I remember when we played this mission, as kids, my uncle happened to be watching us play this mission and before Niko and Michelle left the apartment my uncle says "shes a cop" and we didn't believe him.
Even something as simple as her complimenting Niko when he wears the same clothes. Implying that she bugged them and that she doesn't want him to change his wardrobe. Spiking his drink and then asking him questions was something I hadn't heard in my game until now. That was kind of cool, and messed up.
MiniMackeroni Wow youre right i didnt even think about bugging Nikos clothes. Game is so well thought out and 10 years later im still discovering things. My favorite detail is Niko's english improving throughout the story.
also what ive just realized is that when he first comes to her apartment and everything is like new, she says she's obsessed with cleanliness while apparently it was a set up apartment and everything was just bought straight in so it looks as if she really lived there
I caught on because if you say fuck it I'm gonna fuck and kill ho's she'll start calling you so I figured it was a trap like the G-man in GTA San Andreas holding your brother hostage.
From what i remember I believe i skipped the cutscene because you were able to jump in at any point and i must have pushed the button bu accident. Either way I don’t believe i would have noticed either way.
Makes me realize how much 13 year old me had no idea whats going on. It's so hilariously obvious she's trying to get dirt on Niko it's almost painful. (also i'm 24 now and I feel old)
Well i played this game just now for the first time and i'm 23, and even to me it was a surprise. I did thought she was weird, and she asked a bit too much about Nico, but i thought she was just suspicious that he was a criminal and thought she was as well. So she was just trying to bond on that or something, when i found out she was a cop i felt betrayed like hell.
man, apart from her undercover personality, she and niko would've been a great pair. I just couldn't feel it with Kate. everytime after this reveal, whenever I passed by "michelle's" house, I just felt sad. felt like a real break up lol edit: yes Kate was the genuine one and Niko liked her too so it doesn't matter what I think really lol.
@@davids1854 I mean, how much a person can Move On. Niko had one back in Serbia, though her status is unknown. Michelle was her Second girlfriend but she Betrayed him. Kate was her third girlfriend and she died. How Much a Person Can Move On? Look at Max Payne, whose Wife died then Girlfriend died and since then he is alone. I really respect Pagan Min for that, after his girlfriend left him, he never got a Second one.
TheShifter1001 it was their game of thrones moment. Throwing away a fan favorite like garbage just to introduce you to a new character. Plus honestly, in the real world, that's how shit goes. People like Johnny don't make it especially being hooked to meth head.
I remember the first time I played GTA IV and thinking how poorly they had written Michelle's dialogue, then when it was revealed she was working undercover it suddenly all made sense.
Karen did love Nico, and she got her "life" back but 5 years later she's a husk of herself, a hardened government pawn doing dirty work. She won't have kids, close friends, or even someone to listen to her at the end of the day, yet this is the life she betrayed her lover for. This is why GTA V sucked, we see characters we bonded with like Packie and Karen become shadows of their former selves. In the end Nico's name (meaning Victory) makes a lot of sense, he's no longer in that life, he played the game and won. Something Karen and Packie can't say.
cfroi08 Yeah it’s harsh. (I disagree with the GTA V opinion though. Even though the characters are hardened and difficult to get attached to, that game, IV, and San Andreas are easily the best games in the series.
@@Pekitheboy Niko in greek (and niko is a greek name at least originally, from Nicolaus) means to win. Nike, the sports clothes brand literally means victory. The proper way to pronounce it would be Nee-key.
I think we assumed she was just a sweet girl that was concerned because she barely knew him but when she asked for drugs so formal it had cop all over it 😭
I played it gta Iv at least a 100 times it was my favorite and even knowing she was the feds I still didn’t even notice it I guess being young could’ve been the reason but now being 20 years old I see all the signs 🤣🤣🤣
True. You’d think playing this game and hearing her ask all these questions, that she’s just written in the script to keep the player up to date with what to be aware of. Turns out it was just her being a rat. Well played Rockstar writers.
Tommy Vercetti i really don't know how she turned from a spy but having regret for spying on niko and helping him to being heartless and taunting him while she talks about him in gta 5.
Because people like seeing old characters and ass insertion jokes are funny! Rockstar humor always has been rude but their satire and commentary in GTA IV was actually funny most of the time, in GTA V the humor got to retarded levels.
Tommy Vercetti sadly true. Even though i love gta 4, i can't resist remembering back in the days when people complained that gta4 was a step down from san andreas and the series as a whole.
That's her character arc. She betrayed the only person who loved her and now she's a husk of her former self. Deep down she hurts and it shows. She takes it out on people, anyone, innocent, guilty, suspicious, etc. She loved Nico and had to dump him in the worst possible way.
@Tolga Öztürk basically rockstar planned to have a Sex minigame in SA that you would play after you accepted getting in for a "coffee" with one of your 6 girlfriends... the problem is since adult games were more restrict to younger people, that sex minigame would make GTA SA get tag 18 instead of 16, like every gta that came before, making it sell less due to Stores being more restrictive with adult games, so they cut it, the problem is, they didn't delete the Sex minigame from the game, they just locked it so no one could access it ingame, but a Hacker managed to find out this minigame, activate it, and turn it into a MOD for the GTA SA, and boy, that caused A LOT of trouble for rockstar, making they remove the 1 version of the game from stores, which made them lose A LOT of money with the sales, they got a lawsuit, and had to pay over 26 MILLION dollars, and basically they had to re-release their game, this time with the Hot coffe minigame fully deleted. nowadays it's just a huge meme, but boy on that time... it was Rockstar's worst nightmare... i guess that's why they don't like the modding community that much... but ye, lessons were learned about making sex games on your game...
