Here's my perspective : science tells us that happiness is most associated with all the things money just can't buy : romantic love, good personal relationships, the respect of your peers, a stable and supportive social group, and all the rest of that hippie stuff from the middle of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. By contrast, money can only address the bottom of the hierarchy : you can eat and drink better, live in a nicer home, insure your personal safety, travel better, and so on. Above a comfortable life, the returns on increasing wealth drop off rapidly and you enter decadence. Decadence happens when you try to address spiritual problems by material means. Here's an example. Spiritual problem : you're lonely. Decadent response : you go onto a hookup app and hook up with someone for some no-strings sex. And while the scenario is playing out, you forget that you are lonely. And you are getting something that feels kind of like intimacy. But then the party's over, they leave, and you feel lonelier than ever. That's what decadence does. You stuff something material into the hole and that fills it for a while but in the process it makes the hole bigger. Go for the hippie stuff instead. It's harder to get but better to have.
Our system has made money our food and shelter (our survival) if we r barely surviving we, as a species, have a real hard time being happy. Try living without money (for real) with the typical knowledge an average American has on survival and I'm willing to bet money that 100% of them won't b happy....they'll likely b dead
The modern technologies you attributed to capitalism were not produced by capitalism. Every underlying technology that goes into modern tech was developed at government universities using our tax dollars. That also goes for medicine. The vast majority of the research and development that pharma corpos like to tout is to develop ways to administer drugs, not the medicine itself. And whatever advancements are made by the private sector is not attributable to the capitalist owner class. All of the credit for those advancements belongs to the labor of the working class.
Capitalism is the system that allowed for unrestricted growth irrespective of it's origin. And grow up a little, govt institutions can never innovate like private companies with a lot of money on the line
@@similarsimian Capitalism's strength is exploitation, consolidation of wealth and maximizing profit for the bourgeois owner class at the expense of human wellbeing and the ecosystem.
this video is one of my most exciting discoveries this year your perspective is so beautifully balanced, looking forward to hearing more from you! 🙏 ❤️
Made me realize this... We cant be selfless without first being selfish, otherwise how can we give if we lack the thing to give? It goes back to the concept of "filling your own cup first, so you can fill other people's cups". Can't be truly selfless ( spiritual ) without being selfish ( capital ).
I aint scared to attract money and wealth in my life. Its simply the robin hood mentality. If the Universe gifts me with richness, i will use it for my vision of world and i will give it away to level up communities. Everything i need, is already everything that i got. Money cant buy you love. Noone wants to be alone. We are a act of love. Never forget that and it goes full circle when you start to love your internal and external world. Giving is greater than recieving. Love your Neighbour like you love yourself. If you aint there yet, then you are not ready to change the world, because this economy is dictacted by fear and greed. You dont wanna be in that state of emotions to make decisions.
that's right were all trapped in the rat race together, and we have to work within this framework to survive, but I think it's important to remember that this system of greed and artificial scarcity is not the optimal condition for humanity, and spirituality is not a quick fix for this either, although it is a good tool of personal development, we need more non hierarchical community based solutions to the problems of neoliberal corporate capitalism, but maybe spiritual development could be a good way to organize non hierarchical community based solutions, so as to build a society where everyone can thrive and pursue their own personal or spiritual development, I think it's possible to build a co-op economy and cooperative communities. I think many of your points are spot on, I wouldn't call capitalism good per say, just that we currently have to work in that framework.
What you said regarding your realisations. These were close to it, yet it seems not fully integrated. This is one risk of doing this type of inner work regarding impermanence. It can lead to both enlightenment or the loss of all meaning and order. Something that can be difficult to recover from. Talking here from experience. Plus the duality you say regarding selflessness and selfishness is part of the scapegoat (shadow) and redeemer (light) split. Where there is a more subtle form of duality that leads to viewings things from the lens of impurity and purity. Which too is a duality, and keeps one trapped and from fully integrating the full realisation. This being a challenging process that I have written extensively about, and made some videos about too. It is a tricky business when it comes to such subtle traps, that can as easily trap one. As going all the way to the state of purity, will create a big shadow that then when the realisations and higher state of consciousness one tries to go after collapses and thus leads into its opposite in hedonism and the shadow comes forth with a reckoning. Which is why doing the inner work with the scapegoat (victim-child) and redeemer (Accepting Self) is a key step. Hence why the Buddha reached enlightenment the moment the young girl gave him a bowl of rice. So there is nothing wrong with the material world or earning something, or even desires. It is about our perception and way we internalise and operate with awareness in the world. The Integrity you talked about. The duality of selfish and selflessness creates a shadow, where also often assertiveness and other aspects are cut off. Which does not lead to full enlightenment, but keeps one still trapped in subtle ways.
Enlightenment comes from thousands of hours of dedicated mediation. It's a biological process that takes extreme amounts of effort and determination. The question of integration is more a question about mental health rather then enlightenment. Do you feel content most of the time? If yes then you have integrated everything quite well. People who actually peruse enlightenment will reach points of extreme suffering when they are shedding their ego completely. It makes you mentally unwell and go towards psychosis. It's a very destabilizing thing that i wouldn't recommend for most people. Maybe it's something I'd strive for when I am older but that's not my goal. My goal is to become the best self I can be first and help others to do the same with the tools I've learnt through spirituality and science. If you think in terms of Shadow and non-shadow duality you might be lost in the spiritual dream. Not that these concept aren't useful. The surely are. I only see many loose themselves in spiritual terms. I don't belief most people understand what it really takes to loose all forms of duality. And instead love to think about these spiritual terms because they hope it will rid them of all of their suffering. When the path towards enlightenment is more a path of hardcore meditation then fantasizing about it in intellectual terms. For most people there is a spiritual path to walk that embraces duality with harmony without having to go all the way. It's not feasible for most anyway because they struggle with way simpler issues like eating healthy or not working out. These are in way of their happiness. And it's probably true that terms like shadows are helpful for precisely these internal conflicts. And it will still require to confront a lot of darkness. But probably in amounts people can handle. Before anybody wants to dissolve all sense of duality I belief there should get their body in order. And it does require a good understanding of the dual nature of the human mind.
@@the.kleyko Not necessarily so. It is not just about mediation. The real inner process itself is tied to something deeply psychological in nature in a deeper sense. I am thinking her Jungian depth psychology. I would not say it is just about mental health. Sure that is part of it. Yet the deeper work tied to the Collective Shadow especially goes beyond just mere mental health. Same with the scapegoat complex itself. Which if one wants to overcome as Jungian analyst Sylvia Perera also pointed out requires one to move beyond duality completely. Beyond notions of sin and virtue, good and bad, order and chaos. And yes I feel content as I am. I generally don't really need to do anything specific even, to feel connected and content as I am. And I am aware of the extreme suffering involved, to the point of close to psychosis. I have been there myself, and know the pain involved. Moments of begging to the gods to end one, and even grieving ones own death. It is very destabilizing for sure. Some of the inner work I have done required me close to a month at a time to recover from. That is a good goal to have in life. From personal experience, I'd recommend that goal over what I did personally. The biggest challenge I have found is the immense contrast this creates between oneself and others, in a sense of perspective and ability to still connect with the culture. Well yeah. The shadow and non-shadow duality is indeed a trap. As there is indeed nothing wrong with the material world or with what you said in the video, nor your path. And you are right all of this is indeed beyond concepts. Concepts in this sense are like the finger pointing to the moon. We should not mistake that for what it is pointing towards. That is why the framework itself can become a trap as well. Hence why it is a tool and not the goal itself. And you are right. This is not for most people. Really not. Knowing the path myself. Some of the stuff you face is brutal, and I would not recommend. At some point I was glad that I got a state of non-identification with my emotions, so I could process things, without being cut up by it, or overwhelmed. Which really helped with the further journey. Yeah. You are right. That would be more personal shadow material, that would benefit their mental health. And not the type of stuff I wrestled with.
For context I did three years of deep self-analysis spanning over 1000 pages, next to wrestling with the Collective Shadow and direct engagement with various archetypes such as Wotan, Dionysus and the Sovereignty Goddess. Next to practicing Chod and Shamanism. And Korybantic practices. To break down all inner barriers towards the Self.
