This is a great review which has convinced me to buy one. I'm disabled so can't walk far, I've missed out on going out on walks with the family. But I don't want a traditional disability scooter, as they are too cumbersome for what I want [getting it through walking styles & gates], plus they are too big for manoeuvring around town/city. I only have one criticism for you, CORNERING with the inside peddle DOWN!!! Before I permanently tore my back at work aged 16, I was looking at road racing, I had contact with the then-England Olympic cycle coach/manager who was helping me with cycle parts & techniques. One thing that is a BIG, NO, NO is cornering with the inside peddle down. At worst the pedals should be level, at BEST the inside peddle should be UP!!! Try it & see how much more lean you can get, especially when going downhill fast & cornering. Keep up the good work, be safe & keep the rubber down, thanks!!!
Thanks for helping me choose, just bought this bike. I knew it would be big, but it is HUGE. My version has a crappy black and white LCD display, no options menu, no extra customisation, just bare basics. Besides that, I love it.
It is a bit bigger than it looks like! Sucks about the display though...did you ask them about it? I think I got one of the first Ovias that made it over here, so it's possible they swapped displays for production, but they're using the same one on the new Trax and Ranger, so I would see if they could send you one ;) If you call their local US number, you can talk to the service team in Utah and they might be able to help. Worth a shot at least!
Great video with precise and extensive explanations and a great load of information. Congratulations! I'm now ready to go purchase the Ovia in Malaga (Spain) where there is currently a Cyrusher exhibition/Show . Thank you so much for the hard work, energetic Dutchman!
Hey there! Thanks for the kind words :) And I had hoped the integrated taillight would be coming. I haven't had tat 100% confirmed for me, but it would make total sense here!
I deleted two comments written when I purchased the bike in 2023. I have an Ovia. I had some problems, but Cyrusher kept sending me whatever I requested. I am 80 years old. As of today (August 10, 2024), I have put on 3,380 miles. The bike runs smoothly. It is 105 pounds, and for an old man like me, I have difficulty getting the bike up the ramp to my KUAT bike rack. I ride with a friend who helps. And now I will get another Ovia so my son can ride with me. I would like the QUEST, which has a mid-drive. But at $4,300, I will wait till prices come down. But I asked Cyrusher today to have the QUEST with a Gates Belt. That would be my dream bike.
@@Ennovation Well, I didn't see this, but it was for me! I am also purchasing an e-bike for my nephew, who moved back to Michigan. I will buy it in late spring of 2025-they usually have cold weather and snow!
The suspension is not what is causing you to sway instead of turn. The higher speed and fatter tire is what turns your bike into a motorcycle/BMX sway/lean.
Nice review love this bike how is it for off road woods trail riding? I am look for a step thru ebike with good power that can handle rooted up trails and a few small jumps nothing major. I don't care about peddling much and would be using it half the time off road. I need the best suspension I can get because I have health issues. Was thinking this bike or possibly a ariel rider x class 52v step thru not sure which bike would be more comfortable to ride for me I'm 55 and road dirt bike all my life but just want an ebike know for some cruising and fun. Thanks
Nice review, Ennovation. I really enjoy all the detail incorporated into a very well produced presentation. This looks like a really high-quality e-bike. Enjoyed your take on the bike. The only question I have involves the pedal assist function. Can you change the settings for each pedal assist level for top mph in each level? Can you add additional levels? I customized those settings on my current e-bike (Magicycle Cruiser Step-Through). What great brake action this bike has! Very impressive. Hydraulic brakes really make the difference and that Logan brand seems very well designed. I also like the better ride this one seems to have with the extra suspension. I rode 2700+ miles on my e-bike this year. E-bikes allows us older riders to keep getting out. Thank you for this thorough review!
Okay sweet! I know that's been a question around here about whether it comes with those or not. Looks like the newer models do, and Cyrusher is taking care of their customers who got the earlier version maybe.
No criticism of the video; they're always very professional and best on ebikes! One comment on the OVIA design though....Seems that the welcomed bottle anchors on the battery post will restrict the step through room for your foot if there's a bottle installed. Should have been higher but that would cover the OVIA name which obviously took preference. Shame.
I appreciate the compliemtn on the video! :) And you're totally right! I generally don't attach a water bottle, so I will show that in the specs (and in the video of course) but thinking through with you there, it would definitely take away from the standover height. That's an excellent idea moving it higher up on the frame! Get the functionality of a bottle cage, but not lose out on the valuable step-over height either. I appreciate you perspective on that!
I love all of your reviews! This one is special to me! The other day, you told me the seat height was 35". If I took off 2" from the seat post, to get it to the lowest height, it would be 33". I have a 30" inseam. I'm 5'2". I think it will be too tall for me. No integrated tail light, wide turns and the throttle connected to the PAS are all negative points. All things I could get used too, but for the price, I want to love the bike and not have to get used to it. I'm disappointed, because I love the color, the looks, the better battery, etc. compared to the Kommoda, but I want me feet to be on the ground. How tall is your wife? Would she ride this one, like she did the Kommoda to compare them for me? I think the peddle bottoms out on her on the Kommoda, when she hit those roots in the trail and that's why she didn't care for the Kommoda. She loves her Rad mini 2. Why did Rad stop making that popular bike? So disappointing, as I would have purchased one, months ago.
