Is it just me or Michael could've gone through that last corner faster but he added another dab of brakes instead? Cool act from such a HERO! The phrase "don't meet your hero" doesn't apply for him
It's just a bit of fun and great to watch so stop arguing. Pastrana beat Vettel this year, they're all pros having a blast with no practice in cars they've never driven with fans in the passenger seats.
non, je ne pense pas, il va aussi vite a 0:39 qu'a 1:13 et ont voit bien que vettel creuse l'écart a chaque passages mais bon... shumacher a 7 titres et plus de 90 victoires donc...
Not sure about that. Once heard a story of him sneaking into the pitlane while under park ferme and removing the restricter from his go kart. And this was at a charity event!
Why do we have these arguments on who's a good driver and who's not. To get into F1 in the first place suggests they're a brilliant driver. We will never all agree who was or is the best driver.
+Adrian De Souza Freitas PLZ stop kidding yoruself. SEnna is highly overrated. Schumi was a beast and he humiliated Senna as a rookie also having less hp
why is everyone talking about senna he's a great driver but there are lots of great drivers it's not only about the driver team has to be good as well some drivers don't get to shine cause of that reason Schumacher will always be one of the greats
I pointed out when you were speculating about other drivers possibly being faster, it's speculation and nothing more, because we don't know - the only other argument I've dealt with is the HRT one, and we can both agree now that it can't be used as a valid criticism. "Schumacher isn't like Vettel at all Schumacher said that himself." The first 3 years of their careers were almost identical, like I said, look at the "comparisons with Michael Schumacher" on Vettel's wiki page, you'll be stunned.
Schumi is my favourite drive of all time, but I'm very aware of how Vettel is pretty much Michael, I mean, go on Vettel's wikipedia page and read the section called "Comparisons with Michael Schumacher", you will be very surprised. "you don't have any proof that Vettel is the best" Not once have I ever claimed that he was, again, I was just pointing out invalid arguments and where you were speculating.
That isn't what he said. He criticized him for not being able to win in a HRT - I pointed out that it isn't a valid criticism to say that, yet he still tried to argue that it was. It's possible that another driver could be faster than Vettel - I never denied this.
No we might never know, I was simply pointing out that you were just speculating. You just linked a video showing Schumachers driving style, it wasn't a comparison between him and Vettel, like I said, many have noted their similar driving styles. Vettel looked to Schumi, and as far as I'm concerned, Vettel is carrying on the legacy, without Schumi Vettel would have never got to where he has now. They are the only german drivers to ever win world titles.
Everybody - STOP blaming any other circumstance on Vettel's success. He fucking won fair and square, just like he has for the past three years in F1! When are people going to realise this guy is the real deal??
I respectfully disagree. How can Webber have shown no sign of winning a title when he was only 8 points behind Alonso going into the final race of 2010? It was only he and Alonso getting stuck down the field after their pit stop that allowed Vettel to take the title :)
No your argument didn't go like that, this is exactly what you said --- "I'm pretty sure he would do a great job but he couldn't win a Championchip with for example a HRT." You specifically put him down because he couldn't win in a HRT, I say, so what?! "You are giving your opinion that is not better then speculating." I haven't argued in favour of any driver at all, I was just pointing out an absurd argument, and telling you when you're speculating.
41 anni... Comunque, fategli fare altri 20 giri.., non sono certo sarebbe finita cosi. Schumacher era e restera' il piu' veloce pilota di tutti i tempi. Spesso diciamo che i numeri non contano ma credo almeno siano utili, quindi una domanda: come si stabilisce se un pilota e' piu' veloce, o meno, dai gp vinti, dalle pole, dai giri veloci in gara... Personalmente credo che i giri veloci possano dare un'idea piuttosto precisa in merito. Ma ovviamente anche le pole: Alain Prost oltre 30 pole, e ben 51 giri veloci. Ayrton Senna, la leggenda, 65 pole (impressionante), ma soli 17 giri veloci. Michael Schumacher, 68 pole e se si sottraggono le tre inutili stagioni in Mercedes (ad eccezione dell'incredibile pole a Monaco del 2012 a 43 anni!!), a GP disputati siamo piu' o meno sul livello dei due colleghi piu' anziani, ben 91 vittorie & 77 sette sette giri veloci !!. Schumacher a mio avviso in gara era sovrumano. Piu' passavano i giri e piu' forte riusciva ad andare...
