We RUINED our BOAT | Sailing Florence Refit Ep.174

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  • @tonym3339
    @tonym3339 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Great to see you both working toward your long term goals. A bit of advice (probably unwanted) it has been well researched and found that working 7 days a week will decrease your productivity not to mention possibly cause friction between you. Please take a day off each week, go out somewhere nice, enjoy each other's company and start the next day refreshed. Take this old timers advice and also enjoy the journey 😊.

  • @grantpedder7719
    @grantpedder7719 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    *_A TIP FOR YOU GUYS._* I have found that if seald with a sealant like Sicaflex urethane, a hot air gun softens the sealant and the toe rail or through hull fitting comes loose without force or damage. Works well on glassfibre and not much heat required either.

    • @stephenburnage7687
      @stephenburnage7687 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I have done the same.

    • @ferry6497
      @ferry6497 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You’re right: all are thermoplastic compounds and glues and will let go between 80_100 degrees C.

    • @KeithCarmichaelInFL
      @KeithCarmichaelInFL 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I am betting they wish you had said this earlier! LOL. It is a solid tip though!

    • @chrisryan4452
      @chrisryan4452 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Just be a bit careful not to scorch exposed gel coat. Otherwise it works a treat.

    • @alimitchell5346
      @alimitchell5346 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      And using a cheese wire helps on thin slices....heat it first.

  • @nawyecannae53
    @nawyecannae53 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    This was one of your best episodes. I know you didn’t have much choice but your resilience to get through this period is admirable. Everybody wants to be on the water, nobody wants to grinding and sanding. You really stuck to it. 👍

    • @Anton-tf9iw
      @Anton-tf9iw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Didn't have much choice? This Western male urge to have every inch in semi new condition is not universal, because it is overkill.

    • @rolfpiotrowski4325
      @rolfpiotrowski4325 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Anton-tf9iw
      Stimmt! Man kann auch mit Notlösungen leben!
      Aber was ist das Resultat? Ein unzuverlässiges Bastelschiff,
      das dann im Ernstfall lebensgefährlich ist!
      Nicht umsonst sind MADE IN ENGLAND oder MADE IN GERMANY Qualitätsprädikate! 🤷‍♀

  • @dakardad1
    @dakardad1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    Thanks for NOT doing the work on 150 episodes. Just the important bits.

    • @elizabethmiddleton5613
      @elizabethmiddleton5613 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Amen to this

    • @RocksOff72
      @RocksOff72 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But, but the AlgOriThM!

    • @martinbeaumont1135
      @martinbeaumont1135 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would have happy with half a dozen or so episodes😅

  • @corujariousa
    @corujariousa 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    For all the holes up deck, consider using drilling a slightly larger hole, filling them with thickened epoxy and then drilling the correct size hole into the epoxy. This way, even in case you have water intrusion, the core will not get affected (epoxy works as barrier). For the deck grip, I believe you can make your own with a type of thick paint (not sure about the name of the product). You'd have to cut out templates so the aesthetic will good and paint on their inside. In the end, you'll have rough surfaces in the design pattern you want. Good luck with the renovation!

    • @awuma
      @awuma 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes, standard practice for any holes involving cored deck or topsides. Good idea also for solid fibreglass to prevent wicking. Also, for old holes not properly sealed, all wet core should be removed, hollow volume dried, and filled with epoxy, perhaps with chopped fibres and/or microballoons, and then re-drilling as for holes above.

    • @tomcraddock244
      @tomcraddock244 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Drilling then epoxy is great advice aka sailing RAN

  • @ScottS360
    @ScottS360 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I know it took a TON of hard work, but Florence is looking great! I'm surprised that you didn't buy or borrow an oscillating multi-tool for use when removing the toe rail and the deck grip. I can't think of anyone I know who works on their own boat who doesn't own one! You can buy flexible scraper blades and sealant removal blades that are the equivalent of the hand tools you're using. I know you're trying to do the refit on a budget, but some judicious tool purchases can make the different between finishing a job and giving up, or between (almost?) enjoying it and being miserable. Best of luck!

  • @hughburton4175
    @hughburton4175 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Three mates and I own a yacht and together we have excellent hand skills. When we work on the yacht we calculate how long we think the job will take and then multiply it by six! By the way, your editing skills are excellent. To think you have all this maintenance to do and you still produce such excellent videos is impressive.

