Valkyrae Reacts To The Coldest Case Ever Solved (JCS Inspired)
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I don't really understand people commenting that the *streamer* could talk less.. If you didn't want her reaction, which is the whole point of this, then watch the original video
Right. She was talking to her chat 😂 isn’t that what streamers do? People don’t know that?? 😂
exactlyyy, its called a reaction vid for a reason
it has to do with just nonsense commentary, saying shut up every 2 minutes and adding nothing to the conversation, just interrupting the flow of the video to remember the viewer that she's present without making an effort of making an actual point. I watch her reacting a lot, and this one in particular is annoying for me too. She usually makes points on other cases, or pauses to try and understand the case better, here she did none of that, just said "shut up" "he's guilty" and made dramatic reactions on a pretty uneventful video.
They don't know how much I appreciate Rae's kindness. She is so wholesome and I feel secure and warm listening her. She won the Game Awards mostly for her personal quality.
Deadass this. Same with pausing
Imagine you are commiting a heinous crime, and you start with "Hi my name is Johnny!"
And your name is ACTUALLY JOHNNY!
did u watch the full video ?? he didn't do anything
@@agapic445 yes that's the point.
right and also why would you introduce yourself again if you already knew the girls
Bet your female
That’s actually genius on the real killer’s part. He introduced himself as Johnny while purposefully leaving a witness behind in order to frame John. John was an unpopular weirdo so he would’ve been an easy person to frame - even his own family believed he did it. The real killer must’ve been someone familiar with him & how creepy he was. Scary shit.
Im really enjoying the true crime meta, it feels like im learning watching a horror movie and a comedy all at once with a friend. Its great.
yess it's like watching a thriller suspense movie
Comedy? A real story about a real person getting murdered...
@@user-fv9ep7dv9c the comedic part is the reaction from people like Rae and hassan if you noticed they do have some really funny reactions or statements. Stop trying to make a deal out of nothing
@@clayandros2038 lmao why you so angwy
@@user-fv9ep7dv9c nobody’s angry
I didn't even need to gasp cause her gasp was perfect
We can gasp together 🤝
47:40
I like how she was so critical and then boom plot twist
The mom threw her son under the bus because she had guilt over something she wasn’t even sure off. This whole case is disturbing, useless detectives not cross referencing simple evidence, a man who molested his sisters but jailed for a separate incident then found innocent and exonerated. I hope those detectives got demoted, as for the man. Yuck, he may be innocent but he did something disgusting to his sisters.
tbf, the molesting of his sisters is also not proven. It's their word vs his, without actual evidence, you can't say he is guilty of that or not.
@@benpayne1899 with how defensive he was and giving strangers kids piggy back rides I wouldn’t doubt it. But yeah there was no case for that to prove it.
@@esRaortiz true, wouldn't put it past him in any way
I think the mom didn't say anything on death bed. It is the sisters who wanted revenge for on their brother for being molested as child made it up. The sheer determination to ask the police year and year again for a girl they might not even have met seems over the top unless they have underlying anger they wanted to appease.
The real killer probably knew John was a creep (or at least rumored to be one) and decided he’d be an easy person to frame.
the way i gasped SO LOUD when he said that he was innocent
Lmaoooo same
Swear I accidentally went to sleep and boom wake up from that😭
47:40
This is so intriguing because either
A. The mom did tell the sisters to tell the cops or B. The sister decided to take justice into her own hands
@DaFuzzBearYT yes I thought so too. They saw the opportunity and potential to get him in jail and went with it
I know I'm late, but this is the situation. The sisters made up this story to get back at him. Pretty horrible people all together.
@@perrrry the sisters are horrible for putting their pedophile brother behind bars?
@@perrrry the sisters are horrible for putting their pedophile brother behind bars?
Quote unquote "justice" lol
he may not be guilty of killing that girl, but he's still guilty of being a terrible human
also its pretty sad that this case may never be solved due to him being put behind bars
The problem isn't that he was a terrible person, its that you or me could just as easily been wrongfully imprisoned or even given the death penalty for a crime we didn't commit.
