All better than HD or bmw Currently Kawasaki is the best Yamaha would be up top with them if they still made the R6 and wr250r Honda is Honda and always solid Suzuki is still better than HD/bmw/ktm
@@user-pf6wl4hv5jAs a proud owner of a 2006 Honda 919, Honda is not best. Yamaha most definitely is. By best I mean quality/power/looks for the money. Suzuki used to be the most innovative, now Yamaha is. Honda has let their moto line get a bit repetitive and boring.
Only ever owned bikes from the 70s to the 2000s and mostly dual sports, so my opinion is based on that : Honda number 1 (smoothest motors and best quality of materials and paints) Suzuki 2 (most reliable and affordable) and Yamaha 3 (cool quirky bikes). Only had road Kawasakis, so I don't really know, but I loved my W650. The ER6 not so much.
Just bought one this year after months of studying reviews and have had been on a drz400 and a variety of street bikes I will say the dr 650 has not let me down and out of every car, bike, vehicle I've owned every one has disappointed me in some way or another wishing I had more I don't feel that on the dr 650 that's what surprised me the most it's powerful, fairly fast for a thumper, good offroad fairly good on fuel and simple I'll never sell mine I almost wanna buy another when the payments are done lmao !
I've got a number of motorcycles but if I could only have just one motorcycle it would definitely be my DR650. More fun and strangely more satisfying than any other motorcycle
I have a 2022 model and I will say your dad is correct, the DR650 is everything you want in the bush and nothing you don't want. There just aren't that many points of failure on this bike... no radiator, no radiator hoses, no thermostat, no electric fuel pump, no injectors, no injector wiring, no fuel injection computer, it just doesn't have any of those things to fail on you in the middle of nowhere (which is where adventure bikes find themselves most times). It amazes me that motorcycle manufacturers will refer to a bike as an "Adventure Bike" when the bike is loaded up with so many points of failure it's really the last thing you want out on the trail with you. The DR650 delivers dead solid reliability in an age where that kind of thing isn't deemed "profitable" by the manufacturers. Basically, your dad is right... it's the greatest bike ever made.
@@AusMoto I find that most times the technology doesn't benefit YOU, it benefits the manufacturer. The tech is going to fail, and when it does you'll have to go to the manufacturer to get a new one, which makes them money. Problem is, when you're out in the bush you don't want FAILURE... Somehow I don't think the manufacturer cares about that.
Great video! I love my DR. I decided to get one brand new this year before Canada decides to remove even more joy from our lives through over-reaching regulation. The greatest appeal is its minimalism. Yes, the brakes are not great, the range with the stock tank is limited, and it doesn't do anything particularly well. But it goes everywhere, and it puts a big smile on my face every time I ride.
Watching several youtubers from Australia , torture and tour the bush with the dr650 was a strong reason I chose to buy one. If it can survive that environment and keep coming back for more , that's the bike for me.
I’ve sold two other bikes since getting my DR. Had I discovered this bike earlier in life, I would’ve saved tons of money over the years. Once you fit it to your liking, it’s really impossible to want to part with it. I don’t think I’ll sell mine anytime soon!
Great overview, looking at purchasing one myself soon. Cant get over how similar your area looks to my own here in the States, like riding in my own neighborhood.
I just completed the ride on my DR650 from Melbourne to Cape York and back, 10,000ks, not hiccup, misfire or problem, ran like a dream, so GOAT, YES. as you said, it's been the same design since it was marketed in 1990, so how do you determine if it's the greatest. What other motorcycle is still being manufactured with the same components and only colour and decal changes, probably none. They are easy to maintain, and anyone with the basic mechanical skills can repair and service quite easily. The only other bike that has that sort of history is probably the small dual sports CT90/CT110 postie bikes, which is one of the highest selling motorcycle, funny I wouldn't have thought it as a dual sport bike. As for these two designs, if it's ain't broken, don't f@#k with it.
all I did to max the brakes performance was EBC *sintered* pads, but you could also double the precision by adding a radial brake lever if you want.. the sintered pads changed A LOT for me 🎉
@@AusMoto I have no idea what brands you can get there, but I promise it might worth a little internet homework, and even calling\messaging some people(hopefully pro's) much luck ride smart & safe 💪🏽
I regret selling mine, but just putting it on paper the 400 seems to be the better bike all round. In saying that once the right bike presents itself on market place I’ll be buying it wether it’s a 650 or 400
the 400 is awesome. it is lighter, quicker (with SM setup anyhow), and has near as much grunt however, and this is a big however, if you ever touch a high speed highway the DR will immediately show you why it exists. The 400 is fine to 55-60, but that aint gonna cut it when traffic is 75-80. Even my DR starts winding out, but not near as bad as the DRZ and its got substantially less vibration.
Cool Video, they are great bikes. Two Aussies (North and Left a Bit) went across southern and Central Asia on their DR650's. I ride a DR200 which has a real farm bike vibe and is a mini-650, identical in many features such as oil cooling and electrics. It's all about luggability, there are plenty of times when you only riding at 30kph on dirt but you need all the torque. The 650 is perfect for this. It's a pity the 650 doesn't have a kick starter, I've often needed to us mine, the small battery is a weak point.
Yes I've watched all of their videos and what a great example of these great bikes! I'd love to give a DR200 a shot one day, look like a super fun and reliable bike!
I’ve decided that I’m buying a DR650 as my retirement (from both work and racing) bike. I was planning on an adventure bike but I want something similar can fix on the road or trail, simple, cost effective and stone reliable. I might not go far and fast but for my needs I believe it’s the perfect do it all bike.
