Keep Your Primaris Off My Space Marines!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.พ. 2021
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They’d better not get rid of drop pods, otherwise you’d be unable to perform multiple simultaneous and devastating defensive deep strikes, in a manoeuvre known in the codex Astartes as Steel Rain.
Not to mention the Rhinos. They might look like metal boxes but taking them away would cowardly and foolish.
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@@Ventruethful we shall take away there METAL BOXES : chaos lord probably
We shall fall upon the foe! We shall overwhelm them! We shall leave none alive!
Ah, spoken like a true Spehss Mahreen!😂
Space Marine Heroes 2 termies are actually well proportioned and didnt skip leg day
That's my biggest gripe with termies, I hate how spindly their legs look.
@Mus Musculus all my homies run lernian termies
Honestly love those models so much😂 basically made a whole army just outta them and I don’t even play deathwing lol
@@alpharius7216 all my homies run saturnine terminators
Preparation issue? You can't change the classic 90s look
As Gabriel Seth said : 'They are not reinforcements, they are replacements'.
Seth is a stubborn ass
@@dominicvucic8654 Oh Gods yeah, but he's not wrong.
"They're not replacements! They're just stronger... less corruptible... and easier to make on top of it all, requiring barely any training or any time in a scout company... But they're just reinforcements!" - Beliasspullius Cawl, Probably
'It has more variants than other races has models' unfortunatly true :'(
sad
Land raiders are like pokemon, "Gotta catch them al"
I hope they don't get rid of the Boxnought. I love that stumpy legged boy!
So many options. The redemptor can't compare.
The boxnought has style the primaris has ridiculous
Mortis dreadnought with quad heavy bolters kicks the shit out of primaris via rule of cool every single time.
Please some one help me. I can't stop ordering dreadnoughts
@@stoyboii 13 wounds, 5 Attacks with S16 D3+3 punch.
For clearing horde: 2 Gatling Cannon and Storm Bolter.
For clearing tank: AP-4 Plasma on Steroid
Yeah keep telling yourself Redemptor can't compare, even a Leviathan have problem with Redemptor
Id rather have the old imperial guard regiments recasted than getting a bunch of new sm models every year. But who am i to judge gw.
I agree, there are a lot of factions that need more help model wise than the marines.
@@kodishkhan1 Like Eldars, how long did they had the same models? :D
@@alekjanowski9847 Those Eldar minis are really eldarly.
I think guard's problem is there isn't much money to be made, there's so many non GW guard kits out there they can't really stand out for the money they'd have to spend to make the new molds and tooling. That said Auspec Tactics suggested a Great-Coat kit which could let you build semi custom guard in the style of those trench coat wearing guard regiments and swap out hats and other accoutrements
@@kodishkhan1 I feel like the death korps of krieg should at least get models
4:35 "The Landraider has more variations than some armies have units"
That joke surely pleased Cegorach
Ooo! An opinion piece! Let me start: WRONG WRONG WRONG!
Watching this two years later and looks like you got your wish on the terminators and land raiders.
Regardless of the Primaris additions, a lot of the firstborn stuff can't be binned because it supplements the Horus Heresy range (e.g. Land Raider, Rhino, Bikes)
... Until they close down the Horus Heresy range.
@@stormisuedonym4599 yeah about that
@@thenerfkid9228 I'm as pleasantly surprised as you are.
If I've a gripe with Primaris, it would have to be over the hover tanks. The only metal bawkses that should fly are land-speeders (and the occasionally bike)
i do, hehe flying, if it's a problem, just have them float like 2 feet above the ground in ya mind.
They don't fly though? They hover off the ground a foot/couple of feet or so. they aren't like Eldar tanks that can literally fly. Also, the tech has existed before for the Imperium in the past. Custodes/SoS used to have grav-rhinos, but they "no longer exist" apparently. So there is a precedence for the tech/use of said tech, but they should have been brought back for use in 40k (both lore and TT) before Primaris were a thing. Would have made the transition less jarring I guess.
