Max’s comment about the developers going all in on fairy tales and giving them a souls like twist if possible would be pretty cool. But first, fingers crossed this game does really well in order for that chance to even happen.
When that song "Feel" came on, chat just started crying emojied for 3 minutes straight. Finally the atmosphere caught up to Max and he even had a brief pause. That was a great experience.
Is there a reason why some streamers don't add chat reactions on youtube uploads? Is it because chat might have typed something that youtube wouldn't like?
Playing "Feel" was the point where Lies of P felt less like a FromSoft game and more like a Supergiant game for me. A lot of Supergiant games is how they love adding miscellaneous art stuff in their games, their gameplay shines for sure, but they add moments that allow you to take breather usually through amazing artwork and music.
@@dirtiestharry6551 honestly, why do you bother to even ask? You see for yourself how the youtube comments are. Twitch is worse. Fcourse you can't really show that on youtube or it'll be instant demonetization
I’ve never watched your channel before, but you’re maybe the 5th youtuber I’ve watched play this demo. You’re the only one to actually absorb the tutorial info, not just read it aloud and proceed to ignore it all. You’re the only one to actually put effort into learning the mechanics, and unsurprisingly you seemed to enjoy the game much more. I’m really looking forward to this game even more thanks to you.
02:44:52 It was this moment that really sold the game for me. It is such a small touch, but it really made me appreciate this is more than just another soulslike. I haven't been interested in playing other Soulslike, but there is something about Lies of P that makes me believe this game wants to be more than just another soulslike. So I hope the full game is just as high quality & exciting as the demo. Excited to play it soon!!
I think the use of newspaper clips for lore and world building is a welcome departure from the Souls formula. There isn’t a need to be esoteric and vague just yet.
I don’t think he noticed that during his playthrough (did not see the whole vod) but when you listen to the whole song it does something to your character just like lying did. I just love such details!
I really like the detail of Pinnochio constantly twitching when standing still. It's like his body is made of cogs that are constantly moving him from the inside making him feel like a puppet despite looking human.
When Max put on the feel record 2:44:48 and Max paused at the same time I felt like I did, this games atmosphere is immersive as heck. Wow this game really is gonna be something incredible.
I really like how they made blade sharpening a core game play mechanic. It feels similar to a monster hunter sharpening trait but fully Pinocchiobornes original
(sees quality of life additions, mechanics, level design, and enemy design) Me: man these devs get it (the level up NPC is an absolute Waifu) Me: these devs REALLY get it.
It took me so long to realize that Venigni is supposed to be a homage to the actor Roberto Benigni who played Pinocchio in one of his movies. Really loving the little touches that the developers are sprinkling here and there with this. Also, for who is wondering, -"gni" is supposed to be pronounced as "-ñi" with the "g" silent and the same sound on the "n" as for "piñata".
Weirdly, I think my favorite part about this demo is just how long it is and how much you can do for such a "small" piece of the game. Maybe I'm just used to short-and-sweet demos, but there were a couple points where I thought, "This is where it'll cut off to tease you, right?", only to be surprised that it just kept going. Such an enjoyable (and appropriately difficult) ride the whole way through; I can't wait for the full release!
I heard people say it's longer than usual demos, so I expected first boss wouldn't be the end, but then after defeating 2nd boss and saving Gepetto, game still kept going. Good on ya devs
After finishing the demo, it took a while to realize the combat is actually more like Sekiro. Perfect guarding and landing attacks builds up a meter that will open up the enemy to be able to make "groggy" once its full which will leave them open for a fatal attack, and this applies seemingly to all enemies, bosses especially. Also looking at the parade master fight, it looked like he was groggy but somehow him turning into his 2nd phase actually canceled it
The game rewards you for playing like Sekiro; parrying and forcing enemies to be groggy. You can dodge but it's not as rewarding. I'm glad that it's not going to be another dodge roll simulator.
I tried to play through sekiro but its combat really didn’t click with me at all while I connected with this game immediately. To me it feels like dark souls at its core but with the parrying of sekiro which feels really satisfying. I prefer it a lot more than souls parrying that’s for sure lol
@@SchifferThe2nd I agree. Dodging is safer as it gives you a pretty generous amount of i-frames, but deflecting/guarding at the right time rewards you with "posture" damage on the enemy, and there's a noticeable difference in how fast you can take down a boss/miniboss using each strategy. I think it's a pretty neat risk-reward system.
@@leinad2934 Though depend the wind up animations for the clock work dolls can fuck without h people to when you should dodge though with that upgrade tree from the chair stuffs going to be real fun customizing stuff.
Blocking attacks and taking chip damage works a lot like playing without Kuro's charm, where non-perfect deflections deal a brief amount of self-damage. Combat-wise, it's actually a bit closer to Sekiro than Bloodborne. That's not really a negative cause I love Sekiro. The only personal gripe I have is that bosses (like Elden Ring) have a lot of unnatural-looking delayed attacks, allthough I think Lies of P doesn't suffer from it as much since they're all robots, so it's less immersion-breaking, but it still an annoying trial-and-error curveball if used too frequently.
It’s hilarious how close Max’s commentary was to my own feelings. After about the 5 min mark, I was like “Holy crap. This is the best soulsbourne game I’ve ever played.” The combat is super responsive and tight while the atmosphere is just drenched in unfound lore. I have high hopes for this game.
I'm so happy this game exists. And props to them for doing their own thing. Oh, and sharing my experience with the viewers, this game feels way better than what it looks like on the stream. At first I watched half an hour of gameplay of it and it looked very *Steelrising* to me. But then I went and played it, I realized I couldn't have been more wrong. This game is going to be great. Also, a PC game that runs this smooth in 2023? Impossible!! p.s. Watching Max's playthrough, my biggest regret is forgetting to put that vinyl in that record player. That "feel" song was awesome.
Did you happen to use the " show off clothes " emote in front of Antonia? I was wearing the black outfit also while doing it. Think it's a small Easter egg with extra dialogue.
This is basically my first 'soulslike' game and I'm actually loving it. It reminds me of the 16-bit era games when the games were unforgivingly hard and it took you like 10-20 tries just to beat a stage or boss. It took me almost two hours to beat that first boss though! But I still had fun just trying to beat him! I'm definitely getting this when it comes out, I'm actually more hyped for this than FF16 (and that demo was great too!)