  • @robertnixon3816
    @robertnixon3816 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Some of the extra work involved is a testament to how well Florence was built in the first place! She's a stout yacht that has taken you far and provided safety for you. Returning the love and caring is a good thing! She has lots and lots of miles to go! Carry on!

  • @humanafterall2076
    @humanafterall2076 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Stainless steel wire like a guitar string makes a brilliant little cutter for adhesive in the place of the toe rails

    • @maynardsammons1538
      @maynardsammons1538 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've also heard that braided fishing line can also cut through adhesive without damaging gelcoat, although I haven't tried it.

    • @jaakkokorhonen
      @jaakkokorhonen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And if that doesn't work directly, use a hot air blower.
      Most of the time trying out different ways of working, clocking how long the options take, and sleeping on it before doing the actual work, helps find the more efficient way.

  • @kindsailing
    @kindsailing 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    You will be much happier with the new toe rail and it will be so much better for the boat to really repair the entire boat surface under the toe rail. Scraping off the treadmaster was also probably as fast as trying to grind it off all told. Both of these jobs are huge, but you made the right decision to do them. Great episode! Namaste.🙏

  • @timothydunn5889
    @timothydunn5889 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "The perfect job for today as it's not temparature dependent". As always with Amy, the glass is half full. Soldier on.❤

  • @baldwinleatherworks
    @baldwinleatherworks 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I love watching the rebuilding of Florence. I found this video very educational and entertaining! Great job you two. I’m so glad we live in a time as we do, for you to were able to document this journey. When you get old and grey like me, you’ll look back, so cherish these times .
    I now, just an armchair sailor after 6 back surgeries. I spent my youth sailing the Northern Atlantic Coastal . with my family and a big Labrador retriever, who is terrified of the water, on a Balboa 8.2 meter sloop that was not an appropriate boat for cold Atlantic blue water cruising. Yes, the four of us and a big dog on that small narrow sailboat. Yes it was nut when I think back, but I wouldn’t trade those memories and experience for anything in this world. Can’t wait to watch your progress. Take care of each other and enjoy your journey ❤❤❤❤

  • @chrisjones9089
    @chrisjones9089 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    When you are finished Florence will be a much better boat. Dont despair you will get there!
    HYC was my base for many years. Had my boat painted and refurbished by Richard in that shed a few years ago when the roof leaked! My boat is a catamaran called Cloud9.
    I used to have some treadmaster on my boat but replaced it with Kiwigrip which is a paint system that is a bit like a thick yoghurt....you use a special roller that raises the surface to be as grippy as you want. Brilliant stuff....sticks like #### to a blanket! I managed to get some on polished stainless steel and it simply won't come off! It fills minor holes well and the rollers just wash out with water. It's expensive at 70 quid a can but it's the best deck coating I have ever used....Richard can probably get you a good deal!

  • @thedogman14
    @thedogman14 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One hell of a job. Well done. Remember the old adage. "If you think it's going to take 1 day - triple it!"

  • @TomMcGlinn-ci1ev
    @TomMcGlinn-ci1ev 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You guys are great! Thanks for letting us see your voyages!
    On a safety note - please set up a scaffold for working on the hard. Time and money but it’s worth it.

  • @rogerbayzand4455
    @rogerbayzand4455 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have laid quite a few square metres of Treadmaster using their two pack epoxy adhesive but never really thought about the poor blighters that might have to remove it one day! It really is an excellent product that has really stood the test of time on Florence. Congratulations on doing an excellent job removing it, if you are thinking of paint and want a truly hard wearing non slip surface then gelcoat sprinkled with ceramic blasting grit is excellent. I have used this on the decks of commercial vessels that have a lot of foot traffic and it outlasted any other treatment. For a yacht I would use a fine grade of grit, first roll on the waxed gelcoat, evenly sprinkle on the grit then roll over it again to imbed the particles.

  • @grahamatsea3575
    @grahamatsea3575 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You're doing a great job 👏. You are so lucky in having managed to find an indoor shed that allows owners to work.

  • @stephenburnage7687
    @stephenburnage7687 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My boat buddy (an ex shipright) has the theory that all boats have to be rebuilt every seven years. Obviously, some parts last longer and some less, but that his view of the average. My experience, with my own boat, is that is about right. Sounds like you are confirming that too.

