JL Audio 13W7 vs Memphis Car Audio VIV1422
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- JL Audio 13W7 with a HD1200/1 vs Memphis Car Audio VIV1422 with a VIV2200.1 in this sound off we swap bass systems in a Dodge Charger and compare them against each other using a DB meter to measure how loud each system is. We use a 40hz 50hz and 60hz signal then move into music. The JL Audion system retails for $2700 and the Memphis is $1950. See which is louder!!!.....
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A few things not mentioned in this video included:
JL Audio box tuned at 34.6Hz
Memphis Car Audio box tuned at 32Hz
JL HD1200/1 had a 4 AWG 100 amp fuse
MEMPHIS VIV2200.1 has a 0 Awg 200 amp fuse
Running off the stock alternator and a yellow top optima as the secondary battery - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
For people that care about quality already know the W7s and W6s are king but it's nice to see memphis subs performing well.
The exact content I needed to see!
The jl audio sub outperformed using less power. The Memphis sub used nearly double the amount of power and came up short. So in terms of what I seen was a subwoofer that was loud using a amplifier that's efficient enough to not tax an electrical system. You get what you pay for
This could easily be due to box rise and the jl amp having a regulated power supply.
Box design and install will matter vastly more that the base equipment.
The enclosure makes the largest difference. That's just hands down fact. Both subs are going to want entirely different enclosures to before optimally.
The JL is $300 more..and a difference of $800 of what he showed us here, so, 2db differences at most is definitely getting what you pay for...lol. I wouldn't spend that much extra for a half db gain ✌️ dude you're smokin' crack
@@MemphisMojo15s if your after DB you are buying the wrong woofers all together these are for actual music to sound good and have an authoritative bottom end not doing big numbers! What you are wanting is DC audio, DD, Incriminator, sundown somebody who builds high power subs and amps! It would be like buying a big burp sub to put into a sound quality system ain’t gonna work to good!
@@tammyforbes2101 apparently you know your stuff. I like that.
@@tammyforbes2101 I did 145.6db at 40hz with the Memphis VIV while still sounding amazing, the problem with this video is that its done horribly wrong and without the proper information. the meter isn't a real actual meter , no clamp meter to see what power each is actually doing , totally different boxes ... this looks like it was made by someone not actually in car audio and was paid promotion.
That jl has so much more to give. Box isnt near big enough. Just had jl help me design a box for a long time customer at the shop I work for and its 2 13w7 4th order bandpass and it was almost 12 cube after everything was done. It's a monster on 4.5k watts.
I cant find many comparisons between JL & Memphis. I am trying to decide between a Memphis VIV900.5 and an HD900/5. Can i ask your thoughts or can u do a comparison plz. TIA
What are the boxes tuned at? Fs? So much more info is needed
We need a top 5 of the best subs & mono amps in the game right now! Great comparison
Ds18 hands down
@@snowman251 in a daily driver set up? Or is that more of a competition set up?
W7 still one of the best for SQL
Best at what? There are several categories, and different subs perform better in them.
@@JayRSwan for a daily driver. Need that two blocks away chest pounding slap
Dj magic Mike is what got me into car audio
Which brand has cleaner and softer thumping bass? JL Audio, CT Sounds or DD Audio? I hope someone will reply because i want to buy one of those before christmas'
would it be better to push this W7 sub with the HD 1200/1 amp in the vid or the VXi 1000/1 amp from JL? Trying to decide, thanks!
Hd1200 or jl 1000 would work fine
ok we know which one is louder,but which sounds better.i bet the jl they are known for sq.id like to have seen a bit different a test.20 30 and 40hz vs 40 50 and 60 dome here.
Question:
The JL Audio Sub was in a ported enclosure.
The Memphis sub seemed to be placed in a sealed enclosure (unless the ports are located on the back).
A ported enclosure will have an SPL advantage (given the fact that they have similar power handling abilities). Wouldn’t that possibly make the results of this comparison invalid?
Yeah the port is on the side … good observations thou!
@@BreakersStereo why did you delete all the other observations? you might as well stick with deleting comments at this point . the meter isn't a real meter. the boxes are different, no real clamped power .
fixed reviews lol
@@mazda2284
They are both get subs and amp but and great video by the way I just think the comparison it’s exactly evenly matched sub to amp and box is basically what I’m getting to
It’s not evenly matched sub to amp to box
Dope video! I wish there was one for every sub and amp! Great job!
