Toranaga Kills Yabushige - Kashigi Death Scene | Shōgun Episode 10
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Toranaga tells his plan to Kashigi Yabushige before his dead. Toranaga will win the war against Ishido and become the Shogun, Tonagaga execute Yabushige.
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Yabushige: Dude I brought you Anjin remember
Toranaga: Yeah I just keep him around for the lolz
😂
Toranaga: "He ain't gonna die either coz he too funny" 😂😂
So true, 😂it's like a mock to John but also a compliment cause John has naval knowledge
toranaga also wanted a friend him saying he's funny is basically saying they are friends.
I feel like it was almost meta. Blackthorne is presented as Toranaga’s ace up his sleeve- but really it was Mariko and he ends up not super crucial to the plot or Toranaga’s plan. But he’s entertaining so you still want him in the story lol
"Why tell a dead man the future?" Badass in its simplicity. Like getting your own personalized haiku poem before you die.
Thats what he said when he got the cannons from anjin hiding it from toranaga
@@reanukeeves3692 That’s also why he smiled because he finally realized that Omi is the snitch all along since Omi was with him when he said this.
@@nont18411the game is the game. Just like Marlo, Yabu also learnt the rules
Toranaga likes having Omi around. He's smarter than his uncle and will keep him on his toes.
lol
Yabushige had the coolest Seppuku in cinema history. No bullshit, went straight for it, smiled, and done!
In the book, he manages to stab his belly 4 times before indicating he was ready to be beheaded.
Thats why toranaga smiles back he went out a badass eveb tho he was a snake.I remember reading that if you were a coward they wouldn't cut your head off just let you bleed out and cry out in pain so you wouldn't regain your honor n die a coward, so you had to not show fear n die like a man if you were hated they would screw you over so you die in shame.
Yabushige was amazing but that title should go to Hanshiro Tsugumo from Harakiri. Amazing movie. One of the best of all time.
@@matthewdietzen6708 thought a proper Seppuku involves three cuts not four stabs.
@@vincegalila7211 well, technically, I think Yabu stabbed his belly, then made the cut, removed the blade, and repeated the process. I think he did it 4 times to try and flex his self-control, as a final act of vanity.
Rodrigues really nailed it down in his final warning to Blackthorne.
"When you see it, ask yourself: What kind of a man holds power in such a place?"
"Wait...it was shogun the whole time!?"
"Always has been...
Underrated comment.
"I shogunned because I liked it...and I was good at it." -Toranaga probably
@@Jim-Mc”I did it for me”
"And that is why I must become FX's Shogun now streaming on Hulu" - Toranaga
@@Jim-Mcit was at this moment toranaga becomes shogunberg
Literally every scene of this series featuring Ishido was him just getting really really pissed but holding back his anger lol
That's power for you, comes great responsibility
Except for lusting after Ochiba’s
@@Oakland510was not lust,politics.
@@vre7474 he talked about superficial stuff when proposing marriage
@@Oakland510can't blame him for that
Yabushige has always looked at Toranaga as being a higher man than him, but just before he dies, he realizes who Toranaga is: “You’re no different from the rest of us, you don’t have any higher ideals or principles, you just want power”. Toranaga talks about unifying Japan and I think Yabushige knows that’s just BS. That’s why he laughs at Toranaga. He’s almost acknowledging him, like “I see who you are, but well played”, and Toranaga smirks in return, acknowledging Yabushige.
Yabushige, more than most people and in his last moments, can see Toranaga for exactly who he is and Toranaga knows this. It’s a knowing smile/smirk.
There’s a clear respect between these two. They’re both deceptive, manipulative, strong, sneaky, charismatic, survivors. They see these things in each other.
I think they became almost equal in that moment. Yabushige picked the wrong side but played his hand near perfect. It’s a good thing he understood the importance of a will.
@@Glogdome In that split moment just before Yabushige dies, their lord/vassal relationship goes away and it’s just two men. It’s a clear contrast with Hiromatsu and Mariko, who both died still serving Toranaga blindly. Like you say, Yabushige dies nearly as his equal.
なるほどね～。
皆さんのコメント読んでからこのシーン見返すと鳥肌。
Toranaga is Avon Barksdale. yabushige is stringer bell
@@Glogdome Not sure I agree - Yabushige did pick the wrong side but he, throughout the show, NEVER plays his hand right, and it's almost always used for comedic effect; the fact that no matter how much betraying and side-changing he does, he just ends up getting in MORE trouble every time.
They were smirking at each other because, at the end of the day, Yabushige ended up serving Toranaga’s cause excellently; whether he was aware of it or not, and he died with the satisfaction of that knowledge.
That's not why he's smiling at all.
Yabushige is obsessed with how people die - their final moments. That's why he smiles.
@@Th3ch0s3n0n3s you are correct.