Through interaction with severa military personnel I came to know that they always observe the small things.... Like Niko Bellec observing everything in the room is new. Nobody usually cares anything else than what a woman is wearing especially when it's a first date. He spotted stuff as odd right from the get go. Little things like this is what makes this game really amazing
The difference between GTA IV and GTA V is so striking. In GTA IV, the karen character is serious, but cheeky. The joke is the situation, not the character. In GTA V, it’s just too much. That goes for every character. Everyone becomes the joke and everyone’s tryin to be a comedian
The minute Niko said "some stuff have price tags on " , That's the time we should have realized Michelle works as government agent . This too shows Niko always has his eye on everything. After bowling , she was reluctant to tell about her job and was constantly counter questioning Niko . These were the beginning signs .
Michelle: I am a good listener you can talk to me about anything. Niko: Can I come inside for a hot coffee Then Few minutes later Michelle: oh Niko you are great Niko Belic, tell me more Niko Belic. Niko After coming out of her house: She is a good listener.
One thing I always did kind of like about Michelle is that she seemed to keep Niko sane, almost happy. All the way up until she completely turned on him. Damn.
When I was younger and played gta 4, the cop reveal blew my mind. Replaying it, her being a cop was crazy obvious and I felt like an idiot for missing the hints
Dude it can be even simpler than that . Girls come in different types and the aggressive ones will do all the talking . All you have to do is be there and reply
@@prasadsawant4153 She is somewhat of an undercover cop and her job is to watch Niko - she lives somewhere else but the agency gave her this flat so she can be closer to Niko and that's why all the furniture is brand new I hope that was understandable, I am not a native speaker
Better writing, physics, police system (something's gta v did better but still.), shooting, characters and for me a really fun online for what it was back then, endless fun. Gta v is just not as good. Dont get me wrong gta v was awesome but it didn't hit like gta iv did, it was downgraded for a bigger open world and three characters, in my opinion not as cool as previous gta characters especially CJ although I really like Niko
@@TokenChineseGuy bro not gonna lie everytime I comment on year old posts I never get a reply, I'm an over thinker so I assume they got a new account or are dead lol thanks for replying
@@SOSO_CREPITUS except she felt more humane, calm, sweet, and didn't feel like she actually chose to betray Niko because she was an entirely evil person like Dimitri Rascalov, but because it's her job and she really didn't have any other choice. you can see how hard it was for her to be in that situation when she decides to tell the truth that she was working for the government the whole time, she knew there was no perfect time to confess her secret. in gta V, she felt like a completely different Person. I prefer Michelle in GTA IV more than Karen in GTA V.
Dude I won't lie, fucking R* made me fall in love with her and shattered my heart when they revealed her true character. Michelle was like the perfect girl... So sweet and nice and caring, and so cute. But fucking Karen...... R* really made me invest myself in a virtual character and then broke my heart I guess that's a well executed story... And awesome editing by you as usual... Still boggles my mind how you keep track of all the instances where she was mentioned... Great job!!
She was weird because she didn’t tell anything about herself. She pretended to be that boring mid west girl that has no friends in NYC/LC. Remember the first bowling mission where the price tags were still on the furniture in her apartment. Little Details that gave it away. She also seemed to be too good to be true because she was immediately interested in Nico who just came “fresh off the boat”. She did never complain and was too loyal and there is no back story. I wasn’t really surprised when she turned out to be a IAA/CIA agent.
Just wanted to say that you should be proud of your content, man. Played GTA IV for the first time in 2008, and now, 10 years later, I'm back to playing it again (with another mindset in place, seeing things both the same for the nostalgia, and differently, now that I'm older), that's how I got to your videos. It's easy to see your passion to the GTA series and commitment in doing a top quality job in these videos. Thank you for your work mate!
I remember i lost my save after the first date and on my 2nd playthrough, Michelle actually let him inside, "for coffee" on the first date, young me felt like a P.I.M.P lol
@@Tony-The-Motherfucking-Tiger he's actually not no matter how you kill him in GTA 5 the mission "The Wrap Up" he's still alive in GTA Online Doomsday Heist
This dynamic was fuckin wild lmfao, 27:05 is such a good cutscene, really shows her (barely) struggling between her job and being human. Sociopathic shit. She was the most terrifying character in the GTA series imo. "You'll get a Sammie, if you care about that sort of thing"
How much effort it must have been to create all this stuff.. really impressed by the diversity of this game. And I am so happy that this game is still appreciated
I want Niko and Michelle to return in GTA 6. Something GTA has never done is continue a story or reunite characters and it would be interesting if they crossed paths again. I think Niko would be the only person that could make her stop acting like a psycho.
I agree, That would be the perfect groundbreaking hit storyline for the next installment, a lot of fans were mentioning an interesting idea for Rockstar to make their first GTA female protagonist. In this case why not make a group of them: Michael's wife: Amanda, Trevor's love interest: Ursula and Franklin's girl: Liz and then Karen could be like the antagonist but in the end she comes face to face with Niko again and he tries to steer her away from her current lifestyle just like Dom did with Letty on Fast 6.
