Once Rekordbox was paired with Pioneer gear, passing Serato was inevitable. I wonder if Pioneer will eventually buy Serato? There are good things in Serato that Rekordbox can really use.
I was using rekordbox when I was in college alongside CDJS and as a prep software it was seriously onto something big but as soon as I started on traktor pro tho I took to that so quick probably due to having constant access to gear via my controller but seeing how much it's evolved is absolutely zero surprise it's taking over. Even after all that tho I'm still a traktor user at hearts and always will be
After 20 years, I made the switch this year from pure vinyl (no timecode) to dvs...and first tried serato and rekordbox. Both did what they should... then a month later my nephew recommended me vdj...and god damn...after using that, all those other stuff is just restricted toys. Not only has it shit like stems...but its mightiest feature is the full midi command script ability. With a single button push you can start whole script chains and set remembered parameters, the most simple thing you can do is fe you can add features like scratchbank or any fancy other shit to whatever controller or mixer you connect, that never were supposed to have that feature... script chains with parameters on the other hand...a whole different ball game if you know what you are doing...lightyears ahead of anything on the market.
I've used Rekordbox, Tracktor, VDJ and Serato. I even bought the hardware for Rekordbox and Traktor, each time I end up back with Serato. When you play out on a regular basis you need something that will fit your workflow and consistently work. VDJ is my backup software but Serato is my program of choice.
DJ KEO makes a solid point on the future of djing. I just want all the djs reading this take a second to analyze my next statement. First of all, I have both Serato and Rekordbox on my MacBook. But I use Serato all the time when I dj out. With that said, the reason I have Rekordbox is for what I see forthcoming in the future of djing. If Pioneer was able to go head to head with the Rane one with their Rev 7 controller. What is stopping Pioneer from taking the feedback from the Rev 7 & creating a Rev 9 with everything from the Rev 7 & including 9 inch moving platters with a waveform screen on the controller as well. Plus turning a song acapella like vdj. But to put the icing on the cake. It's stricly for Rekordbox users🤔🤔🤣. That's my two cents, to all my Dj brothers & sisters. Keep the Dj community going strong and positive. Until the next🎧🎤
As a guy who’s been in the marked for digital DJ’s since Stanton final scratch, and as I look across the room at my pioneer Dj gear with Serato printed right on the front of it, the actual software you use is not even an issue anymore. One has this effect on this piece of equipment and the other has this knob on this specific piece of equipment….it all works, right? All love.
RB is more advanced than serato, but rb got some issues I cant get past and I'm not a fan of the subscription model. Vdj for me... no issues at all and way more options in to personalizing the software for my workflow on any hardware.
So I started DJing last year from scratch. And after some research, I chose to go all in on Pioneer ecosystem and Rekordbox. Since that I did a bunch of gigs and events on my gear and on club gear (CDJ's) and Im very happy with past me who chose Rekordbox. First, the price is 0, for someone starting out and maybe not even sure its going to be a thing in his life in the future, getting a free software is nice. Plugin mess.. You basically get a pro version, yes there is an upgrade, but you really dont need it and dont need to worry about this and that plugin. You install and you basically ready to go. Seamless integration with club gear. As a noob performing the first couple times is scary, so you want to minimize the unknown's and friction to a minimum. So stick preparation, settings, export etc for a club gig is so easy and smooth its a joy, plus you feel right at home on the CDJ's menus from the get go. Also its seems that Pioneer is going forward hard with this so more and more future gear will be Rekordbox only As a software, It pretty much does the same and in a reliable way (never had one crush, not home and not during an event). There are some fancy features that are only on Rekordbox, related with performance pad mapping and some stuff around samples (not using these yet). So for someone like me who is aiming for club gigs (which is 100% on Pioneer gear in my country) Its an obvious choice looking forward. At the end of the day, both of these softwares do the job great but I feel Rekordbox helps you reduce friction in some areas and focus on the important things - music. Just wanted to share my experience as most of what I read about this topic is coming from DJ veterans and mite be a bit misleading for someone that looking to start from scratch PS: If you are aiming to turntables and scratch battles, Rekordbox mite be not the right choice as alot of the gear is Serato only. PS2: All of the above is IMO so don't kill me :) Hope this will be helpful for someone
@ Hehe Im on Earth.. Serato light is very lacking, and far from Rekordbox (basic version).. But yea, sure, long live.. Best of luck
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@@eli-shulga i just find it funny you think it's free , you have to own a controller for it , that's not free , and if you think pioneer won't introduce paid subscription your going to get an unpleasant surprise, nothing is free learn that
I havent used rekordboxDj but I wanted to try it out because i hear its better at analyzing songs that mix in key better than serato which as a beginner is crucial so that you get the feel on how to mix better. As well as a better file library Gui/crate making to organize your songs. However im currently using serato Pro since the controller I currently have numark platinum fx uses serato. Once I upgrade maybe i'll decide to use rekordbox. Although I really want that denon dj prime 4 but it only works with serato.
Hey Virtual DJ is the best, I have serato, RB, Dj pro AI, VDJ to me has more features, STEMS is #1 on my list, & its 100% stable all night long Plus VDJ is not forcing for subscription service
True! And on top of that VDJ works with all the gear that the other DJ SW vendors support -- COMBINED! So if a piece of gear works with either RB, SDJ, Traktor or Engine, there is a good chance it will work on VDJ too. So, therefore VDJ is the safest platform in which to build your library.
I will say I made the transition from vdj to rekordbox after getting the ddj 1000. Not only are exports to flash drive of music to play on cdjs way easier, but rekordbox has way better sound quality. It's like night and day..
Rekordbox is fantastic software especially for Library Management. It is built upon a database. Sadly most DJs are not very tech savvy both with audio gear and especially with Computers. Rekordbox/PioneerDJ should do themselves a favor two fold. A) Work on making the software more intuitive, and B) Produce more "How to" content in the social media sphere. My prediction of them gaining top spot was with the release of the DDJ 400. Not only is that a fantastic controller it comes with the full Rekordbox license which now is 'hardware' unlock with RB6. In the Rekordbox forums every month we saw new users as in new DJs and new Serato converts. The DDJ 400 was at the perfect price point for Serato DJs to dip their toe and once they could see the power they were hooked and converted.
Has Rekordbox DJ officially dethroned the King of DJ software Serato? Yes. The only thing that surprised me about it is that it didn't happen a couple of years ago
DJ Keo makes a great point. Remember, Pioneer was all in with Serato till they decide to create their own DJ software via Rekordbx. I know Denon saw the survey Digital DJ tips did and are in their lab right now to improve their DJ software. When Nu Music (not if) decde to focus solely on the Engine DJ (i.e Numark Mixstream Pro), Serato may be ripe for Pioneer to purchase them. We as DJs have to watch and see how thing folds in 2022 and beyond.
I'm late to game here seeing this video, but I will probably be going from Serato to Rekordbox fully in about 3-6 more months. I regularly export my playlists to USB so I can play at bars/clubs/lounges as they have CDJ's. I'll also be switching over to the DDJ-1000 so I'll have the best of the mobile dj and club setup when I need to. Again, this just works for my needs. Everyone is different.