I have a 2008, some minor mods to carbie, to was lean on highway and part throttle. Up 3 teeth on back sprocket, gearing was not quiet right for 60, 80,100kph.
Definitely the GOAT. My 2014 has been used as a courier bike in Melbourne for 6 years, ridden around the Vic high country roads and tracks and toured around Europe. My 2005 was a courier bike for 9 years and done a few trip around Victoria on the dirt and still running 18 years later, both bikes bought new for $8000. 2005= 505,000 klms 2014= 330,000 Klm’s Try that with a modern bike.
I bought a brand new DR650 two weeks ago here in Colorado. I've owned plenty of bikes over the years. The DR is a fun bike. I haven't had the chance to take it on trails yet, but I can't wait to see how it does there. I'm waiting for my Plex Valves and the Seat Concepts seat. It would be such a shame if they'd have to stop producing this motorcycle in this form to comply with regulations. It would go the way the KLR is going, getting heavier and less dirt capable. May the story of the DR go on for ever.
Got mine this year, 2023. Ride two up on the highway 110kmh. putt around on the trails. gravel roads, Bomb around the city on the weekends sightseeing. sometimes at night. all two up. cranked the rear spring up a bit. set compression to hard and put on a seat concepts seat. And left it stock. Calling it a day with wondering about other bikes I think, I want a sport bike but, ha... I dunno after having this thing lug us around. its to simple and satisfying. a pure legendary bike indeed. I ride in Alberta canada.
Rode a 98 model DR around British Columbia. Did china head trail .Alexandra Mackenzie trail . Stayed with ranchers in that area. Great times then down through USA including the origin coast back country mainly forest. Shipped it Victoria Aust. Did the high country on a organise ride by the late Tony Kirby . Twenty five thousand tuff kms. Not one issue. Didn’t realise I was riding a leg and at the time, but we got a lot of riders attention.👍
Rare as hen’s teeth here in the UK where they never really took off. Over here, legendary status belongs to the Suzuki DL650 Vstrom , possibly the most comfortable and reliable all round bike ever made. Not really designed for off roading which is where the DR650 scores.
Same design since 1996. I had one and put over 55,000 miles on it before selling it. My big thumper has been a KTM690 since 2016. Still miss the DR but I do like the power and suspension of the 690. With the DR you don’t need ABS it won’t lock up the front wheel unless you really crush it.
Having owned a DR and now a '23 KLR, I have to mostly agree. In the 'real' world, the KLR is much better on road where both bikes actually ride. The KLR is smoother, more comfortable, more stable, faster, better fuel range, etc. That said, the DR is without a doubt the one you want when SHTF: carb, screw-type valve adjustment...just simple as an anvil. Either way you can't go wrong.
It's a great compromise and a perfect base for mods. Mine has WP forks, Brembo saddle in front, Öhlins in the rear, so it's pretty good for my unpaved-road needs and with proper 2ndary gearing I can do 800 miles in three days without pain. The worst feature is the fuel consumption.
Unfortunately we didn't get this bike in The Netherlands, but i'd love to have one. Only thing i think it needs is a kickstarter. When you're in the middle of nowhere with a dead battery, bike full of luggage and tough terrain, you're gonna have a very tough time getting it started.
No kicker but you can bump start the bike. I had to once while running full heated gear. I stopped for gas and my gear used all my recharging wattage plus some of the battery so it wouldn’t crank. Cranked right up when I pushed started it. The bad thing is I had to ride home without heated gear and it had dropped to 27F.
Nice. Toyed with gettin one of these to do adv,.camp bike trips. Already have an xr650r tho, plated so no real need except e start. Basic bike = more "uptime" to use a computer term, ready to go.
Mine was the worst bike I ever had. Sidestand lugs had to be hammered back straight frequently as they'd bend under the bike's weight, had a sudden and catastrophic oil leak from the cam chain tensioner that dumped almost all it's oil in a very short ride, nothing was lubed from the factory or dealer, the seat would cause pain after just a few kms, etc... Great bike if you spend as much as the purchase price on mods.
I do believe you're correct concerning this bike & it's little brother the DRz400..... both are impressive for longevity & I've just looked up the local dealers which has the Drz400 at a higher price than the 650.... go figure? But I'd probably look around for a good used bike? Who knows, I'm trying to get the heads up on 400's & I saw you so I think I like this bike more than the DRz400. Both have the same reliability.... ride on
5 speeds huh, ohh yeah & that's one drawback to the DRz400 on the highway, w/ only 5 speeds running at the 70-75mph speed limits you're up in the rpm range making it somewhat shaky/sketchy. Gets worse in high wind conditions so you've almost sold me on this bike for a Dual Sport. peace
Good bikes, great adv bikes. Like all bikes, definitely killable. OEM suspension is rubbish, but upgraded, it's quite good. My son hated mine because it was old fashioned and agricultural, I saw that a feature. All day loaded touring at 100km/h on road or dirt was easy. Owners can be cultish... GOAT? Unicorn? Nope, not for me, but certainly for many. Best value? Definitely. You got a hell of a lot of bike for not much money. Newer bikes are objectively better, but the DR will always have a space in my heart.
