I prefer to save up extra money to buy high-end hardware and be future proof for 6 years rather than upgrading each 3 years like I did with the x80ti series.
Started with a GTX 970, then 980, then 2x980 SLI (Classic days), 1080ti, 2080ti, 3080ti.
Never was able to save up to the x090’s versions.
I’ll definitely make sure the 4090 will run GTA V Online on 4K properly.
My 3080Ti barely hits 80fps in GTA on Ultra except Anti-Alliansing and Grass.
GTA V really isn’t optimised for the 3000 series, but people claim the 4000 series performs well with GTA.
Also curious to Battlefield with Raytracing and having a acceptable FPS haha.
I’m not really planning on OC’ing the 90 a lot.
Thanks for the full breakdown! Yeah, I would try picking up a used 4090 and see how well it works. You may start to get CPU limited on games, considering that's more of a workstation CPU. It's perfect for 4K ProRes editing though. It'll really depend on the game, if the 4090 will make a big difference. That's why I recommend a used one, or one with a return policy. I'd hate for you to spend the extra cash and not get the performance you are looking for. We need a GPU rental program ;)
Did you experience any coil whine?
No, no coil whine at all with this card. I have heard a lot of people complain about it but I was lucky. Are you considering one or do you already have one?
@@JohnLCharette I've heard this model has a lot as well, but I just ordered one a couple days ago 😁🤞
Congrats! Hope you get a good one. Let me know how it is.
@@JohnLCharette For sure!
@@JohnLCharette I got her in! It's a beast! Does have some coil whine though under load.. But I think I'll stick with it. Did you test yours on an open bench?
Do you guys have problem with coil whine on this card?
I didn’t have any on the card I testing, but I also don’t keep them very long. From my experience, if it has coil whine, you hear it as soon as the card is under load. Are you experiencing some?
@@JohnLCharette it’s strange because I got my card last week and started playing my first game yesterday with no coil whine then today I got a lot of coil whine. I contacted my reseller and will get a new card but I’m afraid that most 4090 cards will have coil whine to a certain degree.
Interesting. I had a similar experience with the 4080 Eagle OC I've been using. When I first tested it, no coil whine, but now I can hear a slight buzzing. It isn't bad, but it's there. I'm not sure if I just didn't catch it before or if something changed. I'm glad you are able to get a replacement card.
Upgrading from 1080ti
Oh wow, that's a huge upgrade! Have you received your card yet? I'm curious about the performance difference and in which games.
Jesus christ , the russians are at our border and you think lifting 6 kilo's is heavy breathing exersize. Wauw !
Wait until I start my weightlifting channel - I'll use that case for deadlifts!
@@JohnLCharette 🤣
@@o0BaCaRDi0o yeah well
The 3090ti is tiny compared to that monster
Haha, yeah.. the 4080/4090s are HUGE. If you'd looking for a tiny, but amazing card. Check out my video about the Zotac 4070 Ti OC. th-cam.com/video/Sgt_DNdAtfA/w-d-xo.html
@@JohnLCharette thanks. will check it out. just found your channel and love it
11:35 Apple Use move. but still good video thank you.
I'm in doubt of surprise x and strix oc. in terms of temperature and coil noise. I was traumatized by my evga 3080 ti ftw ultra
Oh really?! What happened with your EVGA 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra? I love the FTW3 Ultra card.
@@JohnLCharette The plate is extremely hot, the fans make a lot of noise, impossible to play a very heavy game and in 4k. I changed the thermopad as in your video and it dropped 2 degrees. it sits at 80 to 85 degrees with the cabinet open.
Yikes. That sucks. That honestly sounds like an issue with your card. I’d get rid of it and get yourself something new. The 4080/4090 run way cooler than the 3000 series because of their larger heat sink size.
@@JohnLCharette i got a 4090 strix hoping it doesnt come with coil whine
Grunting simulator
You'd swear I was a caveman.. grunting simulator 2.0 coming soon!
I managed to watch this powerlifter video up to the end, man you're overacting, you know... Really hard to watch because I can't beleive that someone can't handle 2 kilos not being a 6 yo kid... I have 3080 Supreme X and I don't beleive this one is like 5 times heavier than mine.
Those who will throw some sh1t on me - just so you know this IS a part of a content this guy is creating, soooo... yeah... go ahead and throw some
Haha, I literally had to re-watch this video to figure out what you were talking about. Yeah, I grunt.. I make some noises and when comparing it to the other GPUs I've reviewed, it's one of the heaviest. I don't think anyone can deny that the 4090 series cards are HUGE and heavy. Sorry if my grunting wasn't your cup of tea. Appreciate the view and comment. Have a good one!
@@JohnLCharette no hard feelings man, the video is nice and informative, it's the first video I watched on your channel, great picture, cool backstage, nice sound. It's nice that you can get such a pricy parts for the review, thanks for the detailed review!
Dios te bendiga
this has to be the worst audio i’ve ever heard in a video
You must have some incredibly high standards.. that video was created 6 months ago and I've taken some steps to improve my audio quality. Let me know if my newer content is better. If not, I'm open to suggestions. You sound like you must know audio very well and can help.
Please tell me what temperature is considered normal for a video card if the card is idle (work in the browser)
My Gigabyte 3090 Vision's core is at 45C right now and VRAM at 56C. Hope this helps.
Thank you very much for your answer, I have 55 degrees Celsius at rest, sometimes even 60, I am very worried that this is a significant deviation from the norm in mode without heavy load. Msi 4090 rtx suprim x
Yeah, that does seem a little warm. Does your GPU have lots of fresh air in the case? What case are you using?
@@JohnLCharette I have a semi-open Cougar case (second generation), the video card is brand new, it costs 4 coolers for cooling and three on the video card. Currently via Aida 64 GPU hot spot 66 degrees and GPU memory 66 degrees, is this normal?
I wouldn't worry about the GPU hot spot. It's very common for the hot spot to be +10C more than the GPU Temp itself. You want to watch GPU Temperature and GPU Memory Junction Temperature.