I have 2 sixfive amps. 2200.1
And 5chan with the mojo 15..I.
All for 2door tahoe.
I want custom box.
4 Focal 6.5s but may add 6x9s in the side rear area.
I'm looking for recommendations on what else do I need.
Damn!!! Maybe a DSP to tune it all in
What ohms was the Memphis at? 1 ohm or 2 ohm?
Right now I’m between buying a JL W7 10, or 2 MOJO 8s for my Honda hatchback. What is your guys opinion. I’m looking for clean sound but I also want it to slam.
Oh…… tough decision.. those 8” are impressive but the 10W7 has been solid for like 20 years without a redesign. Let’s hear what everyone has to say about this⁉️
Why didn't you compare using a bass knob?
What about a T1 power rockford fosgate 12inch T1 vs Jl⚖️⚖️⚖️ who Wins????
I would like to see this test using the same amp for both subs in this test.
Didn’t think about that…. That would have been good
Jl is the best in my opinion. Sounds great with less power. I also like Rockford 👍 👌
I don't really get it for a sq standpoint wouldn't you use an acoustic measuring device and see if the subwoofer isn't peaky and a doesn't roll off and a flat response curve? Why not use something like a OmniMic to test subwoofers instead of a db meter?
You would test with a real spl meter and test across the frequency range to show that response. Omni mic is a spl meter but intended for low spl , well below what these subs should actually meter . These should be in the 140-150db range easily. The thing he used isn't a legitimate meter for anything.
New Subscriber. Great job brother. How about Morel Ultimo SC12/2 ? I'm considering a 6- 8th order box ?, in 14 cruze. 800watts 2ohm amp. Looking for the lows. 20-30hz. Up for suggestions? Ever test Morel speaker? Thanks
Thanks we appreciate it! It’s been a while since we’ve build 6-8th order boxes. The market has really changed over the course of 10 years or so. We where morel dealers for many years but dropped them because our clientele didn’t support the line. So unfortunately it’s been a while since we’ve put our hands on some morel gear. Plus we only really sold the components and co-ax not the subs so I don’t have a reference man. Sorry ...
My viv 1422 underpowered does 140.6 in a custom enclosure. For all wondering about sq it is very good! Plays everything perfectly and very smoothly been bumping mine for a year trying to see if it would let go as well. Not one issue stays very cool. Mind you im using a custom 2000.1 that does 2500+ at 1ohm but after rise she is under powered
JL got their game tight. They always been on top. JL audio is the only brand to make audiophile subs for homes, $4k a piece come on man!! 🤯😂
4k? their 13w7 is 25k for home. 4k is an entry-level home sub.
Nice vid homie
Great vid
And the JL Audio W713 is under powered by about 200 watts in this video I would assume, but the Memphis Audio VIV1422 has a amp that is putting out at the top of the RMS of the subwoofer at 2,200 watts rms. The JL could go a little more on power but the Memphis Audio 14 is more so at its RMS limit.
If one sub had port holes and the other didnt wouldnt that make a big difference in DBs?
I've got the same sub/box combo, but I am running the memphis mojo pro 3000.1 amp. I've heard the jl w7, and with the combo I have, it would match up with that.
I like this video. Finally some impartial data!
Thanks we appreciate it!
He showed us the HD 1200 but used the RD version instead. I’m disappointed in this.
@@alphaone3218 he gained the HD amp. You’ll notice as he turned the gain on the HD amp, the clipping light went on on the SMD. Plus that RD amp isn’t capable of those numbers.
40-20 Hz is where I have heard the most difference, and where the W7 shines. It sounds good at higher Hz, and smashes the lows. Kinda disappointed this test didn't cover 40-10 Hz.
whats the point to test it at 10hz?
@@BASSstarlet so we can see how it performs at 10hz
@@JesseJames83 what song makes 10hz
@@leviellis9034 Be Happy 10 Hz Binaural Beats Serotonin
You should have ran the Memphis on the jl amp to see the numbers. That jl amp is a masterpiece in quality. Far superior to that Memphis amp 10 fold
Not to mention the 1000/2 class ab. Less efficient, but the dynamic mosfet power supply was new, for the time. A regulated power supply. This when Rockford and other companies were taking advantage of igbt power amplification that while somewhat efficient, held high distortion. People were blinded by the simplified power boost, but had little knowledge of the harmonic distortion.