2:33 Even the kitchen walltile is new, it was _just_ about to apply itself!
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Every recurring character’s personality has changed drastically from IV to V. Johnny went from badass “drugs are bad mmmk” to a pussy meth addicted, Michelle went from “you killed people” to “oh that bank, that was you”, Packie robbing shit after losing his brother during a robbery, etc. Was that made on purpose, so they match more the Los Santos atmosphere? Or poor writing? I really don’t get it.
I can’t believe it’s been over 7 years since I played gta4 yet it still feels so fresh in my head. I remember how bugged I was getting used to the new graphics and gunfire sounds. Sometimes i get confused about what was in 4 or 5, and recall setting up on top of a building and sniping tourists who went for the heli-tours over by the piers.
I think it made perfectly sense. In GTA IV she was just collaborating with the feds, maybe after getting out of an awful situation. The years passed and she made carreer becoming more and more cynical as she got into that world. I like the way she changed actually
Andre Bailey No it was to show that Karen got what she deserved. A bitter woman in her 40's with no man, no family, and no friends. Because she gave up the only person she truely loved. It's sad that GTA V ties up the loose ends of GTA IV in the worse possible way, all the characters end up killed or depressed and drawn into the same lifestyle that destroyed them.
Honestly it's been so long since I've played GTA VI that when I played V and saw her I didn't even connect the dots and notice she was the same character in both games.
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Im here early
But i still dont get pinned too ;'(
Fernando Franco and you did
😆We can dock you its in our guide lines..... you know what fuck the lube , Karen’s a freak 🤣🤣🤣🤣probably a dom! 🤣🤣😂ha!
Dixie Fish 01 FUCK THE LUBE IT'LL GO IN 18 INCHES DRY
mertfaik özel what video?
Fernando Franco pff,ridiciolus
I remember when we played this mission, as kids, my uncle happened to be watching us play this mission and before Niko and Michelle left the apartment my uncle says "shes a cop" and we didn't believe him.
Damn crazy
yeah u got spoiled
😂 Thats kinda funny.
Maybe he was playing gta iv before u played it
@@miguelsalamera9386 and maybe his uncle got eagle eyes
12:58
Mishelle: Hey Niko, you look good. Let's find a car.
Niko: steals a car
Mishelle: Hey, I really like the new car, Niko
Ярослав Сорокин yeah 😁
Ayyyyeee Niko les go to strip club aye
xd
GTA Logic.
Ярослав Сорокин same with Kate.
Her stating that she comes from the Midwest when she has an almost perfect east coast accent is a huge sign I never realized.
I'm from the Midwest and her accent sounds like everyone I know in the Midwest lol
Right from the Midwest of the agency.
Hello
Even though her actress is Canadian
Americans don’t have accents unless your from NY or the south
Its so cool playing the story again and seeing how oblivious i was to all the signs that shes with the feds
Even something as simple as her complimenting Niko when he wears the same clothes. Implying that she bugged them and that she doesn't want him to change his wardrobe. Spiking his drink and then asking him questions was something I hadn't heard in my game until now. That was kind of cool, and messed up.
MiniMackeroni Wow youre right i didnt even think about bugging Nikos clothes. Game is so well thought out and 10 years later im still discovering things. My favorite detail is Niko's english improving throughout the story.
also what ive just realized is that when he first comes to her apartment and everything is like new, she says she's obsessed with cleanliness while apparently it was a set up apartment and everything was just bought straight in so it looks as if she really lived there
I caught on because if you say fuck it I'm gonna fuck and kill ho's she'll start calling you so I figured it was a trap like the G-man in GTA San Andreas holding your brother hostage.
game still better than gta 5
I honestly didn't even realize it was Karen in GTA V.
wow
To be honest? Me neither.
From what i remember I believe i skipped the cutscene because you were able to jump in at any point and i must have pushed the button bu accident. Either way I don’t believe i would have noticed either way.
Same
@@royery they look nothing alike
Makes me realize how much 13 year old me had no idea whats going on. It's so hilariously obvious she's trying to get dirt on Niko it's almost painful. (also i'm 24 now and I feel old)
Wait till you're 38
Literally in the same boat
i fucking thought they were telling bedtime stories or something
i was 7/8 when i played this 😂
Well i played this game just now for the first time and i'm 23, and even to me it was a surprise. I did thought she was weird, and she asked a bit too much about Nico, but i thought she was just suspicious that he was a criminal and thought she was as well. So she was just trying to bond on that or something, when i found out she was a cop i felt betrayed like hell.
1995 right
Even when having sex, Karen still wants to know if Niko is a criminal
LMAO "Tell me interesting things!"
TeLL ME M O A R
“WHO ARE YOU... Urgh... WORKING FOR?!”
🤣
She was his FBI agent
Jesus rewatching this, she played my 12 year old brain like a fiddle.
Hot coffee
@@Infinity9_ its called warm coffee
That is because the game is beyond the maturity level of 12 year old, yeah ya think !??!
She played you like a damn fiddle?!
Kazuhira “Brain-of-a-Twelve-Year-Old” Miller
man, apart from her undercover personality, she and niko would've been a great pair. I just couldn't feel it with Kate. everytime after this reveal, whenever I passed by "michelle's" house, I just felt sad. felt like a real break up lol
edit: yes Kate was the genuine one and Niko liked her too so it doesn't matter what I think really lol.