I'm sorry, it wasn't your wife that rode the Kommoda, it was Mr. Citizen's wife! I apologize! I just watched your video, again. Your's are so professionally done! Thank you!
No worries Gail! Yes, I remember when Mrs. Citizen rode the Kommoda! My wife is 5'4", and it is probably a bit too tall for her to put her feet flat on the ground. Most people have that issue, and to ride the step-through frame, generally you can get around that by dismounting to the front, and standing over the frame. And honestly on most of these fat tire bikes, if I put the seat where it is a good, sound riding position, I also have to dismount to the front. I don't love that, but it's just a technique to use on the bigger bikes, especially with the ease of the step-through frame.
@@Ennovation my regular bike is an older 26” male Trek! With that one, I had to get completely off by swinging my leg over the back of the bike. I didn’t like it, but that’s what we had, at the time. I got that Trek down a month ago, to see how I’d do. It’s true, that you may never forget how to ride a bike, but I forgot how I used to get off the bike!!! I had to keep riding, until I figured it out! It wasn’t pretty! I never realized, until that day, as I laid on the grass with the bike, 🫣 that it had a front suspension!! Or maybe I forgot. It’s 25+ years old! We won’t mention my age! 🤭
@@Ennovation so, if your wife, at 5’4” has to dismount to the front, than I will surely have to, too, at 5’2”! I didn’t think I’d have to on the Kommoda. Bummer. Being short, I’m used to improvising! I can do it!!! 💪🏻. Which bike is your wife’s favorite? Does she have one??
I have an instep of 30" too and can not ride Kommoda with the seat at its lowest. Seat height is from the ground .. Instep is from the pedals...sort of! Buy KOMMODA and save £400!
My arms are a bit shorter than average. What is the adjustability of the handlebars? Is there any height adjustment at the stem or just forward/back rotation of the handlebars?
great video thx - from the video it looks like the rear rack payload is limited to 25kg? that would mean not being able to carry a young adult at the back (maybe with a padded seat) even the the overall payload is below 150kg. is that right? Thanks
Great review! This is the best looking 20" bike with full suspension on the market. I'd like to know how do you change the speed settings to increase the speed to 28mph. Thanks!
Please explain how the Ovia with a maximum seat height of 37.5" is for riders up to 6'6" while the Kommoda with a maximum seat height of 41.5" is only rated for riders up to 6'0". Is it just the handlebar height is higher on the Ovia whereas you could just add a stem riser to the Kommoda?
Hahaha yeah I totally get how that doesn’t sound quite right. The Kommoda does have the adjustable stem, so that helps I imagine, but also, the way Cyrusher measures their seat height is from the floor, whereas most people measure that to the pedal at full extension. So that also may be a factor. And if I were 6’6” I imagine I’d be more comfortable on the Ovia. But that’s just my hot take. Lol
@@Ennovation So you are saying that if you had about 6" less legroom for a taller person that would be more comfortable. I sat on the Kommoda and at full seat extension my toes just barely hit the ground. How would someone be more comfortable with 4" less seat height and pedals that are higher off the ground? You would almost have your knees in your mouth. I am 6'4" and have a 36" inseam. Both bikes measure the seat height the same way, floor to top of seat.
Bravo for your test of the ovia bike, can you specify if the assistance is managed by a force sensor or a cadence sensor? How does it behave at startup ? There is a moment of waiting when you press the pedals? Thank you
You know I look like a really nice bike until you told everybody that the brake light didn't integrate with the main battery that's cheap that's just cheaply-made for a bike that they probably want over $2,000 for if it doesn't have a brake light I'm not buying it that's terrible
Good morning, I love this model, I live in Italy. Would you be so kind as to tell me the size of the hole of the luggage rack of the bicycle, I want to know what size and size of screws it would fit? Please I will be very grateful.
Hi, I'm thinking of buying this model but I want to know what types of accessories could be compatible with this model. Like the mirrors and the trunk of the helmet. I'm writing from Italy. Thank you very much
Just received my Ovia a few days ago all in all pretty good the rear shock has been a pain trying to get it aired up correctly one thing I do not like about it is the brakes sounds like you’re rubbing the rotors with sandpaper they stop OK but not very smooth it does have a functioning brake light and tail light which is a good thing Other than that it’s pretty good power is good but not as good as my aerial rider
Glad you're enjoying it! Yeah those Ariel Riders are pretty fast bikes! Definitely more geared for the torque and speed than these bikes, but they have their place too :P
Looks good, I liked the look of the Kommoda but the low bottom bracket and the throttle being tied to PAS ran me off. I would like to see a hill climb test.
Hey Gary! Yes for me, the low bottom bracket was the main thing that was a miss on the Kommoda for me. They fixed that here on the Ovia. One thing I didn't really touch on in the review was the folding pedals on the Ovia. They're fine, but would definitely upgrade these to a flatter pedal, and you probably wouldn't need the folding aspect anyway. It performs well on hills, on par with other 750W motors, gearing is okay for the task here.