Then, jl came.
Ever checked out the memphis MOJO series?
Yeah not an accurate comparison imo
Breaking in the woofers make a difference. Box rise, magnet, port length and depth but it was a good sound off.
My 13w7s from a few years ago sounded really good. But they definitely needed to be broken in. They didn’t sound good at high volume low frequency (below 30hz)
Ce n'est qu'un test de puissance ... Qu'en est il de la performance de la qualité du son ?
Whats the best subwoofer you think you had the best experience with?
Depends on the application. But we love the Memphis M7 12”
Wish you would have tested on same amplifier
Do a test with the JL powered with 1500w.
Great video
Memphis audio mojo 12 1500rms watts or jl audio w7 1000rms watts ??????
Entertaining videos. Thank you. Would love to see some marine comparisons. Wetsounds, fosgate, JL audio... most marine applications are infinite baffle setups, so would be cool to see how they stack up.
Great Video. I would like to hear you opinion on the sound quality of the 2. I know that is so subjective but can be somewhat data driven. The one item in all of this is the power. The JL Audio was louder with almost half the power. Yes it is more expensive but you will have to double the amount of power the car produces to drive the Memphis system which will increase the price. I would like to see 30 and 70 added to this test in the future. The other item I noticed is how consistent the SPL numbers were across the board on the JL compared to the Memphis which could show better sound quality as you don't have to tune the system as much. Maybe showing an average of the SPL readings between to the 2 to see what the average shows. Again very cool test.
For all those who didn't see the JL amp it is in the same spot as the Memphis. The camera shot doesn't show it that well but you can make out the amp and notice it is the HD1200.
Where did you see what each sub was seeing for wattage? Cuz I've watched this video multiple times and never once seen a clamp
I've had a jl13 w7 and that thing is amazing , it gives a deep and clean bass. I had it on a bmwx5 and I promise you on some songs I couldn't even turn it up all the way cause it rattled too much hahah
The Memphis subwoofer looks a lot like the Peerless STW-350F. I wonder if Peerless is making the subwoofer for Memphis?
I was thinking the same thing and from the specs and design it is but he didn’t show any close ups of the sub talk about the design or coil you would of think he would of brought that up they must have done something wrong with it smelling like it was going to blow not even clipping on 2200 watts when it should be able to handle another 1300 watts and the whole design allows for much better cooling of the voice coil and more emphasis on motor force and control...
Memphis has been around forever. Who is peerless?
Looks like a lot of people missed the whole point of this video🥴🤷♂️. Great video man!!
Thank you!!!
Should've did a 3 way competition and threw in the RF T2 13 inch
Yo Josh, can you do a review on under seat subs?
Yo! Ok we’re working on a shallow sub video. But yeah under the seat subs would be good. Thanks for the suggestion
Why is the DB level so low????? My Sundown SA V3 8"s and those are my smallest Subs I use in my car when I need space do 146 on music... What was your volume at?? That memphis should be doing way way way way more then 117 db.... It's a 14" Sub it should have eaisly done 140 no issues... Something isn't right about this
On your opinion does the 13w7 sound better on a non ported box then ported one ?
That is a loaded question, as that entirely depends on the box. A properly built and tuned ported box will give you the same bass response as a sealed box and be louder. The sealed box is much easier to make to sound good.
I know I have already commented, but I wanted to point out a few other things. 1. Both drivers should have been given the same amplifier to power them. 2. The Memphis has a slight advantage, since it came in a factory prebuilt enclosure. (factory enclosures most often have had some research & development) The JL13 seemed to have been loaded in a basic "JL Spec" enclosure. 3. The subs' in-car frequency response should have been measured with a calibrated mic while playing PINK NOISE. - this would somewhat reveal the test vehicle's cabin gain, and these drivers will perform much differently in different sized vehicles. I know this video was a couple years ago, but JL has raised the price of the 13W7 to currently $1,799.99. (which is ridiculous) The Memphis is showing a price of $999.95. Even when the JL was $1,449.99 - it wasn't at the same price point as the Memphis, but I get it. It's cool to see a comparison between two flagship drivers. I love my ported 13w7, but I am getting ready to design a custom sealed enclosure and see what it will do!