@@mothwoman2004 Are you sure this is unreal engine game without all the performance issue that unreal engine games usually have I'm shocked how well Lies of P is running in a demo
@@JRX6KEN the trailers said unreal engine, UE is the most accessible and optimised engine available now, literally stays stable even on mobile phones. the fact that some studios still fuck it up shows how much of a cash grab their games are.
Every since the first trailer I've been in love with this game, and having played them demo I can happily say this has the potential to be one of the best soulslike games.
@@Padlock_SteveI agree, I think its very cool and its style not done before or very much since, but its not the best game ever made, probably not even the best Souls game. Still great regardless, we shouldnt compare it to other games as it might undermine them to just being like Bloodborne
I suck at this game but damn it’s fun and the whole concept of it being Pinocchio Bloodborne with the steampunk vibe of it all just really makes it that much cooler to play
@@Padlock_Steve if you like action games , the aesthetic or Lovecraftian horror it really is one of the best games ever. Idk why anyone would under mine BB kinda crazy to do so imo.
I, like max, played the FF16 demo and this back to back and holy shit playing the two best demos in years like that has filled my with huge hype for the next few months.
You are a gamer who understands and adapts to this Pinocchio Soul game better than any TH-camr I've seen. Other gamers don't know how to use the 'Perfect Guard', 'Fable Arts', and 'Ggroggy' systems, so they just complain that 'the game has a problem' because they keep dying while doing dodging. However, you played the game with a clear understanding of the direction this game is pursuing, and you recognize and praise the detail and high level of completion of this game more than anyone else. That's why you are the best game youtuber.
Yeah, I think it's that many other TH-camrs have huge egos or they're too impatient or too in doubt of a game being as good as an actual souls game. "It's an indie game so" type of thinking.
Alot of those people will scrutinize these indie soul-likes but will ignore poor design on fromsoft games, as great as they are, their are times where I think to myself "that boss was kind of badly designed".
I Finished the demo and then immediately preordered it lol. I went to TH-cam to see if I was crazy or if this game was actually looking to be as good as I felt it was- only to see most of the big streamers covering the game not bothering to take their time to actually READ through some of the commands, interactive items etc. Max was the only one so far I’ve seen that actually takes in the demo and digests it’s pros and cons. Can’t wait to come back in September to see his full playthrough on this!
I was so skeptical going into this, but I had so much fun with the game. It had some jank in some places and I felt a few attacks were not very well telegraphed or were very similar to other attacks which made them hard to counter properly. But overall it's a really solid and fun experience. Let's hope they manage to keep this energy throughout the rest of the game.
I feel like the game will have a story mechanic like Nier Automata + Bloodborn Insight, where if you choose the 'robot' options you will start to understand what the puppets are saying (where currently it's gibberish) and get to understand their point of view + different ending (and i am guessing harder/more encounters).
This demo was great. I hope people spread the word when this comes out. 10 min in and i was loving the demo. Only slight issue i had was rolling/dodging. Idk if its intentional to the combat and they want you to block more. But it coulr easibe fixed within the time it comes out
There's definitely an emphasis on (Perfect) guarding, especially with bigger weapons like the Greatsword of Fate, though there's definitely room for builds that rely on mobility with smaller and quicker weapons, but the trade-off there is usually not having some armor (since you need
first thing I said was, "they want you to block more b/c they wanna be different from Elden Ring where most boss fights came down to well timed dodges and counters"
i played the demo and man even just the bit i got to play told me it's going to be a good and solid game. and i really like how if you lose to a boss you don't have to run after your 'souls', they're dropped before the boss door giving you a chance to get them and then use them for whatever you need.
YES Max got to play the demo, glad he liked it so we get to possibly see him play this when the full game drops. It would be very cool to see the dev tackle other older fairytailes & fables and make it horror/action too, even if they aren't necessarily "Souls" like. Maybe something like Quasimodo, Hercules or Jack and the Beanstalk could work? I'd be down for it after seeing how well made this is! Hopefully this does numbers for them.
Bloodborne meets Sekiro. It's very, very good. Edit: If you use a charged attack with your arm on larger enemies as a killing blow, they blow into pieces. It's incredibly satisfying.
@@pc4mlc451fair enough, I'm glad it was a successful game for FromSoft, I liked the world to death but really didn't like the extremely heavy focus on deflects.
The fact that it's unabashedly a love letter to Bloodborne, Sekiro, and even to its source material Pinocchio, and yet decidedly feels like its own thing from just the demo, gives me high hopes for the full game.
Hearing the song play on the record especially when the soft saxophone hits as you walk about the empty hotel lobby is really something special Fingers crossed this game will be good 2:45:58
I was HOPING this game would be exactly this. It's always refreshing to have a game come out and deliver on what it was selling. I'm looking forward to the full release.
Cool thing with the mad donkey, the boss door doesn't lock and he's a human, so if you have problems with him you can lead him into other puppets and they'll start fighting
@@barcster2003 A combination of parrying and backstrikes is what I found to be effective. He's surprisingly easy to get behind for a good damage backstrike.
Whoa the fact you can break enemy weapons is a cool concept. Also, Alice In Wonderland soulslike? With all the weird and trippy stuff that could come with that? Don't threaten me with a good time! 🤭
Wow, this game actually looks really good, very bloodborne souls with the Sekiro arm. They got all the good things right! It looks like it was made by a South Korean Studio, so I can def see the inspiration.
This is what loads of skill, passion and budget will do. Just watching this is incredible, playing it must be something else. It's a Sous-like with it's own identity. This and FFXVI demo going ham, hope this helps make demos the norm again.
This looks great and well polished. Hope it doesn't get swept under the rug and just be ignored. Will be keeping an eye for Max's playthrough of this game.
I definitely didn't expect this game to turn out this good. Not only is it by far the best 3D "soulslike", but imo it even improves on some aspects and mechanics from Bloodborne/Souls and the way it handles your currency, sharpness/durabilty, upgrades etc. And on top of that it even performs well and at least the demo has a really good PC version with some good options.