People complaining about Space Marines getting replaced/updated. Meanwhile I am out here with Craftworld models older than me that are still the newest.
I guess it's a good compromise if nobody is really happy...?
You must be pretty young then. Plenty of updated Eldar models.
@@thepatriotbadger7637 You must be an Imperial Fist because you're oblivious to nuance. And not really all the same.
@@attemptedunkindness3632 Ha ha no, but I do play every faction. I am mostly a Salamanders Player.
Hahahaha I feel you. I had a HUGE Eldar/Craftworld army in like 2006... Getting back into Warhammer recently it's funny how like maybe two units have updated models... and just slightly updated... After 15 years my Craftworld Eldar are still current... In the last two decades the only armies that have seen noticeable change are Tyranids, Space Marines, Chaos (a little bit) and Necrons. Classic core armies like Eldar, Orcs, Imperial Guard (i know they have new names) are basically running models from 3rd edition in the early 2000s
I actually prefer the look of the classic marines in general. I hope they never get fully phased out.
I'll admit that the Primaris characters tend to look pretty good. But the troops looks really, really bad, and the vehicles (maybe save for the bikes) are just inexcusable. Real Marines have so much more variety and character, and I disagree with this guys insistence that they are bad models just because of the way the legs are posed. We've seen really decorated Marine kits through the Space Wolves, Blood Angels, and Dark Angels, so we know that they can look like. If GW did a minor scale to the real Marines (like lengthening the torsos a bit and widening the hips) and gave them a little more detail while still keeping that look, those kits would look amazing. This guy's foolish idea that poses are what makes Primaris Marines better is ridiculous.
"Angry black templar on their hands" So, a Black Templar ?
The worst part about primaris is they are a bunch of vanilla units hammered in non codex chapters, GW could easily have rescaled marines just like they did with chaos ones and nothing would have happened, I have survived two rescalations before but intead, they decided to create the awful primaris fluff and lots of strange grav things and this is what brings my conclussion:
GW never ever will fully substitute the old marines with primaris, maybe new improved kits or maybe changing things and making every unit and vehicle primaris compatible, why?
Some units and vehicles are so iconic and even all non codex chapters have a ton of exclusive troops and things: discontinuing things like terminators, thunderwolves, sanguinary guard or way old fan favorites like wolf guard, assault marines or even the humble rhino is a suicidal move for their star range
for me, it is the lore that killing me. I could get over verhicles with so much dakka it would orc blush but the LORE.
>Guilliman is now hypocrite who forced his Codex into everyone yet order 1 millions super marines with more specialisation units than Eldar have aspects warrior
retcon it into Guilliman ordering secret ten thousand marines for every first founding chapter, located close to their homeworld without their knowledge so they could reinforced them or suprise attack them in case of HH2. But Cawl highjack the whole program for.. I dont know... but everything is better than what we have now
>Cawl being excuse for everything
>every chapter going nilly willy with the idea that they will be replaced, when outside of Ultramarines going full "daddy notice me" it should cause civil war
>the dead silence about logistic issue, when we are talking about an empire that givies its front line soldiers a glorified flashlight because it is cheaper than real guns
>I will paraphrase my feelings using Homers speach about Poochie "Primaris needs to be louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine. Two, whenever Primaris not onscreen, all the other characters should be asking "where are primaris?""
Exactly. It could have easily been a rescale, a new mark of power armour, or even *just* reinforcements. It doesn't have to be this stupid, bestest ever super special betterest Marines crap with their totally not utter heresy grav vehicles and sudden influx of armaments, nor does it have to be Robot Gilligan pissing off the Legions even more by forcing his Codex crap in people's faces. No part of this was a good move.
I don't see them replacing the Rhino. Between Razorbacks, Vindicators, Predators and Whirlwinds, the low-parts Rhino template has far too many variants to justify discontinuing it. I mean, all they gotta do to make the variants is add an extra sprue or two. Compare that to the Repulsor, which only has 3 variants and a lot more parts to it.