It's crazy. I got my w7s several years ago and the price has basically doubled since I got it. But the amplifiers are about the same price I paid back then. Why did the sub price jump so much?
@@Jay-pr2kt Two things: inflation and GREED. With just inflation adjusted from 2002, the 13W7 should be sitting at $1,549.99. Unfortunately, people are starting to realize what the W7's are all about and people are willing to pay the extortion fee.
How can I talk to you about it system for my truck over the phone?
Call us 805-486-8307
4:04 what is the song called?
And badass subs
Man.... you went all the way back by playing DJ Magic Mike: Feel the Bass🔊🎵🎶👍🏾👍🏾
So did the VIV take the place of MOJO
Thats wassup i respect this face off. You can save a few bucks with memphis & not really notice the difference in sound. However the memphis system is drawing way more power, JL system is far more efficient, so long term much better performance & efficiency. :
Salute
If you dont have the money memphis i had the mojo x 2 of them in a custom box tuned to 32 on jl 1000/ in a honda accord it was crazy stinger battery
Yall don't have a SSA mini meter?
At the time that’s all we had. But since this video people called me out for using it. So we bite the bullet bought a $1000 TermPro SPL meter, the same ones they use in DB Drag competitions. So now we use that in our videos.
It’s bit right there when it takes 2x the power to duplicate.. you’ll be spending 3x more in money to power that with electrical upgrades as you start multiplying everything out
Which sub was more tight and punchy soundrd better?
I would say the Memphis.
jl all the way they design it to strict standards in florida for sound guality
@@salvatoresidoti3018 idk man my jl w6 v3 12 was not punchy in any of my ported boxes. I like subs with progressive spiders. Subs like jl in ported would be good for jazz music or something in rap it doesent have that punch no matter how hard i tried with alot of boxes with my cabin gain too much low end constant bass that drowns things out. Idmax is better for my taste when i model it
would love to see how the earthquake holee 15 inch does up against other leading brands in spl and not least the super low hz bass..i will always remember when the earthquake magma with slaps came out and it broke just about all competition it met until cadence beast master dragrace 15 inch came out in 2002 or somewhere around those years.
those are extremely hard to find nowdays . judging from how this video was done id say they don't have a clue what ur talking about, heck they didn't use a actual spl meter or proper methods for testing even . 20 + years ago when those subs were made they were at the top of the charts , the w7 came out somewhere around the same time and is still here today
I have a first generation 12 Magma ( dual 3 ohm ) bought in 1999, it's 2024. Earthquake still makes the Holee s, the sub zero, and the Magma. And Still made in the USA
You need to play that Jeezy "Poppin"
Hold up so you have the JL in a better box? How is this a fair test AT ALL. Every good technician knows ENCLOSURE IS EVERYTHING.
Also what kind of meter is that? Is it even made to take SPL DB readings? It looks like a worksite meter for construction...
Also the JL has a lower FS so of course its going to like the lows a little more (testing isnt accurate so thats not very important anyways)
I wanna see a Crossfire c5 against the Memphis mojo pro
can you compre 1 13w7 to 2 12w6 please?......i want to know which is a better hoice with jl 1200/1 v3 amp thanks!
Two w6 12s if you have the room. Two 12s will have a lot more cone area than a single 13.5” sub so it’ll be louder. Also they both are good for sound quality.
@@jamal2490able i have the 2 12s already they are good but i just bought the 13w7 in a single ported box......i need that deeper low bass i hope its better than the 2 12s
@@rizzayification all you needed is a custom box tuned to 30-32 . It’s all in the box I promise
Or save $$ and buy sundown audio subs and be louder than both of your choices
W7 by far or do 2 w6
I maybe missed it, but the JL amp you tuned is the RD series, not the HD series. I do not think the RD series plays it's full potential at 1.5ohms. I know the RD is rated for 2ohms minimum so the test may be flawed from the start. Great video anyways. Thank you for posting it.
The RD was sitting in front of the HD but his hand was tuning on the HD.
I have the RD1500 and it’s the only amp in the rd series to be 1 ohm stable. The 1000w and lower are 2 ohm stable
@@brent7900 i just watched a vid with the RD1000 on a dyno and it did a certified run of like 1800w@1.33Ohm. impressive
@@Cheeseypoofs85
What vid is that?
