Americans are getting bigger and bigger every year. I drive a Buick Verano which is the size of a Cruze. Every time I go to Europe on vacation and come back my Verano feels like a large sedan.
@@PianoBlackTrimRep. lol well I personally like compact or midsize automobiles my self not really into full size cars and bigger my compact Kia Sportage is just perfect size for me😁
@@PianoBlackTrimRep. Americans are fat, yes, but they're also in this weird arms race to drive the biggest goddamn vehicle on the road. If I had a dime for every tryhard douche I see driving a Sierra 2500HD or F-250 Super Duty who NEVER tows or hauls anything, I'd be a rich man.
ive noticed that with all cars. a new compact truck is as big as a 99 3/4 ton truck. honda civics are as big a full size cars a decade ago. i dont understand.
No race to a Civic type R non-reveal first-to-the-web report?!!! Thanks for actually displaying maturity and original thought regarding your content. This is a sensible vehicle and a sensible review. Porridge. Keep up the great work!
Yeah, none of the rollout reviews are really adding anything to Honda's PR video. No sense reviewing a car you can't drive to actually experience. Oatmeal with some cinnamon.
You guys had way more fun driving this thing on a track than any other car you've reviewed. I'm now taking out a 96 month loan on a kia sportage, the dealer says its only a $12,000 markup I think I got a good deal. I'm bringing it to the nerdturdring next week, gonna set a new PBR.
Even though I'm not a car guy, even I know that taking a Sportage to a race track is just heresy. Could always test how many Yuri's and Jacob's could fit in the back with the backseats folded down.
Great hybrids. It's a pity the dealers are killing it with "negotiable" markups. 8k 10k markups out here in LA. I see a 5% interest rate and a markup..fuk that noise. I can pay for the gas with a ICE car for 3 years instead.
Great car, but good luck getting one. I was told more than 10 months wait for a factory order about 2 months ago. Ended up getting a Tucson instead under 2 months.
Remember this is a mid-range EX affordable hybrid so the audio is not premium. Definitely a value. First-rate photography, looks like it was graded in post!
Test drove an EX Hybrid yesterday. Loved it. But the Kia dealership added a $5000 "adjusted market value" to it. 15% mark up. Went from $34k to $43k out the door.
If you really want to get anything these days, you have to increase your search range to find a good deal and talk straight about OTD price with your own one in mind...
When I test drove one of these I noticed a very smooth/luxurious ride, some body roll but plenty of grip at the same time. This vehicle feels quicker 0 to 60 than it is on paper but it does seem to run out of steam over 80 mph. For $32,500 and up to 40 mpg combined I highly recommend this vehicle. The front headroom is not great but it just makes the cut for me. I could not really notice a difference with the drive modes.
why can't there be a middle ground and not just sloppy like a boat protecting your cat litter or hard like a BMW? Why wouldn't any lincoln be a better middle ground than this? i think I will wait a while before purchasing anything these days. prices are horrible. changes are coming too quickly and next year should bring a ton of newer vehicles with better middle ground and the same if not better mileage. oh, and a recent study came out with Korean buyers being very upset with the aging of these cars in a 6 to 10year ownership. the quality really falls off and becomes obviously cheaply made lower quality. the bling ages quickly. this has always been the plan of these cars and MFRS.
Simlar to my 17 Hyundai Sonata hybrid. Good tech (at the time) and comfortable ride. Same problem (only major one) with the kick down which I think is dangerous. Try to merge on hwy and the car refuse to kick down for couple seconds and no power at all. It actually react better when I don't step on it.
@@silverfox1234 I thought this is only the last gen issue but still exists. The plug in using the same system and transmission so I believe would behave the same.
I experienced the exact same problem when I test drove one 2 weeks ago. Tried to merge onto the highway and no power at all which was very scary. That helped me make the decision to pass on this it. Very disappointing.
My girlfriend and I recently picked up an X-Line version of this. It is the first Kia for both of us.There are so many good things about it, namely the looks, the interior, the fit and finish, that I try to overlook the issues it has. It rides very nice, but as you can see in the video, it has excessive body roll. That's to say nothing about the wonky-ass transmission this thing has. The hybrid might fix that major issue and I'd be okay with that. However, I would like it if I felt comfortable doing more than 40 MPH on my local on-ramp. It's kind of a bummer because I REALLY like this vehicle otherwise. Drive it before you buy it. Take it on the highway in cruise control. Make sure you can deal with it. I want to like it more than I do...
@@busterscrugs Mine is not the CVT, it's the 8 speed auto. I have a Subaru with a CVT and that is MUCH better than what Kia is bringing to the table with this one. We've had two Elantra's in the past with the 6 speed auto and they felt much better. Also, had a bunch of Honda's, and I really think they might have one of the best CVTs in the business. I'm not going to crap on a good CVT, they're good for daily do-it-all stuff.
@@th003g It was available when we needed it. Also, dealership made a pretty big mistake so we got a KILLER (like 3K off sticker) deal. I might try the PHEV when that comes out because it will, supposedly, carry the X-Line trim package with the Prestige goodies. Like an X-Pro Prestige with a hybrid. I'd be willing to at least drive one.
@@bigcjm Mild hybrid is standard in all Mazda 3 in Europe. It is just add on to reach emission goals. It does help a little bit but not as robust as HSD.
