Meltzer: shame on Gunther for not selling his hand on chops. Also Meltzer: Ospreay and Takeshita fucked up a spot, Ospreay looked like he broke his neck and it was painful...and then he immidietely no sold it and continued trading spots. Best match ever!!!
I think we can adjust the star ratings based on how high Meltzer goes. Assuming that the top rating has been 7 stars (?), the Kingston/Danielson match at 4 ¾ stars can be adjusted back to the original 5 star scale with NewRating = R x B/A, which means the match was actually 3.39 stars.
Yeah, definitely. Or just subtract 2 stars automatically. Otherwise Kingston vs Danielson is better than Savage vs Steamboat at Mania 3 or as good as any match in Kurt Angle's entire career.
the fact that there are people who still put stock in what Meltzer says is alarming. That guy has lost any credibility he ever had once AEW got started.
There were some star ratings before, that I found questionable. But when he awarded 5 stars to that no dq match with Luchasaurus and Jungle Boy, his star ratings lost all credibility to me.
I thought the same. Matt Hardy's head bouncing on the concrete thanks to Sammy Guevara. So many near broken necks. Darby, hang nail, Moxley, Guevara, Jack off Perry, and close to all of the women's roster are a danger to themselves. Every week there's an injury.
@@archaontheeverchosen7980 And your point is? Every other promotion gets to kill one? Of all the _"but, but, but WWE..."_ whataboutisms, this is the one you went for?
Dave doesn’t even sound into the matches. He just describes the move set like he’s marking off a checklist and if there’s enough big moves, near-falls, and match time, instant classic. An extra star and a half if you’re one of his boys.
The fact that we live in a time, where there's 800k or so unbathed virginal types, that actually pay real currency for anything related to ol' marble mouth Meltzer is beyond me forever. Ha.
9:35 - Talking about how he thought Will was seriously hurt. He still gave it 5.75 stars. Mania 25. HBK Vs Undertaker. 4.75 stars. Why not 5? Why not full points as, after all, 5 was meant to be the best - "I’m gonna say, there was a predictableness to it, that I could feel like I knew what they were doing. And sometimes that’s not necessarily a bad thing." - Dave Meltzer. Did he watch the Osprey Vs Take match? Was it not predictable? Did they not just take it in turns? The Mania 25 match was not only incredible from a "work rate" and "moves" point of view, but thw whole uild was amazing. The story was incredible. Nearly everything about the match was flawless. But, somehow, on a scale of 5, they didn't make it. But Osprey Vs Take was not only better, but was 1 whole star better on a scale of 5?!!! Dave..... Buddy..... You should have just stuck to 5. Surely no one could take you seriously before but now?!!! I know it's all opinion but HOW could one of many peoples favorite matches not be as good as Just Another Osprey Match? And I like Will and Take!!! And least we forget, Kingston Vs Danielson? 4.75 stars. Meaning it is equally as good.
I was there that night it saved the ppv I'd come from England to see wrestlemania and was a bit let down up to that point that match came on and was unbelievable it was priceless no amount of stars was good enough
Here is my main issue with Tony: Fletcher has a great match with Osprey, and instead of building on this, he will not have Fletcher around for over a month. BTW, how is Wardlow victorious here then jobbing out to Joe a week later? JIM IS GOING TO HAVE A FIELD DAY. @matthewhostetter8974
So in Dave Meltzer’s mind Kurt Angle, one of the greatest professional wrestlers of all time, has never had a match as good as Kingston vs Danielson? Whatever hair dyed credibility Meltzer has ever had is nonexistent at this point
I mean the list could go on and on and on and on literally times for and continue but like the royal rumble match with Benoit with no way out match with the undertaker and it goes on and on so yeah that’s weird
In my jeff hardy voice: hey man i was watching a episode of aew and someone used my Swanton bomb and it didn't finish the match im going to north Carolina and tell my stoner friend Shannon all about you
@@miniman2132 well, he's a wrestling historian, closely following the wrestling business since the early 80s, and his star ratings was just a part of his newsletter. I agree that the whole star ratings system has become a complete joke for the last ten years but I just use them to watch some good wrestling that I otherwise wouldn't look up. anything 4* and above is usually a great match
Curious if they'll touch on Meltzer's recent comment that he may have to reevaluate the WON's year-end awards, because Dave said no other person has a chance to win Wrestler of the Year while Ospreay is active. The man has simply found his new wrestling muse.