I have been in this hobby for about 5 years which is a short amount of time compared to some die hard hobbyists out there, but I honestly prefer primaris, it's just the resin is nice and it's such a great model to paint and looks good to play with.
@Rose Marine GW still supplies some 'Finecast' resin minis, and even a few metal minis.
Plus, resin is generally fine.
Deformations is a symptom of poor quality resin - a lot of Chinese recasters have better quality then Forgeworld.
Resin is only slightly worse than plastic, but is much cheaper to set up, which is why their party retailers use it.
Again my lack of knowledge, I just meant that the plastic is really niceeee :)
I agree, my Finecast Ironhands kit from GW is pretty much crap, I may be able to use about 2/3 of the pieces.
I kinna wish Gw would just give Primaris the Deathwatch/Grey knights treatment and make them their own line, they have enough models for it
I hope that tactical squads just get a Primaris update rather than being squatted. Primaris look nice, but they suck major ass when it comes to flexibility. An Intercessor squad has three weapon loadouts to choose from, not including sergeant weapons. Tactical squads, by contrast, have nine that can be mixed and matched, allowing for greater versatility.
EDIT: and if they do away with the boxnaught I will march over to GW's HQ and take a fat shit right on James Workshop's desk.
Or at least give Intercessors the ability to take special and/or heavy weapons.
Imagine training years just to become a head poking out of a buggy lol
@@paulyg405 I dislike the ATV, could have just stuck a servitor as the gunner, that's already the case for the Stormraven, or just cover it up. But it Still doesn't change the fact that Attack/Assault Bikes are still cooler.
The Servo turret on the other hand, i hate.
It already has "Servo" in the name, why the hell does it need to be crewed? Did the Mechanicum forgot how to make Tarantulas, should have just gave those walking legs and make good with the name.
Wait... Drop pods are old?!?! Damn I'm old... I remember the kit coming out and finally being able to get one not from forgeworld... Still feels new to me. Especially compared to my 1993 marines.
Relatable. I still view Cadian shock troops and Catachan jungle fighters as new fangled Imperial Guard (none of that Astra Militarum rubbish).
@@LordDickBelvedere I miss the metal vallhallans...
EoB: eliminators
* Procedes to show inceptors *
Primaris Somethingsomethingors
Lol said the same thing to myself. Whoops. Still a good vid.
Still don't know why they didn't allow any 3 primaris models to ride in a drop pod or landraider from the get go to ease players into getting into them.
Do look forward to Primaris Terminators being on Dreadnaught bases.
@@shakyrob6512 yeah, new marine models are always cool but I have to admit that I'm a Grey Knight sucker since about 2 years ago and I've never had the courage to start a new army, and looking at their datasheet doesn't help, I know that the fact that every unit can cast spells is super strong demands some balancing in other area but dude, strike squads 1 wound a model is bullshit, in the lore they are the elite of the elite of space marines the fact that asingle lucky lasgun shot can kill a grey knight is infuriating and I would gladly giveaway a year of SM updates if that meant that GK would get some love
Primaris would be fine with me if everyone got new kits that got made to scale
That's what Primariis should have been in the first place.
Retroactively ruined my og space marines
GW: "What 40K faction needs new models/kits? I know! Space Marines!"
Also GW: "How come nobody plays xenos? I guess if we're gonna make new stuff it oughta be Space Marines for all those Space Marines players!"
Primaris would be fine if the skipped the "lore update" and just made bigger spoise marine minis.
@@kraeutemall They wouldn't be able to get players to re-purchase their entire Space Marine collections in that case, which was really the point.
Honestly thought they were already ditching termies for gravis armor. Proper Primaris Terminators would be rad, though.
We'll definitely get primaris terminators eventually. They'll save them for the next big space marine line launch - so before we get new nids and imperial guard.
