So I Watched My Adventures with Superman
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- Today, we're diving into the animated world of Metropolis by going over my first impressions of "My Adventures with Superman."
Of course, as with any new show, my initial skepticism was guaranteed. Superman has been done and redone time and again...usually by edgy boys and therefore - usually badly. I thought this was yet going to be another tired iteration. In this video, I explore my first impressions - impressions that didn't quite meet my initial expectations.
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You’re right, Lois is written exceptionally well on the first couple episodes. Unfortunately I can’t say the same for the show at large. Most of the episodes feel a little lazy to me. They stumble onto the plot more often than not rather than doing any clever investigating. And I can’t forgive what they keep doing to the villains redesigning them into irreconcilably. Also Lois doesn’t seem to actually know what a reporter really does, she seems to have a child’s idea of reporting.
If lois wasn't a hypocrite when it came to lying then this show would basically be perfect. It's rather strange that the show tries to push Clark to tell his personal and life changing secrets to people who he barley knows just because they are friends or "best friends", like they have a right know. Its one thing to tell your wife and best friends of MANY years secrets but to people he hasn't known long is just crazy. People have boundaries and you should respect them.
Gotta call you out on the 'Superman Growing Into His Powers' that's one of the actual problems of the show. It has a 10 year time jump AFTER he discovers he has powers and yet, has ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL OVER THEM. He's an adult and he still breaks things. He has no idea that he's super tough (Despite having been able to stop a car at 10 or 11). And his parents not know about his powers? Kids aren't THAT cunning. So no, that's not Superman. Also, Superman does not 'power up' due to emotional stress. That's an anime trope that doesn't fit.
This show is in a weird place for me. On one hand I can't really stand it because of what you called the "shadow of the woke" hanging over it and all the changes it made to characters I have REALLY liked since I was a little kid and grew up watching. On the other hand, it does just good enough a job at its story telling that I can see why other people like it. Compared to Superman the Animated series or the DCAU its utter trash but its just good enough that when its compared to the utter trash that's on the market these days it actually seems damn good in comparison.
Lois: "How did you know you were bulletproof?
Clark: "I didn't I just knew you weren't."
After this exchange I was absolutely sold.
That sounds precious I'm going to watch this after work.
I am absolutely astonished that such heroism could be portrayed by this show.
If that line doesn't say "I love you", I don't know what does
@@gottesurteil3201it’s a good show it’s a good Lois and Clark. Lois isn’t perfect but she’s willing to admit her mistakes Clark has spent so long as an outsider he has trouble opening up, relying on others, or reading people. Theirs one scene where Lois does unfairly get angry with clark about secrets. The catch is the entire episode had been building up to that and showing a bit of Lois past and how her dad lied to her growing up about her moms health even though she could see something was wrong so when the inevitible happened it was pretty traumatic for her. So when clack does a similar thing lying to her face about his injures even though she’s worried about him and trying to make sure he’s ok well she blows. The show shows that while yeah she’s unjustly pissed at clark which they do address the next episode, anyways while shes pissed at Clarck it’s more for the reason that he’s doing something similar to what her dad did to her with her mom, not so much the fact Clark had a secret just how he was blatantly lying to her face while she’s worried about him like her dad did. This episode honestly sold me because neither of them are perfect Clark being the lovable but awkward guy he is just doesent quite get it while Lois is wrong for being angry with clack about this. Plus unlike others shows that drag this out they resolve it the next episode.
The best part is that that line comes at the lowest point in their relationship. This is Clark when he's as close as he can be to hating Lois, literally taking a bullet for her.
I really hate the modern perception that Superman is boring. He really isn't. He's a chill, caring person with layers and humanity. He loves his home, and he's a hero because he wants to use his powers to help others. He's not perfect either; he makes mistakes and is called out on them by members of the Justice League. But he always strives to give people hope and encourages them to be better. Superman vs. The Elite really highlights the difference between Superman and morally gray heroes who do things like kill the bad guys, and why we don't want Superman to be so morally gray. He's set the standard for all other heroes and inspired them.
It's the Grimdark is cool mentality. The thing with that mentality is that they only like the surface level crap in those kinds of stories (the good guys can LOSE, corruption and depravity EVERYWHERE, sex drugs and my terrible taste in music are the NORM, everyone is an asshole LIKE ME). They don't actually consider how thin a line it has walk or WHY those stories work in the first place.
@@nooneofimportance2110 absolutely. I like having the protagonists be able to lose, but that's more because I like heroes with accountability. I also like big scary monsters, but that's more because i just think aliens and fantasy monsters look cool and would have a unique perspective.
@@derpfluidvariant0916 What you're describing is fine, that's normal story telling. That's GOOD story telling in most cases.
@@nooneofimportance2110 oh. Nice. Thanks dude 👍
@@derpfluidvariant0916 Well, a GOOD story has protagonists that are accountable for their actions. And everyone likes scary monsters.
It's when a writer makes characters with no accountability, or even worse, with no likeability, that you get garbage stories. If I don't even like the "hero" why should I care about his struggles? If he isn't held accountable for his actions (even if it's only to himself) why am I supposed to care whether he succeeds or not?
It's why I hate stories like Secret Empire, ASBAR, MoS, SAO, but still give props to stories like The Witcher, GoT, Shield Hero and other stories of that ilk. The first group uses the surface level crap to sound like good stories, while the latter group, while still grim, actually ARE good stories for the most part.
There is a meme out there about RPG games where you can do whatever you wish and someone questions why someone would pick the supposedly boring good path. The response is that their power fantasy is being able to help everyone. We need more writers with that mindset.
Very much related as that reminds me of The Gamer's The Dorkness Rising. I do fall into this category generally, I am even playing a character right now, who everyone perceives in game as kind of this golden boy. Seemingly perfect who does everything right, but as time has gone on PCs and NPCs have begun to realize what a liar and manipulator my character is. He wants to be a hero, everyone's' hero, and he will twist and change himself however he needs to make it happen. Then when he thinks they don't need him, he moves on.
Very deeply mentally messed up character, and it could have flown under the radar with most GMs, thankfully this group really got it and I am having a blast.
Too many people have an overinflated opinion of their own moral perfection that choosing the evil path is a fantasy for them. A lot are also acting out hidden maliciousness in a place with no real-world consequences.
Playing good characters is a fantasy of mine because... I wish I could truly help people in real life like I can in games. I sadly lack the means to now.
It's kinda sad some people can't comprehend the appeal of being a "good" person. It's like people can't comprehend morals, and kindness, or they assume everyone is secretly as "bad" as they are.
Not saying video games where you get to be "bad," make you a bad person. I'm just saying it's odd to me, people are so cynical now they think good people or characters can't exist without some ulterior or selfish motives.
Sadly even before Rpg's became a thing, people always thought being good had some ulterior motive to it. According to the world, you can't be good unless you have some sinister plot in the works. Which, in their defense, does happen more often than not. The pedophilia scandal in the Catholic churches for example. Preachers spouting rhetoric for money, only to do some dubious ass shit...
Mind you, I am a proud Christian. I still point this out objectively.
It's the way of the world. @@beauwalker9820
Wasn't part of that Snyder quote at the beginning a Manchester Black quote? To which Superman responded something like "I'm glad. Because dreams uplift us, keep us accountable. But your world would be nothing but nightmare."
Superman says, "Good. Dreams save us."
@@grandarkfang_1482"Dreams lift us up and transform us into something better. And on my soul, I swear that until my dream of a world where dignity, honor, and justice are the reality we all share, I will never stop fighting. Ever."
@@Tarnished-Turned-Elden-Lord That's why Superman is Superman, and Manchester was a weak willed loser who offed himself when he lived enough to see himself become a villain and took that option rather then admit his sin and make penance for it.
One of the hardest quotes Superman dropped 🗣🔥
@@Tarnished-Turned-Elden-Lord That was it.
It's so unreal hearing LitDev promoting waifus xDD thanks for the shoutout bud!~
Indeed. Also really cool to see how far the cover design has come from the earlier iterations. Great job!
Unrealistically based
That Segway gave me whiplash
Ironically in a video bashing quasi-anime
There was an Overly Sarcastic Productions video about "Deconstructing Superman" a little while ago which made the point that you can't really subvert Superman, because Superman *IS* the subversion. A man who, when given near limitless power, _does not abuse it_ , that is the real rarity.
Exactly! It's what makes him both special and inspiring.
@@LiteratureDevil The best Superman stories are the ones that focus on moral dilemmas. Those are also the best Star Trek stories too...with the Federation representing an enlightened technological power.
I'd say that the biggest flaw of this show is how everything in this show has to rush into plotlines like the multiverse despite it being the first season. I get that the show was saved from the chopping block but the multiverse is something that shouldn't be rushed into
I think they only glossed over it in that one episode in order to go 'yeah it exists, but whatever."