@@maxkrepps9474 id say they both are problems
@@hunterbargstadt3847 Where do you know this from? The video said he got convicted for the murder, so I assumed the video did their homework. If you think people don't get convicted wrongfully for things like this, without having done anything wrong, you're on meth.
It really was the perfect storm, a molester and pedophile matching so well the description of someone who abducted, raped and killed a child, on an evening he, in theory, didn't have the time to be there but _actually_ had all the time in the world to be there because he drove back home instead of taking the train... Had he not placed that call, anyone would say there was sufficient circumstantial evidence to incriminate him, when it was likely just a huge coincidence.
I still can't believe he can openly say he molested his sisters and walk free, "it happened when we were all young" sure buddy, either they weren't born by then or you were in your late teens when it happened, you can't exactly have done that when you _both_ were young with that big an age gap moron... I don't understand how the hell that didn't land him anything.
@@ozyssahAnd I'd say you have NO PROOF of his guilt kiddo.
I’d just like to say it is definitely possible to lie on a lie detector test. You just have to learn how to calm your heart and blood pressure along with your oxygen intake.
Which is less than probable for him seeing how red his face was :/
@@shakewell42 true
A lie detector isn’t even considered primary evidence anymore. Only supplemental and used to prompt more investigation/probably suspicion.
Calm down Naruto
The easiest way to get passed the test, is to convince yourself that you're telling the truth.
the FBI was doing gymnastics with timing like mans was the flash. Dude was still deffo creepy tho
i feel bad that he got blamed for all this but i mean he did molest his sisters, the guys not a saint but he is innocent of marie’s murder
no he wasnt hes 100 percent innocent
@@dexter2178 I know he’s innocent of the crime but dude was still super dodgy when faced with the questions about his sisters. We know he’s innocent of the Murder but we still have yet to find out whether he was a molester or not.
i know right! even tho he is innocent i almost vomit when he said he love her. its so weird 🤮
I mean, the timeline put forward in the video do not prove he didn't do it. "He couldn't have driven too fast" is essentially what he's saying, which is dumb. There might be more evidence, but this video doesn't prove it.
getting away with shit back in the day was actually a joke.
ikr and now people complaining sentences too harsh you cant make people content ever sadly
Yeah crime and serial killers pre 2000s were out of control dna tracing improvements literally helped with so much cold cases and the fact people are way more hesitate to commit crimes due to easily being found
@@sparknazo yeah like the whole stephanie lazarus case. if those cops didnt look into the case again and investigate into dna tracing, that crime would probably still be cold
The 1900's were practically the purge
Legit as long as you weren't there when the cops showed up, you were golden
"Justice doesn't have an expiration date." Sadly when it comes to certain crimes, such as rape, there is the statute of limitations.
This man is like a teenager at school being anmoyed when a teacher asks him questions lol
Because he was innocent
true lol he is so annoying, cant imagine having a fight with him oh God 😂
"WHO ASKED?!" Has become my new favorite thing during these type of videos. Rae you are the best, don't ever change.
This video is actually a very good lesson. You never actually know what's going on with an investigation, no matter how current, because you only ever get a tiny portion of the story from the media and others, even those who may be involved. It always amazes me how many people don't think about that and draw horrible conclusions based on a little bit of slanted, even warped, information.
ya know, elderly people can be stubborn as a mule, but he’s as stubborn as 100 mules and 3 donkeys having a bad day.
I'm shocked that no dummies got on here and tried to say that a donkey and a mule are the same. I kno they're not, but I'm still shocked af.
That plot twist had me jaw dropping!! No doubt he was guilty of assault of his sisters and maybe others, so I am happy he is jailed - BUT WHO KILLED MARIA!!?!? And the family will probably never know... plus the fact the police ignored the timeline is just weirding me out.
I feel like he was saying the guy with the green shirt was the guy who murdered them?