1:07:23 Whoa max...Now that idea is great! It really is. After playing Alice madness returns back in the 360 days, Holy shit, i really would love to see that. It's already clear that her story can turned into a dark and gritty soulsborne like this. 😃😃
This is not BB2, but I think it has a TON of potential. I liked it quite a bit, and the dodge totally changes right at the end of the demo with the skill tree upgrade. It looks like the boss variation will be good as well, I'm pretty sure I saw a couple of non mechanized bosses in the newest gameplay footage from the studio. There is a LITTLE bit of Sekiro, a little bit of Bloodborne and a little bit of DS in the mechanics(imo). I'm excited to see the rest of it.
I was already gonna play this game, but maybe wait a while after its release. But you've convinced me that I may have to play this day one. Skill trees and upgrades in games are my absolute weakness and that P-Organ tree has my attention in a vice grip. I need to play this game!
@@barcster2003 I think the point of lieing is for his "ai" to gain sentience. Like what max said about a hidden insight system. The act of lieing is something that a human does. At the very least it's implied most puppets are programmed to never lie. So Pinocchio already breaks this rule.
really hope the level of substance and quality lasts the entire 30 something hours, because man, what killer potential also, really taken by surprise by this being a korean dev; i hope this sets a new bar for other KR devs to aim for
My intuition was different, thank God. I entered the room with the lore item, saw the big guy at the distance, and I immediately decided to go back and take the ladder to the roof. 😂 Because of this pathetic display of cowardice, I got the drop on the sneaky boi.
i just tried it on standard PS4 and its surprised me how well it runs compare to any actual Souls game. its so polished that i thought im playing the full game. and maybe its the demo, but the load time is not bad at all. can't wait for the full release
I didn't notice at all when I was playing, but watching this, I'm noticing an interesting thing about the Ergo dropped on death. When you die, it shows how much Ergo you dropped under your regular Ergo counter -- I saw that and thought it was a great feature. But what I missed is that the number goes down every time you get hit, and you have a few seconds to regain them by attacking. Watch the numbers around the 48 minute mark. Dying again takes a big chunk but doesn't take all of the dropped Ergo away.
Was already very excited for this game based on previous trailers and gameplay footage and now I’m through the roof with joy that it’s seemingly as good as I’d hoped. Fucking incredible. I need more.
What I really enjoy about the game so far is that the levels between bosses aren't extensivsly long so they don't overstay their welcome. That and the shortcuts that intertwine back to the beginning of a levels segment is just amazingly crafted, just like the actual fromsoft souls games. I hope the rest of the game stays consistent in that regard.
Found out on my demo play through, that the costumes are more than just fashion. The gesture you make that gets a response in front of Antoinette only works if you're wearing the boarding school outfit.
Finally I beat the 2nd Boss today and my favorite weapon combinations are 1. *GreatSword Of Fate Blade +1* *Puppet’s Saber Handle.* 2. *Puppets Saber Blade +1* *Wintry Rapier Handle* *ALSO MAX YOUR CHARACTER CAN PLAY THE PIANO IN THE CASTLE/SAFE PLACE AREA.* 👌🏽
When I saw the first trailer for this game, I was really intrigued. I have never played a souls style game before, but I gave the Demo a shot. I am enjoying this game but I am not good at the game lol. Took me a while just to kill the big guy in that first building. Im excited to play the rest of the demo and the full game when it comes out.
Also another thing i just notice when playing the game is if you have a quest items like the baby doll and check the fast travel place you can see the icon for the doll and were you need to give said iteam to the npc. I was just like holy cow that's makes finding the npc for said items easy
Apparently this game was made by Korean devs? Which is why it looks so good! They have such talent I wish they’d make more full games rather than gachas or MMOs. You see ads for like “the most beautiful game ever wtf???” Download now lol. Reminds me of all those trailers that PlayStation released of said games that will never come out. It’s cool to flex your graphics quality, but let us actually play those pretty games… Korean gaming might be the future if this game pops off though
Man I was hyped for this game since the very 1st time they ever revealed it. I knew it would turn out to be an amazing game. I've already played over 10 hours just of the demo, It's already my favorite game and it didn't even release yet. Atmosphere, characters, bosses, stage design, combat everything's just amazing I couldn't be happier... Completely erased my Bloodborne remake needs lol
Been playing the demo now, at the Watchman (last demo boss) and I can definitively say I'll be getting this as soon as I can, if not immediately on launch. Quick note, if your dodge feels slow, please do yourself a favor and actually put points into capacity. Additionally, even with that, carrying two weapons will almost always net you a slower dodge, that's really just the tradeoff for being able to swap weapons on the fly. I will say that it would be nice for it to be a bit faster (and further), even with the higher focus placed on parrying as the main high-advantage defensive maneuver, but I haven't had as hard of a time with it as it seems some other people have.
Played on ps4. Runs like butter! It's such a smooth gameplay experience. I got my ass handed to me a few times, but it forces you to learn patterns. I sucked at the perfect block at first, but I got it down after a few encounters. Perfect blocking is so much fun in this game! It really is essential to learn to perfect block.
The game is really good, I knew and was hoping it would be. I got to the first boss then quit. I had seen enough. I didnt want to ruin the experience. Cant wait to buy it and play it multiple times.
Dude, navigating the area after the train station, I kinda zoned out for a second and thought I was playing Bloodborne, the vibe of this game is very much "Central Yharnam"
I've seen Max happy to play good games, but it's been a while since I've seen him this happy to play something other than Final Fantasy or Resident Evil
Bruh YES omg yes IF this game pops off and does well enough I would ABSOLUTELY love a Alice in Wonderland inspired souls game. As someone who's a massive Alice in Wonderland fan we NEED to make this happen. How fucking sick would it be to fight the Jabberwocky as a full fledged souls game boss omg. Fingers crossed this game does well for Neowiz (the devs)
For anyone wondering why Ergo is used, I believe it's from Decartes "I think therefore I am" or "Cogito, ergo sum" in latin. Is P real because he can think? Where is the line drawn. Nice touch from the developers. Espeically when you also surmise "Cogito - to think" and the cogs in P's body.
Finally, i found someone whos sensible and bold enough to give credit where its due. I like souls games but so many are trying to act like fromsoft are the only ones that can make a good game, and anything slightly different is terrible. I enjoyed this more than most other fromsoft games.