I have been working as a DJ since 2014 and never ever did I see someone using Serato. It always was Traktor and now it's Rekordbox. I'm from Spain tho.
You may have a point about DJs being sheep. I like both serato and rekordbox. I went to VDJ for my current setup because I'm including some really tricky things in my streams that require video and stems and VDJ just makes it possible.
All Dj softwares are good enough if you just want to mix straight up…. No need for fancy effects to cover any train wrecks when mixing... Never needed Sync buttons or waveforms to mix. So for me any gear or software that is accurate with zero latency I’m good with. I don’t care who’s #1.
am I crazy? one reason I don't fw Rekordbox is bc of the pitch FX. even VDJ does it better. I want the knob at 12 o clock to be reg pitch... turn the knob left to pitch down and turn right to pitch up. Rekordbox does this weird thing where 12 o clock starts at like 25% pitched down for example. if I'm doing something wrong please correct me. Pitching up n down with a knob is a big part of my style Nd I have to click around way too much on rekordbox to do that ♥
Serato's downfall is also that they dont have a way to have djs use a usb flash drive instead of a laptop. Alot of us don't bring laptops to dj. Especially in festivals and guest dj spots.
Serato should try to port or create a full fledged ipad app with most importantly full DVS support, to become the first ipad app truly capable of such features. Once they become the go to mobile app they then can both reel in younger future dj's thanks to affordability and as you pointed out product placements. This would also allow them to potentially claw back some of that new found standerlone market whom have switch to prime's and RX's. To take on standerlone units all they would need is R&D in to something like a reloop buddy which would make the serato option between half the price or a full $800 cheaper then standerlone units.
That app is called DjPlayer Pro and it has been doing DVS feom 10 years ago. The problem isn’t Serato going iPad, it’s djs rejectimg iPads over a decade and market shifting from long ago. Djing with laptops isn’t reliable at all and Pioneer first attacked “controllers” but (after NI rejecting partner with them) understood they need a “Dj software” to cut its dependency on them. Buy Rekordbox prototype to Mixvibes guys (a flava version) and there were the first “victim”, then keep working with Serato until killed Traktor (btw NI helped abandoning the pro market due the shift) and keep growing until now… Serato still has value but after Rane split (and after Traktor fails) Pioneer got (once again) the deFacto standard for clubbing… the bad news are there wasn’t clubbing for over 2 years but streaming (the market shift was going on, pandemics just accelerated it) and this new trend doesn’t requires Cdj3000… just a controller or standalone… Pioneer are the only one to fulfill every segment of the whole process. Rekordbox is still worst than Serato but the whole proposal is more appealing to everyone. That’s why they released Rev controller and scratch mixers. Pioneer wants to be “everything” amd every day goes it’s near to accomplish that mission…
Stubborn DJs rejected streaming and the iPad, as if a laptop was used in the 70s-90s. Not like they are still using vinyl or CDs either. They will be late to the show as usual.
I use Serato, RB and more frequently lately Djay AI, stems are awesome rock solid beat matching even on Disco tracks, RB waveforms are the best in class with the whole track laid out in front of you, intro, outro and bridge etc, that is next level, would love those waveforms on Djay pro and i would be happy.
I miss the old Serato Scratchlive..Even Serato Itch for controllers felt like a better program. It was functional and straight to the point. The Serato Development team has no intention of making Serato Pro more efficient.
That survey is really surprising; I work professionally as a DJ in a large city and I don't know a single open format DJ that uses Rekordbox DJ over Serato...I wonder how the numbers would be different if they split up the survey into rekordbox used as music management software for loading onto flash drives and rekordbox DJ itself; I bet it would paint a very different picture.
I think the survey shows that Pioneer and Rekordbox DJ have made serious inroads to the brand new DJs market and pealed away alot of professionals with new gear and features. If you broke it down by pros vs amateurs I think it depends on what type of music they play. Open format DJs will tend to go with Serato because thats what everybody else is using but its the wild west for other genres like house music and Rekordbox is expanding their lead there. Most club and mobile/wedding DJs have stuck with Serato but I can tell you I read all my comments and over the years and alot of Serato DJs are fed up for various reasons and have switched or are ready to switch. Serato needs to take this seriously the mood is not good for them, and Pioneer is motivated with the money and resources to take over.
Serato has its faults like its heavy on your cpu especially when streaming live but when doing gigs with a decent computer its always been reliable.The only other gripe is that its feature set has not had much significant change for some time and we are in the days of stemming which VDJ ,Traktor,and ADJ have all done and why is Serato video doing nothing.A decent stem function would really be cool
i started out on stanton... then i got a rx... so rekordBx was my new thing and serato was looking old... then i got more equip and and didnt like how rkbx was holding me back from switching around... then i got more prof gear... which was more optioned and had better options with serato... but i still stuck with rkbx... till they went subscription base and keys based and laptop device base... like come on... so now im a serato based with rkbx knowledge... thems stems is it.
I’m surprised it hadn’t happened sooner. I was on Traktor DJ Studio, playing out once or twice a week from 2002-2005, before dedicated DJ controllers were even available. (I used an Apple G4 PowerBook with video editing controllers to handle the MIDI.). When Traktor merged with Final Scratch, I couldn’t wait to get onboard with the new gear but it was terrible and useless in a live environment. I hopped over to Serato in 2005 when it was a simple program without the bloat it’s acquired. Despite some of the setup headaches, it was smooth and reliable. I never looked back to Traktor and that stupid track collection file that couldn’t handle punctuation in song titles. Serato was good to me and I’ve got my money’s worth out of a now-ancient DDJ-S1 many times over, but my ideal setup is DVS with 1200s or CDJs with HID control. But Rekordbox has always been convenient with just a USB drive and headphones, assuming venues have Pioneer CDJs in good shape. Exporting my tunes to USB on Rekordbox can be torturously slow. In the 21st century, when we can sync so much data to the cloud, why on earth does Rekordbox take forever to scan music for updates between your hard drive and USB? I still haven’t used Rekordbox as a DVS, but when it works, exporting to a USB drive and just swapping with other DJs is all so much smoother and user friendly with Rekordbox and I’ve probably been playing out exclusively with it since about 2015.
OH! I forgot if u dont like how VDJ looks on ur screen, VDJ comes with 100`s of different skins, today mine looks like Rekordbox, when i`m tired of RB i change the skin to Serato DJ pro so-on
Yes in bedrooms all over America. Me personally, I have not answered that survey in years. There are many djsnwho obviously do not answer that survey. Newer bedroom djsnwho frequent that site probably do though
I am a rekordbox and traktor user. I would hate to see Serato loose market share. Competition keeps vendors motivated to do better. One big player is bad news for the public. Imagine if you ever have to leave TH-cam? How many viable alternatives are there?