    • @dmitripogosian5084
      @dmitripogosian5084 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you talking about ocean-going boats ? Coastal cruisers don't need a major rebuild that often, in my experience. Perhaps depends on location as well.

    • @stephenburnage7687
      @stephenburnage7687 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @dmitripogosian5084 The UV and the temperatures apply, whether you are at anchor or sailing but I would suggest that the 7 year figure is the extrene end of the range, for boats in the tropics or maybe Florida. Boats in Alaska seem to deteriorate much slower.

    • @kimberlyonseastar
      @kimberlyonseastar 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dmitripogosian5084 no coastal cruising going on with Florence!

  • @pnwcruiser
    @pnwcruiser 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm refitting a similar vintage sailboat (1979 S2 11.0 A) and oh boy can I relate. Thanks for sharing your effort and the challenges you find. Nice work!

  • @Sailing.Poor.Richard
    @Sailing.Poor.Richard 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To add to the helpful comments, I found a 'Sonic Crafter' or equivalent oscillating tool with a sharp scraper blade on it is brilliant to deal with SikaFlex or (in the US) 3M 4200 or 5200. I often have to replace the bow bumpers on the FJ and 420 racing dinghies, that has made that job easy instead of such a pain I would avoid it at all cost! The battery operated ones are nice for remote work. Sorry to be late with this helpful tip...

  • @MrBertHeylen
    @MrBertHeylen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So nice that you guys want to bring this aging boat back to perfect condition with so much love. I am a fan! I don't know if there is still that option, but I would scrape away the gelcoat on the deck and then build it back up with epoxy. Stronger, longer life, and most importantly, better against water seepage. To remove I used a good tool. It si on mu YT video's.

    • @awuma
      @awuma 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Perhaps careful sandblasting? Of course, Matt and Amy can't do that in that shed...

  • @brad4908
    @brad4908 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funny to read all these comments from regular people, living regular lives, advising people with a proven extraordinary appetite and capacity how to pace their lives. I say follow your own spirits - you’re doing amazing things that most people don’t even imagine! Finish with no fuel left in the tank ❤

  • @user-ns9hk9nm7y
    @user-ns9hk9nm7y 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am not sure if you have found a nonskid deck replacement yet. I did a project on my boat last spring, I used a product called "Raptor Deck". It's a Seattle Washington USA company, an excellent product, wonderful people to work with, they really support DYI people!

  • @cestusfr
    @cestusfr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i cannot wait for the 9 meter toe rail bending session!

  • @rickpyne
    @rickpyne 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Guys,
    you have definitely taken on some of the hardest jobs. I have had to do the same on a 32ft M&W sloop, taking off the Toerails. I have used a few methods that might help seal new rails securely,
    1/ I taped off all holes with masking tape to stop leakage then filled every hole with the use of a syringe filled with thickened epoxy. Then drill undersized new holes that will fit new toerail position exactly, then these holes will be tapped with thread to fit new holes , countersunk and filled with Butyl to ensure no leaks.
    2/ S/S bolts will require plastic caps to help prevent corrosion on new toerail , add that to cost of new bolts becomes expensive. I bought Aluminium bolts, nuts and washers with Allen key heads from China that will help stop corrosion.
    3/ Deck Non Slip. You now know how hard it is to remove. All non-skid wears and gets damaged needing to be repaired at some stage. As I am on a Very tight budget on my total refit and Products such as Kiwigrip etc are very expensive, I decided to use a completely natural product-Raw sugar crystals to create a non skid effect. Rolled on thick layer of topcoat to non-skid areas, broadcast with sugar crystals before paint sets, when set recoat with topcoat. This makes the surface required. Once dried and hardened a light sand just to cut the tops off the raised surface wash with water and scrubbing brush to remove sugar. This leaves small craters that act like a small suction cup when walked on. Easily sanded for repair and lost cost, be prepared to be flyblown until you get rid of all the sugar.
    I would like to hear your comments on these approaches and hope that they may help. Keep you vids coming Guys Good luck

  • @Bruin4Life
    @Bruin4Life 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow, all of your hard work and hours of effort are starting to show thru. I know that Florence will be like a new boat when you have finished your retrofit.

