I bought the MOST EXPENSIVE Electric Dirt Bike I could find
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ต.ค. 2022
- I bought the most expensive electric dirt bike I could find in my area. It's the Electric Motion Escape R. On the company website, they bill this as an off road, free riding, touring dirt bike. We'll have to see about that. I have a lot of questions about how all this electric stuff is going to work, or not work.
Let's be honest about something though, this is more of a trials bike than anything. It's pretty fun to mess around with around the house and do balance drills with, and other trials type stuff. Whether or not it's really a capable bike in the off road world, we'll explore a little bit in this video and in future content on it.
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Dude buys the wrong bike for the riding he does then complains about it. Not impressed.
Hi Kyle, you made some good points. I too had my screen tear. Its poorly designed. I got another from them, free but its no better. I gave them feedback. I never thought it would be much fun in your area. Its not made for that stuff. Take it to the nastiest technical trails or actually NO trails, trail blazing.. where the trees barely allow you to pass and the incline barely lets you stand. Tight rocks. Example, Hatfield McCoy's or something and it shines. Its lighter than every 2 stroke i know and maintains better traction. Where 5 mph feels fast..You'll be glad your on it in that stuff. Like every bike, it shines in its element. I had a blast last summer in super tight rocky loggy deep woods, trail blazing. West Virginia, upstate NY.
My electric motion epure race is the best bike I have ever owned. I ride it every day for an hour. It has hundreds of hours on it. I have done practically zero maintenance on it. The neighbours don't complain because it is silent. The power is adjustable so I can let beginners ride it. My ktm gets ridden far less often, costs a fortune/ huge amount of time to maintain. I ride my em 10 times as much. I charge it night. I wonder why you didn't think of these things, what else didn't you think of? Are your other reviews missing important information?
Agreed That Bike is designed for technical riding and not high speed on flat road. What we saw was not the potential of the bike. He did't even hop a log haha
@@electricmotionhawaii Looks like he left it in beginner mode and used it for the wrong type of riding. Of course it failed. I'd get the same result riding a trial with my Triumph tiger.
Thanks for the review. Good to know. I'll wait a few years to see how the cell power- retention and out-put evolve.
Wow! This video looks like you had fun making (even though it probably wasnt).
This is the next level of content creation. Nice work!
Also, the battery does get better with conditioning. It also needs to be fully charged after every use. When enjoying in it's element I wear out way before it does. Again, in no way is it going to work in the wide open trails. I agree, once doing 25mph, it's got little grunt to pull it up. I love the super sketchy rocky tight deep woods trail blazing where your going places no ones ever..been. crawling over logs, rocks, places that are hard to walk. It will go places where all other bikes would be way harder to get in with.
buys an electric trials bike and compares it to gas enduro? wtf is this.
My thoughts exactly
It also appears as if many folks in the comments aren’t much more informed than Kyle is when it comes to trials bikes or motorcycles general.
@@chrisgibson2223 I was thinking the same!
Clickbait my man. Welcome to Dietbike Channel
No shit. He's a youtube moto wannabe trying to make a buck off his cheesy sweepstakes hustle.
Did you try taking it out of green mode? There are 3 maps on the bike and it defaults to the the low power mode. Did you RTFM?
🤣🤣
Yeah because if you had it in RED mode that front wheel won’t stay down! That bike has more power then you need if you know how to ride it!
I really enjoyed this review. I used to have a Escape 2019 model and used to ride around the yard to ride over stuff. It was fun in a small area with to practice. Never going to work in big open areas - I don't think they should market it like that. I was thinking of getting a new one with the clutch but watching your video reminded me why I sold my old one.
You say you were trying to be positive, but you clearly were doing everything possible to mock and be as negative as you could towards electric motorcycles. Clearly without even wasting the money (if you truly did buy that bike), there was no way it was going to meet your expectations of the type of ride you like to do and comparing it to gas motorcycles.
I’ve been riding and racing at a high-level gas motorcycles my entire life and I love them. But I also can’t wait to add the Stark to my collection if and when it becomes available. so let me tell you a few positives I have with electric motorcycles and maybe you can focus on some of these in your next Electric Bike review.