@@AusMoto absolutely , but it’s a good all rounder , but the greatest ? .. if not I don’t know what is the greatest , maybe a Z1 maybe a Bonnie , a Honda-4 maybe a 800GS , it’s up there for sure .. a XT500 won the first two Dakar’s but didn’t hang around in it’s original state , it morphed into water cooling & injection where the DR did not but does make it great ? Just because Suzuki thought let’s not mess with it because it’s still selling … it’s probably too subjective , but maybe
Hello from Germany! At the time I own three DR 650 SP46. One in showroom condition, one as daily driver and cross country enduro bike...and...well one dissmantled because of the famous 3rd gear issue. Before those three, I had two more...one is in use by my son...the other sold to a friend. All togehter in my enviroment of friends, there are about 10 machines. So...no doubts about the DR 650 SP 46 beeing a great bike. But the geatest of all time? Well there is the issue with the 3rd gear already mentioned...happens to the majority of the DRs here...fixing it is a financial desaster...or...a complete overhaul, if you can do yourself. Then always the fixing screws of the neutral switch get lose and may cause sever engine damage if you do not fix this The bearing of the wheels are bad, they wear ou very fast...same ist the steerring head beering. The read shock is also far too soft, the adjustment screw in the damper has no effect...you cannot change the spring precharge withaot taking the shock out. So ....well the best bike....no...unfortunately not. I also own some KLR 650 from the late 80th...well....problem like this are unknown....90.000 km...first engine, never open, original bearings.
Back in 1989 I had a Yamaha XT600 that I drove from SoCal down the Baja peninsula. With a tent, sleeping bag, gallon of water, and two-piece fishing rod. Talk about fun! It was a simple dual sport bike and I miss it, because of the simplicity. Compared with modern bikes it was crap. Really makes me want a more modern equivalent like the DR.
I had a DR 650 for a long time. Very fun bike. And yes it will do a little bit of everything OK.I moved to the beach and tried to take that heavy bike in the sand with knobby tires.I only did that twice. Got rid of it got a Purpose built dirtbike and a purpose built street bike. But if I can only have one bike and it had to last forever, I think it would probably be the DR 650. However, there is nothing like a two-stroke in the sand. And there’s nothing like 100 hp plus Street bike impossible to make both into one bike at this time. Yesterday I looked at a Tiger 1200 and I stood there laughing beside it. The salesman said why are you laughing and I said because people watch the commercials for these things, and think they can take a 500 pound motorcycle in the sand. What a complete joke. I wouldn’t take the damn thing down a gravel road. But that’s why they make a lot of different bikes for a lot of different people that have a Lotta different needs. The bottom line is ride hard and keep the shiny side up.
Agreed, you can always get a bike specific for the riding or you can go a dual sport which is about compromising, but lets you do the most amount of different types of riding
I had a DR for many years. Master of nothing but capable of almost everything. Reliable, heavy, terrible suspension and brakes, enough power, and lots of after market fit out if you are the sort of character that is happy to ride past the local cafe and get dirty
I have one. For sure it is one of the greatest motorcycles but the seat is abysmally bad. Who designed and approved the mass production of that year after year.
I can’t comment on the stock seat as I haven’t tried it but I’d imagine it would suck just as much as all the other dual sports. I’ve never ridden one with a good stock seat and I’ve pretty much ridden every dual sport there is haha
First off, yeah you better do what pops tells ya, he's a big ol boy😳. Second, dang that thing looks like it pulls pretty hard. While I do agree it is the best all around bike and some mods will fix the shortcomings of the suspension and whatnot, I think the T7 will soon take it's place, but I'm a bit biased towards the T7 now😜. I am really partial to fuel injection but, you do have a point about fueling issues. If there were any problems you could limp it to a repair shop, or fix it yourself, where fuel injection issues will leave you calling a tow truck.
So to say that, you must have rode a hundred bikes? Go ahead with a old carb. Bike kick only start or electric tip it over then pick it up and start it, probably flooded. Drop fuel injection bike upside-down and they start right away, one example but if your low on $$$$ DR or XL your self
I concur. Great bike. I think it only needs fuel injection, a taller 5th gear or even a 6th and a higher output alternator. All the rest of the minor deficencies are easily fixed by a DIY capable wrencher.
And what happens when your electric fuel pump or injectors or injector wiring fail on you 200 miles out in the bush? You're gonna wish you had a carburetor when that occurs, and sooner or later it will occur.
IMO. Yes. It’s one of 2 bikes that has not been changed in over 20 + years. No other model even comes close. This & the drz 400. Are 2 of the most durable & reliable bikes ever mass produced. Mods are just about endless. Just a shame they don’t make them anymore!
...I forgot the startermotor...they all fail and the bearings need to be changed...if you look at it right at the beginning of it screaming, you can save it just cleaning it and by greasing the bearings
sorry, i prefer something with EFI. I ride til winter, when temperatures can be -5C to 0C, i like easy starting and go. I don't want to deal of flooded engine or long warmup. If only yamaha make a WR400R or honda XR400L and get it close to 300 lbs
Tuff call. Agree its awesome...but i lean more towards its younger brother. 53,000 miles and runs better than new. Best bike i have owned in 35 years. Zero issues in 53,000 miles...well zero issues that werent easily, cheaply and quick fix. Only left me stranded 1 time, bad battery...two cells damaged so only put out 10v. Other than that, which was only a 3 month old battery, which is bizzar, cause i replaced it with a 3 year old battery i had laying around, and that was at the begining of the summer.
It’s hard to beat the Honda XR650L. I’d say they are about tied and beat out the KLR simply due to reliability. The greatest bike ever though is going to be the Honda Trail/Hunter Cub series. How can you not vote for the Postie Bike?