@@TheMysticTableFinally an INTJ who got through something identical to me. I agree it is hell. I managed to get to a peaceful state but it's so easy to lose it again. And the psychosis is real. Sometimes I felt like I was going crazy gone. It makes you question every sense of reality. Sometimes I wonder how I'm not actually floating. The only thing grounding seems to be aware not conscious. Consciousness leads to insanity and psychosis. Awarness grounds you to the shared observer of reality. It's like two states or modes of being in a sense. Awarness is the basic function of life while consciousness is beyond it. Consciousness is difficult because it forces transcendence from life which is involved directly to death. It forces evolution in a sense. It is self reflection and like the updating of one's alghoritm. I'm still not sure of how to get around it cause it gets so existential and it's difficult to get to the prior state now. It also seems that it is proportional to the knowledge you have. Hence the less you know the easier it is. The more you know it becames worse. And there's also a duality of light and darkness. In a sense consciousness is light and awarness is darkness. Babies live in that in between state of darkness hence why we can't remember that time. When we put the light it's automatically eradicating the awarness and I guess they need to be balanced in a sense were the awarness is like a constant input like data that is tranformed and processed by consciousness as integrated information. If there is only light but there's no darkness. It seems that it creates this inner conflict. Cause we are both and compromising either is like dividing and cutting yourself in half. I'm not sure how to get around this duality and double bind. Perhaps there's a third force that could reconcile the two but I'm not entirely sure yet. What do you think so far?
@@AnnonymousPrime-ks4uf It is hell. It is easy to lose it again for sure. For me personally it has been about facing my own suffering. Which is not an easy thing to do. not just trauma, but just the suffering inherent in existence. Till I could sit and be without anything disrupting this sense of peace. It is a very difficult process. Many inner conflicts and dualities to work through. It kinda does at points regarding reality. At some point I was deep into shamanic work, and the sense of inner versus outer world became more thin. Keeping proper awareness of it, and staying grounded is difficult to do. It is easy for the inner to spill into the outer and lead to psychosis. In the end it is about the inner observer, and not the ego with its mental chattering. Though it takes time and is an entire process to work through that. What I figured is that emotional processing is key in overcoming the psychological complexes that generate the mental chatter. So my path has been more Tantric in a way. Though it is not for most. A friend of mine had to stop. Well I told them to, as they did not handle it well. For me at this point I know quite a lot, due to all the research and reading I have done. Though this was for me mostly to have the needed framework to understand the journey and keep out of the pitfalls. Which is why proper guidance is key. Well yeah. That is the initial state of unconscious wholeness with babies. Where we then fall into a state between both, where the ego starts to dominate. Finally through the development of inner morality and overcoming various inner conflict and illusions, we get closer to the Self. That inner true essence of who we are beyond the ego. We are both indeed. We should not try to get rid of either. It is more about aligning both. Which starts to produce the third. That last bit is a really difficult one to pull of. You need the exact right conditions, where both you see beyond the duality of order and chaos, AND integrate the Shadow and Consciousness, next to Anima/Animus. To hold that all together simultaneously, whilst overcoming the scapegoat-redeemer split, through the internalisation of the Accepting Self. It is a tall order for most. It is not something that can be done by the ego, or forced. Sure we can do certain actions in the hope it might happen, but it is a process that occurs on its own. It is guided by the Self, and will unfold how it does. That what holds these opposites together is the Self, the Atman, Brahman or Monad. Whatever label we might use for this.
Excellent video! I was actually torn between these two things that you describe so well on the video, capitalism and spirituality. Thank you for shedding some light on this 👍🏻❤️
you have to give to yourself in order to be fulfilled enough to give to others. Its your life, YOU are the one that has to take care of yourself first. Stay blessed, be well. I love you.
This is very helpful. I’ve been stuck in my ego thinking about the same conflict. Short of leaving society and living poor this seems like the only sensible path.
14:50 is something i definitely needed to hear thank you! Before i started seeking i was working at a bass pro at 18-20 and wanted to join the army as a combat medic but life got in the way, since then ive been stuck in a rut while gorging myself in knowledge yet doing nothing with it, and being paralyzed in the fear of where i want to go because yes i still like the idea of army medic but at the same time thatll seriously stunt my spiritual evolution and definitely does not hold an environment for self actualization. Thankfully im still just 21 but i still feel so behind even tho ik it doesn't matter in the long run.
Do what you really want to do man. There is most likely a calling there. Life is long but the earlier one does impactful decisions the quicker one can end up at a wonderful place. Being a combat medic sounds super virtuous.
You can't take it with you when you die... But you should enjoy it while you're here... Be kind and considerate of others while working on your virtues. The qualities that make you you. I'd start with Stoicism. Work around that. Meditations, by Marcus Aurelius is a good start.
@@the.kleyko “Capitalism with a Conscious” I was told by a coworker that you can’t become a millionaire and still be Christ-like….I know I can but it’s hard to describe. Seeing your video was a sign to keep pushing forward and that it is possible without having to lose self respect.
@@philiphugh1785 When I have millions of dollars I'll definitely not be spending them all on myself. Being altruistic and spending it on others is way more fun anyway. The power to make the world a better plays lies a lot in money.
Dope video bro you're really wise. Put it like this, the whole point of spirituality is to realize oneself and to align with the divine energy that created you along with everything else, but how does this divine energy create? By simply wanting to create, to evolve, to experience, to live. So when it comes to the reality of capitalism you have to understand that it's the same energy that also birthed it through us, so if you are truly aligned you can definently use money to expand yourself and to help others. Like jesus said "i must work the works of him that sent me" and if money is the way of work just do you
For the past year i have strived to become a narcissist while also being self-aware because i think both can be true at the same time and the automaton text where you explain yourself explains what i was thinking of in 2023 and this year pretty well
Narcissus fell in love with his image, not his own self. Self love is liberating unlike narcissism. Self love makes us not only empathise with others, but to love them as we love ourselves, much like how it is described in the Oxherding Tales in Zen Buddhism. A bankrupt and hollow spirituality pushes you to embrace the flows of the market. But true spirituality sees you embrace the Eternal Dao, the Dao which cannot be named.
Narcissism is a personality that compensates for a absent functional personality. It's a disconnection from reality and to live in a constant state of delusion. Why would you want to willingly become that? Cluster B are failed human beings.
You will eventually get what you desire. If you desire the material you will get it. This life or another. And if you’re happy with them, good for you, I’m glad you’ve found something to hold on. But for many of us the meaning of spirituality is to let go of the desire for the physical realm so that we will ascend to where we desire.. Something to keep in mind.
Yes. I agree. But I am not sure if this is feasible for most. Enlightenment is a real thing but it takes thousands of hours of meditation mastery to make it happen. It's probably one of the most difficult things to do but people struggle with social media addiction and eating healthy. So even if the end goal is transcendence I belief even most spiritual people need to get their body in order first. It's precisely this resistance to the physical realm that is in the way of most peoples peace.
Amazing reflections! I was also going about those thoughts lately of sleflesness and how can I become more valuable to those around me (not with the narcicist intent, of course). I like the last points you made, and I see those as: 1. Enjoy the ride, not the destination (because you might not even get there); 2. This is a tricky one... when people are desperate, I think that it would not take much for them to provide unworthy things, since that in this world, money provides you with the most primal needs, such as food and shelter, so I would not judge someone providing automatic toilet seat openers or useless stuff like that in order to survive... but it's important to be conscious about it and try to make an impact; 3. And yes of course. I actually always felt like something never made anyone really secure, you know? I've been very fortunate in my life, now I'm struggling financially, but overall that didn't dictate my happiness, because in the end, happiness comes from within, from the development of the spirit.
🤔You've reflected very deeply on these issues, and thanks for sharing your perspective. I've myself explored the SD model for years through Ken Wilber's work, and while I still resonate largely with it, I do see them more as "traps" (as you called them) than stages. As there can only be "one master", so we do have to be decisive in what motive is leading us. In our current world, we do need money to survive, and this pushes us to compromise. In a future world, hopefully, we will be working purely from and for Spirit.
if you want some examples where this works, think of how many times youve seen content where a small business owner does a project for free, or does free work on the side while running a business that makes money, then using the free work and paid work for content in the digital age to bring more eyeballs. if there ever was a pure example of early stage Spiritual Capitalism that would be it in my opinion. and if we can apply that kind of mindset of ambition and getting paid, with the consciousness and humility. we can bring back the golden ages in a manner that benefits everyone and everyone is working cohesively to function as a society. it also solves a lot of the typical criticisms of capitalism as we know it today. as most of those criticisms boil down to greedy actors manipulating others in harmful ways to consolidate their own wealth.
