Thanks for this video, I am thinking of buying the Kommoda myself. I am 74 and 5' tall so I think it will suit me fine. Over here in the uk these bikes are restricted by law to about 15mph, maybe one day the law will change to the same has the rest of Europe. To be honest it does not bother me too much. I love cycling but my back is starting to play up going up hills nowadays so looking for something to ease the pain. Thanks again, I try to keep with just uk reviews but yours is very comprehensive. Chris
@@CitizenCycle925 Thanks for the reply so quick, a question,which brake is the right lever front, think you said it might be rear in your other video. In the uk the right lever is front the same has on a motorcycle, which I used to have, ie ex biker.
When I first started riding my Ocelot, I used the cruise control feature a lot. Just throttle up, hold it for 8 seconds, and run! I liked the vicarious thrill of speeding effortlessly up and down the highways. It was a rush. After a month or so, my habits have changed. I’m back to riding the Ocelot more like a bicycle. A faster bicycle. A bicycle that easily climbs hills. But not a speed demon. So, while the cruise control is a nice option to have, I don’t use it any more. Other comments: Customer Service. Magicycle’s CS is “attentive”. They are quick to answer complaints. They are not “responsive”. It takes a while to get the simplest questions resolved. The reason being the tremendous language gulf in communication. This is a problem when dealing with any Chinese manufacturer. It takes several cycles on questions/answers before making any headway. Comfort. I, too, have installed a Bikeroo saddle. It’s an inch shorter (lengthwise) than the comparable Cloud 9, making the Bikeroo easier to mount and dismount. Unlike CitizenCycle, I have a Suntour NCX seat post. I find that it smooths out my ride extremely well. Not as good as the Kommoda’s full suspension, but more than adequate for my needs. I’m pleased with my ride. Speed/Power. I find the Ocelot to be plenty of bike for me. More than capable of tackling the hills (15% slopes) in my area. More than fast enough. I find it to be a nimble performer. Fat tires. While I originally was not enamored with fat tires for my city riding, I have come to appreciate their versatility. In order to avoid a couple of congested intersections, I take some short trails. The fat tires (and NCX seatpost) make it easy to do. Warning. There is one feature that I think should be immediately addressed and that is the “push assist” (aka walk assist) function. It is intended to assist owners in walking their bikes when dismounted. However, Magicycle erred when they designed the feature for a walking speed of 5 kph (3.1 mph). That, itself, would have been too fast for walking a bike. However, I measured the speed of the push assist (using my cell phone’s GPS app) and it came in at a whopping 5.2 mph! That changes it from a difficult-to-use feature to a dangerous one. My strongest recommendation is for owners NEVER to use the push assist.
After owning a few different e-bikes and putting down some miles in varying conditions I can say that for me being able to fine tune your pas power levels and having full power throttle anytime is HUGE. It just gives you so much more control in an instant. I initially didn’t think I would care that much as long as I could quickly switch pas level but I found real quick I only want to ride the bikes I can dial in exactly how I like.
@@sp33dybiscuit I have the Wired Cruiser (latest version) in White. Favorite bike that I’ve ridden. However I wanted the Freedom and am planning to have that as well in the October shipment. I can tell you for certain which I prefer after a few miles. But I will say in 1 way and 1 way only I like my Magicycle cruiser better, that is the ability to fine tune each pas level independently. The Wired bike doesn’t allow this but does have settings to adjust pas intensity/ramp up overall all and does a really good torque sensor imitation through the software. Just not quite as exact as setting the % for each pas.
Interestingly, my final 2 choices were between these two bikes and I got the Ocelot Pro. If I had the chance to do over again, I still would pick the Ocelot Pro. I don't like the limited throttle in PAS mode with the Kommoda. That said, I do like the full suspension on the Kommoda. That said, either is fine for me. I already know that when I find the exact ebike I want when the Ebikes evolve...I will be buying one. For now, the Ocelot Pro is fine.