That’s such a deranged way of looking at wrestling. I have no idea why anyone would be trying to treat any one wrestler like this, as if he is like the next evolutionary step for mankind, or something out of the Matrix or something?! I’ve never heard anyone say such ludicrous things about any of the greatest wrestlers we’ve seen over the decades!
It all makes sense if you think Meltzer is a gymnastic judge. He's not scoring matches on them telling a story. He's scoring them based on the technical difficulty of the moves. "Oh yes, a very difficult suicide dive through a table there, that will definitely boost their score"
If Jim is Fred Sanford in the thumbnail, would that mean Dave is Lamont? "5 stars? Dave, you big dummy! How'd you like one of these across your lips?"🤣🤣
9:26 Let me see if I've got this straight. Meltzer straight up acknowledged and pointed out that there was a major botch in the Takeshita/Osprey match that looked like Osprey got injured, and he still gave the match >5 stars. Also, he had no problem with Osprey continuing the match with what was a legit injury, but lost his shit when Gunther didn't sell his hand for the rest of his match with Dominik Mysterio after chopping the ring post. Also also, Sting's last match got a lower rating than Takeshita/Osprey. Has anyone ever warned Meltzer about the dangers of smoking crack, lol?
5 stars or more should mean perfection. That botch should have automatically dropped it from 5 star contention regardless how great you think the rest of the match was
For the record, he gave the Ric Flair v. Shawn Michaels retirement match at Wrestlemania 24 3.5 Stars and the Shawn Michaels v. Undertaker retirement match at 26 4.75 Stars. So apparently flairs was worse than stings (if you don’t remember it, it’s on TH-cam, rewatch it it’s amazing) and Shawn’s was just as good (it’s significantly better). I love Sting, he’s one of the things I’ve enjoyed most about AEW, but that rating is insanity.
Thumb nail looks like they are both watching a Kenny Omega match. Jim is about to join Elizabeth (Sanford and son) and Meltzer is Spooging out stars out of excitement.
Angle, Hart and Michaels aren't nearly as good or polished as Kingston, Osprey, The Bucks, Moxley, etc. Didn't you see the picture of Kingston with his three belts. It stated "This is what a pro wrestler looks like"
Listening to Uncle Dave, one thing is VERY clear. He wants Ospreay as the "next Kenny Omega" and even a better one! He is trying super hard to praise the heck out of him like he's second coming of a certain historical figure.. 😆😆😆😆
Ironically, after publicly accusing Jim of being so… thanks to his absurd star rankings, praise of modern wrestling’s choreographed gymnastics, & not fact checking his reporting in the Observer, it’s Dave who has single-handedly made himself completely irrelevant.
Its true whats been said, its self-preservation. Make sure aew seems like the most unbelievable promotion of all time, breaking his star ratings, winning all his awards and he stays relevant to next generation fans. It's his style he's always dreamed of in one promotion and they all respect and invite him in the "club" as opposed to being the outsider like his career has been. Even his twitter, when you see he injects himself into anything aew, which partially lead to fallout with Cornette, he is doing it to get people annoyed, to go to his site to hear-read what hes saying, watch aew show to see, even if not aew fan, to almost hate watch to hear his thoughts and spark more aew talk. Hes not doing it all by accident, he's more in the hardcore fan space than ever because of how obvious he is with aew slant. He was so annoyed on his show about Gunther not selling his hand after the nonstop no sells of any Omega or Bucks match, including a fork in someone's head and carrys on? Aew is his dream, and not knocking him for what he likes, that's fine, but after he once said he text'd Tony during a ppv to tell him something they forgot to mention, you lost last reasonable doubt of bias. You don't do that when a journalist, you review and comment not text the owner your insight to live program happening. Almost feel like his ways of doing all this has actually hurt Aew more with the larger fanbase. Even their fans at times aren't as high on what Dave rates these matches.
I wish Jim would do his own star ratings these days. Don’t even put real thought into it, just give matches stars in passing depending on what you think
It's so telling that in his comments on Ospreay/Takeshita, all Dave does is list moves. He's like a guy who thinks that Michael Bay is the best director because he has the most explosions.
I think Dave melter is absolutely delusional. Giving 6 stars to such terrible matches. I'm not saying all AE w matches are terrible.But it goes to show that clearly he is pro.A e w and no other promotion whatsoever
*SPOILER:* Mercedes Mone made her AEW debut at the start of the program, cut a promo, then saved Willow Nightingale from an afterbirth in the main event.
I was stunned they decided to have Riho vs. Willow be the Dynamite main event (while also being mildly impressed at the sheer chutzpah of it) but it sort of made sense after Mercedes made her run-in after it was over and the show ended with her front and center.