Bladeguard were their experiment to see if the old space marine aesthetic sold better than the tacticool vanguard launch. And it did instantly.
Ye have enough models
@@knightpaladin9841 I play nids. I aint seen shit in over a decade!
@@Cirac1 *cries in craft world Eldar*
@@KoteDarasuum Cries in Sisters of Battle for 16 years.
I'm basically told every time i go into the 40k community "Your faction is dying lol, all those old models you're buying are gonna get squatted lol"
Fuck those kinds of people. Buy, paint and play with whatever you want! Paint them however you want, rule of cool baby, that's all that counts in my book!
one of the guys who has written multiple editions of my main faction's codex has outright stated in the past that the very existance of my main faction was a mistake and GW should stop making them (I play Tyranids. take a wild guess who the codex writer was)
@@Eclipsed_Embers Matt Ward?
@@will4127 Robin Cruddace. Thankfully Ward never went near the Tyranids.
Here's a long reddit post that explains the issues far better than I could www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/ditg0m/warhammer_40000_the_pyrovore_or_why_people_hated/
The joke is on them. Collectors like myself will be paying high prices for those "older models" once they fall out of production. The value on the older models will only increase with age; even if those old models are made obsolete, tactically speaking, by newer ones...
It’s GW they’ll mess it up. Look at what they did to the dreadnaught
Isn't repulsor pretty much a primaris land raider
It sucks as a troop transport. Too many points, cant disembark in a turn it moved, too easy to blow up.
A better looking one
@@sknntv1434 all of these problems are still present in lamdraider, it was always too expensive of a transport
@@atlas6538 True, and you don't see people complain much about the Landraider just because its not new.
I strongly dislike the Repulsor. The only Primaris vehicle that I think is worse is that ATV thing.
Cataphractii is best terminators armour. Change my mind
Blackstone Fortress is done, unfortunately they'll never make another expansion for it.
Yes and no. Maybe not expansions for the current BSF, but looking at Warhammer Quest, I'm betting they'll release BSF 2.0 at some point.
I hope they find an excuse to re-release the heros from it. They are awesome for Kill Team.
they could just easily drop in quest lines in white dwarf if they wanted to give the players of BSF something new now and again , let them use models they own already .. much like Warcry did with when they introduced warband cards for existing AOS armies not part of the warcry core kits ....
they have released so much stuff model wise for BSF now it would really just be easy for them to pop out maybe once a year a 4 page white dwarf mission expansion with a few datasheets for some other factions models
@@williamings773 I'm certain that when they were first releasing the Ambull expansion GW claimed that one day all of the Blackstone stuff would be available outside of the game. perhaps they're waiting until the very last BSF stuff has been sold before releasing anything seperately.
once the legacy marines are gone primus marines will just be called marines. rogue trader marines were smaller than second edition marines. and when the marines were updated to the sprue kit in third edition they were slightly bigger still.
the land raider looks completely different in the second edition and about halfway through the third edition when the current rino chassy and land raider were introduced. i do like the idea of transports deploying smoke when the troops disembark.
Yeah, we survived the transition from beaky to Mk7 armour so the Primaris releases probably won't end the world. For what it's worth, I agree that the Primaris infantry is great but the vehicles? A bit of a mixed bag. I don't mind the hover tanks but the Mario Kart and the "Stealthy" warsuit just leave me cold.
The transition to Primaris is much bigger than that was. As it is, it's still possible to use most Rogue Trader era Marines and have proper rules for them. Once everything non-Primaris is out, this will no longer be possible.
I'd be happy if they made the next-gen Firstborn true to scale - and even happier if they did the same with the various flavors of Chaos marines.
@@stormisuedonym4599 Just making them true-scale 'Firstborn' wouldn't have solved GWs need to push new kits and undercut the second-hand market.
I expect that Chaos will be getting some new kits, but if you expect their rules to be anything to match Primariis, you're going to be disappointed.
