Love anything JL Quality quality quality but the price points are ridiculous One of my favorite subs I’ve ever owned was a 13 1/2 inch W6 V2 in a Volkswagen Passat SQ GOD
A guy in indiana has a kart racing shop in a barn like patricks woofer shop.ya go in he has every kind of kart and engine ya can think of.hes a weird guy.thats another one of my hobbys,but dont do it as much as id like.
19:31 I rather like having "Christmas" All year long. There really are so many things to be thankful for. I notice that a lot of people complain about the way others treat them. Almost everything that I have got in my life? Almost all of it was simply due to the fact that I went out of my way to treat them right. When I was learning to be a Low Voltage cable installer? The things I learned from pro's and people that I would not even THINK about being one? Made me the installer I (Was) today. Its amazing how far you can get when you just open yourself up to learning and caring about taking the initiative to learn and go the extra mile FOR THE RIGHT PEOPLE. I really have no need to an Extra Income. But boy do I wish I could Marry a Lawyer. Or a Paralegal/ Accountant. . 🙂
@@RobotUnderground I could teach myself that I build pc, fix phones, tablets etc. I want my dads knowledge because he’s master mechanic too I grew up handing him wrenches build race engines so I’d like to learn all the machinist tricks for engine parts. I mean obviously I’ve leaned a lot from him about building engines etc and can fix damn near anything you put in front of me but you know how it is when you have someone who’s got experience, tricks knowledge of so many different fields you try to absorb as much knowledge as you can from them. I just got lucky it’s my old man. He’s also master electrician, water purveyor, well driller, pump installer, heavy equipment operator, truck driver,hunting guide,and more … I also did most of those as well.
For that part, yes but eventually the bottom of the coil where it attaches to the spider will bottom out on the top of the motor. Remember the chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. When you abuse that chain, you find the weak link very quick.
Ok sir, will two Deafbonce 12s with a 88 sens rating, sound more musical than my Eclipse sw7000's? Not that I'm displeased with my subs, but an sens of 80 makes me question bc I know that you don't know what you're missing til you have it!
I have the TREO SSP 12.22. They look amazing and have some custom machined heatsinks(?) on them. I was curious what you thought about TREO. I got it BNIB for 250$ from a failing shop liquidation. I think retail it was 599. Crazy I think!
You and i feal the same way about sound deadener, i knew a guy that had almost 400lbs of deadener in his trunk with an 8k and 2 12 in SD NSV 12s and a giant agm.. broke his trany is 2 months 4600 to fix it and his motor went 1 month after that. Was a lancer. He droped the audio game and got a GSX. People pay attention to the weight it matters.
So 400 lbs of deadner damaged his transmission and then his engine? Yeah ok! That's like driving your car with another 2 adults and a child. All cars are rated to carry a minimum of 5 adults (180lbs x5=900lbs) and about 400lbs of cargo. Atleast my 2008 Subaru Forester does. That's 1400lbs and your claiming a little deadner and 2 12" subwoofers are destroying his tranny and engine. Hahaha what a joke.
Your friend is full of shit. The payload capacity for that vehicle is well over 1000lbs. Imagine thinking a 4 door car/tranny can't handle 4 adults and groceries in the trunk. Yea ok bro.
Is having the cooling holes in the pole the patent? Seems like a good idea but I feel if the holes were drilled in an upward direction diagonally instead of perpendicularly it would cool a lot more awesomely
It doesn't matter in that shit storm. Most subs are side fire / horizontal mount anyway. In that high velocity environment, gravity and heat waves don't matter all that much. They don't matter at all when someone is abusing their subwoofer.
Depends on budget but I'd recommend the Vato Xtreme or just Vato. Text me direct with your name and shipping address and I'll add you to my phone. 6023126504
It doesn't. It's extended just for cooling. It does this by having it perforated as well as being extended and basically what it does is it adds a lot of surface area
@RobotUndergroun Sup brother. So basically a heat sink. What pole piece designs perform best under EXTREME conditions? More worried about sq and accuracy. I run flat rta tune to 1/12 octave flat then sg tuned be ear while maintaining a +1to-2db I like clean transients with maximum detail and realism. 10-40k. When a drummer bangs a snare or wacks his sticks together I want it to sound like it right there With a Soundstage and imaging to Match. I'm 2yrs into to tuning this thing. Still not done. Never will be! That's the black hole of hifi Audio I guess. Fuking Love it.
hey do you know if earthquake sound is a good brand. have you worked on any of their subs. i have a blown magma sub, i contacted earthquake for a recone but they stopped making kits for the dual 3 ohm. they said my version was from the late 90s to early 00s. i saw an ad saying these were ranked no. 1 in car audio electronics mag back in 99 so im a bit curious to see how they sound. is it worth it to look for a recone or look for something else
I found one in a car in a wrecking yard and ended up getting it for $10, I haven't tried it out yet but it doesn't smell burnt 🤷♂️ the thing is freaking gigantic and heavy as hell haha By the way, thanks for the reply and thank you for all of the knowledge your videos continue to provide man 🙏
I know what you're saying I build custom crossovers and everybody say your car sounds so much better than mine and they bought $1000 briefcases with the component set You can take a horse to water but you can't make them drink the water
No. Y30 is very stable but it does have what's called a Curie Point. I'll let you Google that. You can of course re-zap neo or y35 but most people don't have easy or cheap access to a magnetizer. I didn't finish my thought on this which is that Y35 has been in high demand now for the last 10 years that there's no price difference between Y30 and Y35. Most speaker companies don't even bother making or using lower grades unless specified by the designer. ( like in the case of IB woofers but you can easily lower the BL by just making the gap more sloppy like my mom instead of using lower grade ferrite.)
