Any C of E who want to remain Anglican but your local church is apostate: start tithing by direct debit to the FCE. Pray the office alone if necessary but you can form groups, or pre-parishes for the FCE. Beautiful buildings: the C of E will collapse and their buildings will be up for sale in 20 years for a very low sum. Wait it out..
Great comment, yep by giving money to the apostate church people are supporting its promotion of error. FCE churches can start as house groups under the authority of an FCE bishop.
@@RevBrettMurphy The Anglican church has never been wholly evangelical and you know it, so there's always been plenty of error around but good Anglican churches don't feel the need to jump ship and wouldn't like to be called apostate. If I were asked to be "under the authority" of some FCE guy (and it would be a guy) who I don't know I'd leave, but go to a lively modern free church somewhere. It's not a binary issue Brett.
@@neilmccall5311 Yes it would be a guy because female ordination is unbiblical. Its not binary at all, but if you want to stay Anglican then the FCE is the destination for orthodox Anglicans.
When I left the Anglican Church in the early 90's in Australia due to the ordination of women I was accepted into the Russian Orthodox Church which has transformed my life for the better but if I had access to the thoughts of men like this I may have remained a protestant. Wonderful insights on display here.
I loved this chat about denominations and the fact that the importance is orthodoxy. After a very long gap between church attendance, I had a decision to make about church. Confirmed CofE however had a powerful revelation in an American Evangelican church and I have an influential Pentecostal. Church Leading family member... I was torn. I've finally reached out to the Free Church of England. My flavour of Christianity is firstly God Adoring, Christ Affirming, Biblical but secondly with a strong streak of Anglican tradition. I think the Lord gave us flavours of church for a reason. Thank our Heavenly Father for His Grace and Mercy... He gave us so many options that are faithful to His Righteousness 🎉🎉🎉
Ancient Future Faith. Love it. Sin is old fashioned and the way to deal with it has NEVER been updated and will never need to be updated. Romans 1:16 Thank you both for being UNASHAMED of the Gospel . It will ever be the power of God unto Salvation. Wonderful to hear about an event that has encouraged you both. God bess you both in your ministries as you encourage and comfort the Body of Christ. I am encouraged.
I discovered Fr. Calvin through his Oxford speech. I was so uplifted to see such a courageous stand for Christ against the apostasy of the church. It was during the same sex blessing controversy with the AoC that I found Rev. Brett. It’s paramount that we all examine ourselves and decide who we will serve. Personally, as a Christian in the US, I find myself turning away from modern preaching and embracing the wisdom of men of God from very long ago. JC Ryle’s A Call to Prayer was used so mightily by the Lord to melt this heart of stone.
It is really hard to be young men following the Lord in this day and age. Thank you both for being role models to us young men who want to follow God and His ways.
@@mikearchibald744 What do you mean by that? The amount of slander and ridicule godly men have to endure at school or work is increasing. Thankfully God is gracious and there is no/little physical persecution, yet.
@@oscarfabi_ No, the physical violence has been mostly aimed at trans people. But the fact you say 'godly men', the fact that you EQUATE these men with god shows where your clear bias is. You don't say 'christian men' or even 'moral men', but 'GODLY men', which frankly is an abomination. You go to work, you see injustice, there are now far more venues to take action than ANY time in history. What YOU mean by 'godly men' most people mean by 'pricks'. So you go to work, the company says it is developing policies so that gay people feel safe at work, I highly suspect your 'godly man' reject such notions and their view is that 'as godly men we need to be able to constantly tell these people they are going ot hell'. I SUSPECT you are equating 'godly men' with 'the traditional patriarchy', which I would argue is the OPPOSITE of a christian man, though I'd NEVER use the term 'godly men' as thats blasphemous, it was blasphemous even when Paul used it, its far worse now. Being morally righteaous now has more avenues for expression than ever before. There is NOTHING confusing about not being a prick. Toxic masculinity is now defined far better then ever, and doing the 'moral thing' is often argued by christians as being 'the christian thing', with some saying morality COMES from god, which means de facto t hat being moral is doing gods work even if god isn't in the conversation. In VERY few conversations does religion even come up, so I suspect your 'godly man' simply DEMANDS that he be given a soapbox and a place from which to cast judgement on all 'sinners' they see. Again, thats what the rest of the world calls 'pricks'. Its hardly the case that christianity and the tenets of it are not known to pretty much EVERYBODY, so there is simply NO need for such a soapbox.
@@oscarfabi_ It's getting harder to be any kind of man, esp. a Godly man. God bless you. There are quite a few women that see how men are under attack, and any type of male authority or leadership.
God bless you. Please continue to pray for us out in the protestant branch of Christianity. I see your churches are getting infiltrated w/ moral decay too. You don't have women preachers yet, but there's a push and I see pride Masses are a thing, and parishes joining pride marches. It's unsettling to see a church as big and old as the RCC being assaulted by it too. We're all under fire.
You and Calvin Robinson are always the dynamic duo . While not an Anglican myself, I definitely have great respect for not only your beliefs, which I adhere to (see the Apostles Creed) but also your style(s) of worship.
These two guys have both left the C of E , a regular meeting and conversation by both of these God loving individuals would be a good idea moving forward...🙏
@newkingdommedia9434 I discovered your channel when I was searching for instructions about how to use the Book of Common prayer (1662). Your video was very helpful to me as I'm not from a liturgical church. I probably should have posted this on your channel!
These two are becoming warriors using the full force of the word. The only ones I'm seeing making a stand , but that's a good sturdy platform with plenty of room for others to join in. A new wave of biblical teaching that requires a good handle on politics to combat this rapid rise of corruption inf society. Keep the momentum going 💪
I am a member of the assemblies of God and i love listening to you and agree with you both. I came from an anglican background and love the traditions and believe in Christians coming together. The Lord bless you and your important ministries.
Brought up In the Pentecostal Denomination with healing miracles etc manifesting, having a number of ways of worshipping, God then called me t attending an Anglican Church and become a very active member. I love the foundational teaching of the gospel of Jesus. That is our calling - take his gospel to all the world. The true, orthodox gospel. God is using this turbulent time to wake up his followers and bring about a great harvest. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I have so much respect for you guys, for standing on the Truth of Christs Word!!! Praise God Almighty. May you both be blessed in your kingdom work; for Gods glory. Much love From South Africa
Ordinariate here: I pray the office which is 99% the same as the BCP office. I can't tell you how how much this has enriched my faith. The Anglican Way is alive and well in multiple denominations.
I have recently become a member of our local baptist church after being a life long C of E member. I have been following both of you for quite a while and thank you for you continued spiritual guidance and speaking the biblical truth. ✝️
I too am considering my local Baptist church after a particularly distressing service last Sunday that both twisted Gods word and promoted the woke ideology of today. Really distressing for lots of us.
We’ve lost the call to repentance! Love your voices in these times!! I don’t worship in the Anglican tradition but we do hold the Word in high esteem. Thank you both that you do as well. Bless you both!
As a Presbyterian I completely agree about what you were both saying about how faithful Christians need to be more united, to stop attacking each other, and to stand together against the secular culture that has replaced our once-faithful societies. God bless.
Jeremiah 6.16 Thus says the LORD: Stand at the crossroads, and look, and ask for the ancient paths, where the good way lies; and walk in it, and find rest for your souls. But they said, “We will not walk in it.” Thanks for reminding us that we still have that choice.
Tradition can teach us a lot of truth we have lost in the One Church. But tradition without God the Holy Spirit can only be a form of Godliness without the power thereof.