Dave’s summary of the Ospreay-Takeshita match sounds like a book my 3 year old daughter might read. “Will put on his hat. Will walked to the bus stop. His mommy said the bus would come soon. Will saw the bus coming.” I feel sorry for him that this is the level he can engage with wrestling on.
8:40 The description of the Takeshita vs. Ospreay match by Dave is exactly why this match was stupid. Just spots and moves with no story. And I agree with Brian that Fletcher vs. Ospreay was better than the Revolution match
With every star Kenny’s heart breaks that much more . Poor guy . First the trampoline cowboys kick him out of the Elite then old Dave gives the new boy a bunch of stars . The only person to have a worse week in march was Julius Ceaser
I’ve seen a clip of them repeatedly missing, botching, and miscommunicating the most simple, basic, attempt to exchange chops and forearms. You can’t give that ONE star! That wasn’t fit to be broadcast, let alone be rated almost the best pro wrestling can be. It’s ridiculous.
While no reasonable person could agree with the high ratings, ospreay was the best match and toni storm deonna purazzo was not entertaining in the least. Everything in between is subjective. I personally found danielson vs kingston to be terrible but dave would never dare upset danielson. Really showed the difference between guys who know how to work japanese style versus guys like kingston who just cosplay it.
For a match to be rated 3 stars or more, shouldn't the crowd be vocally into the action the entire time? For 4 stars or more, shouldn't the entire crowd be standing the entire time? For 5+, shouldn't the crowd be jumping up and down with deafening volume? Or, is it just the in ring product/psychology, storyline hook, match length, breathing hard, painful facial expressions/selling, difficulty of executing moves, fancy entrance themes/music, and/or name value?
The AEW fanbase and the WON readers (they’re essentially one and the same) are some of the most delusional people I’ve seen…a lot of them are really saying with a straight face that it was one of the greatest wrestling PPV’s of all time
I’ve always defended Daves star ratings because ultimately its one mans opinion, but fucking hell some of these are inflated as all hell. Kingston vs Danielson was 4.75*? In what planet was that match better than anything Angle ever did?
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Meltzer: shame on Gunther for not selling his hand on chops.
Also Meltzer: Ospreay and Takeshita fucked up a spot, Ospreay looked like he broke his neck and it was painful...and then he immidietely no sold it and continued trading spots. Best match ever!!!
It works for that audience
And he is their number 1 audience @@JohnKobaRuddy
@@JohnKobaRuddy🤣
Was telling a guy I work with bitching about an actually Man not selling hitting the ring post, yet praising non selling matches from AEW.
Gunther is rated very highly
He goes on a rant about Gunther not selling the hand and gives over 5* to this no selling bullshit
No surprise at this point
I think we can adjust the star ratings based on how high Meltzer goes. Assuming that the top rating has been 7 stars (?), the Kingston/Danielson match at 4 ¾ stars can be adjusted back to the original 5 star scale with NewRating = R x B/A, which means the match was actually 3.39 stars.
Yeah, definitely. Or just subtract 2 stars automatically. Otherwise Kingston vs Danielson is better than Savage vs Steamboat at Mania 3 or as good as any match in Kurt Angle's entire career.
I'd bet he'd glaze over TK glazing on his face.
How did you get the 3/4 symbol. Alt key shortcut on computer, vs smartphone.
the fact that there are people who still put stock in what Meltzer says is alarming. That guy has lost any credibility he ever had once AEW got started.
Switch Meltzer out for Trump and AEW out for indictments and that sentence is a very apt description of 2023...
@@FnRenner Trump never had any credibility to begin with. And to be honest I'm still mystified as to why anyone ever though Meltzer had any either.
@@FnRenner You Americans have to compare everything to your own politics? Trump this Trump that. Total brainrot.
As long as he tells the Dubbalos what they want to hear, they will still prop him up.
There were some star ratings before, that I found questionable. But when he awarded 5 stars to that no dq match with Luchasaurus and Jungle Boy, his star ratings lost all credibility to me.
I bet Uncle Dave was sat there like Randy Marsh after he got Internet access after the Ospreay Takeshita match
Those damn ghosts and their ectoplasm
lol
SPOOOKY GHOOOSTS 😂😂
He Osprayed so hard ...
Lmfao 😂
Dave glazing AEW harder than Krispy Kreme glazes donuts.
Too much glaze 🤢
Daved and Confused.
The amount of lotion and tissues Meltzer is going through in AEW right now with Okada and Asspreasy in AEW is keeping CVS in business.