HE killed Maria. Y’all literally changed your minds just because this TH-camr says he’s innocent? xD and he’s basing that claim on faulty statements on when the girl was abducted 🤦♂️
@@miiketookit i'm only ten minutes into the video but i was wondering that if john tessier actually killed maria then why wasn't he recognised by kathy, the other girl present. they were even living in the same neighborhood, she must have been familiar with him- and if not then she could have definitely later recalled during the investigation that john was maria's abductor. did they not let kathy see john to identify him?
Didn't he get released from jail though?
@@miiketookit But it's not just a youtuber saying it. He was exonerated and declared innocent.
The youtuber gave us the facts too
i've known about this case since middle school, and i swear i haven't seen anyone covering it. i'm not the biggest fan of rae by any means (not because i dislike her, i just don't watch her at all) but i love that rae is giving this case more publicity.
this is so sweet
I suspected his innocence when he became defensive, it was a gut feeling. I ignored my gut because of the narrative thread. I feel like this is a great example of why we shouldn’t make assumptions, and felt coaxed into believing he was guilty of the murder. For me, this was definitely a cautionary tale.
Wait so you changed your mind simply because this TH-camr says so and the fact that he made a call at a certain time? Wow.
@@miiketookit simply said, ofc not proven. The sisters probably took the chance for justice to blame him after "molesting" them at young age. So yea, he is innocent when it comes to Mari's death but, idk about the sister's claim as it can't be proven.
@@miiketookit "You killed her, I don't care that we have proof you were in Europe at the time, we don't like you so you're guilty" is equivalent to what you're saying.
I’m sorry but when Valky said “that’s one foot through the door” I just imagined her kicking a foot through a physical closed door 😅😂
Well… knowing Rae
I am officially addicted to these types of videos.
Rae angrily liking is hilarious
59:16
So the dude was literally in love with a kid, he had an alibi so that he couldn't have abducted her.
but the way he talked about her, he had a thing for that kid.
Respect to Lao. I mean obviously he didn't want to expose himself, but wow that was so frustrating.
Ah, the weird sisters. Janet waited 14 years until her father had died before going to the police with the story of the "confession" because she knew he would corroborate Jack's alibi. Isn't she a sweetheart? Mary, who heard the same "confession", didn't remember her mother saying much of anything, but, by golly, if Janet says it's true, then it must be true!
Were the cops telling the truth? All they were trying to do was get Jack to sign a confession, and if they lied their asses off to do so, who cared? They would never be held accountable for having done so. David Zulawski provably lied. Brion Hanley provably lied under oath. Cloyd Steiger admitted that he deliberately lied to suspects. Mike Ciesynski admitted he wasn't concerned about telling the truth. The lawyer for Irene Lau, the lady who ran the polygraph machine, admitted that she lied under oath as a witness at Jack's tiral, and that the assistant state's prosecutor, Julie Trevarthen, had lied to the judge and the public defender about whether or not a video of the polygraph interrogation even existed. (Hint - the lawyer first found about it by finding it on TH-cam.) The judge was known by the name "Hanging Judge Hallock." Even the appellate court judge, in upholding the conviction, fabricated testimony from the witnesses.
Ain't justice wonderful?
WHOA! I had no clue that the sister waited 14 years!? I thought she went to the police right after the mother had died, not that she waited 14 years for the father to die then go to the police. She's such evil it's unbelievable
Then ig this also kind of explains how he was confused about there being another girl playing with Marie when the abduction took place. He was like what girl everytime they talked about her.
he's still guilty for molesting his sisters but he's not guilty for this case, the real killer was still out there for those years and imagine the number of times detectives tunnel visioned and tried to frame someone who was actually innocent
"may" be guilty
And remember kids, never talk to police without a lawyer. Literally do not say a word without a lawyer present.
45:47 did anyone else see the subtitles have a stroke saying “detective cecinski” 😂
I was pissed on how the way he talked to the polygrapher 👁️👄👁️
My jaw DROPPED. Super well-produced segment.
Imagine caring about the brutal murder of a little girl so little that you dedicate dozens of hours of your life to convicting an innocent man instead of finding her killer.