Rekordbox has been playing up for me lately I don’t know if it’s because Iv switch to a mac but all my tunes keep jumping up and down in tempo so il get my tracks beat matched then one will speed up and and throw the mix out. Any ideas ? I tried reanalysing the tracks and still have the same issue.
Clubs need CDJ 3000 with ether net cable. the nexus 2’s are just too slow!! Or just switch to Denon since you can get audio from WiFi. CDJ doesn’t have that feature sadly
I was never a big fan of Serato and their "business model". They have been ripping people off for way to much time, this is good news! I hope the first thing that goes out is that "Serato DJ Lite" scam... One brand that makes software and hardware is the way to go. I think it's time for In Music to make the Engine a fully fledged DJ software.
Pioneer literally ripping people off for way too much money. At least you can buy serato and you are done. You cant buy rekordboy anymore, only subscription based.
@@wu-higgs You just buy any pioneer controller and with it you unlock the full version, there is no "Lite" version. Much better choice than Serato imo.
@@fouskalini if you want to use DVS, you have to pay for it. If you want to stream your tracks, you have to pay for it. Really dont understand why would that be "better choice"
Its good especially the library organization part. everything else is on par at least with every other dj software. If they had anything lacking it would be using its DVS with vinyl its not as good as serato as far as responsiveness
The big selling point for me was getting RB with a pioneer controller. It came free with purchase. C'mon, "it's pioneer", been around for 80 years.... BUT, I hear serato rocks DVS better than RB... Still studying and figuring out next buying move?? Thanks for the info 👍😊
I have dvs for serato and rekordbox... Dvs works just as great on rekordbox... Plus with rekordbox u get lots of features included with hardware that u have to pay extra for in serato
I wish there was better portability between each different software. I use Serato with DVS a lot at home, but will use Rekordbox for CDJ gigs. It’s way too annoying to move libraries, playlists etc between different software.
I use itunes to keep track of all my music between different dj software that is probably the easiest method I can think of to keep everything organized
Serato will always be the OG, every other software company is literally just remaking what serato has already done. Rekordbox forces you to use it if you want to use cdjs so that’s gonna skew the numbers as well. Cue points, loops, beat jump, FX, what else is anyone gonna add?? You can make it prettier to look at but cmon….we hit the ceiling.
you dont know what you are talking about...serato is like apple for djs...totally restricted and made for users who know just the basics of how to use a computer, like where to turn it on and off^^ innovations during the last 10 years besides hid mode for phase...zero...while others pump out stuff like stems...and even make them calculate those live...
@@MilanFourTimesEight yeah of course, dvs has been dated back to 96 long before final scratch. Question is, why did final scratch fail while serato became top choice for djs? Stems and streaming tracks are the only new advancements I can think of off the top of my head, we can’t let the software get so advanced we won’t need a physical dj behind the decks is all I’m saying.
I think this is a future problem for Serato if the trends continue. like I said in the video down the line I think they will most likely leverage their gear to help increase their platform
@@DJKeo maybe but why haven't they done that already since they are the industry standard? I do agree with you...once InMusic gets that Engine software lined up and working...they will move away from Serato or even better, purchase Serato and use that platform to make Engine better
@@mike._.feliciano6782 Pioneer sells gear first maybe they thought the Rev was better suited for serato users who came from vinyl. I'm not sure just speculating at this point. I don't think there is any question they will start pushing Rekordbox more in the future to increase the lead. And if InMusic does the same that could be a perfect storm of bad news for Serato as we know it, they could very well be bought by inmusic and merged into engine prime. To be fair it is a bit of a long shot but it is possible.
Is it "sheep-like" to need to practice at home on a similar system that you see when you walk into the club? Have you ever toured in areas where there is zero standarization of the gear in any of the venues? How about dealing with the fact that the equipment rider on your contract doesn't mean anything when there are no pro-level rental companies on an island? For these reasons I embrace Pioneers monopolistic grip on our world and I don't freak out when it increases.
Currently their products don't overlap so it's a non issue because rane doesn't make standalone dj hardware but if engine makes the shift over to laptops it only makes sense inmusic would want all their brands supporting their dj software. I don't think they would 100% give up serato I think it would support both at least for now.
Serato really missed the opportunity during covid, when everyone was home, and wanting to become a DJ, people all over buying ddj 400s, all because it came with software, while serato equivalent sb3 only used Serato Lite..
I wouldn't put a lot of stock into the survey. People can actually answer it multiple times, and are encouraged to do so for more chances to win the dj gear
Serato is dependent on your computer, other companies hardware. Pioneer has its own software and hardware! Mac has its own DJ software and uses hardware from pioneer. Denon and Native instruments has their own hardware and software. Serato is out there with no boat. 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Your absolutely right Keo. Why should Pioneer as a manufacturer make THEIR equipment work better on Serato? Makes business sense. Also the fact that they got in to become the “industry standard” in clubs just made everything worse. If you want to dj in a club, you REALLY should be familiar with RB. What DENON should do is give large discounts to owners of clubs so they can become the “industry standard”
What about the Rev 1 and 7? Both are Serato only and they've been getting rave reviews? Before they came out, I would have agreed with you, but now I'm not so sure.
Serato should release an standalone host box for controllers&DVS/Phase (imagine Numark dashboard shape+audio interface) and it will be a success… but I’m screaming it since they discontinnued SSL… Denon Prime series are based on similar concept (prototype was done on raspberry pi) and maybe Denon could benefeit of Serato purchase as brand but probably not happenning. Another brand that could hit Pioneer is Behringer (stated they want to democratize the dj field time ago) and also open source projects could be a “thing” for the dj segment slice of antiPioneers… Software evolves fast than hardware and none of the Pioneer offerings has spleeter steam support… so there are “options” but not “will”. If VirtualDj goes iPad with Apple Silicon transition trend then we could get a winning horse. Reloop Touch was a warning…
Serato is in trouble. InMusic forced me to move over to Traktor. I had to upgrade to a new Mac. My Numark NS7II and my Rane 62 nolonger work. InMusic also discontinued the Rane sl and the Denon ds1 audio interface. I not going to buy a new mixer or controller just to use Serato. I don't know what Pioneer is up to? Their Interface 2 has been on backorder for almost a year and I am not going to pay for a subscription. I have owned Traktor forever and I paid the 49.00 to upgrade. I can use any audio interface I want.
