WHO'S to BLAME for the Verstappen Vs Norris Crash? (you won't like this...)

[@juggernaut316]

notice how Max has no problem putting two wheels outside the white line to avoid a collision when he gets squeezed, yet Lando refused to budge an inch and just let the collision happen.

[@Awaks]

Notice how the "give me space" brigade literally had no idea that actually happened in the past?
Could be that the lot actually don't care and are on an agenda based mission, but that could just be me tho.
Same ones who ignored Max avoiding some silly lunges from Lando which would've actually caused crashes much earlier in the race, and even as far back as the sprint.
Swap in Alonso, Sainz, Charles, and even LH in there instead of Lando and;
◇Overtake would've been completed in maximum, 2 lunges
◇There would have been no collision in the turn. At most an extremely minor tap

[@Don-Royall]

​@@Awaksdoesn't men that Max should be allowed to drive ungentlemanly.

[@mouseDown83]

@@Don-Royall I admire your love for the beauty of the sport but F1 is won within the boundaries of the rules.

[@Don-Royall]

@@mouseDown83 Nonsense talk, FIA choose moey over the consistency of the rules.
They was already an unwritten run that you can't move under breaking, he forced them to write.
Cool he was breaking unwritten rules, now he is breaking written ones, Now i genuinely believe they see as the great white hope, a big FU to Lewis.

[@H0lyFr0ggy]

6:50 Vertappen picked the straight line from the very beginning knowing that any steering with a puncture might make the puncture worse (he felt that the tires was off at the corner and wasnt anymore on the straight). Lando had much more speed at this time and came from the back picking this line when he saw that Max was already there.

[@CaptainBinkie]

I agree.
And besides, Max has the duty to get out of the way, leave the racing line because he has a damaged car.
It was simply foolish of Norris to overtake him like that knowing that Max had a punctured tyre.
Max could have lost control of his car when Lando passed him that way with such speed.
I agree with a lot that the commentator says but this action was not dangerous because of Max, it was dangerous because Lando shouldn’t overtake a damaged car like that.
I also wonder how much influence a punctured tyre had on Max’s ability to steer straight in that particular moment.
I’m getting sick and tired of all those people who judge Max negatively because he wouldn’t purposely put Lando’s life in danger.
It was absolutely uncalled for Lando to overtake him at that moment in that manner.

[@dden2240]

It was Norris that pushed Max to the grass at the start a week ago.

[@LionBlu2000]

Exactly. Video author showed his lack of consistency and just made up BS blame. Max was not pushing anything off the track, he moved his car to the side of the track to get to the pits safely. It's Lando who (again) tried to pass him like crazy. Tongue-tied youtubers should find better field to show their skills.

[@Hello_there_obi]

Race starts are a different ball game to the race itself. Think harder next time.

[@dden2240]

@@Hello_there_obi the race is start to finish. Both drivers were trying to protect their positions. Norris had the DRS zone coming up, with more experience he will get better at setting up his pass.

[@GerardSharkey]

Not really a fan of any team. Huge Prancing Pony looms over shoulder.

[@F1_Unraveled]

haha. Quite simply put it's the only piece of F1 related anything that i have for a background.

[@PAULSWorld131]

First part analysis great, second part completely ridiculous. Norris drove Verstappen onto the grass at one of the reent racestarts. He got NO penalty for it at all. This was exactly the same.

[@BlissifiedHH]

A few things i'd like to have my say on. I dont think Lando was pushing the way he did for a win because he didnt believe in himself, what i saw was a driver who's new to winning and very desperate to get more of it. As for Max i saw a guy who's very pissed off that his team basically threw away his lead which i do think lead to Max putting a bit more aggression into his defending, and although he did move late 3 times i think it was, i still think the defending was pretty fair, and he still left space. He could've also easily started defending with more aggression given Landos divebombs that were out of control.
I personally put the incident that they made contact on to be mostly on Max to blame, he is the one who moved afterall and effectively "steered" into Lando. But i also think Lando could have easily avoided it, but i think Landos lack of experience and such may have ruined that for him. We also need to remember that we've never seen these 2 race hard against eachother, this was their first time i believe, and it wasnt the prettiest. But i do also think you can make the argument that Max might have expected another divebomb hence why he moved slightly to the left.
As for the move after you brought up about Max weaving infront of Lando after they both got out on track, i do agree that it was stupid and he should get a penatly for dangerous driving for it, but i also think that that moment pointed out that Lando needs to work on his mentality, because by no means should he keep chasing Max and try to overtake him with a puncture. Lando pretty much destroyed him own car by not really nursing the car right away like Max more tried to do, but then again that's in the heat of the moment and experience that are the factors there. Overall, both drivers made mistakes that they could have done better. It's so amazing seeing Lando being up there with a good car now and fighting for wins like he deserves, and i also think that Max's wheel to wheel is more refined and fair now. Rest of this season will hopefully be amazing

[@whatshendrix]

The part that you say that Max was absolutely crazy is precisely where YOU lose your marbles and start sounding like a complete idiot.
He's driving with a puncture, minimizing steering input and moving off the racing line is absolutely the right thing to do. Qualifying ban for something like this is just you coming up with childish nonsense.

