Silent Hill - Book of Memories: SH Retrospective

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  • @eldridgecharles1313
    @eldridgecharles1313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +386

    Watching Silent Hill go downhill feels like raising a kid only for them to get into a bad crowd, become a criminal and finally joining the Jersey Shore crew

    • @Zelix678
      @Zelix678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      And then straight to TMZ

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      HAAAAAAAA! Holy shit this is accurate!

    • @Lazrael32
      @Lazrael32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      no one will ever, more accurately describe this.

    • @HUNKxTofu
      @HUNKxTofu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes.

    • @johnr4836
      @johnr4836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AvalancheReviews tmz wrote an article about you speculating on your upload absence it was a hard hitting piece

  • @wettoaster.
    @wettoaster. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    Why didn't they make the main character Pyramid Head? It would make the hack and slash gameplay more 'believable' in the SH universe, and it would be a nice little blast of nostalgic catharsis

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      That's......not a bad idea!

    • @wettoaster.
      @wettoaster. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AvalancheReviews Thanks man! Great video, as always. I think I'll skip this one

    • @mysouptoocold1656
      @mysouptoocold1656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ph isn't it's own monster but I see it being better than this and downpour

    • @MoccaDeShibe
      @MoccaDeShibe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You could kinda do this with the dead by daylight silent hill dlc ahaha

  • @JustforKikX
    @JustforKikX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    This is literally Silent Hill: Diablo edition.......

    • @greenhowie
      @greenhowie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      *Diablo Immortal edition

    • @jjenk911
      @jjenk911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Indeed. The developers fucked up the Diablo aesthetic.

    • @samtepal3892
      @samtepal3892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Diablo : We hate free speech edition. Oh wait that leagues of legends.

    • @deadchanneldontwatch7347
      @deadchanneldontwatch7347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      *do you guys not have phones?*

    • @Shervin86
      @Shervin86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's a new insult to Diablo! 🤭

  • @michaelangeloreina4033
    @michaelangeloreina4033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    I worked on this game 9 years ago, I am surprised to see a review come out this recently. I enjoyed my time working that gig.

    • @LeetTron5000
      @LeetTron5000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lol epic if this is true. I didn't know it existed until now and I'm not agreeing with what I'm hearing. Looks like an enjoyable spinoff that accomplished what was asked. The expectations were just too specific, its fine the way it is.

    • @Halomcr
      @Halomcr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      so are there higher tier weapons? and loot in the game like if its gonna be like diablo. there has to be loot

    • @michaelangeloreina4033
      @michaelangeloreina4033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Halomcr You can play Piramid head's sword for example, and a couple of other weapons, strong weapons from the series. I can't remember now if they were on a DLC though. But I remember making animations for for several higher tier weapons.

    • @ShantiDoss2000
      @ShantiDoss2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is this a phone game.

    • @Swagmite
      @Swagmite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you really a dev ?

  • @SinderSoyl
    @SinderSoyl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I would disagree on the fact that having a hack n' slash set in the Silent Hill universe is a great thing. It doesn't come from being a purist or anything, simply that since Silent Hill is a horror franchise, having those monsters be hacked by the dozen lessens their impact as terrifying creatures in their respective games, in my opinion.
    In Silent Hill, each encounter is supposed to feel a bit tense, with monsters being manageable one on one once you get a hold of the clunky combat mechanics, but additional monsters, even one, can make things go south real fast. But this tension may be partly negatively affected when in Book of Memories, you can just swing a gigantic sword a few times and kill 5 of them at once.
    Perhaps this is the kind of thing that doesn't affect everybody the same, but I absolutely think that this feeling of "the monsters are just pieces of meat for me to grind" can carry over.
    I would argue that there's quite a few genres that the Silent Hill franchise should avoid getting close to, in order to retain its effectivness as a horror series.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I think there's an inherent horror in some dungeon crawlers, and the SH monsters play into cool stuff like elemental alignments and different gameplay approaches pretty well. I agree the series tension isn't there when you're slicing through hundreds of bubble head nurses, but since this game is a spin off, it's under no obligation to have that same tension. Just seeing these characters and creatures in a different light/setting is pretty cool in my eyes. If it were a mainline entry in the series, you would be totally right, but spin offs are where a series gets to experiment and have fun. I like that.

