"MA&N Plow Extra" Utica-Lyons Falls, NY Branch
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- Watch as Mohawk, Adirondack & Northern No. 2456, a C425 Alco built in 1964, takes the railroad's OF Jordan Spreader north on the 45-mile Utica-Lyons Falls, NY branch on Feb 21, 2018. This video captures the work train northbound through Remsen, Boonville (both town & village), Denley and Port Leyden.
I'm in both Remsen and Boonville occasionally for my work but never laid eyes on this beauty wish I had!
Beautiful paint scheme!!
Absolute great rail therapy....Thanks for sharing
I caught about a dozen of your videos while I was working on a resin freight car model. They are very relaxing and informative. Thanks, I appreciate it!!!
And, of course gave them all Thumbs Up!!
Cool Engine! The plowing action is great, too!
I live a mile from the HP Depot. Love seeing these videos of local rail.
What a cool vid of MA&N pushing through that heavy snow. That Utica, NY area looks nice.
All that snow just North of us in Oneida, 72 here today, and watch him at crossing in the T-shirt, Only in NY. Damn good video. Thanks.
I grew up in stanwix heights ..outside of rome..we had old abandoned rail lines..around the area.. great for snowmobiles.. back when snow was snow..lol. And cold.. moved on .. from there.. great place to be raised..
Enjoyed watching - and hearing - an old Alco run.
Great video. Snow and men wearing short sleeves! Please keep these videos coming.
This was very satisfying to watch.
Beautiful!! Nice work
Nothing like taking your toys out to play in the snow....LOL. Great video.
🚂 Awesome videos ! 👍🏻
Very professional production! I worked on the track crew for one season (I think it was 2006) and then got laid off. Great bunch of guys - Dale and Big John the signal maintainer.
(Bob)
Thanks for your kind words! Jon K still works for the MA&N. Check out my FB group, "Railroading Rambler," for more Mohawk Valley/Adirondack railroading features.
Subbed on the first vid! Keep up the great work...
Beautiful diesel-electric locomotive made by ALCO!! Damn, I wish ALCO never went bankrupt and that it was a major competition to GE and Caterpillars EMD nowadays...
Wait ALCO desnt exists?
THANK YOU FOR SHARE THE VIDEO
Nice, I enjoyed this !!!
I remember snow like that when I lived in Misawa, in the 1970's.
Superb captures !!
Thanks!
Excelente video!!
Great video and daily report! Greetings from Italy. Ciao, Stefano :-)
Thanks so much, glad you liked it!
This is great ! I love to see action on these historic rails, as they once belonged to the Utica & Black River Railroad. In the 1800's, vacationers would go from Utica, to Trenton Falls or continue through Carthage and on to the Thousand Islands and Ogdensburg along the St. Lawrence river. Lumber trains would return loaded with lumber from the mills in Watertown all the same tracks. That whole area north of Utica is a true early American railroading frontier.
Yup and it's all gone now. There was track all over the St Lawrence Valley and most of it is gone. Used to be 2 lines coming into Ogdensburgs port. Just a single line from Canton now and it hardly gets used. Sad to see.
@@Bret4207 I can verify that. I'm from Ogdensburg. I had the pleasure of riding with the crews of the Penn Central back in the early 70's. Ogdensburg to Dekalb Jct. Never been on the other RR, (the old Rutland), but yes, at least those tracks are still there, with limited use. (operated by Vermont Railroad now)
Awesome video.
great video!
Awesome video!
Looks like they should have had that Jordan Spreader ahead of the locomotive and facing the other way when they got to Port Leyden.
Nice looking livery...
That was freaking awesome.
Boonville -- there is also a Boonville, Missouri. Once had MKT and MoPac running through it, now just UP along the riverbank.
That's quite a contrast. Plowing snow and you all are wearing T- shirt's. BTW the C425 looks and sounds fantastic.
Thanks for sharing.
These videos make me GLAD I live in the South.
yeah & I live in West Nebraska & snows don't get this deep where I is usually
I spend a lot of time in western Nebraska and thankful of that too.
yeah? cool
2:02 Guy in green thinking "But I've just plowed this road!"
Very nice paint scheme.
Great video
Cool video on the improper use of a Jordan Spreader.
good video!!!!!!!!!
That is a cool job !
Not to be a wise-ass, but it certainly seemed like the Jordan spreader was pretty much superfluous, on the wrong end of the locomotive, and of course, facing the wrong way. They somehow need to get that spreader turned 180 degrees and moved ahead of the locomotive. Not knowing the track conditions, or whether the Mohawk Adirondack and Northern has a turntable or a wye somewhere, I cannot criticize, only suggest. The C455 with a small plow did pretty well, but the crew certainly had to worry about derailing in hard pack snow. Unusual that the weather was at 59 degrees so soon after a heavy snowfall; that makes the snow wet and heavy and hard to push out of the way. Great video!
very satisfying !!!
Nice to see old iron still working hard.