  • @alexmacleod6732
    @alexmacleod6732 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Been watching you from port Hardy British Columbia. I'm a mechanic who wants to try sailing one day. I started watching, Uma, gbu, parlay and Florence. I find the boat building/refitting very interesting to watch. It's as interesting if not more interesting than the sailing. My wife and I spent a year rebuilding a 1979 searay power boat....bought it for 12000, when we were done the total bill was 95000. Boat work seems to take 3x longer than you estimate and 3x more expensive. But well worth it when you do the work yourself. Good luck.

  • @cutaway7405
    @cutaway7405 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sorry you have expanding jobs! You are both young, strong, and up for the labour as you know the prize is sailing to Beautiful places!! Your videos are Great! You have a good handle on making videos and we've enjoyed all of them!😊

  • @morecowbell20
    @morecowbell20 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know I need a nap now, after watching that mammoth amount of work! On another note, as a Canadian I find 2 degrees Celsius a pretty good temperature to do manual labour. Great video you two! Thanks

  • @mattkellerchannel2265
    @mattkellerchannel2265 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You Guys are relentless. Nothing but admiration and if I had some extra money I would send it your way but we barely get by anymore. Your Videos make my Day.
    Matthew Keller

  • @soleromac21
    @soleromac21 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who needs a gym? Looks like you’re getting quite a workout before your next adventure! Wish you, Amie, Matt and Florence well! Positive you all will be in top form for your next outing!

  • @cloreenbrown100
    @cloreenbrown100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Back in the 90s we did a 8 year circumnavigation in our Duncanson 35, along the way we also had corrosion in the toe rails, also had a timber laid deck which I relaid.. not at the same time. My comment is that we got right away from the alloy toerails and fitted a timber section, lasted well and no leaks or corrosion. Really admire you two not only for your whole approach to cruising and what you have acheaved sofar. Best regards from Australia, Phil and Cloreen Brown yacht Manukai 2

  • @richardclegg8027
    @richardclegg8027 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Actually feel very sad for little Florence seeing her cooped up like this. We've watched maybe 80 hours of Florence bobbing about in blue oceans. Hopefully in real time the worst is over. (I think it looks hopeful when I read patreon updates).

  • @janblackie2637
    @janblackie2637 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kudos to you two. Around the world without a big fuss like some other channels. You also work on the boat in calm collected way. You're not out to make the max number of episodes with no substance... Real sailors. Keep it up!

  • @SailingSquib
    @SailingSquib 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Welcome to the world of boat refitters!

  • @ChrisHudsonVlogs
    @ChrisHudsonVlogs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not sure if you noticed, when you pulled off that first toe rail the deck / top layer of gel coat lifted / moved. Maybe something to look at, or maybe not. Could be the start of some de lamination where water has got in? Probably fine just something I spotted. Great video though, I really enjoy these refit videos

  • @davidnichols147
    @davidnichols147 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What an exceptionally brilliant work blog, so nice to see Florence inside after 6,000NM of sailing, she deserve some tender love and care. Speaking of which, 7 days a week will certainly get you tired and when you get tired, mistakes are made. Consider spending some quality time with friends and family, relaxing with a good book, or attending your local theater on a date night. You both deserve a much needed break after recording, editing which is always perfect, and just the "hum drum" of physical labor. Florence looked quite different after the non-skid was removed, much wider somehow?

  • @jhunternissen0
    @jhunternissen0 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I salute your persistence and incredible patience to refit Florence! Both of your are an inspiration for all deep-water sailors. Two beautiful and dedicated people. Enjoy the upcoming journey! Cheers from sunny Chiang Mai.

  • @chadd9637
    @chadd9637 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    MULTI TOOL is your friend. I have removed a decent amount of PVA foam and it is the only way to go. Then I usually soak what is left with adhesive remover and scrape that off with a putty knife. It's not fun work and I didn't envy you.

  • @ingriddoorn1201
    @ingriddoorn1201 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mammoth job but you are doing a fantastic job! And think of the reward at the end: she will not only look absolutely amazing, she will also be safe to sail around the artic!

  • @wcads623
    @wcads623 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Should have warmed the deckgrip with a heat gun prior to removal or use a multi tool with a blade.

