Artists: You Can’t Protect Your Art from AI, But You Can Do This
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AI art is basically the same as teaching an elephant to paint some lines that look vaguely like an elephant. It's a fun parlor trick for tourists and people will forget about it in a few minutes. No matter how much I look at any AI generated images for any amount of time, it doesn't leave an inkling of impression on me. A captivating art by a person, however, can stick with you forever.
this is so true
I completely agree! AI art can be amusing and fun for a while, but it's always lacking something IMO... - Mia, Art Prof Staff
👏👏👏👏 yes! But also artists can use Glaze to cloak their work. also support (thru $ or by spreading the word) organizations advocating for human artists in Washington like the concept art association. I think everything you said is true but I also think it’s time for visual artists to take a stronger stance. Get out of our solo studios and unify to demand proper respect and payment for our contributions. I also need to say that as an artist I’m not against AI I’m against unethical AI. artists should be compensated fairly for their contribution. If that was done I’d have much less issue with AI imagery
Unethical AI should be a universal concern for us visual artists, I agree! Thank you so much for watching :) - Mia, Art Prof Staff
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Look at it this way, artists were worried just the same when cameras were invented and now look
Great point! At least with cameras artists found a way to work in tandem-- hopefully we can reach that point with AI comfortably? Guess we'll have to wait and see! - Mia, Art Prof Staff
Excellent! Great advice, and so true!
Glad you think so! - Mia, Art Prof Staff
Yes, yes, yes ❤
Yes! - Mia, Art Prof Staff
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Exactly.
Indeed! - Mia, Art Prof Staff
I refuse to buy art unless I know it ISN'T AI.
Hi, I watch alot of your you tube channel I really like it. The thing is with ai unless I'm really missing something is the art is created by a artist who uses words to prompt the ai, which uses existing images of other humans art that they made with their hands. So the deeper question is, is an AI prompter an artist? If you ask someone who uses midjourney and are selling canvas prints they'd say yes. They'd say they are cutting edge on the verge of art for all. Professor, what do you think are the parameters that define an artist? Are prompters artist?
Thank you so much for commenting, we hope you enjoyed the video! Feel free to check out our other AI discussions, we delve into some of the topics you mentioned there: artprof.org/?s=artificial+intelligence - Mia, Art Prof Staff
I personally think at least (as an artist) that no, prompters are not artists. If they are, then asking a baker what you want on a cake makes you a baker, and people who commission drawings are artists, by that logic.
An artist to me is just anyone who wants to draw. Doodling every 5 months as a hobby i feel just means you like to doodle sometimes, being an artist means you want to release your work, maybe not even for sale, and maybe even not release it, just making it. There's some passion for it little or small, where you still come back to it and want to do it, no matter what the art style. Anyone can be an artist, you can even start late! Van Gogh started a little late, and look at him, his work is still amazing. :)
TLDR : not agree. If we scramble with AI, we simply catered to the wrong market, people who will only pay what's cheaper, you could make Monalisa and they'd ignore it over some AI Bob Ross. Solution: market differently, or, make your online posted work harder to steal.
LONG ASS VERSION:
I saw some generated images that are actually thought provoking and inspiring, so I think the discourse of AI can't recreate the beauty of humans is moot. Some AI art do work well, as is humans'. And vice versa, most AI art doesn't captivate at all, just like humans', again. Made by humans don't mean that it is always inherently 'magical'. The discussion also became difficult when the AI is intentionally built and trained by an artist, to produce a certain unique direction of works. At that point, you can't say that there is no human designer behind the work. There is, and each final work is result of intention. Conversely, what about AI generated images that are copied by humans? Therefore focusing on AI vs humans would take us nowhere. Just like printmaking, photography, or digital art, it is just another medium. The lowest of it will only become excess in someone's belonging, but the best of it is at least discussion worthy, if not emotion provoking.