What are your thoughts?
S for life, started on a RM 80 thirty five years ago at the age of six and have stuck with Suzuki the whole way through. Have never let me down
All better than HD or bmw
Currently Kawasaki is the best Yamaha would be up top with them if they still made the R6 and wr250r Honda is Honda and always solid Suzuki is still better than HD/bmw/ktm
Service the front brake system. They should lock the front no problem in good working condition with good pads.
@@user-pf6wl4hv5jAs a proud owner of a 2006 Honda 919, Honda is not best. Yamaha most definitely is. By best I mean quality/power/looks for the money. Suzuki used to be the most innovative, now Yamaha is. Honda has let their moto line get a bit repetitive and boring.
Only ever owned bikes from the 70s to the 2000s and mostly dual sports, so my opinion is based on that :
Honda number 1 (smoothest motors and best quality of materials and paints) Suzuki 2 (most reliable and affordable) and Yamaha 3 (cool quirky bikes).
Only had road Kawasakis, so I don't really know, but I loved my W650. The ER6 not so much.
Bought a brand new DR650 last year. Love it lots! Still being sold like hot cakes here in Canada.
That’s awesome!
You are very lucky, here in South Africa we can't have them.😢
Just bought one this year after months of studying reviews and have had been on a drz400 and a variety of street bikes I will say the dr 650 has not let me down and out of every car, bike, vehicle I've owned every one has disappointed me in some way or another wishing I had more I don't feel that on the dr 650 that's what surprised me the most it's powerful, fairly fast for a thumper, good offroad fairly good on fuel and simple I'll never sell mine I almost wanna buy another when the payments are done lmao !
@@CalPeters How lucky are you,they won't import them in my country.
Do the go comfortably on the highway without stressing the motor too much
The DR650 is definitely one of greatest vehicles ever.
I certainly agree!
Your Dad standing there holding the staff at the very start, like he’s straight out of the Old Testament about to rain down fire and brimstone 😂
Hahahaha 😂
Like the Moses of motorcycles.
I've got a number of motorcycles but if I could only have just one motorcycle it would definitely be my DR650. More fun and strangely more satisfying than any other motorcycle
They’re just such good all around bikes!
Yep totally agree with everything you said - us older guys love ❤️ our DRs....except for the brakes
Such a good bike, thanks JB!
I have a 2022 model and I will say your dad is correct, the DR650 is everything you want in the bush and nothing you don't want. There just aren't that many points of failure on this bike... no radiator, no radiator hoses, no thermostat, no electric fuel pump, no injectors, no injector wiring, no fuel injection computer, it just doesn't have any of those things to fail on you in the middle of nowhere (which is where adventure bikes find themselves most times). It amazes me that motorcycle manufacturers will refer to a bike as an "Adventure Bike" when the bike is loaded up with so many points of failure it's really the last thing you want out on the trail with you. The DR650 delivers dead solid reliability in an age where that kind of thing isn't deemed "profitable" by the manufacturers. Basically, your dad is right... it's the greatest bike ever made.
100% mate, even though I find the technology interesting on the new bikes, I’ll take basic tech any day of the week!
@@AusMoto I find that most times the technology doesn't benefit YOU, it benefits the manufacturer. The tech is going to fail, and when it does you'll have to go to the manufacturer to get a new one, which makes them money. Problem is, when you're out in the bush you don't want FAILURE... Somehow I don't think the manufacturer cares about that.
Great video! I love my DR. I decided to get one brand new this year before Canada decides to remove even more joy from our lives through over-reaching regulation. The greatest appeal is its minimalism. Yes, the brakes are not great, the range with the stock tank is limited, and it doesn't do anything particularly well. But it goes everywhere, and it puts a big smile on my face every time I ride.
Thanks and agree about the minimalism!
Watching several youtubers from Australia , torture and tour the bush with the dr650 was a strong reason I chose to buy one. If it can survive that environment and keep coming back for more , that's the bike for me.
It sure is a beast!
I been in love with one for 19 years, and no complains, greetings from Tarrazu Costa Rica.
They are an amazing bike!
I’ve sold two other bikes since getting my DR. Had I discovered this bike earlier in life, I would’ve saved tons of money over the years. Once you fit it to your liking, it’s really impossible to want to part with it. I don’t think I’ll sell mine anytime soon!
Great to hear you’ve ended up on the bike that suits you!
Agreed I’ve had ducatis, ktms my dr is by far the funnest bike I’ve owned
Looking at buying one at the end of the year, binge watching DR videos. Love it
You’ll love it!
Steel braided hose on front brake. Noticeable improvement for 80 bucks.
I'll let dad know, cheers!
Was hoping to see some skids, jumps, wheelies and hard enduro on the DR mate 😅 some good points tho cheers 🍻
I think I’d end up disowned 😅😂
Nice video mate.
The DRs are really great bikes, your old man makes a good point, simple and bulletproof.
Thanks heaps mate!
Great overview, looking at purchasing one myself soon. Cant get over how similar your area looks to my own here in the States, like riding in my own neighborhood.
That’s awesome, good luck with your purchase!
Takes me back. I had the DR 600 and wish I'd never sold it. It was a bike I trusted when things got crazy. Just bought the 23 model v strom 650xt.