I have a mixed background of evangelical Anglican, Baptist and for a while what used to be called house church. This conversation brought out the free church element in me! It's true that divisions within denominations can nowadays be greater than divisions between them when we are talking about genuine believers. The older historic churches have to my mind always been 'mixture' churches, where authentic faith has coexisted with what I call 'religion', the external forms and rites that may be devoid of spiritual reality in the adherents. Centuries of tradition not all of which is compatible with the faith once delivered, and may be antithetical to it. The current C of E is a right mix up, but if a local church is faithful I wouldn't automatically not go there because much of the leadership is indeed apostate. This is a matter for personal conscience which should be respected. I honestly don't know if what we currently have is Lloyd-Jones versus John Stott for the second time of asking (as it were!) or not.
" THIS IS WHAT THE LORD SAYS: (STAND AT THE CROSSROADS AND LOOK; ASK FOR THE ANCIENT PATHS, ASK WHERE THE GOOD WAY IS, AND WALK IN IT, AND YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS. Jeremiah 6:16
❤listening to you’s 2. So much truth & wisdom. I’ve been a member of The Church of Scotland 🏴 for bout 34yrs. My minister is just wonderful & is such a blessing. I get angry 😠 at the things that the pope is saying never mind the Archbishop of Canterbury. I see the Bible Believing ⛪️ in the 🇺🇸 & it’s just wonderful. God bless you’s in your walk with the Lord 🙏🏻
This is what the Lord says, "Stand at the crossroads and look; ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is and walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls..." Jer.6:16 You're both singing my song Brett & Calvin - we must get back to a sense of the sacred and unabashed reverence for the holy. Modernism is responsible for, among other horrors, the current dire over-familiarity with God Almatey!🙄
@@archieroo I share your despair. Sadly, that's the kind of contempt familiarity breeds in our churches today, but one day they'll stand & tremble before a holy, righteous God....🙏
As a recently reverted and orthodox Roman Catholic I feel a great fellow feeling with you guys. It is certainly true that the RC hierarchy in the UK is burying its head in the sands and we have a terrible pontiff at the moment. However I still feel this is the mother church which has not gone apostate and is not democratic. If only we had more people like you in it. Homeless Anglicans should at least check out their local Ordinariate mission. I know Calvin hasn't had a great experience with the Ordinariate but it still contains many orthodox non woke types and the liturgy, much of it based on the BCP, is beautiful and inspiring.
I am baptsed Presbyterian went to Uniting Church of Australia Sunday school when joining the Australian Navy at 17 I left the church as I worked my entire adult life either offshore in Navy or latter offshore Oil and Gas. I am married to my wife who is a Buddhist. I have 2 children both been brought up to know both religion's they were born in Thailand where I spent quiet some time learning Buddhism (Thai Theravada) my children latter went to a Trinity Catholic college high school back in Australia. All 4 of us are now back in Thailand children have completed university have partners and follow Han Buddhism belief's. My wife and I are looking after her mother 93 with Alziemers disease. I have been drawn back to learn more about the Bible and I follow a online Presbyterian service each Sunday and try to do more bible study as I do not watch Thai TV. I also normally watch your service replay when get time. I am surprised how so long after leaving Sunday school and suddenly seeing things in my mother inlaw struggles and my need to cope with how to best help her in daily life brought me to the scripture's.
I am an Anglican who left the Church of England last Easter and have gone to a Community Church I would become a Roman Catholic except I am nearly 80 years old I don’t think they would want me ,.😄I love you both.xx
My dear friend, I encourage you to go to the nearest Catholic parish and tell the priest that you wish to be recieved into the Catholic Church. (And if, God forbid, you have a problem go to another Catholic priest). I also recommend to you the site 'Catholic Answers'. I will pray for you each day, Glenys. From Australia. Peace be with your spirit
You would also be very welcome at your closest Orthodox Church, a Church where will find a faith which does not change and still preaches just as the Apostles did.
@@PhoebeK The 22 eastern Churches who have returned to the Rock of Peter over the centuries would advise you did not attend on of the many Orthodox churches, but rather a Catholic Church
@@DD-bx8rb 22 is a bit of a large number for those who you say have returned, from the Eastern perspective many of those who you say have returned we view as having schismed from the true Church. I am a practicing Orthodox Christian and while I looked around I became Orthodox because it was the only church which still preached the Gospel as it has been since the time of the Apostles. I will not argue with you as that never works I would just in love suggest you read the fathers east and west and compare the teachings of any church to that before making polemics that a given group is not in the truth.
I keep seeing this older debade, White vs. Wilson, Are Catholics brothers and sisters in the Lord? Well yes, praise God and Amen. I see Catholics and every branch of Christianity in here encouraging and praying for Rev. Brett and the fight to stay true to biblical beliefs in these threads, regularly.
We cant build like that anymore... We are a society of instant gratification. Taking a long time to bring things to fruition is no longer a human attribute that is practiced widely. Woman priests and woke idiots hahaha! Thank you for this gentleman! I enjoyed the interview very much!
I'm orthodox Anglican (Church of Ireland), but I live in Norway and attend a conservative Lutheran church (part of the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Norway, formerly the State Church, a church that has decided to emulate Janus by having two faces and allowing a multiplicity of theology, leading to a situation where some churches have yoga, muslim prayer and rainbow mass, wile others are orthodox, conservative, biblical Lutherans, who preach God's truth. Until recently it was also possible for male priests to reserve themselves against having to work with ordaned women). I'd go for a Lutheran Free Church, but the main one is going down the same path. Also they're very low-church, and I'm very High Church. I can only get High Church liturgy at the conservative churches in the Church of Norway, or at a Roman Catholic church (and at the latter I can't recieve Holy Communion). Back in Ireland it was a little easier, with the Church itself being generally conservative, albeit a mite low-church (or middle-church perhaps... no sung liturgy, no bells or smells, and limited vestments, but also no rock concerts either... the worship is still active and God-centred, not a passive 'experience').
Boys - wonderul to see two young servants together - but I would suggest that your ministry should also include guiding and introducing new Anglican priests to the faith - as powerful as you are .
You don't realise how led by the Spirit you are. God is moving to bring a new generation of orthodox Anglican priests into the FCE to be trained and ordained from scratch.
Everything grows and is constantly changing, except God. He remains the same, yesterday, today and forever. He is our redeemer, His steadfast Love. The growing changing world we live in doesn’t compare to the kingdom of God growing within us. Glory to God Fellowship with the Lord. Has there been a time where we were not on the mind and heart of the Father? Such Pure Holy Just Merciful Generous Love. That’s a long time. One might begin to think that the Lord loves us. Thank you Jesus Victorious Saviour ❤️ Psalm 86:5 (AMP) For You, O Lord, are good, and ready to forgive [our sins, sending them away, completely letting them go forever and ever]; And abundant in lovingkindness and overflowing in mercy to all those who call upon You.
I'm a member of TEC in a solid diocese and parish. We just had our new bishop-- Rt. Rev. Dr. Justin Holcomb-- consecrated back in June and I'm hopful for our area at least.
In responce to 17:25 the Eastern Orthodox Church is expanding rapidly with new converts from Protestant Evangelicals, Free Church, and many others seeking Truth in the UK. People are seeking the origins of Christianity which has continued as is was in the early Church. It is difficult for many, as the theology and ethos is so different from what they know in the Protestantism. But with an open mind,study, and an open heart, so many are finding their home there. It appears to be a common way forward for those who are tired of seeking and re-creating something 'more orthodox' within the Anglican tradition.