Good comparison video CC, I'm glad you mentioned the 8 second auto cruise feature on the Ocelot Pro as it is not mentioned in any of Magicycle's ad info, or owners manual. I also asked them "why did you not make a way to disable that feature?" I think all cruise control should be operator choice on/off, not engineered in. An easy way for my wife to get going is to start out power on throttle only in PAS 0, and then start pedaling, if she wanted to. Magicycle changed that, now you have to be power on PAS 1-7 to use the throttle at all, so one has to pedal to get going. We sold her cruiser because it's a little too high for her, ordered the ocelot in Sept. It fit her very well, but because of the auto cruise we returned it. Back to the drawing board.....
@@norangeito No, I'm saying the throttle will not work unless you are in PAS 1 or up, even if the power is turned on, as Magicycle changed the way the throttle will work. On my cruiser you can take off in PAS 0, throttle only, therefore eliminating any possible forward movement of the bike if you put forward pressure on any pedal getting started the bike will not try to go. On the Ocelot pedal assist MUST be at PAS 1 or more, or the throttle will not work.
Regarding pedal strikes....now you know why the stock pedals are foldable.....and you're correct about the strikes being the result of the rear suspension compressing and lowering the effective ground clearance. A quick vid on how you swapped out the stock rear shock for the DMN shock would be great. Thanks for the great vids, you're my go-to guy! 🤘
Thanks for another interesting video. Over the past 8 years I tried several saddles and suspension seat posts including the Zoom-type like you put on the Ocelot, a Rinston Spring type, and finally, a Redshift ShockStop that works great. My friend (who owns a Kinekt seat post) and I agree on one thing: when it comes to suspension, you get what you pay for.
Thanks for the comparison, great video as you always do. Personally I like the cruise control feature especially for commuting to work. One thing you didn't mention is the turning radius of the Kommoda, the motorcycle type forks limit how far you can turn the bars right to left. Tough call for me though with the Kommoda suspension and great looks but ultimately I'd chose power and speed over suspension. There are much better suspension seat posts you can buy if needed.
I like the Magicycle Ocelot Pro.....a lot! Powerful, sleek design, big 52V 20ah battery for range, hydraulic brakes, nice display. I'm a little biased as I have the Magicycle Crusier Pro😂Please keep us up to date on how you accessorize this bike (you are the best in accessorizing), as I plan on getting this bike for Mrs.K. She's same in size as Mrs.Citizen and is the perfect sized bike. Great review👍
Awesome comparison. I have magicycle bikes so I'm biased towards the ocelot, but that kommoda looks great. Bigger battery definitely nice on ocelot. kommoda seems smoother ride. I'd probably go ocelot due to good customer service on a couple issues.
The Kommoda is the best-looking 20" step thru e-bike I've seen. Very nice design. I like the front fork and the ability to upgrade the rear shock. I wish it had a bigger battery, but I'm leaning toward the Kommoda, even though the Magicycle has more power and a bigger battery.
Pedal strikes on the Kommoda happen because as soon as you sit down the rear suspension compresses a little effectively lowering the distance from the ground to the bottom of the pedal.
Fantastic! Two bikes on my short list. If only the Kommodo had the Ocelot battery. In my checklist, I show the Kommoda as having cruise control too. Does it not? It's rather important for me as I have carpal tunnel syndrome and can't hold a grip for very long. I have a Honda GoldWing and cruise is a Godsend for me. I actually preferred to ride my Suzuki Burgman but no cruise. One thing that I'd like to see is tire options. I'd go for street tread to keep the noise down. I'll be on bike trails at times but nothing that needs aggressive tread.
The Ocelot comes closest to the bike I'm looking for. Big battery, highly programable, comfortable ride. Now if someone would copy the good parts and add full suspension, 3 inch tires and lose the cruise control then I'd be a buyer.
I do not own either one, but am leaning toward the Magicycle. First of all, a better comparison would be to compare the Magicycle Deer to the Kommoda, as the Deer has dual suspension. Also, when you talk about things you like on either bike (such as the forks, or short fenders, explain why you have those preferences, because it might be something tangible to us, vs. just cosmetic or personal preferences. As to pedal strikes, you answered your own question, as the dual suspension will compress, causing it to be intermittently lower.