The vstroms are great bikes, I have a vstrom 1000 myself! 👍
The new 800 is looking interesting as well. Picking up my 650 in a few days. I'll never forget my DR 600 though. @@AusMoto
I just completed the ride on my DR650 from Melbourne to Cape York and back, 10,000ks, not hiccup, misfire or problem, ran like a dream, so GOAT, YES. as you said, it's been the same design since it was marketed in 1990, so how do you determine if it's the greatest. What other motorcycle is still being manufactured with the same components and only colour and decal changes, probably none. They are easy to maintain, and anyone with the basic mechanical skills can repair and service quite easily. The only other bike that has that sort of history is probably the small dual sports CT90/CT110 postie bikes, which is one of the highest selling motorcycle, funny I wouldn't have thought it as a dual sport bike. As for these two designs, if it's ain't broken, don't f@#k with it.
That's bloody awesome mate, thanks for sharing mate!
And yep, the CT definitely is up there as one of the greatest!
10000km!! That's awesome.
Had a ‘04 DR650, and sold it about 2010. Should have kept it, as it was a damn good bike.
They certainly are!
I have a 2022 DR650. I absolutely love the bike. I will probably never sell it.
You sound like my dad haha!
all I did to max the brakes performance was EBC *sintered* pads, but you could also double the precision by adding a radial brake lever if you want.. the sintered pads changed A LOT for me 🎉
Thanks, I’ll let dad know when he changes them! 👍
@@AusMoto I have no idea what brands you can get there, but I promise it might worth a little internet homework, and even calling\messaging some people(hopefully pro's)
much luck
ride smart & safe 💪🏽
Very true, I did the same exact brakes on my Honda because of the lack of braking from the factory. Highly recommend EBC.
I've had 3. 2 klrs, which I was much less impressed by..no zip. The dr650 has nice torque and is fairly light. Very versatile.
It sure is, such a good overall bike!
Considering a super clean 09 dr650.... watching tons of vids on it, getting hooked on it.
They're a mint bike!
I regret selling mine, but just putting it on paper the 400 seems to be the better bike all round. In saying that once the right bike presents itself on market place I’ll be buying it wether it’s a 650 or 400
I reckon you can’t go wrong with either 👍
love my 400 sm 😍
I have both the 400 and the 650. The DR650 hands down. More torque, smoother ride. Love the no radiator. Super predictable off road.
the 400 is awesome. it is lighter, quicker (with SM setup anyhow), and has near as much grunt however, and this is a big however, if you ever touch a high speed highway the DR will immediately show you why it exists. The 400 is fine to 55-60, but that aint gonna cut it when traffic is 75-80. Even my DR starts winding out, but not near as bad as the DRZ and its got substantially less vibration.
Nice, clean 2018 DR650 w/ 5k miles near me for $6k with a boatload of goodies. I am on the fence but so close to pulling the trigger this weekend.
Sounds like a pretty good deal but not sure what the market is like in your area. Go check it out though 👍
Cool Video, they are great bikes. Two Aussies (North and Left a Bit) went across southern and Central Asia on their DR650's. I ride a DR200 which has a real farm bike vibe and is a mini-650, identical in many features such as oil cooling and electrics.
It's all about luggability, there are plenty of times when you only riding at 30kph on dirt but you need all the torque. The 650 is perfect for this. It's a pity the 650 doesn't have a kick starter, I've often needed to us mine, the small battery is a weak point.
Yes I've watched all of their videos and what a great example of these great bikes!
I'd love to give a DR200 a shot one day, look like a super fun and reliable bike!
I’ve decided that I’m buying a DR650 as my retirement (from both work and racing) bike. I was planning on an adventure bike but I want something similar can fix on the road or trail, simple, cost effective and stone reliable. I might not go far and fast but for my needs I believe it’s the perfect do it all bike.
It really is a do it all!
I have a 2008, some minor mods to carbie, to was lean on highway and part throttle. Up 3 teeth on back sprocket, gearing was not quiet right for 60, 80,100kph.
Nice!
Definitely the GOAT.
My 2014 has been used as a courier bike in Melbourne for 6 years, ridden around the Vic high country roads and tracks and toured around Europe.
My 2005 was a courier bike for 9 years and done a few trip around Victoria on the dirt and still running 18 years later, both bikes bought new for $8000.
2005= 505,000 klms
2014= 330,000 Klm’s
Try that with a modern bike.
That is absolutely incredible mate!!
I bought a brand new DR650 two weeks ago here in Colorado. I've owned plenty of bikes over the years. The DR is a fun bike. I haven't had the chance to take it on trails yet, but I can't wait to see how it does there. I'm waiting for my Plex Valves and the Seat Concepts seat. It would be such a shame if they'd have to stop producing this motorcycle in this form to comply with regulations. It would go the way the KLR is going, getting heavier and less dirt capable. May the story of the DR go on for ever.
It really is a shame but how exciting that you’ve got one!
Got mine this year, 2023. Ride two up on the highway 110kmh. putt around on the trails. gravel roads, Bomb around the city on the weekends sightseeing. sometimes at night. all two up. cranked the rear spring up a bit. set compression to hard and put on a seat concepts seat. And left it stock. Calling it a day with wondering about other bikes I think, I want a sport bike but, ha... I dunno after having this thing lug us around. its to simple and satisfying. a pure legendary bike indeed. I ride in Alberta canada.
That’s awesome mate!
I’m also thinking about a sports bike as well 🤣😂
you and I both know it has to be a Hayabusa or nothing though right?@@AusMoto
@@High_Octane a Busa would be pretty awesome 🤙
I live in México and just bought a 2023, simply love it! ❤❤
Nice!!