I want to go back to a church circa 1880 , fire and brimstone preachers , no dilution of the word and knowing that your religion is superior to all others . It is no mistake that the more any religion strays from its message, the more it becomes weaker and rudderless. Many young men are turning to Islam now because it is stable , strong and refuses to submit , it is not the answer and while it’s intransigence should be emulated it should be targeted whenever possible as a competitor. The other competitor is the church hierarchy who are godless and must either go and start their own religion of woke or the congregation must leave .
You can come back to the Church which still preaches as the apostles did in AD 80. The Orthodox Church is full of young men as it is one which still practices all the ascetical disciplines of the Church which the Fathers of the Church knew and practices.
I have hope gafcom church takes off for us church of England congregation but it is very difficult as we do not have a gafcom church where we are as the only ones are down south of England we are lost and stuck the only way at this moment is on line for us.If this is not possible, then we have no one to turn to worship god.😢
Every age has its fads, fashions and errors. The book of Acts and St Paul's letters show that the early church was no picnic, it had problems with false teachers and a lot of the garbage we have nowadays. But Christ did promise us that his burden was light, He wouldn't give us more than we could handle and that the gates of hell would never stand against His Church.
@@philiphumphrey1548 I would have been extremely hard for the early church. We seem to have this myth that it was different back then, but trying to establish the faith w/ the OT and early church writings, which were in sparse supply back then. You'd only have some books or letters, and they were precious. It was just as new age and pagan practices, w/ modern ideas. They had to compete w/ the Jews and Romans for their lives, not just ministry. False teachers were springing up, and there's plenty of early disputes and smaller divisions.
We all do. It really doesn't matter what our denomination is called, or how old the church professes to be. We are still one body in Christ, as he doesn't see the walls and the signs like we do. When we are all united w/ the Lord, we will have the full unity and oneness that we long for, even those that don't think they need to long for it.
Du sollst ni ht toten du sollst nich enebrechen du sollst nicht falsches zeugnis reden wider. Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not commit a crime, Thou shalt not bear false witness. I am always keen to learn, thanks to Google Translation. Forgive me if the grammar-translation is a bit incorrect. Seriously, I hope all is well, Rev. Brett It is sad that you both left the CoE when I believe, in my own view, there is a need for both of you within the CoE establishment. Keep up the good work, both you and Calvin, and may God Almighty guide you both with strength and wisdom.
I can't speak for Fr Calvin but having heard his story I think it's safe to say that we were both driven out of the CofE. The establishment is controlled from the top down by powerful and very wicked leftist, modernist forces.
I grew up Methodist, became a Jehovah's witness in my 20s, left that in my 40s and found Christ finally and now go to a pentecostal church. Our pastor has started inviting ministers of other faiths to preach at our church. Our first this weekend was an Anglican minister but it's not a GAFCON church so am very unsure that we should be communing with them. I'm trying to find a biblically strong church nearby and can't find one. How do we find a church that is biblically strong?
That's very sad to hear, praying for you. It takes quite a bit of discernment to find an orthodox church these days. Check their website, look into their teachings etc. A dead giveaway for churches to avoid is if they permit women to be pastors and their views on homosexuality but there can be more subtle lies than that. Many folks are facing the prospects of moving to be near biblical churches now as they're so few and far between.
What was it like to be a Jehovah's Witness all those years? They are very studied and devout, but they don't seem to see us as Christians like them. I hear it's extremely hard to leave because the indoctrination and fear is intense, and they think they are the only ones saved who know the truth. God bless you in your search for a bible teaching church. You might be fine where you are, and may be called to strengthen what remains.
I thought I would have lifelong friends but they would rather cross the road in order not to meet me face to face, it was different to say the least 😂 I didn't find it as hard as some do to leave as I didn't have any family in there with me to make it harder. Imagine if you were say, 3rd generation, grandparents, parents, cousins, brothers and sisters and you wanted to leave. Your whole family would stop talking to you, you're taught that everyone outside is evil, how would you cope and I've heard of so many having committed suicide because they couldn't cope. Horrible mind control methods. I feel great pity for those that are caught up with it still 🥺🥺
I hope you never called your male parent "Dad" then....you like so many take that verse out of context. 1 Cor 4:15 says Paul was a spiritual father in Christ...was the Apostle then contradicting Jesus? No of course not. Matt 23:9 is referring to placing some human teacher on a pedestal and giving them the same authority as Father God.
I was riased in my first few years in an Anglican church, was the only church in the village...🤷♂️ anyway, I moved to Baptist and over the years have been to different denominations but am currently in a house church after been hit with the vaccine mandates in the govt influenced...... church and i don't feel right there🤨 (im based in New Zealand)
I think the western church needs to rediscover the doctrine of theosis. Then you have purpose and meaning to life. The way I understand it, is raising ourselves from original sin by the grace of God and the sacraments to our rightful position as God intended in the book of Genesis.
Interesting comments about the quality of Victorian Architecture - the quality of the design, materials and the build! You seem to unaware why such building was possible! At that time Britain was the most powerful nation in the world with an Empire spanning most of the globe. The Nation became hugely rich by extracting the wealth from her colonies and utilising cheap native labour - your ancestors Calvin! Sadly that wealth is a thing of the past, so today design, materials and build are constrained by budgets - the gravy train has run dry, but we have have the statements of power, oppression and superiority for all to see in our remaining architecture.
The way you speak about what the Church, the Mass, and the relationship of the Christian to Christ and the Church (repentance and confession) should be, you sound as though you are recommending going back to the pre-Reformation Catholic Church. Are we where we are because European ‘Christian’ culture turned its back on orthodox Catholicism 500 years ago????
I encourage viewers to go to the nearest Catholic parish and tell the priest that you wish to be recieved into the Catholic Church. (And if, God forbid, you have a problem go to another Catholic priest). I also recommend to them that they the site 'Catholic Answers'. From Australia. Peace be with your spirit
to Kalev & Yoshua, from Rev.3:2 (to the Church at Sardis) - "Wake up, & strengthen what remains (those who are left) & is on the point of death (clinging to faith by their fingernails), for I have not found your works perfect (complete) in the sight of My God (your job's not done yet!)" ... maybe the 'woak' left should make a movie about 'how the west was won' & God can always win it back ... '...revive Your work in the midst of the years!' Hab 3:2 ... Jesus raised Lazarus when he was 4 days dead & stinky! (roster dish washers, based on small but growing (faithful) congregation ...)
I saw an interview on the Matt Whitman channel: Heartfelt Interview About Anglican Beliefs and the Difficulties of Faith. It is a middle or low Anglican branch in the States. The pastor was a solid bible believer and strong in his theology, though his branch had women preachers. He didn't defend or deny it, he was strengthening what remained. Matt is an ex pastor himself and from his seeing all different churches, he had found himself demoralized by some very liberal churches that are just empty shells, that don't believe the fundamentals of Christianity anymore, and even necessarily that Jesus is the risen Lord and part of the Godhead. Matt had mentioned this in a previous video, that this pastor really renewed his spirit and filled his cup again. I'm not plugging for liberal churches and lady pastors. Just agreeing w/ how sometimes we have to strengthen that which remains.
Brett, please dont get bogged down with all this stuff about denominations! Like another commentator, uncomfortable about all this ' Father' language and the crucifix. Please, please dont depart from your gentle ways and the simplicity of loving Jesus.
Agree. It’s such a shame with these two gentlemen who speak so much truth. Calvin just doesn’t look his same self with the dog collar either. These clothes are important to them I think, but authority does not come from these clothes. Also, what is with the crucifix there - Jesus rose again! But I do applaud them for speaking out the way they are.