  • @AHmad-pm4pb
    @AHmad-pm4pb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Patience Amy & Matt. You can do it. Its better to reseal again. You will have a peace of mind the next time you are crossing the vast ocean. 👍👍👍

  • @murphyrp01
    @murphyrp01 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Another great video guys. I do wish you had some kind of fall protection when you are working on deck. It looks like a slip or trip and off the side you go. Take care

  • @micheldawes1
    @micheldawes1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @16:25; Ironically, here in Sydney, the weather is also appalling too! We’ve already had 50mm (Two inches!) of rain overnight and now it’s getting heavier this morning! (And this is our “Summer”)
    Fortunately the temperature is still around 19 degrees Celsius! 👍😁

  • @user-gt2ud2gw9e
    @user-gt2ud2gw9e 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When Florence was built, you weren't to know about replacement tow-rails, etc. but with hindsight, the boat builders could have advised you to produce spare parts for the future which you could have kept at your parents house.
    And that list would have included things like a copy tow-rail with exactly the same measurements.

  • @cianclarke
    @cianclarke 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As somebody with a 1985 boat of similar construction, also having to replace toe rail right now, it was a real struggle. I presume the Italian company you mentioned is Osculati, which unfortunately didn't fit my boat. Gioti are also offering to do a limited production run for those in need of new rail.

  • @paulmorley9910
    @paulmorley9910 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great to see you both restoring her with so much care! You're both good people, so many others would choose to sell on their issues to unsuspecting others nowadays. Your reward will be peace of mind when she's looking fantastic and you know all the work has been carried out to such a high standard!
    I think you might even be glad you sorted that toe rail eventually too 😊
    Great video!

  • @mathewdavis-adventuresandd6643
    @mathewdavis-adventuresandd6643 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I believe I'll think twice before I complain about pulled the hardware off the top deck of my little Catalina 22 for refitting, lol. A ton of work and you two are doing good. Just recognize when you need to step away for a day and spend time with each other. Those major refit projects can strain a relationship.

  • @bencompton799
    @bencompton799 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your resilience and determination make you both a force to be reckoned with. Amy, you are such a trooper! My father always told me that if a job is worth doing, it's worth doing right, and you both exemplify that credo. I'm so proud of you both and find you utterly inspirational. Well done.

  • @seniorsdesflots
    @seniorsdesflots 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bravo, you had no others good solutions to get a boat without leak, and a safety deck. Now you know the time you need to get the good result. Next time, you think a time like this time, and you X 3. That’s simple. 😅😅😅😅 I had worked in my yard when I was younger, to do exactly that job. I was the boss and worked like you, too. I X 2 the time to reach the good result. You are right to change the aluminium rail, that’s the secure and simple way. We watch all your videos from 5 years and love them very much. Continue…. You are good sailors. Patrick and Sylvie, SV Croix du Sud . ❤

  • @sisselnilsen4699
    @sisselnilsen4699 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish Ihad met my own greatgrandfather, a sailing sea captain who died in Thames near London 1903..buried where Pocahontas sleep, I have read. His cargo was ICE

  • @WernerHolzmann
    @WernerHolzmann 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keep faith! Once you have completed this ‘somewhat extensive’ refit you will savour the joy of a new toe rail and will quickly forget the gruelling work you have put in.
    PS: Next to all the free advice you are getting, here’s my contribution… Get yourself some really good tools plus excellent dust extraction and …working pants with knee protection. Once those knees start hurting, it’s too late and they will be grateful by the time you start your next 50.000 miles journey…

  • @mikemartin6790
    @mikemartin6790 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know your skilled sailors, there is a whole world of power tools that you can use that would help to reduce the time and effort taken, yes skill is required to use them but is easily learnt. Multitools, hacking knife, impact drivers and impact wrenches would smash these problems. I work in construction and I’ve also maintained/refitted boats.

  • @TomTremayne
    @TomTremayne 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think what Amy said at the end of this video was maybe just a bit of post-project blues, fatigue & a result of the sheer physical pain of chipping off substrates, sanding them back, cleaning, sanding again & still not seeing it look perfect. I used to restore cars & sometimes the long way round is the best, & indeed, the only way. An industrial sander would have made a real mess of the gelcoat, would have damaged fittings, they're also heavy, dangerous, noisy, expensive to hire & it may not have even saved any time. You did OK guys, more than OK in fact! (A heat gun played on the toe-rail may have softened-up the Sikaflex & maybe the bonding on the deck-grip too........heat melts glue)

  • @DAVIDMILLER-nc9vo
    @DAVIDMILLER-nc9vo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's so very pleasant to hear such detail in proper grammar! I look forward. to every episode and view some of them more than once. Thanks for your excellent videos! It would be interesting to know what the cost is of pulling the boat up, un-masting it, moving it around, etc. Boat yards are not cheap.