I bought a 2023 Sportage EX FWD gas-powered without the stupid sunroof. I'm getting over 40mpg on the highway and around 25 in the city becuas I keep it in smart more, I don't driveike a maniac, and kept it under $30K.
Thanks guys for featuring this vehicle. I really enjoyed hearing your thoughts. I’m on the fence about buying one. I think a person could do a whole lot worse. Lots of value for what it offers!
Been really liking Kia style these days. But did they hire they kid who designed the outgoing Civic type R? That is the busiest front end I've ever seen🤨
Best Hybrid CUV for the price. Period. The sad thing is, cars are getting boring. Everything is the same. All are for practicality unless you spend 60k or more. I know we this, it the other day while at a car show I realized how much I missed the days when cars were fun and interesting. 😢
Much prefer normal-car feel to CVT. And I do not care if this car has a sporty feel. I do wish this car came in the Vesta blue and blue-gray interior for the SX trim.
@@SingletonD well, mainly the price as my dealership offered the cheapest for the vehicle and if you get the mid range with tech package; lots of money saved.
Come on guys....I drive a 2022 Tucson Hybrid and I would say that 99.5% of time the startup of the gasoline engine from EV mode is COMPLETELY imperceptible. Even while rolling. Totally different experience than the usual CVT/hybrid drivetrains
@@ThirdBrainLives I said the same thing for many years, just like tools like you say. However, it is a very good, useful daily driver that gets excellent fuel economy. One day that may matter to you.
@@dragospahontu You may be right, but it depends on how you define "better". If you mean better fuel economy, then I would agree. But if you mean better driving experience, um, no.
Trying to decide between the Sportage SX Prestige and the Toyota Venza Limited. A few things on the Kia concern me such as reliability of the small turbo engine mated to the hybrid system. I have read that turbos run at high temperatures, and that the constant starting and stopping of the turbo engine when on/off electric power will lead to turbo problems. Anyone else heard of this? Also, I have read that the Harmon Kardon stereo is not good, and that the heated windshield elements are causing glare problems at night for some people. The Venza doesn't have a turbo on their hybrid, and it has a highly rated JBL sound system. But most reviews complain about some engine and road noise. But I think I have a Toyota bias due to their long term reliability. Thoughts?
Is it cheaper for Hyundai/Kia to use DCT/Conventional automatics in their hybrids? The reason I’m asking cause it seems like a transmission just adds more unnecessary weight to the car, not to mention an extra mechanical part to take care of.
It's easy to package this style hybrid into a vehicle also sold with conventional powertrains. The Prius-style hybrid is quite different in its shape and requires more engineering to fit.
Oh my god a midsized family CUV, JUST what the doctor ordered. Thank god. My wife’s work friend Todd said he was looking for space in the back to go on road trips with my wife! She’s so happy when they hang out together
Technically, the Sportage is a compact SUV, not a Midsized... but it's one of the largest compact SUVs and almost the same size as "midsized" SUVs... much like it's twin, the Hyundai Tucson 2022-2023.
Then don't buy a car with a 2.4L Theta engine... it's the only one causing problems (that one engine was used in multiple vehicles for awhile), and it isn't used in any Hyundai or Kia currently in production. Do your research and learn what is really causing the problem instead of saying everything is wrong, when it's the problem-maker was clearly identified. There's been zero problems with current engines.
I really like the styling, interior and out, and in something like this I too want a soft ride. I would be taking it around town where the roads are lousy, or down dirt roads to get to the mountain biking trails. My one concern is long-term reliability, any thoughts on that?
It is so weird hearing this vehicle pronounced so differently between US/Canada. When visiting the States and seeing the commercials I was all like, wtf is a [Spor-tej]. For some reason it's all fancied up to [Spor-taj] here.
My big complain with the audio system, specifically the Harmon system is that there’s no dedicated subwoofer. All the bass comes from the lower speakers in the door. No bass comes from the rear door speakers either. It can get muddy at higher volumes and the bass not coming from the back removes that bass you can feel.
Putting a turbo engine and a transmission in a compact Hibryd SUV does not make sense at all from a reliability standpoint.....more opportunities that something break
None of you "reviewers" understand how HTRAC works. HTRAC puts power to all four wheels on startup and removes power to the rear as you don't need it, except for smart mode which biases power toward the front wheels. Also, you never mention the reason why jackrabbit starts can be harsh - the lack of a torque converter. The belt driven electric/ gas transfer system substitutes for the torque converter. These cars always start in full electric mode, and as long as you don't drive like an idiot the transition from electric to gas is virtually imperceptible. The major problem with the hybrid setup becomes apparent at low speed offroading or crawling, because you are mainly limited to the 50 hp electric motor for power. If you are too heavy on the gas pedal in these situations, the system will shut down to protect the gas/ electric transfer system.
Don't really care about Type R right now. Every channel gives the same limited reveal. I rather wait til it's fully available for track, dyno, and tested without the NDA restrictions.
Price between hybrid and half hybrid is high. With that price difference You can buy 267 times gasoline wich is equal of 11 years of need. So buy the half hybrid.
I liked this hybrid system in my friends older Sonata. Would really need to compare it directly with Toyota to know which I like better, but I bet KIA would win this one.