No. Toranaga smiled to say " yes, im same as you in my secret heart, i wanted to be shogun, now take it to grave"
I don't think he died smiling because he was happy to have served, at all. He always wanted to survive, so he'd serve whoever could best guarantee that, and loyalty was just a word. However, I also don't think he smiled because he wanted to learn about death due to his obsession with it. He spent far too much effort avoiding death and trying to learn instead from others' deaths. If he smiled for a reason -- and I wasn't even sure he smiled on my original viewing; I thought it was more of a grimace and a "what are you waiting for?" look to Toranaga -- I think it might have been because he was going out by his own hand, on his own terms, like Rodriguez said in episode 1.
@@awlabrador you are also right. I love your point of view, too. I just love the part that they smirked at each other in the end and some form of understanding, whatever it was-my interpretation or yours-passed between them
Yabushige was my favorite character. Despite everything
Nooo, my marikooo 😢
My favorite rat
mine too
He really nailed it in this character.
My favorite as well. I held out hope that he would be spared, but understand the culture, that was never in the cards nor would he likely accept it.
The sequel is 200 years of the Toranaga shogunate.
Does it end with the Bakumatsu? Edit: yes it does!
It called Gintama
@@mulawarmankwsuper Rurouni Kenshin.
It’s also called James Clavell’s “Gai-Jin”
The sequel is The Last Samurai with Tom Cruise, where the boy emperor ends the samurai I.e Shogun rule
Yabushige started the show with being saved from the cliff by the Anjin and ended the show with being sent down the cliff by Toranaga.
Poetic.
on my momma this show is beautiful 🙏
So true 👍
Full circle
like pottery
He also kneels helplessly before Toranaga at the very spot the Anjin had in the beginning of the show
The smirk he gives Yobushige after he asks if in his heart he really wanted to be Shogun before chopping his head off was GREAAAT. He didn’t tell a dead man the future but he did confirm it.
Torenaga’s smirk was him saying “yes, I’ve always wanted to be Shogun.”
I wouldnt say toranaga he is a good person or a moral paragon. I wouldn't say he is a villain or evil. He is very pragmatic and knew what to do in order to win, he is certainly power hungry and very wise on what to do with his power.
The book implies he didn't really want to be. The smirk to me means he's sort of mocking Yabushiges belief in that.
Lol, the whole time while Toronaga is explaining his whole layout of the plan, Yabushige was going through it 😭. Especially when Toronaga told him he expected him to see the end. Yabushige's character was extremely well played. SHOW IS A BANGERRRR
Toranaga: "Yes man I always want to be the shogun. It was me who was the antagonist the entire time muhuhahaha"
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😂😂😂😂😂 epic!!!
Really bad exposition
Spoilers
I read the book
yeah pretty much
And then he shoguned all over the place
Lady Ochiba sees Lord Toranagas secret heart and that is why she fears him
Yeah and then proceeds to make the most dangerous for her and her son guy become to sole ruler xD Huuge mistake
@@MrSamurajoIchiba knows Toronaga is loyal to the heir so he would not harm him. But she changing her mind so suddenly is an obvious plot hole. Through the story, her animosity towards Toronaga was impressed time and time again. Mariko's death is insufficient imo to change that. These people were not unnerved by death.
@@richardbachman1260 In the book, one of the reasons Ochiba does not send the heir to battle was because Toranaga will have to kill him, as he thinks it "regretfully". Toranaga always has contingencies. And he is loyal only to himself and his goal. As Yabushige notes in that version.
@@richardbachman1260 She experienced so many political maneuvers and backstabbings in her life and suddenly trusts a guy who is well known for being shady over a guy that was under her influence. If this is not a mistake then I don't know what is xd
@@richardbachman1260 She sided with Ishido but not realising the power hungry snake he is, killing Mariko is more than sufficient imo and spoilers, she was right to distrust Toranaga as he eventually becomes Shogun as was always his intention. The Heir ends up commiting Sepuku.
Toranaga is the ultimate Machiavellian.
There are only two differences between him and the other wanna-be rulers: he is actually related closely enough to the emperor to be eligible as Shogun, and he won.
@@KoflerDavid However, in real life, it’s unknown whether Tokugawa Ieyasu was actually a Minamoto descendant or not or if being a Minamoto necessary for the position of shogun. He could be bullshitting his way to the throne by fabricating his lineage (just like many other daimyos in that era. Oda was a Taira pretender. Toyotomi, who’s a peasant born, used his military might to force the Fujiwara clan to adopt him, hence he got a position of “Taiko” which only reserved to Fujiwara family) to make him a shogun. The emperor couldn’t say no either because Tokugawa had a strongest army in the land so he let it slide with legitimacy and recognized Tokugawa as a shogun.
@@KoflerDavidthe other leaders are just stupid
can the antagonist be the main character and the Good guy of the story?