@XXStylepardXX die strecke geht zweimal am start vorbei, wenn du mit deinem finger den strecken lauf abgehst, siehst du das die eigentliche strecke doppelt so lang ist
That's why I showed you the video they haven't comparisons in driving style. I admit if Redbull stays dominant then Vettel is going to reach or even set a new record that's one of the common qualities. That's all, they have same statistics but the person itself is not similar. Vettel is a German but he is not carrying the old legacy, he carries a new legacy with new rules where you can't push 100 precent, where you can't fuel, bad tyres that's why Schumacher is better in true motorsport.
Orange car, red helmet, white suit - Schumi. White car, dark blue helmet and suit - Seb. And... the balast in the both cars - with white helmets hahaha...
Oh Well, seems to me that Michael Schumacher is ahead in the race the whole time. Until the very last corner where he all of a sudden fails completly. Maybe he misses a gear or something, but I would assume he did the shifting of gears already before he enters the turn. Looks weird to me.
the age thoes'nt mutter, etc etc etc... SEVEN WORLD F1 TITLES MUTTERS!!!????. Untill some body will can't beating this record, Michael will rest the best driver of ALL TIME. POIT!.
Went who speak a well english talk to me in this way, make me smile, just this... realy. Unfortunally by the end of the end of the ninghteen century, the english is became the most used. But one day probably, the spanish will be the main language, yet in the first place as numbers of persons. Wich will be your reaction went a spanish, tought row YOU need to learn speak AND WRITE A better the spanish!?. The problem is that still today there is to much arrogant idiots that don't help but shut the others. I surely need to learn a better english, you boy, to be a better human been, becouse now you are very poor. If i'll want, would used the traductor but i prefere wrong, for became better... Anyway, talken with persons like you is totally useless. End of discuss...
Hello 'that guy'.., what i can answer you, i don't know. I just would tell you the my opinion about these legendary drivers. Senna was the undisputed king of the qualyfing, but as driver in races his only 19 fast laps on 180 gp (more or less), tell us was not like that. Alain on dry, was more fast: 51 fast laps, and the 77 of Michael before the usless three years on Mercedes, say the rest... Anyway every one would think what prefere, numbers a part.
That's what I'm talking about, I think 70 precent of the racers can win the WC with a Redbull. As I said Vettel is faster then Webber this time Webber was always slower then Vettel, we will se if he is good enough to race against Vettel in the future.
They have comparisons but Schumacher is a other person and his driving style is to different to compare with Vettel. I can't find the wiki page, as much as I was speculating when all the drivers would drive a Redbull Vettel wouldn't be dominant at all, that's logical.
If it's valid to criticise Vettel for not being able to win in a HRT, then it's valid to criticise Usain Bolt for not being able to run around the world 5 times in seconds.
I know he can't win in a HRT, I was pointing out that it's stupid to bash him for that when it isn't even a possible feat, you were basically bashing him for not being able to do something that is impossible.
Webber was holding the position that's why he wasn't faster. Even when Webber was trying to past Vettel, Webber had a reason, the team took his new front wing so Vettel could win the pole. So I'm aksing you wich reason has Vettel to not obey the team orders? We don't get to hear everything from the conversation but I'm pretty sure they prefer Vettel over Webber so it is even possible that he has even more reasons.Otherwise Webber wouldn't be so furious at certain moments.
@attesz01 Yes, I suddenly found an digital image stabilizer from my video camera and I use it quite lot :D all though it can be seen little if u look closely.
I said it's an absurd ARGUMENT to use against him, because it isn't even POSSIBLE to win a race in a HRT legitimately, it's a ridiculous argument to use. "Adrian Sutil he is probably faster then Vettel." Well that's just speculation and nothing more.