I've always worn my clerical (not dog that's insulting) collar as a public witness. Likewise I have both crucifixes and empty crosses in my study. Having a crucifix doesn't deny Jesus rose again, it merely poignantly reminds us that he died to take away our sins as the atonement.
The future of Anglicanism is Eastern Orthodoxy. Ridding yourself of the heresy of Rome should mean you return to the original church. Not set up a new church.
Please remember that some of your loyal listeners are living in Hong Kong; now many denominations, including our own Anglican Province is struggling with the influence of CCP control and influence in local dioceses. The structure of local churches may have to resort to more of an informal house church structure. Please do not assume all Christians overseas have the same struggles or issues you face in Europe, Australia and NZ or North American Anglicans/Episcopal Ians. Thank you!
You speak of the division of the various interpretations of Christianity, and how they should all pull together, yet you both have not been able to find alignment with your chosen church. The Catholic/Anglican Church (no difference of course) which you espouse was strong because they had control of public life, and were backed by the establishment. Do we want to return to tyranny or have freedom of choice?
I do admire Calvin Robinson for his ability to articulate the truth, but beware Brett; for he is developing an air of superiority and a sense of justified eminence as a spokesperson for orthodox Anglicanism even though he has yet to be ordained as a priest/presbyter. He seriously needs to reflect further on his own warning at 4.01: 'It's idolatry of the self...it's all about making God of ourselves'.
There is only one Church since Christ only has one body. There is a direct link between the contemporary Church and the Orthodox Christians who first came to these islands. We should remain close to our Orthodox origins and do not need to be Eastern Orthodox. We don’t need to be Tractarian. It’s about avoiding innovations and daily picking up our crosses. It’s all in the Book of Common Prayer. Pray without ceasing.
Why do it hald heatedly and only return to the reformation? when the Orthodox Church is alive and well in the UK and very welcoming to anyone who wants to come and see.
@@PhoebeK the aim of the English Reformers was to return to the teachings of the early Church - and presented in the Nicene Creed. The BCP is based on ancient liturgy. We need to attend a Church that is orthodox in theology and loves Jesus - such as traditional Anglicanism.
@@adrianthomas1473 Have you read the 39 articles? These distinctly state that the churches of Antioch, Alexandria and Jerusalem are in error, and subscribe to a number of other Protestant doctrine antithetical to the Orthodox faith which would not be recognised by the British saints of the first millennium. While yes the reformers did the right thing in ascribing to the Nicean creed there is a denial of many other ancient practices along with a failure to unite with the ongoing apostolic succession of the Orthodox Church. I know where you are I went through that stage but as I learnt more about the early British saints the more I understood that they would not recognise most of the modern church practices as they differ from those they knew. All I can say is come, see and experience as Orthodoxy is a faith of understanding yes but more so one of encounter.
@@PhoebeK Thank you for your thoughtful response. The English reformers knew the early Church Fathers well - as did John Wesley. There is a direct link in these isles to the Orthodox missionaries - and the essential thing is for all Christians to follow the Orthodox Faith which is the united faith before the schism. Churches that follow the traditional Faith can be Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Anglican, Methodist and the centre is the risen Christ. Those in the West do not have to become Eastern Orthodox. We don’t have to join a Russian or Greek or Romanian church. We follow Christ and He only has one body made up of those united to Him.
Enjoyed your stimulating conversation. Why Germany, though? Germany is the new center of gravity for orthodox Anglicans? 😏 In England you would be hunted down as fugitives from the Archbishops?
The Reformed Episcopal Church in the USA has a summer camp in Germany and it seemed good to bring together REC planters from across Europe while we had the best minds from America to teach and guide us
There is a danger of slipping into 'performative reaction', as shallow and self-indulgent as the 'performative radicalism' of the Left. The whole point of Anglicanism is that it does embrace 'modernity'; it defined itself against the modernity-rejecting, obscurantism of counter-reformation Roman Catholicism. Modernity started in 1517, not 1968. To reject modernity in toto means rejecting the Reformation, the Gothic Revival, even the Victorian sewage works which Calvin praises for their beauty. Victorian sewage works are a product of modern science, germ theory, epidemiology - and also of parliamentary government and bureaucratic organisation (no Metropolitan Management Act, no Metropolitan Board of Works, no sewage system). If you are going to rail against 'modernity', it is important to define your terms better. I think what you are actually against is 'modernism', which is a very different thing.
Rev. Brett. I am offended that your guest uses the title Father. I am offended to see you chat in front of a crucifix, not an empty cross. Please follow the Holy Bible, not traditions, and may God bless your work in His name. Amen.
I hear and understand your offence. I was raised to despise clerical collars (in fact all clerical garb), crucifixes, and the use of the title "Father" by some clergy, among other things. After nearly 35 years of ministry I have seen, at times, that my views were offensive to others. I realise that my traditions are very different from those of Anglican and Catholic clergy and I still struggle to accept these things, BUT: As I have had to do, I urge you to look beyond those points of difference and offence, and to listen to the words of Christly wisdom in their message. You probably won't agree with all they have to say, but you will be blessed and challenged along the way. If you have not already done so, I strongly encourage you to search on TH-cam for Calvin Robinson Debate - his speech at the Oxford Union on why Christians should not support same sex marriage. I suspect you might be blessed by it as many others have been. One thing that we cannot deny about Brett and Calvin, is that they both love the Lord and seek to glorify His name in all they do and say. God bless you and them.
Hi, I agree with you and find it sad that Brett seems to be swopping one set of traditions for another set of traditions. Calvin seems to me to be Roman Catholic. I am 70 and for much of my journey I've left traditional religion. I have benefitted from the teaching of Derek Prince, who was a great man of God who was infact non denominational. I believe we need to be closely linked with Israel and praying for the peace of Jerusalem...........I don't hear either of these men speak about Israel.
@@paulinewhite3273 I had just listened to some Derek Prince when Brett's discussion appeared! There are one or two things he taught I'm cautious about, but it is refreshing to hear someone who has studied the bible for himself without having to adhere to the various 'isms' that have plagued church history. The spiritual warfare angle is much neglected these days (not by our host!) as what is happening in the C of E is not just human rebellion but to my mind must have a demonic element.
This is the priesthood here and it saddens me. It is not biblical, the Lord Jesus is our great high priest and we are a royal priesthood. They are lovely men in many ways but this site is not for me after all. Yes, sounds like Calvin is Roman Catholic or at least Anglo-Anglican.
You're offended by the title "Father" then you'd better speak to the Apostle St Paul who described himself as a father in Christ (1 Cor 4:15). As for being offended by a crucifix....I'll pray for you! Being reminded of the atonement and propitiation of Christ's death is nothing to be offended over for a Christian.
Also we have in our deanery ladies who have been ordained and serve without stipend in an area where a paid vicar has too many churches to cover. These two guys would just invalidate their ministries and send them to make the tea. And I don't believe that Catholicism, towards which Calvin clearly gravitates, is anything like a "Biblical church". I wouldn't attend a church under their ministries.
Women have a huge amount of wonderful ministry to offer the church far more than just "making tea" but being a priestess isn't permitted by God. You rather prove the point of the video, you prefer secular modernity (feminism) over biblical tradition (complimentarian gender roles). My wife is an excellent example of this, she thrives in keeping our home, caring for our children and having a servant hearted ministry at church and is very blessed in all she does.
