After messing around with both software and hardware, I found that Rekordbox DJ has worked the best for me. I feel like RB has the best color and beat FX compare to the other DJ software, and their controllers like the DDJ-RZ and RR Just does it for me. On the downside, it sucks that I can't use my controllers with other DJ software. Well, not with Serato, The RR can be used with VDJ and DJay Pro, but they just don't play well. I can't really speak in a more professional level since I do it more as a hobby, DJing on shoutcast with a small listening base or during house parties here and there while giving up on the mobile DJ thing since it turned out it wasn't the business I wanted to get into. But man, other DJs gave flack that I used RB instead of Serato, even worst showing up with a DDJ-400 connected to my iPhone using the DJay pro app, all because I just didn't want to carry heavier equipment with me to a party. If you're using your own equipment, then it shouldn't matter. When I'm at parties or clubs listening to the music, I really don't think about the hardware. I think about the music being played, the mixing, the song selection and the order they play and honestly, that's what the crowd is thinking too. It matters if the DJ software is working with or against the DJ himself. Does it play well with their hardware. Does it have the features they need or want. Compatibility if they're working with other DJs or using club equipment. It's stuff to consider when figuring out what DJ software to use. But I also feel that picking a software just because it's industry standard or it impresses or to be accepted by other DJs is the wrong way to go. DJ in is about reading the crowd and setting the mood at a club, an event, or even at a small house or pool party. It's like what DJ Keo said and a lot of good DJs I know; at the core, all DJ software does the same thing.
VDJ is the minivan of dj software, yea it's sort of goofy looking, yea some give you shit for having it but if you want the most features, options and are secure in your own skin a minivan.....err VDJ is dope. BTW I haul my gear around in a minivan too, so ladies....hit me up haha
I can work with any hardware or software. However, for my style, I prefer VDJ and RB. I mixed music, fx, videos and DMX lights for mobile gigs. I give people a mini Vegas style club experience at private events and weddings at a much lower cost. Most of the time, I am a one man show, therefore, VDJ give me the most flexibility because I can play music, mix videos and control lights with Soundswitch. Unfortunately, the other software do not provide that level of flexibility, except RB, which you must use pioneer DMX interface exclusively.
When I started DJing, I used Virtual DJ. My reason was I didn't understand Rekordbox at the time. My 1st controller was the WEGO 4. When I upgrade to DDJ 400, my main purpose was to use and understand Rekordbox5. Not only use it for the 400, but I could also use it with Pro gear as well. For me, that was a game-changer. I learned how to analyze, select beat grids, place hot cues, and choose different colors FX. I upgraded to my current controller the DDJ 800. I purchase it in Nov 2019. In April 2020 Rekordbox 6 came out. The only issue with switching over was I had to re-analyze my entire library again along with adding my cue points. Once I got that done, it's been awesome ever since. I've wanted to upgrade to a Pioneer stand-alone but since the supply shortage and the price hike on DJ hardware, it has not been possible. I have been looking at Denon DJ hardware but they too have been dealing with supply shortage and price hikes. Their Prime 4 and Prime 2 are both out of my price range. I did notice Numark came out with a stand-alone that has the same Engine DJ software but at a price that will fit my budget. Plus, I don't have to replace my DDJ 800. The Mixstrem Pro looks at the system I plan on getting. Also, it will allow me to learn and grow with the Engine software as I did with Rekordox.
True but all the Traktor controllers are garbage now, Compare the S4MK3 vs the Prime 4 or XDJ-XZ? No comparison. Traktor needs a new Mixer (Z4) and a full 4 deck standalone to actually compete.
The S11 has had me move from traktor Z2 to serato. Traktor is uninspiring, Rekordbox has disappointed me from not being able to read ntfs external drives. VDJ I got mad respect for as a backup I'm looking to use more. The Z2 showed the way forward. the S11 to me is the Z3 that I was waiting on. I just got the new macbook pro so I'll give rekordbox another go, eventually.
Yeah I was on traktor for a long time and had a Z2 but then I bought a DJM S9. I was stick between rekordbox and Serato but then Rekordbox changed to subscription base ... So now I'm with Serato. 👍
The exact same as me! I've had my Z2 since day one and loved it and was on board with Traktor before that, using a Vestax PMC 05Pro4 with the built in midi buttons. I even used Serato prior to all that when it was SSL back when I used to do weddings. I've had a break from DJn the last few years as I kinda lost inspiration due to the current state of music BUT felt the urge to get back on the decks since about 6 weeks ago. So I went to see what was new and what's changed with Traktor and NI in terms of hardware and software in the time that I had off...and basically nothing new at all. No new mixers since the 8 years since the Z2 came out from NI. I got my hands on the S11 not just a few days ago, the 1st day was somewhat frustrating as I couldn't find my fav features that I used in my mixing style that was on the Z2, but I ended up finding them thank God. Im still learning everything on the S11...and there's a heck of a lot. The few little probs that Ive had so far have only been a quick google search and was usually a very quick and simple fix. I agree 100% the S11 is the Z3 that we've all been waiting for. The more Im using Serato the more Im growing to love it. What Im loving about the S11 so far is that its basically a Z2 and F1 controller in one unit. My style of DJn is live remixing so this is perfect for me. I still got mad love for Traktor but with lack of support it seems like it may be a slowly sinking ship. I don't think I'll ever sell my Z2, I may have a Traktor set up put to the side just to pay homage and for memories sake.