Thank you for making this. I have been saying that the land raider and the drop pod don't need to be replaced and should be used by primaris
Well, the primaris look 100x better than the old models. They have actual human proportions. They even have knees
I'm ready for the astra militarum to not look derpy anymore.
At this rate, you'll still be waiting in 2030, unfortunently. RIP all non marine players.
Whilst they are old the cadian and catachan kits are awesome, customisable with heavy weapon teams and command squad parts... Ive been away from this hobby for so long and come back to them still not releasing plastic (squad/heavy/command) of valhallen, mordian, tallarn etc.... They just discontinued the metal models so now no one can play them? Guess you gotta paint those cadians different colours...
@@alexkaplan6581 we have new necron models and are well on the way with new orks, the tau and tyranids only need new codex’s honestly, so that leaves the guard, sisters of battle and eldar, by 2030 we’ll probably have one of those 3 left and I’m betting it won’t be the guard
The Land raider was the first 40k vehicle i ever bought back in the day and now i own 6 of them :) it'll will be a day of mourning when the raider passes.
Well, this did age well with terminators! Wish granted 🙂
I really agree on the drop pod! I looks so iconic, it can't be changed
this vid speaks out of my soul
I really hope Tartarus & Cataphractii get more love. They’re both so amazing and I really love their unique options
Arent they currently just lumped into "Relic Terminators" now?
@@Cirac1 yeah which is a crying shame considering Relic terminators are just tartaros with a few more wargear options. Cataphractii armor has lost the extra protection it granted. No more super tankyness. Sad times.
The Repulsor is already the direct replacement for the Land Raider. It carries 5 gravis (Terminators) or 10 normal infantry.
The Repulsor even uses a modified land raider hull from memory.
Looking forward to a proper drop pod though. As a Dark Angels fan I am concerned how they're going to potentially ruin terminators.
I don’t think they’ll ever abandon classic marines. In fact, I reckon when they eventually bring Lion El’Johnson in 40k they’ll likely redo a bunch of Firstborn kits (the First Born Primarch leading a firstborn revitalisation, it would be thematic and fluff, what with his distaste for Guilliman). Also from a purely financial perspective, the Firstborn kits are still some of GW’s bestsellers and once GW gets a whole heap of new Marine fans through the Primaris, why wouldn’t they go back and get some of that sweet nostalgia cash? Also the Horus Heresy game is still being supported by Forge World which is entirely classic marines and they’ve shown their commitment to bring back older material with the upcoming Old World setting, I can’t see the OG marines going anytime soon.
I pray for that.
15 years ago it was the firstborn Black templars i Fell in love with.
Also if we ever get a New templar Supplement it would also be a great Chance to Update firstborn.
After All templars too are one of the few chapters that possible use firstborn more than other chapters.
The problem with the "but Horus Heresy/Forge World" argument is that GW doesn't give a shit about Forge World. They never have. If Corporate decides to move in a new direction, they'll just can the Horus Heresy line.
Though pointless wishlisting, I'd love to see real Space Marines get a revival. Maybe Primaris Marines turn out to be a big failure and can't be produced en masse, meaning real Marines have to keep coming. Or maybe real Marines becomes the veterans of the chapter, kind of like how we use Mk 3-5 power armour models for Vets. Or maybe there is a soft civil war among the Astartes and half of the chapters (maybe led by some defiant Primarchs, or maybe not) tell Robot Gilligan to stuff it and go home. Actually, that last one sounds good. Primaris Marines bring too much hope to the Imperium, and we know that there can be no hope in this universe. A soft civil war among the Imperium would further shake up the setting and blur the lines beyond total loyalist and total heretic. After all, there are no "good guys" in 40k.
The suspense waiting for you to say land raider was worth it
Terminator chaplain is gone, what's next...
what? the terminator chaplain exist lol
I litterally just got into Warhammer and my favorite faction is going away
Primaris Marines are the 80's Saturday Morning cartoon version of regular Space Marines. I think He Man is the inspiration for most Primaris models.