@@jmgonzales7701 definitely so. Check out Dune.
Maybe the real Shogun was the seppukus we had along the way
Hai
Nobunaga Oda once said, "Victory is achieved through careful planning and execution."
Part of that was his belief that most of the factors that lead to victory on the battlefield are determined by the preparation one takes well before meeting your enemy on the battlefield. It seems Toranaga took his ally/partner's philosophy to heart
Huh Tsun Sze?
Maybe he did friend
On his victory over Imagawa forces, he took a roll of dice against overwhelming odd and through trickery was able to slain Lord Imagawa. His advisors told him to held up in his castle, but that will only delay the inevitable. He and his men went out in the middle of night in the midst of driving rain and managed to totally surprised Imagawa forces.
@@lennylim4959 no, Toranaga is Japanese Batman without mask
Toronaga is a fictional character based of Oda nobunaga and in a way is a tribute to his character
Here, we realize that Toranaga is no different from Ishido. He’s a power-hungry warlord. We were believing the whole time that he was avoiding war to protect innocent lives, but in reality he was just covertly destabilizing Osaka until they were so weak that he could just walk in and take the throne of Shogun.
And poor Ishido in reality was actualy loyal to Taiko's heir (Toyotomi Hideyori) to the end.
You could learn Toranaga intention from one of the early episodes. After he denied wishing being Shogun, John saw his suit of armor. It was described to him as being handcrafted by Toranaga's specifications to look like an armor from Minowara period.
i dont get it
@@jmgonzales7701 Minowara were ancestors of Toranaga and bearers of Shogun title. He claimed he doesn't care about the title of his ancestors. but ordering this armor shows otherwise.
bro youre so right. the show said the armor appeared to toranaga in a dream. and in the last scene he was like "my dream will finally be realized." his dream was to be shogun.
I said this on a different clip but what's funny is that this isn't the first time Hiroyuki Sanada's character beheads Tadanobu Asano's character. It also happened in 47 Ronin when Hiroyuki Sanada was playing Oishi and Tadanobu Asano was playing Lord Kira.
Practice makes perfect.
That's really why they smiled at each other.
Hiroyuki Sanada, like in 47 Ronin, actually decapitated Tadanobu Asano in this scene. Rachel Kondo loved it so much so she kept it in the final cut for realism.
Sanada's like the go to actor for any Japanese period piece. I'm pretty sure he's in the Last Samurai too.
Noice! Play enough historical dramas and I guess that can happen.
“A man who passed the sentence, shall swing the sword.” - Ned Stark
Toranaga is Ned Stark if he plays it smart the Game of Thrones
@@mulawarmankwsuperToranaga is like Aegon Targaryen, the conqueror.
@@marcusanark2541 Nah hes more like Baelish in political warfare mixed with Stannis in actual warfare.
@@whatisreddin7367id say he’s more like tywin
@@whatisreddin7367 Peter Baelish is more like the Shogun before him lol. who came from nothing
The beauty of Yabushige's character is his attitude towards death. His fear throughout most of the series is not just of being killed, but of dying for a lost cause.
One can see that Toranaga really appreciates his free spirit, this execution being basically a veiled reward. He denies Yabushige of a dishonourable death, forces the man to pick him as his second and during those last moments together he gives him a glimpse of his secret heart, that one that is buried deep for none to see.
So when Yabushige understands what his actions meant for his liege and for Japan as a whole, he quickly goes out with a grin on his face. This is the "beautiful" death he craved.
tbh i think yabu is not really a person who just fears death, its about what his death will be. Like u said he doesn't want to die for the lost cause.
The best way to grasp the mentality of Torunaga and Yabushige is how they handle poems. Torunaga's is a sophisticated mind that grasps the complexity of formulating perfect words and beauty to create memorable sequences. Yabushige's is rather crude and simple; yet, so easy to read in the eyes of others.
Translate that into their plans and you begin to see why Torunaga is still able to stay ahead of his enemies while Yabushige's hand is constantly being exposed. You can also see that with how the regent is viewed through the eyes of Mariko. Yabu is constantly asking what is his lord's plan, hoping for a simple answer while Mariko is able to see her master's masquerade with perfect clarity.
Nice.
But that’s the great thing about Yabushige; all through the show, he’s shown to be a rather normal man (with weird impulses). He’s not some high-level chess player; he’s just a regular dude trying to move up in the world…and not die. In a world where everyone wants to be Toranaga, it’s very refreshing to deal with a straightforward dude like Yabushige.
@Scientist118 that couldn't be further from true, Yabushige is obsessed with poetry to the point of collecting the last words of dying men in order to search for meaningful phrases.
Kiri-no-Kata also says when Toranaga repeats a line from Marikos haiku that those words are "too beautiful for him" and asks him who wrote them, implying Toranaga is not necessarily a highly skillfill poet. We do see him engage in an exchange of haikus with Mariko but we also see Omi do so with Yabushige.