@@RevBrettMurphy Actually being a priest isn't "permitted by God" for anyone in the New Testament, you won't see a single reference to any set-apart ordained priesthood and I think evangelical Anglicans quietly know this. Now I'm prepared to put up with what I consider to be a minor heresy because I don't want the job and I think God has still called me to an Anglican church, it's not "feminism" it's using the gifts God has given to all his people. "Blessing" bread and wine isn't a gift of the Sprit but I recognise that we need ministers of some kind for counselling and leadership (and preaching is quite minimal) so at least Anglican ministers have to have some kind of training - but what is there a woman can't comprehend or do or say?? At least your taste in beer is sound.
Wrong. Jesus Rose on the Sunday (the first day of the week) and Christians began worshipping Him on that day since the earliest times of the church (Acts 20:7, 1 Cor 16:2).
@@RevBrettMurphy Jesus does not care weather He rose on that day, He did not command the Sabbath to be changed, He did not command Sunday Service. What you just said has nothing to do with the changes that the church made - directly against the very handwriting of God...
@@RevBrettMurphy "12And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 13Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you. 14Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. 15Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. 16Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. 17It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed." FOR. EVER.
@@RevBrettMurphy Jesus kept the Sabbath. Jesus kept those feast days. The Acts church kept the Sabbath. The Acts church kept those feast days... None of them started Sunday Service...
Why is it that brother Calvin and Brett you profess to believe in truth as it is in the Scriptures and even identify yourselves with the remnants of the true religion of Christ, yet you do just the opposite??? You both portray yourselves as those "...earnestly contend(ing) for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints." Jude 3 , yet you blatantly teach and practice the opposite of the Scriptures. Didn't you read where Jesus said, "And why call ye Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not the things which I say?"Luke 6:46. Brother Calvin why do you assume the title 'Father' on matters of worship? Have you not read Matthew 23:9 Jesus saying, "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." Similarly, brother Brett claims the appellation Reverend. Brother Brett did you miss Psalms 111:9 "He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name." As both of you would be aware, the Bible defines blasphemy as "being a man, makest thyself God." Read John 10:33 "The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Clearly, you must never, in any manner, treat in vein the titles or appellations of the deity. To do so is to break the 3rd commandment in the decalogue. Being theologians, I don't think you need reminding, but for the sake of your audience I once again cite the scriptures: "Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain." Exodus 20:7 In like manner, you teach your adherents to observe as the Sabbath Sunday the first day of the week in blatant violation of the 4th commandment. God declares, “To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.” Isaiah 8:20. We are now living in the last days of earth's history. No wonder Satan employs every possible device to prevent men from obtaining a knowledge of the Bible; for its plain utterances reveal his deceptions. But thanks be to God. He directs His people to the Scriptures as their safeguard against the influence of false teachers and the delusive power of spirits of darkness. Brethren, I beseech you in the name of Saviour, please cut off from the religion of Babylon...cut off completely from the catholic church teachings. I have doubt that you know perfectly well that Catholicism is the wine of Babylon. "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." Revelation 18:4 "For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies." Revelation 18:3
I'm not making any claim brother but simply subjecting your statements in this video to the Bible and Bible alone. If I'm wrong brother Brett please show me from the scriptures where I'm wrong. Cite scripture NOT Google.
@@zommusiyiwa3685 I can't be bothered refuting you when I have a busy ministry to run and a church to lead. That's why I said search online for an answer to your query, it's easily to find.
@@RevBrettMurphyIt's a pity you are not bothered to educate us of the truth ....yet you are busy castigating the COE for the same things you are practicing. ....the answers are with you, right there in your titles (Father & Reverend) and also in your messages in that video presentation attacking the decalogue.,... for you know perfectly well that the law of God is immutable, holy, perfect, true and unchanging. Yet you urge people to keep Sunday. Where in the scriptures is it said Sunday is the Sabbath of the Lord Jehovah? Is it not the mark of Papal authority?The last time I checked online, Google was awash with evidence of papal claims that it was the authority that transferred the solemnity of the seventh day Sabbath from Friday sunset to Saturday sunset to the first day of the week, an ordinary day of work that God never made holy, sanctified or made to be hallowed. Brother Brett, as you are a theologian we expect you to know better unless you are wilfully on the side of the arch apostate , the Devil, Satan himself. A sincere disciple of Christ does not show anger when pointed to the scriptures that rebuke him, rather he delights in the truth? Please don't be angry with Jesus when says to you "If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 14:15. He granted you the facilities for the gospel work, He endowed you with the intellect and other capacities to draw many to the cross. So, will you not do His will....will you not keep and teach the true Sabbath not the spurious papal sabbath Sunday? Brett my brother I urge you by the grace of God, please choose ye this day to worship Christ not the papal God. Then, like Peter you will obey God rather than men. Acts 5:29 and like David, delight to do His will for His law will be written in your heart Psalm 40:8. And great peace will you have and nothing will offend you as it is said in Psalms 119: 165.
@@zommusiyiwa3685 You clearly haven't actually listened to any of my critiques of the CofE. I critique them because they are apostates who approve same-sex blessings and women's ordination, I oppose those things strongly. You're just making yourself look silly now.
Wow, how disrespectful of Women preachers! It’s common knowledge women were among his disciples and teachers! Sadly Institutionalised Christianity changed Jesus teaching and created their own dogma and narrative.
I humbly correct you, the Catholic Church does not teach a "works based Gospel". That is propoganda from those who wish to keep their jobs as Protestant diviners. What the Catholic Church ACTUALLY teaches is that Grace saves us. Nothing earns this Grace, especially the works of the Old Law. (The works of the Old Law is what St Paul condemned). We respond to this free gift of Grace in faith and works. Works are essential! Faith-Alone was never taught by Christ and the Apostles: “‘Not everyone who says to me, “Lord, Lord,” shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven’” (Matt. 7:21). “For he will render every man according to his works . . .” (Rom. 2:6-8). “For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified” (Rom. 2:13).
Lovely men but do not agree with calling them ‘Reverend’ and especially Father. Why ‘Father’ ? The Bible says, Call no man Father - and it does sound rather Roman Catholic. Don’t like all the garb either, especially the dog collars. I do realise it’s all to do with Anglicanism.
Jesus is not forbidding us to call men “fathers” who actually are such-either literally or spiritually. He is warning people against inaccurately attributing fatherhood-or a particular kind or degree of fatherhood-to those who do not have it. The New Testament is filled with examples of and references to spiritual father-son and father-child relationships. Perhaps the most pointed New Testament reference to the theology of the spiritual fatherhood of priests is Paul’s statement, “I do not write this to make you ashamed, but to admonish you as my beloved children. For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel” (1 Cor. 4:14-15). In fact, John also addresses men in his congregations as “fathers” (1 John 2:13-14). By referring to these people as their spiritual sons and spiritual children, Peter, Paul, and John imply their own roles as spiritual fathers. Since the Bible frequently speaks of this spiritual fatherhood, we Catholics acknowledge it and follow the custom of the apostles by calling priests “father.” Failure to acknowledge this is a failure to recognize and honor a great gift God has bestowed on the Church: the spiritual fatherhood of the priesthood.
By your exegetical model we ought never call our male parents "Dad" then. Jesus isn't saying literally never call anyone father, he's making a point about the spiritual authority of men who claim to speak for God. Paul describes himself as a father in Christ in 1 Corinthians!
@@RevBrettMurphy Not sure why you replied to my comment this way as it would appear we agree. That aside, those who claim "calling a priest "father" is un-Biblical" is yet another example which highlights Sola Scriptura (Prima Scriptura for those in denial) as a failed practice. Each reader claims the "right interpretation" whilst arriving at different and opposing doctrinal conclusions. Christ would never ordain such a practice for arriving at the truth He guarantees.