Thanks for your videos. Are there other stem risers available for the Kommoda that would bring the bars up even higher than the one you added to your Kommoda? And is there any way to have the bars come back to you more?
Thanks for the comparison video. Great also to see your wife on them both as I am also 5.3”, current runners for me is the big game bike Impala alpha with a 24ah battery 48v , which is a step through. Other one is Engwe engine pro, not a step through . Hard as don’t want to make a bad decision 🤣, loved the Kommoda but price abit much for me . Great vids enjoy the content .
Are there any youtube reviews on the Ocelot by someone who paid for it themselves ? I'm a bit skeptical about reviews where the bikes are given to the vlogger to review.
Great comparison video. I saw one you did in the past that seemed more of a promotional video for one than the other. Not being critical of you. It was still a good video you slipped in a weakness even if in passing.
you can pedal them without power or with minimal motor power if you want exercise but it is not easy. they weigh 70-80lbs and the fat tires have some rolling resistance, personally i wouldn't want to pedal one 5miles home. but the electric will allow you to get as much exercise as you want,
I purchased a couple of magic circles pros would like to put a better head like I noticed you have some on your ocelot and some of your other bikes are they a plug and play for magic cycle and what’s the Lumos on it And we’re gonna get one. Thank you love your videos.
komoda has rear suspension , if the riders a little bit heavier, possible pedals hit the ground, for ocelot, theres no changing crank arm level from the ground every pedal stroke, its hard tail frame, you only have seatpost suspension .
I added a 1000 watt front gear hub motor wheel and a second 20 AMP Hr.52 volt battery for the front drive to match the 52 volt 20 AMP hr. original battery to my new Ariel Rider X bike and for more distance I got a battery tender trailer with 20 amp hour battery's blended together that I can plug to the bike also.for long cross country rides
@@CitizenCycle925Front hub rim off my 3 motor Ariel rider D bike only need two motors per bike for extra power plus the D is a hard tail I use the X now because it is full suspension much better bike for my tail.
Jusr receive Ocelot green, front light broken in the box. Looking for bigger light with same connecting wire. Interested to know witch one you n'installe on yours.
Another great review. Both bikes really have some plus's and minus's, that make for a hard choice. I'll still choose my Ariel Rider over both even though it's not step through. Hoping I can afford the Onyx CTY2 next year. Now I need to do a search for some 24" vs 26" tire comparisons.
Ocelot comes in Army Green also. Confused on which tire you liked. You said the Komoda, but then said you liked the more aggressive tires with your hand on the Kenda tire.
Hey can you tell me what size of DMX shock would work for the Heybike horizon I see you also have that bike, I want to upgrade that shock for my horizon which size on Amazon you think will work thanks for your time.
Loving your videos very informative and real world views on these bikes! I have to ask are you going to be doing a review of the Magicycle Deer? That bike really has my interest with the full front and rear suspension, hope to hear your thoughts on that bike ..... keep the videos coming great job!!
I would definitely look at adding motorcycle style mirrors like on your Kawasaki. They look cool and would look cool on an ebike. I definitely like the front light upgrade but don't like that light bracket which brings the front light forward. I'd modify it to be more recessed. Better still, I'd get a motorbike light added for me as don't have the knowhow to do it myself. Maybe you could explore those options..
While the features are of interest real life usage over several months would be the clincher for a decision. What’s their reliability like, how easy to fix a flat etc?
Great video! Just in time for me, as I’ve been comparing both. Do you think the Kammodo is due for an upgrade, that perhaps will include a battery with more capacity and/or more power? Also, is there a way to adjust the handlebars for a shorter reach? I’m 5’2” and even your wife was reaching pretty far. Have you ever seen or do you think it would work, to put a hitch receiver on the front of my 03’ Yukon Denali? My teardrop camper doesn’t have a rear bumper and I wouldn’t be strong enough to lift a folding bike in my vehicle, even if it’s in a tub. I love your videos! Thank you!