First off, 15 years ago I taught my daughters how to ride motorcycles using the electric Oset trials bikes. They were an amazing tool for teaching my daughters how to ride. We could ride them in the front yard, the backyard, the driveway, the street, the sidewalk, the local park, in a parking lot, the school down the street you name it. And nobody blinked an eye or got pissed off because of the noise or called the police.
Second those electric trials Bikes taught my daughters something that is very difficult to teach new riders and that is how to ride standing up. when I moved them to gas motorcycles they already had good technique and were comfortable riding. In fact my oldest daughter at 21 is a factory sponsored mountain bike racer traveling the world getting paid to race and ride mountain bikes. I look back at those early days of riding the electric trials bikes as another tool that helped hone her skills. And the beauty is we didn’t have to load up and go anywhere.
Secondly in my town of Flagstaff Arizona, years ago the county banned operation of all off road vehicles in a circular motion (tracks) on private property under 10 acres. Over 10 acres you would have to get a special use permit which they will not give you.
This came about because of the number of motocross tracks that were popping up in residential areas on 2 acre properties. The biggest culprit was the noise, obviously dust was second. In addition to the Oset trials bikes, I had a small course on our 2 acre property that I would let my daughters ride the gas powered Honda 50 on, it really didn’t make enough noise or dust to matter. I argued at these county meetings the positives of my kids riding dirt bikes supervised and in the safety of our property. I argued that these bikes made very little noise dust especially if if it was watered or it had rained, but it didn’t matter they were banned right along with the loud for 450 four strokes, the damage was already done.
So I see electric dirt bikes has a great tool to get new riders involved by being able to ride in areas where noise is an issue.
Hell we may even see indoor motorcycle riding and training facilities kinda like the modern go kart track. Have you ever been to an indoor electric go kart racing facility? So much fun and such a better experience than when they were gas powered go carts.
I’m looking forward to my Stark because I can practice skills and screw around on my property and near my property in a way more stealthy manner. I’ve been known to link trails together primarily for mountain bike riding, but I’ve often used my dirt bike which can get me in trouble. The Electric Bike will let me do this again in a more stealthy manner.
Anyway, I just happen to be one that thinks there’s room for both gas and electric motorcycles and cars for that matter. I’ll be burning fossil fuel for the rest of my life but in the meantime, I’m going to enjoy the new technology of electric dirt bikes and even possibly automobiles as an addition to my gas bikes, not as a replacement.
There’s so many possibilities for electric motorcycles if you open your brain a little and look at both the positives and not just the negatives.
Why didn't you get the KTM E Bike?
I love my surron, but yep range / ride time is the issue. Upside you can rode and no one knows your around. Good review 😊
Of course it’s not gonna be good on long fast trail rides. I have a 22 em escape standard (no clutch) and a 18 300xcw. Ride strictly hard enduro. This thing is great for hard enduro and stealth trespassing. It’s an awesome second bike for cross training. Unrealistic expectations.
You should buy a 2023 kx 450f for trials riding on your next video.
I watched this and he obviously has done no research on electric bikes at all. 18 miles of range sounds about right if riding fairly fast desert type riding(above 2nd gear) on a bike made for technical 1-2 gear riding. I have a moddified surron with KO controller and it has the ability to tune how much torque it puts out every 500 rpm between 0-100% and I dont have any settings over 60% of what it is capable of as it would just loop out pretty much instantly with one hard jab. Oh and to make it iven better you can get a surron with battery, controller, and a few other mods and it would be about $7k but honestly the stock bike is a blast and way more of flowy mtb feel vs mine thats modded for woods racing. I get about 35-40 miles out of mine riding trails like his and my wife would get close to 60-70 just putting around with my battery that is over twice the capacity of what he has in the EM
This wasn’t a fast trail ride :) it’s an opinion and we are both welcome to have them. Thanks for watching 😂
@@DirtBikeChannel You showed the trails it was flat boring trails where you need more speed to keep it fun which is fine on enduro bike(I have both a beta and heavily modded surron as well as have owned several huskies, ktm, yamaha husaberg etc). A trials bike would have been boring too from the areas you showed. The slower and more technical the better when it comes to these electric bikes. The most fun is trails so tight you can barely walk thru it. Try that then make a proper review.
@@DirtBikeChannel You should really come ride my YZ450-E, it is a completely different beast than this trial bike.