Rode a 98 model DR around British Columbia. Did china head trail .Alexandra Mackenzie trail . Stayed with ranchers in that area. Great times then down through USA including the origin coast back country mainly forest. Shipped it Victoria Aust. Did the high country on a organise ride by the late Tony Kirby . Twenty five thousand tuff kms. Not one issue. Didn’t realise I was riding a leg and at the time, but we got a lot of riders attention.👍
That’s bloody awesome!
Rare as hen’s teeth here in the UK where they never really took off. Over here, legendary status belongs to the Suzuki DL650 Vstrom , possibly the most comfortable and reliable all round bike ever made. Not really designed for off roading which is where the DR650 scores.
Yeah, the 650 is a great bike, I had the 1000 and bloody loved it!
No need to rehash the obvious: the DR is the GOAT of all cheap, go anywhere, reliable motorcycles.
Yep!
They are not cheap. Here in the USA, they cost close to $7,000. Not counting dealer fees and taxes.
Hi friend, do you know if your dad removed the chain roller that people say can break off by the chain having to much slack.
Thank you
I don’t believe he has
Thank you
If I knew Dad loved it that much I would have asked more when I sold it to him
Hahaha, hopefully whatever bike you're on now is treating you well!
@@AusMoto on a KTM690 love it
DR650 + few mods= GOAT single track ICE powered machine !
👍🤙
Same design since 1996. I had one and put over 55,000 miles on it before selling it. My big thumper has been a KTM690 since 2016. Still miss the DR but I do like the power and suspension of the 690. With the DR you don’t need ABS it won’t lock up the front wheel unless you really crush it.
That’s incredible mate, the 690 is definitely a better overall bike but the DR is just incredible for what it is.
DR650: Heavy for a dual sport, light for an adv. Epitome of “Is it too much to ask for both?” (Plus how many bikes have fan films dedicated to them)
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Having owned a DR and now a '23 KLR, I have to mostly agree. In the 'real' world, the KLR is much better on road where both bikes actually ride. The KLR is smoother, more comfortable, more stable, faster, better fuel range, etc.
That said, the DR is without a doubt the one you want when SHTF: carb, screw-type valve adjustment...just simple as an anvil.
Either way you can't go wrong.
Both great bikes!
Faster.. HA! thanks for the laugh.
Definitely great adv machines. Nothing is perfect but they're pretty damn close - once you sort out suspension, seat, and a few other things😎👍
100% mate! 🤙
The DR650 is a Dual Sport not an ADV bike. There is a difference.
@@jonwoodworkerno. As long as you can put luggage and go on and off road you have your adv bike
It's a great compromise and a perfect base for mods. Mine has WP forks, Brembo saddle in front, Öhlins in the rear, so it's pretty good for my unpaved-road needs and with proper 2ndary gearing I can do 800 miles in three days without pain. The worst feature is the fuel consumption.
Wow, some nice mods on yours!
@@AusMoto Yep. Thanks to the previous owner, who's a committed dirt rider. He got a 690R after he sold me the DR.
Unfortunately we didn't get this bike in The Netherlands, but i'd love to have one.
Only thing i think it needs is a kickstarter.
When you're in the middle of nowhere with a dead battery, bike full of luggage and tough terrain, you're gonna have a very tough time getting it started.
Ah, that's a shame!
Yes, that sucks that it doesn't, however given it's carby, unlikely that you'll be unable to push start it if required.
There's actually a plug for one, I've thought about getting one..
No kicker but you can bump start the bike. I had to once while running full heated gear. I stopped for gas and my gear used all my recharging wattage plus some of the battery so it wouldn’t crank. Cranked right up when I pushed started it. The bad thing is I had to ride home without heated gear and it had dropped to 27F.
I have three bikes including the DR650. The DR is irreplaceable new. It will do anything that I will ever want to do. Simple and bullet proof.
It's an amazing bike, that's for sure!
Awesome video! Subscribed.
Thanks heaps, glad you enjoyed it!
Just got a 224 drz 650 as my first bike I love it ❤😂
Lucky you!
Suzuki all the way. Had and have Suzuki motorcycles 4wds cars and outboards.Bought my first Suzuki over 40 years ago.
They know how to make good products, that’s for sure!
Thinking about getting a 1996 with 42000 km on the dash, seems pretty well taken care of
As long as it's in decent condition, you can't go wrong I reckon!
@@AusMoto Unfortunately here in Brazil we had this motorcycle only until 2002. Emission laws here are super strict.
Nice. Toyed with gettin one of these to do adv,.camp bike trips. Already have an xr650r tho, plated so no real need except e start. Basic bike = more "uptime" to use a computer term, ready to go.
XR650r is a legendary bike too, shame they don’t sell them anymore though!
Exactly, less downtime is why we love the basic bikes!
Mine was the worst bike I ever had. Sidestand lugs had to be hammered back straight frequently as they'd bend under the bike's weight, had a sudden and catastrophic oil leak from the cam chain tensioner that dumped almost all it's oil in a very short ride, nothing was lubed from the factory or dealer, the seat would cause pain after just a few kms, etc...
Great bike if you spend as much as the purchase price on mods.
Wow that’s a shame mate!
I do believe you're correct concerning this bike & it's little brother the DRz400..... both are impressive for longevity & I've
just looked up the local dealers which has the Drz400 at a higher price than the 650.... go figure? But I'd probably look
around for a good used bike? Who knows, I'm trying to get the heads up on 400's & I saw you so I think I like this bike
more than the DRz400. Both have the same reliability.... ride on
5 speeds huh, ohh yeah & that's one drawback to the DRz400 on the highway, w/ only 5 speeds running at the
70-75mph speed limits you're up in the rpm range making it somewhat shaky/sketchy. Gets worse in high wind
conditions so you've almost sold me on this bike for a Dual Sport. peace
Yep, both great bikes!
good looking bike, what seat does it have on it ?