That and it has been used to set up tension between the characters in the form of Louis having seen other multiverses where Superman has taken a darker path.
Given what the show has done so far this'll likely be used to establish, as LD mentions in the video, the great strength it takes to be the perfect "boy scout" white knight hero.
Honestly the Multiverse is such a mainstream concept now that it really doesn't need any thorough exploration, slowing easing people into the Multiverse nowadays is like showing Bruce's parents getting murdered again, it really doesn't need to be done anymore.
It's only real purpose in this show seems to be to add to the cynicism vs optimism drama and Clarks insecurities of who he is.
The League of Lois will probably be more important later but as it stands now they are a relatively minor force in this show.
They brought up the multiverse but then never went back to that and honestly it works with this show
I hated that episode so much.
Hey everybody! Have you seen Rick & Morty? We have, too! Look! We have our own Council of Ricks! They’re all cynical assholes like in that other show you like!
Yes. I’ve seen Rick & Morty. And I hate it. It’s a gross show that glorifies cynicism. Get it out of my Superman show.
Todd bloody MacFarlane has no right to criticize Superman’s strength and perfection when he ended his original Spawn series by having his titular character throw down with God *_and_* Satan, hold his own, and then let them win because he called them babies.
Pretty sure he was criticizing the “Boy Scout” aspect of Superman. The point he made flew over your head
The problem there is that McDooflan also brought up the question of power levels in his statement, so that's fair game a point to tackle since McDooflan brought it up.
It's like that other comic book author, the one who has this hate-boner for most of marvel, has a hard-on for Punisher but really *really* hates wolverine (and he sometimes writes PUnisher)
@@FriedWyce I don't know if you feel the same way about this. But, over the years I have come to resent that F##ing word, when it comes to Superman. And, I do get why people use that word. But, the word itself does not always mean the same thing to everyone.
I sometimes wonder what would have Todd done had Spawn not taken off like it did. He's latched himself and his identity to that character so hard that I've likened him to a music artist that's only known for being a One Hit Wonder.
It's not fair to Todd considering his history in comics, but that dude needs to stop navel gazing into Spawn and come up for air sometimes.
"You don't make it relevant. You make it inspiring." > this alone will help me on creating my stories and characters
Zach Snyder sounds like Joker, except nowhere near as cool as Joker.
I'd say less like The Joker and more like Manchester Black.
@@sharzinlalebazri5673Manchester Zach
More like a teen-ager discovering dark and edgy and not having the slightest understanding of either. It's probably why his movies looks like teenagers masturbatory power fantasies with the depth of very, very, very shallow pools.
It's funny to see the "evil cannot comprehend good" TVTrope applied to a real person, except Zach isn't evil, just weird. It's sad today people can't comprehend some characters or real people can be good.
Zach Snyder is good at visual storytelling. His Superman movies have many wonderful iconic images of Superman that he's recreated from the sources he drew from. But he doesn't understand Superheroes. Why they exist and why we love them. Because he doesn't understand the motivations of these characters, he bastardizes them. Pouty Superman. Killer Batman. Both heroes have a no-kill policy, for different reasons. Clark doesn't kill because that would be an abuse of his power. It would alienate him from humanity and turn him into Injustice/Homelander, etc. On Batman's side, Bruce doesn't kill because he knows first hand the trauma of losing a loved one. Also because he toes the line so closely, what separates him from his villains is his refusal to kill. Snyder thinks that's dumb. Which is why he should never get another Superhero movie ever again.
I find it funny that people think writing morally gray characters is more sophisticated or complex than writing characters who adhere to a strong moral code.
Moral codes are hard to keep. It's an inherent source of conflict, and conflict is story fuel.
Batman with guns is far less interesting than Batman who doesn't kill.
Couldn't you write a story with morally grey characters that also adhere to moral codes? Why choose one over the other when I can choose both?
@@Orange_Swirl I don’t think we are sharing the same definition of morally gray
@@Orange_Swirl what is your definition of morally grey?
@@Orange_Swirl Yeah. You can. Like a vigilante who will turn a blind eye to any crime, but draws the line at children and drugs. You sell drugs? He kills you. You hurt a kid? He kills you. Literally anything else? You're free to go. It's a strict moral code, but he's also extremely flawed. There are plenty of heroes, villains, and antiheroes with systems like that in place.
So now that I've answered your question, let me ask my own. Why act like it's somehow inferior to have a hero with an even stricter moral code, wherein the conflict comes from the struggle to adhere to it? Aren't I still "choosing both" as you put it? I mean, doesn't the moral grey come from the character doubting their decisions, or being faced with unclear trolly problem like situations where there is no right choice?
I feel like a lot of people don't get that being a good person who does good things isn't easy. It comes with its own struggles, like keeping up an image to uplift others all the while you might be suffering because of something horrible, something sad or because you feel heavily conflicted about a choice you've made or will have to make. And that is something many have to deal with in different fields of work, which is what makes the character's struggle relatable. The context might be fantasy, but that struggle exists everywhere. Despite his powers and alien origins, Superman's still just a normal dude who wants to help.
That's Exactly my point as well.
There is this simple yet beautiful idea that Superman became Superman because of two completely normal people in American Kansas. Which raised and brought him up with good values, and taught him on why those good values are important. And Not just simply saying that its the right to do, but it is sometimes the most needed thing to do.
Not to mention that the temptation to solve problems in more radical ways would always be there and be even worse for Superman because he actually has the ability to bring those thoughts to fruition. I can absolutely see the ruthless calculus of, say, taking out a despot so that the people under their rule could be free and prosper. He could do it, and I hate to admit it, but if I had his abilities I can't say with anything even close to certainty that I could keep it together and not be tempted to abuse them.
I've played with the idea of a Superman-like character who is probably the strongest creature on the planet and wants to do good, but is also very pacifistic out of concern and tries to keep their head as low as a superhero of their magnitude can. Because for instance when they go to an active war zone in another country to help the civilians or wounded involved, they might be considered as an active participate in the conflict, which then causes a stir worldwide of suspicions whether they represent their home country etc.
And of course this would lead to horrible experiences for the MC in Invincible-style.
@@Jelly_Skelly exactly. I do a bit of writing in my free time and one the central themes for two of my characters is having the power to do something about at least some the bad things in the world, where one takes the "radical" solution to deal with it while the other tries not to, and how it ultimately affects both of them privately as well as publicly, so while they're both best friends and practically siblings, one comes to be viewed as one of the mightiest heroes while the other becomes viewed as the worst of monsters, even though they both set out to do the right thing from the start.
Sometimes, looking at the world and all the terrible things in it, its easy to understand McFarlane and characters like Spawn, or the Punisher, or some of the other anti-heroes out there. In a world where there's human trafficking, pedophilic grooming gangs, drug cartels, and the like, its easy to give into the rage and desire for someone to do the most violent, final solutions to the problems rather than just "cart the bad guys who just killed a hundred people off to jail where they're going to get out again."
But maybe at the end of the day that's probably why we need characters like Superman to be well written, so that we can try and find the strength and wisdom to rise above our basest desires and be better than giving in.
These people have no idea that is what Spider-Man is known for. He does good things but boy is it not easy.
I remember watching reactors to My Hero Academia fawn over All Might when the anime first aired years ago, feels like people do want a hero who is a shining light to the world. We just have to give it to them.
All Might has the advantage that he's far more obviously flawed than Superman, and we start seeing those flaws more-or-less from the start.
@@boobah5643But his flaws do reveal that the core of who All Might considers himself to be is someone who does the right thing for the right reasons. Sometimes he just needs someone to remind him that he can go that extra mile.
Exactly what I was thinking
@@boobah5643i dont think u understand superman isnt perfect .he never was in comics either .its just a cliche trope that ppl use to bash him
@@boobah5643Superman flaw is he can’t be everywhere all the time he is only mortal even with his superpowers
In my opinion the reason why some people don't know how to write Superman as a good person is that they themselves do not know what a good person is. They're so full of bitterness and resentment to the world that they think a good person is unrealistic or impossible. To them Superman could never be a good person because he chooses to do the right thing, there has to be some kind of ulterior motive.
Two weeks old comment, but what the hell.
Ironically, that's exactly the point made by a certain person. You probably know who I'm talking about: bald as an egg, filthy rich, no superpowers, the second wrinkliest brain in the entire DC universe...
Yep. It's why one of my favorite moments in Kill Bill is Bill giving his analysis of Superman vs Clark Kent. To Bill, Clark Kent is Superman mocking humanity for all of its faults. It's so wrong and so jaded and cynical that you know it can only come from the mouth of someone who has spent his life killing people for a living. He can't see Superman for who he is, a genuinely good person, because he doesn't believe that there's any such thing as a good person.