Don t know how youtube suggested me this but it was about time finding someone talking about a more important issue eroding society than capitalism. Spirituality, morals, ethics and all those inerverse things are really the most important things to discuss to save an individual or a society. Capitalism doesn t corrupt the soul, lack of morals and healthy spirit destroys the soul and in turn destroys everything and everyone in a society, and capitalism too Definition of capitalism from wikipedia "Capitalism is an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit", in short people are free to do bussines and owning private stuff. What capitalism never proposes is a moral and ethical framework. That remains to be implemented freely by each individual, be it bad morals or destructive ethics. The problem with people judging capitalism is they act like it has bad morals and ethics, when in fact it has none, never promised morals and never will have. It just says "do business freely as you see fit" that last part in the definition "operation for profit", profit doesn t mean necessary monetary profit, not even the term capital doesn t necessarily mean only monetary capital. For example, you work as a gardener but you re not payed that much, it s just decent money, but you have the option to work in a corporation and make 10x the money. But you chose gardening because you see working in nature, getting dirty, growing beautiful living plants is way more profitable for yourself than just some money made by working in a soulless. Profit and capital is about value, and money isn t the only thing people find valuable. Value is more intrinsic element than money . Feeling that satisfaction, gratefulness and wholeness from gardening is a better profit gain for you tofind valuable in your life. And that is as valid as to be someone who prefers the desk corpo job with meetings, mails and executive politics cause you like the abstract work, the social game, you also like the money and you don t like to get dirty, borderline germophobe and have pollen allergies. Institutions like religion, culture, art, philosophy, tradition etc are the ones providing the morals and ethics for adjusting the kind of values each individual has. A materialistic and hedonistic culture with no belief in a higher power, beauty, sacrifice, responsability is exactly the kind of culture that makes people value just money and which gives the right incentives and excuses to individuals to value greediness, exploitation, deceiving, manipulation, addiction etc.. A society won t degenerate because of capitalism, it will degenerate because those bad values will dictate the rules of the game. Capitalism it s just the playing field. Societies crumbled in other systems like socialism exactly because of degenerate morals, ask the russians and east europeans. The irony of socialism is that it's a moral system in which its proponents are pretending to be an economic system. Moral systems can't just be implemented and transplanted at a snap of finger in diverse and diferent cultures and people. If you ask me it doesn t fit in any kind of human society, it (might) works only in hive animals like ants and bees Capitalism doesn t dictate that you should work for money or gold, it just let's you free in an open field where you can cultivate your thing and exchange it with other people that find valuable the same things as you do. That s why as a gardener you can trade your services for food and shelter all your life, but each individual of this society decided that using money as currency is a worthy convenience. But the problem with that freedom capitalism gives each one is that corrupt morals and ethics can easily hijack the whole market and even the whole economic system. That s why a good foundation of morals and ethics are extremely essential towards having a sustainable society. If capitalism gives you a playing field in a stadium then players with no morals and conduit will slowly erode the whole thing into the ground. So i find it very useful for you to talk about capitalism in a good way cause it desperately needs, but it's very excelent to talk about profound stuff like spirit and morals, that s where the meat of the world is
You are more important than anything else. When you were born, the cosmos was created, but you are not separate from it, or from all its contents, or this planet, society, city, family unit etc. These all come back to the one, that is what makes them eternal.
I love the idea of spiritual capitalism. The first thing I thought when at the beginning of the video is that selfless and selfish kinda complement themselves, like the Yin-Yang symbol
Its not. Its just understand what is which one sphere by they real definition... Capitalism is free market, voluntarism and respect to the others property, its made to facilitate the collaboration. Because we are obviously material beings that depends of resources to live. Spiritualism is connection to your self, or in other words, notice that capitalism and resources are not you, these things are only tools, and you are who create the benefits and harms.
Stop trying to hurt his fragile mega ego. it cannot be done. I noticed he didn't like your comment. Next time confirm his delusional mega ego and you might get a like. Stay Blessed 🕉️☸️☯️♾️🕊️💛🙏🏻
I love how you think, thank you for this wonderful video 🎉 (and i hope that part about you transcending the turquoise stage was sarcasm, it seemed pretty dry)
Why is wealth inherently selfish. If it’s done honestly with consideration for others, it becomes a situation of game theory. I help you succeed so you can help me succeed. When I have a lot of wealth, I can give more generously, which helps the less fortunate get on their feet where they can participate in the economy, allowing them to help me succeed more as I help them succeed. It’s all a boomerang at the end of the day. If you throw dishonesty and theft to get rich, you will eventually be manipulated and robbed. Maybe not today, but eventually. If you throw generosity and honesty, you will have people you can trust, and your investments will be stable. Even if everything fails apart, you will have people to have your back if you were constantly there for other people.
Spiritual Capitalism sounds like a great way to get poor fast. Why would a good person be more successful than a bad person? People who make products that fix needs end up out of business. Corporations that create problems and sell the "solution" are much more profitable.
@@the.kleyko I always felt aligned to it, but in 2023 was a year that changed my perspective on a lot of things, about how I consume, how I see others that are on the top... etc. Fact is, this culture can become inhumane, as some sacrficice their own time and life for more profit or hardworking that will not make you fulfilled, as I once felt. It really took a toll on my mental health. Replacing realtionships for your own carrer... the list goes on.
The “law of attraction” and manifestation is largely ludicrous, but it is not entirely worthless as it is still based in the boomerang principle. Even by just thinking or wishing for something, you are throwing those desires out into the world in a way that effects your actions, and some people eventually find what they wished for coming back to them, especially when manifestation has influenced them to do the right work to get what they wanted: Again it is largely empty and ineffective and should never be relied on, but there is an underlying boomerang principle. Throw out the right things, you will get the right results. Throw the wrong things, you’ll get bad results
I think you might actually understand the underlying principles of what the law of attraction is. Would you say that you might be a little bit hesitant to adopt it as a legit thing because of it's associations with some woowoo type people? I'm interested in your perspective genuinely.
What really matters with manifesting is that you envision yourself doing something. If you envision working hard before you do so it actually works. As long is the source of the manifestation is internally oriented. And it's logical that when you give more you'll receive more. The energy you put in is what you get out. Envisioning can be a good psychological tool. And the boomerang principle is in a way correct. The issue comes with trying to manifest getting a car, or getting a partner for life or whatever as if you are praying to the universe, as if it can understand you. Then it becomes somewhat delusional. So as long as you envision *you doing something* to get what you want, it will actually work. So you don't envision "having a nice car" but you envision "waking up motivated to go to work" You are telling your psychology what the real next step is and wiring dopamine towards it.
Run from what's comfortable. Forget safety. Live where you fear to live. Destroy your reputation. Be notorious. I have tried prudent planning long enough. From now on I'll be mad. -Rumi I disagree, if you run in the opposite direction, let go of the models and ideas structures that society has imparted on you from the moment you're born until this moment, you can see that you can be free without having to be rich The great way is open to those with no preferences And it's not pushing away who you are, it's pushing away who you are not and realizing your true identity You're not who you think you are. And if you think you need money to be happy, you're not a thought so drop that one too
Love da vid had my own theroy around this for a while, the mixtape "Hi this is flume" awakened it. Anyways, how does one codition themselves to waking up in the morning??? xd
this is flume is a good mixtape. I've known it for years but never knew the lyrics are about this. (you condition yourself to wake up in the morning when you go to bed at night Xp)
One day once we Abolish capitalism people will be free to just be and find self fulfilment in a world that is kind and selfless to everyone. I really hope this is the trajectory the human race is headed towards. Even if it won't be in my lifetime.
Capitalism is the wrong framework for what you were speaking of. The reason for all these things we appreciate was industrialization, government incentives and shareholder tech culture. Without people who are willing to invest in money losing companies for higher growth rates, hoping their shares will explode in a bubble and make them rich when they sell the shares. We could've had even faster tech advancement in a different system.
Capitalism is not corporatism, capitalism is free market... People voluntarily cooperating with each other to produce more abundance and prosperity, both for themselves and for those who benefit from the production. "Capital" is not the resource itself, it comes from "capita" (head) and means 'that which is headed/managed', therefore "financial capital" means 'management of money'. On the other hand, corporatism is about monopoly, it passes itself off as management, but it is just manipulation, market reservation. This only happens when some entity (usually the State) gives "rights" (perks) to someone in some way penalizing everyone else, as happens with state-owned companies (monopolies financed with money taken from the population), copyrights (monopolisms that prevent direct competition) and government incentives (which take resources from everyone and give them to a few).
Do not conflate capitalism with markets, commerce, trade or whatever even competition and the profit motive, it is a specific system that underlies other things. Capitalism is like a bottom layer. So, most of what people associate with capitalism has nothing to do with capitalism itself. Capitalism is a specific system that exploits markets and competition and vague notion of profit motive with assumptions. You can have a lot of the stuff we associate with capitalism without an underlying system of capitalism. Capitalism requires private ownership of the means of production, but that doesn't mean system that employs private ownership is capitalism. Why do we need a man-made system layered underneath? That invalidates many ways of being spiritual.