32:55 lmao Rae calling him an idiot for not knowing how to answer but then she says "it's obviously YES", which would mean she confessed to a crime
She was saying that his behavior was the same thing as saying yes
yeah, its better not to say yes if you actually did it, however I think polygraph tests are inadmissible in court. However you never know what saying yes could affect. Maybe if he had said yes, it would've meant that nobody would've looked further into his case because either they didn't like him or they believed he basically confessed.
Ha I grew up in Sycamore. This was not talked about among children. I didnt even learn of it until highschool.
That's a good thing, but I hope stleast the children were more supervised and tought about strangers
@@temutemacular I wonder if that's a good thing to not let the children in on the knowledge that such a danger exists... Yeah the kids shouldn't hear about the exact story and details of the crime case, but at the same time I hope people back then talked to their children about the possible dangers and how to stay safe, because as we know noe the person who did this back then has never been caught :(
@@AnityC well yeah, i guess i shouldve explained more, of COURSE they should know about people like him, i just felt like highschool or middleschool is the right age to learn about them and what they did
Thank you so much for this one!!!!!
Love these! ❤️❤️❤️
That’s was a major plot twist at the end! Wow.
It's a very logical question, "have you ever committed a crime that you have never been caught before?"
If you answered YES, it could mean that you committed it and never been caught. And if you answered NO, It could also mean that No, i was never caught. Lmao. That's why he was so defensive with that question and keep on avoiding it coz he felt like he was cornered.
This video (by Matt Orchard) is literally my favorite TH-cam video. Love seeing people react to this!
I was listening to this while driving and completely didnt realize until about halfway through that I live right next to sycamore...I know exactly where this happened...
That's tweaky. I live like an hour away from sycamore and I gasped when I heard it was so close to home
That video was so well made. The whole time she was clearly acting like she knew he was guilty, it's a good twist.
Getting through this video was EXHAUSTING… I am thoroughly stressed.
I love that i dont have to whatch these alone anymore :D
I mean honestly his best alibi would have been "that was 50 years ago and I wasn't there so I don't actually remember much of anything"
Most disdain ever - Rae “Here’s your like” 😂🤣😂🤣
I think the sisters, who most likely told their mother what disturbing things happened in their home as they got older, wanted revenge for what he did, so they said he did it.
I wouldn't be suprised if the girls thought he commited the crime, due to age, but wouldn't the mother know that her child didn't commit a serious crime.
I'm just thinking that maybe the daughters telling the mother what happened later in the years, made them dislike Johnny for what he did to them, which is why she changed her answer later on, on her death bed
When it got to the point in this story of the girls saying he wasnt home when the mother did, i immediately believed it.
This is me just thinking honestly
He didn’t cross his arms because he was uncomfortable it’s a defensive position
she said literally like 2 seconds after "he's in his defensive state"
@@maxkrepps9474 so?
@@sk4rrt well I'm just sayin, the main comment isn't saying anything that rae didn't say...
@@maxkrepps9474 that’s the point
@@sk4rrt I don't get it, please explain
This case first time i saw it open my eyes to not jump to conclusion.
Watching(listening) in silence and then Valkyrae talks
me: ei forgot you were here, LOL
"I knew Maria's parents! I played with their daughters!"
"Did you play with Maria that day?"
"What?! No! She was a child!"
I believe he ment Maria's older sisters. Kay who was 15 and Pat aged 16 they did knew Jack (Johnny) and played together when they were younger. It's in the 1957 FBI/Police Reports I have read.
Also Maria did played with Jack's younger brother Bob who was 6 years old at the time, Maria would play with Bob over their house and Bob would play over at Maria's house.
All of this information I read from interviews from the 1957 police reports which they interviewed family, friends, neighbours, school teachers etc.
I love watching these so much. Thank you Valkyrae!
I want to see her watch lemino.
Exactly
Those are some high quality productions, for sure
S-tier Channel
That fact he said “ Are you trying to get to say I murdered them … - I mean I murdered the girl “
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to be a serial killer.
out of all the true crime reactions that rae has had recently, why did this story stress me out the most??
Oooop just saw that the video wasn't over... what he's innocent?! Huh?!
It stresses me out so much too probably party because my ptsd be acting up
Probably because when something isn't finished that makes people feel ver
@@sophieceleste4771 You can just delete your comment lol. Its all good.