I have researched a little but not everyone is sure about if Red Bull uses Tc or not. Experts or not we have no proof and to be honest they have always circumventing the rules.
True because Schumacher is a legend and their driving style isn't similar at all, just watch this video : watch?v=Uk2p2nRK-p4 I don't think you can compare Vettel and Schumacher at all they are from different era's. I was speculating about Adrian, I agree with that the only fact is that Adrian drives for Force India and Vettel for Redbull so we never will know if Vettel is the fastest driver on the track. That's what I'm trying to explain the whole time. Do you agree with that or not?
Is it that hard to understand that Vettel might not be the best driver in F1? He hasn't proved it because they havn't equal cars so why is my argument ridiculous? And I know what you are trying to explain but I'm saying the whole time that my argument is pretty good.
"Grazie ragazzi. grande lavoro!"
P1 Sebastian
@@guyb6665 Vettel : Y Y Y Y E E E S S S S S S S!
ROC is such a fun sport, I feel like there should be a roc tournament featuring all the 20 drivers on the f1 grid
Is it just me or Michael could've gone through that last corner faster but he added another dab of brakes instead? Cool act from such a HERO! The phrase "don't meet your hero" doesn't apply for him
I think so too.
i thought the same
We miss you shumi get wel soon!!!
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@@Apesway :(
@@oxey_ but the day will come
No one has given up and no one will
He is back ;)
after 5 years you missing your comment and your comment didn't
Between Schumacher and Vettel such a difference in age - and Schumi fell behind on a slightly meters. Schumacher is a true champion!
the age difference is not really such a big problem here. schumacher just lost this one
age is a very big difference cuz it makes you more tough.
He let him win just look lol
Yes, because in 2011, on the same race Schumacher wins>>th-cam.com/video/XzFMS2u1RXI/w-d-xo.html
hes also a cheater
I thought of this after watching Mick race against Seb today...
Not bad for a 41 year old against a 23 year old eh? ;)
@@sh33pyyy Ehem.
it doesnt matter in a Car
@@Hapsle Yes it does. Reflexes, Reactivity, etc
An 87 yr old could drive in F1
Woogie Harrelson I don’t think so.
Race of Champions is by far the best way to finish off a year in auto racing.
Schumacher are the Best in the World!
Keep Fighting Michael!
Is
muhammad al-saleh oh ffs shut up
@@j.1985 Wtf is going on with you!!!
He is f******* right 😐
@@j.1985 Stfu nigga
@@Victor-wy7yc resorting to racial slurs now are we
Get a life
It's just a bit of fun and great to watch so stop arguing. Pastrana beat Vettel this year, they're all pros having a blast with no practice in cars they've never driven with fans in the passenger seats.
gnarkillkicksass you mean vettel beat pastrana
So glücklich, dass ich damals dort war
So cool that Seb raced with both Michael and now Mick
If you look closely, schumacher let vettel win this one on the last bend.. just saying
Yeah it's pretty obvious. He doesn't need to prove anything anyway, and he's the type who just takes these things as fun.
Haters gonna hate !!! :) Only hates, hates, and hates :P
non, je ne pense pas, il va aussi vite a 0:39 qu'a 1:13 et ont voit bien que vettel creuse l'écart a chaque passages mais bon... shumacher a 7 titres et plus de 90 victoires donc...
Yeah, you're right! It looks odd. Also Schumi got the better start and was leading at halftime. Could really be :D Though, both drive legendary!
Not sure about that. Once heard a story of him sneaking into the pitlane while under park ferme and removing the restricter from his go kart. And this was at a charity event!
Thanks for recommending me now
Why do we have these arguments on who's a good driver and who's not. To get into F1 in the first place suggests they're a brilliant driver. We will never all agree who was or is the best driver.
Schumacher is the Master
+Adrian De Souza Freitas PLZ stop kidding yoruself. SEnna is highly overrated. Schumi was a beast and he humiliated Senna as a rookie also having less hp
@G.T Sorry, but what about throwing his car on Prost in Japan?) You said funny stuff about this.