I'd go for the Kia Carnival if it was an AWD plug in Hybrid. I'd like the room of a minivan, the awd for up north winter weather plus any bonus hybrid electric motors could give like in a Toyota Rav4 Prime. 400-600mi range I'd gladly buy that vehicle.. This shortage isn't bad though if it could last me 300k miles
Great video like always, please @savagegeese do the review about the 2023 Mitsubishi outlander PHEV, some dealers already have the preproduction sample. I would like to see your opinion about this car. Thank you!
Those coolant lines under the car look way to exposed for such a vital fluid, especially when they may subjected to harsh winter conditions in some areas.
Ford has the same thing in their Escape, Maverick and F150 hybrids. I've seen 2 early F150 hybrids leak coolant at the exhaust, surprisingly not from the lines, but from the heat exchanger itself.
@@inrirodriguez9755 The issue I see is they are too exposed. They could have ran the lines over an exhaust heat shield or add other panels like so many cars have these days.
@@niuhuskieguy the F150 has pretty heavy foil wrapping around the hoses, similar to the foil wrapping they put around certain O2 sensor wires. But right at the connector the foil ends. It's a plastic quick disconnect, so who knows how well that's going to hold up after a million heat cycles, salt and 15 years.
Out of the brands with these types of suvs, which ones don't have that issue of lag before giving power? I'd like a car that will go when I tell it to. I'm looking at CX5, Rav4, maybe CX50, and I can't even think of what else is out there. I've heard of so many problems with chevys and ford's that I am tempted to stay away from them.
Just avoid turbo engines and they should behave as you expect. The Mazdas are very reasonable choices, let down mainly by poor gas mileage and dated infotainment systems.
In Australia, we have a bespoke tune for the suspension led by an ex-racer. This removes almost all the ride issues mentioned, and makes it a lot more attractive!
Not bad....seems like, as they said, you kinda lose out with either a CVT or a traditional automatic when choosing a hybrid. Downsides here...the unnecessary touch aspects of the infotainment, the overstyled front end, and the questionable reliability of Kia/Hyundai SmartStream motors....
Yeah, I just got this car a few weeks ago. I’m pretty happy with it so far. I need a good 2-3 hour drive to see how the MPGs do. Overall I’m pleased. Good review.
I am getting one now, at around $43000 equivalent in EU. Loads of tech, upper middle spec, and compared to RAV4 it's a car from the future. MPGs might be lower on a KIA, but the comfort, space and style is the upside. In current marked you have to wait for the rav4 for 11 months xD at price +30% of Sportage. For lower and older tech, much more cheap plastic feel and garbage infotainment. KIA will be at my doorstep in 3 months. TY SG :)
I was waiting for 23 crv but after the reveal & seeing it, I walked away feeling disappointed in the small things. I placed a order for the sx prestige hybird, i think this offers the best bang for the buck for all the bells & whistles. Just gotta wait for it to come in but not paying any mark up.
the new CRV is rather lame yeah.. the kia sportage in wolf gray with red interior knocks it out of the PARK styling wise vs the CRV. Which interior color did you get?(not black right?)
Also no spare tire in the new CRV Hybrid. Understandable because of the battery placement but kinda lame considering both Venza and Sportage offer it! Must have for long drives.
I guess that if you have the money buy it, but for my needs, all the extra stuff, is not for me. KIA Sportage is a very good automobile 2019 model year I own. I have seen the Korean automobile from 1969 to 1971 to 1976 make great changes in manufacturing quality. The Koreans being with a Chevrolet model in 1976. Three tours to Korea. If I were unmarried I would move to Korea.
It's a super-strange looking vehicle. The front is alien. Those HVAC/volume controls are an enormous mistake. Deal breaker right there. A volume control that identifies as an HVAC knob? NO thanks, bro. That would drive me crazy.
On Saturday my one-owner 1999 Subaru Forester succumbed to an evil PA pothole. Ripped open the rear strut tower. RIP Subie. Today I will be out and about looking for a new ride. I'm leaning towards the Sportage, Niro or Venza hybrids.
Put on 235/45r18 tires(thinner sidewall) lower it down to car level. Boom, wagon. That is what we want. Honestly i would even go thinner tires like a 225/50r18 for better comfort/economy. I bet dropping it an inch and changing the tire you can possibly get 43-45mpg.
Seems ok😒. Manufacturers just don't make a daily vehicle for me. The Stinger & Accord are sporty & usable but what I need is a modern version of a B.A. Baracus van... An EV Mother Juggs & Speed. Maybe the VW EV van will do it... 🤔 We'll see.🤨
That EV to ICE thing you guys experienced, sounds like the thing we had on the 1st generation Optima hybrid, before they did the update to fix that. It would be in EV up to 25MPH before the gas engine came on, which made for a scary experience to merge on to a highway from a stop. Since then, they didn’t do that anymore on the Optima hybrid, you want power, you got it no matter what mode you were in. Great review guys!
H/K tuned their hybrids to start and stay in RV mode as much as possible The only way to prevent the Sportage from starting off in EV mode is to switch to Sport mode. It's something I have learned after renting a Sonata Hybrid for a few days.
