My 4-cup Brikka Problem (Part 2) - "No Crema Problem" SOLVED!!
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- ....continued from my previous video titled "My 4-cup Brikka Prolem (Part 1) - Never Creates "Crema"", all the bean and settings remain unchange.
My 4-cup Brikka problem (no "crema", different mouth feel, color and taste from 2-cup Brikka) is solved with the changed of funnel to 6-cup Moka Express funnel! At the end of this video, I compared the 2 coffees. Left hand side was the "no crema" coffee, which was using 4-cup Brikka funnel.
Change of funnel saved my 4-cup Brikka. But, I still don't understand why my funnel can cause no crema. Now I enjoy my 4-cup Brikka coffee every day. For those who having the same problem as mine, hope this video helps.
Less heat! You want a nice slow steady flow of coffee, not a explosion. The best result we got from our brikka is freshly ground beans. Finer than pre-ground but courser than espresso . Soft tamp. Lowish heat. When it starts to pour get ready with a tea towel just before the end of extraction press down on the weight to stop the flow this helps eliminate the sour over extraction.
I have better results by just pouring it as soon as it shows crema.
This is a v1 Brikka, so it will always "explode". The v2 Brikka has a different valve design, which results in a smoother flow.
Should i use Fine grind coffe or medium grind coffe? I don’t have any coffe grinder so i’m hoping someone could give a little insight in here.
Hi. I think I read about this. On some funells there were little holes on the side to bottom "corner" due to manudacturer fault. Try to check it out.
I tried several combinations on my Brikka. Noo always work but my best is: exactly water level no pass the mark on the pot, prewarm the water until it start to boil and put it into the Brika and then close the brikka inmediatly, use ground as courser as expresso and tamped it very light almost without pressure, use ver very fresh beans (more Co2 is the key and fresh beans are full of it), and stop the proccess exactly at almost the end of extraction an pour it on the cup inmediatly. Almost ever works fine.
I did not try the new Brikka yet, they changed the pressure valve and i am sure it improve the process in order to get crema easier.
Macché io ho provato nuova bricca induzione . Purtroppo niente crema. Mi può consigliare una marca di caffè. Grazie
The problem most likely is a defective funnel on your 4-cup Brikka as shown by using a different funnel from another Bialetti model.
Всё очень просто! В новых Brikka на 4 чашки трубка на воронке имеет маленький диаметр. Да и клапан похуже, так как сделан не в Италии. Если хотите чтобы работала старая воронка, то нужно срезать старую трубку, увеличить диаметр отверстия приблизительно на 4мм и приварить новую трубку такой же длины, но внутренним диаметром на 4мм больше! Ещё больше увеличить пену поможет груз на 10-15гр. который положите на клапан сверху. Таким образом вы увеличите давление выброса. Мне это помогло. Работает лучше чем Brikka на 2 чашки. Всем любви, добра и удачи!
Everything is very simple! In the new Brikka 4-cup tube on the funnel has a small diameter. And the valve is worse, because it is not made in Italy. If you want an old funnel to work, then you need to cut off the old tube, increase the hole diameter by about 4 mm and weld a new tube of the same length, but 4 mm more internal diameter! More increase the foam will help the load by 10-15gr. which put on the valve on top. This will increase the discharge pressure. It helped me. It works better than Brikka on 2 cups. All the love, good and good luck!
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Instructions state brew and discard first 3 coffees before you use.
I used very old coffee pre ground. I got a brikka crema everytime. Then used fresh ground beans , not to fine ground . Crema everytime, I cant see how you cant get a crema, its self working.
This might sound stupid, but I always make sure the valve on top is loose, by shaking it a few times, plus I use hot water, comes out great.
David Reddy so hot water over cold on the initial fill?
@@joelbrannigan3037 It's meant to improve the flavour, as the grounds aren't dry heated so much whilst the water comes up to steam.....
VERY first important thing : always freshly grind coffee, which means just BEFORE making any kind of coffee, filter, espresso, bialetti
I think because of deeper coffee chamber it creates more pressure and you are getting crema like expresso machine
That is my conclusion I may be wrong
sounds good
Make sense
If I'm correct you extracting more coffee with the same amount of water (6 cup instead of 4). So you have more dense coffee and stronger crema. Your 4 cup weak(er) crema falls apart (basically instantly) when you pour it out in your cup.