@@MariuszMroczek-dd7ku😂 he makes the exact same face as Rory Cochrane on the promotional poster for Dazed and Confused
@@getschwifty9531 😝
Al Snow said that someone is going to die in an AEW ring. And Uncle Dave is part of the problem by rewarding them for doing these unsafe moves.
I'm the furthest thing from a aew fan but tech a wrestler already died in a wwe ring
I thought the same. Matt Hardy's head bouncing on the concrete thanks to Sammy Guevara. So many near broken necks. Darby, hang nail, Moxley, Guevara, Jack off Perry, and close to all of the women's roster are a danger to themselves. Every week there's an injury.
@archaontheeverchosen7980 yeah and it seems like AEW is trying to speedrun to that point
Darby is going to be safer on Everest than in a wrestling ring at this point
@@archaontheeverchosen7980 And your point is? Every other promotion gets to kill one?
Of all the _"but, but, but WWE..."_ whataboutisms, this is the one you went for?
"Oh good lord" - me every time I hear something Meltzer has recently said.
Recently for the last 5 years 😅
@@tripvic7629 not wrong lmao
They all get maybe 5 stars in GTA.
At this stage, Osprey could do a moonsault and take a shit in mid air at the same time and Uncle Dave would give it 4.5 Stars.
Honestly that would be more entertaining than anything else going on in AEW 😂
This is like describing tubgirl part 2. 😂😂
If he could land the shit in a bucket while sticking the landing he probably honestly deserves it lol
@@robdurfee6861 lmfao
Osprey could have a 30 second match and metlzer would give it 7 stars
AEW is only for Meltzer. It may as well be called All Meltzer Wrestling at this point.
The worst thing is people will look back on these ratings in a few years time with no context & take Dave’s word for them …
We don't have to worry about that at this rate he will ruin all credibility before they start looking back
I don’t think we need to worry about that….!
Nobody cares about Meltzer anymore. But it sure is funny to laugh at his madness.
Razzie Awards
Eurgh. I used to do that when getting into wrestling… wasn’t great…
Uncle Dave jacking himself in the thumbnail 😂
Star skeet.
Can't call him uncle with this thumbnail 🤢
🌟STAR🦸♂️DUST🌟
I mean he does that every time Ospreay say BRUV
Just caught that
Takeshita botches a spot and both completely no sell it, 6 stars. Gunther doesn’t sell his hand after chopping a post. Unacceptable
Also, slapping a post wouldn't sting for more than a few seconds. That turnbuckle spot could have paralyzed both guys because it was such a bad idea.
Well Gunther isn't Japanese and has the nerve to work for WWE so of course it's unacceptable to Uncle Dave.
@@LongLiveRockAnRollYou know Walter has one of the best Dave ratings records for any wrestler right? Including his WWE stuff
Dave doesn’t even sound into the matches. He just describes the move set like he’s marking off a checklist and if there’s enough big moves, near-falls, and match time, instant classic. An extra star and a half if you’re one of his boys.
Dave uses the same meter from the WWE 2K games
The fact that we live in a time, where there's 800k or so unbathed virginal types, that actually pay real currency for anything related to ol' marble mouth Meltzer is beyond me forever.
Ha.
At least 400k would rather bathe/jack off than watch Collision or Rampage
9:35 - Talking about how he thought Will was seriously hurt. He still gave it 5.75 stars.
Mania 25. HBK Vs Undertaker. 4.75 stars. Why not 5? Why not full points as, after all, 5 was meant to be the best -
"I’m gonna say, there was a predictableness to it, that I could feel like I knew what they were doing. And sometimes that’s not necessarily a bad thing."
- Dave Meltzer.
Did he watch the Osprey Vs Take match? Was it not predictable? Did they not just take it in turns?
The Mania 25 match was not only incredible from a "work rate" and "moves" point of view, but thw whole uild was amazing. The story was incredible. Nearly everything about the match was flawless. But, somehow, on a scale of 5, they didn't make it.
But Osprey Vs Take was not only better, but was 1 whole star better on a scale of 5?!!! Dave..... Buddy..... You should have just stuck to 5.
Surely no one could take you seriously before but now?!!! I know it's all opinion but HOW could one of many peoples favorite matches not be as good as Just Another Osprey Match?
And I like Will and Take!!!
And least we forget, Kingston Vs Danielson?
4.75 stars. Meaning it is equally as good.