I like Kate lol but yeah, Karen is nice too
@@chrispena8186 Damn! Niko lost 2 Girlfriends, one abandoned him and the other one died (Canon Ending), Do you still think he will try again 3rd time?
@@mohdadeeb1829 I mean Niko can get other girlfriends by going on a dating site so there are more fish in the sea
@@davids1854
I mean, how much a person can Move On.
Niko had one back in Serbia, though her status is unknown.
Michelle was her Second girlfriend but she Betrayed him.
Kate was her third girlfriend and she died.
How Much a Person Can Move On?
Look at Max Payne, whose Wife died then Girlfriend died and since then he is alone. I really respect Pagan Min for that, after his girlfriend left him, he never got a Second one.
Same here bro... kindda sad. ... first date is always gonna be first 😂Kate is good to but Karen got that personality
"I'm not that easy Niko"
Has f*cked almost every single time they hang out
No. She just listens to Niko's story, Harder
Realistic
@@luigivelotti6174 yes luigi realistic
Wdym, the first 2 times they hung out they didn’t f*ck
I guess that's what you gotta do when you're an undercover fed.
Damn she showed so many signs of being with the feds yet nun of us saw it coming🤦🏽♂️😂
I never knew that either
i saw it coming from the moment she had new furniture
I saw it once i walked in her apartment
“Come on Mallorie, this is embarrassing, are you trying to *set us up*”
maybe because we were all 9 😂
7:19 Niko, casually holding a UZI "I really dont know about that kind of thing Michelle."
lol
It’s interesting how the conversations noticeably less awkward as the dates go on.
Doublepulse just like real life
Rockstar Logic:
Kill Johnny
Let Karen/Michelle live.
Edit 2 years later: Leave it to Ashley to screw everything up in GTA 5🤢
TheShifter1001 yeah I never understood that
Johnny Klebitz? If so then I agree
TheShifter1001 it was their game of thrones moment. Throwing away a fan favorite like garbage just to introduce you to a new character. Plus honestly, in the real world, that's how shit goes. People like Johnny don't make it especially being hooked to meth head.
Johnny fucking sucked. What made you like him?
KhAoz stfu gta 5 kiddo, what maked you like Trevor?
Notice how Niko sees that everything is new in Karen’s(Michelle) Apartment. These were small signs she just started doing her spy job.
I actually thought it was because the house was a cover, not her real house, so it makes sense that everything is new.
I presume a veteran spy would not make that mistake; Buying older stuff instead to be more realistic@@mustafaalpar266
Nah nah nah. It's a house the government gave her to "live" in. She's definitely not from Liberty City.
Damn traitor. I hope she returns in GTA 6 as killable character.
Ormi Ader yeah
Hell, yeah
yeah kinda lame you can't kill her and that tennis coach.
Bejdza basically an undercover cheating bitch
Everybody agrees. Once a treacherous bitch, always a treacherous bitch. Everyone holds a grudge against her. She ran away from being shot in GTA5.
Michelle:where are you taking me?
Niko:You look good
C A N I P A S S F O R A H O T C O F F E
HHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA S O F U N N Y
Michelle: TELL ME INTERESTING THINGSS
Niko: You look good
*Charisma 100*
Outstanding move!
I remember the first time I played GTA IV and thinking how poorly they had written Michelle's dialogue, then when it was revealed she was working undercover it suddenly all made sense.
Karen did love Nico, and she got her "life" back but 5 years later she's a husk of herself, a hardened government pawn doing dirty work. She won't have kids, close friends, or even someone to listen to her at the end of the day, yet this is the life she betrayed her lover for.
This is why GTA V sucked, we see characters we bonded with like Packie and Karen become shadows of their former selves.
In the end Nico's name (meaning Victory) makes a lot of sense, he's no longer in that life, he played the game and won. Something Karen and Packie can't say.
cfroi08 Yeah it’s harsh.
(I disagree with the GTA V opinion though. Even though the characters are hardened and difficult to get attached to, that game, IV, and San Andreas are easily the best games in the series.
Nico means Victory? In what language? His name means “No one”.
Pekithejam Niko means no one in Serbian. Mozda si srbin:)
Also sad seeing Johnny become a crackhead and die getting his face smashed in
@@Pekitheboy Niko in greek (and niko is a greek name at least originally, from Nicolaus) means to win. Nike, the sports clothes brand literally means victory. The proper way to pronounce it would be Nee-key.
I played story mode all the way though TWICE and I never caught onto how hard they were dropping hints about Michelle being a cop smhhhh 🤦🏻♂️
Bro, SAME!!! (._.)
Yeah, especially the part where michelle wants to know about vlad and what's he doing.
That's max Payne wife
I think we assumed she was just a sweet girl that was concerned because she barely knew him but when she asked for drugs so formal it had cop all over it 😭
I played it gta Iv at least a 100 times it was my favorite and even knowing she was the feds I still didn’t even notice it I guess being young could’ve been the reason but now being 20 years old I see all the signs 🤣🤣🤣
When karen moans, it sounds like she's being sarcastic
She doesn't moan tho
Flawless Floyd You call that moaning?
She's not moaning, she is happy to hear all the interesting things Niko tells her while drinking hot coffee
Yeah faking it to the max and niko is just eating it up lol I guess as long as he was getting some he was cool with it hahaha
@@MegaBlair007 well it sounds like they're having $€×
That cheesy voice acting.