I think it is posible to be wealthy and spiritualy , with no money we cant survive , still money is important thing in this world and we shouldnt beleive money is root of all evil , it depends on the person it self how he gain and spend its money, it is what it is
The idea of the sheep, and abandoned matarielized things in pursuit of greater wisdom or englightenment is just incompetent disguise as wise. Wise people, after obtaining englightenment. I am sure they will have a high degree of intuition and this is a very huge advantage over those who don't, they can see 10 steps ahead on the market or politic chessboard. They can communicate with the spirit, they can plan and take action as they already master their mind and emotion. And hack you better work for this spiritual person since he knows what you don't know as he alchemist his pain and suffering into strength that this world don't want to deal with. I think true spiritual people are the one like Elon Musk etc.... look at them, they seems like they are high chasing after a fleeting dream but at whatever they do, they always accomplish it. Not for a selfish reason as well, but for a better world. If you ask me, I think God want us all to live boldly as ourselves and pursuit our dream ruthleslly. Sure you need isolate to communicate with him, but he doesn't want you to sit still and doing nothing and call it a life, no shit, this is a waste of life. But if you are happy, then good but do not call yourself wise guru.
3:26 how about solving problems because people don't deserve to have to pay not to experience them how about that this "spiritual" form of capitalism that you champion is stomach turning
Belief me, if I had a magic wand to easily rid the world of all suffering I would gladly be waving it all day. Infinite abundance of time and resources would imply a moral obligation to give for free. This is also why the all powerful Christian concept of a god is a Pos.
Oh, the worn as ever mistaken association of capitalism and progress. Please, take note that Capitalism is not properly defined as a 'system in which stuff is produced', opposed by 'anti-producing systems'. Capitalism is defined by the strive to accumulate capital, not by it's production. The progress we've made with electronics, higher resource accessibility, among many other QoL achievements, sure happened within capitalist driven societies, yet by any means are exclusive consequences of it. Monetary incentive is culturally induced behavior, as in many socialist experiences, and even in less aggressive capitalist regions, it is much less of a drive force. This monetary incentive directly antagonizes altruism and desire to help or be useful. This is specially true when information companies, and the market as a whole, invest shitloads of money in many forms of propaganda, to convince people that they need something more than they really do. Need or desire of specific things are not something we are born with, and it sound quite malicious advocating that the same entities that forge these desires on national or international scale and profit astronomically from it, are maybe trying to help us. Materialism may have you think that nothing matters, but one of the consequences of socialist theory is overcoming that stage on human civilization, where many people's needs hold them back in seeking or building higher purposes, and that as a strongly bonded community, we can help each other in our pursue. The key idea is that materialism seeks to define reality and ourselves by what we perceive existing, but being past a positivism school of thought, our perception of spirituality is also a product of material and should be of value having, and thus materialism and spirituality/meaning are not contradictory. It sounds like you've stuck yourself in conformism with the way things are, failing to figure a way out of capitalism and ultimately in need to conciliate self preservation with the many conflicts and sufferings necessary for it to work, that cooperation somehow can be sought and encouraged while individualism constantly grows in our social arrangement, and even with spirituality, just to stay sane and mentally healthy. I'm in no position of judging you for your standing, but it truly saddens me.
Appreciate this long and thoughtful comment. There might be a future where capitalism isn't the only option. I'm well open to that. A.I is probably the best chance we will get to make scarcity a non-issue. But even these extraordinary advancements in technology that might facilitate a better system only thrive because of the capitalist system we are under currently. It's true that not all advancements come from monetary incentive, but the most disruptive ones do. At the current state of the world, a disruption to Capitalism would mean utter death and destruction for almost everybody alive. I understand your disagreement is towards my Capitalist realism stance. But to belief that another economical system could possibly be made functional from the point that we are on is far removed from reality. And for an individual, is completely unpractical. All the issues you list with capitalism are true. And there is potential for better systems ahead.
Bro, deleting my comment isn't very enlightened of you... But sincerely: hating humanity and wilfully exploiting people won't bring you what you need. I hope you find someone to hold you x
I commented that this is literally a villain mindset bro… and that detaching yourself from everything only serves to ruin you… you exist individually as a mind yes but you also exist externally in the memories of everyone around you… it is the latter that will be your legacy… so surely it is more in your interest to create meaningful connections by supporting your community, not exploiting them… for in exploiting them you will always be remembered as the villain who justified his actions through a web of delusions that he should be detached in order to live a meaningful life…
@@willellis6114 i agree with everything you say. The video doesn't say the opposite. I also include the understanding of the ego. There is an exploitative part of the human mind and I shed light to it. Survival requires some self centeredness. But I too belief that empathy is the way to go. That's the point of the video.
@@the.kleyko I agree that there is an exploitative side to us, and that we are embedded with the need to survive, but we need not 'survive' for there is plenty of wealth to be distributed, it is capitalism which forces us to fight to survive... Under capitalism, a tool to justify mass exploitation, markets and people driven by profit will naturally result in conflict... Empathy will always be weeded out in capitalism, for it is not profitable to be empathetic... If there exist these stark contradictions between empathy and capitalism, why not explore alternative economics instead of justifying your participation in a corrupt system with spirituality?
Ok...i thought it would be interesting video but my man has just discovered altruism and free market. PS You know socialism make all profession so evenly profitable that people do their job to fulfill their dreams by being useful and not so the trends just because it pays more. A bit disappointed tho 😢
This video didn't actually help me to realize anything. I don't need help knowing that capitalism and spiritualism don't conflict depending on how you go about....... What I need to know is how to actually Get shit done and learn things and figure out what I need to do. Personally I love music but I am fucking terrible at producing it and I don't have the money needed to fund my research. What I need is a mentor to guide me through things without having to go $200000 in debt. What sucks is all these people though That have the knowledge sell courses for way higher of a price than I can afford at this shitty job Im at .... It's not that I don't have the balls to go out and start a business I literally just don't have the money to do anything........ You literally need money to make money....... The problem is all these gurus telling me to invest in certain things are always wrong...... So how the fuck am I supposed to go about my life and go about doing what I actually want if I have no means to do so....... What I need is things I can actualize not whimsical ideas I can't put into practice.... You wanted feedback
Bro the real answer is: Just do it. When you can’t get an apartment because the rent is high, would you give up and get a shitty apartment or would you stand up, research and learn with courses and books what are basically permanent knowledge. Stop always looking on the loss and start looking on the win. As long as you make progress, everything comes at you. It takes time, be patience and delete all distractions on your phone and use it as a tool for yourself and don’t be used as a product for these companies
you lost me when you started listing all the 'boons" of capitalism. I think all of those things are horrible for us, why would i be grateful for those?
Real spirituality is about eliminating the ego, and one of the best ways to do that is asceticism and voluntary poverty. I dislike the message of this video
Here's my perspective : science tells us that happiness is most associated with all the things money just can't buy : romantic love, good personal relationships, the respect of your peers, a stable and supportive social group, and all the rest of that hippie stuff from the middle of Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
By contrast, money can only address the bottom of the hierarchy : you can eat and drink better, live in a nicer home, insure your personal safety, travel better, and so on.
Above a comfortable life, the returns on increasing wealth drop off rapidly and you enter decadence. Decadence happens when you try to address spiritual problems by material means.
Here's an example. Spiritual problem : you're lonely. Decadent response : you go onto a hookup app and hook up with someone for some no-strings sex.
And while the scenario is playing out, you forget that you are lonely. And you are getting something that feels kind of like intimacy.
But then the party's over, they leave, and you feel lonelier than ever.
That's what decadence does. You stuff something material into the hole and that fills it for a while but in the process it makes the hole bigger.
Go for the hippie stuff instead. It's harder to get but better to have.
If you don't have extra money, your friends and family resent you. Oops.
@@dallassegno That's not really about the money, is it? I am betting it's about something deeper.
@@dallassegnoyou need better family and friends man
Our system has made money our food and shelter (our survival) if we r barely surviving we, as a species, have a real hard time being happy. Try living without money (for real) with the typical knowledge an average American has on survival and I'm willing to bet money that 100% of them won't b happy....they'll likely b dead
@@dallassegno If your friends and family only want you for your money why would you be content with them around?
The modern technologies you attributed to capitalism were not produced by capitalism. Every underlying technology that goes into modern tech was developed at government universities using our tax dollars. That also goes for medicine. The vast majority of the research and development that pharma corpos like to tout is to develop ways to administer drugs, not the medicine itself. And whatever advancements are made by the private sector is not attributable to the capitalist owner class. All of the credit for those advancements belongs to the labor of the working class.
Thank you for this!
Capitalism is the system that allowed for unrestricted growth irrespective of it's origin. And grow up a little, govt institutions can never innovate like private companies with a lot of money on the line
Capitalism's strengths are production and distribution, it never had to be the inventor-system
@@similarsimian Capitalism's strength is exploitation, consolidation of wealth and maximizing profit for the bourgeois owner class at the expense of human wellbeing and the ecosystem.
@@OntoBunny moral panic
this video is one of my most exciting discoveries this year
your perspective is so beautifully balanced, looking forward to hearing more from you! 🙏 ❤️
This is the first time I’ve ever been serious by saying “your channel is criminally underrated.” You keep up the keeping up!