If anything Yabushige is the better poet
I wouldnt say toranaga he is a good person or a moral paragon. I wouldn't say he is a villain or evil. He is very pragmatic and knew what to do in order to win, he is certainly power hungry and very wise on what to do with his power.
Yes but no. Yabushige's plan always back-fired because his nephew was the spy all along. His nephew has been feeding Torunaga on Yabushige's plan since Esp. 1. This is evidenced by Yabushige telling his nephew he would not report the capture of Arijin's ship in Esp. 1 because "Why tell a dead man the future?". Torunaga repeated the same phrase to him before the final stroke.
Hesitation is defeat, and he accept his victory like a champ
Too much Sekiro you have played youngling
@@THEINVISIBLEWARRIORRNext episode, Yabu holds his fallen head and becomes a new enemy
@@Xerclipse Oh snap!
I politely disagree. I actually think that this entire show is all about the deep internal struggles and rewards of being patient. The virtue of waiting for the perfect time to strike. If Toranaga had flailed around, initiating Crimson Sky the second he was scared, he would have failed. The hawk in the opening episode is a perfect metaphor. Everyone knows he is waiting for his chance to strike, and they assume that he'll do exactly that out of desperation. Instead he waits, lets his enemies grow divided, bored, takes advantage of confusion, lets them grow impatient and fumble around trying to figure out the next move. Great show, with a multitude of great actors.
The most cunning person Lord Toranaga
dude was very intelligent
God that smirk from Toranaga is just glorious lol u devious genius
Crimson sky not a violent rush attack to osaka castle
Crimson sky marikos sacrifice swaying regents and ochibas favor to be on toranagas side.
This show is pratically a legal drama, it focuses on feudal japanese politics and have bits of action here in there. Thou the action is very short and is not the point, i somehow prefer it that way. I like how most of the action is handled here its mostly through irregular warfare its often who gets the jump on someone or outsmart the other rather than just pure big battle that Hollywood is costumed to.
Great scene but I am surprised Anjin wasn't present as, in the books and previous series, Yabu wanted Anjin there as his witness and because he saw Anjin as his "only friend". Regardless, great series.
It would’ve felt off since the show really didn’t develop their relationship enough to warrant such a statement out of Yabushige
@@AllEyezSee I mean, he did ask the Anjin to be his 2nd.... Seems like a strong statement.
@@peasleadwell he was also responsible for Mariko death
It is a good story point but the direction really was a Japanese focus. Cosmo would have been a distraction to the climax.
i didnt even fcking see the episode yet and youtube randomly recommended me this video lmaoo, k
report channel. The episode just came out ew hours ago(not yet even out in other platform) and this attention wh*re immediately uploaded with a spoiler title. niceee
yep ...me too..people shouldnt put spoilers in their fuking thumbnail...at least not this early after episode drops ffs
I thought this was just a little part but this part reveal everything, I have to watch the last episode first.
Nobody forced me to click but I won’t pass by🤣🤣🤣
@@yoshiYoishIRLcry harder, dont watch it
Toranaga was out there playing 3D chess while everyone else was playing checkers.
This show is pratically a legal drama, it focuses on feudal japanese politics and have bits of action here in there. Thou the action is very short and is not the point, i somehow prefer it that way. I like how most of the action is handled here its mostly through irregular warfare its often who gets the jump on someone or outsmart the other rather than just pure big battle that Hollywood is costumed to.
everyone else was playing with sticks in the mud*
I always thought Blackthorn was the main character until I watch the last episode then look at the show's title
" why tell a dead man the future "Exactly what yabushige said to his son at the start of the series, so he revealed to him that his hair was a spy all the time.
He said i just keep Blackthorn around for the bullshxt 😂😂😂
In the book he thought of Blackthorn like one of his training hunting falcons, point it at a target and let it loose, giving it a scrap of meat from the kill.
I like to think the smile Toranaga gave him was him answering yes to the Shogun question and Yabushige understood it in his final seconds
No hesitation whatsoever. Went out like a total legend. Rest in Power Yabu
“I don’t control the wind, I study it.”
A true Machiavellian character if ever there was one.
I wouldnt say toranaga he is a good person or a moral paragon. I wouldn't say he is a villain or evil. He is very pragmatic and knew what to do in order to win, he is certainly power hungry and very wise on what to do with his power.
More Sun-Tzu than Machiavelli.
@@billbaggins1688 No. Only in the way that Sun-Tzu was born closer to Japan.
Opportunistic pragmatism is Machiavelli's central aim, while discipline is Sun-Tzu's central aim. Toranaga would happily throw away discipline if he saw an opportunity that furthered his goal of being Shogun, and so is more Machiavellian.