I was there that night it saved the ppv I'd come from England to see wrestlemania and was a bit let down up to that point that match came on and was unbelievable it was priceless no amount of stars was good enough
That’s when I knew Dave doesn’t mean shit lol. All of aew’s matches is better than flair vs steamboat
Taker dive botch
27 Star Winners
Twinkle Toes
The Buckaroos
Hangnail Page
Pockets
Plumber
Jelly Nutelle must be crying now.
Will Ostrich
Jim as Fred Sanford in the thumbnail!😂😂😂😂😂 Elizabeth I’m coming home to ya! 😂😂😂😂😂
Embarassing ratings. Cold matches that are already forgotten given 4 stars +. That's a regular thing from Dave now
Did Dave sit next to JFK in Dallas and get something too?
Meltzer has to do damage control for the backlash of the Darby spot and the low buy-rate.
It doesn't matter if it's cold, dumbo. The rating is about the match. And it was a 6 star match.
They could have a killer tag team division, but oh well.
Here is my main issue with Tony: Fletcher has a great match with Osprey, and instead of building on this, he will not have Fletcher around for over a month. BTW, how is Wardlow victorious here then jobbing out to Joe a week later? JIM IS GOING TO HAVE A FIELD DAY. @matthewhostetter8974
I'm coming Elizabeth!! Jim is truly a man of "GOOD" culture
That Thumbnail...
9.7843 STARZ!
So in Dave Meltzer’s mind Kurt Angle, one of the greatest professional wrestlers of all time, has never had a match as good as Kingston vs Danielson? Whatever hair dyed credibility Meltzer has ever had is nonexistent at this point
thats where Dave lost me with that Kurt angle never getting 5-star matches.
@@officialsonic1basically Dave refused to give WWE 5 stars for a long time. I think NXT broke that. Such a shame.
I mean the list could go on and on and on and on literally times for and continue but like the royal rumble match with Benoit with no way out match with the undertaker and it goes on and on so yeah that’s weird
And if Angle decides to wrestle his retirement match in AEW, he suddenly get awarded 5 stars by Uncle Dave.....
@@stingersplash Kurt Angle had a mountain of good matches in TNA too, yet Davey Boy was too busy fawning over japanese vanilla midgets
It's crazy all these "5 star matches" AEW has had over the years but they can't get to 900k viewers on their weekly TV show.
Don't tell the cult😂
It's because poor people can't afford AEW. Or stars. Duh.
800k now 😅
@@LongLiveRockAnRoll They went down to 600k for this week's main event on Dynamite.
Better viewership doesn't equal better wrestling
5 3/4 stars? Cue the Charlie Murphy laughing GIF.
Blud could make a galaxy with those stars
In my jeff hardy voice: hey man i was watching a episode of aew and someone used my Swanton bomb and it didn't finish the match im going to north Carolina and tell my stoner friend Shannon all about you
In my Steve Rogers voice: I understood that reference!
@@romelmunoz7957 a man of good taste I see
Marky d
Dave "The Mark Of Marks" Meltzer.
So Eddie Kingston vs Danielson was the same rating as Michaels vs Undertaker at WM 25.
Yepppp 🤷
Drunka Lumpa vs. Umpa Lumpa
Seethe and cope and whimper and whine, who cares about his ratings?
@@svekkapung I don’t care about ratings, I’m frustrated that somebody so objectively bias has such a following in professional wrestling.
@@miniman2132 well, he's a wrestling historian, closely following the wrestling business since the early 80s, and his star ratings was just a part of his newsletter. I agree that the whole star ratings system has become a complete joke for the last ten years but I just use them to watch some good wrestling that I otherwise wouldn't look up. anything 4* and above is usually a great match
The same guy who knocked a random chop on WWE.
Curious if they'll touch on Meltzer's recent comment that he may have to reevaluate the WON's year-end awards, because Dave said no other person has a chance to win Wrestler of the Year while Ospreay is active. The man has simply found his new wrestling muse.
Ospreay seems to have bumped Omega off from his position as Meltzer's boy.
@@Raj80191I believe Jim worded it as the "passing of Meltzer's phallus" in a recent video XD
@@davich_ That's much better lol.
That’s such a deranged way of looking at wrestling. I have no idea why anyone would be trying to treat any one wrestler like this, as if he is like the next evolutionary step for mankind, or something out of the Matrix or something?! I’ve never heard anyone say such ludicrous things about any of the greatest wrestlers we’ve seen over the decades!
@@DavidOwen-yv8wzEspecially when guys like Ostrich are the norm now. Nothing spectacular about him.
I used to be a big Bret Hart fan, but based on these ratings I have no choice but to declare him inferior to Eddie Kingston.