Williston Audio Labs
I run 4x15 JL W0s off a single HD 1200/1 and have never heard anybody talk smack about My system.
That’s a good combo lots of cone area with an amp that matches in power. Very efficient set up. I had (6)12” W1 off (2) 500/1 back in the day and it was super loud.
Nice! I run 4 12" WOs in a huge 4th order with a kicker 1200.1t(1ohm). My sundown and DS-18 buddies who are running multiple amps, 15" subs , extra batteries, all out on upgrades and my van is killing them. Bass is deep and clean. Sundown Dealer is telling me GTFO as his clientele is giving him the old "I want a refund"!
Memphis makes great woofers but they aren't on par with the W7. The JL has a flatter response, where the Memphis drops sharply as you get into higher frequencies. A 10db increase is what the human ear perceives as twice as loud and the JL is almost at 7, so that's going to be pretty noticeable. At 80hz I'd imagine it would tip even further in JL's favor. Efficiency is another thing to consider, a 13W7 is using half the power to produce the same volume, that's a big difference and plays a big part in system design if you now have to have hardware capable of delivering that extra 1k watts...
JL really has bass down, there's not many other woofer's out there that can compete with the sound quality of a JL woofer. A W3 or W6 are even difficult to compete with. They may not be the loudest and they are pretty pricy, but if you want clean, deep, and accurate bass they are the way to go.
1. You get what you pay for. 2. If you want it loud, clean, efficient, and in a relatively compact enclosure, then the W7 is hard to beat. I am stating this for the average Joe that only wants one or two subs in a daily driven vehicle. I am not talking about people who wall off a vehicle for the sole purpose of floating a farmer's coveralls. Someone who has a wide variety of musical preferences. JL has done their homework on the W7. I admit, I have heard the Memphis in person at a local shop and it sounds great in the showroom at low to moderate volume, but I can not speak for it when it comes to in-vehicle and at the limit listening. Bottom line: there is no perfect subwoofer OR enclosure. It all depends on your budget, listening preference, and how much room you can sacrifice for the installation. Remember, bass is a lot like drag racing. The more you want, (the faster you want to go) the more exponential the amount of money you will be paying. I have been doing car audio for 30 years and I speak from experience. I replaced two CHEAP Pioneer 15" subwoofers that were sealed in a 4 cu. ft. enclosure, with a single 12w7 in a 1.75 cu. ft. enclosure. Both setups were getting 1000 watts RMS, yet the 12w7 had half the enclosure size. I had both setups metered (back in 2002) and the 12w7 was 2.5 dB louder. The 15's sounded really awesome for what they were, but the JL W7 was better. The difference between them was on either end of the dB scale, at VERY low levels and at very extreme levels. None of my W7s ever suffered a failure. Honestly, I think most subwoofers have the potential to satisfy, as long as you don't cheap out too hard. I would always rather have some cheap subs in the right box than some high dollar subs in the wrong box. Great video though! I do hope to see some Term Lab results, and I think what Memphis has come up with, as far as cone area VS. excursion was quite clever! Sneaky sonsabitches, LoL!
Thanks for your comment the purpose of this video was show 1. JL Audio makes a great woofer in their W7 and is good for the guy that wants a lot of bass in his trunk not necessarily for the guy that competes or walls is car. 2. That Memphis makes a set up that is much less and sounds very similar to the JL set up. True the test equipment used was inexpensive but with all other things being equal it served its purpose. And yeah as soon as I get the Term pro stuff in and learn how to use it we will test again!! Thanks again for your comment and I hope others read it to see your perspective.
And the mojo pulls more power. having it In the back of your Nissan means nothing just cause you set the gain doesn't stop the 12v system from clipping your woofer
12v 😂😂😂😂😂 you know nothing of a cars electrical system.
@@pstain1 That's what everyone calls in the car audio space even if you run aftermarket batteries/alternators. So clearly YOU have no idea. In fact, you're exactly the guy we don't like in the community so please go find another hobby.
@@krowwithakay 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@krowwithakay I mean look at this video and tell me with a straight face that this video Belongs in the car audio community at all . its a slap in the face to all the legitimate testers in the community
JL audio is definitely expensive but regardless of the music it sounds good!
