A bad day in Utica
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- November 11, 1999 was a bad day for the Conrail Mohawk Dispatcher. First a westbound freight stopped just east of Utica station with a bad locomotive. Then an eastbound freight went into emergency in the station. What follows is a series of unusual moves to clear the mess up. This is my first try at captions because the video needs some form of narrative. The video is VHS quality on a very gray day but the story it tells is a good one.
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I worked on the Lake Shore as the Lounge attendant from 92-96 off and on. I never saw an Triple Crown equipment on the train, and this is after me as we had old coaches not Amfleet II's. It was a real rust bucket of a train. We also had more MHC cars, we hauled enough mail everyday that payed for the train and the passengers were a bonus. Thanks for sharing.
My old stomping grounds, use to hang out at Utica Union Station & watch the switching along with the constant Conrail freights breezing thru. The Lake "For Sure" Limited LOL, always ran late but this brings back great memories & for that I thank you 😊 !!!
Haven't been in Utica in years...still have relatives there and in Ilion...met my first wife there way back in 1958...
Awesome video
Action packed, terrific!
Good video...enjoyed it.
Anybody who thinks American railroads' physical plant is in poor shape probably can't recall the ever-increasing burden of "deferred maintenance" back in the Sixties and Seventies. There are still lightly-used branch lines were decrepit facilities aren't worth the expense of cleaning up, but the former PRR Wilkes-Barre Branch along which I live was almost completely rehabilitated in the late Nineties, and most of the eyesores are long gone. And tat line sees only 4-6 moves a day.
Donald Shultz to--- Well with all the commies and Fascist's heading out of office just maybe we can get things fixed up and replaced.
@@chrisparlow4450 something tells me you have no clue what communism is... Because no one on planet Earth has ever experienced it
Chris Parlow y'all be driving Russian trains soon.
@@MrMercurybullet no one will drive them.....the computer will
Good video 😁👍
0:24 is that a steam train
didn't read all the comments so if someone's said it before then sorry - but the captions were well done. If that's your first effort then you've set the bar high. Interesting stuff. Also just wondering about the last few vehicles on the Amtrak train - looked like freight? Anyone got any insight for an Australian, where passenger trains (the few we have outside big cities) just carry passengers?
Gray.. Thanks for the comment... That was a period in time whe Amtrak tried to add to their bottom line by carrying packages and express. Those road railers were chosen because there was no need to load and unload at the receiving end.. It did not last long... so it must have been a failure financially...
Gray... Thanks for the good comment...That was a period in time when Amtrak was trying to add to their bottom line with package express service with RoadRailers tied onto the rear of their long distance trains. Roadrailers were chosen to save off loading to trucks at terminals.. They no longer do that so it was not successful..
They tried Roadrailers in Australia too - again unsuccessful. Train driver friend of mine said they basically combined all the bad features of trucks and trains: too heavy to be effective as trucks, too light to survive as trains - couldn't shunt them according to the Australian Rail Track Corporation manual if memory serves. Pity.
15:31 Is that an E-unit? What a great video.. Thanks.
Jai... That locomotive in the distance is an EMD F9.. It is ex Alaska RR #1508 and now belongs to the Adirondack Scenic Railroad based in Utica.
Wasnt 5007 in the Chase Maryland Wreck? Sorry if I'm wrong.
18 Years ago today!
Been STO there in the 80's never had many bad days on the Mohawk, not compared to the Pocono Mountains.
yep it is
What kind of horn is that? MA&N @ 2:04
K3L
Sounded good fr fr
Grand trunk that is indeed a steam locomotive at 9:31 in the video. Must be privately owned. Or used to be
That is NYC class B11 0-6-0 number 6721 Alco 1913. She is on display at Union Station Utica and is owned by the Utica and Mohawk Valley Chapter of the NRHS. Sadly she was recently damaged by a runaway freight car. repairs are pending...
@@jaywinn481 the repairs have been completed. The tender took the brunt of the damage when it ramed the stair tower.
FYI: I moved NYC 6721 here back in October of 1999 from the Clarion Historical park in Dayton, Ohio.
For the record, we had 2 steam engines in the station 🚉 that October. Columbus day weekend was the train show and the NYS&W 142 in the shop down the street. With repairs on 142 completed, I asked Earl Pardinne if we could bring them together for a send off to the turn of the century.
With Old Winston Link's CP steam engine in the yard, 142 passed by her and headed down to the team track and picked up the 6721 for the backup move to the station.
A previous arranged Announcement was made of the arrival and the station emptied out to track 6 to witness History of the arrival of 2 steam engines into Utica's Union Station less than 90 days from the turn of the century.
Prowd to of made it happen.
Richard Bause, Board Member
Utica & Mohawk Valley Chapter National Railway Historical Society .😊
@@richardbause2453 Thanks for the info .. If I had known it earlier I surely would have included it in my latest book.. "Utica Railroads 1950-2010..A look back six decades" Maybe in the second edition.. Thanks again.. Jay
A heritage dinning car miss em the food was always good at 11:18
9:31 is that a steam engine
Yes... It is an ex NYC 0-6-0 number 6721 owned by the local RR Historical society on display. Sadly it was damaged by a runaway boxcar in July 2015.
Jay Winn also is this In Utica michigan
Wait I just figured out
Grand trunk western Railroad channel saw that, too.
are they going to restored NYC 6721 to operational status
Looks like the conductor pissed His pants................
Break time = Saranac Brewery !!!!!
If 5007 had a bad Axle it wouldn't be able to move
Radio chatter referred to a "bad axle on 5007" hence the slow speed set out..
Sounded like the wheel bearings were starting to seize up.
Theres a steam engine under the bridge at 0:28 and 9:25 whos is it ?????
NY central owed by station..It got hit by a runaway freight car from a siding uphill 5 miles away...35 mph collision speed. Bad deal.
Maybe it's just me, but it seems we're looking more and more like a third world country all the time. From the rusty broken down equipment to the weeds growing in the tracks.
Clinton, while signing the NAFTA bill, stated that "NAFTA means jobs. American jobs, and good-paying American jobs. If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't support this agreement."[18]
the repubs and dems both screwed us on that one. The repubs and dems both screwed us on inaction of the H1b visa program also. The bullshit goes all the way back to the mid eighties.
JetMechMA thank gods Trump is cleaning up this mess
Yeah Bush conceived of NAFTA and his bosom buddy Wild Bill passed it.
We had a bad run of presidents there, hopefully things will be better in the future.
As to this being a 3rd world country ... it's far from that. But yes, it could go back to that. Especially places in Europe these days. In some areas, even the police won't go!
Amtrak should go back to the phase lll scheme it looks so generic now.
21:00 sounds like a steam locomotive.
Sure does lol
What's MA&N?
Mohawk, Adirondack & Northern... A short line railroad in the Genesee Valley Transportation network..(GVT) sister road to the D-L in Scranton, PA
Incomplete video of the train in emergency. A bad axle is not 'engine trouble'. Showing the front truck tells us nothing. The east bound was not 'stalled', it was in emergency apparently. GTR - how long do you want us all to 'wait'. Michael, that is not wheel bearings. It is the sound of wheels and flanges on tight gauge rail. CSX 8123 was also NOT 'stalled', they were waiting for a clear signal.
Interesting video and comments, wish people here stopped complaining about trains, I think the tracks have first refusal as to " who was there first!"
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