this is the best visualization you've done IMO. Having the track layout always present is a huge help to those trying to understand what course they are looking at straight away given you are presenting the visuals in angles not often seen. Perfect, no notes...except the above ;)
LOL. That's why F1 is the pioneer of motorsport. Highest speed, fastest laps, most powerful teams. A noob like you can't handle G-Forces so strong that you would probably black out, but these racers can handle it for nearly two hours.
Well it‘s also important to note that this years Spa quali in F1 was in damp conditions. They would‘ve been 3-4 secs faster on a completely dry track with rubber on it. Max‘s pole time last season was a 1:43.66 and this years pole time from Max a 46.1… The Ferrari would‘ve probably done a low 1:43 this year and Max probably a sub 43.
@jonasjonaitis8571 Yeah, no shit. That thing had no regs. If a current F1 car could lose as much weight as the teams would want and have no fuel flow/ engine mode restrictions then it would absolutely destroy the 919 EVO.
let's make a comparison between the cars... F1: ~ 1000hp - 789kg - hp per ton: 1250 ~ 750kg downforce @ 100mph - Tyres: 305mm front, 405mm rear - Tyre Life: around 100km are usually around the maximum for the soft tyres used in comparison - cost per year: 140.000.000€ Hypercar - 680hp (subject to BoP, but that's base power in the rules) - laptime here is with 692hp - 1030kg (subject to BoP, but that's the lowest weight in the rules) - laptime shown with 1040kg - hp per ton: 660 (laptime shown: 665) - 4:1 downforce to drag ratio ~ 650kg downforce @ 100mph (calculated weight) - Tyres: 300mm front, 310mm rear - Tyre Life: average stint would be around 170km, but tyres can hold over double and triple stints. - No tyre warmers - cost per year: 10.000.000€ conclusion: F1 has almost double the hp per ton far better tyres, way more downforce and costs around 14 times as much. Nothing surprising to see here And now that I have your attention: I can only suggest for everyone watching here to go ahead and watch a WEC race. The races are uploaded in full for free on the FIA WEC TH-cam channel a couple of weeks later, so even if you are unable to watch it live (due to it either not being broadcasted in your area or you're not willing to pay the 30$ WEC broadcast) you can catch up on them there.
For the one who is confused hypercar power is restricted to 700hp to 650 hp and the hybrid power will come after 190kmh ,it 's weight is also adjusted by bop like 1030 to 1080 kg if the power and hybrid of the 499p is not capped it will the cloqns car in dust
They are not so fast. LMP1 was faster than Hypercars. But for a car which cost around max 10 million comparing to the 150 million car it's amazingly fast.
possibly my favourite TH-cam acc ever. I'm such a damn nerd and I love the maths, splits and comparisons in the racing world etc. Thank you for all your work!
Great video and content! Please make sure the map orientation matches the direction of the cars, though. Like, when the cars turn right, they go right (not left) on the map.
really hoping we'll get to 2020 speeds again soon. even F1 itself has a "F1 for beginners - Everything you need to know about F1" animation video on their site since march where the cars hit 370 kmph. Can't remember the last time this speed has been achieved in a race. Feels like the cars are so slow and sluggish now.
I love the video! I will say that maybe using Spa data for the comparision is a bit unfair since Spa for the WEC car was much much much colder and really damp as well so the tyres had no windows to properly work I would love to see a Monza comparision coming the F1 round to the temple of speed.
ngl with you guys, sometimes f1 is so fast and perfect that i usually take it as a normal thing, from the pitstops (try the boblox f1 pitstop game to further understand my point), the car, the driver, etc. Now i've realized that its takes tons of hard works from everyone to make this sport reach the highest point of motorsport (maybe)
awesome to have this comparison. if i can add a bit of constructive criticism, the track is flipped compared to the real one and makes it a little confusing. still awesome video!
can you do this for 2015-2017 hybrid lmp1s too please? That would be amazing to see the difference, as the p1s were way faster than hypercars, thanks you
Curious with 2026 F1 rule changes, estimations of the ICE producing about 500-550hp, and an electric motor about 500hp, the numbers get awfully close to the same power, but probably about 75kg lighter than the LMP1 hybrids of 2015. For sure, F1 cars are going to slow down. They will still be faster than hypercar class, but would they still be much faster than the LMP1 hybrid golden era?
Can you please do Indycar vs F1 car. In indy500 this year, some top cars averaged 233+mph in the qualifying. In F1, most cars do their drs overtake around 310-350kph range. It would be awesome to see the comparison at least in a circuit that is not oval.
Indy car gets destroyed by F1 everywhere except ovals. F1 corners so much better and has much better acceleration. You’d need a track with massively long straights for the Indy car to catch up. Still would be overall slower lap times.