Let me put it another way... A follower of Sun-Tzu would always be seeking to surround themselves with people who are capable, and would try to keep that retinue alive. A Machiavellian, by contrast, will surround themselves with people they can sacrifice to further their own success. Toranaga uses the deaths of even capable allies to move himself closer to being Shogun.
(ADD) Let me put it yet another way: A follower of Sun-Tzu has morals and principles, and would sacrifice themselves for any of a number of duties. A Machiavellian doesn't - and would murder every good person they know to gain or maintain their hold on power.
coolest Seppuku ever, just sitting on his butt and stab himself with 0 hesitation and then turn around and smirk
Honestly kinda mad they killed him off. He was the most interesting and entertaining character. Bravo to the actor.
I was also upset, but it was inevitable. He doomed himself by trying to play both sides
they killed him off... twenty minutes minutes before the ending?
@@Turambar_499 friends with everyone. Allies to no one -etho
@@blitzendegen yes you are correct what is your question
Yabushige is executed in the same place he would have died in Episode 1 had Blackthorne not saved him.
What a fu king show this was. They managed to make all the climactic historic moments of the story occur in a brief expositional flash forward after the end of the story and it’s still a completely incredible scene.
It felt like a perfect circle, the start to the finish. A loop.
Yabushige’s seppuku in this version is far more intimate and powerful than the 1980 version.
Why tell a dead man the future. Genius writing.
It’s what Yabu said to Omi. Omi was Toranaga’s spy all along.
This show is pratically a legal drama, it focuses on feudal japanese politics and have bits of action here in there. Thou the action is very short and is not the point, i somehow prefer it that way. I like how most of the action is handled here its mostly through irregular warfare its often who gets the jump on someone or outsmart the other rather than just pure big battle that Hollywood is costumed to.
@@jmgonzales7701 you are absolutely right about that. It's not focused on the action. It's focused more on the era.
@@jmgonzales7701 And that is exactly why i loved it! amazing writing, and it respects the audience's intelligence too unlike so many films and tv series we see these days..
Yabushige was played by a great actor. His cluelessness in this scene was spectacular.
If this show doesn’t win an Emmy, the whole award scene is a farce.
As long as its not for cosmo's acting lol
Yabushige, the man obsessed with updating his wills, and the master of the sigh.
Lol
Toranaga truly sending Yabushige on a trip to Belize, where Mariko went to.
I thought they went to Ibiza
no, he just made an incredible soccer ball out of him now the fish will enjoy it
I like his method of stabbing himself: He wasn't afraid to die and he knew himself well after studying death: The only way he would be able to do that which he had so desperately tried to avoid was as fast and instinctually as possible.
not many people will understand your comment!
Spoiler from the book: Only Lord Toranaga knows Lady Ochiba's secret. The Taiko couldn't get her pregnant after several pillowing so in desperation, she ran off to the fields in the middle of the night and seduced a dirty old peasant to have sex with her. Toranaga accidentally witnessed it all that's why she hated him so much and wanted him dead. Mariko's death was necessary to change her mind.
Ohhhhh😮
The writers could always twist this plot line by making the heir's true father Akechi Jinsai in the next season.
😮 oh thats a secret that could destroy the Shogunate.
@@yavuzkoroglu7792 There will not be a next season.
@@yavuzkoroglu7792 Japanese Legend said that Akechi still alive, he become Monk Tenkai one of Ieyasu's advisers
What is truly astounding is that while they make their play for power, there is still an emperor in Japan being kept in seclusion and devoid of any real authority yet this dynasty which still exist today has lasted 1500 years. Fun fact, Hideyoshi who conquered the entire Japan peninsula was of peasant origin and the Emperor refuse to give him the title of Shogun as his origin was far too humble. The actor for Toranaga also acted in a movie called the The Twilight Samurai which is an amazing film and worth the watch.
He failed his sudoku puzzle.
🗿
Yabushige did not betray me until the end. ``Death Haiku'' That was a silly haiku that an anime character would say, and it was so funny it made my stomach hurt.
here is the actual death haiku written by Yabushige:
No more sides to choose
No more wry smile
Bearded head falls
many yet to follow
It was also the death poem of the tea lady madam...they borrowed it.
Blue skies rise above the earth
Life is but a butterflies dream
Death, the way to eternal life.
@@ericworstis this from the book?
@@factspoken9062 Well, it's different from Japanese, isn't it?. Is that how it was translated in English? The subtitles have been translated in a way that conveys Yabushige's personality, but also conveys his deep feelings.
Japanese haiku says something completely different.
The subtitles were probably chosen based on the judgment that Western audiences would be able to better understand Yabushige's deep feelings. Or is it a haiku based on the original work?
I could see that this work carefully considered the differences in mentality between the East and West, as well as the discrepancies in how they were received. That's an amazing piece of work. thank you.
