Moog Minitaur in 2022 - My favorite four patches
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ย. 2022
- 🎹 The Moog Minitaur desktop bass synth is fantastic. Let’s go through four of my favorite patches for it.
---
Want to hang out with us synth nerds on Discord? We talk Berlin School, Prog Rock and A LOT around synthesizers (hardware and software.) Check out the Patreon page for access...it explains what you get and why the heck our Discord server is private.
Visit us at: / synthseeker
Hi! I'm Luke Stark and I'm creating videos here as Synth Seeker because I like to share the things I find fun or useful as I make music! Here you will find techniques, discoveries and distractions. Have fun!
If you like what you find here, please subscribe to the channel!
👉 th-cam.com/users/lukestark?s...
Most Recent Videos are found here:
🕑 / lukestark
My music:
⛺️ BandCamp: lukestark.bandcamp.com (releases)
🎸 Spotify: tinyurl.com/27xw7juh (releases)
🍎 Apple Music: tinyurl.com/spevewkp (releases)
☁️ Soundcloud: / lukestark (weird ideas and experiments)
Where else to find me:
🕷 Web: lukestark.com
📸 Instagram: / starkaudio
🧑 Facebook: / lukestarkmusic
🦤 Twitter: / lukestarkmusic
If you want to speak to me directly about opportunities, feedback or questions:
📧 info1 (at) lukestark.com
#synthseeker #synthesizer #Moog #Minitaur #progrock #synth #electronic - เพลง
Sounds great ! loved the demo and sounds
Thank you kindly!
Firing up the moog model D app as that’s what’s in my toolbox. Thanks for the inspiration. Nicely demonstrated.
The sprit of Bob is pleased. ;)
Definitely a deep sound, and it must be great to just dial it in with those handsome knobs. Great demo!
Thanks. Handsome knobs are KEY. :)
Damn, I said you wouldn't make me GAS, and there you are, making me GAS! Lovely demonstration of an amazing synth!
Sorry man, I’ve seen your rig…it’s getting tight!
an interesting liitle desktop synth...
thanks for demoing those patches Luke 👍
Just playin’ and sharing. ;)
@@synthseeker indeed 🙂
nice - thanks for the demonstration
Thanks for saying so!
Always thought it looked interesting and now I’m sure of it!
Glad I could distract you! ;)
Wow, that sounds so good! Definitely moving to the top of my wishlist.
What else is on your wishlist?
@@synthseeker An Arturia Minibrute 2s and a Novation Circuit Tracks, among many others. Got a Minitaur on the way, which is why I'm revisiting this video and just now seeing your comment! 🙂
@@scottnelle Man...Arturia, Novation, and Moog? What a great combo. You get the full modern controls of the Arturia, the simple sophistication and incredible sound quality of the Novation, then the sheer muscle that only an analog Moog can bring, and with no menu diving at all until you get the computer involved. I sure would love to see that trio in action...I think I might need one of those Novation units myself. They really seem kind of undermentioned.
@@jasonharrington7521 I have the Moog and the Novation now. Both are super cool! I'm on a short gear buying pause because I have so much to learn with the gear I have, but I'm still eying that Minibtute 2s and I almost bought one this month. The Circuit tracks is really fun but it's so different from my usual DAW based setup. I have a lot to learn!
@@scottnelle I just love how my Arturia Keystep can be the regular note-type controller for my Moog while also controlling the modulation rate of two guitar pedals so that they syncopate with both the modulation rate of the Moog and the arpeggio on the Arturia. I am really very amazed by what Arturia has done to make analog gear more copesetic with how modern gear flows...I can only imagine the Minibrute being equally as intuitive. But yeah, you sure are escaping the DAW if you add just about any Arturia to those two devices.
Great demonstration of the base nature of the Minitaur.
Thank you for the response!
Great! 😎👌🏼
Thanks! 👍
Killer!
Thank you Joe. ;)
That bass is a punchy and to the point. Those envelopes trim that bass tone like a fine meat.
Gorgeous 😍
Glad you liked it.
@@synthseeker Its awesome, I've also been watching your New minimoog 2022 reissue vids aswell.
Thanks! I hope you find more things you enjoy/can use in my back catalog!
Lov it ,,Got my attention ,, Subbed ,,Cheers!;-)!!
Thanks for the sub! Have fun!
Big Bass Balls!!
Agreed. “Pant-flap!”
Pant flap is a hell of a term. Very nice.
It’s fun to say too. :)
I love me some pant flap. I like the "cut the fluff - get right to it" attitude, it really is nice for informative videos.