My dear friend, you do not understand what the Catholic Church ACTUALLY teaches. The Scriptures come from the Church. I recommend to you the site 'Catholic Answers'. Peace be with your spirit
As a woman, I find the EXCLUSIVITY of the male-only priesthood mind-set a major hassle. (2000 years ago, priestesses were serving in pagan temples.) THEN a male-only priesthood was logical because of the physical dangers involved in travel and proclaiming the Gospel, but, today, - why waste the brains and compassion of 50%+ of the population? Here in South Africa, (the Global South) we have a minority of women priests, serving in parishes, and they feel they were called by Jesus to do so. Given equal standards of psychology, personality, morals, and education, why should gender be the deciding factor? (In case you are wondering, no, I would never make a good priest myself. I won't apply.) I suspect you are going to be surprised, one day in heaven, to find how many women have been called by Jesus, and validly ordained, to serve Him AS PRIESTS.
"Given equal standards of psychology, personality, morals, and education, why should gender be the deciding factor?" Because the apostle Paul speaking under inspiration of the Spirit made such a limitation, basing it on creation rather than the culture of his day. The OT priesthood was male, and to the extent NT leaders carry on with this in the form of pastors/elders they are male. There are no priests offering sacrifices or mediating between man and God any more, this concept of priest has ended. On the other hand, the whole people of God is a holy priesthood, so male and female may have ministries and gifts - praying and prophesying as the Spirit is poured out on all. This latter truth should not be used to negate the former restriction though.
As a woman you need to submit to God and His word where he forbades female pastors. The length many women go to to justify ignoring the Bible's teaching on this is sad and shows how low their view of scripture is. God's word is unchanging, you act as though when the Holy Spirit inspired the Bible he didn't know that in the future feminism would exist and thus you limit God to a tiny box of your own making.
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Any C of E who want to remain Anglican but your local church is apostate: start tithing by direct debit to the FCE. Pray the office alone if necessary but you can form groups, or pre-parishes for the FCE.
Beautiful buildings: the C of E will collapse and their buildings will be up for sale in 20 years for a very low sum. Wait it out..
Great comment, yep by giving money to the apostate church people are supporting its promotion of error. FCE churches can start as house groups under the authority of an FCE bishop.
@@RevBrettMurphy The Anglican church has never been wholly evangelical and you know it, so there's always been plenty of error around but good Anglican churches don't feel the need to jump ship and wouldn't like to be called apostate. If I were asked to be "under the authority" of some FCE guy (and it would be a guy) who I don't know I'd leave, but go to a lively modern free church somewhere. It's not a binary issue Brett.
@@neilmccall5311 Yes it would be a guy because female ordination is unbiblical. Its not binary at all, but if you want to stay Anglican then the FCE is the destination for orthodox Anglicans.
When I left the Anglican Church in the early 90's in Australia due to the ordination of women I was accepted into the Russian Orthodox Church which has transformed my life for the better but if I had access to the thoughts of men like this I may have remained a protestant. Wonderful insights on display here.
I loved this chat about denominations and the fact that the importance is orthodoxy. After a very long gap between church attendance, I had a decision to make about church. Confirmed CofE however had a powerful revelation in an American Evangelican church and I have an influential Pentecostal. Church Leading family member... I was torn. I've finally reached out to the Free Church of England. My flavour of Christianity is firstly God Adoring, Christ Affirming, Biblical but secondly with a strong streak of Anglican tradition. I think the Lord gave us flavours of church for a reason. Thank our Heavenly Father for His Grace and Mercy... He gave us so many options that are faithful to His Righteousness 🎉🎉🎉
Ancient Future Faith. Love it. Sin is old fashioned and the way to deal with it has NEVER been updated and will never need to be updated. Romans 1:16 Thank you both for being UNASHAMED of the Gospel . It will ever be the power of God unto Salvation. Wonderful to hear about an event that has encouraged you both. God bess you both in your ministries as you encourage and comfort the Body of Christ. I am encouraged.
What a treat!! Rev. Brett and Fr. Calvin❤🎉
I discovered Fr. Calvin through his Oxford speech. I was so uplifted to see such a courageous stand for Christ against the apostasy of the church. It was during the same sex blessing controversy with the AoC that I found Rev. Brett.
It’s paramount that we all examine ourselves and decide who we will serve. Personally, as a Christian in the US, I find myself turning away from modern preaching and embracing the wisdom of men of God from very long ago. JC Ryle’s A Call to Prayer was used so mightily by the Lord to melt this heart of stone.
This was such an encouraging conversation. Thank you both for this.
It is really hard to be young men following the Lord in this day and age. Thank you both for being role models to us young men who want to follow God and His ways.
Its not hard at all, in fact its easier than ever.
@@mikearchibald744 What do you mean by that? The amount of slander and ridicule godly men have to endure at school or work is increasing. Thankfully God is gracious and there is no/little physical persecution, yet.
@oscarfabi_ Not to mention the many sinful temptations that are around us almost everyday now.
@@oscarfabi_ No, the physical violence has been mostly aimed at trans people.
But the fact you say 'godly men', the fact that you EQUATE these men with god shows where your clear bias is. You don't say 'christian men' or even 'moral men', but 'GODLY men', which frankly is an abomination.
You go to work, you see injustice, there are now far more venues to take action than ANY time in history.
What YOU mean by 'godly men' most people mean by 'pricks'. So you go to work, the company says it is developing policies so that gay people feel safe at work, I highly suspect your 'godly man' reject such notions and their view is that 'as godly men we need to be able to constantly tell these people they are going ot hell'.
I SUSPECT you are equating 'godly men' with 'the traditional patriarchy', which I would argue is the OPPOSITE of a christian man, though I'd NEVER use the term 'godly men' as thats blasphemous, it was blasphemous even when Paul used it, its far worse now.
Being morally righteaous now has more avenues for expression than ever before. There is NOTHING confusing about not being a prick. Toxic masculinity is now defined far better then ever, and doing the 'moral thing' is often argued by christians as being 'the christian thing', with some saying morality COMES from god, which means de facto t hat being moral is doing gods work even if god isn't in the conversation.
In VERY few conversations does religion even come up, so I suspect your 'godly man' simply DEMANDS that he be given a soapbox and a place from which to cast judgement on all 'sinners' they see. Again, thats what the rest of the world calls 'pricks'. Its hardly the case that christianity and the tenets of it are not known to pretty much EVERYBODY, so there is simply NO need for such a soapbox.
@@oscarfabi_ It's getting harder to be any kind of man, esp. a Godly man. God bless you. There are quite a few women that see how men are under attack, and any type of male authority or leadership.
Roman Catholic in Florida that supports your efforts, God bless the both of you.
God bless you. Please continue to pray for us out in the protestant branch of Christianity. I see your churches are getting infiltrated w/ moral decay too. You don't have women preachers yet, but there's a push and I see pride Masses are a thing, and parishes joining pride marches. It's unsettling to see a church as big and old as the RCC being assaulted by it too. We're all under fire.
You and Calvin Robinson are always the dynamic duo . While not an Anglican myself, I definitely have great respect for not only your beliefs, which I adhere to (see the Apostles Creed) but also your style(s) of worship.
These two guys have both left the C of E , a regular meeting and conversation by both of these God loving individuals would be a good idea moving forward...🙏
Live a Christ-like life everyday.
“Therefore, come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord; do not touch any unclean thing, and I will welcome you.”
2 Corinthians 6.17
So good to see you both together, God has sent you guys here to put things right !!!!! You are doing great X thank you for this video too
I was baptised as a Christian, not a denomination. :)
Amen, Susan.
Great conversation gents, God bless you both and may He bless our Anglican tradition.
I'm not sure Jesus wants us to be followers of traditions!