As for me, I'll take my big blue boy scout any day over someone like the Punisher or any of the other edge lord anti-heroes who exists only to cause pain. Give me hope any day, I don't care how cheesy it is because, in the end, I feel better when I have hope in my life.
Agreed. Tbh, I feel it's probably the same reason nobody on TV can seem to have a healthy, functional relationship for longer than 3 episodes.
Funnily enough, that’s the same mentality Lex Luthor has. That’s why he’s the villain.
Zach Snyder was 20 years late to that party. By the time his movies hit the screen, the flawed hero trope was already an over used cliché. The whole flawed super hero trope only works as a narrative trope if you have the flawless superhero. In other words, Barman can only be the Dark Knight because Superman is the White Knight. When Snyder made his movies, there were no more flawless heroes. We had 2 types of super heroes, the flawed / fallen heroes and MCU's comedians. The original superheroes, the flawless heroes, had been absent from media for almost a decade.
No he was honestly too early because he's going off of what a lot of modern creators say about Superman to this day if you really think about it because once he introduce a darker realistic take on Superman that's when more creators was like hey we can keep doing this evil Superman stuff more and more so honestly he was early is everyone else that was late but it also shows a fundamental of what people want and expect from Superman because again reading his comic books and even watching Superman animated series he is still not that boy scout that everybody seemed to want him to be or can't seem to let go of the Christopher Reeves version of the character as oh yeah that's Superman No that's not Superman 24/7 and he has grown and he's way more complex than people give them credit for but I think the problem is because we're so used to that one thing that when somebody tries to do something different with Superman when they try to ground him in more reality people freak the hell out and I think that's what it was the audience wasn't ready for that but now the audience is as you can tell people want that storyline that Zack had four Superman to be fully completed to the world of Superman
@@treymykel The darker and more realistic tone on Superman and the whole superhero genre was already done repeatedly in the 90s and in the 2000s. Snyder brought nothing new, he was absolutely late. I mean, The Watchmen comics was released in the late 80s, the movie came out in 2009. The Boys comics are from 2006. Invincible is from 2003. Snyder's Superman would only be released in 2013. Superman have already died in the comics twice or more by then.
What Snyder did was to open way for these gritty stories to be told to a larger audience with HBO's The Boys, and Invincible's animation, by Netflix if I recall correctly.
Bad comparison, because Batman, despite rough exterior and actions, is actually at his core just as much a morally righteous paragon type traditional superhero. Which is why I hate the whole 'ideological differences' thing DC likes to promote, when it's really more of a difference in methodology. At the end of the day though, both really do have more or less the same ideology, just different ways of going about it. Classic good cop and bad cop situation.
@@treymykel umm no dude he was very late, if you actual read comics in 90s this has been done
@@VunderGuy yep this, why i loved dc animated movie with both of them together when Luther became president had them public enemy number one, it showed how similar in morals are, and fact Batman really only friend is superman, just hates to admit, same for superman he doesn't have many friends either, batman is his best friend.
To be fair, Clark Kent isn't usually portrayed as being someone who stands up tall with confidence in everything he does: if anything, he usually plays up the "big softy" act because he genuinely wants to help people and truly wants the world to be a happier more friendly place. Half of his early relationship with Lois is usually spent trying to get her to see past his "Big Softy" exterior without just telling her his secret identity as Superman.
It's only on rare occasions (with events like "Lois repeatedly lying to his face to drag him along on her unauthorized pet project") where Clark Kent shows off his steel spine by standing tall and refusing to budge on his principles.
Right, like a lot of people don't really distinguish how Clark is kinda different from the Superman persona.
Like character wise a lot bash Snyder's take on superman, but Snyder mostly inly tweaked "the Character of Clark", and his Superman is still Superman.
Clark has a different kind of parenting ideology about his powers in snyder's version. Which created his own version of chraracter growth in MoS.
People don't really like how Clark let his Dad die.
But I like the payoff of that better since its more meaningful for Clark to become Superman since he still decided to be superman despite his Dad dying just to tell him he don't need to be that guy.
Him donning the costume has a lot more weight to it.
@@Snzn18lmao .in mos he had no actual character development and that was not superman .superman never was uncharismatic boring god murderer with no character or peronalities
Yeah, Clark being a big softy in this show is being classic Clark. Heck, the reason why mere glasses and loose hairstyle work as disguise is because it's coupled with Clark's (on surface) meek personality. The whole point is that people at his work can't imagine that this soft guy is the gigachad Superman.
@@letsreadtextbook1687 Yeah, Post-Crisis onward began to work the angle that people can't distinguish between the two personas because body language says just that much (which is a bit of truth in fiction); because every little thing being a superpower such as the idea Superman can just hypnotize everyone into not noticing he's Clark was too silly. Putting aside that "Superman" is the costume and that he's at his core "Clark Kent" first: Clark slouches, stumbles over his words, his clothes don't fit him properly, etc. Lex Luthor once built a supercomputer to determine who Superman really was and he refused to accept it spitting out that it was Clark Kent. He insisted it was wrong because he could not fathom somebody of Superman's ability willingly living the meager life of a two-bit reporter, because it's never something he would do.
They had too much gay slick shit on this show they need to stop that shit this is a kids show
Mega Man creator Akira Kitamura hit the nail on the head: The heroes I used to love were always strong figures that you could look up to. They were different from the heroes of today, who are drawn more sympathetically, and who you’re supposed to have something in common with. To me, a hero embodies the “virtue” that we all have in our hearts. We all have it, but most of us are too embarrassed or scared to show it.
In that sense there’s something childlike about heroism. Heroes are the people who are proud to show that side of themselves to others. They have a lonely existence, and they will bear any burden-even when not being watched over by others-simply because it’s the right thing to do. I like heroes with that childlike purity and idealism. Someone who can still believe in what’s right, even when others says “that’s not realistic.” I think when a person encounters a hero like that in art, they can learn a lot from them. That’s the kind of hero I wanted to create in Mega Man.
Maybe this is why I idolized Joanna Dark when I was younger. She's brave, professional, and loyal, things that I always wanted to be. While I'm not sure how brave I am, I would like to think that I'm at least a bit brave, professional in what I do, and loyal to those around me.
Lois Lane and Casca from Berserk look very similar. I just hope that they don't go down that story line.
That's what I said about their resemblance.
no one would be able to look at Jimmy Olsen the same way again
Forget Casca. Lois looks way too much like Luz Noceda from The Owl House.
@@psnfailout000 ...I think I'd rather compare her to Casca from Berserk.
Haha.. please don't
I feel like if Todd Macfarlane’s reasons for disliking superman were more popular than Zac Snyder’s then we’d probably have a lot more well-written, imperfect heroes
Indeed…
Todd has a decent reason for his view, because there are sometimes valid...idk if "criticism" is the right word, but questions about Superman as a hero. Superman works in a clean cut world (partially because he makes it clean cut), but you never see stories about him having to deal with something like the Grooming Gangs in England, where victims are silenced or prosecuted, the perps generally not only get to walk, but have ties to the police and local government and actually receive protection from them, and anyone who tries to deal with them is labeled a racist and attacked both socially and legally. It is, however, the kind of situation you will see guys like Spawn or the Punisher deal with very simply and easily, however.
Superman works to inspire people and make them become better, and he even hopes to do that with criminals. But ultimately what can you do with criminals who don't want to be better, who believe their crimes are justified, and who will do them again as soon as they'll released from prison? Keep trying to redeem them and let them keep hurting people time and again, or put them in the ground and save their potential victims? Superman certainly tends to go for the former, but that's not very satisfying for some people, because the "perfect" solution doesn't feel like a solution at all.
@@luciussvartwulf6630 but that the thing superman faced these question of people very early on
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Superman does deal with these types early on in the Golden Age, I feel like having stuff like this enriches the story but most readers are like, "HUR DURR ME WANT SUPAMAN TO FITE MANSTAS AN SUPAVYLANS" hence the very simplified stories.
@@luciussvartwulf6630 The problem is that Macfarlane, like Miller (Frank) and Snyder, like these edgy anti-heroes because it's kind of a power fantasy come true. If you read their works, their protagonists aren't really heroes, so much as they're assholes that do the right thing coincidently. The "heroes" might realize AFTER the fact that they did something wrong, but rarely even consider it in the moment.
Superman doesn't fit that mold of lazy writing, because he has the power to just end a fight at will in most cases, and if all you're good at is fight scenes that's well ... boring. But look at the Animated series episode "Where There's Smoke", it's more Superman talking and helping rather than him just beating up Volcana. He literally defeated her by ... dun dun duuuuuun ... being a good guy? Dark edgy hero writers can't understand that.