@@pogoacct8611they nail everything thats good about the souls formula while also adding a few new interesting mechanics. Graphics are great and game is very optimized. Setting is fresh and interesting. Combat is like a mix of sekiro and bloodborne. It's the game i hoped from software would make, but they decided to sell out and make elden ring instead.
I hope Lies of P does great, but if you think the gameplay and art direction are even in the same league as the From Software titles, you're absolutely delusional. Putting out a good demo and offering the game in a subscription service seems to be enough to cloud people's judgment.
@arbernardo Well considering most of the gameplay systems in this are from fromsoft and they work just as well as they do, I think that means theyre in the same league. The art direction I believe fits well with the story theyre telling. The demo and it being on gamepass just means the devs are generous, doesnt make the game better. Take away those things and the game is still fantastic. Its not clouding my judgement
I just realized the puppet text is still shaped like the letters. I can roughly translate the text at 45:12 to be "Finally a guest is here. Kick this party into gear"
One thing i see no one mentioning is that the game runs at more than 60fps. Fromsoftware games are always locked at 60fps because of the engine. Im so excited for this game.
Max’s comment about the developers going all in on fairy tales and giving them a souls like twist if possible would be pretty cool. But first, fingers crossed this game does really well in order for that chance to even happen.
Red Riding Hood, Alice in Wonderland or Wizard of Oz Souls-likes would be sick.
@@ShadowPirateX damn all Three of those are actually really good ideas for soulsborne game
The sequel should involve additonal fairy tales, like pinocchio meets up with Red Riding or something
@@ShadowPirateX No because WoOZ would be amazing!
Cinderella souls like when
When that song "Feel" came on, chat just started crying emojied for 3 minutes straight. Finally the atmosphere caught up to Max and he even had a brief pause. That was a great experience.
Is there a reason why some streamers don't add chat reactions on youtube uploads? Is it because chat might have typed something that youtube wouldn't like?
Playing "Feel" was the point where Lies of P felt less like a FromSoft game and more like a Supergiant game for me.
A lot of Supergiant games is how they love adding miscellaneous art stuff in their games, their gameplay shines for sure, but they add moments that allow you to take breather usually through amazing artwork and music.
Timestamp?
@@dirtiestharry6551 honestly, why do you bother to even ask?
You see for yourself how the youtube comments are. Twitch is worse. Fcourse you can't really show that on youtube or it'll be instant demonetization
@@kidvex5741 2:45:00
I’ve never watched your channel before, but you’re maybe the 5th youtuber I’ve watched play this demo. You’re the only one to actually absorb the tutorial info, not just read it aloud and proceed to ignore it all. You’re the only one to actually put effort into learning the mechanics, and unsurprisingly you seemed to enjoy the game much more. I’m really looking forward to this game even more thanks to you.
Max got me to try this game. Now I've been playing it nonstop. It's so good. Patiently waiting to watch him play the whole thing. 😊
huh? There's tons of streamers who do that, Max is cool don't get me wrong but you're on the wrong site looking to fellate like that.
@seanothepop4638 people will get mad about anything. Wow.
02:44:52 It was this moment that really sold the game for me. It is such a small touch, but it really made me appreciate this is more than just another soulslike. I haven't been interested in playing other Soulslike, but there is something about Lies of P that makes me believe this game wants to be more than just another soulslike. So I hope the full game is just as high quality & exciting as the demo. Excited to play it soon!!
yeah
I remember this little system melting the hearts of many people
I'm looking forward to this game :)
I think the use of newspaper clips for lore and world building is a welcome departure from the Souls formula. There isn’t a need to be esoteric and vague just yet.
I don’t think he noticed that during his playthrough (did not see the whole vod) but when you listen to the whole song it does something to your character just like lying did. I just love such details!
@@Julian15031 its called feel and its making him feel 😭😭😭😭 someone kill me
I really liked this too - coincidentally I discovered he can play the piano in that room right next door when I was walking around enjoying the tunes
I really like the detail of Pinnochio constantly twitching when standing still. It's like his body is made of cogs that are constantly moving him from the inside making him feel like a puppet despite looking human.
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Its a bug
@@holip2200 is it tho if I like it?
@@natanvelazquez2270 It Is if i say so
@@holip2200 so you say it is?
Played & finished the demo myself. When the demo ended, my three exact words were, "I NEED MORE." I can't wait for September
When Max put on the feel record 2:44:48 and Max paused at the same time I felt like I did, this games atmosphere is immersive as heck. Wow this game really is gonna be something incredible.
The only reason why I buy this game, no kidding. This song make me feel men...
I really like how they made blade sharpening a core game play mechanic. It feels similar to a monster hunter sharpening trait but fully Pinocchiobornes original
Hope the make weapons last longer, felt they broke too easily.
@Rokva the problem is they Also decrease on block. They need to make the penalty for non perfect blocking a little less.
I like how creepy this game is. Here hoping for a full playthrough
@@barcster2003if they do that you'll almost never need to sharpen
@@Sperium3000 I think it needs to be a little less punishing.
I do like how if you lose to a boss your collection of essences will be at the boss's front door when you get back to them.
Love this. Also love that it depreciates with every death.
A quality of life addition I greatly appreciate. They knew that a lot of people would just run in, grab their stuff, and teleport back out.
(sees quality of life additions, mechanics, level design, and enemy design)
Me: man these devs get it
(the level up NPC is an absolute Waifu)
Me: these devs REALLY get it.
Like hollow knight
@@uptowndadeboi7925 no one care about that 2d game
I like the fact that the demo runs extremely well. The game is well optimized unlike some AAA tittles. Hope the rest of the game performs the same.
Running smoother than Elden Ring, but FromSoft were never great at the technical performance.
@@islandboy9381really? I never had a problem with performance
@@angelgomez7081 Not sure if you're kidding, FromSoft's games are infamous for being heavy for no discernible reason lol
@@Reydriel I never had I thought the games ran great
@@angelgomez7081they’re probably talking about pc ports. Those are not the greatest. Console versions are usually fine
It took me so long to realize that Venigni is supposed to be a homage to the actor Roberto Benigni who played Pinocchio in one of his movies. Really loving the little touches that the developers are sprinkling here and there with this.