Made me realize this... We cant be selfless without first being selfish, otherwise how can we give if we lack the thing to give? It goes back to the concept of "filling your own cup first, so you can fill other people's cups". Can't be truly selfless ( spiritual ) without being selfish ( capital ).
Ofc this is what maslows Pyramid talks about
I aint scared to attract money and wealth in my life. Its simply the robin hood mentality. If the Universe gifts me with richness, i will use it for my vision of world and i will give it away to level up communities.
Everything i need, is already everything that i got.
Money cant buy you love. Noone wants to be alone. We are a act of love.
Never forget that and it goes full circle when you start to love your internal and external world. Giving is greater than recieving. Love your Neighbour like you love yourself.
If you aint there yet, then you are not ready to change the world, because this economy is dictacted by fear and greed. You dont wanna be in that state of emotions to make decisions.
Great content. Keep recording because this is exactly the kind of knowledge we need. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you
that's right were all trapped in the rat race together, and we have to work within this framework to survive, but I think it's important to remember that this system of greed and artificial scarcity is not the optimal condition for humanity, and spirituality is not a quick fix for this either, although it is a good tool of personal development, we need more non hierarchical community based solutions to the problems of neoliberal corporate capitalism, but maybe spiritual development could be a good way to organize non hierarchical community based solutions, so as to build a society where everyone can thrive and pursue their own personal or spiritual development, I think it's possible to build a co-op economy and cooperative communities. I think many of your points are spot on, I wouldn't call capitalism good per say, just that we currently have to work in that framework.
Learnt a good concept today. Thank you for sharing
Good stuff brother.
Love and blessings!
Watching this video came at a good time to help organise the chaos in my head, thank you
What you said regarding your realisations. These were close to it, yet it seems not fully integrated. This is one risk of doing this type of inner work regarding impermanence. It can lead to both enlightenment or the loss of all meaning and order. Something that can be difficult to recover from. Talking here from experience. Plus the duality you say regarding selflessness and selfishness is part of the scapegoat (shadow) and redeemer (light) split. Where there is a more subtle form of duality that leads to viewings things from the lens of impurity and purity. Which too is a duality, and keeps one trapped and from fully integrating the full realisation. This being a challenging process that I have written extensively about, and made some videos about too. It is a tricky business when it comes to such subtle traps, that can as easily trap one. As going all the way to the state of purity, will create a big shadow that then when the realisations and higher state of consciousness one tries to go after collapses and thus leads into its opposite in hedonism and the shadow comes forth with a reckoning. Which is why doing the inner work with the scapegoat (victim-child) and redeemer (Accepting Self) is a key step. Hence why the Buddha reached enlightenment the moment the young girl gave him a bowl of rice. So there is nothing wrong with the material world or earning something, or even desires. It is about our perception and way we internalise and operate with awareness in the world. The Integrity you talked about. The duality of selfish and selflessness creates a shadow, where also often assertiveness and other aspects are cut off. Which does not lead to full enlightenment, but keeps one still trapped in subtle ways.
Enlightenment comes from thousands of hours of dedicated mediation.
It's a biological process that takes extreme amounts of effort and determination.
The question of integration is more a question about mental health rather then enlightenment. Do you feel content most of the time?
If yes then you have integrated everything quite well.
People who actually peruse enlightenment will reach points of extreme suffering when they are shedding their ego completely. It makes you mentally unwell and go towards psychosis. It's a very destabilizing thing that i wouldn't recommend for most people.
Maybe it's something I'd strive for when I am older but that's not my goal.
My goal is to become the best self I can be first and help others to do the same with the tools I've learnt through spirituality and science.
If you think in terms of Shadow and non-shadow duality you might be lost in the spiritual dream.
Not that these concept aren't useful. The surely are. I only see many loose themselves in spiritual terms. I don't belief most people understand what it really takes to loose all forms of duality. And instead love to think about these spiritual terms because they hope it will rid them of all of their suffering. When the path towards enlightenment is more a path of hardcore meditation then fantasizing about it in intellectual terms.
For most people there is a spiritual path to walk that embraces duality with harmony without having to go all the way. It's not feasible for most anyway because they struggle with way simpler issues like eating healthy or not working out. These are in way of their happiness. And it's probably true that terms like shadows are helpful for precisely these internal conflicts. And it will still require to confront a lot of darkness. But probably in amounts people can handle.
Before anybody wants to dissolve all sense of duality I belief there should get their body in order. And it does require a good understanding of the dual nature of the human mind.
@@the.kleyko Not necessarily so. It is not just about mediation. The real inner process itself is tied to something deeply psychological in nature in a deeper sense. I am thinking her Jungian depth psychology. I would not say it is just about mental health. Sure that is part of it. Yet the deeper work tied to the Collective Shadow especially goes beyond just mere mental health. Same with the scapegoat complex itself. Which if one wants to overcome as Jungian analyst Sylvia Perera also pointed out requires one to move beyond duality completely. Beyond notions of sin and virtue, good and bad, order and chaos.
And yes I feel content as I am. I generally don't really need to do anything specific even, to feel connected and content as I am. And I am aware of the extreme suffering involved, to the point of close to psychosis. I have been there myself, and know the pain involved. Moments of begging to the gods to end one, and even grieving ones own death. It is very destabilizing for sure. Some of the inner work I have done required me close to a month at a time to recover from.
That is a good goal to have in life. From personal experience, I'd recommend that goal over what I did personally. The biggest challenge I have found is the immense contrast this creates between oneself and others, in a sense of perspective and ability to still connect with the culture.
Well yeah. The shadow and non-shadow duality is indeed a trap. As there is indeed nothing wrong with the material world or with what you said in the video, nor your path. And you are right all of this is indeed beyond concepts. Concepts in this sense are like the finger pointing to the moon. We should not mistake that for what it is pointing towards. That is why the framework itself can become a trap as well. Hence why it is a tool and not the goal itself.
And you are right. This is not for most people. Really not. Knowing the path myself. Some of the stuff you face is brutal, and I would not recommend. At some point I was glad that I got a state of non-identification with my emotions, so I could process things, without being cut up by it, or overwhelmed. Which really helped with the further journey. Yeah. You are right. That would be more personal shadow material, that would benefit their mental health. And not the type of stuff I wrestled with.
For context I did three years of deep self-analysis spanning over 1000 pages, next to wrestling with the Collective Shadow and direct engagement with various archetypes such as Wotan, Dionysus and the Sovereignty Goddess. Next to practicing Chod and Shamanism. And Korybantic practices. To break down all inner barriers towards the Self.
@@TheMysticTableFinally an INTJ who got through something identical to me. I agree it is hell. I managed to get to a peaceful state but it's so easy to lose it again. And the psychosis is real. Sometimes I felt like I was going crazy gone.
It makes you question every sense of reality. Sometimes I wonder how I'm not actually floating. The only thing grounding seems to be aware not conscious. Consciousness leads to insanity and psychosis. Awarness grounds you to the shared observer of reality.
It's like two states or modes of being in a sense. Awarness is the basic function of life while consciousness is beyond it. Consciousness is difficult because it forces transcendence from life which is involved directly to death. It forces evolution in a sense. It is self reflection and like the updating of one's alghoritm.
I'm still not sure of how to get around it cause it gets so existential and it's difficult to get to the prior state now. It also seems that it is proportional to the knowledge you have. Hence the less you know the easier it is. The more you know it becames worse. And there's also a duality of light and darkness. In a sense consciousness is light and awarness is darkness. Babies live in that in between state of darkness hence why we can't remember that time. When we put the light it's automatically eradicating the awarness and I guess they need to be balanced in a sense were the awarness is like a constant input like data that is tranformed and processed by consciousness as integrated information. If there is only light but there's no darkness.
It seems that it creates this inner conflict. Cause we are both and compromising either is like dividing and cutting yourself in half. I'm not sure how to get around this duality and double bind. Perhaps there's a third force that could reconcile the two but I'm not entirely sure yet.
What do you think so far?
@@AnnonymousPrime-ks4uf It is hell. It is easy to lose it again for sure. For me personally it has been about facing my own suffering. Which is not an easy thing to do. not just trauma, but just the suffering inherent in existence. Till I could sit and be without anything disrupting this sense of peace. It is a very difficult process. Many inner conflicts and dualities to work through. It kinda does at points regarding reality. At some point I was deep into shamanic work, and the sense of inner versus outer world became more thin. Keeping proper awareness of it, and staying grounded is difficult to do. It is easy for the inner to spill into the outer and lead to psychosis. In the end it is about the inner observer, and not the ego with its mental chattering. Though it takes time and is an entire process to work through that. What I figured is that emotional processing is key in overcoming the psychological complexes that generate the mental chatter. So my path has been more Tantric in a way. Though it is not for most. A friend of mine had to stop. Well I told them to, as they did not handle it well.