When I was young and edgy, yeah, what Snyder says I could agree with. But now, as a much older, wiser, and mature individual, what I like about Superman is that he is precisely the perfect person. As an individual who understands very well my own struggles and flaws and knows the fight against my inner demons, someone like Superman who doesn’t let himself fall into the darkness is someone I can aspire to. Will I ever be like Superman? No, not ever, but I can use the example of the person who just wants to help, no matter how little, as inspiration.
Yep, and that's why the Donner cut movies are superior.
"They can be a great people, Kal-El, they wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason above all, their capacity for good, I have sent them you... my only son."
- Jor-El - Superman
I don't most critisms to Snyder's superman are mostly oriented to his Early childhood days where basically his father's influence influence his decision and hesitate when he needs to immediately save somebody.
But basically most of that issue becomes gone when he donns the Costume but and Basically he is just Superman at that point.
But yeah people will be only mostly earned eye in the underdeveloped phase of his character.
Superman after that was never really "dark", it's more so that the perspective focuses moreover the world's pov of him which is majorly focusing on the negative views about Jim since that is basically Superman's biggest dillema in that movie.
Basically it's pretty similar to how My adventures with superman is in past few weeks, the difference is the cartoon show has the whole friend group dynamic.
Also it's kinda good thing Snyder's version happens to switch gears on Superman takes that makes a traditional Siperman take feels more refreshing.
Basically that is why Superman Returns fails since people already was satisfied with Reeve's Superman and an almost similar Superman take will just feel redundant and cause burnout.
It's loke yes Base Superman is forever good but consistently taking in the same thing burnout people.
@@Snzn18lol u are 100% wrong .mos is the worst superman movie .u forgot the part where he literally lasered and crashed a huge ship in to middle of the city killing hundreds ?
@@Snzn18 I'm not sure about most people, but I'd say my biggest criticism of the movie is the part where he literally kills all of the babies. It's hard to write that level of evil, but they did it lol.
2:07 I find this to be very interesting, especially in the concept of Superman being a White Knight. Characters like Batman and Spawn are more seen as the Dark or Black Knight due to the methods with which they deal out justice. But what should be important to remember is that they are still Knights - they fight evil on behalf of the weak do their best to see evil defeated. It doesn't matter if their armor shines as white as the morning light or is as dark as the night sky, they fight against evil.
Batman himself also really isn't a dark knight as you've laid out, he's a white knight in dark night's clothing, so comparing him to characters like Spawn or The Punisher or Image Character number 90 billion is kind of missing the point, literally the forest for the trees.
@@VunderGuyYou're right. Many people (me included) latched on to Batman's nickname. The real dark knight in DC would be The Spectre.
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I was pleasantly surprised by how good this show is. The internet bashed it for shallow similarities to other mistakes in media such as Lois getting mad for Clark keeping secrets without realizing that, like you said, and unlike Invincible, this show handled it CORRECTLY. How Jimmy handled it makes him a living call out of Lois. The writers KNOW Lois was unreasonable and so they can write accordingly and it comes out great!
@@stevenedwards8353No, alot of the complaints that even the guy in this video had where shallow and 2 dimensional.
He get why uts a good Superman show and the Snyder Superhero Cynical bashing was right on but He was way too strong on the
"they made Lois lane wrong, and not a mary sue Cause she was wrong to be lois lane and female charcter was actually incorrect and that Put her in her place ... I mean, point out her mistakes ... BECAUSE SHE WAS WRONG."
WOKE = Anything made modern or with diversity, I don't like, understand or want to see.
(It has no true meaning Like SJW)
My dad was actually very concerned for Jimmy's new characterization. He only got to watch episode one (because we don't have HBO max but I had a connection to watch farther) and thankfully, someone posted a snippet of when he let's Clark know he knew. My dad was worried they were going to keep him as boring, joker sidekick with a different coat of paint. To hear him basically say, "Dude, I'm your roommate and I'm not stupid, just respectful" made him happy.
@@EcstaticTeaTime Little of column A, little of column B really; while he looks completely different, the moment he opens his mouth he's unmistakably "Jimmy Olsen: Superman's Pal" and there's so many little fluff details hidden in plain sight that reinforce that, like the Flamebird thing. Little was changed about Jimmy being the goober sidekick but they remembered to expand beyond just that because they've completely reworked his base relationship to Clark by making them longer friends and roommates (compared to Jimmy normally being fairly younger than Clark and in a lower staff position than him) since their schooling days, of course this Jimmy should be able to see through Clark easier, Clark being a bad liar because he's too much of a good noodle already aside. But really, this Jimmy is absolutely what "Jimmy Olsen" is about, he's not an entirely new character with that name just slapped on him- I can absolutely see him being a massive trouble magnet, randomly getting weird superpowers left and right, being turned into a turtle, and dating Silver Banshee
@@WannabeWryterwhen did he say any of this?
To be fair the reason then people were upset was that Lois had short hair and Heat Wave looked like a man.
Many times in the show Superman told people that he just wants to help, and he means it, yet it falls on deaf ears with people too afraid, vengeful or crazy to listen. It's like the writers were aware that writing Superman properly would have an impact.
I think that by writing an arc where Clark earns the love and respect of the common people for just being a goody two shoes, they're hoping to see the same effect in the real world.
@@ClashBluelight
That was always the hope behind the character of Superman.
Remember, he was created by Jewish authors in the 1930s.
Your older longer video on Superman took me from indifferent on the character to curious about him.
Before, I hadn't found him bland because he was a boy scout, but rather because he was ubiquitous. He's so ingrained in culture that I just assumed I'd heard his stories before everywhere else *outside* of Superman. And that there was nothing he could do to entertain or teach. But then I bought All Star Superman, Rebirth, Infinite Crisis, Final Crisis, and watched a lot of the animations after your video.
I grew such an immense love of the character that I feel as though I deprived myself of something fantastic after years of misplaced disinterest. You read a proper Superman comic and you just feel good.
I highly recommend you watching/reading the Superman vs The Elites movie/comic, it's probably the best Superman story ever written.
@@Arandomguy30agree
As a kid, I read "The Death of Superman" storyline, followed by the 4 Supermen. It was the best way to show who Superman is, by contrasting him against pretenders.
@@Arandomguy30 Thank you, King. I'll get on that this week.
@@daserfomalhaut9809animated show by bruce timm is better .
The odd part about comparing this to Invincible, is that *this* Superman's personality is really the one that would be ideal for Mark. The flaws of Invincible are almost entirely with Mark's interactions with the 'normal' world. Nolan is a triumph, his interactions with his son are compelling and interesting. The places the show is weak is the teenage drama, and the fact that Mark really struggles as a character to convince us why his morality is enough to defy his father, even in the face of death. Basically, they did very well writing the world-worn, empty Nolan, he is completely believable, but the show cannot provide the other end of the equation, it cannot provide a good hopeful character who cares for the world in a believable way.
This version of superman...honestly does that.
Considering the amount of thirst I've seen over Tomboy Lois I'd say she isn't that defeminized.
Hell, If you search Lois Lane on Google chances are you are gonna find more nsfw art of tomboy Lois than even dcau Lois.
People love tomboys, including me.
Cute spunky tomboy aside, this show is such a breath of fresh air for Western animation. Not only does it give me the morally just and righteous portrayal of a hero I've been yearning for, but it slips up so little that just about every moment is enjoyable, even the bits that make me cringe a little. It's a kids show, so I don't really expect too much from it, but that said, kids would have been eating *_really_* good if it aired on a regular channel instead of Adult Swim. It looks good, it's got decent (albeit, slightly wonky) writing and it's generally so uplifting and different from what's come out previously that it's on my mind at least once a day. It's perfect (kind of).
This video gave me a new perspective on Superman and made me appreciate him more. It feels like there are no real stakes with someone who is so powerful, but thinking about the hero's struggle to do good in spite of the temptation of power is interesting. I guess I don't know enough about the character since most of my DC content is Batman, Young Justice and Static Shock.
Side note. Batman was offered the Yellow Lantern Ring of Fear. But he reject it. Cause Datman's know what will happen if he got too much power.
@@1968gadgetyoyeah, he never had to live with such power like Clarke to exercise the control and will power for an indefinite period of time. He'd become eiither complacent or worse or at least he believes so.
Even on a surface level powerscaling sense Superman doesn't always beat his enemies, nor is he always the most powerful. See Doomsday.
@@hadouradiance3566 That's not exactly the best example. Saying that one person that can destroy planets or solar systems can lose out to other threats on that same destructive level when the majority of his battles are against people like Lex Luthor isn't going to change most people's minds. If anything, Doomsday only reinfornces Superman's feeling of invincibility. They wrote Doomsday specifically to kill Superman like they added Kryptonite to add a weakness, but it still doesn't fix the problem that most of the time he far outmatches his opponents and outmatches Humans in general.