@@paulinewhite3273. Oh I do so agree with you. Thank you for saying.
@newkingdommedia9434 I discovered your channel when I was searching for instructions about how to use the Book of Common prayer (1662). Your video was very helpful to me as I'm not from a liturgical church.
I probably should have posted this on your channel!
@@User_Happy35 Thank you! I'm glad it was helpful to you.
Amen!
These two are becoming warriors using the full force of the word. The only ones I'm seeing making a stand , but that's a good sturdy platform with plenty of room for others to join in. A new wave of biblical teaching that requires a good handle on politics to combat this rapid rise of corruption inf society. Keep the momentum going 💪
I am a member of the assemblies of God and i love listening to you and agree with you both. I came from an anglican background and love the traditions and believe in Christians coming together. The Lord bless you and your important ministries.
Thank you both for such an insightful and inspiring conversation 🙏🙏😊✝️
Brought up In the Pentecostal Denomination with healing miracles etc manifesting, having a number of ways of worshipping, God then called me t attending an Anglican Church and become a very active member. I love the foundational teaching of the gospel of Jesus. That is our calling - take his gospel to all the world. The true, orthodox gospel. God is using this turbulent time to wake up his followers and bring about a great harvest. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thanking God for both of you 🙏, you have been born for a time like this
Thanks God I'm catholic 🇻🇦☦️👈🏼
I have so much respect for you guys, for standing on the Truth of Christs Word!!!
Praise God Almighty.
May you both be blessed in your kingdom work; for Gods glory.
Much love
From South Africa
Ordinariate here: I pray the office which is 99% the same as the BCP office. I can't tell you how how much this has enriched my faith. The Anglican Way is alive and well in multiple denominations.
Psalm 8 Our Lord Jesus the same yesterday, today, and into the eons. ❤ ☦
Jesus Christ is Lord!
"We need to quit obsessing about ourselves." So true, Father Calvin. Absolutely!
I have recently become a member of our local baptist church after being a life long C of E member. I have been following both of you for quite a while and thank you for you continued spiritual guidance and speaking the biblical truth. ✝️
I too am considering my local Baptist church after a particularly distressing service last Sunday that both twisted Gods word and promoted the woke ideology of today. Really distressing for lots of us.
❤❤❤❤great to see you both together, thank you, this has been useful and strengthening xxx
We’ve lost the call to repentance! Love your voices in these times!! I don’t worship in the Anglican tradition but we do hold the Word in high esteem. Thank you both that you do as well. Bless you both!
As a Presbyterian I completely agree about what you were both saying about how faithful Christians need to be more united, to stop attacking each other, and to stand together against the secular culture that has replaced our once-faithful societies. God bless.
Jeremiah 6.16
Thus says the LORD: Stand at the crossroads, and look, and ask for the ancient paths, where the good way lies; and walk in it, and find rest for your souls. But they said, “We will not walk in it.”
Thanks for reminding us that we still have that choice.
Tradition can teach us a lot of truth we have lost in the One Church. But tradition without God the Holy Spirit can only be a form of Godliness without the power thereof.
two good guys
I have a mixed background of evangelical Anglican, Baptist and for a while what used to be called house church. This conversation brought out the free church element in me!
It's true that divisions within denominations can nowadays be greater than divisions between them when we are talking about genuine believers. The older historic churches have to my mind always been 'mixture' churches, where authentic faith has coexisted with what I call 'religion', the external forms and rites that may be devoid of spiritual reality in the adherents. Centuries of tradition not all of which is compatible with the faith once delivered, and may be antithetical to it.
The current C of E is a right mix up, but if a local church is faithful I wouldn't automatically not go there because much of the leadership is indeed apostate. This is a matter for personal conscience which should be respected.
I honestly don't know if what we currently have is Lloyd-Jones versus John Stott for the second time of asking (as it were!) or not.
Beautiful message🙏 it is indeed the job of the church to bring souls to Christ👐 As a Catholic, i too pray for a united Christian Church
Love, blessings and heartfull appreciation with and to you both - amen 🙏🏽💕
" THIS IS WHAT THE LORD SAYS: (STAND AT THE CROSSROADS AND LOOK; ASK FOR THE ANCIENT PATHS, ASK WHERE THE GOOD WAY IS, AND WALK IN IT, AND YOU
WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS. Jeremiah 6:16
This was the verse that came to me during the church planting conference
❤listening to you’s 2. So much truth & wisdom. I’ve been a member of The Church of Scotland 🏴 for bout 34yrs. My minister is just wonderful & is such a blessing. I get angry 😠 at the things that the pope is saying never mind the Archbishop of Canterbury. I see the Bible Believing ⛪️ in the 🇺🇸 & it’s just wonderful. God bless you’s in your walk with the Lord 🙏🏻
This is what the Lord says, "Stand at the crossroads and look; ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is and walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls..." Jer.6:16
You're both singing my song Brett & Calvin - we must get back to a sense of the sacred and unabashed reverence for the holy. Modernism is responsible for, among other horrors, the current dire over-familiarity with God Almatey!🙄
There is a youth leader in our region who calls the Lord 'big g'. He has no reverence for the Lord 😢
@@archieroo I share your despair. Sadly, that's the kind of contempt familiarity breeds in our churches today, but one day they'll stand & tremble before a holy, righteous God....🙏
As a recently reverted and orthodox Roman Catholic I feel a great fellow feeling with you guys. It is certainly true that the RC hierarchy in the UK is burying its head in the sands and we have a terrible pontiff at the moment. However I still feel this is the mother church which has not gone apostate and is not democratic. If only we had more people like you in it. Homeless Anglicans should at least check out their local Ordinariate mission. I know Calvin hasn't had a great experience with the Ordinariate but it still contains many orthodox non woke types and the liturgy, much of it based on the BCP, is beautiful and inspiring.
We love you guys! St Aidan’s Kansas City MO 🎉
I am baptsed Presbyterian went to Uniting Church of Australia Sunday school when joining the Australian Navy at 17 I left the church as I worked my entire adult life either offshore in Navy or latter offshore Oil and Gas. I am married to my wife who is a Buddhist. I have 2 children both been brought up to know both religion's they were born in Thailand where I spent quiet some time learning Buddhism (Thai Theravada) my children latter went to a Trinity Catholic college high school back in Australia. All 4 of us are now back in Thailand children have completed university have partners and follow Han Buddhism belief's. My wife and I are looking after her mother 93 with Alziemers disease. I have been drawn back to learn more about the Bible and I follow a online Presbyterian service each Sunday and try to do more bible study as I do not watch Thai TV. I also normally watch your service replay when get time. I am surprised how so long after leaving Sunday school and suddenly seeing things in my mother inlaw struggles and my need to cope with how to best help her in daily life brought me to the scripture's.
Agree with your comments about daily contemplation and meditation. It is the way to dwell with the Devine within us! 🙏🏻
May i just suggest that ugliness is a reflection Of the sinners heart.
Beauty in creation, art buildings ,points us to the Creator.
Bless you guys.
I am an Anglican who left the Church of England last Easter and have gone to a Community Church I would become a Roman Catholic except I am nearly 80 years old I don’t think they would want me ,.😄I love you both.xx
My dear friend, I encourage you to go to the nearest Catholic parish and tell the priest that you wish to be recieved into the Catholic Church. (And if, God forbid, you have a problem go to another Catholic priest). I also recommend to you the site 'Catholic Answers'. I will pray for you each day, Glenys. From Australia. Peace be with your spirit
You would also be very welcome at your closest Orthodox Church, a Church where will find a faith which does not change and still preaches just as the Apostles did.