If anyone interested in such a mono synth but does not want to pay 500 to 1k for a sirin or Minitaur, the Dreadbox Typhon is also a fantastic alternative
I do not disagree. ;)
Thanks mate
I was checking out the specravox, I’m going to get one just for the pluck ability!
Nice! Have fun! Share a video when you get it pluckin’!
it would be amazing if you could do a short video on how you were setup w/ ableton and the minitaur, and able to control the synth w/ Push2. Very cool! thanks for sharing, and I just subscribed @synthseeker
I did a 60 second video on it earlier this week but I can try to elaborate. :)
Welcome to the channel!
@@synthseeker thx!
@@synthseeker is there a link to that 60 sec video?
@@matturmy I'm not sure how useful it is but here you go. I kind of did it as a joke. th-cam.com/video/IDMTcMUdhmw/w-d-xo.html
Wow, that sounds amazing! Another alternative for a 2 osc analog bass synth that I like to use is the DSI MOPHO.
But this one used three oscillators…however you should do what makes you happy.
@js-wl3wiYep! The feedback is the secret sauce that takes it beyond the P8 and Rev2 sound palette too. Then the Tetra is just nuts!
Hi! Amazing sounds! I really like the last one. What are the main elements to duplicate it, playing with LFOs?
Osc1 is a sawtooth, Osc2 is in sync mode and the lfo is in random mode. The lfo is modulating both the filter frequency and Osc2 pitch. Then you can play around with the filter resonance. :)
@@synthseeker thank you!!
Really like this vid. Can you tell me what that thing is you’re controlling the Minitaur is? Awesome video. Thanks
That is as grid controller. Specifically an Ableton Push 2.
Ahh so far I’ve been trying to stay DAW but don’t know how long I be able to hold out. thanks for the answer. Looking forward to your next vids
Sold!
I wish I made a commission. :)
Kinda makes me want a Minitaur.
Let me know if you publish anything using it, I’ll be happy to listen. :)
Hey man, these are awesome! I'd love to get my hands on these patches if you have them? I've got the roland pluck but would love the other three. Regards a patreon member! :)
Are you on the Discord? If so I'll post them there. :) If not I'll figure something out.
@@synthseeker I'm not on discord actually, never used it.
@@reubenrussi6210 I'll try to gather them and post them to Patreon.
@@synthseeker Awesome thank you!
Do you have a quick link to the video on how to make the "Roland pluck" sound? You make reference to blending a square wave and saw tooth around the 210 minute mark. Thanks!
Here you go. th-cam.com/video/iODJSILCP7U/w-d-xo.html
@@synthseeker thanks! Any chance you’ve got a video or a diagram showing the Minitaur settings for all the patches in this video? Is that a dumb question?
@@brenthickman7935 There is a link to a patch file (sysex) in the comments somewhere. But no diagrams...sorry. Go explore! You can figure it I'm sure.
Where can we find how to make the patches? They are lovely
If you read the comments, there is a thread where I like to one of the patch files...but the rest, you can explore the factory presets to find them, or things very close to them. I strongly advocate exploring the Minitaur, it's a great learning synth! If a lot of people ask, I can do some detailed patch breakdowns.
that first 'roland pluck' sound of yours is awesome, could you please share the patch settings? is the position of the knobs in the video representing the patch?
www.lukestark.com/minitaur/Roland%20Bass%20Pluc.syx
Here’s the patch file, you should be able to use the Minitaur editor to load it. :)
@@synthseeker Thanks so much! however, when I load it in the editor, i get an init sound... sure everythings ok or am I doing something wrong?
It might a firmware thing. I’ll check it tonight and re upload.
@@synthseeker thanksss let me know :)
i've been looking for the tutorial video you referenced on how to create the Roland Pluck bass synth sound :) could you post the link?
Here you go! Berlin School and Synthwave Pulsing Basslines Made Easy
th-cam.com/video/nSpfFAH7S_w/w-d-xo.html
@@synthseeker hawt damn thanks.
@@synthseeker this is more about the sequencer than how to program the sound?
It’s about sequencing but I posted a reply to you a minute ago on the Minitaur video with that bass patch. :)
So stupid, can't remember why I returned Sirin :) Mighty synth with hefty sounds. Especially cool VST for automations!
Agreed. I wish I had one!
Already have a Grandmother❤ but would love a Minitaur for dedicated bass.
They are nice, but you can also use software versions! I haven't tried the latest vst bass synth from moog but friends claim it's very good. Cost effective!
Ok - twist my arm. I’ve wanted a real Moog for years - this will be my first! Size limitations abound in my massive pile of gear, and this will fit right in.