I just like the fact that DJ Magic Mike was played!!!
Yeah! Old heads rule!
@@BreakersStereo Absolutely
Should’ve kept them both on same amp.
One box is sealed and the other ported with no specs, so not sure what the point of comparing these two subs was🧐
Very cool. I have the 12w7 in a smaller box, with a Rockford Fosgate R2-1200X1 amp.. trying to get a jlaudio amp. I need to tweak it I think. Maybe the Rockford can still make it sound good.
Thanks for the comment!!
The problem is that JL woofer is a 3 ohm speaker so it’s hard to find an amp that will work other than the JL Audio.
LET ME EXPLAIN:
The JL amps output the same power between 1.5-4 ohm. Whereas your Rockford amp is rated at:
400 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms
800 watts RMS x 1 at 2 ohms
1,200 watts RMS x 1 at 1 ohm
So at 3 ohm(the impedance of your W7) that amp only outputs about 600 watts. Now the W7 is rated between 400-1000 but you want to be at 1000 or close to it. JL was sneaky when they designed this woofer because no amp is optimized to be loaded to 3 ohms. Normally 1 ohm or 2 ohm.
And since the JL Amps put out the same power between 1.5-4 ohms their older Slash Series or HD are the best amps to run that woofer. The HD750/1 ($999)will work but the HD1200/1. $1499!
But if you don’t want spend so much here’s an alternative:
1600.1 EVOX2 - 2Ω Here are the ratings
Power @ 4Ω: 1 X 1056 WRMS
Power @ 2Ω: 1 X 1600 WRMS
So at 3 ohms that should put you right in the middle 1300 or so. Which is plenty of power! Now those amps are a little over rated in my option so you should be just fine. And only $550
Ive been running my 13.5 on an rockford 1000 for like 8 yrs now. It works pretty good.
The Memphis looks like a modified Peerless STW… odd that it’s more expensive and specs lower. Seems like they scaled it down 1”, did a double roll surround, perhaps a few other things but lost 1000wrms of power handling. An odd choice but a great driver.
Nothing was changed. It more than likely is the same sub. A lot of these subs come from the same build house with the same soft parts. They are tested to the limit. A company buys it, then brands it and sets the wattage rating in between.
@@smackledorfmcsween it's 1" smaller so I'm sure they changed something though.
Pft... King of what?? DD9500? Rockford t2?? B2 audio? Sundown zv6?? Should i keep on??
I now own a jl 13w7 and x 2 hd 1200.1 jl amps and a prefab box from rockford with 2 12 p3s and for the money is still a banging and nice looking box and I know for a fact it can take a belting after 5 years of pounding the shit out of it. And tbh I still rather belt that for loud bass than the 13w7 because I'm actually scared to blow it up due to cost 😂
I think I will keep the jl for a sq build with my inner child has grown up 😝
Is the JL in a slot port box and the Memphis in a sealed box? If so that is def. not an apples to apples comparison.
The Memphis box was a ported box too. Look it up. JL FTW.
@@rudycorraudio9089 1:54 looks sealed to me 1:57 looks ported to me
@@JMT34237 In the picture it looks sealed, but look up " VIVI 1422 Loaded " and it clearly says in the specs that it's a side ported box. It's made by Memphis themselves.
@@rudycorraudio9089 cant find it. I googled it.
@@JMT34237 just search it on TH-cam. Its definitely a ported box .I think it's the Inphase car audio channel that has a video showing the ported side of the box.
Coming through my JBL speaker 🔊 sounds like that Memphis was 🪘 beating the hardest!
You're not using they JL amp you said you would but I'm ok with it because you used it on both subs
it was in there.. they also have an RD for front stage
I noticed you tested Memphis audio in their box bit did not give JL the same courtesy the box was tunes for JL especially same goes for Memphis. Just a thought for future testing and yes I understand you can make a box and tune it to what ever but when each company invests the time and money in custom boxes it's for a reason.
The JL box was built to the recommended spec listed in the Manuel and JLs site.
@Breakers Stereo & Performance how ever you did test the Memphis in the box that was made for it just saying apples to apples comparison. I owned a w7 and noticed with there box the sq and spl was better then a spec size it's how ever they designed it is all I'm getting at. If ya get board throw one in there box and test from the current configuration to the box made for it see what happens. I know I was surprised.