Not really surprising on the major trends. Are the relative movements in Rekordbox / Serato real? I’m a Traktor user and have been thinking about a DDJ-400 with RB just to fiddle around with it. A good number of my DJ friends are in the Traktor/Rekordbox universe, switching back and forth depending on how much “controller-ism” they want to use in a set or session. Serato’s missteps on updates and direction have made people more leery of the platform, for the same reason that Traktor lost marketshare. I suspect the general trend is real. Most of the Serato users I know play one song at a time. The whole song. And they play another. Without mixing in between. On Pioneer or Numark equipment. Why put up with the hassle of mixed equipment/software when RB can do all of that on a cheap $300USD controller? InMusic may have bought their first couple percent of the market with the “it can’t be that cheap” SC5000 / X1800 release deal, but the additional growth is on a solid platform making incremental gains in price and performance. They made their impressive launch by taking the most popular features in controllers and making them part of a stand alone system. Smart Marketing. But very little of the flexibility that made controllers the incubators of new art/tech. Is that enough to make it into double-digits? What if they finally port it to a mobile device and let you add your own controller? And customized mappings? I suspect that combination would relegate Serato to Traktor-land, having once been a major player, now holding via an ever-diminishing loyal fan-base that hangs in there for reasons that sound logical, but are more emotional than anything else. I honestly don’t know what’s up with VirtualDJ. On specs and features alone, they should be killing it. But I can’t count how many times I’ve installed it and tried it out, only to delete it later on. And if I’m running computer only for a backyard event - I usually just pull up a streaming service playlist instead. Evidently I’m not alone.
Good points all around and yes serato is definitely trending downwards this has been years in the making. I think they are going to need a major upgrade and soon to stop the bleeding but there is nothing they can do about the hardware because they are so dependent on pioneer and inmusic.
I left serato after 10 years for rekordbox when they dropped rane dvs support. I bought rekordbox dvs and surprised how good it is. You also get more features included that cost extra in serato I. E. Key sync... I think serato are going to be in big trouble if they don't support more hardware
Is Serato the king of DVS? I thought it'd be Traktor for supporting universal audio., Richie Hawtin, Carl Craig, Felix da Housecat all switched from Serato to Traktor and prolly to Rekordbox now.
@@DJKeo Yeah & the survey numbers seem to show that Serato is still somehow more popular than even Traktor. HOWEVER the only people I see these days still using SSL are turntablists, hip-hoppers & those who do awful top 40 mash ups that don't usually work. In other words, people who haven't had the right yet to call themselves "DJs". I wonder what the numbers would look like if the survey only looked at electronic musicians (i.e. real DJs).
It depends on the genre of music you are playing and your style of djing, there are benefits to each dj software but I wouldn't say one is better than the other
@@DJKeo well, now that I’ve attempted to jump into the world of DVS with my first turntable, I’m really not appreciative of how hard Pioneer DVS system is locked behind hardware purchases….so yeah. It’s looking like I’m about to actually switch to Serato 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I already own 2 audio interfaces but Rekordbox still makes me have to run a second special interface, or DOWNGRADE my platter to the PLX 500 (or $1000+ mixer) just so Rekordbox control vinyl works….no thanks buddy
I actually switched from rekordbox to serato. Better DVS experience IMO. I'll still use rekordbox to export a thumb drive every now and then, but that's about it.
The sad thing for Serato is that they haven't been innovative to bring anything new to the table. They still have their same EFX packs, which are all boring in comparison to what Pioneer offers. One thing i do like about Serato though, is it's simplicity. I've been using Serato for 10yrs, but wouldn't mind switching to Rekordbox if i was to purchase new hardware & it comes with Rekordbox.
I've been on RB since 2013 and been using CDJ's. RB is much better than Serato cause 99.9%. All possible clubs and venues have Pioneer gear and 99.9% start-up DJ's begin on RB. As Keo said himself. Traktor, Denon, Rane & Pioneer have their own gear. Serato doesn't....i mean they do but they're mostly controllers, was talking about standalone. The only way serato mixers work if they collab with Rane or Pioneer *which happened many many time* but RB DVS is for me personally really solid, but it's stupid that you need to find INTERFACE2 or a specific DJM that supports DVS
If Pioneer allow other brands to make kit for Rekordbox, it will kill the rest. Hopefully Serato will step up their game. Pioneer have been lazy as it is with the features on their top end kit. Keep offering for life licences will be one plus for Serato, which many Rekordbox users aren’t happy about. I’d be interested to see how that affects things going forward.
Yea I'm soon back to Serato. Rekordbox just ain't working for me :( ...The software is just a mess to use, been using Serato but when they discontinue SL3 I moved to Rekordbox and even bought DDJ 800 for it :( but the software is just not good like Serato.
Rekordbox is amazing But some features on serato are hard to let go when u are used to it And moving from serato to Rekordbox after soooo many years of creats arrangements and all seems not worth it at the moment even though there are some features that are inviting on Rekordbox
Rekordbox is rubbish. Not only is it an utter system hog, it has always been, and continues to be, full of bugs and bs coding. Pioneer DJ is proof in itself that being the most popular does not require you to be the best
Once Rekordbox was paired with Pioneer gear, passing Serato was inevitable. I wonder if Pioneer will eventually buy Serato? There are good things in Serato that Rekordbox can really use.
Is this Tom T from Detroit? I think I know you!
@@priyonjoni indeed it is. Good to hear from you brother! Hope all is well.
They can't afford it its linked to allen and heath, petetong owns shares in that
Then we can call it SeratoBoxxx!!
Rekordbox is a full feature dj software and free. But serato is paid.
I was using rekordbox when I was in college alongside CDJS and as a prep software it was seriously onto something big but as soon as I started on traktor pro tho I took to that so quick probably due to having constant access to gear via my controller but seeing how much it's evolved is absolutely zero surprise it's taking over.
Even after all that tho I'm still a traktor user at hearts and always will be
Man I like your videos ! Keep em’ coming !
After 20 years, I made the switch this year from pure vinyl (no timecode) to dvs...and first tried serato and rekordbox. Both did what they should...
then a month later my nephew recommended me vdj...and god damn...after using that, all those other stuff is just restricted toys.
Not only has it shit like stems...but its mightiest feature is the full midi command script ability. With a single button push you can start whole script chains and set remembered parameters, the most simple thing you can do is fe you can add features like scratchbank or any fancy other shit to whatever controller or mixer you connect, that never were supposed to have that feature...
script chains with parameters on the other hand...a whole different ball game if you know what you are doing...lightyears ahead of anything on the market.
I've used Rekordbox, Tracktor, VDJ and Serato. I even bought the hardware for Rekordbox and Traktor, each time I end up back with Serato. When you play out on a regular basis you need something that will fit your workflow and consistently work. VDJ is my backup software but Serato is my program of choice.
DJ KEO makes a solid point on the future of djing. I just want all the djs reading this take a second to analyze my next statement. First of all, I have both Serato and Rekordbox on my MacBook. But I use Serato all the time when I dj out. With that said, the reason I have Rekordbox is for what I see forthcoming in the future of djing. If Pioneer was able to go head to head with the Rane one with their Rev 7 controller. What is stopping Pioneer from taking the feedback from the Rev 7 & creating a Rev 9 with everything from the Rev 7 & including 9 inch moving platters with a waveform screen on the controller as well. Plus turning a song acapella like vdj. But to put the icing on the cake. It's stricly for Rekordbox users🤔🤔🤣.