@@SebastianRBR He did that to Brundle and Rosberg as well.
Of Puppets
Keep fighting Michael
Well, we've come full circle :)
proof that there are people out there who do not throw their camera around while filming.
well done.
why is everyone talking about senna he's a great driver but there are lots of great drivers it's not only about the driver team has to be good as well some drivers don't get to shine cause of that reason Schumacher will always be one of the greats
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Schumacher legend
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I pointed out when you were speculating about other drivers possibly being faster, it's speculation and nothing more, because we don't know - the only other argument I've dealt with is the HRT one, and we can both agree now that it can't be used as a valid criticism.
"Schumacher isn't like Vettel at all Schumacher said that himself."
The first 3 years of their careers were almost identical, like I said, look at the "comparisons with Michael Schumacher" on Vettel's wiki page, you'll be stunned.
a rare seasoned piece of wisdom right there
Clearly guys, Schumi let little vettel win. He wanted the boy to be happy
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Yes he won because Schumi hit the brakes at the end.
Schumi is my favourite drive of all time, but I'm very aware of how Vettel is pretty much Michael, I mean, go on Vettel's wikipedia page and read the section called "Comparisons with Michael Schumacher", you will be very surprised.
"you don't have any proof that Vettel is the best"
Not once have I ever claimed that he was, again, I was just pointing out invalid arguments and where you were speculating.
schumacher let vettel pass. You can see it on the last lap last corner
Sei il più grande di tutti i tempi Grazie schumacher
I wonder why Schumi let up at the end?
That isn't what he said. He criticized him for not being able to win in a HRT - I pointed out that it isn't a valid criticism to say that, yet he still tried to argue that it was.
It's possible that another driver could be faster than Vettel - I never denied this.
No we might never know, I was simply pointing out that you were just speculating.
You just linked a video showing Schumachers driving style, it wasn't a comparison between him and Vettel, like I said, many have noted their similar driving styles.
Vettel looked to Schumi, and as far as I'm concerned, Vettel is carrying on the legacy, without Schumi Vettel would have never got to where he has now. They are the only german drivers to ever win world titles.
Hey dude from 8 years ago, how are u now and I am a time traveller from the future lol
@@Zenedot Hey dude from 30 minutes ago, I'm very well thanks, I stand by what I said :)
we can really say that vettel is the future shumy!
well
Everybody - STOP blaming any other circumstance on Vettel's success. He fucking won fair and square, just like he has for the past three years in F1! When are people going to realise this guy is the real deal??
I respectfully disagree. How can Webber have shown no sign of winning a title when he was only 8 points behind Alonso going into the final race of 2010? It was only he and Alonso getting stuck down the field after their pit stop that allowed Vettel to take the title :)
Nice work!
Which camera is this then?
No your argument didn't go like that, this is exactly what you said --- "I'm pretty sure he would do a great job but he couldn't win a Championchip with for example a HRT."
You specifically put him down because he couldn't win in a HRT, I say, so what?!
"You are giving your opinion that is not better then speculating."
I haven't argued in favour of any driver at all, I was just pointing out an absurd argument, and telling you when you're speculating.
vettel is my favorite but there are better drivers eg. schumacher, raikonnen senna ...
Schumacher may have let Vettel win but they were close no matter what.
You basically bashed him by saying that he can't win in a HRT, and it's worth mentioning that NOBODY can, so you can just use that argument.
41 anni... Comunque, fategli fare altri 20 giri.., non sono certo sarebbe finita cosi. Schumacher era e restera' il piu' veloce pilota di tutti i tempi. Spesso diciamo che i numeri non contano ma credo almeno siano utili, quindi una domanda: come si stabilisce se un pilota e' piu' veloce, o meno, dai gp vinti, dalle pole, dai giri veloci in gara... Personalmente credo che i giri veloci possano dare un'idea piuttosto precisa in merito. Ma ovviamente anche le pole: Alain Prost oltre 30 pole, e ben 51 giri veloci. Ayrton Senna, la leggenda, 65 pole (impressionante), ma soli 17 giri veloci. Michael Schumacher, 68 pole e se si sottraggono le tre inutili stagioni in Mercedes (ad eccezione dell'incredibile pole a Monaco del 2012 a 43 anni!!), a GP disputati siamo piu' o meno sul livello dei due colleghi piu' anziani, ben 91 vittorie & 77 sette sette giri veloci !!. Schumacher a mio avviso in gara era sovrumano. Piu' passavano i giri e piu' forte riusciva ad andare...