I also like traktor visuals . Waveforms look much nicer and it is important when playing with new songs. Also find the auto beat grid is also much better than serato meaning less admin to do. The only thing that grinds me with traktor is the effects. They sound so much better than other software and much more adjustable but the controls for them aren't as easy. NI should bring out an intuative effects controller for instant gratification
All of them have major flaws, which is why I'm using multiple, and whatever I feel like. Serato: - DVS is just bad on Windows. I mean bad, sometimes like 2005 DVS 1.0 bad. - Shitty file compatibility. - Oudated browser. - Can't analyze songs without disconnecting hardware. Traktor: - Cue system is outdated. - No flexible beat grids. Rekordbox: - DVS somewhat lacking, compared to Traktor, and especially Serato. - You absolutely need certified (Pioneer) gear to use DVS. - Horrible purchase options. Expensive. Virtual DJ: - Full package, but too much hand holding to the point I'm not even sure what I'm controlling myself. - Ugly, and requires too much work to make it look decent and 'professional.' - Very expensive. I'd probably switch to Virtual DJ if it wasn't over 300€ for a one-time purchase. Never in hell would I pay over 20€ a month for DJ software, especially at this time of uncertainty.
@@alphaza76 Getting audio glitching when scratching, poor sound quality in general compared to Rekordbox or Traktor. FLAC files don't work at all, etc.
I used DJay Pro and Serato and may start Rekordbox if I end up buying the Pioneer 800 this weekend. I start with gear first and use what its intended for.
Traktor remix deck a must for me. You can set a separate loop in traktor with out having to use a cue point. Sonically traktor sounds better. What missing now from traktor-pro-3 is more compatibility with with other gear.
I use rekordbox and I really don’t wanna switch cause I like a fully integrated experience lighting streaming everything but what kills me is the rane12 digital turntables I really wish they worked on rekordbox. I’ve considered sc6000m and 1850 but I feel like the software might not be ready yet
I've used Serato Scratch Live, Traktor, and Serato, DJ. My favorite is Serato Scratch Live. SSL is light, clean, stable, and it works well with even the cheapest of laptops. (2 Numark TTX turntables, a Rane TTM 56S mixer, and a Rane SL3 audio interface.)
With Serato v3.x, older hardware is now not supported and you will have to roll back which means you will lose stems. The question for me is do i want to buy a new mixer every x many years. This has a similar ipad feeling of not being able to install apps, so you put it in a drawer and buy another.
I’ve been rocking VDJ for years now, combined with my Denon MCX8000. Definitely feel the software agnostic vibes, but for the small-mid sized events I do and my radio mixes I like VDJ’s recording function and customization. The support is lacking though, and the software definitely bugs out more than others, which is annoying
I’m a newbie and I’ve been using Rekordbox with my DdJ 400 it’s the only software I know , so now I’m ready to upgrade. I was thinking Ddj 1000 only because of the software I’ve only used , but now Serato has Stems now I’m considering the 1000 Srt .
I started with Serato, I'm cofortable with it, and all of my crates have been curated in Serato.... I have been debating ditching the laptop and going with Denon Prime gear and Engine, but am hesitant to switch. One biggie for me is because I love the Serato Sampler player feature and Denon's Engine Prime doesn't quite have something for that... also, I would still need a laptop if I want to use SoundSwitch. Hoping the mext gen of Engine software, and Prime gear, can run SoundSwitch on its own, and ads a Sample Player function similar to Serato. Aside from that, a standalone similar to the Prime 4, but with Serato built in, would be pretty sweet. Looking forward to what comes out now that it is NAMM season...
I find there’s more support for Traktor on the web too in terms of learning. I liked Serato too first learned on that but when I really wanted to learn along with midi mapping effects or expansions with maschine or even basic better djaying Traktor has more support... that said I’m leaning on getting rid of my laptop software and just do stand-alone. What would you recommend.
Hi DJ Keo, nowadays I use the clubs equipment so I dont have to bring mine but I do bring my own controller. The club I currently dj at has a pioneer S9 for serato which has serato sound card built in it. So I can just plug and play without having to use my controller. Problem with that or for most dj's if they go this route is that whereever you place your laptop the play button is away from the pioneer S9. I am at times comfortable this way and at times im not 'cause I do like using the S9 performance pads. I wish the pioneer S9 would have a play button to play the tracks on serato DJ Pro software. It is Best to work with a controller that has everything you need on it and just work on the controller and not having to go back and forth. I am lazy to bring extra equipment to the club, but i found a solution. I had bought a hercules starlight dj conroller about a year ago shortly before the pandemic began and I used to use it venues I dj'd at before. Yes it is small and does have some limitations than the big dj controllers have. But it is good for small venues and especially when the dj booth at these venues are so small you cant fit a big dj controller in the booth. I have big controllers and small controllers other than Hercules Starlight controller. I have the old pioneer 4 channel dj controller for serato I forgot the model but its a few years old. I have the pioneer SP-1 sub controller, I have the Akai AMX/AFX for serato, I have the Xone K2, and I have the Denon MCX800 dj controller which I love to use but these venues are small with small dj booths. But first dj controller I ever started to dj with as far as controllers was the Allen & Heath Xone DX with itch. Now I am looking at the Roland 707M dj controller with serato. I've seen videos about it but I want to hear from the dj's that actually use the Roland 707M dj controller. I would love to use the MCX800 alot in my gigs, but like I said before some venues have small dj booths. I used to use the Akai AMX and the AFX together at my gigs, but seems Akai stopped continuing to release updates for their controller. Which by now leaves me with the Hercules Starlight DJ ccontroller.
I use Traktor, I love the look, the functions, I've recently been exploring another option because of the hardware, I've had the Z2 for 6 years and it's a little outdated, yes it's a beast, it just seems like Traktor is more concerned about producer's and not The DJ
I agree, to a certain extent. I think they are pretty visionary, though. They seem to be the first and the most comprehensive when it comes to finding a middle ground between dj and producer. Other software has been really slow to catch up, and where they have they still have limited functionality when it comes to live remixing and live dj/production capabilities. The only problem is is that these skills are hard, really high end, essentially 21st centuary turntablism, and not many people are really pushing it, but they will
The differences between packages are in the details: samplers, video control, dynamic beat-grids, stems, etc. If a DJ just wants to do AB mixing - and he/she can beatmatch by ear - then any DJ app will do. If a DJ wants to use live MIDI instruments, control a lightshow with video, all while beatmatching a 70s disco track with a progressive house track - not all DJ apps can do that.