TELL ME INTERESTING THINGS
Now that i look back it her being a cop and trying to sponge up information
she would always fake an orgasm while also trying to get information out of him during the act lmao
I think it's R* doing it as foreshadowing for her character. Since she's crooked.
Jose I think the whole fib is crooked
@@f1rebreather123
She's IAA, not FIB...
When I was kid, I thought they are just talking in the house
@fake account fuck you Ayy Chill down homie
@@snipestorm4555 fuck you too
Same here. I was like 'Damn, Michelle is so excited' 😂
@@c_mark5622 fuck u asshole
@@cheemsman6789 wipe my ass
I love how shy this man is when he first goes on the date when he has literally beat people in the streets
Its so sad how she went from happy sweet girl to a dark sad girl in only 5 years
ZedThe Gamer you mean 10 years since the game came out
Faisal Ghazi no it's 5 years. 2008-2013
CHRISPLAYER 95 lol yea U R right
2008-2018 10 Years from Now.
The Ghost Soldier Killer 5 years GTA 4 to GTA 5
PLEASE MORE, TELL ME MORE
TELL ME I N T E R E S T I N G T H I N G S
Y O U R S P E C I A L
*SPEAK UP*
NIKO BELLIC TELL ME MORE
"Speak up nigga"
-Sweet
She's a good listener
True. You’d think playing this game and hearing her ask all these questions, that she’s just written in the script to keep the player up to date with what to be aware of. Turns out it was just her being a rat. Well played Rockstar writers.
GTA IV: "I feel bad about this but I think it is for a good cause. I'm sorry."
GTA V: "I LIKE TORTURING PEOPLE BY SODOMIZING THEM LOL!"
Tommy Vercetti i really don't know how she turned from a spy but having regret for spying on niko and helping him to being heartless and taunting him while she talks about him in gta 5.
Because people like seeing old characters and ass insertion jokes are funny! Rockstar humor always has been rude but their satire and commentary in GTA IV was actually funny most of the time, in GTA V the humor got to retarded levels.
Tommy Vercetti sadly true. Even though i love gta 4, i can't resist remembering back in the days when people complained that gta4 was a step down from san andreas and the series as a whole.
GainedSalmon 3 not really most people liked it
That's her character arc. She betrayed the only person who loved her and now she's a husk of her former self. Deep down she hurts and it shows. She takes it out on people, anyone, innocent, guilty, suspicious, etc. She loved Nico and had to dump him in the worst possible way.
That "Hot Coffee" reference is pretty clever.
it's a reference to san andreas
@Tolga Öztürk basically rockstar planned to have a Sex minigame in SA that you would play after you accepted getting in for a "coffee" with one of your 6 girlfriends... the problem is since adult games were more restrict to younger people, that sex minigame would make GTA SA get tag 18 instead of 16, like every gta that came before, making it sell less due to Stores being more restrictive with adult games, so they cut it, the problem is, they didn't delete the Sex minigame from the game, they just locked it so no one could access it ingame, but a Hacker managed to find out this minigame, activate it, and turn it into a MOD for the GTA SA, and boy, that caused A LOT of trouble for rockstar, making they remove the 1 version of the game from stores, which made them lose A LOT of money with the sales, they got a lawsuit, and had to pay over 26 MILLION dollars, and basically they had to re-release their game, this time with the Hot coffe minigame fully deleted. nowadays it's just a huge meme, but boy on that time... it was Rockstar's worst nightmare... i guess that's why they don't like the modding community that much... but ye, lessons were learned about making sex games on your game...
@@naoaquieopatrickpatrick8565
16yr olds in the US can drive a car but not play a sex minigame in a game full of violence
I was thinking that very thing
Bro
Through interaction with severa military personnel I came to know that they always observe the small things....
Like Niko Bellec observing everything in the room is new. Nobody usually cares anything else than what a woman is wearing especially when it's a first date.
He spotted stuff as odd right from the get go.
Little things like this is what makes this game really amazing
*"Are those guys crooks"*
*"That crowd was full of criminals"*
Damn foreshadowing
Not foreshadowing per say. More like warning signs.
0:42 “Come on Mallorie, are you trying to *set us up*?”
@@Draftspike foreshadowing is exactly that, a warning sign...
Ahhhh the Nostalgia... 12 year old me with this big city to explore. Still in my top 10 birthday gifts.
SAMEE getting this with my 360
Damn really? I was like 6 when I played this
I was 5 did not even understand english. The only words i understood was "fuck you"
Tyler Klein shut the hell up, you are just a spoiled brat that thinks an old game is “trash”.
GTA 4 did not suck ass... sorry there were no raccoon masks for you to wear. Maybe you should go play fortnite you 15 year old casual.
Niko: *steals car*
Michelle: “I love the new car 😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻”
Holy shit does this guy even know how to crash a car?
Also you forgot the part where Niko gets out of the car cheat codes a rocket launcher and blows up Michelle.
@@mongellibill guess you didn't watch the whole video
19:08
@@evenstevensteven that was good
He crashes pretty early on lol
She looks so old in GTA 5. I give her ~25-28 in 2008 and 40 in 2013. Stressful job she has.