The direction we should take to buyers is simply that this work is fully human generated. Stop there. It doesn't mean that it is always better than any work out there. Saying otherwise would only offend the buyer if they personally find your work less interesting than let's say, a similar photograph / AI art they found a few days ago. At this point, we are no different in mentality from high horse society back then, that views unrealistic art or pieces that doesn't enter the Salon unworthy. No room for subversion, we stopped growing, while out there, alternative will always be in the works, however offending it may be.
At the end of the day, art is subjective. Especially if a price tag is involved. Buyers would weigh in their love of the work versus the money spent, which is a tall order for us to go against dirt cheap AI. That said, if we are still talking about free / cheap generated AI images eating our pie, we are simply talking to the wrong buyer / having the wrong market for our art, and taken further, it could also be said that the art we made is simply art that doesn't conform to the current high profile art market. That doesn't mean that the work is lesser, simply that it is more susceptible to theft, forgery, plagiarism, used in AI training, etc due to either its technicality, subject matter, or even method of exposure (social media, ads, etc). All those things put our work in the lowest tier of the art market pyramid (again, being here doesn't always mean worse art). Granted down here, we are catering to the more common masses, where our work is still head to head in marketability with not just AI, but digital art, prints, photos, handcrafts, etc. It is normal course that a new medium, cheap like AI, will reduce our pie. So if we don't want to deal with that, sadly just gotta cater to a different tier / section of the market. One where they see AI only as a medium, and there will be a human molding that medium to produce a work as they intended, just like a paintbrush. These people will not mistake AI as a legitimate creator, because they understand what a creator is, and in extension, what mediums and end result are. They are not paying for the result, not for the medium, they know they are paying the human behind, thus they pay respectfully. Both AI and humans are respected accordingly, not like the mass market where all art are accordingly NOT respected, either humans or AI (understandable, since art is never a primary need, thus for most people, art is just glorified junk). This is the root cause for why mass market artists having such gripes with AI while 'expensive gallery art' managed to navigate the situation better. The clientele simply appreciates art more, whatever medium it is in.
Now, changing market is def not easy. Meanwhile, what you can do, simply be careful of anything you post online, customized watermarking, post it in a way difficult for automated filtering to differentiate the work from the background, add some pixel ruining algorithm, basically make it extra effort for run of the mill AI to process.
Otherwise, just get out there more, meet new people, promote your work like it's the old times. Butter the rich, appeal the poor, show you're a real human that they need to pay to, negotiate, exhibit offline, basically the marketing grind of the ye olde. The turnover will be slow, but hopefully that would get you to change market to more appreciative people, good luck.
Thank you so much for sharing and explaining your thoughtful response-- you brought up points I had never thought of before! - Mia, Art Prof Staff
The camera created concerns much like AI is today. It caused such a great ruckess that to this day photography struggles to be considered an art form. While they were fighting this battlefront they failed to see the proliferation of new art forms and genres that couldn't be explored because it would take an artists 5 lifetimes to get to these new ideas. The camera freed the artist.
Now AI is on the scene. I think just in time as well. Themes have become cliche, yet society is still far from reaching the Utopia it can achieve which I believe is possible to reach. Art has changed us for the better, not for the best. Art itself has left a trail of blood behind it. Fatalities from artists who went mad, never made it during their lifetimes, and some who should never have been artists. Heck if it wasn't for TH-cam most artists would be stuck on the street doing instant drawings or having to become low-salaried teachers.
AI is going to cause a proliferation of art. Just like the phone has caused a proliferation of images. This proliferation is an effect not a cause that people need these tools for their personal lives. Instead of creating a Mona Lisa only for one museum we have the possibility of creating a Mona Lisa for every living room with each persons image on their own.
AI will generate images warning images. Ask an AI prompt to create an image of a drug using friend in 10 years. Then take the photo to this person and say I have a powerful message and have another image created showing you standing with that friend through the years. Might cause an alteration in the direction a person is going.