Also, for who is wondering, -"gni" is supposed to be pronounced as "-ñi" with the "g" silent and the same sound on the "n" as for "piñata".
Weirdly, I think my favorite part about this demo is just how long it is and how much you can do for such a "small" piece of the game. Maybe I'm just used to short-and-sweet demos, but there were a couple points where I thought, "This is where it'll cut off to tease you, right?", only to be surprised that it just kept going. Such an enjoyable (and appropriately difficult) ride the whole way through; I can't wait for the full release!
there were 3 separate moments that felt like perfect demo cut off moments but it just kept going .... i love it
I heard people say it's longer than usual demos, so I expected first boss wouldn't be the end, but then after defeating 2nd boss and saving Gepetto, game still kept going. Good on ya devs
I kept thinking that it would be over on multiple occasions like that title drop,but it ended up being quite longer than what i expected from a demo
After finishing the demo, it took a while to realize the combat is actually more like Sekiro. Perfect guarding and landing attacks builds up a meter that will open up the enemy to be able to make "groggy" once its full which will leave them open for a fatal attack, and this applies seemingly to all enemies, bosses especially.
Also looking at the parade master fight, it looked like he was groggy but somehow him turning into his 2nd phase actually canceled it
The game rewards you for playing like Sekiro; parrying and forcing enemies to be groggy. You can dodge but it's not as rewarding. I'm glad that it's not going to be another dodge roll simulator.
I tried to play through sekiro but its combat really didn’t click with me at all while I connected with this game immediately. To me it feels like dark souls at its core but with the parrying of sekiro which feels really satisfying. I prefer it a lot more than souls parrying that’s for sure lol
@@SchifferThe2nd I agree. Dodging is safer as it gives you a pretty generous amount of i-frames, but deflecting/guarding at the right time rewards you with "posture" damage on the enemy, and there's a noticeable difference in how fast you can take down a boss/miniboss using each strategy. I think it's a pretty neat risk-reward system.
@@leinad2934
Though depend the wind up animations for the clock work dolls can fuck without h people to when you should dodge though with that upgrade tree from the chair stuffs going to be real fun customizing stuff.
Blocking attacks and taking chip damage works a lot like playing without Kuro's charm, where non-perfect deflections deal a brief amount of self-damage. Combat-wise, it's actually a bit closer to Sekiro than Bloodborne. That's not really a negative cause I love Sekiro. The only personal gripe I have is that bosses (like Elden Ring) have a lot of unnatural-looking delayed attacks, allthough I think Lies of P doesn't suffer from it as much since they're all robots, so it's less immersion-breaking, but it still an annoying trial-and-error curveball if used too frequently.
It’s hilarious how close Max’s commentary was to my own feelings. After about the 5 min mark, I was like “Holy crap. This is the best soulsbourne game I’ve ever played.” The combat is super responsive and tight while the atmosphere is just drenched in unfound lore. I have high hopes for this game.
I'm so happy this game exists. And props to them for doing their own thing.
Oh, and sharing my experience with the viewers, this game feels way better than what it looks like on the stream. At first I watched half an hour of gameplay of it and it looked very *Steelrising* to me. But then I went and played it, I realized I couldn't have been more wrong. This game is going to be great.
Also, a PC game that runs this smooth in 2023? Impossible!!
p.s. Watching Max's playthrough, my biggest regret is forgetting to put that vinyl in that record player. That "feel" song was awesome.
Did you happen to use the " show off clothes " emote in front of Antonia? I was wearing the black outfit also while doing it. Think it's a small Easter egg with extra dialogue.
Nvm I just got to where Max did it. Thought I was special there for a second lol.
This game without a doubt is gonna be amazing. Hearing that song play after that side quest is an experience that just stuns you.
And P turns a bit more human after doing so, it's such a cool detail. Shame Max missed that, he left the area before listening to the end
The worst part of this demo was that it wasn’t the full game. I loved it.
True brother but for a demo a pretty long one
@@roksitzenfrei thats literally why it's called a demo dummy
Put 12 hours into this because I wanted to try so many things
one more week
This is basically my first 'soulslike' game and I'm actually loving it. It reminds me of the 16-bit era games when the games were unforgivingly hard and it took you like 10-20 tries just to beat a stage or boss. It took me almost two hours to beat that first boss though! But I still had fun just trying to beat him! I'm definitely getting this when it comes out, I'm actually more hyped for this than FF16 (and that demo was great too!)
Lies of P The performance in this game on PC is incredible 120fps native 4k all the time it's a really fun challenging game to play
Pc specs?
the unreal engine coming in clutch for pc gamers
@@grgamer8470 AMD ryzen 9
32GB DDR4
RTX 3090 ROG Strix
@@mothwoman2004 Are you sure this is unreal engine game without all the performance issue that unreal engine games usually have I'm shocked how well Lies of P is running in a demo
@@JRX6KEN the trailers said unreal engine, UE is the most accessible and optimised engine available now, literally stays stable even on mobile phones. the fact that some studios still fuck it up shows how much of a cash grab their games are.
Every since the first trailer I've been in love with this game, and having played them demo I can happily say this has the potential to be one of the best soulslike games.
What's so good about it?
Yea the demo was fire
@@pogoacct8611 it going to the blood Bourne roots monsters plenty weapons and different ways to attack and react to environment and enemies love it.
@@HolloWolf35 isnt that every dark souls game ever thoughm ?
@@pogoacct8611 noo just a slight difference
Just started watching this guy last week and impressed by how genuine he is. Love the content and this game is absolutely a day 1 for me
Yep he speaks his f mind and doesnt hold back
I absolutely LOVED this game, even as someone who never got to play Bloodborne, and was really happy seeing Max enjoy it as well.
bloodborne is good but its not the greatest thing ever created like its hyped up to be tbh
@@Padlock_SteveI agree, I think its very cool and its style not done before or very much since, but its not the best game ever made, probably not even the best Souls game. Still great regardless, we shouldnt compare it to other games as it might undermine them to just being like Bloodborne
I suck at this game but damn it’s fun and the whole concept of it being Pinocchio Bloodborne with the steampunk vibe of it all just really makes it that much cooler to play
@@leoultimaupgraded9914 what do you think is the best Souls game ? for me it’s easily Bloodborne.