Not a trail bike. But sure did make for content that gets clicks. 🤷♂️
It not an enduro bike you ride short trials sections about a hundred yards each and it's all about torque.not cross country riding like what you are doing on this video you could ride a trials bike all day and only cover a few miles if your riding trials sections and have 40% power left at the end of the days riding.this is an unfair review but one thing I agree with you is the ridiculous price these e trials bikes are far cheaper to produce than a petrol engined trials bike.
Great as usual
The bike is definitely made for more technical stuff! It's a Trial bike, not an Enduro one!
There is no good use for electric dirtbikes. Not even technical situations, a proper fossil fuel powered bike absolutely dominates this powerwheel in the video.
Its a turd.
One of the places I ride is very technical and slow, with loads of climbs. Someone had to drag one of these out 😂
Probably mediocre for about 45 min tops.
Great video to watch but Why didnt you get a Surron? Please do this again but with the Surron storm bee when it releases.
Thanks for the candid review. Now that you've bought it and committed a bit of your time to it, how do you see it fitting into your dirt biking life? Ride with the gas bike all day, and wrap up on an e-bike? How will this make things better, if at all?
He didn't buy it to fit into his dirtbike life. He bought it to fit into his youtube channel and pretend something else. This considered the biggest clown in the moto world.
Should of got a Sur Ron
Not sure a trials bike is supposed to perform like a trail bike?
Either way, that charging issue will be problematic for most.
Why didn't you go for the KTM freeride instead?
Because he likes to complain when he buys the wrong tool.
Would that be something fun for practicing technique around the house and then use your 300 or whatever gas bike you like on the weekend and transfer over skills? I wonder if it would help some but lack a lot compared to just using a trials bike.. I want to see what that clutch does! Would be cool to see what it can to in the techy stuff and logs and such.
When are you going to try the stark varg??
I run YZ250'S but was looking into getting one of these after seeing a video showing the clutch and thought it'd be fun. Thank you for this video, ya saved me $12K
Cheap or expensive it requires 745.7 watts per hp before losses.
Hopefully you have a Stark on order, curious to see what you say about that..im thinking it's going to be pretty awesome
I have a couple of 14kw bikes you need to try Kyle. I live down your street so just let me know :)
What batteries are you using that allow you to pull 14,000 watts or 18hp before losses from?
@@Dat_Sun One is the 14kw kuberg ranger. It feels more like 11-12kw though but can still power wheelie easily at 30+mph. The other is a modified sur-ron with the falcon controller and a lightspeed 72v battery that hangs out a bit. It's only pushing like 12.5kw but wants to kill you doing power wheelies over 40 no problem with full size moto tires on it. Neither will go much above 50 mph though, so my 380 two stroke still eats their lunch. But this one Kyle is on seems like a joke, anywhere below 30 mph a good e-bike/moto should scare you with the torque they deliever
@@DallinDyer Yeah, but what battery allows 14,000 watts of discharge and fits in your ebike?
@@Dat_Sun "fit" is subjective as it definitely hangs out. Kuberg ranger has been available for years and comes un-modded at 14kw when you buy the top spec'd bike. Litespeed 72v batteries are common for the surron upgraded kits. Just search bac4000 and bac8000 surron videos here in youtube and find lots of options.
@@DallinDyer The problem I am running into is nobody is listing the actual cell manufacturer's specifications, only claims from the bike manufacturer. 14,000 watts of discharge is a crazy amount of power from these small batteries, saying 14KW is extremely misleading amd false advertising.
I designed battery banks for wind turbines and communication towers for many years. I do not see how it would be possible to draw 14,000 watts from a small electric bike battery pack. It could probably sustain a load of about 3-5 hp at most. It seems like electric motorcycle advertising is very similar to how cheap Walmart amplifiers are rated with unbelievable numbers.