The tomboy looks thing makes sense if her dad wanted a boy and she sensed it on some level.
I think the tomboy aspect fits with her go-getter reporter spirit. And as they portrayed her bending and disobeying rules to try and get her story, it made her damsel in distress role a lot more believable. She outright says she and Jimmy will go be hostages while Clark runs off to go get help.
I don't think I have seen enough of Sam to determine if he was the kind of father that wanted a boy. I don't even remember if they said when and what happened to her mom. It is clear, though, that he made his priority being ready for round two with the unknown enemy instead of being her dad and it was enough to drive a wedge.
This show is a great example that while clever reinterpretation of a character might be interesting, all an iconic character needs to be to be interesting, is for to be allowed to be themselves
The haircut 😂
The part that sold the show to me was after Klark and Lois had their fight about Klark keeping his identity secret (an argument that was so much better and logical than the Invincible reveal) and Lois accidentally triggered a robot trap. Klark immediately jumped in front of the robotic turret and tanked the lasers being fired at him. When it ran empty, Lois' first concern was if Klark was OK and asked "How did you know you were bullet proof?" keeping in mind Klark was still figuring out his powers.
His response was "I didn't - I just knew you weren't."
*That's* what it means to be a hero - what it means for Superman to be Superman.
Current times make me appreciate superman, a good guy bringing hope to humanity. Inspiring everyone to be better.
That moment where Superman cleaned up the city after his fight with Livewire was a perfect scene.
What People IGNORE (so BLATANTLY) is that Superman could EASILY break his foes...enemies...Bad Guys with a Metaphorical 'flick of his wrist'. But he CHOOSES NOT TO. And that is ALWAYS LOST because he is supposed to be PERFECT. Those Anti-Heroes are PRAISED for 'giving in' to their temptations, emotions and vices. Where as Supes has those SAME TEMPTATIONS, but because he is a 'boy-scout' and chooses not to succumb, he's boring. Really irks me. I have ALWAYS valued the concept that it is the CHOICES we make who determine who we are. And Superman Epitomizes that concept. Appreciate the vid. Supes FOREVER.
One of my favourite parts of the second episode was that after the fight with Livewire, Superman spents about a minute fixing the damage around them as best he could. Superman cares about the collateral. He cares about the street signs and logos. He cares about the people around him that can't defend themselves. That's what makes him a good guy. This directly opposes what we see in other Superman media where he just destroys a city and nobody talks about it. I'm sure on Superman, more than anyone, the deaths of thousands or millions of people would weigh hard on him because he knows there was probably always a better way. The real Superman cares about the damage that comes with fighting villains and takes actions to reduce it as much as possible. It's why I love his character so much. It's great to see an alien does what he can to assimilate into human society but uses all of his skills and abilities to make the world a better place. He can't fix everything but he can definitely handle big threats like supervillains or disasters.
WOO! Finally, a good review! I was pretty sure all the sludge was slowly poisoning LitDev, so it's good to see him enjoy something for once.
this man is acting like Jimmy Olsen had testosterone to begin with
Research. 1x1
He couldn't do any in this video.
NGL, I like these versions of Jimmy and Lois more than any others.
Jimmy feels more like a main character than he ever felt before. He's a good and a very honest man, and someone that can be there for his friends even though they betrayed him at some point.
Lois was raised by her father, which is a military officer, and that's why she's an energetic and ambitious tomboy. Yet, she has a good enough moral compass with some flaws she's willing to overcome, something many female characters in recent years fail to have.
Hearing this makes me think that if this series is part of James Gunn's initiative for the upcoming DCU movieverse, then I can see why people are cautiously optimistic about his plans.
He actually involved in this show .its his secret plan to revive supes to young generation
Wokeness "looming like a rainbow colored eye of Sauron" may be my new favorite thing
Clark Kent is nearly ALWAYS portrayed as soft in public. That isnt a criticism...its a feature. Its how he blends in, stays under the radar, is able to be PART of the human race, not separate from it. Only a few iteriations do it differently.
I think being good guy=boring is such a childish view. Being a good _boy_ is boring because with abundance of authority (parents, teachers, etc) it's easier to become good. But with adulthood you've come to find that keep being as good as you want is difficult, because there's no one protecting us from the uncertainty and inconsistency of what doing good would entail.
Therefore MAWS being also Clark's coming to age story, this being his first job and first time he's being legit superhero, is cool!
Also I don't know why some people got hung up on the transformation scene, it literally never comes up again after ep 2.
"You don't make him relevant. You make him inspiring"
Well, that's the issue. For a lot of people, inspiring characters are not ideals to live up, but expectations to fall short of.
That's the real issue Superman and other paragon-like characters have to deal with: the audience's insecurities.
We used to have real life paragons but most of them are either dead or in a nursing home now.
Reminds me of one of the themes of _Ultima VII._
A focus of the previous three games was the quest for avatarhood, that is, to become the living embodiment of the virtues of the Britannian religion. The thing is, being virtuous is hard (especially when you don't have access to the karma meters that players do) and sometimes contradictory; the obvious example is that you are Valorous for defeating foes, but Compassion demands you allow wounded foes to flee.
So _U7_ rolls around and there's a new religion in Britannia that has sprung up in the centuries the player has been gone and has as a core tenet that the Virtuous Path is just a recipe for failure rather than an ideal to strive for. Back in the 90s when the game came out they explicitly pointed out that this was a religion of evil. (And it wasn't just 'different religion = evil; _U6_ was all about a group of people with a different faith, who followed different virtues, which was just as valid as the Britannian faith.)
@@boobah5643there will never be another video game franchise quite like the Ultima series, and there will never be another video game like Ultima 6.
Although I sure hope I'm wrong.
Cough cough Spiderman cough
How depressing is that on some level? We are praising a cartoon about Superman simply for it 'being about Superman'. We actually have to praise writers for being 'bold enough' to make Superman just a nice guy who wants to help people. I actually had to explain to my GF why I love classic Superman so much and why this show was so wonderful to me.
Remember the same creative team who did this show also did Netflix Voltron...and She-Ra.
Both started strong but ended splitting the fandom down the line. Not to mention the first season has to be good in order to ensure there are future volumes.
Remember these creators still have an agenda up their sleeves and cannot help themselves...Like The Mandalorian they will wait till the have a hit...only to put "The Message" back into the series
Sorry for sounding negative but I am going with a "Trust but verify" approach
Pretty much my stance, and boy howdy did they sour me with how Lois acted when finding out Clark's secret...
What was worse was she Immediately started attacking Jimmy Olsen because he DARED to keep Superman’s Secret and not snitch.
The Fact that she Demands a dude she knew for 3 month tell her his Deepest darkest secret that sits next to his Social Security Number and Paycheck info, and Doesn’t understand Personal Space makes me Gag.
Also The reason the Old Superman Lois Jumping out of a Window works compared to this new one is because Clark goes out of his way to Embarrass Lois as he saves her Without revealing his Secret and then Gaslights the hell out of her into believing he never moved and she’s crazy. Thus Punishing Lois Selfish actions
@coldsnap5742 Probably positively, I mean the very next episode characterizes her as being in the wrong and coming to accept that she overreacted, while showing the correct way to go about it with Jimmy. Since Jimmy figured it out a long time ago, but decided to keep it a secret as well and wait for Clark to tell him when he is ready. Learning this only makes Lois feel even worse about how she reacted, and this even is built upon when she later on discovers a file about alt universe supermen that are evil and decides to trust Clark and not push this secret out, so she learns from her mistakes. So far, they are being very mature about these things, which is still shocking me.
I mean they already race swapped and sexuality swapped established characters so I think it’s safe to say it will be crap.
@coldsnap5742 perhaps him discovering Clark was a super powered alien was what got him into all those conspiracies in the first place?
I always think of "Whatever happened to the Man of Tomorrow" when it comes about driving Superman over to the edge. And after what were the worst days of his life he is forced to kill but even if it was for the survival of everyone, he knows he shouldn't be excused for it. Superman ends himself for having broken his vow. He doesn't go "Haha, I am now going to rule the world." He held himself to the highest standards possible and when he failed he erased Superman from the world. I like that story so much that I consider it the canon ending for Superman if for some reason the comics ended.
Given that it’s the same people who wrote both Voltron and the She-Ra reboot I recommend keeping your guard up till the end, they both started alright with potential but then went off a cliff halfway through especially the latter with the “Catdora” nonsense in She-Ra.
Liking the art style has been such a chore. I know now what true cope feels like.