    • @milenarkioshi4288
      @milenarkioshi4288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In Silent Hill Origins, the amount of kills you get by the end of the game would help you in getting one of their endings.
      The game had many melee, thrown, firearms weapons to use, and with a durability system as well.
      Spoilers:
      What if the hack n slash aspect of the game, would be from the perspective of the villain, Walter from SH 4, or like, I think Vicent (might be wrong of the name), the guy from Silent Hill 3 tells Heather "you see them like monsters ?" As a sick joke.
      It could be pulled. But like anything, would require passion with the project, understanding of it's lore, and people with talent for story writting, telling, game play mechanics and yada yada.
      Like one of those many cases where fans and modding community makes the game run or play like it should by the Company who rushed a release or port of a game.
      *Edit some spelling

    • @RexVergstrong
      @RexVergstrong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's just a side game. Awful as it is, but it doesn't have to follow the exact same ruleset. People don't understand that.

    • @Xxsorafan
      @Xxsorafan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea I remember being interested in the game but after playing realized it wasn’t scary in the slightest and stopped

    • @tiamod
      @tiamod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think literally any main SH game other than Shattered Memories could qualify as a hack n slash. Or more like a “Smash n’ Bash”.
      I’ve been playing SH2 on Normal for the first time in years (on PSNOW) , and honestly, these poor monsters haven’t stood a chance against me thus far. Easily outrunned, easily dodged, and then I just merciless beat the crap outta them with a wooden plank. I get this game is supposed to be scary and stuff, but SH2 is pretty much a Smash n’ Bash with not so great animation and tank controls.
      Not dissing the game by any means. And I’ve probably become desensitized to the monsters + aged mechanics, even though being in the apartments still makes me feel unnerved... but when it comes down to it, you can either run or fight... but at least in SH Homecoming, I feel far more threatened and unnerved by the monsters because they aren’t nearly as easy to deal with.
      I think you can have a scary game be filled with action. All the SH games other than SM has lots of it including 1-3... even if it’s just one swing animation over and over.

  • @OSW
    @OSW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Thanks for taking a bullet for us Jared! Painful to see SH treated this way, trotted out for whatever money-squeezing idea Konami have, franchise suitability be damned. Not quite as depressing as "SH: the gambling machine", but it's down there

    • @mondelsson
      @mondelsson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Are you telling me that team silent would disapprove of a pachinko machine based on the IP?
      /s

    • @venomsnakessidepiece
      @venomsnakessidepiece 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it’s actually a good game

  • @thesynthscreamcollective
    @thesynthscreamcollective 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Fun fact about the games development history: The studio wanted to release the games both on current gen consoles and on the vita.. the fighting would still be like a standard dungeon crawler...but the exploration parts and puzzle solving would be made in third person view..using a flashlight.. but sadly.. konami wanted the game to use the vitas features, and it all went downhill from there
    And to be quite frank.. if only Bluepoint Games and Armature Studio were responcible for porting SH2 and 3 to the PS3, we would also have them on the vita instead of this, they did an amazing job with MGS HD on the PS3, and its such a shame we never got these two games on the home console and on a portable console, since i bet my ass that the vita could handle all 4 silent hill games on the go if in the right hands

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yep you're absolutely right. If they had done the hd collection, the series might be in a totally different place right now.

    • @thesynthscreamcollective
      @thesynthscreamcollective 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AvalancheReviews we can only keep dreaming buddy...

    • @monkeybone1080
      @monkeybone1080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Actually that's a popular misconception. The ports of MGS2 and 3 are lacking effects and other details as they just couldn't be re-created due to hardware quirks. So for example the rain effects on everything like dripping off soldiers are missing. So while they run well, they have their own issues.

    • @nikodemvankenobi
      @nikodemvankenobi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@monkeybone1080 Yeah, but, at the same time, they're full-fledged MGS games, on a handheld, and at the time, it was pretty impressive, don't know about you, but I can excuse the nuances.

    • @monkeybone1080
      @monkeybone1080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nikodemvankenobi I wasn't talking about the handheld versions.

  • @happy5642642
    @happy5642642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The devs who had to make a multi-player silent hill game requested by Konami be like: Bruh

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The bruh heard round the world

    • @Thebossstage1
      @Thebossstage1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha, imagine trying to convince someone to purchase this game to play with you.