By the way, the haiku that Oumi read out in Japanese is:
"Don't burn the dead body, don't bury it, let it be exposed in the open, and feed the hungry dogs."
This haiku made me laugh. It's childish, free writing that can't really be called a haiku. However, although the written content is laugh-inducing and typical of Yabushige, I felt that there were deep feelings lurking deep within Yabushige's heart.
However, if you translated it directly to Westerners, you might be concerned that they would focus on "Japanese people being barbaric".
The Japanese people laughed out loud at the expression, which was typical of Yabushige. This is Yaegaki. However, everyone probably understood the sentiment behind this haiku.
Shogun is the Godfather, Game of Thrones and the Usual Suspects all wrapped up into one. It’s brilliant.
Yabu's sudden gaze and smirk shows relief despite facing a bitter end..
Any Bond villain: 'Let me tell you my evil plan before I leave you alone to die an agonizingly slow death in a complex (and prone to failure) plot"
Toranaga: "Why tell a dead man the future" ... slash ... done.
I'm totally with Team Blofeld here!
In a way, Yabushige died of a very bad stomachache.
"Well Actually..." he died of decapitation.
one of the best shows ever
Toranaga is like Aizen from the anime Bleach. It was all apart of his plan. Nobody realized until the very end. He even explained that he studies the wind . Meaning he is constantly observing, watching, waiting, analyzing, all the sh*t thats happening in proximity. Psychopath yes. But he still had some decency in him. It shows how he brought peace over the next few centuries. This is a great show
psycopath or sociopath? ist even possible to be one of those without being evil? like there is a difference between morality and being right.
More like Machiavelian and Pragmatic.
He doesnt seem to enjoy violence, to be a psycho. While he has his ambition, its not out of psychotic tendencies but machiavelian.
@@bobbyfirmansyah8580 not after he smirked before he killed yasubige
I like Yabushige, maybe antagonist but he's reasonable man
well tbh an antagonist can be likeable. The concept of a "pro-antagonist" is not commonly used, but it can be interpreted in a few different ways:
Protagonist with Antagonistic Qualities: In some narratives, the protagonist may exhibit characteristics or behaviors traditionally associated with antagonists. For example, they might make morally questionable decisions, engage in unethical actions, or conflict with other characters, including those traditionally seen as protagonists. In this sense, the protagonist may possess both positive and negative traits, blurring the line between hero and anti-hero.
Sympathetic Antagonist: Alternatively, a pro-antagonist could refer to an antagonist whose motivations and actions are presented in a sympathetic or understandable light. While they may still oppose the protagonist and serve as a source of conflict, their perspective is explored in a way that allows audiences to empathize with their struggles or motivations. This can add depth to the character and make the conflict more nuanced.
Ambiguous Character Alignment: Another interpretation of a pro-antagonist could involve a character whose allegiance and motivations are ambiguous or fluid throughout the narrative. They may initially appear to be an antagonist but later align with the protagonist or vice versa. This ambiguity can create tension and unpredictability in the story, challenging traditional notions of heroism and villainy.
In essence, a pro-antagonist blurs the lines between protagonist and antagonist, either by embodying antagonistic qualities while still serving as the main character or by presenting antagonists in a more sympathetic or morally complex light. This can add depth and complexity to the narrative, inviting audiences to question traditional notions of heroism and villainy.
The death poem of Yabushige is that of the legendary courtesan "Jigoku-Dayu (The Hell Courtesan)" who lived about 100 years before the time of the Shogun's story. She was an unparalleled beauty, dressed in a kimono with a hell pattern, and greeted her customers while chanting Buddhist prayers.
The smirk in the end is many things at once and I love it. They smirk because
1-Torunaga says what yabu said in ep1, meaning omi was snitching on him since day 1.
2-Yabu smirks because even though Torunaga and others thought he was afraid of death like a coward, Yabu stabs himself without a moment of hesitation. That smirk was like "I was never scared, it was just an obsession" and Torunaga smirks back with acknowlegement"
And 3, if Torunaga truly didnt want to be Shogun, he would just say "no" but its not that simple. Yabu stabs himself and smirks with the knowledge of seeing his lord as someone who is just like him. In a way, they are equals. And Torunaga smirks, acknowledging the point he makes.
All 3 are present in their final exchange.
Precisely. Very well explained !
He doesn't want to be a shogun, but in able to achieve what he really wants, he has to be one. The shogunate is more of a tool for him, not the actual goal.
@@webdev2670 He wants to be a Shogun, there are many hints. If he didn't want to he could've killed himself and let Yabu take charge to spare his clan misery. His desire was probably there since Mariko was a child, he was probably the one that killed the original leader and let Mariko's father take the fall. Since then he was playing a long game.