Red Cornette popped me hard. "Bobby, I'm coming Bobby!"
Just hit play and very excited to confirm that the thumbnail is indeed Corny as Fred Sanford, calling on Elizabeth because Meltzer is a big dummy.
Leave it to Jim Cornette to cut a promo on a promo with poor Brian running behind him to clean it up for the sponsors 😂😂😂
It all makes sense if you think Meltzer is a gymnastic judge. He's not scoring matches on them telling a story. He's scoring them based on the technical difficulty of the moves. "Oh yes, a very difficult suicide dive through a table there, that will definitely boost their score"
Aew may as well have a 3 person panel on the shows that hold up numbered cards when the perform a move. The marks would eat that up.
If Jim is Fred Sanford in the thumbnail, would that mean Dave is Lamont?
"5 stars? Dave, you big dummy! How'd you like one of these across your lips?"🤣🤣
9:26 Let me see if I've got this straight. Meltzer straight up acknowledged and pointed out that there was a major botch in the Takeshita/Osprey match that looked like Osprey got injured, and he still gave the match >5 stars.
Also, he had no problem with Osprey continuing the match with what was a legit injury, but lost his shit when Gunther didn't sell his hand for the rest of his match with Dominik Mysterio after chopping the ring post.
Also also, Sting's last match got a lower rating than Takeshita/Osprey.
Has anyone ever warned Meltzer about the dangers of smoking crack, lol?
If Ospreay had to do everything he had for 20 minutes to beat Take, what's he have to do to beat someone with value?
The exact same things but for 40 mins lol
@@MultiBlack17didn't MJF and Danielson had a sixty minutes fight...??
They're like Dark Souls bosses, the young bucks will kick out of every health bar and no sell damage
@@romelmunoz7957 your point?
@@MultiBlack17my point is that's not a problem with AEW to have long matches between top wrestlers.
I saw Ospraey vs Takeshita and automatically knew everyone in the bubble was gonna act like it's the greatest match of all time.
Jim's reaction of the Ostrich/Takesh*t match is priceless 😂😂
Basically if you go over 20 minutes and a bunch of moves, it's a minimum of 4 stars
5 stars or more should mean perfection. That botch should have automatically dropped it from 5 star contention regardless how great you think the rest of the match was
An Osprey botch is so perfect it deserves an extra star 👍
Ostrich can never do any wrong in Metzler eye
Jim as Fred Sanford, 5 stars for Travis. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Now that's real
It's the big one Harley!!!😂
When Jim starts a segment with "Oh good Lord", you know you're in for a treat.
For the record, he gave the Ric Flair v. Shawn Michaels retirement match at Wrestlemania 24 3.5 Stars and the Shawn Michaels v. Undertaker retirement match at 26 4.75 Stars. So apparently flairs was worse than stings (if you don’t remember it, it’s on TH-cam, rewatch it it’s amazing) and Shawn’s was just as good (it’s significantly better). I love Sting, he’s one of the things I’ve enjoyed most about AEW, but that rating is insanity.
I love how Brian sounds constantly stressed when Cornette starts his ad reads.
Jim Cornette as Redd Foxx is funny I'm literally in tears after seeing this pic😂
Thumb nail looks like they are both watching a Kenny Omega match. Jim is about to join Elizabeth (Sanford and son) and Meltzer is Spooging out stars out of excitement.
What star rating would Dave give his relationship with his son?
Wait what? Dude has actually had sex? Does his sexless followers know this?
Ha.
Is his son in the Tokyo Dome or hugging Tony Khan?
His son is OJ boy? It's all beginning to make sense now.
Ha.
@@Am0ment0fB WORTHLESS TRASH.
He has two twin daughters. Bucky No'Haire and Bucky Larson.
The Olsen Twins from AEW. A real Full House there, and not a single talent in sight.
Always remember uncle Dave never gave Kurt angle or perc angle a 5 star match
Angle, Hart and Michaels aren't nearly as good or polished as Kingston, Osprey, The Bucks, Moxley, etc. Didn't you see the picture of Kingston with his three belts. It stated "This is what a pro wrestler looks like"
He needs a jacket with the sleeves tied behind the back
and a padded room without furniture.
@MariuszMroczek-dd7ku 😂that broke me. I pictured it in travis thumbnail form 😂 can he bring the skateboard with him in the padded room too?
@LowTierScrub 🛹
Uncle Dave’s review of Ospreay vs. Takeshita sounds like figure skating. 8:45
It's actually worse than they calculated. Estimates have the PPV buys at 170,000-ish. So its .3%
How Dave still has a job in this industry is mind-boggling.