That's my two cents, to all my Dj brothers & sisters. Keep the Dj community going strong and positive. Until the next🎧🎤
I'm thinking of buying a Pioneer DDJ 400, do I now have to pay for Rekordbox if I do?
great food for thought here, +1 sub my guy
As a guy who’s been in the marked for digital DJ’s since Stanton final scratch, and as I look across the room at my pioneer Dj gear with Serato printed right on the front of it, the actual software you use is not even an issue anymore. One has this effect on this piece of equipment and the other has this knob on this specific piece of equipment….it all works, right? All love.
RB is more advanced than serato, but rb got some issues I cant get past and I'm not a fan of the subscription model.
Vdj for me... no issues at all and way more options in to personalizing the software for my workflow on any hardware.
So I started DJing last year from scratch.
And after some research, I chose to go all in on Pioneer ecosystem and Rekordbox.
Since that I did a bunch of gigs and events on my gear and on club gear (CDJ's) and Im very happy with past me
who chose Rekordbox.
First, the price is 0, for someone starting out and maybe not even sure its going to be a thing in his life in the future,
getting a free software is nice.
Plugin mess.. You basically get a pro version, yes there is an upgrade, but you really dont need it and dont need to worry
about this and that plugin. You install and you basically ready to go.
Seamless integration with club gear. As a noob performing the first couple times is scary, so you want to minimize the unknown's
and friction to a minimum. So stick preparation, settings, export etc for a club gig is so easy and smooth its a joy, plus you feel right
at home on the CDJ's menus from the get go.
Also its seems that Pioneer is going forward hard with this so more and more future gear will be Rekordbox only
As a software, It pretty much does the same and in a reliable way (never had one crush, not home and not during an event). There are some fancy features
that are only on Rekordbox, related with performance pad mapping and some stuff around samples (not using these yet).
So for someone like me who is aiming for club gigs (which is 100% on Pioneer gear in my country) Its an obvious choice looking
forward.
At the end of the day, both of these softwares do the job great but I feel Rekordbox helps you reduce friction in some areas and focus
on the important things - music.
Just wanted to share my experience as most of what I read about this topic is coming from DJ veterans and mite be
a bit misleading for someone that looking to start from scratch
PS: If you are aiming to turntables and scratch battles, Rekordbox mite be not the right choice as alot
of the gear is Serato only.
PS2: All of the above is IMO so don't kill me :)
Hope this will be helpful for someone
@ Hehe Im on Earth.. Serato light is very lacking, and far from Rekordbox (basic version).. But yea, sure, long live.. Best of luck
@@eli-shulga i just find it funny you think it's free , you have to own a controller for it , that's not free , and if you think pioneer won't introduce paid subscription your going to get an unpleasant surprise, nothing is free learn that
Unrelated comment! I truly wanted the return of analog mixers like formula sound, rodec etc.
Which of the two do you use and why
I havent used rekordboxDj but I wanted to try it out because i hear its better at analyzing songs that mix in key better than serato which as a beginner is crucial so that you get the feel on how to mix better. As well as a better file library Gui/crate making to organize your songs. However im currently using serato Pro since the controller I currently have numark platinum fx uses serato. Once I upgrade maybe i'll decide to use rekordbox. Although I really want that denon dj prime 4 but it only works with serato.
Hey Virtual DJ is the best, I have serato, RB, Dj pro AI, VDJ to me has more features, STEMS is #1 on my list, & its 100% stable all night long Plus VDJ is not forcing for subscription service
True! And on top of that VDJ works with all the gear that the other DJ SW vendors support -- COMBINED! So if a piece of gear works with either RB, SDJ, Traktor or Engine, there is a good chance it will work on VDJ too. So, therefore VDJ is the safest platform in which to build your library.
Virtual DJ's key lock is terrible.
I will say I made the transition from vdj to rekordbox after getting the ddj 1000.
Not only are exports to flash drive of music to play on cdjs way easier, but rekordbox has way better sound quality. It's like night and day..
This is a super informative peice! VDJ user here :D Really digging the Blue Jays shirt! Clean.
Rekordbox is fantastic software especially for Library Management. It is built upon a database. Sadly most DJs are not very tech savvy both with audio gear and especially with Computers. Rekordbox/PioneerDJ should do themselves a favor two fold. A) Work on making the software more intuitive, and B) Produce more "How to" content in the social media sphere.
My prediction of them gaining top spot was with the release of the DDJ 400. Not only is that a fantastic controller it comes with the full Rekordbox license which now is 'hardware' unlock with RB6. In the Rekordbox forums every month we saw new users as in new DJs and new Serato converts. The DDJ 400 was at the perfect price point for Serato DJs to dip their toe and once they could see the power they were hooked and converted.
I love this educated point of view. Awesome it was. Pioneer has the software to compliment their product. Hard to compete with.
Has Rekordbox DJ officially dethroned the King of DJ software Serato?
Yes. The only thing that surprised me about it is that it didn't happen a couple of years ago
To bedroom djs, yes. Virtual dj is king if you ask them people.
DJ Keo makes a great point. Remember, Pioneer was all in with Serato till they decide to create their own DJ software via Rekordbx. I know Denon saw the survey Digital DJ tips did and are in their lab right now to improve their DJ software. When Nu Music (not if) decde to focus solely on the Engine DJ (i.e Numark Mixstream Pro), Serato may be ripe for Pioneer to purchase them. We as DJs have to watch and see how thing folds in 2022 and beyond.
I'm late to game here seeing this video, but I will probably be going from Serato to Rekordbox fully in about 3-6 more months. I regularly export my playlists to USB so I can play at bars/clubs/lounges as they have CDJ's. I'll also be switching over to the DDJ-1000 so I'll have the best of the mobile dj and club setup when I need to. Again, this just works for my needs. Everyone is different.
I have been working as a DJ since 2014 and never ever did I see someone using Serato. It always was Traktor and now it's Rekordbox. I'm from Spain tho.
I think Serato has a huge foot hold in American but not so much around the world, thats interesting Traktor is still going strong around the world.
You may have a point about DJs being sheep. I like both serato and rekordbox. I went to VDJ for my current setup because I'm including some really tricky things in my streams that require video and stems and VDJ just makes it possible.
All Dj softwares are good enough if you just want to mix straight up…. No need for fancy effects to cover any train wrecks when mixing... Never needed Sync buttons or waveforms to mix. So for me any gear or software that is accurate with zero latency I’m good with. I don’t care who’s #1.
Fucken agree
i also agree. but just like gear changes, people change, so the flow is gonna go whatever way the market goes
am I crazy? one reason I don't fw Rekordbox is bc of the pitch FX. even VDJ does it better. I want the knob at 12 o clock to be reg pitch... turn the knob left to pitch down and turn right to pitch up. Rekordbox does this weird thing where 12 o clock starts at like 25% pitched down for example. if I'm doing something wrong please correct me. Pitching up n down with a knob is a big part of my style Nd I have to click around way too much on rekordbox to do that ♥
Serato's downfall is also that they dont have a way to have djs use a usb flash drive instead of a laptop. Alot of us don't bring laptops to dj. Especially in festivals and guest dj spots.