@@webdev2670 Oh he does want to be. One of the clues is the ceremonial armor Blackthorn admires in one of the episodes. Its the armor in Minowara style (Torunagas ancestors who held the shogun title) and in the show it is said to be made on Torunagas order cause he saw it in his dream.
Also Torunaga's real historical counter-part Ieiasu Tokugawa definately wasnt loyal to Taiko's son (Toyotomi Hideyori). In reality after he gained power he ordered Lady Ochiba killed. Married his daughter to Toyoyomi Hideyori and when he became adult and some opposition formed around him, he had him killed along with his daughter (Tokugawa Ieiasu's granddaughter) thus ending Toyotomi bloodline. He was cunning, powerhungry and quite dishonorable lord.
Love how decisive Yabushige suicide was. Not much ritual (sitting properly, taking off the top, slowly draw the blade). He just quickly stab himself!
I think Toranaga smiled because he still has the gumption to turn around smile at death.
What gets me is how he so easily drew and stabbed himself. When you can release your life that easily, there is little to nothing that you fear on this earth. You're free.
I mean the guy begged to be fed to the fishes. He clearly didn't really fear death.
@@hafor2846yeah that was made evident from the cliff scene in Episode 1. Death really wasn’t a big deal for him, he just wanted to have a crazy one.
it kinda reminds me of a specific religion
Lord Toranaga (Tokugawa Eiyasu) learned from Oda Nobunaga.
Congrats to Tadanobu Asano for doing such a good job. This was a great series.
Omi was also Toranaga's spy, because he was the one to whom Yabushigue said the phrase: why tell a dead man the future?
I've been to Sekigahara. It is a small town in the middle of a depression very much like they showed in that graphic.
When I got off the train, there were volunteers handing out info on the locations, history etc. I asked one of them where the battlefield was, he just looked all around while pointing to everything. Worth the visit.
Maybe don't go in winter though, snow gets deep there.
Yabushige couldn't help but turn around to turn around to see how his own head will be cut
Yabushige, along with Anjin was a honest character with their thoughts appeared to us. Every other characters had these 8 walls concealing their minds to be shown. That's why majority of Shogun fans loved Yabushige
he might have been the best character if he wasn't just a turn coat and indirectly killed mariko
@@jmgonzales7701 Mariko was dead anyway. That was her purpose in Osaka, to die and put blame on Ishido's side.
@@jmgonzales7701 Marikos death was part of the game.
I like how Yabushige doesn't perform the seppuku ritual properly. You're supposed to open your garment so your stomach is bare, and slide the blade along your stomach. He just stabs himself through his clothes. Even beaten, he gets to go out on his own terms.
Bro the no hesitation straight into it and the turn, smiling that he’s about to see the great beyond, this show is fucking supreme
wow Toranaga is such a great trickster he even tricked the viewers that all this build up would lead to an epic battle...
Is not cheeet me, i saw from start, Toranaga need slaves and nothing more, AND HE WILL DO EVRITHING TO save his life....i think he is coward. No difrent from him and Ishido, they are mans of politics and nothing more
@@moonfast-sp1vn So, playing the mind games and doing some very risky trickery is cowardly? You're funny.
@@moonfast-sp1vn lol i bet disney heroes are your role models
@@bukojoetheslapsoils8273 Ned Stark and most of his family would have survived had he resorted to misdirection and trickery.
Even FX promoted the battle. The cover of the show is Toranaga riding to battle with an army on horseback. They lied to us.
Toranaga is the ultimate... S.O.B.
Manipulation, deception, etc.
He's a real villain....
It was a mistake not taking his life early... He's a real MoFo!!!
Yes he is a villain.
However, thanks to him, Japan was able to maintain peace for a long time.
Bruh, why do you feel the need to put a spoiler in the title? Like I can't even avoid it.
Such a clever well acted show. The action may be miminal but by God the constant games being played by all were a joy to watch. Possible show of the year. ❤
I just realized this show is meant to be 1 season only. I felt sad at first, but the ending felt fitting as a series finale. Great show!
i really wish he didn't betrayed him 😭
Thats how feudal japanese politics work
It was really important regarding the plot, his betrayal lead to Mariko's death and allowing the families to leave Osaka and giving Lady Ochiba the red flag on the upcoming war. Bro was really meant to commit seppuku no matter what 😭😭😫
@@dp-im8pi wtf I absolutely forget about that , u are right xD But still... he was my favourite character. I really enjoyed the last chat between them 😭
@@masaru3585 And all of it was planned and manipulated by Torunaga.
I know some are expecting a full on battle for this finale, i did too but I kinda like this ending. It shows Toranaga is about 10 steps ahead in his critical thinking. Such a badass character that we rarely see nowadays on television. It has been a pure joy watching this series. Hopefully there's a season 2 in the future.