@@jonaskussama In fact I’m wrong. I was just wondering if the gap between f1 and wec would be smaller or different. A circuit with more straights like monza would be great 😄
@@Beau_Rivage You're right, I found this footage of it - th-cam.com/video/LW-Ps8onKUA/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=RalliTurkTV - but I couldn't find the lap time
@@LeSurfavecNicothe issue for WEC cars are corner speed, at Monza, for main straight F1 will be faster because F1 will be 80kph mor than WEC cars at the end of Parabolica so F1 start the « straight race » with big advantage.
There's a chance for us to see the gap differences in Qatar WEC next season compared to this F1 season on Qatar, considering the upgrade package for LMDh and LMH per year... (if BoP not messing it)
the brakes of an f1 car must be incredible. when you look at onboards from spa, the cars are a full throttle 100 metres before the chicane following the kemmel-straight and start breaking 75-50 metres before the turn
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Hypercar: only 23 hours 57 minutes to go. Lets see who breaks first
I'd love to see f1-like cars racing endurance
F1 engine is projected to last 2000 km more or less , so can run smoothly for 12 hour
just enjoy the comparison
@@iTecKnOIt would take a miracle for that car to run smoothly for 12 hours without considerably turning the engine down so temps are safe.
@@iTecKnObut not non-stop mate
this is the best visualization you've done IMO. Having the track layout always present is a huge help to those trying to understand what course they are looking at straight away given you are presenting the visuals in angles not often seen.
Perfect, no notes...except the above ;)
Glad you enjoyed the video! We have more to come :)
Only too bad that the cars are moving in the other direction 😂 Would be nice if they’re moving in the same direction
I agree, it was the only criticism I could think of in his other videos.
@@RoysIdea Or on a track that isn't mirrored.
It’s not perfect… the track map is completely incorrect. It’s mirrored. Spa is a clockwise track.
It's incredible how the SF23 is gaining time on the 499P basically everywhere on track.
LOL. That's why F1 is the pioneer of motorsport. Highest speed, fastest laps, most powerful teams. A noob like you can't handle G-Forces so strong that you would probably black out, but these racers can handle it for nearly two hours.
Well it has better tires, more downforce, more hp, and less weight
"It's incredible that the faster car is the faster car"
@@adamn7125and F1 is a lot larger
Well LMH is much slower than the old LMP1.
Why is the circuit image inverted?
It’s hard on the brain as a sim driver lol
I tried figuring out for a good minute what track that was supposed to be.
Ikr it took me ages to realise this was meant to be Spa
Why use the boring satellite view? Introducing the new center of earth view!
Well it‘s also important to note that this years Spa quali in F1 was in damp conditions. They would‘ve been 3-4 secs faster on a completely dry track with rubber on it. Max‘s pole time last season was a 1:43.66 and this years pole time from Max a 46.1… The Ferrari would‘ve probably done a low 1:43 this year and Max probably a sub 43.
@jonasjonaitis8571 Which is still slower than the Mercedes W11
@jonasjonaitis8571well if we are comlaring it to the best car F1 can put against it im pretty sure 2020 Mercendes will destroy it
@jonasjonaitis8571porsche evo would still be slower then 2020 Mercedes F1
@jonasjonaitis8571 Yeah, no shit. That thing had no regs.
If a current F1 car could lose as much weight as the teams would want and have no fuel flow/ engine mode restrictions then it would absolutely destroy the 919 EVO.
Don't forget Hyperclass did it in cold and damp conditions, that's even worse.
Would love to see this with the W11 and 919 Evo!
919 Evo ran a 1:41.7 around Spa
@@jackcharles8243and the W11 was 1.41.25 (according to google)
@@jackcharles8243Very impressive, but still slower than the W11, W09, and the Ferrari SF71H
@@jackcharles8243 And the W11 ran a 1:41.25
@@rockmoralesw10 also
let's make a comparison between the cars...
F1:
~ 1000hp
- 789kg
- hp per ton: 1250
~ 750kg downforce @ 100mph
- Tyres: 305mm front, 405mm rear
- Tyre Life: around 100km are usually around the maximum for the soft tyres used in comparison
- cost per year: 140.000.000€
Hypercar
- 680hp (subject to BoP, but that's base power in the rules) - laptime here is with 692hp
- 1030kg (subject to BoP, but that's the lowest weight in the rules) - laptime shown with 1040kg
- hp per ton: 660 (laptime shown: 665)
- 4:1 downforce to drag ratio
~ 650kg downforce @ 100mph (calculated weight)
- Tyres: 300mm front, 310mm rear
- Tyre Life: average stint would be around 170km, but tyres can hold over double and triple stints.
- No tyre warmers
- cost per year: 10.000.000€
conclusion:
F1 has almost double the hp per ton far better tyres, way more downforce and costs around 14 times as much.