The EM Escape isn't meant for enduro riding and if you ride it that way expect around 20mls of battery "juice" in the most conservative mode, not more. Yet for tight and technical trail riding at slow speed the battery can give you around 30mls before dropping below usable, which at low speeds means a few hours of fun. I've got one and I love it as much as I hate it 😅. It's expensive for sure, but electric (true) motorbikes are still a relatively niche market, which pushes the price. Still, electric motors are incomparably better than petrol engines in every possible respect. Their current (and indeed major) issue is with today's batteries, which discharge quickly and take time to recharge; and which current technology makes them not too environment-friendly either if we consider their overall lifecycle, from production to disposal. All that said, the EM - like anything electric - is not a bike for every season and purpose, it's a specialized tool to have fun with tight technical stuff, and having a seat makes it more versatile than a purely trials bike. If that's what one likes doing then that bike shines, but if you like typical enduro then forget it. I used to own also a few gas bikes but since I tried electric I sold most of them and I'm not looking back to the insane amount of maintenance that those specialized dirt machines require. At 61 my life starts looking too short for wasting my time that way and I've now downsized to one Honda CRF300L as a general purpose "adventure" bike, one Beta Xtrainer 300, which I share with my son, for occasional true enduro, and finally the EM Escape for shortish but *very* enjoyable technical riding. At this point I rather prefer shorter but possibly more frequent outdoors rather than spending more time fiddling with oil changes, filter cleaning, piston replacements, etc, etc, ...
Just wait until the next e MX/ xc bike comes out from the big names. You will go 2x faster , just only for half the distance though. Not a problem I guess for factory teams in a stadium with multiple chargers and batteries on hand .....
I can't wait to see that one in a give away! (Does TH-cam have a sarcasm button?)
I was thinking the same…”Good luck giving THAT away.”
Let's not pretend that the bike's short comings originate from its trials foundation. That's heavy, powerless and short-ranged by trials standards (Kyle knows). You can get a lot of 2-stroke miles (gas, oil and tires) with 12k. Thanks for confirming our suspicion Kyle!
The EM bikes are actually competitive when you use them for their intended purpose.
I feel like this video was a huge waste of time. Kyle was riding this bike in flowy single track.
Has he used it for trials or more technical riding he would have likely been worn out before the bike was dead.
I know folks who compete on EM bikes and they do 3 full loops easy on a charge.
But then again Kyle has probably never ridden a trials loop as he seems unfamiliar with the sport.
Use the right tool for the right job. If you want range use a gas bike. If you want technical stuff with shorter range use a trials bike.
BTW the no seat version is about the same weight as a Montesa.
I’ve ridden them and they are legit.
Kyle riding this in open single track is like driving a screw into wood with a hammer. It’s not the right tool and it won’t work as well.
@@chrisgibson2223 That's exactly the point Kyle is making. It won't work as well.
I ride a Montessa 4rt and a Beta REV 4T-250 both in trials and single track (in Kyle's area). Is it too much to expect to do both with one bike?
As soon as an electric bike will do both, at a reasonable price, I'm all in.
@@djnord5570 I'm in the area. I've got an electric bike that might just Do the trick and it's not a garage build.
@@voltageadventure9071 I've seen those Surron bikes before. I'll have to check out your channel.
@@djnord5570 I do have those and they are super fun but this other bike makes those look like toys.
Having ridden other electric motorcycles, i can say that this wasn't the one to properly judge the technology. There are EXTREMELY more powerful bikes. However, you lose the experience of shifting, exhaust sound, clutch control, and let's be honest those things really make this sport addicting.
It's not a dirtbike, dirtbike channel guy. Other than electric, no different than sherco and beta's hybrid offerings, if you know anything about trials. Completely awesome and very well refined for what it is. I have the epure race and I would not go back to a gas trials, after owning three of them. I apologize to the good folks at Electric Motion for this guy. You might want to go back to selling insurance, or whatever it was before you started riding bikes a few years ago..
Well it took 5 of the top 7 spots in the E-bike class at TKO. The right bike in the wrong hands.
It will defiantly be while before one is in my garage. If I had say 30 acers and could ride out of my garage on my one quick single track. Maybe I go for stealth not to piss my neighbors off with something like that or I just wanted to dink around on a trials bike. For the money I could get 2 used trails bikes in decent shape and fill them with gas a in a few seconds. Just can't see it for any sort of long rides. I heard the Red shift was awesome, but in any sort of aggressive riding the battery went fast.
What mode were you riding the EM in?
I have an Electric YZ450 for you to ride. I'm just 20min from you and you can see what a real electric bike feels like
I like your style.