Serato should try to port or create a full fledged ipad app with most importantly full DVS support, to become the first ipad app truly capable of such features. Once they become the go to mobile app they then can both reel in younger future dj's thanks to affordability and as you pointed out product placements. This would also allow them to potentially claw back some of that new found standerlone market whom have switch to prime's and RX's. To take on standerlone units all they would need is R&D in to something like a reloop buddy which would make the serato option between half the price or a full $800 cheaper then standerlone units.
That app is called DjPlayer Pro and it has been doing DVS feom 10 years ago. The problem isn’t Serato going iPad, it’s djs rejectimg iPads over a decade and market shifting from long ago. Djing with laptops isn’t reliable at all and Pioneer first attacked “controllers” but (after NI rejecting partner with them) understood they need a “Dj software” to cut its dependency on them. Buy Rekordbox prototype to Mixvibes guys (a flava version) and there were the first “victim”, then keep working with Serato until killed Traktor (btw NI helped abandoning the pro market due the shift) and keep growing until now… Serato still has value but after Rane split (and after Traktor fails) Pioneer got (once again) the deFacto standard for clubbing… the bad news are there wasn’t clubbing for over 2 years but streaming (the market shift was going on, pandemics just accelerated it) and this new trend doesn’t requires Cdj3000… just a controller or standalone… Pioneer are the only one to fulfill every segment of the whole process. Rekordbox is still worst than Serato but the whole proposal is more appealing to everyone. That’s why they released Rev controller and scratch mixers. Pioneer wants to be “everything” amd every day goes it’s near to accomplish that mission…
Stubborn DJs rejected streaming and the iPad, as if a laptop was used in the 70s-90s. Not like they are still using vinyl or CDs either. They will be late to the show as usual.
Serato is fine for how basic and relatively stable it is, that's basically the only thing they got going.
If there could be a windows version of mix emergency vdj will have surpassed all those.
Is there a windows alternative for mix emergency?
I use Serato, RB and more frequently lately Djay AI, stems are awesome rock solid beat matching even on Disco tracks, RB waveforms are the best in class with the whole track laid out in front of you, intro, outro and bridge etc, that is next level, would love those waveforms on Djay pro and i would be happy.
How about engine dj on numark mixstream pro?
Serato forever!
I miss the old Serato Scratchlive..Even Serato Itch for controllers felt like a better program. It was functional and straight to the point. The Serato Development team has no intention of making Serato Pro more efficient.
That survey is really surprising; I work professionally as a DJ in a large city and I don't know a single open format DJ that uses Rekordbox DJ over Serato...I wonder how the numbers would be different if they split up the survey into rekordbox used as music management software for loading onto flash drives and rekordbox DJ itself; I bet it would paint a very different picture.
I think the survey shows that Pioneer and Rekordbox DJ have made serious inroads to the brand new DJs market and pealed away alot of professionals with new gear and features. If you broke it down by pros vs amateurs I think it depends on what type of music they play. Open format DJs will tend to go with Serato because thats what everybody else is using but its the wild west for other genres like house music and Rekordbox is expanding their lead there. Most club and mobile/wedding DJs have stuck with Serato but I can tell you I read all my comments and over the years and alot of Serato DJs are fed up for various reasons and have switched or are ready to switch.
Serato needs to take this seriously the mood is not good for them, and Pioneer is motivated with the money and resources to take over.
I use Serato DJ Pro to manage my library then use a cionversion software to make USB for whatever the gear the venue has.
Serato has its faults like its heavy on your cpu especially when streaming live but when doing gigs with a decent computer its always been reliable.The only other gripe is that its feature set has not had much significant change for some time and we are in the days of stemming which VDJ ,Traktor,and ADJ have all done and why is Serato video doing nothing.A decent stem function would really be cool
i started out on stanton... then i got a rx... so rekordBx was my new thing and serato was looking old... then i got more equip and and didnt like how rkbx was holding me back from switching around... then i got more prof gear... which was more optioned and had better options with serato... but i still stuck with rkbx... till they went subscription base and keys based and laptop device base... like come on... so now im a serato based with rkbx knowledge... thems stems is it.
I’m surprised it hadn’t happened sooner. I was on Traktor DJ Studio, playing out once or twice a week from 2002-2005, before dedicated DJ controllers were even available. (I used an Apple G4 PowerBook with video editing controllers to handle the MIDI.). When Traktor merged with Final Scratch, I couldn’t wait to get onboard with the new gear but it was terrible and useless in a live environment. I hopped over to Serato in 2005 when it was a simple program without the bloat it’s acquired. Despite some of the setup headaches, it was smooth and reliable. I never looked back to Traktor and that stupid track collection file that couldn’t handle punctuation in song titles. Serato was good to me and I’ve got my money’s worth out of a now-ancient DDJ-S1 many times over, but my ideal setup is DVS with 1200s or CDJs with HID control. But Rekordbox has always been convenient with just a USB drive and headphones, assuming venues have Pioneer CDJs in good shape. Exporting my tunes to USB on Rekordbox can be torturously slow. In the 21st century, when we can sync so much data to the cloud, why on earth does Rekordbox take forever to scan music for updates between your hard drive and USB?
I still haven’t used Rekordbox as a DVS, but when it works, exporting to a USB drive and just swapping with other DJs is all so much smoother and user friendly with Rekordbox and I’ve probably been playing out exclusively with it since about 2015.
i m working with all software but for me VDJ is the best
OH! I forgot if u dont like how VDJ looks on ur screen, VDJ comes with 100`s of different skins, today mine looks like Rekordbox, when i`m tired of RB i change the skin to Serato DJ pro so-on
Don't know so many Dj's are sleep on VDJ. They will all wake up one day like zombies
Yes in bedrooms all over America. Me personally, I have not answered that survey in years. There are many djsnwho obviously do not answer that survey. Newer bedroom djsnwho frequent that site probably do though
I use Rekordbox and Serato. Prefer Serato for the sound quality. Prefer Rekordbox for the file management and UI.
I am a rekordbox and traktor user. I would hate to see Serato loose market share. Competition keeps vendors motivated to do better. One big player is bad news for the public. Imagine if you ever have to leave TH-cam? How many viable alternatives are there?
Rekordbox has been playing up for me lately I don’t know if it’s because Iv switch to a mac but all my tunes keep jumping up and down in tempo so il get my tracks beat matched then one will speed up and and throw the mix out. Any ideas ? I tried reanalysing the tracks and still have the same issue.
Analyze the tracks normal not dynamic
By pioneer releasing the Rev 7, they revitalized serato.
Clubs need CDJ 3000 with ether net cable. the nexus 2’s are just too slow!! Or just switch to Denon since you can get audio from WiFi. CDJ doesn’t have that feature sadly
Whichever one is reliable with the least amount of latency is the one I will be playing with. For now I’m on serato
I love Serato clean appearance and its essential menus, but (IMHO) RB is far superior..
I was never a big fan of Serato and their "business model". They have been ripping people off for way to much time, this is good news! I hope the first thing that goes out is that "Serato DJ Lite" scam... One brand that makes software and hardware is the way to go. I think it's time for In Music to make the Engine a fully fledged DJ software.