WHat do you recommend "If a DJ wants to use live MIDI instruments, control a lightshow with video, all while beatmatching a 70s disco track with a progressive house track"... best controller/software? roland/serato?
Started on vinyl, then tried VDJ when it just came out, switched to Traktor and after that ended up switching again to serato. I really like the layout with Serato and for me serato dj pro’s effects (with fx expansion) are really good. Some would say that serato video isn’t decent enough,however personally i never had or have any problems
Started on VDJ on my laptop moved to a controller went onto serato, tried rekordbox but cannot turn off beat grids Denon had the solution adjust grids on the fly so currently with Denon never used tracktor. I guess it matters if you are a long-standing DJ maybe less so if you are a beginner.
I have used RB, and I prefer it for the waveforms. I just purchased the Rane twelve mk2’s along with the djm s7 so I am exploring a move to serato. We will see. If I can get the turntable controllers to work well with RB, I’m not switching though….
New to DJing and have tried VDJ, RB, and Denon (mostly as stand-alone). Pro's and con's to each, and I'm hardwarewith QUESTION: Building a large library with correct grids, cues, loops, etc is a lot of work. Does switching your library from one to another software work well enough? Or is anyone finding that they are locked into one software (or out of another) because of the library transfer? This would make a software agnostic person stuck... From what I see, Denon library does not import into RB for example, although maybe 3rd party software would do this.
Wondering what to do now Rane/Serato stopped support for sixty two and sixty four mixers I have. I think I should be able to use these with VirtualDj and traktor. Need to test both out. I believe VDJ supports serato timecodes so may try that before I buy traktor vinyls. Such a bitch move by Rane/serato.
I have used Traktor and serato for many years my primary set up is Z2, 2xX1, F1 they just work all are midi mappable for serato so versatile and audio selection works perfectly with Mac OS with any thing, even the original vestax vci 100 all analogue mixers and analogue mixing desks & audio interfaces 2/4/6/8 channels etc my secondary system uses serato dj pro with full expansion packs . great system I love it what it offers an alternative stems and the ability to add vdj content , but it has 1 major problem a lack of an interface with rane sl2/3/4 gone and the denon ds1 also discontinued it just won't integrate into a system the problem is drivers Mac OS and Serato DJ pro a perfect storm , unlike serato studio which has a good audio and midi interface dj pro has non even with the complete package midi and audio are missing and without another piece of primary hardware ie controller or mixer with serato no more than a stand alone laptop solution, this lack of versatility limits it's usability, as the use of all midi controllers are not supported the only options are a dj mono splitter cable for mono or a master output in my case using a apoggee duet no deck 1&2 so I can't mix on the Z2 which can be used as a stand alone analogue mixer. I feel that serato missed a trick here . the should have added the ability for audio and midi as another expansion pack or part of 3.0 it would be simple as they already have the software in serato studio? recommendations if you want to go down the serato route before you purchase the software buy a mixer which is serato compatible but check it is not discontinued and that the software drivers and Serato DJ pro software are also compatible with your computer it could easily be a very expensive error, industry standard ?
I am a traktor fan as it works so well with my gear, and it is what I learned on. Having tried Rekordbox and CDJs I didn't like the fiddly little screens.
what gear do you use with your traktor setup? Personally its my favorite DJ software I wish it was more up to date with the other software out there though.
@@DJKeo Hi - thanks for this discussion topic BTW. Currently NI S4 and F1 controllers running Traktor Pro 2 on MacBook Air OSx10.9.2 with 8 GB ram and solid state hard drive. Outboard QSC K10s and sub. Of the dozen or so DJs I know it is about 50/50 Traktor/Rekordbox. No one really talks about one versus the other we just do the gigs! On my home iMac I use Traktor 3.
I had played Virtual dj with just the computer keyboard with no one even notice. This is a very powerful software. Native hardware? At the end of the day controllers are just midi devices
the XDJ-XZ (And Prime 4) is not just a MIDI device, it also has an audio interface, and allows you to beatmatch without a laptop. I have NEVER seen a touring DJ performing at a festival using only a laptop (Except Pauly D).
I got the z2 for the feel of the mixer. Software doesn't matter for the majority of how I play. Serato while i play with other djs for the sake of easy change overs. And my ddj 1000 is rekordbox but I got it for the platters. (early adopter . the srt wasn't out yet.)
Moving from Rekordbox to Traktor...I will be using it with the Xone 96 mixer and two Traktor X1 controllers. I did watch another video of yours and had a question about how well Traktor analyzes keys? In your other video you said Traktor didn't do so well. So should I run all my music through that Mixed in Key program or does Traktor do well enough I can skip that step? Thanks any info would be great :)
I used Mixed in Key and found the results don't always import well into Traktor Pro 2 often the BPM assigned is incorrect in Traktor after MIK analysis. Also REALLY ANNOYING you have to be online to use MIK. MIK is a helpful tool but not bolted down reliable.
I started with Vinyl then Serato because everyone was using it. I use Rekordbox now because software compatibility is too finicky and Rekordbox can play without a laptop.
I have a big thing agaist Rekordbox. It does not support pendrives with NTFS or exFAT ... so I'm limited to 32 GBs and all my pendrives are 64 GBs or up.
I started with Serato Scratch Live! Because you dont have to buy a powerful PC / Mac to use it...and after some years you dont change toooooo much to do hahahahaahah VINYL is still KING ;-) but Serato made me make money with djing....
Rekordbox because 1- hardware unlocked for my ddj-rr 2- 3 band EQ waveform is the shit 3- phrase detection is 98% perfect and helps rapidly know if it's 8/16/24 BARs phrase coming up
I think first of all, it's all in the name. everything else are just minor details like, what software came with the controller and, Probably what a DJ is used to, and maybe lastly it's the aesthetics. Me, I use Djuced :)
LIke you, I am pretty much software-agnostic. I actually switch between Traktor and Serato as I think Traktor is better for control vinyl and Serato is better with Phase (at this point in time) . I tried Virtual DJ 2020 for a weeks on a Z2.........the software was "ok" but there was just way too much cut-lag on the cross-fader and VDJ support could not help me to get it to cut like it does on Traktor or Serato. I've yet to try Rekordbox.