  • @DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson
    @DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Brother, I needed some more Jared in my life, I got smashed in my work truck on Monday. Thanks for doing what you, my favorite Cuban viking.

    • @mgrah3723
      @mgrah3723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hope your feeling okay

    • @DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson
      @DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mgrah3723 I have a headache and a concussion, but i feel fine, otherwise, thanks!

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Damn!!! That sucks! I got smashed in Miami. Dude tboned me going 60. I know that shitty feeling. Feel better man.

    • @DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson
      @DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AvalancheReviews these guys were going 60 or 65. I appreciate the kind words and I'm sorry that happened to you. Keep up the great work, my man!

    • @Genasidal
      @Genasidal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson hope you're feeling much better now brother! Stay safe out there

  • @LazAnnya
    @LazAnnya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    just got silent hill: shattered memories for the ps2 today, great time for an upload

  • @catsthelimit763
    @catsthelimit763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Yes! Notification pops up and everything in my life is dropped for 30 minutes. Thank you for making my morning!

  • @justemily4340
    @justemily4340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    @Avalanche Reviews: There is an audio loop in your video from 12:46 to around 13:10 in which you talk about the approach of Way Forward to the puzzles in the game. I believe it is the same sentence, but ending with different words.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah, I must have left the first take in the recording. By the time I noticed it, it was like 5 in the morning, so now I'm going to act like it's some kind of purposeful attempt at humor. HA!

    • @Genasidal
      @Genasidal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Omg I never noticed until you mentioned that haha

  • @FICTiVETRUiSM
    @FICTiVETRUiSM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a nice thorough look at this game. I've enjoyed all your Silent Hill videos so far, thank you for covering one of my favorite franchises!

  • @toastydanny9136
    @toastydanny9136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love Silent Hill and I love RPG dungeon games. It doesn't mean that they combined together lol.
    Great review there Avalanche!

  • @chrisr529
    @chrisr529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    And I used to be stressed this is the only sh game I don't have ..now I know

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're definitely better off not having it

  • @Genasidal
    @Genasidal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always love watching some late night Avalanche Reviews! Great stuff as always brother!!!

  • @killerghostmonkey
    @killerghostmonkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This looks like exactly the game I've been looking for... when I want to play a Diablo clone. It's a shame knowing that it fails to satisfy that extremely specific cross genre itch of blending SH aesthetic and world building with rogulike mechanics. One of my favorite experiences of the original SH was when, towards the end of the game, you couldn't be sure what environment you'd arrive in when you passed through a door- that type of scenario could lend itself well to a roguelike. Remnant from the Ashes shows that a horror rogulike can be a fun experience. This looks like a modded version of Kingdom Hearts

  • @StrawHatGuy_
    @StrawHatGuy_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm obsessed with all things Silent Hill. I'm looking forward to your future videos!

  • @BBmetalhead04
    @BBmetalhead04 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I kind of want to see Wayforward get another shot at SH, but with more creative freedom that plays into there strengths. Maybe a retro-remake of the first game that would play like a 2D Metroid-vania. Call it “Silent Hill: Demastered”.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Now that sounds like a killer idea! I'd love to see something like that!

  • @HaohmaruHL
    @HaohmaruHL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm glad wayforward found their passion with colorful platformers. I'm surprised THIS alone didn't spiral their whole studio into obscurity

  • @Fuketsu.
    @Fuketsu. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for recapping this, not many people gave it attention which sucks because i really love to watch retrospectives of anything related to silent hill😂

  • @robertsmith7627
    @robertsmith7627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Based on my experience with this game I'm going to guess this isn't going to go well. Woooo! Exactly what I needed to wake up to =)

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      A nice dumpster fire to wake up to

    • @Drax69420
      @Drax69420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      By "experience with the game" do you mean working on the game or just playing it?

    • @robertsmith7627
      @robertsmith7627 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Drax69420 playing

    • @Drax69420
      @Drax69420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertsmith7627 ah. Honestly, kinda wish I could heard from someone at wayforward about what working on the game was like.

  • @callumgilchrist
    @callumgilchrist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Came for SH,stayed for the excellent video capture analysis. Nice work as always Jared 👌🏻

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you man! Glad to see people appreciate that. I get so interested in those technical details, and sometimes it feels like I'm putting people to sleep with all that stuff.