Nothing surprising to see here
And now that I have your attention: I can only suggest for everyone watching here to go ahead and watch a WEC race. The races are uploaded in full for free on the FIA WEC TH-cam channel a couple of weeks later, so even if you are unable to watch it live (due to it either not being broadcasted in your area or you're not willing to pay the 30$ WEC broadcast) you can catch up on them there.
WEC is much better but most F1 fans just want to see the fastest cars race
Niga its not just about the horsepower clown
For the one who is confused hypercar power is restricted to 700hp to 650 hp and the hybrid power will come after 190kmh ,it 's weight is also adjusted by bop like 1030 to 1080 kg if the power and hybrid of the 499p is not capped it will the cloqns car in dust
it would still lose, even with 2000 Horsepower, cause it is then faster on the straight, but not on the turns
Wow, the Hypercar is so fast, it has to keep stopping to let the F1 car catch up! Amazing stuff.
The warp technology is so OP on the 499P
Tf
They are not so fast. LMP1 was faster than Hypercars. But for a car which cost around max 10 million comparing to the 150 million car it's amazingly fast.
r/ wooooosh
These videos are incredible, keep it up!
The map silhouette on the corner is best addition to your videos! Good job
possibly my favourite TH-cam acc ever. I'm such a damn nerd and I love the maths, splits and comparisons in the racing world etc. Thank you for all your work!
Great video and content! Please make sure the map orientation matches the direction of the cars, though. Like, when the cars turn right, they go right (not left) on the map.
And the fact that w11 went around 1:42 is even more insane
1:41
track was a bit damp in qualifying
2020 cars were much fater than todays
really hoping we'll get to 2020 speeds again soon.
even F1 itself has a "F1 for beginners - Everything you need to know about F1" animation video on their site since march where the cars hit 370 kmph. Can't remember the last time this speed has been achieved in a race. Feels like the cars are so slow and sluggish now.
@@frankhuurman3955the Alpines were hitting 340 on the kemmel straight on Sunday.
Isn't that like comparing Usain Bolt to a marathon runner ?
Yes but is a good demonstration of the difference
No, because the F1 car is not specifically designed for straight line speed, both cars are designed to lap a race circuit as fast as they can.
@@BeanOMaskren No, the comment is correct, the LMP1 cars have to drive for 24 hours whereas the F1 car does not.
My only complaint is your map of spa is reversed. Very entertaining video
I want to see a f1 season with no car limitations
It never ceases to amaze me how short an F1 car makes even the most challenging tracks look
The map track is inverted 😢
Thanks! Nice piece of data vis. Does the software allow for lateral forces display? Max vs everyone else has been fascinating. All the best
Why is the minimap reversed? It took me ages to realise this is meant to be Spa
Would have been good to see the comparison in the chicane, anyways great videos
Awesome content
A sprinter vs an endurance racer, awesome to see how little speed they actually gave up for crazy endurance
I love these videos
You should make a comparison between the slowest F1 cars in recent times (2014) to the fastest WEC cars like the Porsche 919 Hybrid
While I like the addition of the map, used to enjoy trying to figure out the track.
Great video as always.
Great!! Why opposite drive?
Do you have a motogp vs f1? Im just curious how this two compares. Great videos!
very solid content
I love the video! I will say that maybe using Spa data for the comparision is a bit unfair since Spa for the WEC car was much much much colder and really damp as well so the tyres had no windows to properly work I would love to see a Monza comparision coming the F1 round to the temple of speed.
Why was the mini-map a mirror image of the main track? When the car was turning right on the visualisation, it's turning left on the minimap...?
Fantastic! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Nice video, but is there a reason why you mirrored the track image in the upper right corner?
ngl with you guys, sometimes f1 is so fast and perfect that i usually take it as a normal thing, from the pitstops (try the boblox f1 pitstop game to further understand my point), the car, the driver, etc. Now i've realized that its takes tons of hard works from everyone to make this sport reach the highest point of motorsport (maybe)
The map being mirrored messed with my brain :p
I'm waiting for the Master Clock, and delta-time, instead of having to clocks showing the same time.
good video but why is the track map backwards
You either have the track outline mirrored, or the on-screen comparison... One makes a left turn, the other makes a right turn. 🏁
Love how you have the track image the wrong way around
Compare with lmp please
The route graph in the upper right corner is mirrored upside down
hey, love the videos. Would be nice if you could show which track it's at in the beginning of the video, small improvement. And, maybe the kph?
Can you do F2 vs Hypercar?
awesome to have this comparison. if i can add a bit of constructive criticism, the track is flipped compared to the real one and makes it a little confusing. still awesome video!
Awesome vid as usual, but am i the only one that noticed the map is backwards?
Some ideas: F1 vs Indy, F1 vs Formula-E
can you do this for 2015-2017 hybrid lmp1s too please? That would be amazing to see the difference, as the p1s were way faster than hypercars, thanks you
How do you get the precise data needed for this?
a eau rouge comparison would be sick to see
The track in the top right being inverted really triggers me lol
nice comparison and song name 😅?
could you overlay throttle and brake inputs onto the line?