I remember seeing the current landraider kit when it previewed at Gamesday UK in '98, I had just walked into The Fat Bloke, Paul Sawyer of White Dwarf. I don't know what I was more in shock over, walking into the legendary Paul Sawyer or how amazing that kit was. I have a Rogue Trader landraider, it's good for the time, but compared to new kit, it's bad, it's small, the weapons snap off by breathing on it, there's zero fine detail and it's been badly painted by a 16 year old me. The current landraider is one kit I will never bitch about needing replacing, though more dakka is always appreciated.
And a nice touch on the kit, especially given the age of the kit, the front doors on the landraider are hinged, so opening one opened the other. It's a little detail only those with OCD notice, but it's still nice to see.
Rhinos too! I want to keep my metal bawkses!
EonsOfBattle hit with that nostalgia
What they did with chaos terminators and tacticals was perfect way to update
as usual, fantastic suggestions. and yes, we need thunder warriors. or I`ll just use the ones I built :D
GW watching this video for what to change next ;)
The Repulsor is the Land Raider replacement...
Something cool might be “firstborn heros.” Lore accurate and cool!
As a player that only joined after 8th ed started and primaris were already here therefore having no attachment to first-born, the only one of these I agree with is the drop pod. Gravis is primaris terminator equiv; change my mind, and the bricks with backwards tracks need to be melted down for scrap to build more Basilisks and Russ'.
Hey, you nailed it. Deathwatch NEED first born to stand out.
i think primaris overall look much cooler but the old helmets are so iconic, i hope they make some primaris with those old-school grills
Don't need anymore space marines
The old helmets and shoulder pads still fit primaris. So Ebay and forgeworld parts work great for unique primaris units.
Many of my Iron Hand Primaris have old heads, shoulders and backpacks. It's simple part swap. replasing hands is a bit trickier but i was able to hide it with augmentic.
Primaris lore is bullshit tho
The Land Raider can also transport Custodes btw.
Its hard to put stock into someone that refers to firstborn as "legacy marines"
The land raider looks like a lunch box. More specifically the boxes from Lego Slicers which we used as lunch boxes back in the day. xD
Updated terminators. Yes!
Terminator wargear needs just these: NO -1 to hit for power fists/thunder hammer (they are the best of the best with the strongest motors, their normal fists should be power fists), terminator blessed ammunition (aka special issue ammo, give them like 3 profile to choose from when shooting and make their storm bolter special and dent vehicles, horde and special bois all the same)
The -1 To hit was a trade off of their old rule of "always strikes last". They were always unwieldy, trading off speed for damage.
Ammunition would be cool but it may be stepping on the toes of Deathwatch a bit, that was always their thing. Though Terminators having their own special pattern storm bolter would be cool. They would probably get a primaris version, like a Heavy Storm Bolter.
Primaris marines: exist.
Loyalists: Not sure if heresy...
Land Raider is already replaced by the Repulsor. This is the direct translation (as the impulsor is the rhino/razorback and the gladiator is the predator). Their rules are questionable btw.
One way they could approach it, is to put the older version on forgeworld.
Whilst the land raider is iconic, much like the imperial guard tanks too, they look like they belong in ww1 rather than the 41st millennium. The baneblade would be a good starting point however as it at least looks closer to 20th and 21st century tanks.
With the advent of Repulsors and Gladiators, they probably won't change the Land Raider simply because it's already been *replaced* by a 'superior' primaris version.
Same with the Terminator tbh, I feel like we'll just keep getting Gravis models rather than actually getting a Primaris Terminator, given Gravis practically is just the Primaris equivalent of Terminators
I’ve always found it off that people compare gravis to terminator armor when I always saw it more like a centurion, though maybe that’s just the appearance rather than actual gameplay
I love my metal box razorback and predators
I wish they would add a shoot version of the outriders
James Workshop has noted the threat and called the police
I hope the command squad get a primaries update
Is it just me, or he said James Workshop? And theoreticly, thunderwarrion could appear in blackstone fortress. Few of thunderwarriors are still alive and live on terra. Kork, i'm not sure.... but maybe?