Pioneer literally ripping people off for way too much money. At least you can buy serato and you are done. You cant buy rekordboy anymore, only subscription based.
@@wu-higgs You just buy any pioneer controller and with it you unlock the full version, there is no "Lite" version. Much better choice than Serato imo.
@@fouskalini if you want to use DVS, you have to pay for it. If you want to stream your tracks, you have to pay for it. Really dont understand why would that be "better choice"
Still have not used RB.
Its good especially the library organization part. everything else is on par at least with every other dj software. If they had anything lacking it would be using its DVS with vinyl its not as good as serato as far as responsiveness
The big selling point for me was getting RB with a pioneer controller. It came free with purchase. C'mon, "it's pioneer", been around for 80 years.... BUT, I hear serato rocks DVS better than RB...
Still studying and figuring out next buying move?? Thanks for the info 👍😊
I have dvs for serato and rekordbox... Dvs works just as great on rekordbox... Plus with rekordbox u get lots of features included with hardware that u have to pay extra for in serato
I wish there was better portability between each different software. I use Serato with DVS a lot at home, but will use Rekordbox for CDJ gigs. It’s way too annoying to move libraries, playlists etc between different software.
I use itunes to keep track of all my music between different dj software that is probably the easiest method I can think of to keep everything organized
Well the boxes are no longer supported, so what do expect.n
Serato will always be the OG, every other software company is literally just remaking what serato has already done.
Rekordbox forces you to use it if you want to use cdjs so that’s gonna skew the numbers as well.
Cue points, loops, beat jump, FX, what else is anyone gonna add?? You can make it prettier to look at but cmon….we hit the ceiling.
you dont know what you are talking about...serato is like apple for djs...totally restricted and made for users who know just the basics of how to use a computer, like where to turn it on and off^^
innovations during the last 10 years besides hid mode for phase...zero...while others pump out stuff like stems...and even make them calculate those live...
Did you ever hear about Final Scratch?
@@MilanFourTimesEight yeah of course, dvs has been dated back to 96 long before final scratch. Question is, why did final scratch fail while serato became top choice for djs?
Stems and streaming tracks are the only new advancements I can think of off the top of my head, we can’t let the software get so advanced we won’t need a physical dj behind the decks is all I’m saying.
Aren’t two turntables (vinyl) and a mixer OG?
@@beatvillainz gramophone the real OG
Only time will tell...if that was true today, why did Pioneer not use RecordBox on the Rev7????
I think this is a future problem for Serato if the trends continue. like I said in the video down the line I think they will most likely leverage their gear to help increase their platform
@@DJKeo maybe but why haven't they done that already since they are the industry standard? I do agree with you...once InMusic gets that Engine software lined up and working...they will move away from Serato or even better, purchase Serato and use that platform to make Engine better
@@mike._.feliciano6782 Pioneer sells gear first maybe they thought the Rev was better suited for serato users who came from vinyl. I'm not sure just speculating at this point. I don't think there is any question they will start pushing Rekordbox more in the future to increase the lead. And if InMusic does the same that could be a perfect storm of bad news for Serato as we know it, they could very well be bought by inmusic and merged into engine prime. To be fair it is a bit of a long shot but it is possible.
Is it "sheep-like" to need to practice at home on a similar system that you see when you walk into the club? Have you ever toured in areas where there is zero standarization of the gear in any of the venues? How about dealing with the fact that the equipment rider on your contract doesn't mean anything when there are no pro-level rental companies on an island? For these reasons I embrace Pioneers monopolistic grip on our world and I don't freak out when it increases.
excellent point
Inmusic also owns rane so I dont think they would make the move to drop serato interface.
Currently their products don't overlap so it's a non issue because rane doesn't make standalone dj hardware but if engine makes the shift over to laptops it only makes sense inmusic would want all their brands supporting their dj software. I don't think they would 100% give up serato I think it would support both at least for now.
Serato really missed the opportunity during covid, when everyone was home, and wanting to become a DJ, people all over buying ddj 400s, all because it came with software, while serato equivalent sb3 only used Serato Lite..
I will not pay a monthly fee for a software.
I wouldn't put a lot of stock into the survey. People can actually answer it multiple times, and are encouraged to do so for more chances to win the dj gear
Serato is dependent on your computer, other companies hardware. Pioneer has its own software and hardware! Mac has its own DJ software and uses hardware from pioneer. Denon and Native instruments has their own hardware and software. Serato is out there with no boat. 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Your absolutely right Keo. Why should Pioneer as a manufacturer make THEIR equipment work better on Serato? Makes business sense.
Also the fact that they got in to become the “industry standard” in clubs just made everything worse.
If you want to dj in a club, you REALLY should be familiar with RB.
What DENON should do is give large discounts to owners of clubs so they can become the “industry standard”
What about the Rev 1 and 7? Both are Serato only and they've been getting rave reviews? Before they came out, I would have agreed with you, but now I'm not so sure.
Serato is stable and the best for dvs
Why do you say oys best for dvs?... I have both and see no difference... But if I'm Jones I don't scratch so maybe that's it?
Serato should release an standalone host box for controllers&DVS/Phase (imagine Numark dashboard shape+audio interface) and it will be a success… but I’m screaming it since they discontinnued SSL… Denon Prime series are based on similar concept (prototype was done on raspberry pi) and maybe Denon could benefeit of Serato purchase as brand but probably not happenning. Another brand that could hit Pioneer is Behringer (stated they want to democratize the dj field time ago) and also open source projects could be a “thing” for the dj segment slice of antiPioneers… Software evolves fast than hardware and none of the Pioneer offerings has spleeter steam support… so there are “options” but not “will”. If VirtualDj goes iPad with Apple Silicon transition trend then we could get a winning horse. Reloop Touch was a warning…
Serato is in trouble. InMusic forced me to move over to Traktor. I had to upgrade to a new Mac. My Numark NS7II and my Rane 62 nolonger work. InMusic also discontinued the Rane sl and the Denon ds1 audio interface. I not going to buy a new mixer or controller just to use Serato. I don't know what Pioneer is up to? Their Interface 2 has been on backorder for almost a year and I am not going to pay for a subscription. I have owned Traktor forever and I paid the 49.00 to upgrade. I can use any audio interface I want.
Not really surprising on the major trends.
Are the relative movements in Rekordbox / Serato real? I’m a Traktor user and have been thinking about a DDJ-400 with RB just to fiddle around with it. A good number of my DJ friends are in the Traktor/Rekordbox universe, switching back and forth depending on how much “controller-ism” they want to use in a set or session. Serato’s missteps on updates and direction have made people more leery of the platform, for the same reason that Traktor lost marketshare. I suspect the general trend is real. Most of the Serato users I know play one song at a time. The whole song. And they play another. Without mixing in between. On Pioneer or Numark equipment. Why put up with the hassle of mixed equipment/software when RB can do all of that on a cheap $300USD controller?