Up until the mid 1980's I spent quite a bit of time in Boonville, and still occasionally visit. I don't recall ever seeing any train activity. Is this a reactivated line?
Good easy-viewing well-shot vid - We return-drive Rte 12 twixt Canada and CT twice a year. 'Relieved' to see the oilcars gone
afetr several trips wondering whether they'd been forgotten - ha ha. Ever considered NY Up-State to be a beautiful and varied
geographical Gem - do hope to see more from you in simialr vein and locale. Thanks!
Glad you liked the video, I had fun making it. The oilcars will be back, however, as the MA&N will again be storing them between Boonville-Lyons Falls. I expect they will begin bringing them north from Utica any day now (if they haven't already started).
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Utica, NY...even in the summertime, an incredibly grim place. Must be even worse in the winter.
I'm sure the RR believes its safer to cut the flangeways with the heavier loco on the way out , and then use the spreader to push the snow farther away from the ROW on the return trip.
Love the short sleeve shirt LOL. Cold, whats cold.
And then they realize they had the plow on the wrong end
I think that's just for controlling the snow pushed off to the side.
Awesome!
Very nice video! Greetings
Nice catches! Always video a train approaching a grade crossing so we can hear the horn and in case a vehicle is hit.
nice looking ALCO
This Alco predates me by about a decade yet it looks and sounds better. Great to see an old Alco even still running, but being in such good condition... that's impressive.
Nice video
Best example of putting the cart before the horse. Gee Wiz. PS. Great video. Thanx
Easier to open the branch and crossings with the engine the when coming back they will clear the snow from the rails with the flanger on the Jorden spreader. I've done a couple of branch lines when I worked for Conrail as an engineer only my power was an a pair of Alco RS-3's back in 1974.
Thanks for your comment!
James Shanks was that before or after the RS-3s were rebuilt with EMD engines
Tell me please. normally, the plow must be placed in front of the locomotive ?
How often is this line used?
I used to drive past the tracks in Boonville for years and have never seen a train
As a former conductor, I can tell you it's really stressful when you're on a thru freight that 14,000 ft long and the rails are covered with snow. You're trained to watch the rails, it's scary when you can't see them at 60mph and they're covered with snow. You need to see switch points, gage etc. Foamers think it's a great job. It's not. It's really hard
You're just a sissy and whiner. Lot's of the best things in life are hard, also this guy was just filming quietly and out of the way. Stop trying to put people down just to feel better about yourself you little man.
Shut up Nancy boy and stop projecting about "Foamers" you fake wannabe.
Superb
That's some heavy,wet snow!
very nice
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To bad the tracks were torn out between Booneville and Lowville, that would have made a great scenic railroad. I worked for the MA&N back in in the early 90's out of Carthage. A cool video though.
The tracks are actually in place in the 10 miles between Boonville-Lyons Falls. The New York Central pulled out 14 miles between Lyons Falls-Lowville in the early 1960's thereby severing its St Lawrence Division. This was done to reduce the amount of property taxes the Central had to pay.
You are right, My mistake I got my towns mixed up. I actually switched Lyons Falls pulp and paper when I worked for the "MA&N" in 93 I think it was, then they like so many other mills and industries in New York went belly up. Still think that line would have made a great tourist RR.
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awesome
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1:40 seems a bit pointless for it to be backing into the snow if the plow is on the other side
I thought the same thing.
Their must be a protocol or rule which is why they did this I guess.
Very cool
what type of engine was behind it? looked like it might been dropping sand maybe?
Since you were way faster keeping up ahead they should've just made you clear the snow. Hehehe
Nice job clearing...I'd be so afraid of the locomotive riding up on the hard-packed snow and derailing.
I think it did hop the rail at the last crossing in the video (mid point in the video) you can see the engine jilt to the side and hear somone yell. I think that's why the left the spreader behind on the 2nd attempt.
When I was a locomotive engineer I owned the New England produce switcher which has as power a SW-1500 assigned there. Many a time in the winter as a lot of trackage the flange ways would freeze solid and one off them at a 350 foot crossing, back and forth would usually take anywhere from 15 minutes to over an hour going forward until you saw the lead truck vearing off where the track is stop, back up just creeping along. No track crew available. The ice would add a couple of hours to our day every day in the winter to open up the tracks so we could set our refrigerator cars for each consigned customer. Once it melted it was a lot easier work.
like what he said!!
@@jamesshanks2614 No pick or pry bar in the cab to manually clear the flange ways?
A locomotive in Colorado derailed and tipped about 25 degrees at a grade crossing.
Crew too lazy to clear hard ice from the flange ways? No need to clear all. Just enough.
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2:15-2:35 SO SATISFYING!!
This is what I see when someone uses their locomotive in the garden railway and plows right through the snow 3:10
Nice video! Thank you. 1:50 Why so slow? Concerned ice in flangways may derail some wheels?
Little puzzled why the spreader wasn't being pushed along, spreading ?