Therefore I said that, nobody could win with an HRT thats why we can't underestimate the other drivers and say Vettel is the best driver.
@XXStylepardXX die strecke geht zweimal am start vorbei, wenn du mit deinem finger den strecken lauf abgehst, siehst du das die eigentliche strecke doppelt so lang ist
That's why I showed you the video they haven't comparisons in driving style. I admit if Redbull stays dominant then Vettel is going to reach or even set a new record that's one of the common qualities. That's all, they have same statistics but the person itself is not similar. Vettel is a German but he is not
carrying the old legacy, he carries a new legacy with new rules where you can't push 100 precent, where you can't fuel, bad tyres that's why Schumacher is better in true motorsport.
Nobody could win a championship in an HRT, you need the full package, any champion will tell you that.
Orange car, red helmet, white suit - Schumi.
White car, dark blue helmet and suit - Seb.
And... the balast in the both cars - with white helmets hahaha...
The master still faster, schumacher
Vettel won
schumacher is like 50 years old that not fair.
Kenny G Choonit well he wanted to drive it. And he was like 43 around that time.
You’re right. It would have been a fair race only if Schumacher was at least 70+ years old.
shumacher would have had the Mercedes for the last 3 years, think about that, he would have been champ again
covington race I agree that would’ve made it 10 times world champion!
He had a lot of crashes and dnf in 2012 but always finished ahead of Rosberg.
Do people realise that drivers age? It's not like Rosberg never existed or what
Oh Well, seems to me that Michael Schumacher is ahead in the race the whole time. Until the very last corner where he all of a sudden fails completly. Maybe he misses a gear or something, but I would assume he did the shifting of gears already before he enters the turn. Looks weird to me.
No, Michael slowing on purpose, you can clearly see at final corner he slowing down
Er hat Vettel gewinnen lassen. 🙂
That looks hella fun!
@attesz01 does this have an image stabilizer ? not that isn't good filming, jut asking :D
Michael it’s James
the age thoes'nt mutter, etc etc etc... SEVEN WORLD F1 TITLES MUTTERS!!!????. Untill some body will can't beating this record, Michael will rest the best driver of ALL TIME. POIT!.
You need to learn to speak better english.
Mate, Schumi is considered 2nd best behind Senna
Went who speak a well english talk to me in this way, make me smile, just this... realy. Unfortunally by the end of the end of the ninghteen century, the english is became the most used. But one day probably, the spanish will be the main language, yet in the first place as numbers of persons. Wich will be your reaction went a spanish, tought row YOU need to learn speak AND WRITE A better the spanish!?. The problem is that still today there is to much arrogant idiots that don't help but shut the others. I surely need to learn a better english, you boy, to be a better human been, becouse now you are very poor. If i'll want, would used the traductor but i prefere wrong, for became better... Anyway, talken with persons like you is totally useless. End of discuss...
Hello 'that guy'.., what i can answer you, i don't know. I just would tell you the my opinion about these legendary drivers. Senna was the undisputed king of the qualyfing, but as driver in races his only 19 fast laps on 180 gp (more or less), tell us was not like that. Alain on dry, was more fast: 51 fast laps, and the 77 of Michael before the usless three years on Mercedes, say the rest... Anyway every one would think what prefere, numbers a part.
That Guy lol. Senna is a typical dead hero
That's what I'm talking about, I think 70 precent of the racers can win the WC with a Redbull. As I said Vettel is faster then Webber this time Webber was always slower then Vettel, we will se if he is good enough to race against Vettel in the future.