  • @andrewmoylan6295
    @andrewmoylan6295 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great videos, sailing Florence crew. Get down and dirty and to the point , She'll be seaworthy in no time with your great teamwork and persistence . Great work.

  • @stevelambert7496
    @stevelambert7496 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know you guys don't like to do boat maintenance videos but I enjoyed seeing what it takes to keep florence going. Thanks for sharing

  • @UAPJedi
    @UAPJedi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great work by both of you, not only do you have to contend with this work but you have to produce these amazing videos. People just don't realise how long it takes to make a video, when I was doing some for the business I worked in it was taking about an hour of editing for every minute of video that didn't include the work required to make the video.
    Great work.

  • @roberthutchinson4473
    @roberthutchinson4473 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are doing great work, keep at it.
    Suggestion, I am not a sailor but followed Free Range Sailing during the refit of Marool, butal mastic was used for sealing decks etc, easy no mess. Bolt holes were over drilled, epoxied and metal inserts installed, these had the new bolts inside and no full penetrations needed.
    Pascal and ? have moved to Free Range Homestead, so contact them for the facts.
    Repairs always take more than you expected. Don’t give up.
    Rob H.

  • @gatecrasher1970
    @gatecrasher1970 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    my boat got lot less problems apart from the starter motor i had to repair myself and now checking alternoator while painting the interior as am still in mooring at fareham

  • @streaky689
    @streaky689 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my god you guys are amazing! I would have purchased a new boat, my brother recently sold his 45' Beneteau after completeing his circumnavigation with his wife and part of it with my son. Keep on with the good work! Love your stuff!

  • @stuartbrown5783
    @stuartbrown5783 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    your resilience and organisation is remarkable. It'll be greatwhen it's done. Keep going! 🙂

  • @AhmedYoussef-kd9nc
    @AhmedYoussef-kd9nc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great teamwork. Happy that its sailing related and you guys are dressed.....for the weather

  • @user-yq8mm5pl1n
    @user-yq8mm5pl1n 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think you could get the existing toe rail made for you. I had one part made for my Sunseeker and i think if most of the parts are in standard sections that are the same it may be possible to have the part copied onto CAD and then manufactured.

  • @nooneanybodyknows7912
    @nooneanybodyknows7912 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The woulda, shoulda, coulda's, of life. Hindsight is always 20-20. Thank you for not boring us with every detail and focusing on the important ones. Keep the faith. In time, you will be back to enjoying Florence and the freedom of open ocean sailing. 💨⛵️

    • @stephenburnage7687
      @stephenburnage7687 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are a bit disappointed today but I guarantee you, they would have found similar, if not more serious, issues with almost any other boat.

  • @sailingoptions
    @sailingoptions 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent message in your filming and editing - be positive and learn from experience. Effort, dedication and determination win a better future. ONWARD . . . with HOPE, expectation and BELIEF.
    BTW I wish I still had your energy!

  • @AndyUK-Corrival
    @AndyUK-Corrival 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That’s hard graft but, depending what you replace the Treadmaster with, will transform the look of Florence. I must admit I would probably have gone with a solution like Mads did on Sail Life. He removed his toerail for the same reasons, leaks and corrosion, and replaced it with stainless upstands that then have a hardwood bulwark. Granted you lose the holes which are very handy for attaching snatch blocks. But it certainly wouldn’t have been as expensive. Anyway, in real-time you will much further on and hopefully on the home stretch. Andy UK

  • @micheldawes1
    @micheldawes1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey guys, long time subscriber (And admirer!) A quick tip - a reciprocating saw will get in between the toe rail and the deck and with a metal saw blade (i.e. small toothed blade) this will make very short work of the Sika, or whatever adhesive/sealant was between… Hope this is timely advice and hope it helps. If you’re unwilling to buy a new ‘Recipro’ you may find a commercial hire business that is more financially viable…
    👍👍🤞😁

  • @Wauquiez48Pilot
    @Wauquiez48Pilot 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful work, hard work, congratulations for an amazing result. I know it must have been soul destroying but now you get to put her back together, the rewards will be fab! …..and your dear old friend will look amazing 10/10 hooray👏👏👏👏💪👌❤️🎉

  • @sd3693
    @sd3693 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My heart sank watching this video. The aft sections of our toe rail are badly corroded, and we have massive water ingress in a number of spots, so we have that whole job to do as well, and you've just confirmed that the job is going to be as nasty and time-consuming as I had feared. Good luck for a prompt and reliable solution!