They are also using cold water....that's kinda a no no. They should fill the bottom with boiling water this will help the coffee not heat up pre-infusion and keep in the CO2 that creates the crema. That brew is also way too slow for crema. They should check out James Hoffmann's stuff. Their previous funnel would work fine if they changed their method of brewing.
I think your coffee ground is too coarse. hence when pressure is building up, when it should be pushing through the ground, it's making a hole in the coarse ground and straight out. if the ground is fine, the steam should filter through, thereby extracting much better and it's that slow steam pressure that creates the crema. I'm no expert, just my thoughts.
Totally! I'm a Brikka user, and coffee ground the exact size is really important. Too thin and you get muddy coffee, too coarse and you get just coffee and no cream.
I use Café Bustelo Espresso Dark Roast coffee stored at room temperature, and compact just a tiny little bit. In addition the 4 teaspoons of sugar whipped with 1 teaspoon of brew. Works for me. Trial and error.
Wow, you really love coffee
You are not saying a shit and It's super duper nice
jajajajajaja casi quedo pegada en el techo cuando salio el cafe, se ve demasiado delicioso mmm... rico!!!!
2:07 heartattack
Thanks for videos!! I have a similar problem. My 2-cup brikka is working good. I'm really happy with it and my 4-cup Brikka actually creates enough "crema", but the taste is really bad (using the same coffee). I've done a lot of coffe's hopping that the taste will get better..but if it continues like this, i'll give up soon!
what is the solution
@@raid1734 You have to notice that the coffee grounds extract the flavours this way: First acid (stringent) flavours, then extract sweet flavours and finally bitter flavours. In a 9 Bar Expresso coffee machine the balanced flavours you get between 24-26 seconds of extraction, if you overpass this time you will get bitter falvours or even burned ones but alos if you underxtract the coffiee beans (less than 24 seconds) you will only get acid coffee. In Brikka Bialletti machine the process is different, it dows not reach 9 bar pressure, at least 2 bar but the process in some way is similar so you have to be alert on the time the beans are cooked, remember that the coffe is cooking no only when you see it puring out from fannel, but they are cooking before but stopped by the pressure valve.
Use coarser grind to reduce bitterness taste, also shorten the brew time by using hot water and on smaller flame, move the pot away when you see crema is coming. Pour the coffee out immediately. Hope that helps.
It’s all in the grind. Can’t be too fine, can’t be too coarse.
*obviously*
From black hawk down
Where you get the tip?
How do you get that crema from a moka pot, they truly can make espresso idc what anyone says thats amazing!
Running a 2 cup model what would you recomend changing the funnel to since i'm looking to do the same thing as yourself
Buen café pero si somos en casa cuatro, hay que ponerla cuatro veces?
Yhe water level should be below safety valve, may be if water higher than water level, the pot cannot build pressure to generate cream.
That's how bialetti brikka works. It does have a different method of dosing the water compare to other mokapot. I have that 4 cups brikka, do the same routine like he does, and the result is great. The foam (not an actual crema) always comes alot like what he get with 6 cup express funnel.
Yudho Ramadhan right
Roasting beans takes place at 370-540 degrees. You can’t burn your coffee with water, the beans were in twice as much heat when they were roasted.
I like your video but do you think that for person 4 tz is not to big? I'm thinking.
Holy.....how many coffee equipments you have. I don't have shit.
What is that cylindrical thing on top ? Which compresses the liquid?
It's a weight that needs to come up when the pressure is sufficient. That creates the crema/foam
@@Cenot4ph what's it's name
It's part of the pot.
Looks amazing!!
I left this video playing in the background full volume JESUS, i was like WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT SOUND?!?!?!
Just by watching this video, I think the rubber seal isn’t sealing. It takes ages to come and then when it does it explodes. Check your seal.
For a Bialetti Brikka that's completely normal
That’s what it’s supposed to do.
Ronald DeCos sorry, my mistake.
I have a 4 cups at home and makes a wonderful coffee since longtime.