@@RobotUnderground the top plate shifted and I tried jb welding it back but over the night it shifted back a bit and I’m assuming it’s stuck like that forever now.
I can do it for $200 round trip. I think it's better just to buy a different motor. I can give you a $40 credit for that one and send you a return label when you buy the new one. Just text me direct with your name and shipping address. I'll add you to the phone and then we can review your options. 6023126504
Man your knowledge of the audio world is amazing to say the least
Aye thank you very much man I requested this video and I think that was less than 48hrs ago! You're awesome bro 🤘👏
Just ordered 2 of the Audio Legion Maximus 10s. Upgrading from the Gladiator, hopefully.
Hope your week is awesome, you deserve it!
Compare them to the NVX VCW as well. Basically the same sub.
I got them being pushed by that HCCA 3000.1DSPLX, now I can turn it up some.
It should get them moving a little bit 😜
Where did you find them?
Love anything JL Quality quality quality but the price points are ridiculous One of my favorite subs I’ve ever owned was a 13 1/2 inch W6 V2 in a Volkswagen Passat SQ GOD
When a guy starts a video in that subwoofer shop he knows what he’s talking about.
He’s good… very good🤙🏽
@@albertpung7250 he’s no Dan Wiggins
A guy in indiana has a kart racing shop in a barn like patricks woofer shop.ya go in he has every kind of kart and engine ya can think of.hes a weird guy.thats another one of my hobbys,but dont do it as much as id like.
19:31 I rather like having "Christmas" All year long. There really are so many things to be thankful for. I notice that a lot of people complain about the way others treat them.
Almost everything that I have got in my life? Almost all of it was simply due to the fact that I went out of my way to treat them right.
When I was learning to be a Low Voltage cable installer? The things I learned from pro's and people that I would not even THINK about being one? Made me the installer I (Was) today.
Its amazing how far you can get when you just open yourself up to learning and caring about taking the initiative to learn and go the extra mile FOR THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
I really have no need to an Extra Income. But boy do I wish I could Marry a Lawyer. Or a Paralegal/ Accountant. . 🙂
Mingle at a party and find out their interests.
My dads a master machinist wish we had all the tools so I could learn it.
Learn to program a CNC
@@RobotUnderground I could teach myself that I build pc, fix phones, tablets etc. I want my dads knowledge because he’s master mechanic too I grew up handing him wrenches build race engines so I’d like to learn all the machinist tricks for engine parts. I mean obviously I’ve leaned a lot from him about building engines etc and can fix damn near anything you put in front of me but you know how it is when you have someone who’s got experience, tricks knowledge of so many different fields you try to absorb as much knowledge as you can from them. I just got lucky it’s my old man. He’s also master electrician, water purveyor, well driller, pump installer, heavy equipment operator, truck driver,hunting guide,and more … I also did most of those as well.
@@Thumper68 Just keep feeding your brain with good stuffs.
@@RobotUnderground for sure latina porn lol
Wouldn't another benefit of using more slugs be that its almost impossible to bottom out the coil?
For that part, yes but eventually the bottom of the coil where it attaches to the spider will bottom out on the top of the motor. Remember the chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. When you abuse that chain, you find the weak link very quick.
My dad is a master Kung Fu Artist. He karate chops all the skateboards.
With or without grip tape?
Ok sir, will two Deafbonce 12s with a 88 sens rating, sound more musical than my Eclipse sw7000's? Not that I'm displeased with my subs, but an sens of 80 makes me question bc I know that you don't know what you're missing til you have it!
Grab em deafbonce/avatar makes awesome subs
I have the TREO SSP 12.22. They look amazing and have some custom machined heatsinks(?) on them. I was curious what you thought about TREO. I got it BNIB for 250$ from a failing shop liquidation. I think retail it was 599. Crazy I think!
Great work but not any different than DC or Fi... All of which I think are overpriced which is why I build.
You and i feal the same way about sound deadener, i knew a guy that had almost 400lbs of deadener in his trunk with an 8k and 2 12 in SD NSV 12s and a giant agm.. broke his trany is 2 months 4600 to fix it and his motor went 1 month after that. Was a lancer. He droped the audio game and got a GSX. People pay attention to the weight it matters.
I think it has a purpose for the rattles. And takes away road noise.
Keeps my boom inside too.
Back in the day customers would bitch if car didn't rattle enough ....after bass install..no matter the in car sound...