No. 2456 cleared the tracks northward. The real purpose in bringing the spreader was to really clear the ROW between Lyons Falls-Boonville on the return trip. For whatever reason, this operating preference works best for the railroad. The MA&N is likely to store cars on the 10-mile stretch of tracks between Boonville-Lyons Falls just as they have done the past few years.
That spreader is made for clearing yard not large amounts of snow, that's why it has such a short plow on the front.
A Jordan spreader can clear large amounts of a lot of things, including snow. It just has to be setup properly. Here is one in deep snow. th-cam.com/video/S2lYIZPD094/w-d-xo.html Short plow on front is adjustable on both while the one in the link has the required upper sections of the plow.
I'm Little puzzled why they're wearing T-shirts
pashon4percushon, Could have been like days I've had. Snow on the ground and in the 70s. In Feb of 1988 while at Ft Eustis ( Virginia ) it was sub freezing in the morning, rapidly melting ice and snow by noon with temps in the 70s, raining by 1300, hail by 1330, and snow by 1400. And then I got out of that crazy weather and flew back south to Florida.
Fantastic film, love the snow, the clarity and the ALCO. Over here in the UK we have lost all our first generation diesels, all the new stuff is boring and they sound like hair dryers. I've seen locomotives similar to this in India and Sri Lanka, and love the low revving pulse of the engines. When was she built? My guess is about 1970, although I may be wrong ten years either way. Thanks for posting this, Tony, London UK
Thanks for your kind words. No. 2456 was built in October 1964 by Alco.
tony wolton all GVT power was built by American locomotive company between 1951 and 1965. The only none Alcos are a EMD GP9 from the DL&W and a 1935 EMC prototype loco also built for the DL&W.
Also from the UK, county Essex. I echo all that was said by tony. Great video, thoroughly enjoyeable.
"..sound like hair dryers." Haha. That's true.
What is the Loco pulling? Some kind of weight? Or something for the rails?
XxCleanUpBoyxX it's a bigger plow
So weird, is MA&N newish?? I was(am) a bit of a train kid growing up just outside one of the Portland,OR railyards, and as an 80's kid I already loved the Alco S's & RS's as they bellowed past me catchin' crawdads in Johnson Creek, but in all my 90's teen years of living in Lyons Falls/Port Leyden/Carthage/Philadelphia/Lowville/Theresa/Evans Mills/Etc.,NY the only Alcos I remember from then were a couple on Fort Drum wwwaaaayyy back when I volunteered at the old post gym to daytime lifeguard... . . . damn, I'm getting' old.
Hello & thanks for commenting. MA&N dates to the early 1990's. The railroad bought the 45-mile Utica-Lyons Falls, NY line back then too. Nowadays, the only freight customers (Bailey's Mill & 3B Timber) are located in Boonville, 35 miles north of Utica. The MA&N has been storing cars in the ten mile stretch of track between Boonville-Lyons Falls the past few years and will be doing so again this year. That's a good money-maker for the railroad. Regular freight moves to Boonville (apart from bringing cars north for storage) occur approx once every week to two weeks. A paper mill in Lyons Falls used to receive a goodly numberr of cars but that operation went under approx 10 years ago.
any photo of the snow blower actually blowing?
this'd be a fun line to ride a Speeder on
When they don't run of course
I noticed that this railroad has the same paint as the Delaware Lackawanna and Western Railway
Freedomtower Studios Genesee Valley Transportation operates this line, lowville Beaver river, falls railroad, Depew Lancaster and western, and “the” Delaware Lackawanna.
What a beautifully maintained old century series Alco! Thanks for the video! What's that white stuff he's pushing around? lol. We don't get a lot of snow in Dallas.
There's a steam plow rusting away here in Norwich NY
whats that thing its pulling behind it?
Wow cool! There's still snow up there? Is it cold? Today in northern NJ it was 70 and sunny haha!
Got up to 60 here today then temps plummeted by early afternoon.
I bet it's not going to stay 70 for long :P
BVERailer 21 degrees C
Do they use that snow plow/spreader much?
Nice horn she’s got in this vid, is that an old cast p5 I assume?, if it is it sure sounds nice!
what's that black rust bucket that it's always pulling along
Why didn't they run the plow in front of the engine
I wonder if he does driveways
Doesn't the snow plow go on the end that's pushing ?
What is that behind the locomotive?
Need to find a wye boys. Got to be one around there somewhere.
At the beginning of the vid (at 0:09) it says "59°". How can there be that much snow at 59° Fahrenheit or Celsius or whatever else? (Well... I guess it is not Kelvin!!!)
Another thing I find ...lets say "amusing" or "astonishing" is that the locomotive first opens the way though the snow ...for the snow plow!!!
that train logo's like kiss emoticon 😂😂 with the big lips 😂
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Somebody forgot to tell the crew that the plow goes in front of the engine.
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Why did they not put the snow plow forward and use it?
NOT WHY!
Outstanding!!!! How do I get paid to do this?