  • @paynexkiller
    @paynexkiller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great review bro. Keep em coming.

  • @devi403
    @devi403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You damn hero, I was looking forward to this!

  • @fconstraints
    @fconstraints 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man, thanks for the new video. Been looking forward to more Avalanche Reviews.

  • @jakfan09
    @jakfan09 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Literally just started replaying Silent Hill 1 yesterday and this pops up into my recommended.

  • @chickenmcjigglets2904
    @chickenmcjigglets2904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Avalanche posts a video, I watch, I like, it’s a simple process.
    Thanks man, great vid!

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's my responsibility to keep that simple process going. HA!

  • @venomsnakessidepiece
    @venomsnakessidepiece 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this game because it has so much SH lore in it

  • @Exmachinagamma
    @Exmachinagamma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    On the one hand, being able to wield Pyramid Head's Great Knife 🔪 effortlessly, whereas both he and James struggled to swing that bad boy is a sight! I took great pains to find and keep it😄
    However, finding the connecting story as to why you had this book and your character's involvement in Silent Hill did seem to be lacking. It has the Diablo-style gameplay that is refreshing. I don't know it's a game with Silent Hill elements your mileage will vary😅

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I'm down with an SH diablo clone. I feel like with a more talented team behind it, it could have been awesome.

  • @SabbyNeko
    @SabbyNeko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know it would get old really quick, but just watching this footage, the melee attacks have some decent feedback. Smacking monsters looks pretty satisfying.

  • @Rorschach1195
    @Rorschach1195 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video and i appreciate you covering these more obscure games I have no interest in playing myself, thanks Jared.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure. I play em so you don't have to!

  • @GameDevMadeEasy
    @GameDevMadeEasy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been waiting for this one!

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Our paths were bound to cross one day. Today is that day.

  • @Octoboobs
    @Octoboobs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Book of Memories feels like Rob Zombie version of Silent Hill (no disrespect to RZ, I find his movies really fun but I can see some overlaping themes).

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ya know, I think I see exactly what you're talking about.

  • @mcrarburger
    @mcrarburger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You said the "distillation" line twice (12:45 and 12:59)
    Regardless, great video as always!! I always had a vita and was interested in getting this game. This video makes me glad I passed on it

  • @christopherthomas2808
    @christopherthomas2808 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never knew about this game great video. Also this kinda reminds me of hunter the reckoning

  • @E_Sunbro
    @E_Sunbro 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "At the start of BM *chuckle*"
    I fucking lost it lol

  • @pancakes7294
    @pancakes7294 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    to be fair, at 3:47 Silent Hill has used the postal service to give Jams Mary's letter

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I thought it was confirmed that the letter never actually existed.

  • @S_B-
    @S_B- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best thing to come out of this game is Mary McGlynn's rendition of 'Love Psalm'.

  • @Gwynhyvr
    @Gwynhyvr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this feels like an idea that could have worked with less restrictions from the higher ups. there's parts of a really good game in here, by look of it.

  • @Andriej69
    @Andriej69 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It really takes serious dedication to even touch this shit with your actual hands, I am truly impressed by the sheer amount of effort. So I'm guessing one of the titles left will be Silent Hills/P.T, but I'm not sure about the other. You can't possibly be talking about PACHINKO MACHINE, can you?!

  • @WhitePhoenix22
    @WhitePhoenix22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    SH3 being my fav, I actually didn’t know this existed but would love to play this.. not for the story but the different feel of SH. By the looks of it the big weapons with sfx kills the vibe. Could be darker and only light is your flashlight to make it scarier, also less enemies and cutscene when encountering a new one, scarce ammo that makes fights easy from afar and melee weapons being dreadful and a feel of danger when near enemies?

  • @robertfullchim923
    @robertfullchim923 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your chuckle at saying BM is great.

  • @NikoLetsGoBowling1
    @NikoLetsGoBowling1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your retrospectives. Watched all of your resident evil and dino crisis ones and currently working my way through silent hill. That being said, dead space retrospective?

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll just say this, keep an eye out at the end of the next few videos. You might like what you see.

  • @Shinigami41395
    @Shinigami41395 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought I knew about all of the Silent Hill games. After watching this video, I now completely understand why I had never heard of this game.