So 400 lbs of deadner damaged his transmission and then his engine? Yeah ok! That's like driving your car with another 2 adults and a child. All cars are rated to carry a minimum of 5 adults (180lbs x5=900lbs) and about 400lbs of cargo. Atleast my 2008 Subaru Forester does. That's 1400lbs and your claiming a little deadner and 2 12" subwoofers are destroying his tranny and engine. Hahaha what a joke.
Your friend is full of shit. The payload capacity for that vehicle is well over 1000lbs. Imagine thinking a 4 door car/tranny can't handle 4 adults and groceries in the trunk. Yea ok bro.
@@ricardomolina4605 You don't gotta rip the guy's dick off and beat him with it you know what I mean he is wrong but shit man 😂
Is having the cooling holes in the pole the patent? Seems like a good idea but I feel if the holes were drilled in an upward direction diagonally instead of perpendicularly it would cool a lot more awesomely
It doesn't matter in that shit storm. Most subs are side fire / horizontal mount anyway. In that high velocity environment, gravity and heat waves don't matter all that much. They don't matter at all when someone is abusing their subwoofer.
Question, before you get your store up.... Best 12/15" sub on a alpine A60m, 600rms+, for SQL...?
Depends on budget but I'd recommend the Vato Xtreme or just Vato. Text me direct with your name and shipping address and I'll add you to my phone. 6023126504
Hi again whats your opinion on Earthquake Subwoofers (Magma, DBXI, Subzero) and amps? Are they good?
A bit on the expensive side. Other than that, all subs are the same.
How does that extended pole piece shape magnetic Flux in the gap? Is it even on both sides of the gap?
It doesn't. It's extended just for cooling. It does this by having it perforated as well as being extended and basically what it does is it adds a lot of surface area
@RobotUndergroun Sup brother. So basically a heat sink. What pole piece designs perform best under EXTREME conditions? More worried about sq and accuracy. I run flat rta tune to 1/12 octave flat then sg tuned be ear while maintaining a +1to-2db I like clean transients with maximum detail and realism. 10-40k. When a drummer bangs a snare or wacks his sticks together I want it to sound like it right there With a Soundstage and imaging to
Match. I'm 2yrs into to tuning this thing. Still not done. Never will be! That's the black hole of hifi Audio I guess. Fuking Love it.
hey do you know if earthquake sound is a good brand. have you worked on any of their subs. i have a blown magma sub, i contacted earthquake for a recone but they stopped making kits for the dual 3 ohm. they said my version was from the late 90s to early 00s. i saw an ad saying these were ranked no. 1 in car audio electronics mag back in 99 so im a bit curious to see how they sound. is it worth it to look for a recone or look for something else
Bruv Earthquake is solid from what I know. I know this is mobile discussion but fyi some of there home audio is $20K+ I believe
All subs are the same. You don't need that exact coil to get the job done. Measure the gap dims and then look for the parts online.
I love treo subs I own 2 15s and 2 of there ssi 12s
Sign me up for anything you do with the w7 motors. Would love that!
Text direct with your name and shipping address when you're ready. 602-312-6504
@Robotunderground whats your opinion on Xtant amps?
Expensive, too many features, fragile. Look great, esoteric though and high maint.
I found one in a car in a wrecking yard and ended up getting it for $10, I haven't tried it out yet but it doesn't smell burnt 🤷♂️ the thing is freaking gigantic and heavy as hell haha
By the way, thanks for the reply and thank you for all of the knowledge your videos continue to provide man 🙏
@@coltonwilliamson2647 I'm glad I could help.
That's why dc comic changed their logo they tried to sue DC shoe but they had a trademark already
I know what you're saying I build custom crossovers and everybody say your car sounds so much better than mine and they bought $1000 briefcases with the component set You can take a horse to water but you can't make them drink the water
That gap looks so tight
Definitely not your mom
So when the y35 magnet gets hot it drops to a y30? So when the y30 gets hot does it drop to a y25?
No. Y30 is very stable but it does have what's called a Curie Point. I'll let you Google that. You can of course re-zap neo or y35 but most people don't have easy or cheap access to a magnetizer. I didn't finish my thought on this which is that Y35 has been in high demand now for the last 10 years that there's no price difference between Y30 and Y35. Most speaker companies don't even bother making or using lower grades unless specified by the designer. ( like in the case of IB woofers but you can easily lower the BL by just making the gap more sloppy like my mom instead of using lower grade ferrite.)
is that apparat playing in the first clip???????????
Maybe. Hehe
He's got some good bass lines
Do you have any 12w7 motors to sell?
No but I have better motors
@@RobotUnderground the top plate shifted and I tried jb welding it back but over the night it shifted back a bit and I’m assuming it’s stuck like that forever now.
@@RobotUnderground what are your prices for the better motors?
I can do it for $200 round trip. I think it's better just to buy a different motor. I can give you a $40 credit for that one and send you a return label when you buy the new one. Just text me direct with your name and shipping address. I'll add you to the phone and then we can review your options. 6023126504
I just did a 13W7 in 2 days.
👍👀👍
He wouldn’t buy the advil?!!! WTF!
He told the writers to get their own Advil.
i dont abuse my subs EVER
Good!
in fact I haven't heard distortion since 1993@@RobotUnderground
Nash
JLAudio is such a rip off, kinda always has been in my view