Just saw the HD amp in the background. My bad.
Adire Subwoofers for the win - Better pricing than JL W6 and W7 and just as good SQ
Considering the numbers, and the fact that the difference is either inaudible or almost inaudible, I could do a lot with the extra money I’m saving on the Memphis
Video hasn't finished but I saw a comment making thinking that the jl might have lost on dB, let's be honest the jl is an sq sub not spl even though it's probably the best sounding spl money can buy and is the sub used in their 20k$ home theatre subs too I forget their names they do dual woofer version think that's the 20k dollar model but they also do ported and sealed i think, I haven't seen the jl box yet but feels like it's sealed for the dB metre number
Edit listening to results maybe not audible in volume but type of bass would have to be different. I am biased though guys won't lie I'm a fan boy hard and I own the hd 1200 and hd 600 4 channel beautiful amps and so tiny and well made! Although even I admit it didn't have the resolution of a massive old class 150w rms x4 class ab clarion amp (which I think was something else rebranded tbh can't find info anywhere) the highs just sound better on it to my memory sorry jl still love you lol.
i think i will keep my zapco c2k 9.0xd amp and my 2 12 idmax v3
It's simple to compare what's hot and what's not by secondary market values, just filter eBay sold auctions.
And which have better sound quality? I think jl audio ? Cuz that’s real means😐
So I have no idea what you are doing there, but I hit 151db with my Memphis 14 with the 2200 running it. My components alone will hit higher than what you did.
Long ago I had the Mojo 15 with a 1000 watt class D in Green Bay I had second place I had a stingray battery that wasn't fully charged so I had to go again after burping over on the DB drag race car shut off. I will build again I'll probably go with Memphis again
yea your door speakers probably would outperform the scores posted in this video lol .
You must have a battery/ capacitator, no way that alternator is taking it 😂 unless you got an after market alternator, on that note, an OG in the audio game told me "ditch the batteries, get a high output alternator!" Less weight, more gas same power, tunning comes in handy, the frequency on my 10" is so low audio shops don't believe it the sound I'm putting out, might make a video, Every track sounds like it came from the studio but with BASS!!! I love it 😍
we need w7 jl vs sundown c series 12
Sundown is just SPL monster. But they sound like crap as far as SQ.
Your comparing jl s best of best and memphis best is the mojo i wana see that speaker vs w7
I got that Memphis amp it’s power hungry
Key to this is price
Those enclosures made a big difference
U should have tried each sub on each amp
Nice, jl for the win
Test a sundown zv5 against the W7 please
We are eager to do that test! We are in the middle of working a deal with Sundown to become an authorize dealer and if they deal works out we will definitely be doing that!
Sundown will win hands down
Why? The JL is a SQ sub
Sundown hands down
The jl 13 goes for 1700$ know crazy
My question is, did you use same box for each sub? Were these box's ported or sealed ? I don't think this was a fair race...
In a proper box both subs will play very well and dig deep. You played hip-hop / rap songs... How about playing something quality and see which one will give you better dynamics over loud and spl numbers..
Your testing was bassed on big boom.
I have seen 10" and 12" drivers do better numbers, at the same time they were very dynamic and musical. I was never a big fan of JL, these subs always sound very boomy too me.
And since you are in to car audio, get a better spl db meeter!
Thanks for the response. The boxes are both ported and in the proper enclosures. The JL box was built to JL’s recommend specs and the Memphis woofer was in its (Memphis) box. These are SPL woofers and made to be played loud, so we felt it appropriate to play songs in the 40hz range that most of our customers play them at. Keep in mind this is as quick SPL comparison and not an SQ comparison.
Jl subs sound boomy..... wut. W7 have some of the most linear bandwidth, no peaks just smooth.
@@BreakersStereo the w7 isn't an spl woofer
@@AndrewB23 I have no problem getting solid SPL off of 13w7s they just also have good sq
@@AndrewB23 Whoever said JL subs sound boomy couldn't afford to have a PROPER enclosure built for them, and/or their amplifier set properly after buying a W7. I have had five 12w7's, two 10w7's, and a 13w7. They all sounded the same to me, just different SPL. I now have a 12w6 in the stock H.O. box on a "peanut" XD 600/1 and it is bonkers! (not to mention light weight)