I thought there life span was only 150 years though
anything is possible in 40k! just say it is warp shenanigans
@@EonsOfBattle ah yes the warp
@@alphariusomegon3965 Theoreticly yes... But on terra there was one gang commanded by thunderwarriors. They yoinked the space marine geneseed, and later stole primaris geneseed too... so they are nearly immortal.
@@EonsOfBattle Ah yes. I wait for chaost primaris... But warped orks and thunderwarriors would be nice too.
I own a grand total of two Primaris Marines. Since I have at least 80 metal marines, from the nineties, I have zero need for these models. When it comes down to it, I won't be replacing my marines. EVER
Besides the fact, there are way more interesting models out there to build and paint, than Space Marines.....
I would love to see primarus size terminators, if we get this how bout some deathwing knights and black knight upgrades too.
primaris termies are 2023 release. guarantee that there will be an (insert chapter here) upgrade sprue/eventual boxes of (insert chapter here) termies as well
@@TheSpencer033 I wouldn't be surprised, so 2030 chaos might get equivalent upgrade, that sound about right?
@@keldon_champion chaos kind of already have their rescaled marines/termies (at least for DG 1kSons so far), so I doubt it will take that long. Khorne termies will probably come with Angry Ron/World Eaters Codex, or shortly after, and eventually Emps Children will get them too. Khorne update is already leaked and almost here (i think its supposed to be this winter/early 2023), so I say give it a year, at most 2, and you will have primaris termies. no armies ever get any updates without marines/primaris getting either some updates or new models/units either at the same time/shortly after. cant let anyone else have cool shit unless the paypig marine knobgobblers get something so they dont cry.
so I doubt you will have to wait too long
@@TheSpencer033 ya that's true I didn't think about the specialty terminators, I just think it will be awhile for the vanilla ones, honestly I was more just poking fun at how long I had to wait for my 9th ed codex, it has been painful especially the 2 wound marine thing where we knew it was coming for years now.
Id say the Land raider has already had its death warrant signed by the big grav tank monstrosity
That one with the terminators…
That one happend.
Uhhh the Land Raider was the FIRST vehicle to get Primarisized. xD
lol shh let him keep his dreams. one could arguee that they are a completely different branch since they are not dedicated troop transports and more infantry support vehicle were the land raiders really were for moving lots of troops and thats about it.
a thunder warrior would be very interesting
Okay maybe I am just old enough to have lived before the great crusade, but let me tell you this:
The new Landraider looks better than the first one. (and both are equally expensive)
I was playing at a time were dreadnoughts were called Cybots (and you had 4 different to choose from), the Tau were speculated to be mercanaries for 40k armies and the first ever produced Landraider hit the stores. (and then I met my wife to be and paused for 20 years)
They have added so much to the game, changed so much in the overall design (even the Cataphractii or Tartaros Terminator armor did not exist), so I am not mad about them given a nearly 40 years old army a refresh to their design.
Also I like how they included the multi use of the "Dreadnought chassis" of the redemtor.
Without the sarkophagus its piloted directly. And later it can be converted to be the last rest for said pilot.
I started in the hobby last year, and i had discussions with the old guard. Basically, as a newby, i'm very satisfied about Pirmaris Space Marines, and i even plan on updating some model like Terminators, or Devastators.
BUT as a new son of the first, i will not update the Deathwing Knights out of respect.
In other words “I want classic space marine stuff, without the classic space marines”.
Nah. No. I want MK 1 to 8 space marines with the new chaos space marine/space marine heroes size, and no fused together torsos, the way it should have been.
Best case would see these newer kits retaining compatibility with the older ones so you can still use forge world upgrades.