Will be fun to pair with my Prophet 12 desktop.
Have fun with it! It should be a lot of fun with that P12! I would love one but haven’t yet decided if I need a DSI/Sequential synth. It’s a gap in my collection for sure.
Keep in mind, this can only do pitches up to middle c and nothing above.
This is true.
Can you control the 2 oscillators’ pitch separately with MIDI to make 2 note chords? e.g. sending midi cc from a sequencer
Yes! See page 22 of the manual (midi implementation chart.)
Hmmm, there is some clipping throughout...not sure where it crept in. Sorry gang. :(
Thanks for this great video. I would be interested to see / listen to a comparison Moog Minitaur / Novation Bass Station II / Behringer TD-3-MO-AM Analog Bass Line
Thanks for watching! Those three synths are very different, I’m not sure. Even the filters alone are totally different sounding.
@@synthseeker Thanks for your answer, I have a Novation BS 2, you mean getting a Minitaur and a TD-3-Mo in addition, would not be redundant
Correct. They have very different sounds.
@@synthseeker then now the newer question, what about the Behringer Toro $250 ?
I m asking all this because it's soon my birthday, I was born on the very same day of Jamaica independance...but I'm older 😞
Nice video, what's the piece of gear you're using to arpeggiate the Minitaur?
It’s software actually, it’s the arpeggiator that comes with Ableton live. ;)
@@synthseeker Thx, so that's just a controller for Ableton Live. I'm on Pro Tools not sure you can do that..
Im sure you can probably find software-based arp packages for PT. :)
@@synthseeker for sure will look into it! Minitaur’s been on my wish list for a while..
Hello @synthseeker I just bumped into this today, do you have a jpeg, or the sus ex for this patches?
I just have one: www.lukestark.com/minitaur/Roland%20Bass%20Pluc.syx
@@synthseeker 1 is more than enough so I can practice on my Minitaur, and I use live 11 as well, been watching your videos, you have a new suscríbele. Thank you
Long shot here : what the chance you can share the chain you are usingon the push as an effect rack / group , including your midi harp rhytmic arrpegiator
Hi there. The chain was really simple: Ableton arpeggiator device -> External instrument device (Minitaur) -> Ableton chorus -> Ableton Delay device -> Ableton Reverb. The Arpegiator is playing 8th notes using an "Up" pattern and the delay (when engaged) is set to sync at dotted-8th notes. Sometimes I have the arp play 1 or two extra octaves (in the Roland Pluck part for example.) :) If you tell me which version of Live you are using I can try and share a preset device group. But it's really really simple here.
In on live 11
Would love to get your preset actually . One tip using “external instrument “ device adds latancy to the whollle session so u know it much better to just use it as an input audio interface
@@TheTomallon - Well here's a link to a Ableton Device Group from Live 11 that is basically what I used for the Minitaur. www.lukestark.com/minitaur/Basic%20Minitaru%20Effects%20Chain.adg.zip
re: latency - I have a rant about that actually found here (don't watch the whole thing as it's more about ADAT routing, but the rant might be entertaining.) :th-cam.com/video/HHQnHxPxuus/w-d-xo.html
Have fun!
@@synthseeker thanks mate :) appriciate it
Can u share about the arpegiator ? Is it a basic ableton one ?
Yes, that is the Ableton arp...I find that it's a very good arpeggiator, and the arp has added a number of new features in Live 12. I would check it out when it gets released later this year! :)
Really great sound .... but, could you show the postion of knobs and setup ... would be really helpfully to get it 🙏🙏🙏🤝😘 ... maybe for first Patch f.e. please
Sorry, I'll fix the camera angle for future videos if I can. As the the first patch - you can have the patch file and load it using the Minitaur editor. You can download the patch from here: www.lukestark.com/minitaur/Roland%20Bass%20Pluc.syx
@@synthseeker 😀🤝🤝🤝🤝
Thank you!
El tauro esta conectado en el teclado midi?.. y este directo a la computadora?. O cual es la ruta?
Un controlador de red está conectado a la computadora (Ableton Live) y el Taurus está conectado a la computadora. MIDI fluye desde la grilla a Ableton al Taurus.
+1 for "Pant Flap"
“WOOMF!”
For that coveted deep moog sound, this might actually be more precise? Than a sub phatty? Although, for a more "Avant garde" bass, the sub is a good option. I'm a bit more partial to the minitaur though. I'm coming at it from the perspective of a, industrial artist though.