I don't know if Cyrusher has any plans to upgrade the Kommoda but I feel like it definitely needs a larger battery pack to keep competing with other bikes. To bring the handlebars further back You could reverse the top of the handlebar stem and have the bars point back towards you, That would gain you a few inches. Or you could buy swept-back handlebars which would bring them closer to you. I no they make receivers that bolt onto the front of vehicles so I'm sure it's possible to carry your bike on the front of your Denali. I know you said you were camper does not have a rear bumper but you may be able to bolt a receiver onto just the frame of the trailer. That might work since you won't be pulling any significant weight it'll just be holding one bicycle. Most U-Haul dealers also install trailer hitches, You might be able to have them take a peek at your trailer and see what's possible.
Thank you for helping me! I have looked into adding a receiver to the back of my camper. Sadly I can’t. I’m very close to buying the Cyrusher. If I do, I will purchase through you. Hopefully, before to long they will upgrade their battery!🤞🤞 I have time to wait! I live in snowy Michigan! ❄️ ⛄️
Hey, I have a tTroxus Skyhopper 20' fat Ebike! I wanted to upgrade the headlight. I got a 7' halo headlight. The issue is it came with a 3 pin male Julet wire . The bike does not have the same wire setup. this mean I have to rewire the headlight system or can you recommend an alternative way to do the job. I appreciate any feedback, Thanks!!
I got the ocelot pro in white as well, you know the headlight is trash, i was wondering where you get yours, i want to replace the one that came with the ocelot. Can you provide me a link please. And thanks for your videos 👍🏼
You guessed it on why your pedal is able to touch the ground by just going straight because your suspension is to soft to weigh ratio buy simple fix if it's adjustable by just stiffening it up. Other causes are tire size for ground clearance along with the length of your crank arms or if the crank arm and the chainring are one piece then the size of the chainring will play a Parr in the over all length of your crankarm
Those are nice mini scooters. No one is going to pedal those bikes. Cruise control? One of the dumbest things a manufacturer could put on a scooter. One, how much open road will that bike see? Two, it will mostly be used as a commuter. Will you need cruise control in the City? Good stuff as usual Citizen.
Thanks for this video, I am thinking of buying the Kommoda myself. I am 74 and 5' tall so I think it will suit me fine. Over here in the uk these bikes are restricted by law to about 15mph, maybe one day the law will change to the same has the rest of Europe. To be honest it does not bother me too much. I love cycling but my back is starting to play up going up hills nowadays so looking for something to ease the pain. Thanks again, I try to keep with just uk reviews but yours is very comprehensive. Chris
Thanks for giving my videos a watch Chris, much appreciated!!😁
@@CitizenCycle925 Thanks for the reply so quick, a question,which brake is the right lever front, think you said it might be rear in your other video. In the uk the right lever is front the same has on a motorcycle, which I used to have, ie ex biker.
@@lilchris26 The right lever is the rear brake on my Kommoda. perhaps they switch it when they ship to the UK.. I'm not sure.
When I first started riding my Ocelot, I used the cruise control feature a lot. Just throttle up, hold it for 8 seconds, and run! I liked the vicarious thrill of speeding effortlessly up and down the highways. It was a rush.
After a month or so, my habits have changed. I’m back to riding the Ocelot more like a bicycle. A faster bicycle. A bicycle that easily climbs hills. But not a speed demon. So, while the cruise control is a nice option to have, I don’t use it any more.
Other comments:
Customer Service. Magicycle’s CS is “attentive”. They are quick to answer complaints. They are not “responsive”. It takes a while to get the simplest questions resolved. The reason being the tremendous language gulf in communication. This is a problem when dealing with any Chinese manufacturer. It takes several cycles on questions/answers before making any headway.