For me at this point I know quite a lot, due to all the research and reading I have done. Though this was for me mostly to have the needed framework to understand the journey and keep out of the pitfalls. Which is why proper guidance is key. Well yeah. That is the initial state of unconscious wholeness with babies. Where we then fall into a state between both, where the ego starts to dominate. Finally through the development of inner morality and overcoming various inner conflict and illusions, we get closer to the Self. That inner true essence of who we are beyond the ego. We are both indeed. We should not try to get rid of either. It is more about aligning both. Which starts to produce the third. That last bit is a really difficult one to pull of. You need the exact right conditions, where both you see beyond the duality of order and chaos, AND integrate the Shadow and Consciousness, next to Anima/Animus. To hold that all together simultaneously, whilst overcoming the scapegoat-redeemer split, through the internalisation of the Accepting Self. It is a tall order for most. It is not something that can be done by the ego, or forced. Sure we can do certain actions in the hope it might happen, but it is a process that occurs on its own. It is guided by the Self, and will unfold how it does. That what holds these opposites together is the Self, the Atman, Brahman or Monad. Whatever label we might use for this.
You nailed it in the intro. I keep trying to explain this to people.
Excellent video! I was actually torn between these two things that you describe so well on the video, capitalism and spirituality. Thank you for shedding some light on this 👍🏻❤️
A very high value video; thank you so much.
you aree craaazyyy broo so on point lovin the content
A lot of this resonated with me, I’ll have to reflect with this. Thank you for this pov man!
Insightful points with a lot of value that gives me something to work on. Thank you for sharing bro! More people need to see this!
you have to give to yourself in order to be fulfilled enough to give to others. Its your life, YOU are the one that has to take care of yourself first. Stay blessed, be well. I love you.
This is very helpful. I’ve been stuck in my ego thinking about the same conflict. Short of leaving society and living poor this seems like the only sensible path.
Thanks, this connected all parts of my life and now I know why it was all needed.
14:50 is something i definitely needed to hear thank you! Before i started seeking i was working at a bass pro at 18-20 and wanted to join the army as a combat medic but life got in the way, since then ive been stuck in a rut while gorging myself in knowledge yet doing nothing with it, and being paralyzed in the fear of where i want to go because yes i still like the idea of army medic but at the same time thatll seriously stunt my spiritual evolution and definitely does not hold an environment for self actualization. Thankfully im still just 21 but i still feel so behind even tho ik it doesn't matter in the long run.
Do what you really want to do man. There is most likely a calling there. Life is long but the earlier one does impactful decisions the quicker one can end up at a wonderful place.
Being a combat medic sounds super virtuous.
You can't take it with you when you die... But you should enjoy it while you're here... Be kind and considerate of others while working on your virtues. The qualities that make you you. I'd start with Stoicism. Work around that. Meditations, by Marcus Aurelius is a good start.
I needed to see this. Thank you brother
Glad I could help!
What resonated most with you?
@@the.kleyko “Capitalism with a Conscious” I was told by a coworker that you can’t become a millionaire and still be Christ-like….I know I can but it’s hard to describe. Seeing your video was a sign to keep pushing forward and that it is possible without having to lose self respect.
@@philiphugh1785 When I have millions of dollars I'll definitely not be spending them all on myself.
Being altruistic and spending it on others is way more fun anyway.
The power to make the world a better plays lies a lot in money.
Dope video bro you're really wise. Put it like this, the whole point of spirituality is to realize oneself and to align with the divine energy that created you along with everything else, but how does this divine energy create? By simply wanting to create, to evolve, to experience, to live. So when it comes to the reality of capitalism you have to understand that it's the same energy that also birthed it through us, so if you are truly aligned you can definently use money to expand yourself and to help others. Like jesus said "i must work the works of him that sent me" and if money is the way of work just do you
I didn't think I would gain much value from this video, but as I continued watching I was blown away by how insightful this video was. Thank you.
For the past year i have strived to become a narcissist while also being self-aware because i think both can be true at the same time and the automaton text where you explain yourself explains what i was thinking of in 2023 and this year pretty well
Narcissus fell in love with his image, not his own self. Self love is liberating unlike narcissism. Self love makes us not only empathise with others, but to love them as we love ourselves, much like how it is described in the Oxherding Tales in Zen Buddhism.
A bankrupt and hollow spirituality pushes you to embrace the flows of the market. But true spirituality sees you embrace the Eternal Dao, the Dao which cannot be named.
Narcissism is a personality that compensates for a absent functional personality. It's a disconnection from reality and to live in a constant state of delusion. Why would you want to willingly become that? Cluster B are failed human beings.
Needed this. Thank you 🙏
You can't be selfless without first being selfish, Abraham Maslow talked about this in his hierchy of needs theory
Thank you, this was very helpful. Stay blessed brother 💚
I really needed this confirmation. Thanks much......
You will eventually get what you desire. If you desire the material you will get it. This life or another. And if you’re happy with them, good for you, I’m glad you’ve found something to hold on.
But for many of us the meaning of spirituality is to let go of the desire for the physical realm so that we will ascend to where we desire.. Something to keep in mind.
Yes. I agree. But I am not sure if this is feasible for most. Enlightenment is a real thing but it takes thousands of hours of meditation mastery to make it happen. It's probably one of the most difficult things to do but people struggle with social media addiction and eating healthy. So even if the end goal is transcendence I belief even most spiritual people need to get their body in order first.
It's precisely this resistance to the physical realm that is in the way of most peoples peace.
you cant ascend to a higher plane through a desire to get there
Love the honesty
Thanks! I am glad when it can be seen.
Amazing reflections! I was also going about those thoughts lately of sleflesness and how can I become more valuable to those around me (not with the narcicist intent, of course). I like the last points you made, and I see those as:
1. Enjoy the ride, not the destination (because you might not even get there);
2. This is a tricky one... when people are desperate, I think that it would not take much for them to provide unworthy things, since that in this world, money provides you with the most primal needs, such as food and shelter, so I would not judge someone providing automatic toilet seat openers or useless stuff like that in order to survive... but it's important to be conscious about it and try to make an impact;
3. And yes of course. I actually always felt like something never made anyone really secure, you know? I've been very fortunate in my life, now I'm struggling financially, but overall that didn't dictate my happiness, because in the end, happiness comes from within, from the development of the spirit.
🤔You've reflected very deeply on these issues, and thanks for sharing your perspective. I've myself explored the SD model for years through Ken Wilber's work, and while I still resonate largely with it, I do see them more as "traps" (as you called them) than stages.
As there can only be "one master", so we do have to be decisive in what motive is leading us. In our current world, we do need money to survive, and this pushes us to compromise. In a future world, hopefully, we will be working purely from and for Spirit.
Money is just byproduct of the true spiritual value we create for life ⚓
That's why we are all millionaires now the true source energy core connected ones together ✊🏽💙
if you want some examples where this works, think of how many times youve seen content where a small business owner does a project for free, or does free work on the side while running a business that makes money, then using the free work and paid work for content in the digital age to bring more eyeballs. if there ever was a pure example of early stage Spiritual Capitalism that would be it in my opinion. and if we can apply that kind of mindset of ambition and getting paid, with the consciousness and humility. we can bring back the golden ages in a manner that benefits everyone and everyone is working cohesively to function as a society. it also solves a lot of the typical criticisms of capitalism as we know it today. as most of those criticisms boil down to greedy actors manipulating others in harmful ways to consolidate their own wealth.
Great video
Resonated, Subscribed.
Don t know how youtube suggested me this but it was about time finding someone talking about a more important issue eroding society than capitalism. Spirituality, morals, ethics and all those inerverse things are really the most important things to discuss to save an individual or a society. Capitalism doesn t corrupt the soul, lack of morals and healthy spirit destroys the soul and in turn destroys everything and everyone in a society, and capitalism too
Definition of capitalism from wikipedia "Capitalism is an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit", in short people are free to do bussines and owning private stuff. What capitalism never proposes is a moral and ethical framework. That remains to be implemented freely by each individual, be it bad morals or destructive ethics. The problem with people judging capitalism is they act like it has bad morals and ethics, when in fact it has none, never promised morals and never will have. It just says "do business freely as you see fit"
that last part in the definition "operation for profit", profit doesn t mean necessary monetary profit, not even the term capital doesn t necessarily mean only monetary capital. For example, you work as a gardener but you re not payed that much, it s just decent money, but you have the option to work in a corporation and make 10x the money. But you chose gardening because you see working in nature, getting dirty, growing beautiful living plants is way more profitable for yourself than just some money made by working in a soulless. Profit and capital is about value, and money isn t the only thing people find valuable. Value is more intrinsic element than money . Feeling that satisfaction, gratefulness and wholeness from gardening is a better profit gain for you tofind valuable in your life. And that is as valid as to be someone who prefers the desk corpo job with meetings, mails and executive politics cause you like the abstract work, the social game, you also like the money and you don t like to get dirty, borderline germophobe and have pollen allergies.