Well, there are several “Moog sounds” and the Taurus bass is one of them. :)
@@synthseeker yea, like using a wah with a fat bass setting. Flanger, ping-pong delay & maybe a phaser is kind of like that crazy hoover sound that gives everyone either the chills or instant inertia. You got to admit though, the minitaur sounds idek, "heavier", "Beefier" "meaty" compared to the sub phatty imo. It'd be a plunge if I didn't need it, buuuuuut I'll probably buy one tbh.
They are definitely four distinct families. Taurus, Mini, Phatty, Mother.
great: essentials
It’s definitely one of my favorites.
What is the groove box control surface your using?
That is an Ableton Push control surface. :)
Call me an idiot, but how do you know what note you're playing on that pad surface
It’s laid out kind of like an 8 stringed guitar with 7 frets. Also the root notes and in-key notes are color-coded. I did a video explaining grid controllers here if interested. :) th-cam.com/video/aAqO-rwksLw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=RgSaTO2FiP_RaOEp
@@synthseeker that does make sense now. Thanks for the reply and great content!
hey idk how u acheived this settings, can u help me out. With the roladn pluck one
www.lukestark.com/minitaur/Roland%20Bass%20Pluc.syx
You can download that patch file and load it using the Minitaur editor plugin. ;)
@@synthseeker oh hell ya, you a real one. Thanks dude
Is the push 2 good for sequencing external hardware
The Push 2 requires Ableton Live and provides a control surface for it. In that regard, Live is the sequencer and it is very capable with both hardware and software as a sequencer. I sequence everything through live and the push.
@@synthseeker yes I use Ableton and just got a push and using external instrument seeing how push will tie in to control multiple hardware inside Ableton , minitaur being one . Will push be enough or need sl MK3 or keystep pro ? So many things out there
It depends on your workflow. Push can be enough but it’s up to you.
Are both the Minitaur and Push connected to your DAW and you're controlling this all from your DAW?
Yes. The Push is used as a master controller. The DAW (Ableton Live) routes midi from the push to all the synths. :)
@@synthseeker Awesome! Thanks for the reply
u use moog and the other one that you control the moog what is the name of it?
That is as an Ableton Push. :)
Can you control the filter with a foot pedal?
Directly, no…There is no expression input but there is filter frequency CV input. And you can control it via midi CCs.
@@synthseeker uh oh!
Great sounds! Any similarities to SE02?
The filter is probably the only thing that is similar to the SEO2. The SEO2 is modeled after the minimoog, while this is a mini Taurus pedal synth (without the pedals.)
The synth architectures are bit different but I do like the SEO2 very much…if you can deal with the tiny controls, but the SEO2 has a lot more features as well.
Are you trying to decide between them?
@@synthseeker Yes and thanks for the reply. I've been searching SE02 vs Minitaur (which is how I found your video). Minitaur sounds amazing but the limited range is why I'm looking at other options for bass and lead sounds. The tiny knobs are really small in real life!
What is the other piece of gear that’s not the Minotaur?
That is an Ableton Push, which is a MIDI controller.
"Pant flap" I wonder who came up with that one?
For me? My dad.
That's a belfast expression.
So its a moog geared only to focus on what moog is best at?
I dunno, what would you say they are best at? :)
@@synthseeker bass
They do those well, especially the Taurus family but other Moogs do leads and other timbres too! :) Use it how you like it.
you should show the position of the knobs. didn't watch it now.
There are some presets files linked in the comments. :)
Toby Flendersen , is that you?
I have never been to Scranton. ;)
@@synthseeker :)
Jonathan bree Tool
I don't know who that is but I'll go look for him?
It sounds very very good BUT... you don't give any precise information on the adjustments of your sound and the use with the Ableton (Live ?) and the Push interface ... too bad ...
Well, I have a number of videos about integrating hardware synths with live. What would you like to know specifically? :)
Don't talk so much please - let the device do the talking!
Well that’s a pretty old video and unfortunately I’m going to disappoint you because history would indicate that I continued to talk a LOT. ;)
@@synthseeker Oh well...
Does this have more bass-centric variety than a sub25, or can the sub25 make any bass sounds that the minitaur can make?
You aren’t the first to ask, I should think on it.
I own both. The 25 has more range and can be overdriven with the mixer, feedback, and the post-filter FET. The FET is amazing and can give you tube-like saturation.
They sound very different.
The Bull sounds smoother than either the 25 or the 37, and the square wave has a very different sound than the 25 or 37.
If you need only big bass, get the Bull.
If you want a more flexible synth with less menu-diving, get the 25. The 25 does solid bass and has a more diverse sound palette, but the Bull is magnificent for what it does-it’s just limited.
What the Bull does, it does well in the extreme.