AI is certainly going to destroy traditional thoughts of art. The artist never disappeared because of the camera but was freed from the rule of realism. AI is going to free artists of much more than ever dreamed. AI is going to demand skill again and it's going to demand knowledge to be used as a tool for the artists. A much grander door is opening but humans are always going to have to adjust machine perfection into human perfection.
In closing how to wisely use AI should be the discussion, not the advocation of old fashioned human art. It's just going to delay important changes for the better. Here is the warning: "If we don't work with the tools God gave us the power to create we are going to go back to the days of charcoal sticks from fire and making pigments out of dirt. We are too advanced and can't stop the atomic bomb yet we aren't advanced enough to stop from using it."
As an artist who had over 85+ artworks taken to train AI I ask you. Why should I be forced to provide the core product of my biz to develop the core product of another (for profit!) biz? We know their computers can’t do anything without our art to train them. Also I and many artist I know don’t necessary have a problem with AI we have a problem with them using our images without consent or payment. Set up AI like stock photography where the photographer chooses to participate and gets paid an agreed amount. Do that and I for one don’t have a problem with AI.
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughtful response-- this topic always spurs interesting discussions! - Mia, Art Prof Staff
Well I don't agree with any living artists works exploited for any reason by machine or man. Once your dead though isn't a great thought you may have contributed to your descendants a way to advance their knowledge. Also as Artists did we figure out how to use a brush without someones example. No we had to learn, learning is not stealing, in fact learning is the primary motivation for all forms of communication including the arts.
Now AI stock. Well that's complex. Can you make a student that learned your style pay you for their future productions? In the old days and other countries apprenticeships were expected to do so. Once they were elevated above apprenticeships they would train their students. Well so far court rulings are looking wise and fair to me about AI art. Right now it can't be copyrighted. So legally that makes it yours to print and sell as well. Now you not only have your portfolio to sell but you have every AI generated image available for sale. Technically AI just upgraded you from an artists to a gallery owner and artists.
Let's be fair in thought. 1% of artists make a gallery showing. However crafters and other marketers can make a living using AI images and their images. I've seen a lot of them that do that shouldn't because ...well that's another discussion.
Last point. Have you seen the difference between artists who's seen and studied subjects personally vs someone who has no knowledge of the subject but just interpreted a photograph. Never makes the highest levels of art unless some idiot who has no idea what they are looking at but has money/power says it's high level art. Well AI is going to be that second level artists forever. Sure it's going to knock us out of certain markets but it's going to open up the ones that matter. To make a living we are going to sell AI art, yet we get to see ideas tried for our own knowledge.
Here's a test you ought to try out. Ask AI to make an illustration of let's say a brain and label it's parts. You will find the results interesting.
Closing: AI is going to educate a lot of people. A lot of people learn by watching or doing. This group of people are now going to get a chance to excel with the intelligence they were born with. The illustrations we now have are too far and few between. Society is still dysfunctional. Art corrects a lot of things. We aren't there, our subjects of art and styles is growing redundant. We see many things but we still don't clearly see where we need to go. I firmly believe we're gifted to have AI. As with all tools can we wield them in a productive way or destructive way.
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Joke on them, i cant take and edit photos of my art properly 😂
Also i love to use gradients and dark colors that are imposible to reproduce with the 24 bit RGB System, maybe that is one of the reason why i cant take a proper image😅
HA-- beat the system! - Mia, Art Prof Staff
I just started using AI for creating new paintings... AI can create print not painting
It's definitely multi-dimensional! - Mia, Art Prof Staff
Protection from what?
From your art being stolen and used for machine learning so that AI can create “art.” And then companies use AI “art” rather than commissioning a human artist. So then before you know it, you’re out of work as an artist, and you were never compensated for your art that was stolen for AI purposes.
@@purplecarrotstirfry people looking at your art isn't stealing your art....
And if you can be put out of business by AI art then you really weren't bringing much to the table, were you?
@@mansquatch2260 This was posted by someone who hasn't drawn in their life, and you can tell. Because that missed the whole point of it. I don't know it just reads me as a bit out of touch to the situation lol.