Comfort. I, too, have installed a Bikeroo saddle. It’s an inch shorter (lengthwise) than the comparable Cloud 9, making the Bikeroo easier to mount and dismount. Unlike CitizenCycle, I have a Suntour NCX seat post. I find that it smooths out my ride extremely well. Not as good as the Kommoda’s full suspension, but more than adequate for my needs. I’m pleased with my ride.
Speed/Power. I find the Ocelot to be plenty of bike for me. More than capable of tackling the hills (15% slopes) in my area. More than fast enough. I find it to be a nimble performer.
Fat tires. While I originally was not enamored with fat tires for my city riding, I have come to appreciate their versatility. In order to avoid a couple of congested intersections, I take some short trails. The fat tires (and NCX seatpost) make it easy to do.
Warning. There is one feature that I think should be immediately addressed and that is the “push assist” (aka walk assist) function. It is intended to assist owners in walking their bikes when dismounted. However, Magicycle erred when they designed the feature for a walking speed of 5 kph (3.1 mph). That, itself, would have been too fast for walking a bike. However, I measured the speed of the push assist (using my cell phone’s GPS app) and it came in at a whopping 5.2 mph! That changes it from a difficult-to-use feature to a dangerous one. My strongest recommendation is for owners NEVER to use the push assist.
It is to help with hills where the bike bogs out or slow maneuvering while sitting on bike
After owning a few different e-bikes and putting down some miles in varying conditions I can say that for me being able to fine tune your pas power levels and having full power throttle anytime is HUGE. It just gives you so much more control in an instant. I initially didn’t think I would care that much as long as I could quickly switch pas level but I found real quick I only want to ride the bikes I can dial in exactly how I like.
Wired cruiser or the wired freedom then? I ordered the wired cruiser in orange 🍊
@@sp33dybiscuit I have the Wired Cruiser (latest version) in White. Favorite bike that I’ve ridden. However I wanted the Freedom and am planning to have that as well in the October shipment. I can tell you for certain which I prefer after a few miles. But I will say in 1 way and 1 way only I like my Magicycle cruiser better, that is the ability to fine tune each pas level independently. The Wired bike doesn’t allow this but does have settings to adjust pas intensity/ramp up overall all and does a really good torque sensor imitation through the software. Just not quite as exact as setting the % for each pas.
Interestingly, my final 2 choices were between these two bikes and I got the Ocelot Pro. If I had the chance to do over again, I still would pick the Ocelot Pro. I don't like the limited throttle in PAS mode with the Kommoda. That said, I do like the full suspension on the Kommoda. That said, either is fine for me. I already know that when I find the exact ebike I want when the Ebikes evolve...I will be buying one. For now, the Ocelot Pro is fine.
Good comparison video CC, I'm glad you mentioned the 8 second auto cruise feature on the Ocelot Pro as it is not mentioned in any of Magicycle's ad info, or owners manual. I also asked them "why did you not make a way to disable that feature?" I think all cruise control should be operator choice on/off, not engineered in. An easy way for my wife to get going is to start out power on throttle only in PAS 0, and then start pedaling, if she wanted to. Magicycle changed that, now you have to be power on PAS 1-7 to use the throttle at all, so one has to pedal to get going. We sold her cruiser because it's a little too high for her, ordered the ocelot in Sept. It fit her very well, but because of the auto cruise we returned it. Back to the drawing board.....
Hi! I was about to buy the ocelot and saw your comment. Are you saying that you can’t use throttle only at anytime unless you pedal first?
@@norangeito No, I'm saying the throttle will not work unless you are in PAS 1 or up, even if the power is turned on, as Magicycle changed the way the throttle will work. On my cruiser you can take off in PAS 0, throttle only, therefore eliminating any possible forward movement of the bike if you put forward pressure on any pedal getting started the bike will not try to go. On the Ocelot pedal assist MUST be at PAS 1 or more, or the throttle will not work.
Regarding pedal strikes....now you know why the stock pedals are foldable.....and you're correct about the strikes being the result of the rear suspension compressing and lowering the effective ground clearance. A quick vid on how you swapped out the stock rear shock for the DMN shock would be great. Thanks for the great vids, you're my go-to guy!