@@JT-fq2bl True however, they will kick on the ICE system if you give it more acceleration and use both to power the vehicle. The newer systems had bigger electric motor that can power the wheels up to 80 mph, if you had batter power from start. I would drive my 2016 Optima hybrid in Sport mode to build up the battery, then I could drive for a few miles in EV mode around town. That instant torque off the line was fun and got me into EVs later.
$60,000 Additional Dealer Markup is added to that $34,000 price tag. Yes, close to $100,000 for that Kia. Now you know why so many people are buying 20-year-old used cars instead.
Hello I got a 2023 shortage and is very nice truck but it don’t give the mile they say only do 32 mile per gallon take look in to this and you see that is true this truck is not good because that
how often do you change the temperature on an automatic climate control system? I've had a VW Jetta GLI for 11 years and I leave it on 72 Auto for 99% of the time I've driven it. I do NOT see the 2 function system as an issue. just leave it on Radio mode and you'll be fine.
I'm glad to see that not everyone wants a sporty ride. Not all cars are sportscars. Ahem! (Insert reviewer here)
Sport age
@@spuddie3207 1st gen was a body on frame suv. And s in suv is sport. So...... Tahoe cherokee suburban ect should also drive like vettes? Right....
@@blue_lancer_es I don't think that that's dumb
This new Sportage is as big as the 2012 Sorento was when it came out.
Take a look at the RAV4 1st gen to now; it basically went from a Jimny to LandCruiser
Americans are getting bigger and bigger every year. I drive a Buick Verano which is the size of a Cruze. Every time I go to Europe on vacation and come back my Verano feels like a large sedan.
@@PianoBlackTrimRep. lol well I personally like compact or midsize automobiles my self not really into full size cars and bigger my compact Kia Sportage is just perfect size for me😁
@@PianoBlackTrimRep. Americans are fat, yes, but they're also in this weird arms race to drive the biggest goddamn vehicle on the road. If I had a dime for every tryhard douche I see driving a Sierra 2500HD or F-250 Super Duty who NEVER tows or hauls anything, I'd be a rich man.
ive noticed that with all cars. a new compact truck is as big as a 99 3/4 ton truck. honda civics are as big a full size cars a decade ago. i dont understand.
This whole video felt like you all were like, "ugh let's just get this over with". Haha
so edgy
@@Gatsun what is?
No race to a Civic type R non-reveal first-to-the-web report?!!! Thanks for actually displaying maturity and original thought regarding your content. This is a sensible vehicle and a sensible review. Porridge. Keep up the great work!
GOD I love some good porridge. Sometimes you just need to eat.
Yeah, none of the rollout reviews are really adding anything to Honda's PR video. No sense reviewing a car you can't drive to actually experience.
Oatmeal with some cinnamon.
You guys had way more fun driving this thing on a track than any other car you've reviewed. I'm now taking out a 96 month loan on a kia sportage, the dealer says its only a $12,000 markup I think I got a good deal. I'm bringing it to the nerdturdring next week, gonna set a new PBR.
12,000k mark up!. Not sure if sarcasm or not...
I actually saw a gas Sportage at 49k in dfw. Maybe go for the 108 month deal
@@rajatdixit007 96m loan and nerdturdring so he def joking
If you invest those monthly payments in stocks for 96 months, you’ll be able to buy a 2030 KIA in cash you earned in investments
@@hockey1freak really this is the give away? How about driving in on the track for the most fun ever
Even though I'm not a car guy, even I know that taking a Sportage to a race track is just heresy. Could always test how many Yuri's and Jacob's could fit in the back with the backseats folded down.
Your pals at Autobahn must have cracked up at seeing this on the track.
Great hybrids. It's a pity the dealers are killing it with "negotiable" markups. 8k 10k markups out here in LA.
I see a 5% interest rate and a markup..fuk that noise. I can pay for the gas with a ICE car for 3 years instead.
Great car, but good luck getting one. I was told more than 10 months wait for a factory order about 2 months ago. Ended up getting a Tucson instead under 2 months.
I lucked out getting the non hybrid prestige I suppose. It was more difficult finding the hybrid prestige.
There are a ton in stock here
I dunno about the front end...looks like a Pontiac Aztek for the 21st Century.
Remember this is a mid-range EX affordable hybrid so the audio is not premium. Definitely a value.
First-rate photography, looks like it was graded in post!
I love the look of this thing... don't worry Jack I still have eyes for you too 😘 ❤️
The jack giggle fest mid-corner is always the best add to these videos
He nearly expired this time
Like repurposing the mask almost as much as I like getting underneath the KIA and seeing what it is all about.
"Interesting" is the best word to describe how this car looks
“Unique”
_"Maybe you live in interesting times."_ - Chinese curse
Kia is horrible in long term reliability. Too much damn recalls
2023 Kia Sportage Hybrid: The official car of chauffeuring your dad’s girlfriends.
1:35 If I felt like I was swimming I would be inspired to make trash fashion (inside joke from Mia, sustainable artist).
Poverty spec! Nice....😆
Test drove an EX Hybrid yesterday. Loved it. But the Kia dealership added a $5000 "adjusted market value" to it. 15% mark up. Went from $34k to $43k out the door.
If you really want to get anything these days, you have to increase your search range to find a good deal and talk straight about OTD price with your own one in mind...