[@CaptainBinkie]

Exactly what I think.
In my opinion it was a racing incident.
Lando is quite obsessed with defeating Max somehow.
He fights nobody the way he fights Max.
He’s so obsessed that he opened the door for George in Barcelona and he opened the door again for Oscar in the sprintrace.
Other drivers would not have made that mistake because they oversee the whole picture.
Lando has tunnelvision where it comes to fighting Max.

[@whatshendrix]

@@CaptainBinkie Yup. Also when you look back Lando has always had trouble overtaking and defending his position. Max moving under braking wouldn't make such a huge difference to other drivers here, since the track is quite wide and Lando's pace advantage was considerable.

[@mauricerose3082]

"A hairpin turn (also hairpin bend, or hairpin corner) is a bend in a road with a very acute inner angle, making it necessary for an oncoming vehicle to turn about 180° to continue on the road."

[@Hello_there_obi]

Spoken like someone who doesn’t understand the regs or how cars work under braking 😂.
You say you think he’s come along from 2021 and yet you rightly label him as mental when he runs lando off the road.
Inconsistent and ignorant.

[@nicola4543]

Thanks for the vid

[@vertigoz]

Max should have handled the place before, as Lando has done previously for going out of track. But you have two laws

[@Peterecgfxdg-]

That was a penalty for Norris to bow correctly. Forcing another driver off the track.

[@mkhonzamlungelo8482]

You did try not to be bias, but you didn’t touch on what the rules are saying with regards to what Max was doing on the braking zone which will change a lot of what you where explaining about Max.

[@jgprs]

The main issue here is Max moving right and then left to squeeze Lando. It’s the double move that makes it wrong in my opinion.

[@matthewsmith8249]

When it’s a battle for P1, Max would rather crash than be over taken. That’s what Lando learned. Conversely, Max learned that Lando will hold his ground give him no quarter.

[@matthewsmith8249]

Nice treatment on the event.

[@Wietsevisser82]

Lol second part of you views are pretty weird. Verstappen is moving out of the racing line why would he expect Norris overtaking him after the incident at the inside also with a busted tire? Why would Verstappen need a big penalty there? Rule is he needs to leave the racing line which he does.

[@TimBiester-yu6hu]

Lando is to blame. Just a juvenile kid who want his 'pacifier' and whine about it he did not get it😊

[@mkhonzamlungelo8482]

Drivers don’t have to drive a certain way because it’s Max they are driving according to the rules which Max doesn’t

[@matzrap4052]

verstappen moves under braking... i belive thats illegal.

[@Awaks]

Maybe just watch his onboard footage instead of all your generic bot speak?
Not even the stewards, post-race, agree with this silly notion birthed from the same lvl of desperation Lando had

[@matzrap4052]

@@Awaks 3 consecutive laps he star breaking and THEN moves to block.
its not the first time stewards look to the other side with this kind of "moves" and not only with verstappen...
if you ever have gone to any track to race, youll knew that that is one of the more dangerous movements you can do in a race track...
and lando loses it, yes, AFTER the first move under braking.
stop deffending verstappen just for beeing verstappen.

[@BlissifiedHH]

​@@Awaks I mean if you do look at the onboards we can see and hear Max move under braking. Out of the 3 times he does, 1 time doesnt effect Lando at all, 1 time he does need to back out to an extent or change his line. And the last one where Max actually moved the least is when they made contact, so although it wasnt a big move, Max still moved in the braking zone

[@TorqueFormulaWon]

Thank you for talking about Max holding Norris after the contact. I think Max deserved another penalty for the clean move Norris pulled off when Max kept his foot in round the outside. Jolyon mentioned this in his analysis.
Max is nuts imo and there was more than just the contact that deserved talking about, a bit like Jeddah qhere he was repeatedly over the line and making uo his own race track.

[@matthewsmith8249]

That, and after the incident, Max to squeeze Lando off the track while both cars were damaged.

[@mkhonzamlungelo8482]

You did try not to be bias, but you didn’t touch on what the rules are saying with regards to what Max was doing on the braking zone which will change a lot of what you where explaining about Max.