Institutions like religion, culture, art, philosophy, tradition etc are the ones providing the morals and ethics for adjusting the kind of values each individual has. A materialistic and hedonistic culture with no belief in a higher power, beauty, sacrifice, responsability is exactly the kind of culture that makes people value just money and which gives the right incentives and excuses to individuals to value greediness, exploitation, deceiving, manipulation, addiction etc.. A society won t degenerate because of capitalism, it will degenerate because those bad values will dictate the rules of the game. Capitalism it s just the playing field. Societies crumbled in other systems like socialism exactly because of degenerate morals, ask the russians and east europeans. The irony of socialism is that it's a moral system in which its proponents are pretending to be an economic system. Moral systems can't just be implemented and transplanted at a snap of finger in diverse and diferent cultures and people. If you ask me it doesn t fit in any kind of human society, it (might) works only in hive animals like ants and bees
Capitalism doesn t dictate that you should work for money or gold, it just let's you free in an open field where you can cultivate your thing and exchange it with other people that find valuable the same things as you do. That s why as a gardener you can trade your services for food and shelter all your life, but each individual of this society decided that using money as currency is a worthy convenience.
But the problem with that freedom capitalism gives each one is that corrupt morals and ethics can easily hijack the whole market and even the whole economic system. That s why a good foundation of morals and ethics are extremely essential towards having a sustainable society. If capitalism gives you a playing field in a stadium then players with no morals and conduit will slowly erode the whole thing into the ground. So i find it very useful for you to talk about capitalism in a good way cause it desperately needs, but it's very excelent to talk about profound stuff like spirit and morals, that s where the meat of the world is
"Get rich quick" that's where i stopped 😂😂
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You are more important than anything else. When you were born, the cosmos was created, but you are not separate from it, or from all its contents, or this planet, society, city, family unit etc. These all come back to the one, that is what makes them eternal.
I love the idea of spiritual capitalism. The first thing I thought when at the beginning of the video is that selfless and selfish kinda complement themselves, like the Yin-Yang symbol
great video!
This is an important video , thank you!
This is a work of art
This was so useful
Thank you
Wow nice video!
Everything has good and bad
Good video, thank you
This video was really helpful, i am in a transition very similar to what you describe
The title of this is an oxymoron and proof we are truly living in the kali yuga
Its not. Its just understand what is which one sphere by they real definition...
Capitalism is free market, voluntarism and respect to the others property, its made to facilitate the collaboration. Because we are obviously material beings that depends of resources to live.
Spiritualism is connection to your self, or in other words, notice that capitalism and resources are not you, these things are only tools, and you are who create the benefits and harms.
Ok, go cry in your basement about capitalism and people hungrier than you
@@vastoaspecto
"its made to facilitate the collaboration"
LOOOOOOOOOOL 🤣
Stop trying to hurt his fragile mega ego. it cannot be done. I noticed he didn't like your comment. Next time confirm his delusional mega ego and you might get a like. Stay Blessed 🕉️☸️☯️♾️🕊️💛🙏🏻
I love how you think, thank you for this wonderful video 🎉 (and i hope that part about you transcending the turquoise stage was sarcasm, it seemed pretty dry)
i believe it was from the pause and facial expression, or at least i hope so too lol
Thank you hahahaahah
It would be so funny if it wasn't
Why is wealth inherently selfish. If it’s done honestly with consideration for others, it becomes a situation of game theory. I help you succeed so you can help me succeed. When I have a lot of wealth, I can give more generously, which helps the less fortunate get on their feet where they can participate in the economy, allowing them to help me succeed more as I help them succeed.
It’s all a boomerang at the end of the day. If you throw dishonesty and theft to get rich, you will eventually be manipulated and robbed. Maybe not today, but eventually. If you throw generosity and honesty, you will have people you can trust, and your investments will be stable. Even if everything fails apart, you will have people to have your back if you were constantly there for other people.
Spiritual Capitalism sounds like a great way to get poor fast. Why would a good person be more successful than a bad person? People who make products that fix needs end up out of business. Corporations that create problems and sell the "solution" are much more profitable.
@@CCRUEnthusist Spot on! 👍
Also Kleyko, I would love to see your thoughts on the 'hustle culture', if you could make a video about that!
How do you relate to hustle culture?
@@the.kleyko I always felt aligned to it, but in 2023 was a year that changed my perspective on a lot of things, about how I consume, how I see others that are on the top... etc. Fact is, this culture can become inhumane, as some sacrficice their own time and life for more profit or hardworking that will not make you fulfilled, as I once felt. It really took a toll on my mental health. Replacing realtionships for your own carrer... the list goes on.
The “law of attraction” and manifestation is largely ludicrous, but it is not entirely worthless as it is still based in the boomerang principle. Even by just thinking or wishing for something, you are throwing those desires out into the world in a way that effects your actions, and some people eventually find what they wished for coming back to them, especially when manifestation has influenced them to do the right work to get what they wanted:
Again it is largely empty and ineffective and should never be relied on, but there is an underlying boomerang principle. Throw out the right things, you will get the right results. Throw the wrong things, you’ll get bad results
I think you might actually understand the underlying principles of what the law of attraction is. Would you say that you might be a little bit hesitant to adopt it as a legit thing because of it's associations with some woowoo type people? I'm interested in your perspective genuinely.
What really matters with manifesting is that you envision yourself doing something. If you envision working hard before you do so it actually works. As long is the source of the manifestation is internally oriented.
And it's logical that when you give more you'll receive more. The energy you put in is what you get out.
Envisioning can be a good psychological tool. And the boomerang principle is in a way correct.
The issue comes with trying to manifest getting a car, or getting a partner for life or whatever as if you are praying to the universe, as if it can understand you. Then it becomes somewhat delusional.
So as long as you envision *you doing something* to get what you want, it will actually work. So you don't envision "having a nice car" but you envision "waking up motivated to go to work"
You are telling your psychology what the real next step is and wiring dopamine towards it.
Run from what's comfortable. Forget safety. Live where you fear to live. Destroy your reputation. Be notorious. I have tried prudent planning long enough. From now on I'll be mad.
-Rumi
I disagree, if you run in the opposite direction, let go of the models and ideas structures that society has imparted on you from the moment you're born until this moment, you can see that you can be free without having to be rich
The great way is open to those with no preferences
And it's not pushing away who you are, it's pushing away who you are not and realizing your true identity
You're not who you think you are. And if you think you need money to be happy, you're not a thought so drop that one too
When you don't need money to be happy. You are free to pursue money. 💚
So aligned, great job bro !
How did you manage to create this path in your personal life ?
There is a lot behind it. We can talk in my discord group if you want.
@@the.kleyko sure i definitely have a project that could catch your interest !
i'm on stage black
Love da vid had my own theroy around this for a while, the mixtape "Hi this is flume" awakened it.
Anyways, how does one codition themselves to waking up in the morning??? xd
this is flume is a good mixtape. I've known it for years but never knew the lyrics are about this.
(you condition yourself to wake up in the morning when you go to bed at night Xp)
@@the.kleyko Not the lyrics but the theme is a blend of capitalism nature fractals and spiritualism
This is the Way 👁
thanks man
very helpfull & insightful video
Glad it was helpful!
You calling yourself programmed was scary. But everything we do is a program. Deep.
cool Video
There should be some comprehensive study on how capitalist realism corrupts spiritual pathways like this.
One day once we Abolish capitalism people will be free to just be and find self fulfilment in a world that is kind and selfless to everyone. I really hope this is the trajectory the human race is headed towards. Even if it won't be in my lifetime.
More like if we all enter the Intelligent computer simulation bliss matrix.
Helpful video, thanks!
Now back to drugs and doomscrolling😁
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Capitalism is the wrong framework for what you were speaking of. The reason for all these things we appreciate was industrialization, government incentives and shareholder tech culture. Without people who are willing to invest in money losing companies for higher growth rates, hoping their shares will explode in a bubble and make them rich when they sell the shares. We could've had even faster tech advancement in a different system.
That's not capitalism. That's patronage.
Capitalism is not corporatism, capitalism is free market... People voluntarily cooperating with each other to produce more abundance and prosperity, both for themselves and for those who benefit from the production.
"Capital" is not the resource itself, it comes from "capita" (head) and means 'that which is headed/managed', therefore "financial capital" means 'management of money'.