He is self-employed
I personally am glad he does. Jim going on Dave rants is entertaining. But that’s just me.
@@weirdlyflipping2349 which means there's still enough fans to pay his bills. Yikes
@@sonsoftexas that I agree with 😂
Simple -you can’t be let go of a job you made up
I can't begin to imagine how many stars a cirque du soleil performance would get.
I'm starting to wonder if we need to start adjusting for inflation when looking at Dave's star ratings.
Yes the inflation he gets in his pants
"Ah shit, here we go again."
Lol
At least they didn’t do anything crazy during this ppv like no sell a hand chop to the post or Dave would have had to dock it some stars
Oh wait, Darby leaping onto real glass, cry me a river 😂
“If the scale was 1 to 10”😂😂😂
Listening to Uncle Dave, one thing is VERY clear. He wants Ospreay as the "next Kenny Omega" and even a better one! He is trying super hard to praise the heck out of him like he's second coming of a certain historical figure.. 😆😆😆😆
4.75 is the same rating that Benoit vs HHH vs Shawn Michaels at WrestleMania XX got.
Ironically, after publicly accusing Jim of being so… thanks to his absurd star rankings, praise of modern wrestling’s choreographed gymnastics, & not fact checking his reporting in the Observer, it’s Dave who has single-handedly made himself completely irrelevant.
NO THUMBS DOWN AT ALL from the readership. This is why the "it's just the votes of the readers" defence for the Wrestling Observer Awards is a joke.
Yep. All sheep. No show is perfect or beyond criticism.
Its true whats been said, its self-preservation. Make sure aew seems like the most unbelievable promotion of all time, breaking his star ratings, winning all his awards and he stays relevant to next generation fans. It's his style he's always dreamed of in one promotion and they all respect and invite him in the "club" as opposed to being the outsider like his career has been. Even his twitter, when you see he injects himself into anything aew, which partially lead to fallout with Cornette, he is doing it to get people annoyed, to go to his site to hear-read what hes saying, watch aew show to see, even if not aew fan, to almost hate watch to hear his thoughts and spark more aew talk. Hes not doing it all by accident, he's more in the hardcore fan space than ever because of how obvious he is with aew slant. He was so annoyed on his show about Gunther not selling his hand after the nonstop no sells of any Omega or Bucks match, including a fork in someone's head and carrys on? Aew is his dream, and not knocking him for what he likes, that's fine, but after he once said he text'd Tony during a ppv to tell him something they forgot to mention, you lost last reasonable doubt of bias. You don't do that when a journalist, you review and comment not text the owner your insight to live program happening. Almost feel like his ways of doing all this has actually hurt Aew more with the larger fanbase. Even their fans at times aren't as high on what Dave rates these matches.
I wish Jim would do his own star ratings these days. Don’t even put real thought into it, just give matches stars in passing depending on what you think
Yeah, if nothing else to piss off Dave.
According to Dave Meltzer Eddie Kingston is a better wrestler than Kurt Angle. And that is why I'll never give his ratings any real credence.
And Angle,Eddie Guerrero,Benoit, never had a 5 star ratings match.It's embarrasing....
Suddenly Dave forgot about selling and logic
Travis Heckell for the win
It's so telling that in his comments on Ospreay/Takeshita, all Dave does is list moves. He's like a guy who thinks that Michael Bay is the best director because he has the most explosions.
I think Dave melter is absolutely delusional. Giving 6 stars to such terrible matches. I'm not saying all AE w matches are terrible.But it goes to show that clearly he is pro.A e w and no other promotion whatsoever
*SPOILER:* Mercedes Mone made her AEW debut at the start of the program, cut a promo, then saved Willow Nightingale from an afterbirth in the main event.
It could've been worse, Riho could've won. Such a shame really, I would have loved to see Cornettes reaction to that! 😂
That RIHO match was awful. They had no rhythm.
And she won't change the ratings.
I was stunned they decided to have Riho vs. Willow be the Dynamite main event (while also being mildly impressed at the sheer chutzpah of it) but it sort of made sense after Mercedes made her run-in after it was over and the show ended with her front and center.
She cut the same promo as CM Punk and Saraya, all while doing her Sasha Banks gimmick without the name
OH GOOD LORD!!
So by Dave's own description of the Ospreay/Takeshita match, he only cares about seeing big moves and spots. Forget psychology or telling a story.
Blue Hearts For Skye And Julie Tag Team Name!