@@Padlock_Steve if you like action games , the aesthetic or Lovecraftian horror it really is one of the best games ever. Idk why anyone would under mine BB kinda crazy to do so imo.
One of the best demo releases. Definitely refined and hope it won't disappoint for the gameplay was awesome.
Even if there is bugs as long as they take care of them ill be a happy camper! The demo was amazing and can't wait
Was better than I thought it was going to be, I was honestly expecting a like 5-6/10 experience but the demo raised my expectations.
I, like max, played the FF16 demo and this back to back and holy shit playing the two best demos in years like that has filled my with huge hype for the next few months.
So many good games coming out. We've been lacking quality GAMEPLAY for a while, it's about damn time.
Can't Keep up, It's actually insane
Street fighter 6, Final Fantasy 16 and Lies of P demos all got me hooked immediately; and i dont have the money for a single one.
You are a gamer who understands and adapts to this Pinocchio Soul game better than any TH-camr I've seen.
Other gamers don't know how to use the 'Perfect Guard', 'Fable Arts', and 'Ggroggy' systems, so they just complain that 'the game has a problem' because they keep dying while doing dodging.
However, you played the game with a clear understanding of the direction this game is pursuing, and you recognize and praise the detail and high level of completion of this game more than anyone else.
That's why you are the best game youtuber.
Yeah, I think it's that many other TH-camrs have huge egos or they're too impatient or too in doubt of a game being as good as an actual souls game. "It's an indie game so" type of thinking.
YES 1000% U SAID IT
100% agree
Alot of those people will scrutinize these indie soul-likes but will ignore poor design on fromsoft games, as great as they are, their are times where I think to myself "that boss was kind of badly designed".
@@josef574Bed of Chaos and Ceaseless Discharge go brrrr
I Finished the demo and then immediately preordered it lol. I went to TH-cam to see if I was crazy or if this game was actually looking to be as good as I felt it was- only to see most of the big streamers covering the game not bothering to take their time to actually READ through some of the commands, interactive items etc. Max was the only one so far I’ve seen that actually takes in the demo and digests it’s pros and cons. Can’t wait to come back in September to see his full playthrough on this!
When are you people going to learn not to preorder
@@danceyrselfkleen Neowiz isnt EA or Ubisoft. Chill.
I was so skeptical going into this, but I had so much fun with the game. It had some jank in some places and I felt a few attacks were not very well telegraphed or were very similar to other attacks which made them hard to counter properly. But overall it's a really solid and fun experience. Let's hope they manage to keep this energy throughout the rest of the game.
I feel like the game will have a story mechanic like Nier Automata + Bloodborn Insight, where if you choose the 'robot' options you will start to understand what the puppets are saying (where currently it's gibberish) and get to understand their point of view + different ending (and i am guessing harder/more encounters).
Figuring out what the Parade Master and Scrapped Watchman are saying is really fascinating. I hope you're right.
It's not actually gibberish. It's just distorted English. If you squint and concentrate high enough, you can see what ðey're saying.
This demo was great. I hope people spread the word when this comes out. 10 min in and i was loving the demo. Only slight issue i had was rolling/dodging. Idk if its intentional to the combat and they want you to block more. But it coulr easibe fixed within the time it comes out
Yesnt, there's a dodge roll upgrade, akin to GOW dodging. They also want parries akin to Sekiro.
There's definitely an emphasis on (Perfect) guarding, especially with bigger weapons like the Greatsword of Fate, though there's definitely room for builds that rely on mobility with smaller and quicker weapons, but the trade-off there is usually not having some armor (since you need
first thing I said was, "they want you to block more b/c they wanna be different from Elden Ring where most boss fights came down to well timed dodges and counters"
At the end of the demo there is a upgrade screen for your abilities. You can upgrade your dodge move quite substantially.
@Hanz_Haze interesting. Ok sweet I'll have to remember that when the full game drops. Thnx
i played the demo and man even just the bit i got to play told me it's going to be a good and solid game. and i really like how if you lose to a boss you don't have to run after your 'souls', they're dropped before the boss door giving you a chance to get them and then use them for whatever you need.
YES Max got to play the demo, glad he liked it so we get to possibly see him play this when the full game drops. It would be very cool to see the dev tackle other older fairytailes & fables and make it horror/action too, even if they aren't necessarily "Souls" like. Maybe something like Quasimodo, Hercules or Jack and the Beanstalk could work? I'd be down for it after seeing how well made this is! Hopefully this does numbers for them.
Heracles isn't either a fairytale or a fable though, that's straight up mythology.
Boy, do I have some news for you!
Bloodborne meets Sekiro.
It's very, very good.
Edit: If you use a charged attack with your arm on larger enemies as a killing blow, they blow into pieces. It's incredibly satisfying.
Wait really
Fucking hate Sekiro, wish it would stop influencing other games
@@Thehunter905
Yes, really! I'm replaying it right now.. so good.
@MatthewCJoy
Oh? Hate Sekiro?
Aw well. It's not for everyone. I, for one, really enjoyed the deflect mechanic.
@@pc4mlc451fair enough, I'm glad it was a successful game for FromSoft, I liked the world to death but really didn't like the extremely heavy focus on deflects.
It unashamedly wears it's influence on its sleeve and given the prospects for a BB sequel, thats perfect.
The fact that it's unabashedly a love letter to Bloodborne, Sekiro, and even to its source material Pinocchio, and yet decidedly feels like its own thing from just the demo, gives me high hopes for the full game.
Hearing the song play on the record especially when the soft saxophone hits as you walk about the empty hotel lobby is really something special
Fingers crossed this game will be good
2:45:58
So many games I want this year, Lies of P, Spider-Man 2, MK1, FFXVI & Starfield
Can pass on starfield, itll be better in a year or 2 when the inevitable problems are fixed and mods are out.
How about Lords of the Fallen?
I was HOPING this game would be exactly this. It's always refreshing to have a game come out and deliver on what it was selling. I'm looking forward to the full release.
This game is alot more fun than bloodborne. 👿
Cool thing with the mad donkey, the boss door doesn't lock and he's a human, so if you have problems with him you can lead him into other puppets and they'll start fighting
Didn't know that. Although it's much better to just perfect block Mad Donkey.