Don't keep your hope up the books end this way
This show is pratically a legal drama, it focuses on feudal japanese politics and have bits of action here in there. Thou the action is very short and is not the point, i somehow prefer it that way. I like how most of the action is handled here its mostly through irregular warfare its often who gets the jump on someone or outsmart the other rather than just pure big battle that Hollywood is costumed to.
There's no season two.
This scene was Shakespearean, pure and simple. A conversation between a dead man and his executioner, sharing their deepest dreams and secretes before the act is done. Something only the main character and the audience knows.
And that line “Why tell a dead man the future?” *chef’s kiss*
The trade of smiles was perfect, a small gesture that revealed they were equals all along, thats the best gift an ambitious man can get before defeat.
i love how the line "why tell a dead man the future" just exposes that Toranaga knew Yabushige was trying to work against him the entire time, and when he says "the barbarian, you have me to thank for him too" Toranaga knew (and Yabushige probably gathered that his lord knew) that whenever he actively served Toranaga it was cause he had to so just smiles in acceptance that as hard as he tried to serve himself he served Toranaga Impeccably.
If only Ned Stark schemed like Toragana.
Ned Stark had honor.
Toranaga: "Well, I've been shooting the breeze long enough, let's get this over with."
It’s funny that in 47 Ronan, the exact same thing happened
I know Ishido’s the bad guy and he pulled some pretty dick moves, but a part of me also empathizes with him - He grew up from a family of nobody’s, rose all the way up to Regent, and then when he has the upper hand people are like “my ancestor was famous and yours wasn’t, so you’re invalid”
That’s realistic at least.
In reality Ishido was the honorable guy loyal to Taiko's son to the end.
I would’ve wanted to see a bit of action with the Erasmus, since it did basically nothing mostly, but I guess this is a decent finale as well.
Nah. No Erasmus action is criminal. So much talk of the Anjins tactics and in the end it was just a distraction.
Even FX promoted the battle. The cover of the show is Toranaga riding to battle with an army on horseback. They lied to us.
@@Oakland510 I agree.
I have to say the lack of any real battle was kind of disappointing, but I guess that just wasn’t what this show was about. It was a political drama and it did it well.
since ep1, Yabushige has been obsessed about the moment of death. I think he found what he was looking for therefore the smile at the end
That smile Toranaga does is the one time any of us get to see who he truly is in his “secret heart”.
In the show, only Yabu finds out.
With that small smirk, he tells Yabu.
Bc in a way, Yabu is just like Toranaga (if Toranaga’s IQ was 100 points lower).
At dawn, on the twenty-first day of the tenth month, the Month without Gods, the main armies clashed near Sekigahara astride the North Road, in foul weather, starting with fog, followed by sleet.
By late afternoon Toranaga had won the battle and the slaughter began. Forty thousand heads were taken.
Three days later, Ishido was captured and Toranaga genially reminded him of the prophecy and sent him in chains to Osaka for public viewing, ordering the eta (the lower classes) to plant the General Lord Ishido's feet firm in the earth, with only his head outside the earth and to invite passerbys to saw at the most famous neck in the realm with a bamboo saw.
Toranaga should wear the famous real life Ieyasu's Daikoku Zukin Nari Kabuto
"If I win, anything's possible."
It doesn't matter who's the good guy and who's the bad guy, it only matters who won.
Him drawing the sword and forcing the ceremony to proceed is so cold I love this scene ❤ finally u reveal ur plans to him right before he dies smh if he had stayed loyal it wouldn’t have worked
I liked his death better in the original series
spoil me
yes spoil us
@@masaru3585 He gives his swords to Anjin-Sama, and says this is how a real samurai dies. He commits seppuku, with Hiromatsu being his second. I prefer this version of the ending, instead of Toronaga monologuing to himself about the future, he lets Yabushige know.
@@ventalariondalord2786
In the original series
General Hiromatsu didnt have to commit Seppuku and he was the one who killed Yabushige
Yabushige also give Blackthorne his swords
@@AlphaLeader42 that version sound really "better" but tbh I did liked the last chat between them. I really wish we had one episode more 😅
Lady Mariko was crimson sky
Best sequence of the finale (along with Yabu's arraignment and sentencing). Like everything else in the series, it's not what you see, it's what's behind it all. Even though he couldn't trust him, Toranaga still likes Yabushige and considers him a friend. He rightly could not let the Anjin be the second as he was for Mariko, because he had been betrayed. Toranaga could second him justly and with personal compassion. Top tier writing and performance.
Having his character be motivated by death makes it so fascinating when he finally must face it
Yabushige was the best part of this show
I cant login my Hulu account and this mf already posting spoilers....
Never go on TH-cam when you’re waiting to watch an episode
@@Oakland510 Its okay mistake happens, already got it and finished the last episode
On that battlefield somewhere a young Miyamoto Musashi is standing, waiting..
So in the end ishido was not the bad guy here, he was the only one that knew toranaga secret heart😂