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Thanks for another interesting video. Over the past 8 years I tried several saddles and suspension seat posts including the Zoom-type like you put on the Ocelot, a Rinston Spring type, and finally, a Redshift ShockStop that works great. My friend (who owns a Kinekt seat post) and I agree on one thing: when it comes to suspension, you get what you pay for.
Thanks for the comparison, great video as you always do. Personally I like the cruise control feature especially for commuting to work. One thing you didn't mention is the turning radius of the Kommoda, the motorcycle type forks limit how far you can turn the bars right to left. Tough call for me though with the Kommoda suspension and great looks but ultimately I'd chose power and speed over suspension. There are much better suspension seat posts you can buy if needed.
My Father in law just bought the Ocelot. I rode it, its peppy!
Yep very peppy indeed
I like the Magicycle Ocelot Pro.....a lot! Powerful, sleek design, big 52V 20ah battery for range, hydraulic brakes, nice display. I'm a little biased as I have the Magicycle Crusier Pro😂Please keep us up to date on how you accessorize this bike (you are the best in accessorizing), as I plan on getting this bike for Mrs.K. She's same in size as Mrs.Citizen and is the perfect sized bike. Great review👍
Awesome comparison. I have magicycle bikes so I'm biased towards the ocelot, but that kommoda looks great. Bigger battery definitely nice on ocelot. kommoda seems smoother ride. I'd probably go ocelot due to good customer service on a couple issues.
The Kommoda is the best-looking 20" step thru e-bike I've seen. Very nice design. I like the front fork and the ability to upgrade the rear shock. I wish it had a bigger battery, but I'm leaning toward the Kommoda, even though the Magicycle has more power and a bigger battery.
can always add more batteries and/or upgrade the power, adding rear suspension to a hardtail is not quite so easy lol.
For my money the Cyrusher is (after your additions) the better bike. Really nice looking bike too!
Pedal strikes on the Kommoda happen because as soon as you sit down the rear suspension compresses a little effectively lowering the distance from the ground to the bottom of the pedal.
Yes that's what he said
Thanks!
Hey Gail thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed the video or found it helpful. did you make an e-bike selection yet?
Fantastic! Two bikes on my short list. If only the Kommodo had the Ocelot battery. In my checklist, I show the Kommoda as having cruise control too. Does it not? It's rather important for me as I have carpal tunnel syndrome and can't hold a grip for very long. I have a Honda GoldWing and cruise is a Godsend for me. I actually preferred to ride my Suzuki Burgman but no cruise. One thing that I'd like to see is tire options. I'd go for street tread to keep the noise down. I'll be on bike trails at times but nothing that needs aggressive tread.
The Ocelot comes closest to the bike I'm looking for. Big battery, highly programable, comfortable ride. Now if someone would copy the good parts and add full suspension, 3 inch tires and lose the cruise control then I'd be a buyer.
I do not own either one, but am leaning toward the Magicycle. First of all, a better comparison would be to compare the Magicycle Deer to the Kommoda, as the Deer has dual suspension. Also, when you talk about things you like on either bike (such as the forks, or short fenders, explain why you have those preferences, because it might be something tangible to us, vs. just cosmetic or personal preferences. As to pedal strikes, you answered your own question, as the dual suspension will compress, causing it to be intermittently lower.
Thanks for your videos. Are there other stem risers available for the Kommoda that would bring the bars up even higher than the one you added to your Kommoda? And is there any way to have the bars come back to you more?
Thanks for the comparison video. Great also to see your wife on them both as I am also 5.3”, current runners for me is the big game bike Impala alpha with a 24ah battery 48v , which is a step through. Other one is Engwe engine pro, not a step through . Hard as don’t want to make a bad decision 🤣, loved the Kommoda but price abit much for me . Great vids enjoy the content .
If possible, could you post links (or more info) for the short fender and bigger light?
Are there any youtube reviews on the Ocelot by someone who paid for it themselves ? I'm a bit skeptical about reviews where the bikes are given to the vlogger to review.