I just bought a DDJ 1000 and find out it has a bloody subscription plan so will be returning it but I love the damn thing but hate the subscription shit
DDJ 1000 should have unlocked Rekordbox 6 that seems odd. I agree with the subscription thing it bothers me and it is only going to get worse everybody is going that model in the future.
@@DJKeo yeah it’s unlocked the performance mode but the DVS is locked and you have to pay a subscription or buy a DDJ xp2 or xp1 to unlock it it cost £299 which I don’t need I have push 2 manchineel jam and plus, lunchpad pro which all of them can be used as a midi controller so it would be a waste of money and space to get that thing
Greetings. I'm new to the game. I'm getting my feet wet. I started with Mixxx open source software. Now I'm looking to upgrade, and brought me to this video. My 2 choices are Traktor for the price, or Serato because that's what my controller ships with. Leaning towards Traktor.
Vinyl is too heavy 😀 I love my Denon X600 but it required an SL2,3 or 4 for me to use Serato and I didn't mind but it became easier to just run a cable from my mixer to my laptop and Serato is supported through the mixer...
Any DJ software that can work for me in real time is the winner. Not a lame duck that does little or nothing for you while you are on your toes. So to this end the Ai that VDJ and DJ Pro offers is great but I still go for Rekordbox because of the usefulness of the ''related tracks feature''. Serato is great for its simplicity but unfortunately it lags behind when it comes to this.
I like Serato, hands down. Serato's alga rhythm makes music sound best. The Video Plugin for Serato is not good. I bought the video for Serato and it didn't play all of my MP4 Video Files. I contacted Serato about the issue and they suggested I reformatted my MP4s to M4V. I have over 2,000 videos and I didn't want to go through the reformatting. VirtualDJ plays every video and the features from VDJ are easier to use than Serato. So, I use Serato when I only play audio and I use VDJ when playing videos. Serato sounds better, VDJ plays it all plus adds more features. When I stream with video, I use VDJ. When I play audio only, I use Serato.
I really enjoy anything vdj versus, I like serato, because in a club the settings matter, but I love vdj it's all around,I'm not going to switch software every time something comes out, you want to make money not spend money, serato will 30 $ you to death, I paid maybe 199 for vdj 15 years and have not paid since ,traktor does not read all machines, but I own all of the software
@@Carteblanche007 Denon is software built in too. Regualess I’m never going back to computers to dj. I had my share of crashes during live gigs. Screw that!!
IMO software and hardware does not matter. If you can rock on CDJs, Tables or Controller then you are a DJ. The real DJ term is joke nowadays when it comes to referring to an artist that is rocking a party. However, if the software is selecting and mixing the music for you then your not a really DJing. I respect those that have mastered their craft and put in time practicing. Currently, I use Serato DJ with Technics, Phase and Rane 70. Most recently I got the Ortofon VNL (dope needles BTW) and I got them because I am tech nerd and gear a slut. Heck, I also own a Rane 12 and a bunch of old mixers. But for most gigs I am using a Pioneer Controller. I jump back and forth with using Traktor. Also, the industry standard changes much more frequently now and gear is only as good as DJ. Using VDJ, RekordBox, Serato, Engine Prime or whatever is a tool and just like construction workers you have to be skilled in your craft or you will only make unstable projects. I went from crates to Serato, Final Scratch, back to Serato, Traktor (I loved my Z2 and should not have sold it) and back to Serato. Going to try VDJ soon, if it is dope then I will continue to use it if not I always have my other software.
Serato just works. The only thing that holds back virtual DJ is its name. I’ve seen some great DJs use VDJ The name just strange up turn off. I feel I have to think to hard to use traktor 🚜.
I've played with Serato, Traktor, Algorithm Djay, and Virtual Dj.
Traktor seems the easiest...
Vdj .. What im familiar with. No complaints. Love that i can find songs very easily..i do think serato has the best layout
After messing around with both software and hardware, I found that Rekordbox DJ has worked the best for me. I feel like RB has the best color and beat FX compare to the other DJ software, and their controllers like the DDJ-RZ and RR Just does it for me. On the downside, it sucks that I can't use my controllers with other DJ software. Well, not with Serato, The RR can be used with VDJ and DJay Pro, but they just don't play well. I can't really speak in a more professional level since I do it more as a hobby, DJing on shoutcast with a small listening base or during house parties here and there while giving up on the mobile DJ thing since it turned out it wasn't the business I wanted to get into. But man, other DJs gave flack that I used RB instead of Serato, even worst showing up with a DDJ-400 connected to my iPhone using the DJay pro app, all because I just didn't want to carry heavier equipment with me to a party.
If you're using your own equipment, then it shouldn't matter. When I'm at parties or clubs listening to the music, I really don't think about the hardware. I think about the music being played, the mixing, the song selection and the order they play and honestly, that's what the crowd is thinking too. It matters if the DJ software is working with or against the DJ himself. Does it play well with their hardware. Does it have the features they need or want. Compatibility if they're working with other DJs or using club equipment. It's stuff to consider when figuring out what DJ software to use. But I also feel that picking a software just because it's industry standard or it impresses or to be accepted by other DJs is the wrong way to go. DJ in is about reading the crowd and setting the mood at a club, an event, or even at a small house or pool party. It's like what DJ Keo said and a lot of good DJs I know; at the core, all DJ software does the same thing.
VDJ is the minivan of dj software, yea it's sort of goofy looking, yea some give you shit for having it but if you want the most features, options and are secure in your own skin a minivan.....err VDJ is dope.
BTW I haul my gear around in a minivan too, so ladies....hit me up haha
The minivan! 😀😀😀 Right on point.