@@Ennovation I like the 98nm torque of the Majicycle Ocelot Pro but I also want the full suspension of the Cyrusher Ovia. The Ovia has a smaller battery and less torque, but I would like to see them on the same hill. My wife and I are large people, and we live and travel in mountainous country. With that suspension, the Ovia would only need to climb just well enough.
@@garysanchezphotography I'm also a big fan or the torquier motors. And I totally get how getting the level of comfort from a full-suspension air setup would be something you might sacrifice a little bit of torque for.
Great looking ebike and upgrade from the Kommoda...but for the price tag, and for safety of the rider, an integrated taillight/ brakelight should have been standard equipment. Come on Cyrusher, common sense and safety go alot further than cutting corners. Instead of waiting for the next edition or model, start adding this feature on the bike now and for the people that have already purchased one, offer to send this update free of charge and you'll probably sell more of this model.
Ovia at the moment is £400 more to buy than Kommoda which is still a fabulous bike; turns better than Ovia and has brake light and wired tail light over Ovia. Cyrusher claim up to 50 miles range for Kommoda and 43 for Ovia. So one pays your money and has the choice. At the moment...
Oh yeah…that’s basically southern Canada. Lol I’m Texans we still have some decent riding weather. We might be out for a few weeks in January, but after that we’ll probably be back to business. You still going to be doing some reviews over winter?
Understood! What brands are the next 2? Anything exciting? If you care to share, of course. No need to give it away if you’re prepping for a big reveal. Just curious as a reviewer.
Excelent review. I would love to see a real world review of the range. For instance 8n pas 3. Srt of an average for the bikes you test, but once again great review. Thanks
Hey Steven! It's been awhile, my dude! Hope everything is going well for ya up in Colorado! I will see if I can't get in some more range tests on the Ovia and pass that info along to ya. We recently took it out for a gig, and we went about 10 miles, and only saw a 10% decrease in battery. It was alot of stop and go, sidewalk stuff for the most part, and a combination of throttle and PAS 5. I like to go fast. lol So, as far as an indicator, that was a pretty sweet sign!
@@StevenScholten Oh man! I didn't look closely at your thumbnail picture, but I have a buddy who shares your exact name in Colorado. I was very surprised he would be looking at Ebikes though...so now it's all making sense :P Sorry for the confusion!
Faites- nous s'il vous plaît, des vrais tests de conduite du vélo électrique Ovia 2023, sur les routes de compagne et de ville, une vraie vidéo qui révélera la vraie rusticité du vélo, une vidéo de 10- 15 minutes pour attirer plus de clientèle, surtout en France et en Allemagne.
Hello j'ai interpellé Arnaud le mobeur pour qu'il nous fasse un retour sur ce vélo, c'est prévu mais pas pour tout de suite car ça commence à lui faire un budget à tester tout ces vélos !!! , cordialement
@@sylchatzen3709 Guten Tag. Merci pour votre réponse amicale. Nous vivons en Allemagne et nous voulons acheter des vrais vélos électrique moderne, solide , rustique qui résiste aux intempéries et qui roulent vites en route, dans les compagnes et partout , surtout, pour aller au travail. Par ailleurs. nous avons compris votre réponse. Nous allons attendre avec patience le test du vélo électrique Cyrusher Ovia 2023 comparé au Cyrusher Kommoda 2023. Merci. Amicalement.
ReBonjour l'Allemagne ! Pour la solidité il faut savoir que les prix chinois forcément vont essayer de gagner sur certains points, par exemple le planétaire dans le moteur est pas toujours bien graissé et les engrenages du planétaire sont en plastique pour une raison économique et aussi pour atténuer le bruit des engrenages, des tutos sur TH-cam explique comment remplacer les 3 engrenages en plastique par des produits en acier bien plus solide (voir aliexpress ou Amazon) avec un bon graissage au lithium ou graphite la durée de vie du moteur sera prolongé sans soucis.... Le châssis par contre est bien solide et en ajoutant un fond de jante anti crevaison le vélo devrait s'en porter mieux....
Hey Jonathan! I would say 6'2" would probably be a decent fit for you! Cyrusher says 5'3"-6'6" and at 6'6" that would be pushing it, mainly due to the reach and handlebar setup, but I imagine your height would be a good fit here. They also say it is rated for up to 150kg, so you should be good there as well. All in all, I imagine it would be a pretty comfortable fit, and a fun machine to zip around on.
The Ovia looks like a mid engine bike, like with the bosch drivetrains to me, to bad that it is a rear wheel hub, like on the Kommoda. The Kommoda rides nice and comfortable, but the hillclimp performance is very limited.
Definitely. It does depend on what state you're in, but for most places 28MPH top speed, and 750W motor are all considered bicycles, and follow bicycle rules.
to bad they mounted the rear rack to the swing arm...instead to the frame. So every thing you have on the rack gets banged around, instead of benefitting from the suspension system.
Honestly much to expensive compared to the Commoda. Nothing real better, but much more expensive. Higher ground clearance = costs nothing more. So in my mind newer but not really better.