Send shotzi over there and make them the black and blue hearts. Plus as an added bonus it would get shotzi off wwe tv
Dave’s summary of the Ospreay-Takeshita match sounds like a book my 3 year old daughter might read. “Will put on his hat. Will walked to the bus stop. His mommy said the bus would come soon. Will saw the bus coming.”
I feel sorry for him that this is the level he can engage with wrestling on.
That thumbnail of Dave is just HILARIOUS....
I clicked only for it...
At this point Jim should just start his own star rating just to set the IWC on fire...
Lets get Weasel Dooley out of retirement and have him and Corny revive the original rating system they started.
LOL, he's the one that came up with the star rating to begin with.
8:40 The description of the Takeshita vs. Ospreay match by Dave is exactly why this match was stupid. Just spots and moves with no story.
And I agree with Brian that Fletcher vs. Ospreay was better than the Revolution match
The match where there was a botch and near injury breaks 5 stars and is better than every Kurt angle match????
Wait hold on I was still laughing at the 4 star matches and then heard the Osprey match 5 and 3/4’s? Ahaha I almost died
Even if Meltzer graded matches out of 10 stars you would see ridiculous 9 and 3/4 star ratings to matches lol
He didn’t notice Matt Jackson didn’t even have to move to avoid the glass dive? Curious.
18:07 "don't sell defacation" ... wouldn't that make someone an entrepre-maneur... thank you, you've been wonderful people, I'll show myself out
With every star Kenny’s heart breaks that much more . Poor guy . First the trampoline cowboys kick him out of the Elite then old Dave gives the new boy a bunch of stars . The only person to have a worse week in march was Julius Ceaser
Oh christ here we go
I didn't think Jim was going to still be alive at the end of this clip. Uncle Dave is trying to kill our pal Jim.
Hope Dave piss Jim to a point where Jim vow to outlive Uncle Dave and piss on his grave also, just for liking the Buckaroo or Plumber Moxley
I like Danielson, but that Kingston match was abysmal
Chop,chop, chop, chop,chop,chop,chop,chop,chop,...kick kick, chop , chop, chop, chop chop chop
Sop-ify is actually a great name for a gravy business.
Jim Cornette as Fred Sanford is awesome
Over/under on Kenny coming back to challenge Ocean Spray for Dave's fluff services??
I can't lie... Bang bang scissor gang is a phenomenal name lol😂😂😂😂😂
Cornette's reaction to Kingston/Danielson was my favourite.
I’ve seen a clip of them repeatedly missing, botching, and miscommunicating the most simple, basic, attempt to exchange chops and forearms. You can’t give that ONE star! That wasn’t fit to be broadcast, let alone be rated almost the best pro wrestling can be. It’s ridiculous.
I can’t stop laughing at Jim’s reaction reaction the 4 star matches haha
Meltzer Khan and Alvarez gave it 8 1/2 Stars
I know you're joking because that's way too low
I thought Alvarez actually gave it 8 1/4 and Meltzer thought it was basically the same
While no reasonable person could agree with the high ratings, ospreay was the best match and toni storm deonna purazzo was not entertaining in the least. Everything in between is subjective. I personally found danielson vs kingston to be terrible but dave would never dare upset danielson. Really showed the difference between guys who know how to work japanese style versus guys like kingston who just cosplay it.
Travis Heckel's artwork should be displayed at the MOMA.
For a match to be rated 3 stars or more, shouldn't the crowd be vocally into the action the entire time? For 4 stars or more, shouldn't the entire crowd be standing the entire time? For 5+, shouldn't the crowd be jumping up and down with deafening volume? Or, is it just the in ring product/psychology, storyline hook, match length, breathing hard, painful facial expressions/selling, difficulty of executing moves, fancy entrance themes/music, and/or name value?
I love Jim as Fred Sa b ford holding his chest. Wheres Lamont?
The AEW fanbase and the WON readers (they’re essentially one and the same) are some of the most delusional people I’ve seen…a lot of them are really saying with a straight face that it was one of the greatest wrestling PPV’s of all time
Then, they always lie to people and themselves to justify the stupidity in AEW.
I’ve always defended Daves star ratings because ultimately its one mans opinion, but fucking hell some of these are inflated as all hell. Kingston vs Danielson was 4.75*? In what planet was that match better than anything Angle ever did?
Angle has a bunch of 4.75 matches
Tangled up in Blue is such a fantastic song. I agree Brian.
“I was doin jobs in the AE dub, once or twice a month for a spell,
But l nevah did like it awl that much and one day it awl went ta hell..”