Thank you for your very informative videos……You always have a BIG refreshing smile to send us 👍👏😃🇨🇦
Great comparison video. I saw one you did in the past that seemed more of a promotional video for one than the other. Not being critical of you. It was still a good video you slipped in a weakness even if in passing.
Hi , nice vid , can u just petal them if u want exercise ? Or are they too heavy without batt to Just pedal ?
you can pedal them without power or with minimal motor power if you want exercise but it is not easy. they weigh 70-80lbs and the fat tires have some rolling resistance, personally i wouldn't want to pedal one 5miles home. but the electric will allow you to get as much exercise as you want,
Wafts the right measures for the ocelot proseat post suspension?
I purchased a couple of magic circles pros would like to put a better head like I noticed you have some on your ocelot and some of your other bikes are they a plug and play for magic cycle and what’s the Lumos on it And we’re gonna get one. Thank you love your videos.
What light are you using on the ocelot?
komoda has rear suspension , if the riders a little bit heavier, possible pedals hit the ground, for ocelot, theres no changing crank arm level from the ground every pedal stroke, its hard tail frame, you only have seatpost suspension .
Very nice review... My Fabulous Havoc Adrenalized Is coming tomorrow.. can't wait.
Nice that's another great one! I really like the fabulous bikes
I added a 1000 watt front gear hub motor wheel and a second 20 AMP Hr.52 volt battery for the front drive to match the 52 volt 20 AMP hr. original battery to my new Ariel Rider X bike and for more distance I got a battery tender trailer with 20 amp hour battery's blended together that I can plug to the bike also.for long cross country rides
Where did you get the 1000w geared hub to fit the front drop out?
@@CitizenCycle925Front hub rim off my 3 motor Ariel rider D bike only need two motors per bike for extra power plus the D is a hard tail I use the X now because it is full suspension much better bike for my tail.
How did you get those skins on the rear spokes? I’m struggling. Thanks
Jusr receive Ocelot green, front light broken in the box. Looking for bigger light with same connecting wire. Interested to know witch one you n'installe on yours.
Another great review. Both bikes really have some plus's and minus's, that make for a hard choice. I'll still choose my Ariel Rider over both even though it's not step through. Hoping I can afford the Onyx CTY2 next year. Now I need to do a search for some 24" vs 26" tire comparisons.
What brand and size stem riser did you use on the Ocelot Pro?
The bike racks you have on the wall , are they not hard on the bike?? I like to know where I can find them !! They save a lot of space!!
Ocelot comes in Army Green also. Confused on which tire you liked. You said the Komoda, but then said you liked the more aggressive tires with your hand on the Kenda tire.
I so want that cyrusher. But I want mag wheels duel motor and somehow a big powerfull battery pack set up on back rack
Hey can you tell me what size of DMX shock would work for the Heybike horizon I see you also have that bike, I want to upgrade that shock for my horizon which size on Amazon you think will work thanks for your time.
Loving your videos very informative and real world views on these bikes! I have to ask are you going to be doing a review of the Magicycle Deer? That bike really has my interest with the full front and rear suspension, hope to hear your thoughts on that bike ..... keep the videos coming great job!!
Thank you for the kind words! unfortunately I don't have any plans to review the deer bike.
I would definitely look at adding motorcycle style mirrors like on your Kawasaki. They look cool and would look cool on an ebike. I definitely like the front light upgrade but don't like that light bracket which brings the front light forward. I'd modify it to be more recessed. Better still, I'd get a motorbike light added for me as don't have the knowhow to do it myself. Maybe you could explore those options..
While the features are of interest real life usage over several months would be the clincher for a decision. What’s their reliability like, how easy to fix a flat etc?
Great video! Just in time for me, as I’ve been comparing both. Do you think the Kammodo is due for an upgrade, that perhaps will include a battery with more capacity and/or more power? Also, is there a way to adjust the handlebars for a shorter reach? I’m 5’2” and even your wife was reaching pretty far. Have you ever seen or do you think it would work, to put a hitch receiver on the front of my 03’ Yukon Denali? My teardrop camper doesn’t have a rear bumper and I wouldn’t be strong enough to lift a folding bike in my vehicle, even if it’s in a tub. I love your videos! Thank you!