I bought the same model this week at MSRP. My dealer doesn’t make “market adjustments”.
@@swollcracker3993 what city/state?
Lol mark ups for a f****** Kia.
No!
How does $34 + 5 = $43?
The Kia dealerships in my area suck so much I can’t even consider them without driving at least 100mi always to find a fair deal.
Where do you live?
6:32 Ah, I see you are already wearing heat wave protection. 😄👍 (The new scourge upon humankind after the Ukraine war - hot days in summer.)
When I test drove one of these I noticed a very smooth/luxurious ride, some body roll but plenty of grip at the same time.
This vehicle feels quicker 0 to 60 than it is on paper but it does seem to run out of steam over 80 mph.
For $32,500 and up to 40 mpg combined I highly recommend this vehicle.
The front headroom is not great but it just makes the cut for me.
I could not really notice a difference with the drive modes.
Remember when texting and driving was illegal? Now we have computers and monitors to use while driving! Movie road trip incoming
why can't there be a middle ground and not just sloppy like a boat protecting your cat litter or hard like a BMW?
Why wouldn't any lincoln be a better middle ground than this?
i think I will wait a while before purchasing anything these days.
prices are horrible.
changes are coming too quickly and next year should bring a ton of newer vehicles with better middle ground and the same if not better mileage.
oh, and a recent study came out with Korean buyers being very upset with the aging of these cars in a 6 to 10year ownership.
the quality really falls off and becomes obviously cheaply made lower quality. the bling ages quickly.
this has always been the plan of these cars and MFRS.
What's the recommended Continental tire and how did it handle in Cliche Cornfield?
5:23 Finally! There it is. I was at the self-checkout with my Spotage and could not find the damn bar code to scan. Jeesh.
Simlar to my 17 Hyundai Sonata hybrid. Good tech (at the time) and comfortable ride.
Same problem (only major one) with the kick down which I think is dangerous. Try to merge on hwy and the car refuse to kick down for couple seconds and no power at all. It actually react better when I don't step on it.
Do you think the same issue would exist in the plug in hybrid model?
@@silverfox1234 I thought this is only the last gen issue but still exists. The plug in using the same system and transmission so I believe would behave the same.
That is why i use manual mode and downshift manually before actually push the pedal
I experienced the exact same problem when I test drove one 2 weeks ago. Tried to merge onto the highway and no power at all which was very scary. That helped me make the decision to pass on this it. Very disappointing.
@@trixsta54 what did you end up purchasing (if you have)?
I've been to Autobahn a few times with a friend who raced his Porsche there. Have to admit I've never seen anything like this carving the turns there.
Mark's new helmet is dope
My girlfriend and I recently picked up an X-Line version of this. It is the first Kia for both of us.There are so many good things about it, namely the looks, the interior, the fit and finish, that I try to overlook the issues it has. It rides very nice, but as you can see in the video, it has excessive body roll. That's to say nothing about the wonky-ass transmission this thing has. The hybrid might fix that major issue and I'd be okay with that. However, I would like it if I felt comfortable doing more than 40 MPH on my local on-ramp. It's kind of a bummer because I REALLY like this vehicle otherwise. Drive it before you buy it. Take it on the highway in cruise control. Make sure you can deal with it. I want to like it more than I do...
Should've gotten they hybrid, the base gas engine is barely adequate, too bad the trim you got is not available with hybrid.
what's wonky about the transmission behavior? I drove my buddy's elantra recently and thought the transmission behaved really well for a CVT.
@@busterscrugs Mine is not the CVT, it's the 8 speed auto. I have a Subaru with a CVT and that is MUCH better than what Kia is bringing to the table with this one. We've had two Elantra's in the past with the 6 speed auto and they felt much better. Also, had a bunch of Honda's, and I really think they might have one of the best CVTs in the business. I'm not going to crap on a good CVT, they're good for daily do-it-all stuff.
@@th003g It was available when we needed it. Also, dealership made a pretty big mistake so we got a KILLER (like 3K off sticker) deal. I might try the PHEV when that comes out because it will, supposedly, carry the X-Line trim package with the Prestige goodies. Like an X-Pro Prestige with a hybrid. I'd be willing to at least drive one.
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I wish the Hybrid FWD was availible in the higher trims (at least for the US) so I could get that extra combined 5 mpg. It's also 200 Lbs lighter.
It’s just too much torque for two wheels.
@@emotionz3 it uses the same engine for all trim levels though?
These guys are hilarious & know their stuff
Hybrid+Turbo is like a bipolar person with 2 negatives characteristics.
Then why is mild hybrid making it's was across most luxury brands? The whole point is for that mild hybrid is to mask turbo lag.
@@bigcjm Mild hybrid is standard in all Mazda 3 in Europe. It is just add on to reach emission goals. It does help a little bit but not as robust as HSD.
I bought a 2023 Sportage EX FWD gas-powered without the stupid sunroof. I'm getting over 40mpg on the highway and around 25 in the city becuas I keep it in smart more, I don't driveike a maniac, and kept it under $30K.
How come you didn’t get all wheel drive instead?
@@jeremyshearer3885 Because I don't need it?
But driving like a maniac is more fun...
Great choice. Sportage is the uncrowned king of the segment.