As you might be able to tell by my screen name, we think alike. 😁
Did you build it yourself?
I subbed to your channel to check it out 👍🏽
@@starfox_wr-45e93 I did build it myself. its an 06 yz45o converted to electric with about the same power as my KTM 300
@@jolte-mx1608 Nice. Good job man.
It seems, from the couple of vids I watched, that it keeps up fine with the other ICE bikes in the group.
I feel like if Kyle rides it, he'll just complain about the lack of clutch for the whole ride.🤣Prove me wrong Kyle, prove me wrong lol
One day, I'll finish building my WR up, one day lol
More videos like this!!!😃
Dude, you could've bought the freeride exc! It actually rips and the included 220v charger fills a dead battery in 90 minutes. Although it is heavy and the 20 mile max battery capacity is a bummer. I'll stick to my 300 xcw!
This is like comparing a two-stroke Riles dirtbike to an actual dirtbike
Try the suron I seen videos where you can get upgrades and proper motorbike wheelsets and it does thr job close to a gas bike
Should have tried a surron. Much cheaper and seems a little better
I would like to see your thoughts on a Surron Storm Bee
There’s $12k you won’t get back.
I'm sorry you had to go through that experience.
test the XR version next!
Appreciate the honesty. I'd like to see a review of the stark bike and hear your thoughts!
He has a Stark bike ordered, but who knows when Stark will actually deliver.
@@BSm2919 Seems like vapor ware like so many electric offerings. Wish these companies would stop overselling and be realistic.
It won't be any different. It boils down to how many watts the ebike battery bank can deliver over time. Basically the heavier the battery is, greater the range, weight and power.
Starky is using the same battery technology. So don't expect any significant changes other than cup and bar mounted heated lipstick holders as an option.
its a trials bike with a seat, so not really designed for any of the riding shown. Go find some gnarly rocks and hills and its brilliant
anyone knows what gopro mount he uses?
That is an electric trials bike with a seat. Go ride it like a trails bike and then report back.
Kyle..... Thank you so much for your honest review of the Electric Motion trials/trail bike. With 46 years of technological advances built in to this bike, I never in a million years would have thought that my 1977 Bultaco Sherpa T could outperform it in nearly every aspect! 👍🥇
Where is your 2023 KTM XC TBI!!?? The other TH-cam channels have had them weeks ago.
He just bought one today. It’s on his Instagram. He said it will be in the December giveaway 👍
Its not a dirt bike its a trails bike with a seat.
It's unfortunate you trash this bike because you are expecting it to be something it's not. Would be better to use it for it's intended purpose, not what we saw in this video. Must be nice to have the luxury of people giving you money to make content like this. Ride the fricken thing in a trials area back to back with your trials bike.
Seems similar to my setup. Love my M3P, especially around town. Effortless power in legal (and then some) speeds, plenty of range, a quarter of the cost of gas to charge. However, my truck and my bikes will be gas for as long as CA will let me. Maybe the varg will change my mind, but can't beat the theater of an ICE bike.
i think they can be lighter and have more torque than normal dirtbikes but i prefer the old school way
They do not have more torque or power than their gasoline counterparts unless you compare it to a klx110. Even then it might be a wash.
@@Dat_Sun I've got one that I think would make you take back your words. In Utah county! 0-60 in 3.7 and 60 miles of singletrack range with 3-4k gain. Let's go for a ride!
@@voltageadventure9071 No your retirement electric bike would not make me take back my words. Unless your ebike has some futuristic battery that we do not know of, with an energy density 2 to 3 times that of the best lithium cells then I will not be taking back me words.
Is that supposed to be an impressive acceleration time? Something tells me it involves the most optimal conditions. If your bike was as good as you say you would see them in competition against ice bikes and you don't unless it's a propaganda video, and there are several here on yt. Pick any one of them and we can discuss why it's propaganda.
Dirtbike channel just did a comparison today, in his comparison between an electric bike and gas powered bikes, they neglected to rev the engine at the start, they were leaving at idle, then wide open throttle, short shifting, it was a complete farce.
I offer my new 22 YZ250 FX to any electric bike owner that can keep up for just half a tank of fuel. Other than some suspension work the bike is stock. Just one trip around Kremmling Colorado should do it. They always give some reason why they cannot claim a $9000 bike by demonstrating their claims in person.