I don't know if Cyrusher has any plans to upgrade the Kommoda but I feel like it definitely needs a larger battery pack to keep competing with other bikes. To bring the handlebars further back You could reverse the top of the handlebar stem and have the bars point back towards you, That would gain you a few inches. Or you could buy swept-back handlebars which would bring them closer to you. I no they make receivers that bolt onto the front of vehicles so I'm sure it's possible to carry your bike on the front of your Denali. I know you said you were camper does not have a rear bumper but you may be able to bolt a receiver onto just the frame of the trailer. That might work since you won't be pulling any significant weight it'll just be holding one bicycle. Most U-Haul dealers also install trailer hitches, You might be able to have them take a peek at your trailer and see what's possible.
Thank you for helping me! I have looked into adding a receiver to the back of my camper. Sadly I can’t. I’m very close to buying the Cyrusher. If I do, I will purchase through you. Hopefully, before to long they will upgrade their battery!🤞🤞 I have time to wait! I live in snowy Michigan! ❄️ ⛄️
How much range these bikes per charge..?
Can u start the cyrusher on pedal 5 or no
Ariel rider Kepler?
Hey, I have a tTroxus Skyhopper 20' fat Ebike! I wanted to upgrade the headlight. I got a 7' halo headlight. The issue is it came with a 3 pin male Julet wire . The bike does not have the same wire setup. this mean I have to rewire the headlight system or can you recommend an alternative way to do the job. I appreciate any feedback, Thanks!!
just got my ocelot pro :). What kind of real world range are you getting on throttle and peddling?
You'll get around 50 miles per charge, but it depends on how much peddling you do.
I got the ocelot pro in white as well, you know the headlight is trash, i was wondering where you get yours, i want to replace the one that came with the ocelot. Can you provide me a link please. And thanks for your videos 👍🏼
Can a 11-34 freewheel be easily added?
Cyrusher…my dream ebike.
I prefer the kommoda , but 14 ah battery is a dealbreaker for me
Swap the cheap Zoom seatpost shock out for the Suntour one! The difference between the shocks is like night and day!
I thought about doing that, I really like the suntours.
Could a 6'4" guy ride the Ocelot Pro comfortably?
It would feel too small for you
I know one of these bikes I read it was a 750W Bafang motor. Maybe that’s the difference?!
Great job
I like the automatic cruise control...Prefer the customer service of Magicycle over Cyrusher any day of the week, it's a night and day difference...
I love my side cyrusher Komoda 👍🏽👍🏽⚡️
You guessed it on why your pedal is able to touch the ground by just going straight because your suspension is to soft to weigh ratio buy simple fix if it's adjustable by just stiffening it up. Other causes are tire size for ground clearance along with the length of your crank arms or if the crank arm and the chainring are one piece then the size of the chainring will play a Parr in the over all length of your crankarm
so perfect!
On my E-bike Victron energy Smart battery sense 12v/24/48 temperature sense long Range 10m £33.99 on amazon
Somebody should make that style with more range and power.
Hhmmmmm... Good idea 💡
They look good. But I like my himiway excape pro
Any chance you can review the cyrusher kuattro?
The things only are the upgrades you did..it should be done in the factory..rather spending more on upgrades..thanks..
@citizencycle I got a suggestion for the komoda bag look at rinowalk 3 in 1 bag it will not disappoint
Thanks for posting you just want me 50 bucks I bet my buddy you would make a bike and never mention price waste of everyone's time
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🐸 seems legit
Those are nice mini scooters. No one is going to pedal those bikes. Cruise control? One of the dumbest things a manufacturer could put on a scooter. One, how much open road will that bike see? Two, it will mostly be used as a commuter. Will you need cruise control in the City? Good stuff as usual Citizen.