  • @brandongrey9240
    @brandongrey9240 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just in time when I felt like I’ve watched all the good sh videos

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well the word "good" is a relative term. HA1

  • @BabyArms
    @BabyArms 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:20 Fantastic

  • @youseftaha8539
    @youseftaha8539 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg how many silent hill games are out there!

  • @GamingZoom
    @GamingZoom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really hope that next gen brings us a new silent hill I have seen some leaks but of course we don’t know for sure

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't know........ I would be ok with the franchise being dead. Stories all have to end, and if you ask me, this one ended with SH3. So I'm ok with no more SH games coming out. Maybe devs can that drive and energy, and put it towards a new horror IP.

  • @Trespasser2003
    @Trespasser2003 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m half surprised they didn’t try to somehow shoehorn Howard into the SH HD Collection. He brought James the letter!

  • @caaltaes732
    @caaltaes732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jared now you're contractually obligated to review the Silent Hill Comics 🤣

    • @oliviawilliams6204
      @oliviawilliams6204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Caal Taes oh boy he would be in for a ride, there’s good one.... and there’s all the other one...

  • @marbles8641
    @marbles8641 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The mailman was supposed to be an entity of Silent Hill.
    He was supposed to be featured in all games and media going forward but the series all but died.

  • @toratio8547
    @toratio8547 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is anyone else imagining Howard running around Silent Hill with a fake moustache pretending to run all the shops and deliver the mail and serve at the cafe?

  • @romelsoyza4160
    @romelsoyza4160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I was expecting another RE movie or the Dead Space review, but i will take anything you put out 😎👍

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Those words will haunt you one day. I'm sure of it. HA!

    • @WinterSoldierLTE
      @WinterSoldierLTE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'd love a Dead Space series. Such a shame there were only 4. The PS4 would've benefited so much from that series.

    • @Genasidal
      @Genasidal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WinterSoldierLTE rip visceral

    • @WinterSoldierLTE
      @WinterSoldierLTE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Genasidal Absolutely. That studio and the people that worked there were done dirty by EA. That shit was low.

    • @Genasidal
      @Genasidal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WinterSoldierLTE if you haven't ever, there is a video detailing the OG concepts for dead space 3. Barely any of them made it in bc EAs looming presence. Dead Space 2 wasn't affected no where near as much in terms of changes but additions that visceral thought unnecessary were added too. Most of these were bland or just hated by the community. EA ruined them HARD

  • @Raven-fr3ki
    @Raven-fr3ki 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Avalanche reviews, you covered both survivor games, are you planning on covering outbreak? Files one and two, it's like a healthy blend of classic fixed angles and modern style play with a real time inventory that doesn't pause the game, and severely limited space no more than 4 items at a time * barring you play as yoko who has double space, the games are amazing I picked them out of a bargain bin in like 2008 and I don't think enough folks have seen it yet

  • @Dead-Pool3_II_Sij6
    @Dead-Pool3_II_Sij6 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    agreed, the only thing good that came from this was the short bonus animated comic where every main SH character is in it or is referenced

  • @DaybreakerRein
    @DaybreakerRein 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally got around to catching up on your videos, so glad that you were able to get Sharpscale working! You'll have to hit me up sometime and tell me what you did cuz it always crashed for me xD It makes me wonder how well Sharpscale would do playing PSP titles through the PSTV.
    I hate how the physical Vita carts are still expensive on the 2nd hand market, and it'll probably get worse as time goes on. So for anyone out there wanting to experience games on the Vita, I definitely recommend getting the homebrew up and running. Super easy to do and a ton of great games have been made super accessible because of it, and the HB community is pretty active. There is a ton of cool stuff outside the PS Vita and PSP games available so definitely worth it!

  • @HybridAngelZero
    @HybridAngelZero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This game lost me when the titular Book of Memories wasn't a metaphor, but a literal book filled with a list of your memories... I just... that really made me roll my eyes xD
    I think "horror-themed rouge like" is a cool idea, but tacking the Silent Hill name onto it was just... tasteless corporate marketing.
    1,000 points for name dropping Shiren the Wanderer in this review though. Now THAT is a must-own for Vita. ;D
    (it's coming to Switch this year, too)

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I kind of like the psp Shiren game more than the vita one. Both are awesome though. To be honest though, I dig the idea of an SH dungeon crawler. It doesn't feel like a cash grab to me because it's a spin off and...... well, why not? Based on what we've seen of the newer games in the series though, I can understand where you're coming from.