At work I bought a Mokka Timer and a 2 cup Brikka, switched the upper parts (the screw of heads is the same).
The 2 cups Brikka really struggled to give me a creamy coffee like at home.
Than I read your post and gave a try to tighten more the head on the base, so joints are more squished and sealed.
It worked!
Tnx for tip (from a 10 years ++ Brikka user)
what number do you select in the coffee bean grinder for the brikka?
Use low sparkling water it works.
Clean and organize much?
È una caffettiera con spiccata personalità ! La cremina la fa solo quando ne ha voglia!
I always put boiling water into the base much quicker
If you do that it's less acidic but also less crema.
sorry...but bolling water just burns the oils of the coffee and doesn't allow the slow release the flavors such as 91 or 92 deg.F
I was typing my response when the moka pot creamed all over the screen. Surprised the hell outta me
Nice crema. Which model of moka are you using?
4 cups old model
If you want to have crema , you must have arabica+ rabusta. If you not have rabusta not will crema!
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What is that little cap that you have on top of your mocha pot?
Thanks for sharing.
Nice.. but I think I have the older version like one of the two pots you have.. will it still do the job!!??
@Jinn Shien Phang
What kind of coffee blend dou you use in this video? What is the grind level? And how many grams do you use for the 2 cup Brikka? I'm a newbie whit Brikka and am still doing the research... Thanks in advance! :)
Galin Dimitrov in general you want to use Grind #4 for moka pot but maybe a tad finer for Brikka. Also a medium roast is better. (I don’t own a Brikka it’s just what I read doing my research). I’m looking into purchasing one myself once they are back in stock :) Hope it helps.
Loved mine the first 6 times I used it then started having all kinds of problems. Took it apart, cleaned everything, replaced gasket, replaced filter, worked once since. I ordered a 6 cup Bialetti Moka Express funnel (by mistake) BUT it won't fit my 4 cup Brikka so not sure how yours did. (?) Bialetti website is no help. About to throw the whole thing in the trash.
Lori Cox Lori did you sort your problem
Pat Reynolds no I did not, went with a Nespresso machine 😀
Walter Jager. No black bottom
What is the make & model of your grinder? I am looking for a new grinder and I really like the design of your machine.
Also, is this grinder 110 volt, or 220 volt?
Clay Pratt My grinder brand: Yami, Model: YM-686. Not sure is Taiwan or China made. 230 Volt.
For your info, this type of grinder has many brands, motor (different power), blade (China, Italy, Japan) and even bearing (China or Germany). All looks the same, but different specs. If good specs, it really a good grinder.
Thank you. I actually did finally find the Yami brand, and some others. I find that most are 220v and a few are 110v. Beyond that the info is very limited. I think I will end up ordering one soon anyway. I really like the idea of dropping the beans in and grinding fresh every time. Right now I grind a weeks worth at a time in a nice burr mill.
2:06 obs 😅
Can we drink this much strong cofee directly? OMG....this decoction can't serve directly. Moka port is good to brue a perfect cofee.
It's impossible to replicate what happens in an Espresso machine, with a modified stove-top moka pot. They are completely different processes.
Before the espresso machine were invented there was this moka pots, of course the machine improves the results but the process is the same.
really? check '9 barista'
@@Into_space191 Moka pots were invented in the 30s. Espresso was invented in 1901
@@car-a-car Yes, OK. 😊
Flair can.
Я испугался в конце, такой завораживающий процесс был и ...
Hola a dónde se puede conseguir. Ese tipo de cafetera que tienes ?
válvula de controle de pressão que fica no bico de saída do café ,será que vende separada da cafeteira eu pedi a minha.
Looks like your crema valve is dirty. Try to disassembly.clean and assembly the crema valve back.
looks like my stomach after heavy dinner...
Ma come fa una caffetteria a essere così lucida dentro!
Ciao paesan!
Già...vallo a spiegare ai numerosi stranieri che non hanno mai usato una moka ma riempiono il web di commenti tipo" è sporca..." "lavala meglio, avrà la valvola otturata" anche quando la moka è lustra come uno specchio...
What is the attachment on the top of the flow spout?
how long the crema lasts for by using this coffee maker? I'm interested in Bialetti, but not sure which one to buy!