Un bon vélo malheureusement, il manque des clignotants pour la sécurité routière , des rétroviseurs et une plastique de protection devant contre les vents quand on descend les pentes. Améliorer ces choses et la puissance du Moteur, une autonomie à 200Km pour une seule charge etc..En Allemagne, les gens aiment et adorent rouler avec les vélos électriques moderne qui roulent vites pour arriver vite au travail et faire des voyages à vélo électrique pendant les week-end, des vélos électriques moderne solide, rustique, qui résistent à toutes sortes d'intempéries et qui roulent vites en circulation routière, dans les compagnes, en piste cyclable etc.. Une amélioration du vélo électrique moderne avec des bons paramètres en terme de puissance, d'autonomie, qualité et prix ne peut que attirer plus de clientèle Germanique et dans l'ensemble de l'ensemble de l'Europe, à l'heure où les gens sont assoiffés de rouler avec des vélos électriques moderne qui manifestent plus de puissance et d'autonomie en route pour aller travailler, car le vélo électrique moderne en Allemagne, c'est l'avenir du déplacement pour arriver travail et faire des voyages, utiliser moins la voiture. Déjà, beaucoup des Entreprises industrielle allemande en Allemagne, encouragent les travailleurs à rouler plus avec le vélo électrique moderne. IL ne reste qu'à améliorer progressivement, la qualité de la production industrielle de ces vélos électriques moderne pour attirer plus de la clientèle en Europe.
Hey Tim! Do you feel that it really is a big deal? Or I made it a bigger deal than it actually was? ;) It's one of those things I usually point out when it's different from a traditional bike, and although when you're going at speed, it definitely isn't much of a factor, maneuvering it around the garage, or turning at slow speeds (to maneuver around objects, or make the turn onto a sidewalk) I did notice that I had to make the turns wider to accomodate for the lack of movement there. Definitely not a deal breaker, but just something I like to mention for people who wouldn't get a chance to test ride it, should they order it directly to their house.
@@Ennovation nah its not a big deal you just learn to lift the rear wheel up by the seat and turn it around faster. its also not a problem because virtually nobody is going to be doing any slow speed technical rocky trails on this bike where they have to do extremely tight turns haha
Hey there! Thanks for stopping by and watching the review. I think they’re going with 750watt motors due to the legislation coming down the pipe that will enforce the class 3 motor power requirements. But, I’m also a big fan of those 1k+ motors so I hear ya!
Bro, come on. That's 105,600 feet! Or, just a tad over 90,514 Large Pepperoni Pizzas from Papa Johns. You can't it's nothing. It's something! The bike could go further though! I mean if they upgraded the battery first. ;)
I noticed you didn't mention at all who this bike is made for in height. You completely ignored this fact even though it was one of your headings. What an ignorant way to go about making a video. Just completely ignore one of the main things that people ask about. A big 👎down for me.
Hi Liz! Super fair point! We deserve the thumbs down, and we look to do better in the future! For the measurements, we always have those in the description, GEOMETRY MEASUREMENTS: 20.50" Reach, 18" Stand Over Height, 29" Minimum Saddle Height, 33.5" Maximum Saddle Height, 28" Width, 49" Wheel Base, 71" Length The two main things to look at when deciding what sized person will fit on this bike would be the standover and the reach, then the min/max saddle distances. Hope this helps! :)
@@Ennovation Thank you for that. Sorry about the thumbs down. I only said about the height because I am 5ft 10 with an inseam of 34 inches. That is always my main thing I look for. Good video now you have answered my question 😁
This is a great review which has convinced me to buy one. I'm disabled so can't walk far, I've missed out on going out on walks with the family. But I don't want a traditional disability scooter, as they are too cumbersome for what I want [getting it through walking styles & gates], plus they are too big for manoeuvring around town/city. I only have one criticism for you, CORNERING with the inside peddle DOWN!!! Before I permanently tore my back at work aged 16, I was looking at road racing, I had contact with the then-England Olympic cycle coach/manager who was helping me with cycle parts & techniques. One thing that is a BIG, NO, NO is cornering with the inside peddle down. At worst the pedals should be level, at BEST the inside peddle should be UP!!! Try it & see how much more lean you can get, especially when going downhill fast & cornering. Keep up the good work, be safe & keep the rubber down, thanks!!!
Thanks for helping me choose, just bought this bike. I knew it would be big, but it is HUGE. My version has a crappy black and white LCD display, no options menu, no extra customisation, just bare basics. Besides that, I love it.
It is a bit bigger than it looks like! Sucks about the display though...did you ask them about it? I think I got one of the first Ovias that made it over here, so it's possible they swapped displays for production, but they're using the same one on the new Trax and Ranger, so I would see if they could send you one ;) If you call their local US number, you can talk to the service team in Utah and they might be able to help. Worth a shot at least!
Great video with precise and extensive explanations and a great load of information. Congratulations! I'm now ready to go purchase the Ovia in Malaga (Spain) where there is currently a Cyrusher exhibition/Show . Thank you so much for the hard work, energetic Dutchman!
Thanks for the kind words, Isabel!
I have heard that the next release of these bikes will have the integrated taillight. Thanks for the awesome review. You always do such a great job!
Hey there! Thanks for the kind words :) And I had hoped the integrated taillight would be coming. I haven't had tat 100% confirmed for me, but it would make total sense here!