@@ThaTyphon huh? I thought I already did. My bad 😅 thank you for reminding me. Have a lovely day ~~
That video was so well made tho even if it was messed up
29:45 Valkyrie just brought me to tears he did do a camera pose that’s fucking sick
To me it feels like he had an accomplice which is probably the guy he's throwing under the boss saying he was talking about sex, the accomplice abducted maria, Tessier sexually assaulted her since he was a sexual deviant attracted to young girls proven by molesting his sister and being weird around his neighborhood, accomplice killed her and hid the body, that's why on the lie detector he was speaking truth when asked did you kill maria. Also, he didn't want to be asked personal questions because he probably didn't want to be asked anything related to his missing daughter which he's most likely the culprit. A mother would never lie and say on her death bed 40 years later oh yeah that girl, it's totally john that did it if she wasnt 100% sure of it
Thats exactly what I was thinking (I know this reply comes late, but I had to say it lol)
Also the phone call document... Not sure it's as strong proof as the narrator made it seem
The other little girl that was playing, why couldn't they have her look at the suspects and identify the man...?
maybe because she’s a minor or something idrk but that’s all i can think of
omg youre right, were they dumber in the 50s? bc this sounds like common knowledge and one of the first things you might do...
They did have her look at the suspects and identify people. They literally produced dozens of photos even people who slightly fit the picture she painted. And she identified several people.
neverminddd omg at 43:17 they say kathy identified him as the man so i guess since he was cleared by the police, they just assumed she was wrong
@@mariahlynn7715 ya I can't tell if they purposefully just got a bunch of photos and placed him in it just to see how he'll react or if those were actually photos she identified. Because he didn't recognize any of these guys it seemed which would be odd imo
john: "it is none of your business, it has nothing to do with maria"
in video CC: music
I think that you can’t move in a polygraph test because any disruption will fuck up the test
I'm glad he took the taste test.
Her reactions are more dramatic than the actual video.
then just watch the original video? you clicked onthis video for her reaction...
@@jennywithaglock3916 but I love her dramatic reactions tho....
@@queeniee9800 cant read that tone from what u wrote tbh the fullstop aint helpin, just a misunderstanding ig
@@jennywithaglock3916 kinda funny how you blame her for how she phrased it instead of just saying sorry or something similar for jumping to conclusions 😂
@@Simpie32 just trying to explain that tone cant be read through text and the lack of any emotion really does read cold
It makes me sad, how far even the most qualified people will go to fit their own narrative
Lmao "is he free to go? No"
I don't understand why questions about him molesting his sister would be considered "control questions" sounds like bullshit but even the narrator is buying it. How could something so serious, emotionally charged, and actionable be a control question? Shouldn't a control question be something like "Do you drive a car?"
I think they have to gauge your reactions to relatively harmless questions to uncomfortable ones. That’s my best guess I don’t know anything about lie detectors 😂
It was literally explained in the video wth
@@carolinedelafuente7251 It was "explained" but it's bullshit. There is no definition of control where those questions make sense. They are questions about 50 years in the past that aren't even established to have actually occurred. You can't draw any logical conclusion from his answers because you don't even know what the questions imply.
My theory is they included them not a "control" questions but either to trick him into confessing, or to intentionally get him upset and off kilter.
Understand this was a bad cop maliciously framing an innocent man for murder, so don't even dare claim he was going by the book.
@@carolinedelafuente7251 That was not the truth tho, they were most likely trying to make him look bad. It was a lose lose situation. Whether or not he did it, that is something else entirely.
@@Rimuru_Tempest_- ???? I just said it was explained in the video. Whether they're trying to make him confess or look bad doesn't matter in the question that was asked
Valkyrae, you're awesome! I love it when you say "we didn't ask that" or so many of your other funny comments, like how you want to punch that person and so on. Love your reactions. I feel the same way.
He was innocent, watch the video.
26:28
When they said “Johnny”
I screamed “ HERES JOHNNY”
More for me to binge at ~
The way the cop stuttered after he said "maria's parents knew me, I played with her in the backyeard" is such a mood, that would have taken me aback too. I would have been certain just with that.