    • @HybridAngelZero
      @HybridAngelZero 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AvalancheReviews Silent Hill definitely does have an awesome rogue's gallery of demonic beasts, that's for sure.
      I will say, after thinking about it more, I think it would have been kind of cool to see what a dungeon crawler from the traditional Silent Hill camera perspective could have been, as you mentioned in the video

  • @mgrah3723
    @mgrah3723 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh yay! I was wondering if you were gonna bring this game up!

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. I have to cover all of em. ALL OF THEM!

  • @ThatOldSchoolMagic
    @ThatOldSchoolMagic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The top view perspective reminds me of Zombies ate my neighbors.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh for sure! Fuck! Imagine a psp remake of that game.

  • @hankhill1964
    @hankhill1964 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This game is salvageable. If they went full tilt on the idea of altering your past and flesh out some of the drama but stick with just one plot thread like someone getting fired for say an adiction getting in the way we could have had something good or at least half decent. And then when you finish one "past" for your character you could unlock another. Granted it would be hard to intigrate multiplayer but you could still make it a dungon crawler that changes each time you play it.
    As for the weapons one thing that could be done is add legendary weapons that could be significant to the character's past like say a hunting rifle they used when their dad took them on a family camping trip or a wooden sword they used to play with when they where a kid and have these stand out by being immune to breaking and have them scale with the character's or monster's level.

  • @contrabandresearch8409
    @contrabandresearch8409 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One day someone will make a great Silent Hill inspired dungeon crawler. It's too good of a concept to let fail

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly! The idea could definitely work.

  • @RealMctoran
    @RealMctoran 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Were you still planning to do a House of The Dead retrospective?

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I might cover one or two of those games, but I don't think I'll cover the entire series.

    • @RealMctoran
      @RealMctoran 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AvalancheReviews cool

    • @geceron
      @geceron 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AvalancheReviews But Overkill is a good game, no excelent, but very fun.

  • @simplyshane6477
    @simplyshane6477 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo Jared you ever read the silent hill omnibus? Or the interactive graphic novel game silent hill experience for psp?

  • @MultiKamil97
    @MultiKamil97 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoever thought this game would make a nice addition to the Silent Hill franchise must be insane. This game looks like it could be anything else but SH.

  • @bloodraptor
    @bloodraptor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Random gameplay concept.
    A break system which works like this:
    Usable: is the typical state the weapons are found.
    Broken: this is the fun part, for most weapons it means they lose some power, but in other cases they actually become stronger (example, a glass bottle), of course this state has less durability than the "usable" state.
    Useless: The weapon may disappear from your inventory, or remain and can be repaired, trying to use them do next to nothing.

  • @theretrogamers7690
    @theretrogamers7690 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This looks like one of those games where someone has to force themselves to like it. However, the idea of a random dungeon in the Silent Hill universe does make sense.

  • @12ealDealOfficial
    @12ealDealOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    On this day 8/5/2020, Jared begot his only $199.99 + shipping on eBay for a Vita TV to save us from... this.
    Can't believe you put yourself through Book of Memories. Bless you, sir.
    Is one of the remaining games the Play Novel? I'd love to see your thoughts on the extra campaigns. Then there's the "DLC" for the game that had the three extra modes that vanished in Japan. It'd be a crazy ride, but nothing short of a miracle could locate that Play Novel DLC.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I looked around and the only translations for the play novel exist via a web browser and some kind of flash interface. I was going to cover it, but I really want to play it on real hardware. I can read Hiragana and a little Katakana, but play novel uses a lot of Kanji, so I wouldn't be able to actually play through it in Japanese sadly. I lucked out on the vita though. Only had to pay 130$.

  • @NaminaQueenofDemons
    @NaminaQueenofDemons 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When this game first came out I remember thinking it didn't look all too polished for a Vita game and looking back it looks like a game for your phone. I never ended up getting it because though I am a huge fan of dungeon crawlers, especially old school ones, this one rubbed me wrong with the big Silent Hill in its title.