I deleted two comments written when I purchased the bike in 2023. I have an Ovia. I had some problems, but Cyrusher kept sending me whatever I requested. I am 80 years old. As of today (August 10, 2024), I have put on 3,380 miles. The bike runs smoothly. It is 105 pounds, and for an old man like me, I have difficulty getting the bike up the ramp to my KUAT bike rack. I ride with a friend who helps. And now I will get another Ovia so my son can ride with me. I would like the QUEST, which has a mid-drive. But at $4,300, I will wait till prices come down. But I asked Cyrusher today to have the QUEST with a Gates Belt. That would be my dream bike.
Hey George! Happy early birthday! ;) How did your nephew react to it?? Was it for him, or for you?
@@Ennovation Well, I didn't see this, but it was for me! I am also purchasing an e-bike for my nephew, who moved back to Michigan. I will buy it in late spring of 2025-they usually have cold weather and snow!
@@GeorgeAlexa Awesome! How are you liking it so far? Any complaints?
The suspension is not what is causing you to sway instead of turn. The higher speed and fatter tire is what turns your bike into a motorcycle/BMX sway/lean.
Nice review love this bike how is it for off road woods trail riding? I am look for a step thru ebike with good power that can handle rooted up trails and a few small jumps nothing major. I don't care about peddling much and would be using it half the time off road. I need the best suspension I can get because I have health issues. Was thinking this bike or possibly a ariel rider x class 52v step thru not sure which bike would be more comfortable to ride for me I'm 55 and road dirt bike all my life but just want an ebike know for some cruising and fun. Thanks
This looks like such a fun bike! And man… can I just say, your intro is epic! Love the music and the vibe! #vroomvroom
It is very fun! Thanks for the kind words on the intro!
Nice review, Ennovation. I really enjoy all the detail incorporated into a very well produced presentation. This looks like a really high-quality e-bike. Enjoyed your take on the bike. The only question I have involves the pedal assist function. Can you change the settings for each pedal assist level for top mph in each level? Can you add additional levels? I customized those settings on my current e-bike (Magicycle Cruiser Step-Through). What great brake action this bike has! Very impressive. Hydraulic brakes really make the difference and that Logan brand seems very well designed. I also like the better ride this one seems to have with the extra suspension. I rode 2700+ miles on my e-bike this year. E-bikes allows us older riders to keep getting out. Thank you for this thorough review!
I just brought this Ovia and Cyrusher sent me an up dated controller and a rear light come brake light, Perfect.
Okay sweet! I know that's been a question around here about whether it comes with those or not. Looks like the newer models do, and Cyrusher is taking care of their customers who got the earlier version maybe.
No criticism of the video; they're always very professional and best on ebikes!
One comment on the OVIA design though....Seems that the welcomed bottle anchors on the battery post will restrict the step through room for your foot if there's a bottle installed. Should have been higher but that would cover the OVIA name which obviously took preference. Shame.
I appreciate the compliemtn on the video! :) And you're totally right! I generally don't attach a water bottle, so I will show that in the specs (and in the video of course) but thinking through with you there, it would definitely take away from the standover height. That's an excellent idea moving it higher up on the frame! Get the functionality of a bottle cage, but not lose out on the valuable step-over height either. I appreciate you perspective on that!
I love all of your reviews! This one is special to me! The other day, you told me the seat height was 35". If I took off 2" from the seat post, to get it to the lowest height, it would be 33". I have a 30" inseam. I'm 5'2". I think it will be too tall for me. No integrated tail light, wide turns and the throttle connected to the PAS are all negative points. All things I could get used too, but for the price, I want to love the bike and not have to get used to it. I'm disappointed, because I love the color, the looks, the better battery, etc. compared to the Kommoda, but I want me feet to be on the ground. How tall is your wife? Would she ride this one, like she did the Kommoda to compare them for me? I think the peddle bottoms out on her on the Kommoda, when she hit those roots in the trail and that's why she didn't care for the Kommoda. She loves her Rad mini 2. Why did Rad stop making that popular bike? So disappointing, as I would have purchased one, months ago.
I'm sorry, it wasn't your wife that rode the Kommoda, it was Mr. Citizen's wife! I apologize! I just watched your video, again. Your's are so professionally done! Thank you!
No worries Gail! Yes, I remember when Mrs. Citizen rode the Kommoda! My wife is 5'4", and it is probably a bit too tall for her to put her feet flat on the ground. Most people have that issue, and to ride the step-through frame, generally you can get around that by dismounting to the front, and standing over the frame. And honestly on most of these fat tire bikes, if I put the seat where it is a good, sound riding position, I also have to dismount to the front. I don't love that, but it's just a technique to use on the bigger bikes, especially with the ease of the step-through frame.
@@Ennovation my regular bike is an older 26” male Trek! With that one, I had to get completely off by swinging my leg over the back of the bike. I didn’t like it, but that’s what we had, at the time. I got that Trek down a month ago, to see how I’d do. It’s true, that you may never forget how to ride a bike, but I forgot how I used to get off the bike!!! I had to keep riding, until I figured it out! It wasn’t pretty! I never realized, until that day, as I laid on the grass with the bike, 🫣 that it had a front suspension!! Or maybe I forgot. It’s 25+ years old! We won’t mention my age! 🤭
@@Ennovation so, if your wife, at 5’4” has to dismount to the front, than I will surely have to, too, at 5’2”! I didn’t think I’d have to on the Kommoda. Bummer. Being short, I’m used to improvising! I can do it!!! 💪🏻. Which bike is your wife’s favorite? Does she have one??