I can work with any hardware or software. However, for my style, I prefer VDJ and RB. I mixed music, fx, videos and DMX lights for mobile gigs. I give people a mini Vegas style club experience at private events and weddings at a much lower cost. Most of the time, I am a one man show, therefore, VDJ give me the most flexibility because I can play music, mix videos and control lights with Soundswitch. Unfortunately, the other software do not provide that level of flexibility, except RB, which you must use pioneer DMX interface exclusively.
When I started DJing, I used Virtual DJ. My reason was I didn't understand Rekordbox at the time. My 1st controller was the WEGO 4. When I upgrade to DDJ 400, my main purpose was to use and understand Rekordbox5. Not only use it for the 400, but I could also use it with Pro gear as well. For me, that was a game-changer. I learned how to analyze, select beat grids, place hot cues, and choose different colors FX. I upgraded to my current controller the DDJ 800. I purchase it in Nov 2019. In April 2020 Rekordbox 6 came out. The only issue with switching over was I had to re-analyze my entire library again along with adding my cue points. Once I got that done, it's been awesome ever since. I've wanted to upgrade to a Pioneer stand-alone but since the supply shortage and the price hike on DJ hardware, it has not been possible. I have been looking at Denon DJ hardware but they too have been dealing with supply shortage and price hikes. Their Prime 4 and Prime 2 are both out of my price range. I did notice Numark came out with a stand-alone that has the same Engine DJ software but at a price that will fit my budget. Plus, I don't have to replace my DDJ 800. The Mixstrem Pro looks at the system I plan on getting. Also, it will allow me to learn and grow with the Engine software as I did with Rekordox.
I use virtual DJ because of it compact ability to huge number of controllers and
It one time package for video, karaoke ects.
I use Virtual DJ because it came free with the controller. It might be a common reason why a certain software program would be picked.
Traktor for me. I like the look and the feel of the controllers.
True but all the Traktor controllers are garbage now, Compare the S4MK3 vs the Prime 4 or XDJ-XZ? No comparison. Traktor needs a new Mixer (Z4) and a full 4 deck standalone to actually compete.
Virtual DJ, customization, compatibility with many controllers, fast boot up, features,community and support.
plus interface
The S11 has had me move from traktor Z2 to serato. Traktor is uninspiring, Rekordbox has disappointed me from not being able to read ntfs external drives. VDJ I got mad respect for as a backup I'm looking to use more.
The Z2 showed the way forward. the S11 to me is the Z3 that I was waiting on.
I just got the new macbook pro so I'll give rekordbox another go, eventually.
great points, I think everybody was hoping native instruments with show some love to the z2.
Excellent comment 👍
Yeah I was on traktor for a long time and had a Z2 but then I bought a DJM S9. I was stick between rekordbox and Serato but then Rekordbox changed to subscription base ... So now I'm with Serato. 👍
The exact same as me! I've had my Z2 since day one and loved it and was on board with Traktor before that, using a Vestax PMC 05Pro4 with the built in midi buttons. I even used Serato prior to all that when it was SSL back when I used to do weddings. I've had a break from DJn the last few years as I kinda lost inspiration due to the current state of music BUT felt the urge to get back on the decks since about 6 weeks ago. So I went to see what was new and what's changed with Traktor and NI in terms of hardware and software in the time that I had off...and basically nothing new at all. No new mixers since the 8 years since the Z2 came out from NI. I got my hands on the S11 not just a few days ago, the 1st day was somewhat frustrating as I couldn't find my fav features that I used in my mixing style that was on the Z2, but I ended up finding them thank God. Im still learning everything on the S11...and there's a heck of a lot. The few little probs that Ive had so far have only been a quick google search and was usually a very quick and simple fix. I agree 100% the S11 is the Z3 that we've all been waiting for. The more Im using Serato the more Im growing to love it. What Im loving about the S11 so far is that its basically a Z2 and F1 controller in one unit. My style of DJn is live remixing so this is perfect for me. I still got mad love for Traktor but with lack of support it seems like it may be a slowly sinking ship. I don't think I'll ever sell my Z2, I may have a Traktor set up put to the side just to pay homage and for memories sake.
I also like traktor visuals . Waveforms look much nicer and it is important when playing with new songs. Also find the auto beat grid is also much better than serato meaning less admin to do. The only thing that grinds me with traktor is the effects. They sound so much better than other software and much more adjustable but the controls for them aren't as easy. NI should bring out an intuative effects controller for instant gratification
Only quirk with serato is you set a folder outside or add music. It doesn't transfer automatically you have to make sure you manually do it yourself
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All of them have major flaws, which is why I'm using multiple, and whatever I feel like.
Serato:
- DVS is just bad on Windows. I mean bad, sometimes like 2005 DVS 1.0 bad.
- Shitty file compatibility.
- Oudated browser.
- Can't analyze songs without disconnecting hardware.
Traktor:
- Cue system is outdated.
- No flexible beat grids.
Rekordbox:
- DVS somewhat lacking, compared to Traktor, and especially Serato.
- You absolutely need certified (Pioneer) gear to use DVS.
- Horrible purchase options. Expensive.
Virtual DJ:
- Full package, but too much hand holding to the point I'm not even sure what I'm controlling myself.
- Ugly, and requires too much work to make it look decent and 'professional.'
- Very expensive.
I'd probably switch to Virtual DJ if it wasn't over 300€ for a one-time purchase.
Never in hell would I pay over 20€ a month for DJ software, especially at this time of uncertainty.
Searto dj pro
Interesting post - thanks for the info. But why do you say SDJ DVS is bad on Windows? What is the problem with it?
@@alphaza76 Getting audio glitching when scratching, poor sound quality in general compared to Rekordbox or Traktor. FLAC files don't work at all, etc.
Thx so much for the info!
I used DJay Pro and Serato and may start Rekordbox if I end up buying the Pioneer 800 this weekend. I start with gear first and use what its intended for.
Traktor remix deck a must for me. You can set a separate loop in traktor with out having to use a cue point. Sonically traktor sounds better. What missing now from traktor-pro-3 is more compatibility with with other gear.