@@barcster2003 A combination of parrying and backstrikes is what I found to be effective. He's surprisingly easy to get behind for a good damage backstrike.
I ended up putting 5 hours into this demo, I can’t wait for the full release. I’m super impressed by this so far.
2:45:14 "This game's gonna be something special, if the rest of the game is anything like this" Is how I think everyone felt during the demo
What the producer actually said: "The demo was a boring chapter, so I was worried."😏
This game has one thing that's bugging me for days after I tried the demo, the fact it's not out yet
Whoa the fact you can break enemy weapons is a cool concept.
Also, Alice In Wonderland soulslike? With all the weird and trippy stuff that could come with that? Don't threaten me with a good time! 🤭
Wow, this game actually looks really good, very bloodborne souls with the Sekiro arm. They got all the good things right!
It looks like it was made by a South Korean Studio, so I can def see the inspiration.
This demo was AMAZING.
This is what loads of skill, passion and budget will do. Just watching this is incredible, playing it must be something else.
It's a Sous-like with it's own identity. This and FFXVI demo going ham, hope this helps make demos the norm again.
This looks great and well polished. Hope it doesn't get swept under the rug and just be ignored. Will be keeping an eye for Max's playthrough of this game.
I definitely didn't expect this game to turn out this good. Not only is it by far the best 3D "soulslike", but imo it even improves on some aspects and mechanics from Bloodborne/Souls and the way it handles your currency, sharpness/durabilty, upgrades etc.
And on top of that it even performs well and at least the demo has a really good PC version with some good options.
I would love to hear that song performed live at the Game Awards, such a beautiful moment and lovely song.
the fact that you can be scorpion doing the "get over here!!" grappling hook is insanely cool.
1:07:23 Whoa max...Now that idea is great! It really is. After playing Alice madness returns back in the 360 days, Holy shit, i really would love to see that. It's already clear that her story can turned into a dark and gritty soulsborne like this. 😃😃
Wholesome to see Max enjoy a game this much
@2:45:00 that music's so gooooooooood....THE FEELS
This is not BB2, but I think it has a TON of potential. I liked it quite a bit, and the dodge totally changes right at the end of the demo with the skill tree upgrade. It looks like the boss variation will be good as well, I'm pretty sure I saw a couple of non mechanized bosses in the newest gameplay footage from the studio. There is a LITTLE bit of Sekiro, a little bit of Bloodborne and a little bit of DS in the mechanics(imo). I'm excited to see the rest of it.
I was already gonna play this game, but maybe wait a while after its release. But you've convinced me that I may have to play this day one. Skill trees and upgrades in games are my absolute weakness and that P-Organ tree has my attention in a vice grip. I need to play this game!
and people thought Pinocchioborne couldnt work, so glad Lies of P is looking this good
It works for sure. There's probably some bad consequences for lying because telling the truth Gave me nothing.
@@barcster2003
I think the point of lieing is for his "ai" to gain sentience. Like what max said about a hidden insight system. The act of lieing is something that a human does. At the very least it's implied most puppets are programmed to never lie. So Pinocchio already breaks this rule.
really hope the level of substance and quality lasts the entire 30 something hours, because man, what killer potential
also, really taken by surprise by this being a korean dev; i hope this sets a new bar for other KR devs to aim for
This demo is legitimately very good. Probably the best Soulsborne not made by FromSoft
1:36:19 most "thank you dark souls" moment 😂
Truly a quality souls-like
My intuition was different, thank God. I entered the room with the lore item, saw the big guy at the distance, and I immediately decided to go back and take the ladder to the roof. 😂
Because of this pathetic display of cowardice, I got the drop on the sneaky boi.
i just tried it on standard PS4 and its surprised me how well it runs compare to any actual Souls game. its so polished that i thought im playing the full game. and maybe its the demo, but the load time is not bad at all. can't wait for the full release
1:26:22 Yeah, some devs have been very generous with how much playtime they've given us in their demos lately. It's pretty cool of them to do that.
I didn't notice at all when I was playing, but watching this, I'm noticing an interesting thing about the Ergo dropped on death. When you die, it shows how much Ergo you dropped under your regular Ergo counter -- I saw that and thought it was a great feature. But what I missed is that the number goes down every time you get hit, and you have a few seconds to regain them by attacking. Watch the numbers around the 48 minute mark. Dying again takes a big chunk but doesn't take all of the dropped Ergo away.
Was already very excited for this game based on previous trailers and gameplay footage and now I’m through the roof with joy that it’s seemingly as good as I’d hoped. Fucking incredible. I need more.
What I really enjoy about the game so far is that the levels between bosses aren't extensivsly long so they don't overstay their welcome. That and the shortcuts that intertwine back to the beginning of a levels segment is just amazingly crafted, just like the actual fromsoft souls games. I hope the rest of the game stays consistent in that regard.
An Alice in Wonderland themed game like this would be wonderful I agree
Found out on my demo play through, that the costumes are more than just fashion. The gesture you make that gets a response in front of Antoinette only works if you're wearing the boarding school outfit.
Fyi and minor spoiler: there’s another moment of “your springs are reacting” if you listen to the record all the way through.
Extremely impressive. I am loving the depth I'm seeing here.
Finally I beat the 2nd Boss today and my favorite weapon combinations are
1. *GreatSword Of Fate Blade +1*
*Puppet’s Saber Handle.*
2. *Puppets Saber Blade +1*
*Wintry Rapier Handle*
*ALSO MAX YOUR CHARACTER CAN PLAY THE PIANO IN THE CASTLE/SAFE PLACE AREA.* 👌🏽
When I saw the first trailer for this game, I was really intrigued. I have never played a souls style game before, but I gave the Demo a shot. I am enjoying this game but I am not good at the game lol. Took me a while just to kill the big guy in that first building. Im excited to play the rest of the demo and the full game when it comes out.