Not as long as real espresso. Sometimes less than 1 minute. It depends on coffee used
Wow looks amazing
Where is everyone buying that Brikka Moka Pot with the Valve. Amazon is kinda sketchy with reviews. Thanks
I ordered three times before I finally received the right item. There was a different seller that was a little less expensive but kept sending me just a traditional moka pot. Finally I ordered this one and it was the right product: Bialetti Brikka Aluminium stovetop Coffee Maker (2 Cup) smile.amazon.com/dp/B07F3SMMYD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_SJCC3JS2TGWF0P2DDC8D?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
@@carlascardino2032 much appreciated the link. Have an awesome day
what's the manufacturer of the grinder? nice!
Yami YM-689
Hi! I have a 2 cup brikka, I see that a little leak during brewing is normal, right? Unfortunately I don't have as much and thick cream as you, but next time I try in glass cup. Do you keep gas on low medium or high?
Hi! You mean little leak (transparent mild colour coffee) coming out before final bust? That is normal. But if air leak between bottom chamber and upper part is abnormal.
Thick cream depends on coffee freshness or percentage of robusta mix in the coffee (more robusta, more crema). I keep gas high but within the moka base size.
@@pjshien thank a lot I will try same as you
Так в чем проблема?у меня на брике тоже нет пены.
¡Esto sí es café!
Hello, is the 4-cup funnel size and shape is same as the 6-cup Brikka?
鹏 黄 Yes. It is. But just a bit shorter on 6 cups funnel (about 3mm).
how about the taste after you change with the 6-cup funnel?
黄鹏 It tastes as good as my 2 cups Brikka. Much better than my previous 6 cups Brikka funnel. I just found, my origianl 6 cups Brikka funnel has leakage. That's why it never create crema and the coffe takes long time to brew and burnt.
Jinn Shien Phang I suppose you mean that the original 4 cup brikka funnel had a leakage? As far as I know there is no 6 cup brikka, just moka
Yes, Brikka models have only 2 cup and 4 cup funnel. There isn't 6 cup funnel.
Water should be pre-boiled before putting into the moka. Other wise the ground coffee will get too much heated.
Yes, for Moka, I always pre-heat the water. But not for Brikka.
Roasting beans takes place at 370-540 degrees. Boiling water is not going to make your coffee beans get too hot. It can’t happen unless your using oil instead of water.
@@RedThunder0000 Read James Hoffman's book or follow his channel......Its not just about coffee taste issue.Infact, It also help to extend the rubber seal lifetime.
And for your information...
The beans roasting process at high temperature starts with non-roasted beans.
I have Brikka? but crema out so fast may be 1 minute/ Why? Crema must be strong and permanent. What to do?
that‘s not a really espresso crema. it needs more pressure for long living crema.
So out of a six cup funnel you get one cup of espresso.
Why is it so long to brew to boiling point
What a stupid question!
Because water is cold .... that's why & second it needs to build up pressure until starts to brew!
it's physics thing, the more pressure work on the liquid then the longer time you need to make it boil
Should be using front SMALL burner so flame under not around and up side.
Do I always need to fill coffee powder to the brim ?
No, I usually do 3/4 and it's fine. A tad less intensive which I like.
It depends on how strong you want the coffee to be. I would just advice not to overfill and not to compress the coffee! Have a nice brew
How many Moka pots do you need?
How did you solve the problem? I bought mine yesterday and no crema at all 😕
U bring your funnel and torch light, go dark room, light into funnel check and see is your funnel leak at join or corner. Mine leak at the side corner. If leak, just change to new funnel.
My country cannot get Brikka 4 cups funnel, so I replaced with 6 cups moka funnel. It work perfectly. But heard some said 6 cup moka funnel cannot fit properly with their 4 cups Brikka size. Maybe different batch different specs.
您好，請問您的四人份Brikka裝粉的粉槽有橡膠墊圈嗎？ 我的兩人份brikka有墊圈但四人份的沒有，不知是遺失還是本來就沒有？ 感謝您
您好。 有橡膠圈是舊款的。現在新款的沒了。我的2人份和4人份的都沒有橡膠圈
@@pjshien 終於一解心中疑惑，非常感謝您的回覆！
I tried every thing but can’t get my espresso to get crema 😔
Looks like you have too much heat.