Well I like both this and the She-Ra reboot and I don't care what anybody says I'm all in for catdora it may have some issues but I still enjoyed it
@@animezilla4486I thought Catradora was as obvious as Kataang from Avatar or Jake and Rose from American Dragon
She-ra never “went off the cliff,” don’t know what the hell you’re on about.
What happened to Voltron was sad. It was speculated that the Shiro freakout parts were really written with Keith in mind as he struggled in the leadership position instead of going off to form a bond with his mom; wish he could have had both. And I didn't have a problem with Shiro having a boyfriend because when it first appeared, it didn't take away from or become his character until they killed said boyfriend almost immediately after they had an ultimatum and he was introduced to us, the audience.
Even the thing between Keith and Lance could have been left in speculation until the end but they made Lance the rebound guy for Alura after Lotor. After she had been denying him from the beginning and he kind of stopped flirting with her. They should have kept romantic relationships out of it after Shiro. And as someone put in their video review, the lesbians really did save the last season. I didn't really give a crap about the main characters anymore from the first few episodes of the last season and didn't watch the last episode.
As of now, I haven't given She-Ra a chance because of it (and Legend of Korra as I didn’t like where season 2 began to go and stopped.) The internet is mixed and I don't have much time to delve into a series where I might only like one character in it. This studio is great and I plan on giving all their properties a chance at some point. But I was hooked on Superman when they still had the full first episode for free on here. I'm really rooting for it.
I thought the villains were the biggest problem I had with this show, but then I saw the last episode, how Task Force X got the alien tech, and that was my biggest problem with the show.
That said, I definitely agree with your analysis. Lois Lane was Lois Lane, not a Mary Sue, and Superman was Superman, not some depressed imitation.
What is you issue with the last episode? Kryptonians attacking isn't too out there, especially if it was Zod doing it.
Lois wasn’t a tomboy, I like tomboys but she was a very feminine character. It is true that she isn’t a Mary sue, but doesn’t seem like a Lois lane.
@@GBDupreeit's not kryptonians it's f*cking brainiac, which why would you blow your wad with brainiac first season
@@GBDupree If Kryptonians attacked Earth before there were superheroes, humans would be helpless to defend it due to the powers that Kryptonians gain under a yellow Sun. In fact, if most aliens in the DCU were to invade before there were superheroes, humans would be unable to defend. That's what I have a problem with, not the concept of the attack itself. Why did they just destroy one military base and seemingly stop there if there were no superheroes to defend Earth? And if there were superheroes to fend off the attack, why weren't they shown?
What's your issue with how Task Force X got their Kryptonian tech?
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What's even more ironic about that claptrap is that Spawn himself has actually achieved IMMENSE power keep, eventually winding up at Universal or Multiversal or above levels of power that makes juggling planets on your finger literally look like a subatomic particle juggling an iron atom on its finger.
The turning point for me of the show. Was when Superman cleaned up the mess him and Livewire made. That was my Superman fixing up what he did and not destroying an entire city to battle Zod.
I'm glad to hear that there are still people who know who Superman is. It's easy to forget the power of a genuinely good person... until you don't have them anymore.
You had me in the first part and then you immediately lost me by saying lois was defeminized just for having short hair. Say sike right now. I legit cant tell if youre joking or not.
Edit: it got worse.
You can say this loud. This guy has to many problems.
And he is lazy as Fuck.
its fitting that someone who seems so against women looking anything slightly outside of the beauty standard would be advertising waifu books and unironically saying "best girl"
Yeah, most of the video gives off the vibe that he has a very narrow view of masculinity and femininity and that if something doesn't fit into that box, its somehow worse. My problem with most "anti-woke" content creators is that they insist on viewing media through some arbitrary check list, and that makes their analysis less interesting. Like, it doesn't matter if something is woke or not. That's not the deciding factor of whether or not something is good. Its the writing and how well the writers deliver what they want to get across.
Yeah Clark's portrayal is one of the biggest strengths of the show, despite his weak points(The villains are probably my biggest gripe).
It is refreshing to see a show not being afraid or ashamed of showcasing how Superman really is and doesn't need to be turned into an edgelord to be a great character
The villains definitely fall flat in character and design
What I hate is she Immediately started attacking Jimmy Olsen because he DARED to keep Superman’s Secret and not snitch.
The Fact that she Demands a dude she knew for 3 month tell her his Deepest darkest secret that sits next to his Social Security Number and Paycheck info, and Doesn’t understand Personal Space makes me Gag.
Also The reason the Old Superman Lois Jumping out of a Window works compared to this new one is because Clark goes out of his way to Embarrass Lois as he saves her Without revealing his Secret and then Gaslights the hell out of her into believing he never moved and she’s crazy. Thus Punishing Lois Selfish actions
You hate that she's a consistent character with realistic flaws? Lois has been constantly characterized as passionate, implusive and reckless.
She has specific issues with people keeping secret from her, and you're surprised that her first reaction is that she's angry/annoyed that out of the trio, she was the only one kept in the dark?
Also, like. She was angry with Jimmy for one or two scenes at most. It didn't even last an entire episode.
Being righteous is hardly boring, especially if you explore the inner turmoil of keeping up such appearances and trying to really walk the walk. Being truly righteous, is considered impossible by those with low morale standards. So it's really not by accident that modern Hollywood writers think like this. Don't blame them, it was their environment. Decades of moral indignities and no justice.
Todd McFarlane calling Superman OP is funny as hell when spawn literally killed God. Like thats not absolutely broken 💀
That quote by Zack Snyder is stupid. Saying that people are living in a dream world for wanting heroes who do not kill or steal is the dumbest thing to say because these heroes that he’s talking about aren’t real. They exist in a escapism fantasy and not the real world. This is why Zack fails at creating superheroes because he doesn’t understand what a hero is
I think there's a good reason people like Lois in this show. And no, being a hot tomboy helps, but it's not enough to get genuine love. She'd be a fad if she was just a tomboy, but positive reception and retention says there's more to her than that.
I dunno, I see plenty of characters whose popularity hasn’t yet waned even though their only selling point is being hot.
Still, the way the relationship between her and Clark is written is very endearing for both characters. In this case, it’s more
Its just shes very lovable
I like this show because they understand the Superman mythos so completely, so thoroughly that they’ve been able to both subvert and keep true to it at the same time. These are the stories of Clark, Lois and Jimmy if they had met about 5 years before they met in the comics or any other movie about him. Clark/Superman proved the core truth: He does good because he wants to, not because he can and has the power to do so without harm. Lois is the headstrong young woman we’ve always known. Her instincts are there, she lacks the experience. Better still, she actually discovers the link beyond Clark and Superman pretty much on her own. And Jimmy…oh, Jimmy. We get the same means well slightly foolish (okay, very foolish) goody sidekick. But he’s fleshed out. When Clark begins to show more interest in Lois, he feels left out; the third musketeer turned fifth wheel. Is he bitter about it? Definitely! Does he turn evil? Nah, it IS Jimmy we’re talking about. Oh, learning Clark is Superman? He sussed that way back at the start of college (when your roomie keeps breaking alarm clocks and door handles, you tend to notice) he just never said anything because he trusted Clark enough to reveal it when he felt like it. Is he still bumbling but well-meaning? Yes, this IS Jimmy we’re talking about after all. But us he an idiot? Not at all. ADHD perhaps but hardly stupid. The bad guys are bad but come from an understandable point; a group of mostly friends who manage to get (get given?) the tech that gives them powers and probably come from a low enough socioeconomic origin that their immediate thought is use the power to commit crimes. We meet the real villains a bit later, and even then we see things that could make them somewhat sympathetic. Then there’s the really big question? How can we have Superman adventures and not have a Lex Luthor? We’ve already met him.
Overly Sarcastic Productions did a two hour video split into two videos about why Superman matters. It makes me really happy that the people who really get Superman talk so passionately about what makes him great.
10 years after Man of Steel, and it's now more apparent that Zack Snyder was the wrong guy to direct it. And I don't think he was being intentionally malicious and misunderstanding of what Superman represents, just naive and well out of his league. Maybe picking the guy who directed the adaptation of WATCHMEN, the DECONSTRUCTION of superheroes, to direct a movie about an genuine superhero, wasn't WB or Chris Nolan's smartest move.
"My Adventures with Superman" is a lot of fun and it UNDERSTANDS Superman and his relationships with other characters, despite the changes they made to his B-tier enemies (Livewire, Screaming Banshee, whoever her InterGang teammates were supposed to be, Prof. Ivo being Parasite instead of inventing Amazo, OMACs being drones, having Deathstroke fight Superman at all), but I look forward to the next season.