Also another thing i just notice when playing the game is if you have a quest items like the baby doll and check the fast travel place you can see the icon for the doll and were you need to give said iteam to the npc. I was just like holy cow that's makes finding the npc for said items easy
Welp can't wait to see him play this whole game
Apparently this game was made by Korean devs? Which is why it looks so good! They have such talent I wish they’d make more full games rather than gachas or MMOs. You see ads for like “the most beautiful game ever wtf???” Download now lol. Reminds me of all those trailers that PlayStation released of said games that will never come out. It’s cool to flex your graphics quality, but let us actually play those pretty games… Korean gaming might be the future if this game pops off though
Typing this before i watch! I LOVED the demo and i hope max does too
Man I was hyped for this game since the very 1st time they ever revealed it. I knew it would turn out to be an amazing game. I've already played over 10 hours just of the demo, It's already my favorite game and it didn't even release yet. Atmosphere, characters, bosses, stage design, combat everything's just amazing I couldn't be happier... Completely erased my Bloodborne remake needs lol
My word, it's WoodBorne: Puppets Die Twice, with the production value cranked up the ass...
I mean, shut up and take my money, I need this!
I think I've fallen in love?? I've been looking for my way into the Soulsborne genre and this really genuinely looks like it's my way in.
Been playing the demo now, at the Watchman (last demo boss) and I can definitively say I'll be getting this as soon as I can, if not immediately on launch. Quick note, if your dodge feels slow, please do yourself a favor and actually put points into capacity. Additionally, even with that, carrying two weapons will almost always net you a slower dodge, that's really just the tradeoff for being able to swap weapons on the fly. I will say that it would be nice for it to be a bit faster (and further), even with the higher focus placed on parrying as the main high-advantage defensive maneuver, but I haven't had as hard of a time with it as it seems some other people have.
Yeah this seems like a fantastic entry to the genre. Death and soul retrieval is more forgiving which is nice
What are you waiting for? Play any of the fromsoft games
If the rest of the game is as good as the demo it’s a 10/10 for me
I can tell you’re not a True Gamer
@@danceyrselfkleenwho
Played on ps4. Runs like butter! It's such a smooth gameplay experience. I got my ass handed to me a few times, but it forces you to learn patterns. I sucked at the perfect block at first, but I got it down after a few encounters. Perfect blocking is so much fun in this game! It really is essential to learn to perfect block.
The game is really good, I knew and was hoping it would be. I got to the first boss then quit. I had seen enough. I didnt want to ruin the experience. Cant wait to buy it and play it multiple times.
Lies of P is the closest I’m getting to Bloodborne 2
The rumors say they are making a bloodborn 2
………..the rumors say
@@jasonsmith530😂😂
@@jasonsmith530for like 6+ years yea lol
@@jasonsmith530yeah that's what they've been saying
@@Shadowofawolf 3 years
It's like Bloodborne with Tim Burton's take on Pinocchio. Combat feels solid and the atmosphere and lore is fantastic
Dude, navigating the area after the train station, I kinda zoned out for a second and thought I was playing Bloodborne, the vibe of this game is very much "Central Yharnam"
I played this on Xbox Series S. It clearly runs at 30fps. Even on a video, this seems so better than what I experienced.
I've seen Max happy to play good games, but it's been a while since I've seen him this happy to play something other than Final Fantasy or Resident Evil
Ahh that song so good .. I play it before sleeping.. and imma go for a week for this good stuff
Bruh YES omg yes IF this game pops off and does well enough I would ABSOLUTELY love a Alice in Wonderland inspired souls game.
As someone who's a massive Alice in Wonderland fan we NEED to make this happen.
How fucking sick would it be to fight the Jabberwocky as a full fledged souls game boss omg.
Fingers crossed this game does well for Neowiz (the devs)
RE4, TOTK, SF6, D4, FFXVI, Lies of P, MK1, Starfield, Alan Wake 2, Spider-Man 2 and Gollem, what a great year for gaming!
If Gollem doesn’t get GOTY…my revolver is ready.
Bro tried to sneak gollem in there 😂😂
max someone has probably told you already but your springs react if you let the song finish i am hyped for this game
This is my first Souls Like and I've loved every minute of it. It's a heck of a learning curve for me but this game has been great!
One of my most anticipated games this year, right along side Starfield. I'm glad this is on Game pass
Exactly
Gamepass have 7 of the top 10 most wishlisted games on Steam as day one games. 😂
Lies of P, Armored Core 6, and MK1 for me. Kinda sad that MK1 and Lies are on the same date. Still gonna buy both.
For anyone wondering why Ergo is used, I believe it's from Decartes "I think therefore I am" or "Cogito, ergo sum" in latin. Is P real because he can think? Where is the line drawn. Nice touch from the developers. Espeically when you also surmise "Cogito - to think" and the cogs in P's body.
Finally, i found someone whos sensible and bold enough to give credit where its due. I like souls games but so many are trying to act like fromsoft are the only ones that can make a good game, and anything slightly different is terrible. I enjoyed this more than most other fromsoft games.
What's so good about it?
If the quality from the demo is consistent i would say its on par with ds1/bloodborne/sekiro
@@pogoacct8611they nail everything thats good about the souls formula while also adding a few new interesting mechanics. Graphics are great and game is very optimized. Setting is fresh and interesting. Combat is like a mix of sekiro and bloodborne. It's the game i hoped from software would make, but they decided to sell out and make elden ring instead.
I hope Lies of P does great, but if you think the gameplay and art direction are even in the same league as the From Software titles, you're absolutely delusional. Putting out a good demo and offering the game in a subscription service seems to be enough to cloud people's judgment.
@arbernardo Well considering most of the gameplay systems in this are from fromsoft and they work just as well as they do, I think that means theyre in the same league. The art direction I believe fits well with the story theyre telling. The demo and it being on gamepass just means the devs are generous, doesnt make the game better. Take away those things and the game is still fantastic. Its not clouding my judgement
I am way into these huge demos lately. Reminds me of getting demo CDs in my PC Gamer mag. I hope this trend continues.
I need more of this game. I am excited.
Great game. "Feel" was such a lovely song that added to the atmosphere
I just realized the puppet text is still shaped like the letters. I can roughly translate the text at 45:12 to be "Finally a guest is here. Kick this party into gear"
Oh shit! you are 100% Right, didn't catch that before
One thing i see no one mentioning is that the game runs at more than 60fps. Fromsoftware games are always locked at 60fps because of the engine. Im so excited for this game.
2:56:44 Is that a unique death animation because he died from electricity? That is awesome.
This is a fascinating twist on Pinocchio and the Soulsborne franchise. Definitely buying day one.