So i just bought a 4 cup. Are you saying i should buy a 6 cup funnel and use it on my 4 cup pot?
If your pot has no problem, you do not need to change to 6 cups Moka Express funnel. My 4 cups Brikka (newly bought) could not create sufficient pressure to pop up in normal timing, it took 8 to 10 minutes to pop up (very unusual) and my coffee always over cook. I could not find original 4 cups Brikka funnel in my country, even from neighbour countries not selling it. I have 6 cups Moka Express, I found the size is exactly same, so I switched my "4 cups Brikka funnel" with "6 cups Moka Express funnel", and it works perfectly!
Finally I found out the culprit was my Brikka funnel has a crack line between the top and the bottom pipe. Until now I still cannot get original 4 cups Brikka funnel in my country, so I am still using 6 cups Moka Express funnel in my 4 cups Brikka. And I am happy with it.
from the video you can see that there are several models, I'm buying my first one, which would you advise? Brikka or Moka express? I also saw that there are two models of Brikkas, the new one with an integrated valve and the older one shown in your video? which of the two makes a creamier coffee?
Buy the latest model. It builds up more pressure and produces more crema.
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It's more 6 cups not 4 cup! 4 cup basket gets 18 to 20gr medium roast at its best.
I'm leaning to do
how many coffee equipment you have bro? I couldn't count :D
The whole kitchen full with coffee equipment, but the coffee looks horrible...
enough money spent on those to buy a good quality espresso machine
kemal kemal
Too much time on his hands
@@WeisswurstFX it's too good
You should to try it
My advice✌
@@hansouth2355 you spend a bunch of money on a espresso machine, all you can make is espresso.
How boring.
Still don't get it? How did you solve it?
Yes. Solved. I used a torch ligh, went into a dark room, light into the funnel, found there is a crack from the side of the funnel. Changed a new funnel solved the problem.
7:05 the glass cup looks like suffering from erectile dysfunction
what grinder did you use?
YAMI YM-689
Stir fried bitter burnt coffee
How did you fix it
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fuck me, I got so pissed off with mine I through it in the garbage. I could not get crema for the life of me, hell 3/4s of the time I'd not get the coffee in to the upper chamber.
That’s too much to go through for a cup of coffee
Amen to that
Its not cup of coffee 🙄 its espresso 🥱🙄
@@323playstation hot water ground coffee = cup of coffee! I make Moka pot coffee/espresso often but not all that rigamorole ! Might as well do a Japanese tea ceremony LOL
That' foam, not crema.
You know crema is CO2 foam/microbubbles that are also exists on water, right? It's the same with espresso, which also comes it.
@@rgbers thats completely wrong. Crema is oils extracted from coffee under pressure. You can get it with espresso machine, not moka pot. It's impossible for moka pot because the pressure is too low. The device on top of the spout of this moka pot foams the coffee, thats all there is to it...
What is this model ? That little valve cap in the funnel , Where Is this cap come from ?
so the 6 cup filter is also okay?
Mine ok. But I heard from some user feedback, not all batches has same built. So recommend you change to original 4 cups Brikka funnel.
@@pjshien bitte i have 4 Cups to
@@pjshien
can I have the exact dimensions of the filter?
@@stefanocentrone4305 my 6 cup's moka filter inner dimension is 61.4mm and the top outer ring dimension is 65.7mm. Which is currently using in my 4 cup's Brikka
I want one😭😭😭😭😭
What is in the middle part inside of the moka pot that says patented?
It's to create certain pressure before coffee coming out.
@@pjshien where can I buy one?
@@jacr6521 You can buy online. Search for 'Bialetti Brikka'. Not 'Moka'.
@@pjshien thank you !!!!
@@jacr6521 You are welcome. Hope you can get it and like it. Worth to invest, it last forever.
How you made the cream or foam
it is the Brikka model.
Ma è orzo?
Pseudo crema.
Moca pot waooo hmmm cofeee
Compra uma kamira
It works like an alarm so you don't have to attend it
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well that was terrifying
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At first, I thought it was a fart...