I have an instep of 30" too and can not ride Kommoda with the seat at its lowest. Seat height is from the ground .. Instep is from the pedals...sort of!
Buy KOMMODA and save £400!
My arms are a bit shorter than average. What is the adjustability of the handlebars? Is there any height adjustment at the stem or just forward/back rotation of the handlebars?
great video thx - from the video it looks like the rear rack payload is limited to 25kg? that would mean not being able to carry a young adult at the back (maybe with a padded seat) even the the overall payload is below 150kg. is that right? Thanks
Great review! This is the best looking 20" bike with full suspension on the market. I'd like to know how do you change the speed settings to increase the speed to 28mph. Thanks!
Hey Paul! I believe you can! And thanks for the compliment. I also thought this was a cool looking bike!
Please explain how the Ovia with a maximum seat height of 37.5" is for riders up to 6'6" while the Kommoda with a maximum seat height of 41.5" is only rated for riders up to 6'0". Is it just the handlebar height is higher on the Ovia whereas you could just add a stem riser to the Kommoda?
Hahaha yeah I totally get how that doesn’t sound quite right. The Kommoda does have the adjustable stem, so that helps I imagine, but also, the way Cyrusher measures their seat height is from the floor, whereas most people measure that to the pedal at full extension. So that also may be a factor. And if I were 6’6” I imagine I’d be more comfortable on the Ovia. But that’s just my hot take. Lol
@@Ennovation So you are saying that if you had about 6" less legroom for a taller person that would be more comfortable. I sat on the Kommoda and at full seat extension my toes just barely hit the ground. How would someone be more comfortable with 4" less seat height and pedals that are higher off the ground? You would almost have your knees in your mouth. I am 6'4" and have a 36" inseam. Both bikes measure the seat height the same way, floor to top of seat.
Bravo for your test of the ovia bike, can you specify if the assistance is managed by a force sensor or a cadence sensor? How does it behave at startup ? There is a moment of waiting when you press the pedals? Thank you
You know I look like a really nice bike until you told everybody that the brake light didn't integrate with the main battery that's cheap that's just cheaply-made for a bike that they probably want over $2,000 for if it doesn't have a brake light I'm not buying it that's terrible
Good morning, I love this model, I live in Italy. Would you be so kind as to tell me the size of the hole of the luggage rack of the bicycle, I want to know what size and size of screws it would fit? Please I will be very grateful.
Hi, I'm thinking of buying this model but I want to know what types of accessories could be compatible with this model. Like the mirrors and the trunk of the helmet. I'm writing from Italy. Thank you very much
say i am in pedal assist 2 and i dont want to pedal, can i use the throttle only to get to its max speed of 28mph
Just received my Ovia a few days ago all in all pretty good the rear shock has been a pain trying to get it aired up correctly one thing I do not like about it is the brakes sounds like you’re rubbing the rotors with sandpaper they stop OK but not very smooth it does have a functioning brake light and tail light which is a good thing Other than that it’s pretty good power is good but not as good as my aerial rider
Glad you're enjoying it! Yeah those Ariel Riders are pretty fast bikes! Definitely more geared for the torque and speed than these bikes, but they have their place too :P
how can i ride to top speed of 28mph on throttle only. So im sayin i wud like to ride on throttle only without having to up the pas.
Looks good, I liked the look of the Kommoda but the low bottom bracket and the throttle being tied to PAS ran me off. I would like to see a hill climb test.
Hey Gary! Yes for me, the low bottom bracket was the main thing that was a miss on the Kommoda for me. They fixed that here on the Ovia. One thing I didn't really touch on in the review was the folding pedals on the Ovia. They're fine, but would definitely upgrade these to a flatter pedal, and you probably wouldn't need the folding aspect anyway. It performs well on hills, on par with other 750W motors, gearing is okay for the task here.
@@Ennovation I like the 98nm torque of the Majicycle Ocelot Pro but I also want the full suspension of the Cyrusher Ovia. The Ovia has a smaller battery and less torque, but I would like to see them on the same hill. My wife and I are large people, and we live and travel in mountainous country. With that suspension, the Ovia would only need to climb just well enough.
@@garysanchezphotography I'm also a big fan or the torquier motors. And I totally get how getting the level of comfort from a full-suspension air setup would be something you might sacrifice a little bit of torque for.
Great looking ebike and upgrade from the Kommoda...but for the price tag, and for safety of the rider, an integrated taillight/ brakelight should have been standard equipment. Come on Cyrusher, common sense and safety go alot further than cutting corners. Instead of waiting for the next edition or model, start adding this feature on the bike now and for the people that have already purchased one, offer to send this update free of charge and you'll probably sell more of this model.
Ovia at the moment is £400 more to buy than Kommoda which is still a fabulous bike; turns better than Ovia and has brake light and wired tail light over Ovia. Cyrusher claim up to 50 miles range for Kommoda and 43 for Ovia. So one pays your money and has the choice. At the moment...