ZmeyScaletta I say 29-32 in 08 so in 13 she'd be (if we take the 32 route) 37 (if we take 29) 34 so I'm leaning toward 37 by V
Eveybody looks older in gta v
the maths is not mathsing🥴
She's 27 in 08 and 32 in 13
lol they all look old in gta 5
“Hey listen I respect you”. I gotta try that sometime
Just respect her. She'll notice, that's better than blurting it out.
When I played gta iv for the first time I didn't suspected her of being an agent, but looking back at it looks so obvious.
Because you were inlove
**steals car**
"Heyyyyy, I like the new car, Niko :)"
The difference between GTA IV and GTA V is so striking. In GTA IV, the karen character is serious, but cheeky. The joke is the situation, not the character. In GTA V, it’s just too much. That goes for every character. Everyone becomes the joke and everyone’s tryin to be a comedian
That's why I hate gta 5
GTA 4 story is realistic and makes sense. GTA 5 story is a fucking joke.
yeah gta 5 story felt like it was catered to cringy 12 year olds. gta 4 felt like an actual crime drama
@@Ignisan_66Your Correct GTA V Is Bad. But Imagine How Bad If They Made A Veshremy DLC That's Way To Far
All people have opinions here, just because u don't like a certain game doesn't mean it's the best, so f up gta4 fanboys
This is basically a Banging compilation for Michelle lmao
just like the title suggest :P
Damn niko makes a mean cup of coffee.
He picked up a few things from CJ.
He got that pipe on him, and I am not talking about plumbing.
(What is wrong with me)
The minute Niko said "some stuff have price tags on " , That's the time we should have realized Michelle works as government agent . This too shows Niko always has his eye on everything. After bowling , she was reluctant to tell about her job and was constantly counter questioning Niko . These were the beginning signs .
Michelle: I am a good listener you can talk to me about anything.
Niko: Can I come inside for a hot coffee
Then
Few minutes later
Michelle: oh Niko you are great Niko Belic, tell me more Niko Belic.
Niko After coming out of her house: She is a good listener.
@the mrt she's a fed though
@the mrt fair enough
@The Mrt But the CIA won't give a F
Ok...
"Fed women is a good listeners" 👀📝
One thing I always did kind of like about Michelle is that she seemed to keep Niko sane, almost happy. All the way up until she completely turned on him. Damn.
the fact that when they’re “having coffee” she says his full name so pronounced makes it seem like she was recording it for evidence or something 🤣🤣
"I'm not that easy"
You just slept with him like 4 times in 15 minutes...
Whats wrong with sleeping? she slept with him dosent mean shes a cheap shit. Well that man slept with her too
"Niko, it's your cousin! Let's go bowling!"
How did niko bust 4 time in 15 minute
@@sarahhaque9039 well if you sleep alot with someone and different peolle your cheap
@@sarahhaque9039 shes cheap she sleept with him so easily without getting married
A lot of characters from GTA 4 died in GTA 5 but for some reason the character almost everybody wanted to kill didn't die
Which one??
@@anonymousblank5635 karen/michelle.
Indeed.
@@shiroyasha7324 Just like King Courtney from GTA 3.
Anonymous Blank Life isn’t fair
25:06 - "You fucking bitch!" I knew that hurt her... that silence is deafening.
Also Little Jacob is the man.
a minor detail that can somehow demask Michelle/Karen...her car (the one used on the first date) is actually the regular version of the police car
Yes
It's based on the 8th generation Chevy Impala.
1:18 “He looks like he can’t afford to eat” lmao mallorie straight savage
1:16
1:16*
When I was younger and played gta 4, the cop reveal blew my mind. Replaying it, her being a cop was crazy obvious and I felt like an idiot for missing the hints
>Punches her square in the face
Later
>"I'm still mad at you, Niko"
>"I'm sorry to hear that, maybe I'll call back another time"
Man's got game
I don't think conversations with girlfriends are like that in real life.
mine are very similar!
She trying to make confess? Yeah, I think they are like that.
Dude it can be even simpler than that .
Girls come in different types and the aggressive ones will do all the talking . All you have to do is be there and reply
Kenny Michael Alanya exactly lol
Akeem B aye . I see ya on that uzi chopped & screwed
the fact that literally all of her furniture was new-
I literally had a shocked pikatchu face on me when I found out because of this video after so many clueless years
@@FilippmitF I still don’t get the furniture reference. Can you please tell?
@@prasadsawant4153 She is somewhat of an undercover cop and her job is to watch Niko - she lives somewhere else but the agency gave her this flat so she can be closer to Niko and that's why all the furniture is brand new
I hope that was understandable, I am not a native speaker
@@FilippmitF yooo thanks’
"Get the lube... Actually, Fuck the lube, lets dry dock him!"
I love that line.
What about “this thing is going to be so far up your ass your tonsils will be playing shadow puppets”
Hahaha
She called Niko damaged goods when the truth is that she is in fact damaged goods 😂
Seariously what drugs does Michelle do?
@@TheMasterUnity *smashes a hand with a 18 inch flashlight*
Niko: Let's go bowling then Karen
Roman: hey cousin, let's go bowling.
Niko: no
Lol
oh shit, im sorry!
Niko simp
Michelle: HeY nIko LeTs FinD a CaR
Niko: *Steals Car*
Michelle: I lIkE yOuR nEw CaR NiKo
0:00 Intro
0:14 GTA IV
29:53 GTAV
33:36 Another part of GTA IV
37:59 video ends
You truly are a Legend
My man
22:20 I'm glad to know that Niko Bellic is out here truly respecting women.