You basically cut out half of your marine market (Chaos Conversions and 30k) with Primaris because there is no way to run that type of model in a force. Making miltipart true scale marines in different armour marks would have seen CSM, SM and 30k players replacing their entire armies; not just new players starting Primaris and older players (often) feeling alienated by them
Deathwatch legs work really well; they're almost the size of primaris legs and can be converted easily by just scraping the inquisition logo off. You can also make tue firstborn torsos a lil' more to scale if you cut out the abdomen part and extend the chestplate a bit downwards, but that's a harder conversion.
@@alexcismaru713 yeah, already did that the death watch. Recently I’ve started using the new chaos marines, it’s a pain removing the chaos icons and spikes but they turned out pretty good in the end.
I want primaris drop pods soooooo badly. I watched some old battle reports where dudes would have almost all infantry and just drop drop pods to let more out and its sooooooooo freaking cool. I don't own any normal ones yet but I plan on getting a few and even though I'll probably be running subpar lists I won't care, cause how awesome it'll look
i remember the first week and day leading to the new release of the land raider tank.
My local comic shop sold it to me one week ahead of release schedule ! And i converted it into CHaoS!
This was an interesting video
The thunder warrior + Krork expansion idea got me thinking. I really want some digganobz inspired models for Blackstone fortress. Or add them as a self contained kill team like they did with elucidian startstriders and gellerpox infected
seeing as Blackstone Fortress is over and done there's no chance of that. perhaps in the next 40K themed Warhammer Quest
It would be great to keep the old models alive if there was a campaign book for the scouring period
The best way to Primaris the land raider would be to add a primaris marine with a saxophone to the top...
One of my biggest issues with Primaris is the fact they removed the threads from everything and the "open" design, like take that ATV put some threads on it, box in the driver and elevate the gunner to be more like a proper turret mount. Boom, sci fi 2 person bone crushing humvee
This video is perfect, i 100% agree with everything
This is exactly why I'm switching to Chaos, I have a Dark Angels Primaris army I'm working on but for all my classic marines, I'm switching to heresy (or am I already there with DA)
Saturnine terminators should definitely be released!
Haven't they already replaced the land raider with that big hover tank?
this is a simpson moment
You called Inceptors Eliminators.
the primaris lynn rader crusader!
its full of femal space marines yelling death by snu snu
Im just going to be living in Heresy land and do whatever i like by *CARVING THESE GARYSTUE MARINES TO SHREDDED BITS*
you know, to kitbash.
yeah........kitbash.
Impulsor. Repulsor. And whatever the massively armed primaris tank is called. They replace the Rhino, Predator and Land Raider already. But...can they mess with a Land Raider Ares or Achilles?
i actually like the atv and the turret, they look cool
I know a way around this play classic marines as primaris. I'm doing a lot of kitbashing of bladeguard with sternguard kits
I think they should definitely consider adjusting the rules of certain first born pieces of kit to accommodate primaris. Things like the Storm Raven/Fang/Wolf gunships can transport Wulfen and terminators for 2 transport capacity a piece but can’t support a primaris? The Storm Raven can even transport centurions! A lot of marine players will be running blended armies, it would be nice to have stuff like updated land raiders, drop pods and storm gunships support both primaris and first born units.
I'd rather GW replace the gunships, SM aircraft looks awful.
I wosh they'd just leave all the tank alone. I get it, they need resizing. But the new Tanks are just meh. For me, you can't beat a Predator tank, a reasonable amount of firepower without going too over the top, but most importantly, Tracks. Tank Tracks are so much more awesome than whatever the new primaris tanks have.
The really shit part is The new tanks are even smaller in scale than the old ones, Well atleast the repulsor its doors are smaller than the Land raider doors and its slightly smaller in general, so much for scale
I think we already have the Primaris Land Raider - what about the Repulsor Executioner? Sorry for my English if I messed up with something.
Custodes may also be transported by landraiders but no intercessor??
The primaris repulsor is a primaris land raider.
but it can't carry 16 black templar crusaders!!!! the day it can do THAT is the day I make the switch!