I use rekordbox and I really don’t wanna switch cause I like a fully integrated experience lighting streaming everything but what kills me is the rane12 digital turntables I really wish they worked on rekordbox. I’ve considered sc6000m and 1850 but I feel like the software might not be ready yet
Thank you very much! A good counter for all the discussions for someone new to this.
I've used Serato Scratch Live, Traktor, and Serato, DJ. My favorite is Serato Scratch Live.
SSL is light, clean, stable, and it works well with even the cheapest of laptops. (2 Numark TTX turntables, a Rane TTM 56S mixer, and a Rane SL3 audio interface.)
With Serato v3.x, older hardware is now not supported and you will have to roll back which means you will lose stems.
The question for me is do i want to buy a new mixer every x many years. This has a similar ipad feeling of not being able to install apps, so you put it in a drawer and buy another.
Mobile events vdj, more backup options if shit goes wrong. Serato best workflow for straight sets.
I’ve been rocking VDJ for years now, combined with my Denon MCX8000. Definitely feel the software agnostic vibes, but for the small-mid sized events I do and my radio mixes I like VDJ’s recording function and customization. The support is lacking though, and the software definitely bugs out more than others, which is annoying
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I’m a newbie and I’ve been using Rekordbox with my DdJ 400 it’s the only software I know , so now I’m ready to upgrade. I was thinking Ddj 1000 only because of the software I’ve only used , but now Serato has Stems now I’m considering the 1000 Srt .
Very true
and Good Perspective 👍
I just want to let everyone know that switching to 1.5 speed on this video is amazing:)
I started with Serato, I'm cofortable with it, and all of my crates have been curated in Serato.... I have been debating ditching the laptop and going with Denon Prime gear and Engine, but am hesitant to switch. One biggie for me is because I love the Serato Sampler player feature and Denon's Engine Prime doesn't quite have something for that... also, I would still need a laptop if I want to use SoundSwitch. Hoping the mext gen of Engine software, and Prime gear, can run SoundSwitch on its own, and ads a Sample Player function similar to Serato. Aside from that, a standalone similar to the Prime 4, but with Serato built in, would be pretty sweet. Looking forward to what comes out now that it is NAMM season...
Do you know if rekordbox will have stems in the future or does it have it already??
I have the Z2, S9 and S11... I def like the Z2 better than the S9 but the S11 is by far the best mixer I've ever used
I find there’s more support for Traktor on the web too in terms of learning. I liked Serato too first learned on that but when I really wanted to learn along with midi mapping effects or expansions with maschine or even basic better djaying Traktor has more support... that said I’m leaning on getting rid of my laptop software and just do stand-alone. What would you recommend.
Hello my name is kevin, i used serato dj because I liked different types of music, and it's fun DJ at home so i do gigs at party, wedding ,and events.
Hi DJ Keo, nowadays I use the clubs equipment so I dont have to bring mine but I do bring my own controller. The club I currently dj at has a pioneer S9 for serato which has serato sound card built in it. So I can just plug and play without having to use my controller. Problem with that or for most dj's if they go this route is that whereever you place your laptop the play button is away from the pioneer S9. I am at times comfortable this way and at times im not 'cause I do like using the S9 performance pads. I wish the pioneer S9 would have a play button to play the tracks on serato DJ Pro software. It is Best to work with a controller that has everything you need on it and just work on the controller and not having to go back and forth. I am lazy to bring extra equipment to the club, but i found a solution. I had bought a hercules starlight dj conroller about a year ago shortly before the pandemic began and I used to use it venues I dj'd at before. Yes it is small and does have some limitations than the big dj controllers have. But it is good for small venues and especially when the dj booth at these venues are so small you cant fit a big dj controller in the booth.
I have big controllers and small controllers other than Hercules Starlight controller. I have the old pioneer 4 channel dj controller for serato I forgot the model but its a few years old. I have the pioneer SP-1 sub controller, I have the Akai AMX/AFX for serato, I have the Xone K2, and I have the Denon MCX800 dj controller which I love to use but these venues are small with small dj booths. But first dj controller I ever started to dj with as far as controllers was the Allen & Heath Xone DX with itch. Now I am looking at the Roland 707M dj controller with serato. I've seen videos about it but I want to hear from the dj's that actually use the Roland 707M dj controller. I would love to use the MCX800 alot in my gigs, but like I said before some venues have small dj booths. I used to use the Akai AMX and the AFX together at my gigs, but seems Akai stopped continuing to release updates for their controller. Which by now leaves me with the Hercules Starlight DJ ccontroller.
I use Traktor, I love the look, the functions, I've recently been exploring another option because of the hardware, I've had the Z2 for 6 years and it's a little outdated, yes it's a beast, it just seems like Traktor is more concerned about producer's and not The DJ
I agree, to a certain extent. I think they are pretty visionary, though. They seem to be the first and the most comprehensive when it comes to finding a middle ground between dj and producer. Other software has been really slow to catch up, and where they have they still have limited functionality when it comes to live remixing and live dj/production capabilities. The only problem is is that these skills are hard, really high end, essentially 21st centuary turntablism, and not many people are really pushing it, but they will
I use VDJ cos so far its the all in one i use for broadcast DJing will be trying Traktor pro 3 to see how good it is
The differences between packages are in the details: samplers, video control, dynamic beat-grids, stems, etc. If a DJ just wants to do AB mixing - and he/she can beatmatch by ear - then any DJ app will do. If a DJ wants to use live MIDI instruments, control a lightshow with video, all while beatmatching a 70s disco track with a progressive house track - not all DJ apps can do that.
WHat do you recommend "If a DJ wants to use live MIDI instruments, control a lightshow with video, all while beatmatching a 70s disco track with a progressive house track"... best controller/software? roland/serato?