I swear half the time I am laughing is just because Jack is laughing. 😂😂
The way those tires sqeal like a small mouse when in snow mode really makes my junk twitch. Nothing else I could ask for 🥰
Wait how’d you make this comment “3d ago?” 😂
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@@franstanade Good eye lmfao.
What do you expect from the Goodyear Assurance Finesse! One of the very high performance tires!
Nate the junk twitching legend
Thanks guys for featuring this vehicle. I really enjoyed hearing your thoughts. I’m on the fence about buying one. I think a person could do a whole lot worse. Lots of value for what it offers!
I’ll trade in my GT3 for this brilliance
Godvforbyoy
Been really liking Kia style these days. But did they hire they kid who designed the outgoing Civic type R? That is the busiest front end I've ever seen🤨
yup, kia civic type R. designed by toddlers for toddlers. my local kia dealership was fresh out of them too, must be a supply chain issue.
Best Hybrid CUV for the price. Period. The sad thing is, cars are getting boring. Everything is the same. All are for practicality unless you spend 60k or more. I know we this, it the other day while at a car show I realized how much I missed the days when cars were fun and interesting. 😢
Much prefer normal-car feel to CVT. And I do not care if this car has a sporty feel. I do wish this car came in the Vesta blue and blue-gray interior for the SX trim.
I would of considered this, but the dealerships are the worst period and settled on a Mazda Cx 5 (no regrets)
Why didn't you wait for the CX-50?
@@SingletonD well, mainly the price as my dealership offered the cheapest for the vehicle and if you get the mid range with tech package; lots of money saved.
You made the right choice. The Mazda will be a lot better in terms of long term maintenance than the sportage.
@@-Unguardian- That's fair. The CX 5 is a good car and pretty popular. Best driving experience in the class. It is just too small for me. Have fun!
You should look around harder. Sportage is just brilliant inside & out. The hybrid especially is the king of the segment.
Come on guys....I drive a 2022 Tucson Hybrid and I would say that 99.5% of time the startup of the gasoline engine from EV mode is COMPLETELY imperceptible. Even while rolling. Totally different experience than the usual CVT/hybrid drivetrains
Imagine buying a Hyundai.
@@ThirdBrainLives I said the same thing for many years, just like tools like you say. However, it is a very good, useful daily driver that gets excellent fuel economy. One day that may matter to you.
@@moorfan1 the old Kia and Hyundai jokes are from the past, let him live on his cave.
E-cvt is better though.
@@dragospahontu You may be right, but it depends on how you define "better". If you mean better fuel economy, then I would agree. But if you mean better driving experience, um, no.
The thought of this Kia Sportage having more track time than many Corvettes and Mustangs is downright depressing.
oh man i had a mouth full of breakfast burrito when the mask on the forehead shot came up hahaha
Trying to decide between the Sportage SX Prestige and the Toyota Venza Limited. A few things on the Kia concern me such as reliability of the small turbo engine mated to the hybrid system. I have read that turbos run at high temperatures, and that the constant starting and stopping of the turbo engine when on/off electric power will lead to turbo problems. Anyone else heard of this? Also, I have read that the Harmon Kardon stereo is not good, and that the heated windshield elements are causing glare problems at night for some people.
The Venza doesn't have a turbo on their hybrid, and it has a highly rated JBL sound system. But most reviews complain about some engine and road noise. But I think I have a Toyota bias due to their long term reliability. Thoughts?
Is it cheaper for Hyundai/Kia to use DCT/Conventional automatics in their hybrids? The reason I’m asking cause it seems like a transmission just adds more unnecessary weight to the car, not to mention an extra mechanical part to take care of.
It’s cheaper not to completely develop a new Aisin style E-CVT
It's easy to package this style hybrid into a vehicle also sold with conventional powertrains. The Prius-style hybrid is quite different in its shape and requires more engineering to fit.
@@markmiller3279 Sounds like hybrid setup wasn't the priority when developing the N3 architecture.
Yeah the ux here is f'd up.
Another cuv to fade into the background on my commute, disappearing from memory as quickly and as uneventfully as a sneeze.
I thought the Sportage was too boring-looking... it's why I bought a 2023 Tucson Hybrid... it turns heads.
Oh my god a midsized family CUV, JUST what the doctor ordered. Thank god. My wife’s work friend Todd said he was looking for space in the back to go on road trips with my wife! She’s so happy when they hang out together
Hear ya.
Technically, the Sportage is a compact SUV, not a Midsized... but it's one of the largest compact SUVs and almost the same size as "midsized" SUVs... much like it's twin, the Hyundai Tucson 2022-2023.
"NPC elements" is a fantastic term that I'm stealing now
I don't trust KIA quality anymore, especially their engines.
Then don't buy a car with a 2.4L Theta engine... it's the only one causing problems (that one engine was used in multiple vehicles for awhile), and it isn't used in any Hyundai or Kia currently in production. Do your research and learn what is really causing the problem instead of saying everything is wrong, when it's the problem-maker was clearly identified. There's been zero problems with current engines.
I really like the styling, interior and out, and in something like this I too want a soft ride. I would be taking it around town where the roads are lousy, or down dirt roads to get to the mountain biking trails. My one concern is long-term reliability, any thoughts on that?
y'all ought to take all suv's to the track from now on lol, that was a lot of fun to watch!