They have comparisons but Schumacher is a other person and his driving style is to different to compare with Vettel. I can't find the wiki page, as much as I was speculating when all the drivers would drive a Redbull Vettel wouldn't be dominant at all, that's logical.
If it's valid to criticise Vettel for not being able to win in a HRT, then it's valid to criticise Usain Bolt for not being able to run around the world 5 times in seconds.
he didn't let vettel pass this year ;)
Yeah, I got the info from others. Thx.
I like Schumacher.
@UncutShooterGames oh ok, thx now i see he changed the infos
cut the video just as seb was about to do some donuts
@dovic3107 lol xD who is the white?? :)
Я так и не понял: кто в какой машине находился и кто в итоге победил?
@fbazzoun yes...but if you are a schumacher fan,you know it...and i am a fan of vettel and schumacher
Schumacher race with retire mood
Those are KTM X bow right
@Reganam I agree, Schumacher is too good. Also Imagine watching the same video on the same day.
I know he can't win in a HRT, I was pointing out that it's stupid to bash him for that when it isn't even a possible feat, you were basically bashing him for not being able to do something that is impossible.
Are those x-bows?
Webber was holding the position that's why he wasn't faster. Even when Webber was trying to past Vettel, Webber had a reason, the team took his new front wing so Vettel could win the pole. So I'm aksing you wich reason has Vettel to not obey the team orders? We don't get to hear everything from the conversation but I'm pretty sure they prefer Vettel over Webber so it is even possible that he has even more reasons.Otherwise Webber wouldn't be so furious at certain moments.
@attesz01 Yes, I suddenly found an digital image stabilizer from my video camera and I use it quite lot :D all though it can be seen little if u look closely.
I wish Vettel stays...
How did Schumacher win? Vettel, in the white car, clearly won by some margin.
Super.
Yeah that is what I'm trying to explain.
Una bella Foto della Germania! BRAVI!
I said it's an absurd ARGUMENT to use against him, because it isn't even POSSIBLE to win a race in a HRT legitimately, it's a ridiculous argument to use.
"Adrian Sutil he is probably faster then Vettel."
Well that's just speculation and nothing more.
I have researched a little but not everyone is sure about if Red Bull uses Tc or not. Experts or not we have no proof and to be honest they have always circumventing the rules.
True because Schumacher is a legend and their driving style isn't similar at all, just watch this video : watch?v=Uk2p2nRK-p4
I don't think you can compare Vettel and Schumacher at all they are from different era's. I was speculating about Adrian, I agree with that the only fact is that Adrian drives for Force India and Vettel for Redbull so we never will know if Vettel is the fastest driver on the track. That's what I'm trying to explain the whole time. Do you agree with that or not?
I'm not saying it's impossible, I was just pointing out that 1. That argument was stupid, and 2. You're just speculating.
if he did not brake, he would have hit the wall on the outside. it was a race.
to be in F1 it needs lots of money, too. the most f1 drivers had lots of money, or a racing track...
It's not stupid because he can't win in a HRT so you need a decent car to win races.
In total Schumacher won watch the full race.
Who won?
Is it that hard to understand that Vettel might not be the best driver in F1? He hasn't proved it because they havn't equal cars so why is my argument ridiculous? And I know what you are trying to explain but I'm saying the whole time that my argument is pretty good.
It's not stupid because other people aslo can't run to the moon so you can't say wich one is faster.
I mean't to say you CAN'T use that argument, it's absurd to bash him because he couldn't win in a HRT.
Who is Vettel and which Car is Schuhmacher
Schumacher is in the orange car, which you can see cause of the red helmet and Vettel is in the white one
reminds me of those little toy tamiya car tracks.
But you specifically made an argument against Vettel by saying he couldn't do that, how fucking pointless is that? There was no point to it.
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LOL, once again Vettell showing he can do fine with a better car and no traffic.
Als sie noch Esprit Arena hieß
No we can't.
who win?
Didn't understand the circuit 😓😓
@DPense that was one heat actually, schumacher won overall.