Started on vinyl, then tried VDJ when it just came out, switched to Traktor and after that ended up switching again to serato. I really like the layout with Serato and for me serato dj pro’s effects (with fx expansion) are really good. Some would say that serato video isn’t decent enough,however personally i never had or have any problems
I use virtual dj with the traktor S3 it's a great combo and virtual dj supports it as a native controller.
Started on VDJ on my laptop moved to a controller went onto serato, tried rekordbox but cannot turn off beat grids Denon had the solution adjust grids on the fly so currently with Denon never used tracktor. I guess it matters if you are a long-standing DJ maybe less so if you are a beginner.
Serato is Corel Draw, Virtual DJ is Photo Shop and Traktor is Autocad.
Lmao I have never heard it put that way before
I have used RB, and I prefer it for the waveforms. I just purchased the Rane twelve mk2’s along with the djm s7 so I am exploring a move to serato. We will see.
If I can get the turntable controllers to work well with RB, I’m not switching though….
New to DJing and have tried VDJ, RB, and Denon (mostly as stand-alone). Pro's and con's to each, and I'm hardwarewith
QUESTION: Building a large library with correct grids, cues, loops, etc is a lot of work. Does switching your library from one to another software work well enough? Or is anyone finding that they are locked into one software (or out of another) because of the library transfer? This would make a software agnostic person stuck... From what I see, Denon library does not import into RB for example, although maybe 3rd party software would do this.
Wondering what to do now Rane/Serato stopped support for sixty two and sixty four mixers I have. I think I should be able to use these with VirtualDj and traktor. Need to test both out. I believe VDJ supports serato timecodes so may try that before I buy traktor vinyls. Such a bitch move by Rane/serato.
The look and the functionality. How big or small is there flaws.
I have used Traktor and serato for many years my primary set up is Z2, 2xX1, F1 they just work all are midi mappable for serato so versatile and audio selection works perfectly with Mac OS with any thing, even the original vestax vci 100 all analogue mixers and analogue mixing desks & audio interfaces 2/4/6/8 channels etc
my secondary system uses serato dj pro with full expansion packs . great system I love it what it offers an alternative stems and the ability to add vdj content , but it has 1 major problem a lack of an interface with rane sl2/3/4 gone and the denon ds1 also discontinued it just won't integrate into a system the problem is drivers Mac OS and Serato DJ pro a perfect storm , unlike serato studio which has a good audio and midi interface dj pro has non even with the complete package midi and audio are missing and without another piece of primary hardware ie controller or mixer with serato no more than a stand alone laptop solution, this lack of versatility limits it's usability, as the use of all midi controllers are not supported the only options are a dj mono splitter cable for mono or a master output in my case using a apoggee duet no deck 1&2 so I can't mix on the Z2 which can be used as a stand alone analogue mixer. I feel that serato missed a trick here . the should have added the ability for audio and midi as another expansion pack or part of 3.0 it would be simple as they already have the software in serato studio?
recommendations if you want to go down the serato route before you purchase the software buy a mixer which is serato compatible but check it is not discontinued and that the software drivers and Serato DJ pro software are also compatible with your computer it could easily be a very expensive error, industry standard ?
Only Virtual DJ gives me the ability to connect my Traktor S2 instantly and at the same time use streaming services like Tidal and Deezer. Awsome!
I am a traktor fan as it works so well with my gear, and it is what I learned on. Having tried Rekordbox and CDJs I didn't like the fiddly little screens.
what gear do you use with your traktor setup? Personally its my favorite DJ software I wish it was more up to date with the other software out there though.
@@DJKeo Hi - thanks for this discussion topic BTW. Currently NI S4 and F1 controllers running Traktor Pro 2 on MacBook Air OSx10.9.2 with 8 GB ram and solid state hard drive. Outboard QSC K10s and sub. Of the dozen or so DJs I know it is about 50/50 Traktor/Rekordbox. No one really talks about one versus the other we just do the gigs! On my home iMac I use Traktor 3.
I use rekordbox 5 because of the memory cues and music organisation and tagging
Traktor has the best sound for sure but i use Serato for the most part.
I had played Virtual dj with just the computer keyboard with no one even notice. This is a very powerful software. Native hardware? At the end of the day controllers are just midi devices
the XDJ-XZ (And Prime 4) is not just a MIDI device, it also has an audio interface, and allows you to beatmatch without a laptop. I have NEVER seen a touring DJ performing at a festival using only a laptop (Except Pauly D).
@@alfreddawson3765 post doest include standalone but good point
I got the z2 for the feel of the mixer. Software doesn't matter for the majority of how I play. Serato while i play with other djs for the sake of easy change overs. And my ddj 1000 is rekordbox but I got it for the platters. (early adopter . the srt wasn't out yet.)
Moving from Rekordbox to Traktor...I will be using it with the Xone 96 mixer and two Traktor X1 controllers. I did watch another video of yours and had a question about how well Traktor analyzes keys? In your other video you said Traktor didn't do so well. So should I run all my music through that Mixed in Key program or does Traktor do well enough I can skip that step? Thanks any info would be great :)
Long time Traktor Pro user, since 1.2.7, and I think you'll be better off using MIK for song key analysis.
@@djsubculture2111 Ok thank you for the advice.
I used Mixed in Key and found the results don't always import well into Traktor Pro 2 often the BPM assigned is incorrect in Traktor after MIK analysis. Also REALLY ANNOYING you have to be online to use MIK. MIK is a helpful tool but not bolted down reliable.
I started with Vinyl then Serato because everyone was using it. I use Rekordbox now because software compatibility is too finicky and Rekordbox can play without a laptop.
I have a big thing agaist Rekordbox. It does not support pendrives with NTFS or exFAT ... so I'm limited to 32 GBs and all my pendrives are 64 GBs or up.
I agree with u 100%
I started with Serato Scratch Live! Because you dont have to buy a powerful PC / Mac to use it...and after some years you dont change toooooo much to do hahahahaahah
VINYL is still KING ;-) but Serato made me make money with djing....