😲😍WOW, that is a really good looking ebike. Wish we had one to review on our channel.
That would be cool! Where you you located, man?
@@Ennovation No place warm at the moment.....lol. Im in Northern Illinois, won't be doing any riding reviews till late Feb, early March.
Oh yeah…that’s basically southern Canada. Lol I’m Texans we still have some decent riding weather. We might be out for a few weeks in January, but after that we’ll probably be back to business. You still going to be doing some reviews over winter?
@@Ennovation I got 2 left to unbox and review over the next couple of weeks. After that I will keep it indoors in the garage, but not much riding.
Understood! What brands are the next 2? Anything exciting? If you care to share, of course. No need to give it away if you’re prepping for a big reveal. Just curious as a reviewer.
this is my dream bike! thanks for review. have to save up for couple years tho :S
You and me both! lol But that's the review game! Lots of fun bikes to ride, but I don't always get to keep them :P
Excelent review. I would love to see a real world review of the range. For instance 8n pas 3. Srt of an average for the bikes you test, but once again great review. Thanks
Hey Steven! It's been awhile, my dude! Hope everything is going well for ya up in Colorado! I will see if I can't get in some more range tests on the Ovia and pass that info along to ya. We recently took it out for a gig, and we went about 10 miles, and only saw a 10% decrease in battery. It was alot of stop and go, sidewalk stuff for the most part, and a combination of throttle and PAS 5. I like to go fast. lol So, as far as an indicator, that was a pretty sweet sign!
@@Ennovation haha i am from the Netherlands
@@StevenScholten Oh man! I didn't look closely at your thumbnail picture, but I have a buddy who shares your exact name in Colorado. I was very surprised he would be looking at Ebikes though...so now it's all making sense :P Sorry for the confusion!
Juste avec l’accélérateur le vélo roule à combien ?
Can the rear rack carry a set of golf clubs?
If you have this they might - th-cam.com/video/GhG57muFgQ0/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
Faites- nous s'il vous plaît, des vrais tests de conduite du vélo électrique Ovia 2023, sur les routes de compagne et de ville, une vraie vidéo qui révélera la vraie rusticité du vélo, une vidéo de 10- 15 minutes pour attirer plus de clientèle, surtout en France et en Allemagne.
Hello j'ai interpellé Arnaud le mobeur pour qu'il nous fasse un retour sur ce vélo, c'est prévu mais pas pour tout de suite car ça commence à lui faire un budget à tester tout ces vélos !!! , cordialement
@@sylchatzen3709 Guten Tag. Merci pour votre réponse amicale. Nous vivons en Allemagne et nous voulons acheter des vrais vélos électrique moderne, solide , rustique qui résiste aux intempéries et qui roulent vites en route, dans les compagnes et partout , surtout, pour aller au travail. Par ailleurs. nous avons compris votre réponse. Nous allons attendre avec patience le test du vélo électrique Cyrusher Ovia 2023 comparé au Cyrusher Kommoda 2023. Merci. Amicalement.
ReBonjour l'Allemagne ! Pour la solidité il faut savoir que les prix chinois forcément vont essayer de gagner sur certains points, par exemple le planétaire dans le moteur est pas toujours bien graissé et les engrenages du planétaire sont en plastique pour une raison économique et aussi pour atténuer le bruit des engrenages, des tutos sur TH-cam explique comment remplacer les 3 engrenages en plastique par des produits en acier bien plus solide (voir aliexpress ou Amazon) avec un bon graissage au lithium ou graphite la durée de vie du moteur sera prolongé sans soucis.... Le châssis par contre est bien solide et en ajoutant un fond de jante anti crevaison le vélo devrait s'en porter mieux....
I am 6foot 2 inches 34 inch leg seam is the Ovia suitable for tall 128kg person ? Or am I limited to the Kommoda ? JD in UK
Hey Jonathan! I would say 6'2" would probably be a decent fit for you! Cyrusher says 5'3"-6'6" and at 6'6" that would be pushing it, mainly due to the reach and handlebar setup, but I imagine your height would be a good fit here. They also say it is rated for up to 150kg, so you should be good there as well. All in all, I imagine it would be a pretty comfortable fit, and a fun machine to zip around on.
@@Ennovation Thank you for a very helpful reply. Little ray of sunshine on a very cold day here in UK
@@MrDisplaypilot You are very welcome! :) Let me know if you have any other questions :)
@@Ennovation Any view or review on the Ovia v Komoda
The Ovia looks like a mid engine bike, like with the bosch drivetrains to me, to bad that it is a rear wheel hub, like on the Kommoda. The Kommoda rides nice and comfortable, but the hillclimp performance is very limited.
How much?
2700 when I reviewed it, but now looks like it’s 2500.
Rear brake light?
I believe they do have that on the current model.
Thanks!
You bet, Gail! I Appreciate your support, my friend!
Is it legal for roads
Definitely. It does depend on what state you're in, but for most places 28MPH top speed, and 750W motor are all considered bicycles, and follow bicycle rules.
to bad they mounted the rear rack to the swing arm...instead to the frame. So every thing you have on the rack gets banged around, instead of benefitting from the suspension system.