How she was acting is a perfect example of mob justice behavior influenced by confirmation bias.
Pretty sad because this is how TOO MANY innocent men get locked up.
Yup
55:46 it looks like Rae is the judge from where her camera and the table is
37:46 bro when I seen this i died laughing the way he says no to hims is insane😂
Could he have paid someone to make that call in his name as a cover up? Or was he visibly identified making the call
This is possible, however I think it is circumstantial (I'm not sure, I'm not a law expert); unless the person he would've paid were caught or something, which is basically impossible. So if this were to be brought up in court I think it would just be objected upon.
It kinda feels like whishful thinking, I mean so many things could be overlooked in theorical "what ifs" scenarios, but unless there's substantial evidence backing them up they can't be taken into consideration when this results in such important decisions
i mean. i dont think the evidence in general was enough for a conviction, but i DEFINITELY dont think the phone call proved his innocence
Not going to lie it’s reeeeeally hard to believe he’s innocent.
@@Krobluv1172 I know it’s just too weird. I feel like a piece of the puzzle never came to light.
@@elicruze7188 Maybe he had an accomplice? Thats the only thing that came to my mind. Someone that made the call from Rockford after getting notified by him and gave his name. Or someone that abducted Maria when he was in Rockford and then he came back and did whatever sick things did to her, but after that the accomplice killed the girl and thats why he is so confident that he wont get caught lying about himself abducting or killing the girl
NAH THE ENDING WHEN THEY SAID HE WAS INNOCENT I WAS IN SHOCK
47:41 the best gasp ever
I hate the fact that he lived a long life
He was innocent, why do you hate the fact he lived his rightful long life? Nothing is proven about any of his supposed illegal acts and therefore he should be allowed the live his life
@@benpayne1899 he touched his sister
@@imapimp212 I’d agree with you if we knew that to be true. No evidence other than the word of a sister who hates him, possibly for being molested by him possibly not. You can’t say it with confidence and therefore you assume innocent until proven guilty.
@@benpayne1899 he was already caught off guard even you can already tell that he's guilty during interrogation he was very cautious about the questions being asked. I'm just not satisfied about the train ticket explanation, things should be complicated back then the technology was not yet advanced.
@@imapimp212 According to who? The only statements we have of that is from his sisters, who clearly have some sort of distain towards him, evident by them not allowing him to go to his mother's funeral. We have no clue what happened between him and his family. Why do you think his sister are more credible than he is? Is it because he is annoyed and standoffish while being wrongly investigated for a crime that was physically impossible for him to commit and completely cleared of 50 years ago while being targeted by police? I'm not saying he didn't but there is no credible evidence that suggests he did.
when he talks about the grade school he lived near towards the start of the video, you'd be surprised at how valuable that information is in context with the other evidence they have.
MAPs (I'm using MAP as an acronym bc pedophilia is a broad spectrum ranging in ages) will often live near schools, daycares and afterschool program places to be closer to their favoured age range to make themselves feel more comfortable.
what is a MAP?
@@FallenSkater1940 it’s an acronym for “minor attracted person.” It’s like a nicer way of saying pedophile, it’s often how they personally refer to themselves that way it feels less disgusting and more like a preference
Just say pedophile... never ever use "map", it's used between pedophiles and in pedophile communities (which are awful and shouldn't exist) because most others don't know the term.
Also, how on earth does "map" not include the exact same broad age range and mean the exact same thing as pedophile???? You can literally use them interchangeably, stop bullshitting, DON'T use the word "map", people will think you are a pedophile, like I am currently.
@@Scandium_quasar on the other hand, if you come across someone using sex offender slang it would be easier to identify and avoid them. the originally commenter pretty much just outed themselves as a creep, for example.