The heavier redesigns to most of the villains used are fine BECAUSE most of them are b-listers or relatively new characters. Livewire was created for Superman The Animated Series in 1997, didn't enter the comics until 2006, she's not all that prominent of a villain and relatively speaking has little publication history to be treated as sacred canon. Prof Ivo is more or less only known as "the guy that built Amazo" and is almost never treated as a credible threat in his own right...he can barely build killer robots right anyway since half the time they just turn good for realreal...him and T.O. Morrow... (and lets me honest, most of the people complaining probably only barely remember the name from Justice League Animated, where he was already dead); meanwhile how many do you think actually remember or care about who the original Parasite is to be so defensive he's been consolidated with Ivo? And the Parasite suit was initially described in that episode as being made of Amazo technology, so they blended just fine given what Amazo's schtick is. Silver Banshee and the others being "InterGang" instead of Bruno Manheim's crime syndicate is fine in the sense they're still relying on alien weaponry, which was InterGang's whole gimmick: they were armed and supplied by Apokolips even in the Pre-Crisis days, is it so damning they're using reverse engineered Kryptonian tech instead of 4th World weapons? It's still a gang committing crimes with alien weapons. Who the hell seriously cares about the OMACs being pot-and-pans robots instead of a stupid body-jacking cyborg virus (or even worse, the original Buddy Blank, the kiss of death to any publication he was shoved into)- some of them still even had OMAC's silly mohawk. I don't think it's fair to keep demanding everything be the exact same over and over again, because how often do we at the same keep complaining how we don't need to keep seeing the same shit over and over again, how half a movie or show doesn't need to be about Bruce's parents being killed on Crime Alley or Krypton exploding, or Uncle Ben getting killed because Peter didn't feel like stopping a fleeing mugger after his wrestling match?
A thing I think many are arguing in bad faith about is only ever using screenshots of their starting appearances and pretending they don't begin to segue into new costumes that closer match their more usual looks: Ivo gets disfigured in his first battle to look like how he normally does after his first botched immortality elixir, Silver Banshee gets a proper costume and paints a skull face onto her helmet, Wilson got his eye gouged out by Livewire so he's very likely to have a the more recognizable half-face mask in the next seasons, Livewire keeps turning blue when she morbs, etc. The differences are mostly superficial and the real meat and potatoes is still pretty there at heart- the staff repeatedly show they did their homework and aren't making changes for the sake of it or to self-insert (since people keep insisting on comparing this to She-Ra, where Stevenson bragged she turned Glimmer into herself and used the script to vent her mother-issues) but for the deliberate purpose of making something new and different but still familiar for those who know
One thing that I just love about this new Superman, is how it almost feels meta in how so many people doubt Clark's true intentions. The Daily Planet; the bystanders; the villains; The General. Everyone can't fully accept that a man really, REALLY only wants to help because is the right thing to do, similar on how many in the real world can't accept that a character can just be a good person. And yet, he is. Even if it doesn't break any glass ceilling, or it revolutionate the industry, or have narrative plot twits, it doesn't matter.
Because Superman, the REAL Superman, is always supposed to be one thing. inspiring.
What I love is Death Stroke saying "We're the 'good guy'" and Clark saying "I'm just here to help" (Just a thing Superman would say). :)
Besides some questionable angst from his backstory, Snyder's Superman still acts pretty close to a white knight in his movies. Closest thing to "dark" is snapping Zod's neck, but like most villains, Zod was a petty dick.
and, you know, letting is father die when he could have easily saved him.
@@luciussvartwulf6630that isn't really dark "its basically setting up him more of a growing character".
Being dark is different from a character growing through character progression.
I like how Clark messe up more when he was upunger route than the story trying to mess with "Superman's morality later on", that can still be good but that angle is usually best explored when the character is still mostly inexperience.
This is also why I like the Superman take in My adventures with Superman since he made him more weaker at the start and only progressively gaining his abilities but by bit through experience this removes the "question of how can Superman not have a big mistep when he was inexperienced". Making him uberpowerful at the start need the writer to make him almost perfect in the very begining and that leaves lesser options to make his "character grow" at that point Superman will mostly have character growth within his Calark persona and less on Superman since he is already achieved his peak form.
Snyder Superman was by the time he donned the costume was Superman. He basically trues to talk it out forst Zodd, the millitary before even engaging in some sort of combat.
Its also more meaningful for Clark in Snyder's version to actually become Superman sonce his Dad died teaching him that he don't need to be Superman. And by the end of it all he still chose to be Superman.
Like you may hate the overall story but I don't find his characterization of Superman bad at all.
@@Snzn18 Killing Jonathan Kent in a tornado was just all around a pretty bad idea. The point of his death originally was that Superman couldn’t save everyone despite his powers. The cynical take that he had to hide his powers even at the cost of anyone else’s life for the simple idea that people just can’t handle the truth is just flat out misguided.
I'm loving this show so far. Particularly the characters. Clark saving lois from a machine gun, not knowing if the bullets will kill him. Getting the secret identity out of the way. And my favourite part when Parasite asks Superman what's his angle. And he says, "Is it so hard to imagine that some people just want to help?"
the same zach snyder who wrote that souless abortion rebel moon
It is definitely a refreshing experience, considering how far most superhero media has fallen. You can almost forgive the tumblr nonsense that's everywhere completely just because of how wholesome Superman gets to be. I love this show, it's got its issues but overall I think it's done well so far. Fingers crossed it doesn't take a nosedive a season or two from now
I don't think making Louis's skin darker was a race-swap. They just turned her into Casca, and that's not exactly a bad thing.
You hit the nail right on the head, "That's my Superman." Nearly everything else about the show is completely uninteresting, I don't particularly like any of it, but this portrayal of Clark is as near to perfect as I could wish for and I love it.
I like it in the same way I like a Saturday Morning cartoon. It’s nothing special or groundbreaking but it’s entertaining for me at least. I wouldn’t be heartbroken if it got cancelled but I also wouldn’t mind a season 2
Back in the campy days of the 60's and 70's Superman had to outthink his enemies because they allvhad counters to his powers. So he had to use his abilities creatively. Especially against villins like Brainiac and Lex Luthor.
Being a hero doesn't make you good, being good makes you a hero.
Indeed. People forget that Superman isn't good just because he uses his power to help people. He's good because he DOESN'T use the nigh godlike powers bestowed upon him to either dominate or destroy everything and everyone in his path. His moral center is what holds his power in check, preventing him from becoming the very kind of monster he does battle with on the regular.
It is easy to forget that the inspiration for Superman literally came from Nietzsche, and his concept of the "Ubermensch," a person who had surpassed the need for traditional morality and was able to construct their own fully functional paradigm from scratch. Many of Nietzsche's ideas have been explored through comics over the years, which is even more interesting when you consider the number of Hebrew-American writers involved in the Golden Age. Modern writers could use a history lesson.
I felt like this show was proof that you can have the race swap, you can even have the crummy humor. As long as you still produce a decent show that is fun to watch.
Indeed, a good story and well-written characters covereth a multitude of sins.
On the other hand, the presence of redeeming features doesn't mean arbitrarily playing identity roulette with established characters isn't a sin.
"Starbucks parishioners." 🤣
I enjoyed the video, but I feel like 50-60% of the video was you ranting about the hypothetical version of the show you assumed/expected it would be, instead of your thoughts on the show you actually watched.
Like, I feel like you're slowly becoming biased to the opposite direction, LD? Please don't become one of those people who see characters like Vi from Arcane and instantly think
"Oh, this show is *woke* and therefore *trash*."
Becoming obssessed with hating "wokeness" is just as bad as becoming obssessed with loving it.
After seeing bad news, internet drama that never ends, and terrible people pretending to be generous just to earn things like views. I want to sit down and watch a show with characters who are genuinely good people with an interesting story, dwelling on negativity just isn't healthy.
Superman has always embodied the idea that good comes about through conscious action. While wanting to do the right thing and help people if you can is the most uncomplicated moral code, it takes real will to uphold that code. In our frankly frightening and cynical capitalist hellscape of a world it's actually nice to see a character who is this pure of heart stand up and keep his morals *despite* the darkness that surrounds him. Anime himbo Superman, as you said, is *my* Superman.
Agreed with most everything, except we don't live in a capitalist hellscape of a world, we live very much in a command economy hellscape of a world. You can argue who's doing the commanding, but we quite clearly don't live in a capitalistic hellscape. You have any idea the number of companies that would be allowed to collapse if that were true in a capitalist hellscape without giant bailouts in some form or another? Also, the Soviets had a massive computer disadvantage because they were dirty pinkos and didn't inhabit the very cut throat world of competition that inevitably lead to you being able to type your drivel about capitalism, so please, be a little bit more respectful for something that lead to us meeting, okay?