  • @davek4442
    @davek4442 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video and I know what your going through. I helped my dad replace a Keel on a mahogany cabin cruiser that was heavy damaged. I was about 12 years old and I remember I didn’t have much of summer that year. We had to do the work outside and summer was the only option where we live on the Great Lakes. I enjoyed your segments and wish you the best, just keep the spirits up as you get through it. Cheers Dave

  • @MichaelrennieG
    @MichaelrennieG 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think lifting the rail was a good Idea, learning about your boat is worth more than the work sometimes.. Time never works in projects, specially something you have never done, I am really impressed how much you have done so far..

  • @PA28pilot
    @PA28pilot 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    we have been thinking about replacing the toe rail on our 1989 Moody 425...i knew it would be a biggie...but didn't know how hard it would be to source! thanks for the vid and keep your chins up!

  • @mattw785
    @mattw785 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You two are THOROUGH. Good work!

  • @chrisnegele6875
    @chrisnegele6875 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just wow have followed you two from probably your 10th video and this project has me feeling your pain. I know you two will get through it but sending positive vibes your way.

  • @Chris-zo5ze
    @Chris-zo5ze 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The proper tool for the job helps... They sell scraper blades you can attach to a Sawzall, and it would have blazed through that deck grip. Bummer y'all aren't closer to real time so the community could offer suggestions.

  • @richardgough3450
    @richardgough3450 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mads on sail-life had a similar issue with a toerail. Came up with a stainless brackets and laminated, epoxied ply solution IIRC.

  • @robertfullarton3020
    @robertfullarton3020 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know it's very hard work but your dedication to finishing the job is commendable. Your efforts will be rewarded in your future travels.

  • @DeanColegate
    @DeanColegate 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really interesting episode 🙂 Working in cold temperatures like that is pretty grim so hats off to you both. Sorry to hear the toe rail saga cause sleepless nights 😟. Thanks for the 'lessons learned' section at the end as that can really help others (maybe me!).

  • @billb2176
    @billb2176 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All power to you guys, you are a great team and inspiring to watch.

  • @timevans8223
    @timevans8223 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been there, done that! We went through the same thought process. Can we save the old one. We ended up putting a new one on from SL yachting. I am guessing you had to chase Steve. I spent my career as a project manager. Ordered my roerail well ahead of time so the delay wasn't critical. Did you have new holes positioned in between existing? Epoxy fill the old holes. We used Geocell Works to bed everything. Cheaper than sikaflex. Way better product. All our deck gear is fitted with it. No leaks. It's an MPS.

  • @peterbryan3295
    @peterbryan3295 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keep positive guys as hard as may seem at times, maybe take half a day off once a week to recharge...the boat is going to look brand new when your finished and all the hard work will be worth it..and you two will look like bodybuilders with muscles everywhere.lol..cant wait for next week to see the progress..😊🙏💚🇦🇺👍⚓⛵

  • @davidcahill3104
    @davidcahill3104 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would have used fibreglass square tubing for the toe rail. Advantages are glassed to the deck covers all the holes and the only bolts necessary would be for fittings, disadvantages you lose the flexibility of easily attaching fittings. Welcome to boat restoration

  • @thatflightsimguy
    @thatflightsimguy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the price you pay for all those beautiful sunrises. Keep going guys! It won't be long and you'll be steaming north watching those beautiful sunrises/ sunsets once more! I can't wait ❤

  • @curmudgeon573
    @curmudgeon573 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think you two are amazing. There is absolutely no way a short cut would give you the same result as all of your hard work.

  • @jonnorousseau3096
    @jonnorousseau3096 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you think you've got a big job, I've got a steel Stadt 34' with some rusted areas that required attention, predominantly anchor locker and deck below the old stanchion bases, now welded into the integral toerails but I've had to strip out the entire interior, foam insulation and so on to be able to weld in new plates, I've been on the hard for the last six months working with one African helper through the South African summer in up to 34° temperatures after having to sand off all the fairing compound on the side decks first.
    Never again!!! Which is why I'm determined to do it properly now so I never have to go through this ordeal again

  • @georgemorris9971
    @georgemorris9971 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The good newsis that you haven't found anything that you couldn't do and you have made lots of progress and taking three times as long as you thought it would is, I would have thought, about par for the course. The three other restoration projects I am following are years behind schedule! And nothing important seems to be broken. As for the cold shed - it'll be a lot colder in th arctic!.