"pedophilia is a broad spectrum ranging in ages"? Yeah, ages below the legal age aka minors. its a term used by pedophiles to "justify" being pedophiles. Its a disgusting attempt at normalizing and "destigmatizing" pedophilia and is being used amoungst pedophiles, many of whom claim it is a sexuality, which is not only insulting towards the LGBTQ+ community, but also extremely damaging to the community. DO NOT use the term MAP since it only benefits and validates pedophiles, and will make it seem like you are one. I hope you only used this term because you are uneducated about it and its implications, but if you in anyway subscribe to ANYTHING this term stands for I urge you reevaluate your beliefs and if you need to, get help.
Craziest plot twist when they said bro was innocent
bro knowing that such horrid people live in the same city as you is actually terrifying 😭
Anybody else notice the original video uploaded April 1st, and thought it was going to be a joke video?
it essentially was though
I watched it right when it got uploaded and the plot twist still got me
They way he interrupted is a clear sign of a guilty Conscience bc I would do that when I would still cookies from the cookie jar when I was younger. My late father would do that when he would fight with my mom about money. It helps stop the point of the conversation
45:05 RaeCS is learninggggg
A phone call really saved his life
What if it wasn't John that make the collect call but someone else for him and the neighbors didn't see him or notice it was him. Idk
Both or kind of unlikely because he was at the recruitment center all day and the manager confirmed that it was him that made the collect call to his dad. The neighbors also would have probably would have taken notice of him because that’s how neighbors were back then. If anything the person who did this more then likely didn’t live anywhere near them.
So someone else came to Rockford at the recruitment center to make a call for him to his family for 2 minutes? And what neighbors he’s not even in the same town lol
@@c2shifty368 it’s doesn’t help that you literally couldn’t coordinate such a abduction like that back then. In Rockford back in then it was about a 40-50 minute drive just to get to the town. It also doesn’t help that you can’t prepare to abduct a girl when she plays outside at literally anytime of the day which makes planning very difficult.
@@evanmcc99 and they probably didn’t find the man because they only looked at people with the name or nickname Johnny why would the kidnapper say his name knowing he’s only taking 1 and leaving the other alive?
@@c2shifty368 the nickname Johnny wasn’t the primary focus. Their basis for culprits revolves around the description that the other girl gave them. They produced several dozen pictures for her to identify and she identified at least twelve. The problem is that everyone she identified had a alibi or turned out to be a dead end. For all we know the description she gave wasn’t even accurate.
I was watching this all the way through, thinking he'd done it, however he shouldn't have been convicted because all of the evidence was circumstantial. I'm surprised to see he was innocent but still this was a complete failure of justice and it was ridiculous he was convicted.
circumstantial evidence can get a conviction. that its not enough to convict is a myth
I was just thinking right before the end, it doesn’t actually seem like there’s enough evidence to have convinced this guy.
1:42 it was bill cosby.. Valk's scowl while watching him is hilarious..
You have to take everything the criminals say with a grain of salt. They could be lying or they could be telling the truth. I do like how the narrator simplifies things or explains other things. Another thing is that I never fully judge them until the end of the video.
Dude, the fact that his mom LIED about him being home the entire time even though he had a valid alibi is hella sus it's like she knew something... Like maybe the fact that he was molesting his sisters...
Rae mentioning Boze... That's a crossover episode I need to see! 💕🙏🏼
imagine finding out your dad/grandpa kidnapped and killed someone before you were born 😳
okay but maybe he called his friend so that his freind would kidnap her and Idk maybe they should investigate the guy he called
This video needs to show twitch chat
Valkyrae streams on TH-cam. As far as I'm aware, TH-cam's chat cannot be downloaded like Twitch's.
I've seen the Outsider on HBO, i can tell it was El Cuco
Valk needs to understand the reason he says IDK is not just cause he tryna hide lies but even if we was tryna be truthful.. it was 50 whole ass years
This is the greatest clickbait of all time
I was having a feeling that this guy was not a murderer but i was not sure why. did this happen to anyone else?
JCS already described someone who is innocent, and he's exhibited mostly those traits. Like direct answers, annoyed at the police, etc. The only thing he didn't do (and I don't blame him for it) is that he should've called a lawyer at the very second that he felt that he's being suspected.
miss watching these videos :/
This case is so cold, it has frostbite.