Very true! Maybe theyll get that squared away for round 2. :P
Can you attach a golf bag
You can. I actually reviewed one of those awhile back - th-cam.com/video/GhG57muFgQ0/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
Come on man did I mess it how much does it cost
Hey Jim! I’ve got the prices down in the description. When I reviewed it, they were going for 2700, but now it looks like they’re 2500.
Opening the battery down is not an advantage. The throttle is not allowed in Germany. I Love my Kommoda.
I’m a big Kommoda fan myself. ;)
I think this new frame design is open for future mid-engines from bangfang or others 😁😲🤔👍
Honestly much to expensive compared to the Commoda. Nothing real better, but much more expensive. Higher ground clearance = costs nothing more. So in my mind newer but not really better.
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Thanks for tuning in Zard :)
Un bon vélo malheureusement, il manque des clignotants pour la sécurité routière , des rétroviseurs et une plastique de protection devant contre les vents quand on descend les pentes. Améliorer ces choses et la puissance du Moteur, une autonomie à 200Km pour une seule charge etc..En Allemagne, les gens aiment et adorent rouler avec les vélos électriques moderne qui roulent vites pour arriver vite au travail et faire des voyages à vélo électrique pendant les week-end, des vélos électriques moderne solide, rustique, qui résistent à toutes sortes d'intempéries et qui roulent vites en circulation routière, dans les compagnes, en piste cyclable etc.. Une amélioration du vélo électrique moderne avec des bons paramètres en terme de puissance, d'autonomie, qualité et prix ne peut que attirer plus de clientèle Germanique et dans l'ensemble de l'ensemble de l'Europe, à l'heure où les gens sont assoiffés de rouler avec des vélos électriques moderne qui manifestent plus de puissance et d'autonomie en route pour aller travailler, car le vélo électrique moderne en Allemagne, c'est l'avenir du déplacement pour arriver travail et faire des voyages, utiliser moins la voiture. Déjà, beaucoup des Entreprises industrielle allemande en Allemagne, encouragent les travailleurs à rouler plus avec le vélo électrique moderne. IL ne reste qu'à améliorer progressivement, la qualité de la production industrielle de ces vélos électriques moderne pour attirer plus de la clientèle en Europe.
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yeah that turning radius isnt a big deal lol
Hey Tim! Do you feel that it really is a big deal? Or I made it a bigger deal than it actually was? ;) It's one of those things I usually point out when it's different from a traditional bike, and although when you're going at speed, it definitely isn't much of a factor, maneuvering it around the garage, or turning at slow speeds (to maneuver around objects, or make the turn onto a sidewalk) I did notice that I had to make the turns wider to accomodate for the lack of movement there. Definitely not a deal breaker, but just something I like to mention for people who wouldn't get a chance to test ride it, should they order it directly to their house.
@@Ennovation nah its not a big deal you just learn to lift the rear wheel up by the seat and turn it around faster. its also not a problem because virtually nobody is going to be doing any slow speed technical rocky trails on this bike where they have to do extremely tight turns haha
@@Timbodacious All of those are fair points :P Thanks Tim!
Not a bid deal if you like crashing
Unlock the bike if you wanna go faster
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This bike is only available in USA.....
Hopefully they’ll be getting this thing out and about soon if not already.
No. It is now available in Spain, France, UK, and other European countries.
buy a HONDA MOPED and stop being SHEEPLE.
But the licensing though...and the insurance though...and the driver's license though....
The bike needs ONROAD tires, and the hub motor is noisy, 1000 watt should be minimum if i buy a ebike.
Hey there! Thanks for stopping by and watching the review. I think they’re going with 750watt motors due to the legislation coming down the pipe that will enforce the class 3 motor power requirements. But, I’m also a big fan of those 1k+ motors so I hear ya!
20 miles is nothing bro
Bro, come on. That's 105,600 feet! Or, just a tad over 90,514 Large Pepperoni Pizzas from Papa Johns. You can't it's nothing. It's something! The bike could go further though! I mean if they upgraded the battery first. ;)
Hi! Why don't you airlift electric bicycles to Korea? I'm so sorry. Good night, bye
Lmao they copy magicycle mini deer step thru 😂
Now that you mention it...I do see the resemblance haha
I noticed you didn't mention at all who this bike is made for in height. You completely ignored this fact even though it was one of your headings. What an ignorant way to go about making a video. Just completely ignore one of the main things that people ask about. A big 👎down for me.
Hi Liz! Super fair point! We deserve the thumbs down, and we look to do better in the future! For the measurements, we always have those in the description,
GEOMETRY MEASUREMENTS:
20.50" Reach, 18" Stand Over Height, 29" Minimum Saddle Height, 33.5" Maximum Saddle Height, 28" Width, 49" Wheel Base, 71" Length
The two main things to look at when deciding what sized person will fit on this bike would be the standover and the reach, then the min/max saddle distances. Hope this helps! :)
@@Ennovation Thank you for that. Sorry about the thumbs down. I only said about the height because I am 5ft 10 with an inseam of 34 inches. That is always my main thing I look for. Good video now you have answered my question 😁