On the other hand, corporatism is about monopoly, it passes itself off as management, but it is just manipulation, market reservation. This only happens when some entity (usually the State) gives "rights" (perks) to someone in some way penalizing everyone else, as happens with state-owned companies (monopolies financed with money taken from the population), copyrights (monopolisms that prevent direct competition) and government incentives (which take resources from everyone and give them to a few).
@vastoaspecto people voluntarily give up their autonomy? Um no
Osho is the bridge
Do not conflate capitalism with markets, commerce, trade or whatever even competition and the profit motive, it is a specific system that underlies other things. Capitalism is like a bottom layer. So, most of what people associate with capitalism has nothing to do with capitalism itself. Capitalism is a specific system that exploits markets and competition and vague notion of profit motive with assumptions. You can have a lot of the stuff we associate with capitalism without an underlying system of capitalism.
Capitalism requires private ownership of the means of production, but that doesn't mean system that employs private ownership is capitalism. Why do we need a man-made system layered underneath? That invalidates many ways of being spiritual.
Brother how did you get good at speaking in front of camera
Intentioned practice
Thank you brother.🙏
what was the anime in the video?
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Though shall not be ungrateful in thse plntyfL modern times!
I think it is posible to be wealthy and spiritualy , with no money we cant survive , still money is important thing in this world and we shouldnt beleive money is root of all evil , it depends on the person it self how he gain and spend its money, it is what it is
Check out Osho's idea of Zorba The Buddha
Tfw AI models are mostly stuck in stage green
Very interesting thought
I have that Secret DVD 😂
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Dagaz
I appreciate this video . Cut the bs out werk
The idea of the sheep, and abandoned matarielized things in pursuit of greater wisdom or englightenment is just incompetent disguise as wise.
Wise people, after obtaining englightenment. I am sure they will have a high degree of intuition and this is a very huge advantage over those who don't, they can see 10 steps ahead on the market or politic chessboard. They can communicate with the spirit, they can plan and take action as they already master their mind and emotion. And hack you better work for this spiritual person since he knows what you don't know as he alchemist his pain and suffering into strength that this world don't want to deal with.
I think true spiritual people are the one like Elon Musk etc.... look at them, they seems like they are high chasing after a fleeting dream but at whatever they do, they always accomplish it. Not for a selfish reason as well, but for a better world.
If you ask me, I think God want us all to live boldly as ourselves and pursuit our dream ruthleslly.
Sure you need isolate to communicate with him, but he doesn't want you to sit still and doing nothing and call it a life, no shit, this is a waste of life. But if you are happy, then good but do not call yourself wise guru.
God is everything. God = money. I want more more money. More money = more God. 😂
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I want more everything.
3:26 how about solving problems because people don't deserve to have to pay not to experience them
how about that
this "spiritual" form of capitalism that you champion is stomach turning
Belief me, if I had a magic wand to easily rid the world of all suffering I would gladly be waving it all day. Infinite abundance of time and resources would imply a moral obligation to give for free.
This is also why the all powerful Christian concept of a god is a Pos.
Oh, the worn as ever mistaken association of capitalism and progress. Please, take note that Capitalism is not properly defined as a 'system in which stuff is produced', opposed by 'anti-producing systems'. Capitalism is defined by the strive to accumulate capital, not by it's production. The progress we've made with electronics, higher resource accessibility, among many other QoL achievements, sure happened within capitalist driven societies, yet by any means are exclusive consequences of it.
Monetary incentive is culturally induced behavior, as in many socialist experiences, and even in less aggressive capitalist regions, it is much less of a drive force. This monetary incentive directly antagonizes altruism and desire to help or be useful. This is specially true when information companies, and the market as a whole, invest shitloads of money in many forms of propaganda, to convince people that they need something more than they really do. Need or desire of specific things are not something we are born with, and it sound quite malicious advocating that the same entities that forge these desires on national or international scale and profit astronomically from it, are maybe trying to help us.
Materialism may have you think that nothing matters, but one of the consequences of socialist theory is overcoming that stage on human civilization, where many people's needs hold them back in seeking or building higher purposes, and that as a strongly bonded community, we can help each other in our pursue. The key idea is that materialism seeks to define reality and ourselves by what we perceive existing, but being past a positivism school of thought, our perception of spirituality is also a product of material and should be of value having, and thus materialism and spirituality/meaning are not contradictory.
It sounds like you've stuck yourself in conformism with the way things are, failing to figure a way out of capitalism and ultimately in need to conciliate self preservation with the many conflicts and sufferings necessary for it to work, that cooperation somehow can be sought and encouraged while individualism constantly grows in our social arrangement, and even with spirituality, just to stay sane and mentally healthy. I'm in no position of judging you for your standing, but it truly saddens me.
Appreciate this long and thoughtful comment.
There might be a future where capitalism isn't the only option. I'm well open to that. A.I is probably the best chance we will get to make scarcity a non-issue.
But even these extraordinary advancements in technology that might facilitate a better system only thrive because of the capitalist system we are under currently. It's true that not all advancements come from monetary incentive, but the most disruptive ones do.
At the current state of the world, a disruption to Capitalism would mean utter death and destruction for almost everybody alive.
I understand your disagreement is towards my Capitalist realism stance. But to belief that another economical system could possibly be made functional from the point that we are on is far removed from reality. And for an individual, is completely unpractical.
All the issues you list with capitalism are true. And there is potential for better systems ahead.
Bro, deleting my comment isn't very enlightened of you... But sincerely: hating humanity and wilfully exploiting people won't bring you what you need. I hope you find someone to hold you x
That is not what bro said at all in this video 🥸
What comment do you think I deleted where?
I commented that this is literally a villain mindset bro… and that detaching yourself from everything only serves to ruin you… you exist individually as a mind yes but you also exist externally in the memories of everyone around you… it is the latter that will be your legacy… so surely it is more in your interest to create meaningful connections by supporting your community, not exploiting them… for in exploiting them you will always be remembered as the villain who justified his actions through a web of delusions that he should be detached in order to live a meaningful life…
@@willellis6114 i agree with everything you say. The video doesn't say the opposite. I also include the understanding of the ego. There is an exploitative part of the human mind and I shed light to it. Survival requires some self centeredness. But I too belief that empathy is the way to go. That's the point of the video.
@@the.kleyko I agree that there is an exploitative side to us, and that we are embedded with the need to survive, but we need not 'survive' for there is plenty of wealth to be distributed, it is capitalism which forces us to fight to survive... Under capitalism, a tool to justify mass exploitation, markets and people driven by profit will naturally result in conflict... Empathy will always be weeded out in capitalism, for it is not profitable to be empathetic... If there exist these stark contradictions between empathy and capitalism, why not explore alternative economics instead of justifying your participation in a corrupt system with spirituality?
Appealing 🙏 but... i kinda.... money.. fuck no 💛
Ok...i thought it would be interesting video but my man has just discovered altruism and free market.
PS You know socialism make all profession so evenly profitable that people do their job to fulfill their dreams by being useful and not so the trends just because it pays more.
A bit disappointed tho 😢
This video didn't actually help me to realize anything. I don't need help knowing that capitalism and spiritualism don't conflict depending on how you go about....... What I need to know is how to actually Get shit done and learn things and figure out what I need to do. Personally I love music but I am fucking terrible at producing it and I don't have the money needed to fund my research. What I need is a mentor to guide me through things without having to go $200000 in debt.
What sucks is all these people though That have the knowledge sell courses for way higher of a price than I can afford at this shitty job Im at .... It's not that I don't have the balls to go out and start a business I literally just don't have the money to do anything........ You literally need money to make money....... The problem is all these gurus telling me to invest in certain things are always wrong...... So how the fuck am I supposed to go about my life and go about doing what I actually want if I have no means to do so....... What I need is things I can actualize not whimsical ideas I can't put into practice....
You wanted feedback
Awesome. Follow me on Discors and I'll coach you for free. 1on1 calls.
Bro the real answer is: Just do it.
When you can’t get an apartment because the rent is high, would you give up and get a shitty apartment or would you stand up, research and learn with courses and books what are basically permanent knowledge. Stop always looking on the loss and start looking on the win. As long as you make progress, everything comes at you. It takes time, be patience and delete all distractions on your phone and use it as a tool for yourself and don’t be used as a product for these companies
I hate everything about this.
you lost me when you started listing all the 'boons" of capitalism. I think all of those things are horrible for us, why would i be grateful for those?
If you think capitalism is good, I am going to assume you haven't seen poverty before.
The issues you say are true.
But there hasn't been found a solution.
If you think it's communism you are wrong. At least currently.
@@the.kleyko Define communism, and how do you think solutions are created?
Real spirituality is about eliminating the ego, and one of the best ways to do that is asceticism and voluntary poverty. I dislike the message of this video
i am unsubscribing after watching this bullshit
A comrade has fallen