It is so weird hearing this vehicle pronounced so differently between US/Canada. When visiting the States and seeing the commercials I was all like, wtf is a [Spor-tej]. For some reason it's all fancied up to [Spor-taj] here.
What is that clacking!!???
Wasn’t expecting a track impression 👍👍
My big complain with the audio system, specifically the Harmon system is that there’s no dedicated subwoofer. All the bass comes from the lower speakers in the door. No bass comes from the rear door speakers either. It can get muddy at higher volumes and the bass not coming from the back removes that bass you can feel.
Putting a turbo engine and a transmission in a compact Hibryd SUV does not make sense at all from a reliability standpoint.....more opportunities that something break
None of you "reviewers" understand how HTRAC works. HTRAC puts power to all four wheels on startup and removes power to the rear as you don't need it, except for smart mode which biases power toward the front wheels. Also, you never mention the reason why jackrabbit starts can be harsh - the lack of a torque converter. The belt driven electric/ gas transfer system substitutes for the torque converter. These cars always start in full electric mode, and as long as you don't drive like an idiot the transition from electric to gas is virtually imperceptible. The major problem with the hybrid setup becomes apparent at low speed offroading or crawling, because you are mainly limited to the 50 hp electric motor for power. If you are too heavy on the gas pedal in these situations, the system will shut down to protect the gas/ electric transfer system.
Don't really care about Type R right now. Every channel gives the same limited reveal. I rather wait til it's fully available for track, dyno, and tested without the NDA restrictions.
Price between hybrid and half hybrid is high. With that price difference You can buy 267 times gasoline wich is equal of 11 years of need. So buy the half hybrid.
What the heck is a KN .?
I can't be the only one that sees NIN when they see the new Kia logo. Nine Inch Nails should market their own replacement badges.
Will this vehicle last for 12-15 years?
LMAO no way
Lol. No. These flavor of the moment vehicles will appear and disappear quickly from roadways.
No. Its a KIA it wont last much longer than its warranty.
Sitting in your garage, no problem.
Have been driving one into 12th years. I would say it is possible.
"my dad's girlfriends"... he hit the nail on the head.
I liked this hybrid system in my friends older Sonata. Would really need to compare it directly with Toyota to know which I like better, but I bet KIA would win this one.
The audio control ALONE is reason not to buy this - too brutally stupid for words.
Glad. for your crv comment. Would love for a comparison when it is out for testing. The Sportage interior tries so much harder and wins points.
Honestly Crv is a joke compared to the Sportage. Interior, exterior, powertrain nothing to complain really.
I'd go for the Kia Carnival if it was an AWD plug in Hybrid.
I'd like the room of a minivan, the awd for up north winter weather plus any bonus hybrid electric motors could give like in a Toyota Rav4 Prime.
400-600mi range
I'd gladly buy that vehicle..
This shortage isn't bad though if it could last me 300k miles
Stay high my friend 🔥
@@Ecuador006 I gotta stay high with my list of car demands
Nice cheap driving helmet for the front of your head.
Great video. Love you guys
Great video like always, please @savagegeese do the review about the 2023 Mitsubishi outlander PHEV, some dealers already have the preproduction sample. I would like to see your opinion about this car. Thank you!
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I drove a new Tucson with the Bose stereo and it absolutely sucked compared to the Bose in my 2020 Sonata
Wrong
Man fuck all these vinyl seats. I like cloth.
Those coolant lines under the car look way to exposed for such a vital fluid, especially when they may subjected to harsh winter conditions in some areas.
It's a Kia
@@ThirdBrainLives Starting to complicate their engineering in a way it doesn't have to be.
Ford has the same thing in their Escape, Maverick and F150 hybrids. I've seen 2 early F150 hybrids leak coolant at the exhaust, surprisingly not from the lines, but from the heat exchanger itself.
@@inrirodriguez9755 The issue I see is they are too exposed. They could have ran the lines over an exhaust heat shield or add other panels like so many cars have these days.
@@niuhuskieguy the F150 has pretty heavy foil wrapping around the hoses, similar to the foil wrapping they put around certain O2 sensor wires. But right at the connector the foil ends. It's a plastic quick disconnect, so who knows how well that's going to hold up after a million heat cycles, salt and 15 years.
I like the interior and exterior looks of the Sportage Hybrid. My only concern would be with the turbo/hybrid combination long term reliability.
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@@sharonbraselton3135 Huh?
@@audiophanatic4331 LMFAO
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Bird chirpping is a nice touch
Looks absolutely boring as hell. Not for me.
Out of the brands with these types of suvs, which ones don't have that issue of lag before giving power? I'd like a car that will go when I tell it to. I'm looking at CX5, Rav4, maybe CX50, and I can't even think of what else is out there. I've heard of so many problems with chevys and ford's that I am tempted to stay away from them.
Don’t think. Get the CX-5 (or CX-50 if you can find one.).
Just avoid turbo engines and they should behave as you expect. The Mazdas are very reasonable choices, let down mainly by poor gas mileage and dated infotainment systems.
In Australia, we have a bespoke tune for the suspension led by an ex-racer. This removes almost all the ride issues mentioned, and makes it a lot more attractive!