He also accepts homosexuality truly the most humane GTA protagonist.
34:46
The cop is literally right there as he said that.
Cop: ight good, respect ALLL, women.
@@adhamaziz9047 I'd really like if Rockstar was to make one of the protagonist for a future GTA game homosexual
Alexander Z. YES THE GAYS
"Feds are everywhere crime is done." *Laughs in GTA online*
the mrt She says crime is done but then like 3 more heists and updates came out proving her wrong
GTA 4 had unbelievably good writing. Much more sophisticated compared to 5.
GTA IV was the best!
Better writing, physics, police system (something's gta v did better but still.), shooting, characters and for me a really fun online for what it was back then, endless fun. Gta v is just not as good. Dont get me wrong gta v was awesome but it didn't hit like gta iv did, it was downgraded for a bigger open world and three characters, in my opinion not as cool as previous gta characters especially CJ although I really like Niko
@@eddielast6848 Spot on.
@@TokenChineseGuy bro not gonna lie everytime I comment on year old posts I never get a reply, I'm an over thinker so I assume they got a new account or are dead lol thanks for replying
@@eddielast6848 Yeah, I totally get that. TH-cam accounts seem to have a very high "turnover rate" and are abandoned or deleted often.
9:36 Niko has no idea how right he was.
Karen in GTA 4: cheerful and chill
Karen in gta 5: agressive
Haha I mean she was under cover in GTAIV
@@SOSO_CREPITUS except she felt more humane, calm, sweet, and didn't feel like she actually chose to betray Niko because she was an entirely evil person like Dimitri Rascalov, but because it's her job and she really didn't have any other choice. you can see how hard it was for her to be in that situation when she decides to tell the truth that she was working for the government the whole time, she knew there was no perfect time to confess her secret. in gta V, she felt like a completely different Person. I prefer Michelle in GTA IV more than Karen in GTA V.
Dude I won't lie, fucking R* made me fall in love with her and shattered my heart when they revealed her true character. Michelle was like the perfect girl... So sweet and nice and caring, and so cute. But fucking Karen...... R* really made me invest myself in a virtual character and then broke my heart
I guess that's a well executed story... And awesome editing by you as usual... Still boggles my mind how you keep track of all the instances where she was mentioned... Great job!!
ABCD27814 I had to stop playing for a while when I let Roman die. this game is pretty immersive
Loser
Man she was a fucking weirdo, she was constantly asking niko about crime and crooks and stuff, that made it so obvious that she was a goddamn cop.
She was weird because she didn’t tell anything about herself. She pretended to be that boring mid west girl that has no friends in NYC/LC. Remember the first bowling mission where the price tags were still on the furniture in her apartment. Little Details that gave it away. She also seemed to be too good to be true because she was immediately interested in Nico who just came “fresh off the boat”. She did never complain and was too loyal and there is no back story.
I wasn’t really surprised when she turned out to be a IAA/CIA agent.
ABCD27814 What. Its fucking pixels that keep asking about fictional criminal activities. "Perfect girl, cute" he says.
Wtf.
As Kylo Ren would say:TRAITOR
Niko, want to go bowling cousin?
KYLO REN:COWARDS
KYLO REN:DO NOT OPPOSE ME
KYLO REN:I WILL SHOW YOU THE DARK SIDE
Gta4 for life
12:50 “lets find a car”
12:59 *as they steal the car* “hey I really like the new car niko”
I laughed way too hard at that.
Just wanted to say that you should be proud of your content, man. Played GTA IV for the first time in 2008, and now, 10 years later, I'm back to playing it again (with another mindset in place, seeing things both the same for the nostalgia, and differently, now that I'm older), that's how I got to your videos. It's easy to see your passion to the GTA series and commitment in doing a top quality job in these videos. Thank you for your work mate!
I remember i lost my save after the first date and on my 2nd playthrough, Michelle actually let him inside, "for coffee" on the first date, young me felt like a P.I.M.P lol
8:17: Hey baby, does the carpet match the curtains?
Andrew Veale 🤣
Only Russian people will understand
This game was so oddly satistfying ... MicheIIe traitor having ass tho
Why oddly.
Why. Oddly.
WHY ODDLY
WILL I EVER UNDERSTAND
You know she probably did actually like Niko a lot... letting him inside after every date and all that.. I don't think that was on the job application
i miss these character videos haha.
"I think you tried to slip some pill into my drink"
5 minutes later
"Can you make me a coffee?"
7:38
*kissing*
someone in the background- "come on I have some shit to do"
9:15 "Hot Coffee" lol
It always works ;)
MV nice and hot lol
i didnt think you could smash her but when she she said he could come upstairs i was shocked
It is reference to the hot coffee mod in GTA San Andreas
When you realize you forgot to plug in your headphones in front on ur mom
In all honesty I thought she was just nosey when I first played this.
Now, she’s just a bad actor who fooled 9 year old me.