Return it Kyle
I'm too old to say this but braaaaapp rules
Are you going to put on your monthly sweepstake for ppl to win it?
I can't handle the sound. It reminds me of my electric RC cars/trucks.
I just wrecked my 2021 klx 230 and it’s totaled and I have 3 compression fractures in my back
Kyle usually buys KTM, & they sell an electric model, so why did he choose this off brand? 🤔
He did a video the other day about how the Stark Varg he order was delayed again. And the KTM electric is hard to find, I haven't seen one where I live and there is alot of brand new bikes on the trails around here.
They're all the same, it doesn't matter what brand is making it. All are using a lithium -xx powerwheel equivalent battery. You basically buy a battery and they throw the bike in for free that's the idea.
@@theworst4980 damn, been one sitting at my local dealer for months
Nice toy. To me the only place the e bike makes sense is in the trials format .
Gas go fast😎
What about ktm freeride comparisons?
They are not there yet.
Kyle literally has no idea what that bike is for. I guess I'm spoiled cause I have gnarly hard enduro (real hard enduro not what Kyle considers hard lol) right from my house. I am faster through hard lines 100% of the time on my EM vs my 300. If I'm riding anywhere with higher speeds and lots of hills, I'm taking my 300 to be sure. But this review is so 1 sided it's ridiculous. I can ride the true gnar technical stuff for 5 straight hours on mine with regen braking. It's not a perfect bike for sure but it is an excellent slow hard enduro weapon with top shelf trials equipment (except that goddamn display, I'll give him that one).
There’s a performance switch on it
Should have bought an Alta!
You sir are the hero we didn’t know we needed.
Why didn't you buy a zero fx and take off the lights to make it lighter. This has a way better range
great video, I'll stick to dinosaur fuel
They shoulda just kept the website lingo to "trials" instead of "touring"/"offroad"
The review is fair enough if you want to ride a technical machine on a pristine dirt road like we saw. I think if you took it to the rocks you would have had more fun. I wanna see that ride review for sure.
Do you walk your bike to where you ride? I have 10km of single track to get to the rocks. This thing would be dead before I touched a rock.
@@theworst4980 no I don't but luckily here in hawaii our hard enduro trails are 1/2 mile into the valley. Technical right form the start so these bikes work well. I love these bikes but if I rode the track he was on ide be board too even on a gas bike haha. It's just designed for super technical hard rides (trials) anything else just ride the gas.
No Wonder Wall?
Why not look at the Stark Varg
Holy crap that thing blows hard... thanks for the warning and sorry for you loss.............
It's a trials bike... That's a like saying this power drill sucks because I can't use it to hammer down nails.. comme on Kyle you can do better. I have been following you for a long time and I know you rode plenty of trials bike. This video screams I just trying to create controversy for views.
Dam that really sux for 12000 bucks I think everyone thought it was gonna be better. I thought it was gonna be better then that
Enduro riding a trials bike , should have been in the back yard doing obsticals, thats its world.
$12,000. The surron does basically the same thing for 1/3 the cost. But even then, electric is not the future. We are actually realizing this in real time right now.
not even close - u have to throw 5k at a sur ron to even be in the ball park of a em ability
@@chrisb222 the review seemed pretty clear that the bike sucks. If you have a different experience I think we would all like to hear about it.
Surron does not have a hydraulic clutch.
@@kidisgod that’s true. And the hydraulic clutch is so important. But the problem with electric is the massive loss of energy by using a clutch on an electric dirt bike. It’s like an electricity suck.
@@bizzidy lol the guy buys a bike he pretends to know nothing about - It is a technical hard enduro rock climbing beast - that can carry me over the toughest terrain for at least 4 or 5 hours - - it is a trials bike with a seat - it is not a wide open throttle desert flat tracker - he might as well be riding on the road - that saps battery life -- KTM freeride you can max at an hour and a quarter of riding single track - EM is a superb bike
Well I guess you can give it away, provided anybody wants it, lol.
No thanks i cant see the benefit for off road riding. Even with traction control which would be needed i dont see me liking it. I know how traction control is in a truck and when you want and need the power but your spinning it just falls on its face!