  • @audunwea2364
    @audunwea2364 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I usually multiply boatwork by three, and most times ends up doubling it. And I partly do this for a living.......
    I think you are doing a very good job, and I also think it wise to remove the toerail completely. That way you will be able to chamfer (or bevel) all the screw holes, wich is absolutely nescessary to make deck fittings water tight.
    And from years working sitting on my knees in boats and houses, I,m in que for my second knee-operation on both knees. So PLEASE get yourself some decent knee pads!!!

  • @justsomeguy6474
    @justsomeguy6474 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A monumental task it is. You'll feel a great sense of accomplishment when you're done. One day at a time and you got this!!!

  • @dbgothard7503
    @dbgothard7503 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hindsight, as we know, is always 20/20. Kudos for moving on - you'll get it eventually... :) You've probably decided on your replacement anti-skid but, if not, you might give some thought to Kiwi grip. I did Manali's decks a few years ago and the product looked good and worked well / Be well, D.

  • @ollieitservices115
    @ollieitservices115 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Feel for you guys with that toe rail project, A few years ago I was involved with blue water racing and we had constant issues with leaks from the toe rail and found the same sort of issues you show here. eventually we decided to do something a bit unusual that so many people said would not work but it was the best thing that could have been done. We removed the rail completely and fibreglassed over the edge to join the deck to the sides and finished the joint to replace the toe rail. yep thats right no toe rail at all. we had to mount some horseshoe fittings for attaching bumpers or blocks etc and the stanchions/pushpit/pulpit were reattached and we did add a small 3/4 mtr long piece of the toe rail at the rear of the cockpit simply as we often moved the blocks etc and needed multiple securing points. The result, no more leaks even after many thousands of miles in races offshore including a rough sydney to hobart race, and actually found it far more comfortable to work with when at sea. there are still the rails to protect people on deck, the jack stays dont change, but as the fore deck hand i often kicked my toes while working with the spinnaker or changing headsails in heavy weather and afterwards never had a sore toe again!

    • @larkangel6593
      @larkangel6593 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sam holmes ran a 4" baseboard along the entire length of the lifelines maybe 6" above deck?

  • @1sheinz
    @1sheinz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would ditch the toe rail altogether and install a fiberglass composite angle glassed to the deck. No metal too corrode and more importantly NO HOLES. Your pulling the non slip and it would take so little more to sand off the gel coat where the toe rail is and glass in the composite angle. You really don't use 98% of the holes in the toe rail for lines and blocks so just glass in support for blocks just where you need them and fill those holes permanently. Of course your likely done by now S O ?!?! CHEERS AND safe travels Steve h.

  • @claywebb8199
    @claywebb8199 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely crazy. You should have done away with the toerail altogether and glassed over the joint. No more problems down the track with leaks either.

  • @ybra
    @ybra 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You guys should definitely be wearing a harness when working on the deck. That is quite the drop onto a concrete floor if you fall.

  • @jamesandrew62
    @jamesandrew62 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got some 3.5mm aluminium half sections from a metal supplier in reading, on 2.4m lengths, you need a pillar drill to position new holes.maybe to toe rail has a curve in it

  • @QWTrucker
    @QWTrucker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The English accent cracks me up y’all use words we don’t use in the USA it’s great seeing all the boat work getting done she looking like a great boat

  • @sailingmarilynkaye
    @sailingmarilynkaye 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You guys are doing an awesome job, keep up the great work.

  • @jameskelly5973
    @jameskelly5973 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dissimilar metals at sea cause corrosion through electrolysis. SEAsia is renowned for being a high corrosion area due to various issues but one of the strongest is the temp of the water.

  • @bindatek8801
    @bindatek8801 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great job!! Those toe rails always were going to scrapped, glad you decided to get rid of them. The Grip track matting was a terrible job but good for you sticking it out to the end, and a clean deck. Bon Courage!! John

  • @kevinbond3858
    @kevinbond3858 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It will be worth the effort in the end. An oscillating tool would be your friend in taking off the deck grip.