Thanks, I believe it is a Procycle seat.
Good bikes, great adv bikes. Like all bikes, definitely killable. OEM suspension is rubbish, but upgraded, it's quite good. My son hated mine because it was old fashioned and agricultural, I saw that a feature. All day loaded touring at 100km/h on road or dirt was easy. Owners can be cultish...
GOAT? Unicorn? Nope, not for me, but certainly for many. Best value? Definitely. You got a hell of a lot of bike for not much money. Newer bikes are objectively better, but the DR will always have a space in my heart.
Great summary!
great reveiw mate thanks.
Thanks heaps mate!
I don't know what's happening with your front brakes but mine it's 2- fingers braking all day long
Hmm not sure
would you test the old african twin?
If I could get my hands on one, for sure!
Loved my DR and if it wasnt for health reasons i would still have it 😁👍 the second best bike would be the one i have now DRZ400e 😉🍺
Suzuki just know how to make bloody awesome bikes!
The 400 models I like better than the 650. But definitely great bikes both of them have their own place
@@l337l0ganwhy
I had one & it was good but not great , the fact that Suzuki didn’t want to spend money over the years with basic upgrades does not make them great.
Good all rounder at the price point
@@AusMoto absolutely , but it’s a good all rounder , but the greatest ? .. if not I don’t know what is the greatest , maybe a Z1 maybe a Bonnie , a Honda-4 maybe a 800GS , it’s up there for sure .. a XT500 won the first two Dakar’s but didn’t hang around in it’s original state , it morphed into water cooling & injection where the DR did not but does make it great ? Just because Suzuki thought let’s not mess with it because it’s still selling … it’s probably too subjective , but maybe
Were is the off road segment?
I’ll have to get out on the dirt on it one day
Holy sheet man Big Lez put on some brawn! 😂😂 shout out to your pops man
Hahaha cheers!
Hello from Germany!
At the time I own three DR 650 SP46. One in showroom condition, one as daily driver and cross country enduro bike...and...well one dissmantled because of the famous 3rd gear issue.
Before those three, I had two more...one is in use by my son...the other sold to a friend. All togehter in my enviroment of friends, there are about 10 machines.
So...no doubts about the DR 650 SP 46 beeing a great bike.
But the geatest of all time?
Well there is the issue with the 3rd gear already mentioned...happens to the majority of the DRs here...fixing it is a financial desaster...or...a complete overhaul, if you can do yourself.
Then always the fixing screws of the neutral switch get lose and may cause sever engine damage if you do not fix this
The bearing of the wheels are bad, they wear ou very fast...same ist the steerring head beering.
The read shock is also far too soft, the adjustment screw in the damper has no effect...you cannot change the spring precharge withaot taking the shock out.
So ....well the best bike....no...unfortunately not.
I also own some KLR 650 from the late 80th...well....problem like this are unknown....90.000 km...first engine, never open, original bearings.
Wow, you certainly are a dr650 expert!
Thank you for sharing your experiences with the beast 👍
You can Mad Max all over Australia with the DR650! Awesome bike.
It sure is!
Does vibrate compare with a klr 650? (Kawasaki doesn't)
It actually doesn’t vibrate as much as other dual sports I’ve ridden
Was that a GS500F I saw?
It sure is, that is dads daily rider!
Back in 1989 I had a Yamaha XT600 that I drove from SoCal down the Baja peninsula. With a tent, sleeping bag, gallon of water, and two-piece fishing rod. Talk about fun! It was a simple dual sport bike and I miss it, because of the simplicity. Compared with modern bikes it was crap. Really makes me want a more modern equivalent like the DR.
That’s awesome mate
I had a DR 650 for a long time. Very fun bike. And yes it will do a little bit of everything OK.I moved to the beach and tried to take that heavy bike in the sand with knobby tires.I only did that twice. Got rid of it got a Purpose built dirtbike and a purpose built street bike. But if I can only have one bike and it had to last forever, I think it would probably be the DR 650. However, there is nothing like a two-stroke in the sand. And there’s nothing like 100 hp plus Street bike impossible to make both into one bike at this time. Yesterday I looked at a Tiger 1200 and I stood there laughing beside it. The salesman said why are you laughing and I said because people watch the commercials for these things, and think they can take a 500 pound motorcycle in the sand. What a complete joke. I wouldn’t take the damn thing down a gravel road. But that’s why they make a lot of different bikes for a lot of different people that have a Lotta different needs. The bottom line is ride hard and keep the shiny side up.
Agreed, you can always get a bike specific for the riding or you can go a dual sport which is about compromising, but lets you do the most amount of different types of riding
No one needs a sixth gear on the Doctor.
The King is dead, Long live the King.
Long live the king!! 👑
Do you think this bike would be good for a beginner, someone who really wants to get into adventure riding?
100% it would be - it’s shorter then other adventure bikes and is very versatile 👍
I had a DR for many years. Master of nothing but capable of almost everything. Reliable, heavy, terrible suspension and brakes, enough power, and lots of after market fit out if you are the sort of character that is happy to ride past the local cafe and get dirty
Hit the nail on the head!