Rekordbox because
1- hardware unlocked for my ddj-rr
2- 3 band EQ waveform is the shit
3- phrase detection is 98% perfect and helps rapidly know if it's 8/16/24 BARs phrase coming up
I think first of all, it's all in the name. everything else are just minor details like, what software came with the controller and, Probably what a DJ is used to, and maybe lastly it's the aesthetics. Me, I use Djuced :)
what made you choose DJuced?
@@DJKeo it came free with the controller I bought. Hercules Dj Inpulse 200
@@JohnLumapaskeith have you tried any of the other dj software
@@DJKeo I've tried Traktor, Serato dj Pro, Algo Djay and VDJ.
@@JohnLumapaskeith And DJuced measures up well/favorably to all those other softwares?!
VIRTUAL DJ AND SERATO THE BEST
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LIke you, I am pretty much software-agnostic. I actually switch between Traktor and Serato as I think Traktor is better for control vinyl and Serato is better with Phase (at this point in time) . I tried Virtual DJ 2020 for a weeks on a Z2.........the software was "ok" but there was just way too much cut-lag on the cross-fader and VDJ support could not help me to get it to cut like it does on Traktor or Serato. I've yet to try Rekordbox.
I just bought a DDJ 1000 and find out it has a bloody subscription plan so will be returning it but I love the damn thing but hate the subscription shit
DDJ 1000 should have unlocked Rekordbox 6 that seems odd. I agree with the subscription thing it bothers me and it is only going to get worse everybody is going that model in the future.
@@DJKeo yeah it’s unlocked the performance mode but the DVS is locked and you have to pay a subscription or buy a DDJ xp2 or xp1 to unlock it it cost £299 which I don’t need I have push 2 manchineel jam and plus, lunchpad pro which all of them can be used as a midi controller so it would be a waste of money and space to get that thing
Greetings. I'm new to the game. I'm getting my feet wet. I started with Mixxx open source software. Now I'm looking to upgrade, and brought me to this video. My 2 choices are Traktor for the price, or Serato because that's what my controller ships with. Leaning towards Traktor.
Always go with what works naturally with your dj hardware never try to force something it wasn't designed for. You will have a miserable experience.
Vinyl is too heavy 😀
I love my Denon X600 but it required an SL2,3 or 4 for me to use Serato and I didn't mind but it became easier to just run a cable from my mixer to my laptop and Serato is supported through the mixer...
I use rekordbox but I can use any if I had too, so that are all the same
How can you say Virtual DJ doesn't work as good as something that's native when you said that you never used Virtual DJ.
you misunderstood my point, I've used it enough to know there is no high end gear designed to take advantage of all of its features which is a fact.
Any DJ software that can work for me in real time is the winner. Not a lame duck that does little or nothing for you while you are on your toes. So to this end the Ai that VDJ and DJ Pro offers is great but I still go for Rekordbox because of the usefulness of the ''related tracks feature''. Serato is great for its simplicity but unfortunately it lags behind when it comes to this.
I like Serato, hands down. Serato's alga rhythm makes music sound best. The Video Plugin for Serato is not good. I bought the video for Serato and it didn't play all of my MP4 Video Files. I contacted Serato about the issue and they suggested I reformatted my MP4s to M4V. I have over 2,000 videos and I didn't want to go through the reformatting. VirtualDJ plays every video and the features from VDJ are easier to use than Serato. So, I use Serato when I only play audio and I use VDJ when playing videos. Serato sounds better, VDJ plays it all plus adds more features. When I stream with video, I use VDJ. When I play audio only, I use Serato.
Sound quality and Video
I really enjoy anything vdj versus, I like serato, because in a club the settings matter, but I love vdj it's all around,I'm not going to switch software every time something comes out, you want to make money not spend money, serato will 30 $ you to death, I paid maybe 199 for vdj 15 years and have not paid since ,traktor does not read all machines, but I own all of the software
thinking to move to Traktor or Serato I am heavily invested in NI stuff
do you have any gear outside of NI?
@@DJKeo Yeah just hardware synth and to MPC x and Live II and A Akia Force
The layout
Denon all day!!! No laptop!! It’s a faster set up and I have access to all my music and more.
He's talking about software ...lool
@@Carteblanche007 Denon is software built in too. Regualess I’m never going back to computers to dj. I had my share of crashes during live gigs. Screw that!!
@@bboymac84 owning the SC5000s and X1850 Denon has it's positives for sure but pound for pound VDJ destroys Denon.
@@chadnliz2k11 true but laptop can fail and you need a back up. I’m sticking with Denon
@@bboymac84 there's a computer in the Denon too. Just noting absolutely nothing is full proof. I love both
ENGINE DJ ✨🔥✨
IMO software and hardware does not matter. If you can rock on CDJs, Tables or Controller then you are a DJ. The real DJ term is joke nowadays when it comes to referring to an artist that is rocking a party. However, if the software is selecting and mixing the music for you then your not a really DJing. I respect those that have mastered their craft and put in time practicing. Currently, I use Serato DJ with Technics, Phase and Rane 70. Most recently I got the Ortofon VNL (dope needles BTW) and I got them because I am tech nerd and gear a slut. Heck, I also own a Rane 12 and a bunch of old mixers. But for most gigs I am using a Pioneer Controller. I jump back and forth with using Traktor. Also, the industry standard changes much more frequently now and gear is only as good as DJ. Using VDJ, RekordBox, Serato, Engine Prime or whatever is a tool and just like construction workers you have to be skilled in your craft or you will only make unstable projects. I went from crates to Serato, Final Scratch, back to Serato, Traktor (I loved my Z2 and should not have sold it) and back to Serato. Going to try VDJ soon, if it is dope then I will continue to use it if not I always have my other software.
Serato just works.
The only thing that holds back virtual DJ is its name. I’ve seen some great DJs use VDJ
The name just strange up turn off. I feel I have to think to hard to use traktor 🚜.
I don't see any problem with Virtual DJ's name. It's actually a DJ set but in software
remix decks
Rekordbox is Rubbish....
Depends on your dj style