  • @MalganisLefay
    @MalganisLefay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    such tragedy, as the Concept to combine Silent hill with butterfly effect sounds pretty interesting on paper

  • @aliciafraser1835
    @aliciafraser1835 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I might have said this already on another SH video, but I have to take that make and say it here. I let out the most guttural "OH NO" in the world upon seeing this title!

  • @petermertens8839
    @petermertens8839 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Much Love from Germany!!

  • @zanychelly
    @zanychelly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    WayForward makes awesome 2D games, recently have made awesome gems.
    Silent Hill was their lowest point, they are much better than that.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've never played the Shantae games, but they do look like they're much better than this.

    • @zanychelly
      @zanychelly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Avalanche Reviews Give it try, maybe get one in a sale.
      I would recommend these four games : Double Dragon Neon, River City Girls, Contra 4 and Shantae and the Seven Sirens.

  • @villager9874
    @villager9874 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't even know this was even in anay of the silent hill games

  • @Safersephiroth777
    @Safersephiroth777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    True Silent Hill game here. I mean a person running around with an ice sword+2 and killing enemies. Just like all other SH games!

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably the most accurate entry since SH1.

  • @letsgobombo
    @letsgobombo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh man, I forgot this game existed! I was so excited for a Vita SH game... then I played the demo...

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep. I was really stoked to finally play the demo when I got my vita...................we know how that went though.

    • @RedBonkleMan8534
      @RedBonkleMan8534 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same bro...heckin same

  • @TKing677
    @TKing677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly I can see a Co-op Silent Hill working. Since most of what happens in the SH games is the character's PTSD mental torture there's a lot of potential that can play off of that. For example when you create a character you can pick one of X amount of vague backstories and depending on what you pick creates different outcomes in your environment/play through. So if you picked a backstory based on being stabbed in the back by those close to you, your teammates on occasion (on your screen) will turn into some messed up enemy that tries to attack you and when you both speak on mic in game chat it's replaced with static. Once the enemy is killed you'd snap out of it and see that your partner wasn't yet another back stabber that your character was deathly afraid of. You could also have endings revolving around the amount of players you have and what their backstories are as well as the choices you all made throughout. And that amount of endings isn't even that unrealistic since SH games are known for their abundance of endings.
    I'm just spitballing here but if done well I think a co-op SH can work while still having the constant panic attack vibe and even having the co-op itself play into that anxiety.
    But for the love of Christ if there's a create character don't have ridiculous options like the one shown in video? SH was always about the average Joe/Jane with a garbage past so keep the options semi-generic with realistic hair colors/styles.

    • @oliviawilliams6204
      @oliviawilliams6204 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      *look down at her gothic Lolita clothes, and her black/purple hair * heh I resent that!!
      On the other hand that reminds me of what they tried to do in Dead Space 3

    • @TKing677
      @TKing677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oliviawilliams6204 I'm not saying that nobody in reality wears anything that's considered "Out there" I'm just thinking about how SH protagonist are in every title and trying to keep it close to that.
      And yeah I heard about that, too. It's too bad that E.A single handedly fucked Dead Space 3 as a whole when the devs actually had a clever plan for the co-op. Must have been heartbreaking for the devs.

    • @oliviawilliams6204
      @oliviawilliams6204 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TKing677 I was teasing you

    • @TKing677
      @TKing677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oliviawilliams6204 Don't do that to me, you're too cruel. You know how hard it is for me to pick out teasery amongst text.

  • @husni1998
    @husni1998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you review the rest of the clock tower franchise and nightcry ?

  • @wayneralph945
    @wayneralph945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    silent hill always resonated with me because I have traditionally been my own worst enemy.

  • @provalone
    @provalone 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    'At the start of BM'..... sounds about right.

  • @AndyKazama2
    @AndyKazama2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In the words of Godfather part II: "Look how they massacred by boy"
    Edit: @Avalanche Reviews, has the Drakengard/Nier franchise been something you have thought of covering? I enjoy your take on things and would love to hear what you think of these games. Many sharks get jumped, but trust me, it works.

    • @MetaMetro3
      @MetaMetro3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That line’s from the first Godfather, not Part 2

    • @Gruntvc
      @Gruntvc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Still hoping the Drakengard Trilogy gets remastered and rereleased on current consoles and pc like Nier is.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So I hear a lot about the series, but to be honest, I've never touched it myself. I have a few of the games, but never really played them. If I end up liking Nier, I might go back and cover the whole series.