I have one. For sure it is one of the greatest motorcycles but the seat is abysmally bad. Who designed and approved the mass production of that year after year.
I can’t comment on the stock seat as I haven’t tried it but I’d imagine it would suck just as much as all the other dual sports. I’ve never ridden one with a good stock seat and I’ve pretty much ridden every dual sport there is haha
Mate your dad's spot on the money , without a shadow of a doubt the greatest motorbike of all time . Mind you I'm biased 😉 . Cheers
Haha thanks Will, I don’t even own the bike and I agree that it is the GOAT! 😉
I think the little baby brother 400 takes the win in my eyes but the 650 definitely is a good value reliable bike. 👍🏼
Can’t argue with that, the things you’ve done with the 400 is incredible mate 🤙
Lol, nope…..😂
Yo your dad is a swole tank - I trust him on that alone
Haha I'll show him this comment
First off, yeah you better do what pops tells ya, he's a big ol boy😳. Second, dang that thing looks like it pulls pretty hard. While I do agree it is the best all around bike and some mods will fix the shortcomings of the suspension and whatnot, I think the T7 will soon take it's place, but I'm a bit biased towards the T7 now😜. I am really partial to fuel injection but, you do have a point about fueling issues. If there were any problems you could limp it to a repair shop, or fix it yourself, where fuel injection issues will leave you calling a tow truck.
Yep, I agree that overall the T7 is a better bike, yet to see if its legacy holds up to that of the mighty DR 😜
Ive got a 1986 DR600 its a tough bike and a joy to ride 😊
Nice!!
I will always own a DR. I probably won't own any other bike. I love it
You can’t go wrong with it!
Great bike! In the same category is the Honda XR650L.
I wish they sold these here in AUS!
Is your Dad Mel Gibson’s twin mate?
😂😂
😂🤣😂🤣
You have some good points
Thanks Alex
So to say that, you must have rode a hundred bikes? Go ahead with a old carb. Bike kick only start or electric tip it over then pick it up and start it, probably flooded. Drop fuel injection bike upside-down and they start right away, one example but if your low on $$$$ DR or XL your self
True!
I concur. Great bike. I think it only needs fuel injection, a taller 5th gear or even a 6th and a higher output alternator.
All the rest of the minor deficencies are easily fixed by a DIY capable wrencher.
Yep, it would be everyone's unicorn bike if Suzuki did that!
And what happens when your electric fuel pump or injectors or injector wiring fail on you 200 miles out in the bush? You're gonna wish you had a carburetor when that occurs, and sooner or later it will occur.
IMO. Yes. It’s one of 2 bikes that has not been changed in over 20 + years. No other model even comes close. This & the drz 400. Are 2 of the most durable & reliable bikes ever mass produced. Mods are just about endless. Just a shame they don’t make them anymore!
Yeah it’s a shame, they actually still do manufacture and sell them in other countries like the US though
Definitely 😁 Your dad has great taste in bikes 😎
He does haha, I’ll have to showcase some of the others he’s got 😂
...I forgot the startermotor...they all fail and the bearings need to be changed...if you look at it right at the beginning of it screaming, you can save it just cleaning it and by greasing the bearings
Thanks for the info, I’ll let my father know
Lol I also went to AMX today to pick up something for Father’s Day today 😂
😂😂😂
I will get one pretty soon
You will love it!
Nice clean 650 👌
Thanks mate, I’ll let dad know 🤙
Solidly in the top 200 motorcycles ever made.
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At least in the top 1 million bikes ever made
I’m convinced!
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I’m gonna buy a 2024 model 650 as well as a klr 650 2024. Klr will be for long distance travel. Dr will be for when I’m feeling frisky 😎
Both awesome bikes!
sorry, i prefer something with EFI. I ride til winter, when temperatures can be -5C to 0C, i like easy starting and go. I don't want to deal of flooded engine or long warmup. If only yamaha make a WR400R or honda XR400L and get it close to 300 lbs
Yeah, a new bike from one of the manufacturers would be amazing
Pound for pound,,, dollar for dollar the dr is unbeatable.
Agreed!
Does the DR also need some “doo-hickey” tweaks like the KLR?
Nope, just the nsu fix for pre-2015 models
Tuff call. Agree its awesome...but i lean more towards its younger brother. 53,000 miles and runs better than new. Best bike i have owned in 35 years. Zero issues in 53,000 miles...well zero issues that werent easily, cheaply and quick fix. Only left me stranded 1 time, bad battery...two cells damaged so only put out 10v. Other than that, which was only a 3 month old battery, which is bizzar, cause i replaced it with a 3 year old battery i had laying around, and that was at the begining of the summer.
I reckon you can't go wrong with either but that's bloody incredible mate, thanks for sharing!
What's the younger brother?
DRZ400@@equalizer4633
@@equalizer4633 the DRZ400. Bout the same power, water cooled but lighter. Not as much torque as the DR650. But just as reliable.
Without a doubt, the GOAT.
It’s certainly got a strong case for it!
It’s hard to beat the Honda XR650L. I’d say they are about tied and beat out the KLR simply due to reliability. The greatest bike ever though is going to be the Honda Trail/Hunter Cub series.
How can you not vote for the Postie Bike?
Unfortunately we don’t get the 650L here in Aus 😞
A lot of people have mentioned the cub, maybe it is the goat!
A big advantage of the 650 is you can make it whatever you want
Exactly!
Love my dr. Others will come and go but this one is staying
They’re just too good
I bet some braided steel brake lines would give you better braking.
Yeah might have to upgrade