InMusic may have bought their first couple percent of the market with the “it can’t be that cheap” SC5000 / X1800 release deal, but the additional growth is on a solid platform making incremental gains in price and performance. They made their impressive launch by taking the most popular features in controllers and making them part of a stand alone system. Smart Marketing. But very little of the flexibility that made controllers the incubators of new art/tech. Is that enough to make it into double-digits? What if they finally port it to a mobile device and let you add your own controller? And customized mappings? I suspect that combination would relegate Serato to Traktor-land, having once been a major player, now holding via an ever-diminishing loyal fan-base that hangs in there for reasons that sound logical, but are more emotional than anything else.
I honestly don’t know what’s up with VirtualDJ. On specs and features alone, they should be killing it. But I can’t count how many times I’ve installed it and tried it out, only to delete it later on. And if I’m running computer only for a backyard event - I usually just pull up a streaming service playlist instead. Evidently I’m not alone.
Good points all around and yes serato is definitely trending downwards this has been years in the making. I think they are going to need a major upgrade and soon to stop the bleeding but there is nothing they can do about the hardware because they are so dependent on pioneer and inmusic.
I left serato after 10 years for rekordbox when they dropped rane dvs support. I bought rekordbox dvs and surprised how good it is. You also get more features included that cost extra in serato I. E. Key sync... I think serato are going to be in big trouble if they don't support more hardware
When did serato drop rane dvs support. It’s only this year the stop supporting SL boxes because rane discontinued it ❓
Is Serato the king of DVS? I thought it'd be Traktor for supporting universal audio., Richie Hawtin, Carl Craig, Felix da Housecat all switched from Serato to Traktor and prolly to Rekordbox now.
I would say it was "the king" but this wasn't a litteral argument I was just making the point of the perception.
@@DJKeo Yeah & the survey numbers seem to show that Serato is still somehow more popular than even Traktor. HOWEVER the only people I see these days still using SSL are turntablists, hip-hoppers & those who do awful top 40 mash ups that don't usually work. In other words, people who haven't had the right yet to call themselves "DJs". I wonder what the numbers would look like if the survey only looked at electronic musicians (i.e. real DJs).
I just bought my first controller. It came with Rekordbox and I happen to really like it! Everyone tells me Serato is better though so idk
It depends on the genre of music you are playing and your style of djing, there are benefits to each dj software but I wouldn't say one is better than the other
@@DJKeo well, now that I’ve attempted to jump into the world of DVS with my first turntable, I’m really not appreciative of how hard Pioneer DVS system is locked behind hardware purchases….so yeah. It’s looking like I’m about to actually switch to Serato 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I already own 2 audio interfaces but Rekordbox still makes me have to run a second special interface, or DOWNGRADE my platter to the PLX 500 (or $1000+ mixer) just so Rekordbox control vinyl works….no thanks buddy
Before the robot DJ’s start showing up 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 !!!!! The crazy thing is that is the way the world 🌎 is headed !
I actually switched from rekordbox to serato. Better DVS experience IMO. I'll still use rekordbox to export a thumb drive every now and then, but that's about it.
Я использую traktor уже 15 лет, мне очень нравится, а rekordbox хорош для cdj
Are you saying that Traktor is now battling with virtual DJ for the number 3 spot? How the mighty have fallen.
Serato just got hyped for no reason. comparing to Rekordbox or Virtuail dj Serato loose a ton
the only Dj software i have that never cashed on me is DJ pro
Virtual Dj is the King!
The sad thing for Serato is that they haven't been innovative to bring anything new to the table. They still have their same EFX packs, which are all boring in comparison to what Pioneer offers.
One thing i do like about Serato though, is it's simplicity.
I've been using Serato for 10yrs, but wouldn't mind switching to Rekordbox if i was to purchase new hardware & it comes with Rekordbox.
I've been on RB since 2013 and been using CDJ's. RB is much better than Serato cause 99.9%. All possible clubs and venues have Pioneer gear and 99.9% start-up DJ's begin on RB. As Keo said himself. Traktor, Denon, Rane & Pioneer have their own gear. Serato doesn't....i mean they do but they're mostly controllers, was talking about standalone. The only way serato mixers work if they collab with Rane or Pioneer *which happened many many time*
but RB DVS is for me personally really solid, but it's stupid that you need to find INTERFACE2 or a specific DJM that supports DVS
ONCE PIONEER COMES OUT WITH A DUAL DECK ITS OVER FOR EVERYONE !!!!!
Virtual dj best software for vdj
Apple should buy DJay AI and make hardware at this point. They'd dominate instantly.
If Pioneer allow other brands to make kit for Rekordbox, it will kill the rest. Hopefully Serato will step up their game. Pioneer have been lazy as it is with the features on their top end kit. Keep offering for life licences will be one plus for Serato, which many Rekordbox users aren’t happy about. I’d be interested to see how that affects things going forward.
Yea I'm soon back to Serato. Rekordbox just ain't working for me :( ...The software is just a mess to use, been using Serato but when they discontinue SL3 I moved to Rekordbox and even bought DDJ 800 for it :( but the software is just not good like Serato.
No....Next question.
Rekordbox is amazing
But some features on serato are hard to let go when u are used to it
And moving from serato to Rekordbox after soooo many years of creats arrangements and all seems not worth it at the moment even though there are some features that are inviting on Rekordbox
Bro good to see u on here. I mirrored my entire playlist from Serato to RB in about 5 mins. Message me I'll give u details. I'm using both now.
I still use Traktor since 2010. Wish there were more supported Traktor hardware. Rekordbox looks just like a cheap copy of Traktor 😔
Great video, as always- serato is getting dated imo
Serato Video hasn't worked well in years. Virtual DJ is better for pop, and edm. Serato and recordbox are better for tech house and techno.
Is it !? Why so !? cuz the techno hits diddent in rb
lmao.. Noooooo.. How is this even a thought
I don’t think so. It is good..but a lot of equipment isn’t compatible with rekordbox unless it’s pioneer
i never used Serato
Well i just switched to Traktor
No cause Serato is still more stable, simpler and provides better audio quality
I think most DJ software these days doesn't sound that great. I think they degrade the sound quality to accommodate all The features.
...now you explain please...how what you are saying makes any sense at all...why in the hell should the sound degrade if a software adds a feature...
Why cant spotify create software for djing
rekordbox dj has rase there price and no improvement
Rekordbox is rubbish. Not only is it an utter system hog, it has always been, and continues to be, full of bugs and bs coding. Pioneer DJ is proof in itself that being the most popular does not require you to be the best
Short answer, No! Stems suck and videomixing in Rekordbox is Utter garbage.
Serato is buggy for me
What laptop are you running it on what's your gear?
@@DJKeo I'm running a desktop with a rtx2070 and 9900kf 64gb of ram and windows 11
Mines runs amazing on 2018 Touch Bar MACBOOK PRO
Serato sucks and Pioneer Rekordbox too!
Serato IS OUTDATED AF!!!