    • @Tetsuito
      @Tetsuito 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AvalancheReviews Thank you!

    • @AndyKazama2
      @AndyKazama2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AvalancheReviews that's where I would start. Drakengard or Drakengard 3 might be a bit weird for first timers, Nier is a good middle ground to start.

  • @mdjd4645
    @mdjd4645 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not remotely a survival horror and a Silent Hill game, but I'd lie if I said I didn't have fun with this game. Sweet easter eggs with Diablo clone gameplay, some cool bosses.
    A 7/10 game, imo.

  • @AidanDrotzur-uz5sz
    @AidanDrotzur-uz5sz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now for any silent hill fans looking for a good experience on the vita, the PSP games are available but I can't on good faith recommend them, there's also the first game available, and if the novelty of playing on the go isn't enough to justify a replay there a game called back in 1995, heavily inspired by the ps1 resident evil and especially silent hill, where a lot of the horror lies on that old polygonal style that the ps1 is known for, the game is even in 4:3 with an option for scanlines available, and finally there's Yomawari: Night Alone a phenomenal indie horror about exploring a dark foggy possibly haunted town in the middle of the night, all of these i can highly recommend over book of memories, as a huge vita and horror fan myself
    All that being said, book of memories is certainly not a horror game, and probably not what you would expect out of a silent hill game either, but if you enjoy dungeon crawlers you might actually like it, lots of people do, and the demo is free, so give it a try if you think you're interested

  • @stonerdemon
    @stonerdemon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad I got this game for $22 complete in perfect condition. Regardless of the game's quality, any old game belonging to a classic franchise is sure to go up in price these days.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah look at how much bad NES games cost nowadays.

  • @becca0668
    @becca0668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh how could this game be expensive, I've my copy for years since it came out and thought it was total junk.

  • @vladandnobody
    @vladandnobody 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Welcome back 🐱

  • @tympestbooks1727
    @tympestbooks1727 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember having really wanted to play this game. Still kind of do even knowing that it isn't a good Silent Hill game

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are parts of it that are actually really fun. Just put the game down when it stops being interesting, and you'll have a positive experience.

  • @curtislittrice9023
    @curtislittrice9023 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid.

  • @FredHerbert999
    @FredHerbert999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not Tomm Hulett's fault. Tomm prevented a super saiyen like battle between the cults God and a new God in SH in SH: Homecoming. Yeah, thats what he was working with.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. He prevented a few disasters in the games he didn't work on.

  • @GabryyLG
    @GabryyLG ปีที่แล้ว

    Most people dont own a Vita so its easier to treat this game as a joke. While it isn't anything special, I definitely had my fun and had a little addiction to it when I first got it. For some reason, I like the idea they were going for. Reminds me of childhood fantasies of fighting Silent Hill creatures while adventuring with a schoolmate of mine

  • @jun2damax
    @jun2damax 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Since ure doing Survival Horror games, would u tackle the underrated juggernaut Fatal Frame?

    • @blahblah14722
      @blahblah14722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you're hungry for content on Fatal Frame until Jared might one day do it, Super Bunnyhop and Nitro Rad have both covered it.

  • @darkcat282
    @darkcat282 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will you be reviewing the comics for this retrospective?

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought about it, but I don't know if that's my jam. I don't know the first thing about reviewing a comic series. Especially one as disjointed and odd as the SH ones.

  • @LuZRepliCant
    @LuZRepliCant 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will there be a PT retrospective?

  • @jakemar.490
    @jakemar.490 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will you cover "The Silent Hill Experience" for PsP?

  • @xhailnhail
    @xhailnhail 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love watching your reviews, keep up the great work :-)

  • @demogeymidge2997
    @demogeymidge2997 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What retrospectives do you plan on doing after you finish the SH series?

  • @mcain2911
    @mcain2911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “At the start of BM” You know what you did. You know...😀

  • @Lostinsilenthill
    @Lostinsilenthill 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope the rumors of the new silent hill game will be the one to bring Silent Hill back on the map, or should i say off the map and into the fog?

  • @michaelpitcher2820
    @michaelpitcher2820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What once was ART , reduced to a cash cow

  • @davidsimpson4046
    @davidsimpson4046 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dead space next please!! It’s one of the best stories out there