"Superman is boring"
Is Hollywood tourist speak for:
"I'm too stupid to understand Superman's character and have no interest in reading the source material to get him down and just wanna do something dark and edgy"
Schinder and Seth are a blight to DC's legacy and this show is yet another stark example as to what's wrong with the modern day "writer"
It takes a truly strong person to be kind.
What I really love about the first season is that the idea that nobody can really be good for its own sake isn't just debunked, it's vilified. Slade and Waller are persuing the right ends, but with evil means, while the parasite is helping with the right means, but to a selfish end. Superman's goal of goodness for its own sake is as alien to the villians as he is.
THe only real thing I had a problem with this show is the animation errors. But that may likely not happen as much in season 2 when it'll likely get a better animation budget. The anime-style didn't ruin it for me, tbh.
Superman is the “man of tomorrow”. He is the evolved man who comes from an evolved society.
It has been a long time since a writer understood Superman and wrote him.
Not gonna lie, this show gives me hope for the future of stories.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: the world needs a man like Superman. Now more than ever. Because even though Superman has superpowers, his greatest power is his ability to inspire people to do the right thing and just because it’s the right thing to do.
Funny how Superman is still known around the world almost 90 years later...while I doubt people who didn't grow up in the 90's even know who Spawn is.
Duh, superman was marketed better worldwide than basically that is that. And the publishers whobown the ip consitently try to put it out there be it good or bad.
To be fair, Spawn was for more mature people, while Sups on the other hand was geared towards all ages. Even the Spawn cartoon had themes that were more mature in nature. While normal superhero cartoons back then didn’t have many mature elements . Yes they had some mature themes at times but was mainly dumb down to bypass the censorship so they could air for children, unlike Spawn.
You know why Superman is more morally upstanding than Spawn? It's not merely a point of nature, it's a choice, because Superman is much, much SCARIER than Spawn. Superman knows he is a thing of such awe and power that the wrong PERCEPTION of him can lead to real harm. He is a walking, talking, flying, blue spandex doomsday weapon so he makes sure to endear himself to people with absolute, unwavering trust.
Spawn is a flawed man who sometimes lets his emotions get the better of him, Superman doesn't have that LUXURY.
You know what? thanks. You have convinced me to give it a shot. Superman is my fave hero ever since I started picking up his comics in the early eighties. Lately I have grown weary of all stories either turning him evil or writing him like an idiot so others look better or the dozen ways Batman can take him out. It's good to have a show that just shows a Superman that is uplifting and inspirational again. It's not about his powers, it's how he treats everyone around him and how he uses his powers to help us and sometimes help us realize what we can without his powers.
For whatever issues I have with the show, I needed to hear this.
I've been watching it from the start and it's a great watch. Different, sure. But this show feels like it gets the assignment with how to write these characters and make them flawed but also you want to root for them at the same time. I think there's a second season that'll hopefully come in 2024 but no idea if there's a Season 3. I really like how they humanized Clark and gave him a goofy, adorable, caring personality. The fact that he almost seems to compulsively need to do good - no matter how big or small! - is wonderful to see in action. It's pretty much the polar opposite for the "dark/cold" Superman themes you've mentioned.
I'm not sure why all these 30-50 year old writers have so much disdain for the very concept of escapism. Snyder and McFarlane only seem to have surface level understandings of super heroes... Which honestly explains "Mommy Issues the Movie" and the entire 90s anti-hero genre. The best of superman is when he lets the audience see behind his perfect curtain to see how miserable he is and all he wants is a normal family, but he can't bring himself to just walk away from problems he is the most capable of solveing. Most of the big name heroes are the same way.
you said it still had some of those tendencies though, but you never came around to talking about those
I watched. It's better than I expected in the technical level, but I personally didn't like it. I think they swang the pendulum too far from the Snyderverse, to the point of parody. I prefer the true "balanced" animated Superman from DCAU (as in Superman TAS). The other stuff I did not care enough to keep watching. But I can see why many DC fans liked it.
Dude , what have women done to you?
😂😂😂 love this comment
exactly my thoughts, its fitting that someone who seems so against women looking anything slightly outside of the beauty standard would be advertising waifu books and unironically saying "best girl"
Mommy issues or too many rejections I suppose
Great analysis. You are the opposite of someone like Professor Geek: He just dismissed the series and ranted and complain without really giving the series a chance.
You actually took the time to watch the first few episodes and analysis the pros and cons. You gave the show a chance.
I was skeptical at first, but now I can't wait for S2. This show is very good and actually respects the character of Superman.
You have nothing to worry about regarding Clark being too soft. That's very much on brand for a character whose behavior is typically depicted as being very mild-mannered. I think it channeled the great Christopher Reeve's clumsy wallflower version of Clark Kent, and I'm loving every second of it. Really, my only consistent complaints are Jimmy's lolsorandom hyperactivity and the villain designs. I suppose it'd be nice to see more scenes of Superman being a genuine friend to the people of Metropolis, but this isn't a big deal. So far, this show gets a 7/10 from me.
I love superman bc he isn't just perfect he inspires others around him to be better.Hes a place every hero dreams to be.He holds the line between good and evil.He makes batman a better person.Thenppl talking about superman dont understand that he's something everyone should aspire to be.And he isn't perfect,he simply tries to be better than anyon3 who does wrong.
For all the missteps I think the show has, at least it gave us a mainstream Superman that isn't some weird Snyderesque pseudo-character wearing Superman's skin.
I'm pretty glad that this show isn't actually terrible. I'm still not going to watch it on my own volition (mostly because there are other things I find more important for my time), but knowing that it isn't bad if a friend is ever curious about it or wants me to watch it with them I won't immediately shoot it down.
Huh. That's a surprising review... I might have to watch this show now.
don't. he only saw 2 episodes. it goes full shit really quick
Otis shite Lois is a Biatch like she Immediately started attacking Jimmy Olsen because he DARED to keep Superman’s Secret and not snitch.
The Fact that she Demands a dude she knew for 3 month tell her his Deepest darkest secret that sits next to his Social Security Number and Paycheck info, and Doesn’t understand Personal Space makes me Gag.
Also The reason the Old Superman Lois Jumping out of a Window works compared to this new one is because Clark goes out of his way to Embarrass Lois as he saves her Without revealing his Secret and then Gaslights the hell out of her into believing he never moved and she’s crazy. Thus Punishing Lois Selfish actions
Don't listen to the other comments, people (ironically) are overreacting to Lois' """""Amber"""""" moment while ignoring the actual story showing her to be overreacting and in the wrong and even shows her learn this lesson by respecting further secrets she discovers later. It also shows her being embarrassed because Jimmy dealt with the secret better than her by waiting for Clark to tell him of his own free will. People are actually getting mad that Lois has flaws, instead of always doing the right thing despite the fact that would make her a mary sue.
As for the show itself, its pretty decent overall, but I dread seeing every episode because there is no way they are going to let this shows stay this good forever, surely its because of 1 good writer who will pushed out eventually by the woke staff. But we'll see, perhaps they will wait a season before ruining it.
LitDev, your opening on this has reinforced to me that one of my plans for my series is the PERFECT progression.
Short version, a man who was viewed as a moral absolute in his universe until the consequences got the better of him and he made a dangerous call to save a friend who he had to kill to save people. He undid time to save her. She is now a hero living with the memories of being used as a weapon against her will in a previous time that never was.
Her trajectory however would be different. He was being used by his powers too and felt like a pawn, groomed by a magic rock on absolute justice until he looked back and saw the bodies.
She wants to return the favor to bring him back to the world like he did her, and she also is blinded by this quest. She starts the story just as blinded by the need to save her friend that he had and even spends much of the story just pushing ahead without looking back. But the more she walks the road and faces her Yungian Shadow she eventually finds an equilibrium. The past still happened even if the consequences were undone. She was still powerless and used to kill others. But that doesn’t mean she can’t learn and grow from it. She will begin her own transition from a tragic figure and instead into one that embraces the El Santo sort of justice. No need for the same measures that her friend had taken and no need to use the darkness of the world as an excuse to give up on justice like those men at the start had said.
But she also forgives her friend for what he had done and understands not only why he did it but even defends it to others. She just says that it isn’t the road she wants to walk. That sometimes people die on the quest for justice because it’s bigger than any one person, but the goal of a hero is to make sure everyone can walk home at the end of the night.
Whereas he used to be infamous for working alone during his early days, she would start her journey making that mistake and grow into forming a team so she can have the help to save people and the support to overcome the emotional issues that come with the job.
I like this arc for her so much.
Funny thing, later on in the season the concept of him doing good just because gets touched on. *SPOILERS AHEAD* After he had just got done fighting the villain of the week they demand to know why he's doing what he does and what's in it for him. Superman's response, 'Is it so hard to believe some people just want to do good?'
That part actually got me to actually remember why I like Superman .