What issues? If you want a soft riding SUV, this is it. (Also the Kelly Brook review has said this is quieter than a Lexus UX.)
Not bad....seems like, as they said, you kinda lose out with either a CVT or a traditional automatic when choosing a hybrid.
Downsides here...the unnecessary touch aspects of the infotainment, the overstyled front end, and the questionable reliability of Kia/Hyundai SmartStream motors....
Yeah, I just got this car a few weeks ago. I’m pretty happy with it so far. I need a good 2-3 hour drive to see how the MPGs do. Overall I’m pleased. Good review.
Is the drive suspension firm or soft?
A lesson I learned about buying a car for fuel economy: TEST DRIVE IN THE WINTER ❄️ ♻️ ⬇️
What’s the update on the mpg?
Any update on how it's handling for you so far?
I am getting one now, at around $43000 equivalent in EU. Loads of tech, upper middle spec, and compared to RAV4 it's a car from the future. MPGs might be lower on a KIA, but the comfort, space and style is the upside. In current marked you have to wait for the rav4 for 11 months xD at price +30% of Sportage. For lower and older tech, much more cheap plastic feel and garbage infotainment. KIA will be at my doorstep in 3 months. TY SG :)
I was waiting for 23 crv but after the reveal & seeing it, I walked away feeling disappointed in the small things.
I placed a order for the sx prestige hybird, i think this offers the best bang for the buck for all the bells & whistles.
Just gotta wait for it to come in but not paying any mark up.
the new CRV is rather lame yeah.. the kia sportage in wolf gray with red interior knocks it out of the PARK styling wise vs the CRV. Which interior color did you get?(not black right?)
Also no spare tire in the new CRV Hybrid. Understandable because of the battery placement but kinda lame considering both Venza and Sportage offer it! Must have for long drives.
I guess that if you have the money buy it, but for my needs, all the extra stuff, is not for me. KIA Sportage is a very good automobile 2019 model year I own. I have seen the Korean automobile from 1969 to 1971 to 1976 make great changes in manufacturing quality. The Koreans being with a Chevrolet model in 1976. Three tours to Korea. If I were unmarried I would move to Korea.
It's a super-strange looking vehicle. The front is alien. Those HVAC/volume controls are an enormous mistake. Deal breaker right there.
A volume control that identifies as an HVAC knob? NO thanks, bro. That would drive me crazy.
You spelled ‘Affordable’ wrong. Apparently it’s “Market Adjustment of 9,999.00” according to the local dealerships….
Question: I have the 23 Kia sportage with grey seats and I have blue jean stains that I've tried everything to get out. Any suggestions ?
On Saturday my one-owner 1999 Subaru Forester succumbed to an evil PA pothole. Ripped open the rear strut tower. RIP Subie. Today I will be out and about looking for a new ride. I'm leaning towards the Sportage, Niro or Venza hybrids.
Put on 235/45r18 tires(thinner sidewall) lower it down to car level. Boom, wagon. That is what we want. Honestly i would even go thinner tires like a 225/50r18 for better comfort/economy. I bet dropping it an inch and changing the tire you can possibly get 43-45mpg.
Seems ok😒. Manufacturers just don't make a daily vehicle for me. The Stinger & Accord are sporty & usable but what I need is a modern version of a B.A. Baracus van... An EV Mother Juggs & Speed. Maybe the VW EV van will do it... 🤔 We'll see.🤨
That EV to ICE thing you guys experienced, sounds like the thing we had on the 1st generation Optima hybrid, before they did the update to fix that. It would be in EV up to 25MPH before the gas engine came on, which made for a scary experience to merge on to a highway from a stop. Since then, they didn’t do that anymore on the Optima hybrid, you want power, you got it no matter what mode you were in. Great review guys!
H/K tuned their hybrids to start and stay in RV mode as much as possible The only way to prevent the Sportage from starting off in EV mode is to switch to Sport mode. It's something I have learned after renting a Sonata Hybrid for a few days.
@@JT-fq2bl True however, they will kick on the ICE system if you give it more acceleration and use both to power the vehicle. The newer systems had bigger electric motor that can power the wheels up to 80 mph, if you had batter power from start. I would drive my 2016 Optima hybrid in Sport mode to build up the battery, then I could drive for a few miles in EV mode around town. That instant torque off the line was fun and got me into EVs later.
$60,000 Additional Dealer Markup is added to that $34,000 price tag. Yes, close to $100,000 for that Kia. Now you know why so many people are buying 20-year-old used cars instead.
@savagegeese - confirming the model you had was the base audio system (not the optional upgraded audio system)?
They were in a mid-trim Sportage, you only get premium audio in top-trim, so yes, it was the default audio system.
The Topher tested the Harman/Kardon speakers and he wasn’t impressed with their output either vs. competitive premium speaker setups in other cars.
Make a video on new 2022 Outlander please.
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This will easily dominate Rav4 & Crv. Its simply the best SUV currently on the market. Only if Kia can produce enough.
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how often do you change the temperature on an automatic climate control system? I've had a VW Jetta GLI for 11 years and I leave it on 72 Auto for 99% of the time I've driven it. I do NOT see the 2 function system as an issue. just leave it on Radio mode and you'll be fine.