Michelle: We need a car Niko
*Steals a car right in front of her*
Michelle: Love the new car Niko!
maybe that’s how niko has a record in the lcpd database for grand theft auto
Karen legit broke my heart when I ran through this the first time as a 10 year old kid
Rockstar should've added her into the Doomsday Heist as that dlc is focused on the IAA. There would be some funny interactions with ULP and Karen
It would be kind of nice to see more of the real her. She was basically just a plot device in iv
Randomguy2324 True but you could say she was the tutorial girlfriend. Would've been nice for a special ability from her too.
Idk I mean she liked him. Niko could have hired a PD or have Ray use his European connections.
Rockstar threw her in to make the player feel betrayed.
ULP's dead
@@Tony-The-Motherfucking-Tiger he's actually not no matter how you kill him in GTA 5 the mission "The Wrap Up" he's still alive in GTA Online Doomsday Heist
This dynamic was fuckin wild lmfao, 27:05 is such a good cutscene, really shows her (barely) struggling between her job and being human. Sociopathic shit. She was the most terrifying character in the GTA series imo. "You'll get a Sammie, if you care about that sort of thing"
what's a sammie?
@@Sumnerstraina sandwich, i guess he was referring to: a cut or money
"Most terrifying character in the GTA Series..." Haven't you met Eddie Low yet?
36:34
*SO EPIC*
got that on repeat. it just fulfills every game's fan dream about her
Ha
How much effort it must have been to create all this stuff.. really impressed by the diversity of this game.
And I am so happy that this game is still appreciated
29:18 I love those unplanned calls form Roman😂
I want Niko and Michelle to return in GTA 6. Something GTA has never done is continue a story or reunite characters and it would be interesting if they crossed paths again. I think Niko would be the only person that could make her stop acting like a psycho.
I agree, That would be the perfect groundbreaking hit storyline for the next installment, a lot of fans were mentioning an interesting idea for Rockstar to make their first GTA female protagonist. In this case why not make a group of them: Michael's wife: Amanda, Trevor's love interest: Ursula and Franklin's girl: Liz and then Karen could be like the antagonist but in the end she comes face to face with Niko again and he tries to steer her away from her current lifestyle just like Dom did with Letty on Fast 6.
@@treondousjackson73 well you got the female protagonist right
Good way to wrap up niko closure
@@treondousjackson73Never let this guy cook again 💀💀
10:06
'yeah, ive never dated a foreign guy before - a lot from another planet, but not from another country.' LOL
19:40
How music fits Niko's drunk movements 🤣🤣🤣I almost pissed myself laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
2:33 Even the kitchen walltile is new, it was _just_ about to apply itself!
Every recurring character’s personality has changed drastically from IV to V. Johnny went from badass “drugs are bad mmmk” to a pussy meth addicted, Michelle went from “you killed people” to “oh that bank, that was you”, Packie robbing shit after losing his brother during a robbery, etc.
Was that made on purpose, so they match more the Los Santos atmosphere? Or poor writing? I really don’t get it.
I'd say the former. I feel like they tried a little too hard to distance themselves from the tone of IV. Similar situation to the Watch Dogs games lol
@@navyhusky2020 don't even compare. Watchdogs began as shit, and ended up as shit. GTA just went from masterpiece to good enough.
@miloradowicz I only said it was a similar situation as a whole. Not that they're in any way equatable. Chill lol
Imagine if she did that on Tommy Vercetti instead.
“WHY DID YOU DO THAT, KAREN?!”
@Templar Gaming well, he didn't shoot Catalina
THAT'S ALL WE HAD KARENNN
"YOU SOLD US OUT"
Feel bad for those who didn't get the reference 😔
I really loved michelle she was so caring, sweet, and pretty. Its so sad to see her rot like this
I can’t believe it’s been over 7 years since I played gta4 yet it still feels so fresh in my head. I remember how bugged I was getting used to the new graphics and gunfire sounds. Sometimes i get confused about what was in 4 or 5, and recall setting up on top of a building and sniping tourists who went for the heli-tours over by the piers.
i remember playing that first mission in the video and i didnt know how to honk and so i was just stuck there and i stopped playing. I was like 8
H4TV lmao
THAT WAS ME ALSO
She did a complete 180. Wonder why R* didn’t just make a new character in GTA V
RochRich Different writers.
I think it made perfectly sense. In GTA IV she was just collaborating with the feds, maybe after getting out of an awful situation. The years passed and she made carreer becoming more and more cynical as she got into that world. I like the way she changed actually
More experienced agent that's probably getting more and more fed up with the shit
Andre Bailey No it was to show that Karen got what she deserved. A bitter woman in her 40's with no man, no family, and no friends. Because she gave up the only person she truely loved.
It's sad that GTA V ties up the loose ends of GTA IV in the worse possible way, all the characters end up killed or depressed and drawn into the same lifestyle that destroyed them.
@@cfroi08 Kind of like how reality works, right?
love the old classic youtube video presentation, can imagine if ads and all that view count bullcrap didnt exist today
Honestly it's been so long since I've played GTA VI that when I played V and saw her I didn't even connect the dots and notice she was the same character in both games.
Damn, you played GTA VI early?
Original Comment - Mallorie sounds like Lois Griffin
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Sejn Hu Not really. Lois is not Puerto Rican. You must be talking about their word inflections.
TheTimoprimo You get what I mean.
Lol
Yea they both have that annoying nagging voice.
We all love her sarcasm and constant questions
We don't see her much now .she must be at Walmart asking for the manager
Nice job updating, great work.
Yes.Its unique to see GTA LCS artwork 2018
test420 :D