I didnt expect the difference to be that large!
Can you do this with 499P and RB18?
Comparing w 919evo tribute would be interesting!
The track being mirrored completely f-ed me up...
Curious with 2026 F1 rule changes, estimations of the ICE producing about 500-550hp, and an electric motor about 500hp, the numbers get awfully close to the same power, but probably about 75kg lighter than the LMP1 hybrids of 2015. For sure, F1 cars are going to slow down. They will still be faster than hypercar class, but would they still be much faster than the LMP1 hybrid golden era?
They'll be much faster than LMP1
Spa goes clockwise.
curious to see the 499p without limitations
The Spa track map overlay is horizontally flipped.
I'd like to see F1 vs Formula E
My god the mirrored Spa in the corner confused the hell out of me
I'd like to see Hypercar vs F2
Yeah but let's see an F1 car go for 24 hours...
Can you do 919 Hybrid EVO vs RB19 on SPA ?
It's odd that the mini map is flipped
Why is the track map a mirror image of the real one?
Can you compare an lmp1, porsche for example ,with f1 or lmdh ?
Imagine an F1 Newey design with 0 restrictions though.
Remember that the hypercars in wec are limited by some rule like the F1 cars
What's the difference after 24hr of constant running full throttle? :D
Can you please do Indycar vs F1 car.
In indy500 this year, some top cars averaged 233+mph in the qualifying.
In F1, most cars do their drs overtake around 310-350kph range.
It would be awesome to see the comparison at least in a circuit that is not oval.
Indy car gets destroyed by F1 everywhere except ovals. F1 corners so much better and has much better acceleration. You’d need a track with massively long straights for the Indy car to catch up. Still would be overall slower lap times.
There is an on board comparison around COTA.
For some reason I pictured the 499P and WEC hypercars a lot larger than they actually are
It's should be small ehh? 5m long vs 5.5m long on F1...
Looking at SPA without the undulations is pretty weird.
Amazing video!
Obviously the F1 wins in a landslide, but honestly, for what it is, the Hypercar did pretty well imo!
Err.. Spa track layout is mirrored?
It's like the Ferrari F1 says, "Ah, you think you're a hypercar...how cute!"
To be honest, I thought the hypercar would put a tight fight during the straight. I was wrong.
The track map is inverted/mirrored
Can you please do this comparison at the circuit of La Sarthe? It will be great to see the top speed différence!!
Have any of the modern F1 cars completed a timed lap of La Sarthe recently?
@@jonaskussama In fact I’m wrong. I was just wondering if the gap between f1 and wec would be smaller or different. A circuit with more straights like monza would be great 😄
@@Beau_Rivage You're right, I found this footage of it - th-cam.com/video/LW-Ps8onKUA/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=RalliTurkTV - but I couldn't find the lap time
@@LeSurfavecNicothe issue for WEC cars are corner speed, at Monza, for main straight F1 will be faster because F1 will be 80kph mor than WEC cars at the end of Parabolica so F1 start the « straight race » with big advantage.
There's a chance for us to see the gap differences in Qatar WEC next season compared to this F1 season on Qatar, considering the upgrade package for LMDh and LMH per year... (if BoP not messing it)
why is the minimap mirrored?
i knew the gap was considerable but YEEESHHH
I like the mini map
track map is mirrored... have they always been like that? never noticed, but it's kind of bothering me lol
Is it possible to compare the Porsche 919 hybrid evo with Mercedes W11 in Spa (both record of the track at there times) pls ?
the main thing that's bugging me here is that the spa track map is flipped...
How the two racing line is the same? You have to use different racing lines with Hypercar due it has much bigger understeer.
i love your videos , but your beats are soooo hard , i wanna do a drive by
That's how the RedBull compares to other cars on the grid 😂
Why did you mirror the track layout?
Waiting for a comparaison with the 2018 Porsche 919 Evo
Good Shout!
can you do a motogp bike compared to a f1 car? like in austria or silverstone
Why is the minimap mirrored? lol
Why is Spa mirrored?
the brakes of an f1 car must be incredible. when you look at onboards from spa, the cars are a full throttle 100 metres before the chicane following the kemmel-straight and start breaking 75-50 metres before the turn
Look at Monza's Prima Variante then😂
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So this is how it feels to be racing against Verstappen.
Why is the map mirrored?
Can u compare to the old 1000hp hypercars too??
better yet compare old F1 cars to old LMP1 group C cars? surely comparing old vs new isnt the best comparison
@@friktionrc do all
@@King-Julz yup def agree 🤟😎
i wonder if they ever did try to in an enduro test race with an F1 car
Why is track map on the top right reversed?