It was a pretty funny video though, but useless. Shoulda had the sur ron storm bee
That's why sur Ron is better
If you want to see what this bike can do, watch a real video of it in the Red Bull TKO: th-cam.com/video/XnoaT10-pgE/w-d-xo.html
Those e-motion escape r’s look sick as like a yard trials toy. Something to practice slow speed bike skill. One that you could ride without disrupting neighbors. But electric is far from being even feasible for a main bike.
I agree and yet, who has 12 grand for a yard toy?
@@BSm2919 I sure don’t hahaha
7:28 0-5 mph is as fast as you go doing trials riding
Do you walk your bike to where you ride? I have around 10km of single track before there is any thing fun to ride. Even cruising at 20kph that bike would be dead before the front tire touched a rock.
@@theworst4980 Plenty of people haul their bikes to their riding spot.... I agree it would probably make a terrible general purpose trail bike, but if you just wanted to mess around on some logs or rocks in your yard or at your local spot it might be ok. Hard to justify the price tag if that's all you can use it for though.
Might as well get the ktm freeride, at least it looks similar to a dirtbike LOL
You need to find a bike like Stark Varg and run it. That's a real dirt bike, not some slow trials bike.
He ordered one they keep delaying the delivery, he mentioned it in a video the other day.
Electric household appliances yes electric dirt bike NO NO NO and the term really is battery powered thanks Kyle for this video you have made it clear junk junk👍👍
Don't think of the electric as a replacement for your gas bike, the electric is for tight technical steep trails and goofing around in areas you'd piss people off on a noisy bike. I don't understand your power complaints, were you using the RED map? Or you weren't using the clutch? It does have flaws, the battery meter is horrible. And the range is not ideal. 20 miles in AF canyon is about as far as you want to plan on riding, (25 miles is pushing your luck) ... but overall, I just couldn't disagree more with you, on nasty gnarly trails the EM is my favorite bike. Its light , playful, peppy. FUN! Whatever skills I can demonstrate on my GasGas 300, I can do better on that Electric. But I also don't think its the right bike for many trails. Its not for long desert trail rides on the flat. Its not for WOT screaming around the whole time. But spend some more time on it. Take it on the 5 Miles of Hell or something gnarly, I bet you will like it way more on trails like that.
I just feel bad for you that you spent your cash on it…but appreciate the review!!!
trust me they are so in demand and such awesome bikes he could sell it in a minute
Watch TFL truck and Hoovie’s recent towing with evs episodes if you still believe “electric is the future.”
And don’t hold your breath waiting for improved battery tech because it’s not going to happen.
Great review. I’ve seen so many others that were charging at the track or trail with a gas generator over multiple hours. They never comment on the level of stupidity that is.
Yeah you should return it and get your money back
Next up: I buy a KTM adventure for a hard enduro.
But the crowd will love it!
Waste of time and fuelling the anti electric fear mongering. You did no research on the bike and you made it clear that you had no clue, only that it had a clutch(only needed in extreme enduro which you dont really do). That said you used the wrong tool for the job, using a motor tuned for low speed low rpm for fast flowing trails means you are using it in a rpm range where its efficiency is horrible as it was not designed for it. For desert riding no electric bike will be the right tool, they are better for flowing trails or slow technical or track use when you push hard for 20min then the race is over and you are burnt. I get 35-40 miles running enough power and torque to loop out the bike above 30mph anytime bc get this... it was tuned for it. This channel has really gone downhill and just turned to a ktm worship channel and dont actually know how to research new tech
Thanks for the input, haha!
@@DirtBikeChannel just do a bit of research(not just brochure or hype videos) and you would know that desert riding is not where these bikes work well. Take advantage of the light weight and no reciprocating mass in slow tight stuff and it will be fun. Also as many have said look at surron, its not super high end but 80% of this bike but 1/3 the cost and easy to mod into a monster(check my channel and I have raced it and posted videos of my modded one). Mine will loop out at 30mph so not slow and boring
Wrong bike for these trails
U should just take it back to the dealer now no point keeping it lol
Yea bro that was an expensive video for sure. I was crenging at the title lol. I'm not a fan of electric anything when it comes to mobility, and dirt bikes especially. Give me gas or give me death! Horse power is the game we all love to play!