@@PhoebeK The 22 eastern Churches who have returned to the Rock of Peter over the centuries would advise you did not attend on of the many Orthodox churches, but rather a Catholic Church
@@DD-bx8rb 22 is a bit of a large number for those who you say have returned, from the Eastern perspective many of those who you say have returned we view as having schismed from the true Church. I am a practicing Orthodox Christian and while I looked around I became Orthodox because it was the only church which still preached the Gospel as it has been since the time of the Apostles. I will not argue with you as that never works I would just in love suggest you read the fathers east and west and compare the teachings of any church to that before making polemics that a given group is not in the truth.
Brett , this Longtowner stands with you
ACNA Church Richmond, Va.
Rejoice in what both of you are doing!
God bless you and the ACNA
So glad for you both.
Catholic in New York. Love this channel
I keep seeing this older debade, White vs. Wilson, Are Catholics brothers and sisters in the Lord? Well yes, praise God and Amen. I see Catholics and every branch of Christianity in here encouraging and praying for Rev. Brett and the fight to stay true to biblical beliefs in these threads, regularly.
'The Mass should be a taste of Heaven'. Wow, what a great way to put it!
It's literally true if you're Roman Catholic.
We cant build like that anymore... We are a society of instant gratification. Taking a long time to bring things to fruition is no longer a human attribute that is practiced widely. Woman priests and woke idiots hahaha! Thank you for this gentleman! I enjoyed the interview very much!
I'm orthodox Anglican (Church of Ireland), but I live in Norway and attend a conservative Lutheran church (part of the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Norway, formerly the State Church, a church that has decided to emulate Janus by having two faces and allowing a multiplicity of theology, leading to a situation where some churches have yoga, muslim prayer and rainbow mass, wile others are orthodox, conservative, biblical Lutherans, who preach God's truth. Until recently it was also possible for male priests to reserve themselves against having to work with ordaned women). I'd go for a Lutheran Free Church, but the main one is going down the same path. Also they're very low-church, and I'm very High Church. I can only get High Church liturgy at the conservative churches in the Church of Norway, or at a Roman Catholic church (and at the latter I can't recieve Holy Communion). Back in Ireland it was a little easier, with the Church itself being generally conservative, albeit a mite low-church (or middle-church perhaps... no sung liturgy, no bells or smells, and limited vestments, but also no rock concerts either... the worship is still active and God-centred, not a passive 'experience').
I am hoping and praying for a Reformed Episcopal or truly Anglican church here in South Florida.
Boys - wonderul to see two young servants together - but I would suggest that your ministry should also include guiding and introducing new Anglican priests to the faith - as powerful as you are .
You don't realise how led by the Spirit you are. God is moving to bring a new generation of orthodox Anglican priests into the FCE to be trained and ordained from scratch.
God preserves His remnant.
I wish we had your church near us, we are really struggling....
Praying for you its so difficult for orthodox Christians to find safe harbour these days.
The " self " is worshiped today.
Everything grows and is constantly changing, except God.
He remains the same, yesterday, today and forever. He is our redeemer, His steadfast Love.
The growing changing world we live in doesn’t compare to the kingdom of God growing within us. Glory to God
Fellowship with the Lord.
Has there been a time where we were not on the mind and heart of the Father? Such Pure Holy Just Merciful Generous Love. That’s a long time.
One might begin to think that the Lord loves us. Thank you Jesus Victorious Saviour ❤️
Psalm 86:5 (AMP)
For You, O Lord, are good, and ready to forgive [our sins, sending them away, completely letting them go forever and ever]; And abundant in lovingkindness and overflowing in mercy to all those who call upon You.
The only way for the Church to go forth is to go back.
Denomination poll: We came out of UCA Australia quite a few years ago & have been part of home churches with ex-uniting church ministers.
God speed! ☦️☦️☦️
I'm a member of TEC in a solid diocese and parish. We just had our new bishop-- Rt. Rev. Dr. Justin Holcomb-- consecrated back in June and I'm hopful for our area at least.
Does your diocese permit same sex marriages, women priests or homosexual clergy?
In responce to 17:25 the Eastern Orthodox Church is expanding rapidly with new converts from Protestant Evangelicals, Free Church, and many others seeking Truth in the UK.
People are seeking the origins of Christianity which has continued as is was in the early Church.
It is difficult for many, as the theology and ethos is so different from what they know in the Protestantism. But with an open mind,study, and an open heart, so many are finding their home there.
It appears to be a common way forward for those who are tired of seeking and re-creating something 'more orthodox' within the Anglican tradition.
I want to go back to a church circa 1880 , fire and brimstone preachers , no dilution of the word and knowing that your religion is superior to all others . It is no mistake that the more any religion strays from its message, the more it becomes weaker and rudderless. Many young men are turning to Islam now because it is stable , strong and refuses to submit , it is not the answer and while it’s intransigence should be emulated it should be targeted whenever possible as a competitor. The other competitor is the church hierarchy who are godless and must either go and start their own religion of woke or the congregation must leave .
You can come back to the Church which still preaches as the apostles did in AD 80. The Orthodox Church is full of young men as it is one which still practices all the ascetical disciplines of the Church which the Fathers of the Church knew and practices.
I have hope gafcom church takes off for us church of England congregation but it is very difficult as we do not have a gafcom church where we are as the only ones are down south of England we are lost and stuck the only way at this moment is on line for us.If this is not possible, then we have no one to turn to worship god.😢
Every age has its fads, fashions and errors. The book of Acts and St Paul's letters show that the early church was no picnic, it had problems with false teachers and a lot of the garbage we have nowadays. But Christ did promise us that his burden was light, He wouldn't give us more than we could handle and that the gates of hell would never stand against His Church.
I know what you mean but I like to think of the future. I believe that a future will flourish with churches resembling those of the 1880s!
@@philiphumphrey1548 I would have been extremely hard for the early church. We seem to have this myth that it was different back then, but trying to establish the faith w/ the OT and early church writings, which were in sparse supply back then. You'd only have some books or letters, and they were precious. It was just as new age and pagan practices, w/ modern ideas. They had to compete w/ the Jews and Romans for their lives, not just ministry. False teachers were springing up, and there's plenty of early disputes and smaller divisions.
I long for the day when good people are not divided into churches but all belong to the church of Jesus Christ
We all do. It really doesn't matter what our denomination is called, or how old the church professes to be. We are still one body in Christ, as he doesn't see the walls and the signs like we do. When we are all united w/ the Lord, we will have the full unity and oneness that we long for, even those that don't think they need to long for it.
00.42 St Boniface, the English Benedictine monk who held the Catholic Faith.
Love this so much
Du sollst ni ht toten du sollst nich enebrechen du sollst nicht falsches zeugnis reden wider.
Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not commit a crime, Thou shalt not bear false witness.
I am always keen to learn, thanks to Google Translation. Forgive me if the grammar-translation is a bit incorrect.
Seriously, I hope all is well, Rev. Brett It is sad that you both left the CoE when I believe, in my own view, there is a need for both of you within the CoE establishment. Keep up the good work, both you and Calvin, and may God Almighty guide you both with strength and wisdom.
I can't speak for Fr Calvin but having heard his story I think it's safe to say that we were both driven out of the CofE. The establishment is controlled from the top down by powerful and very wicked leftist, modernist forces.
I grew up Methodist, became a Jehovah's witness in my 20s, left that in my 40s and found Christ finally and now go to a pentecostal church. Our pastor has started inviting ministers of other faiths to preach at our church. Our first this weekend was an Anglican minister but it's not a GAFCON church so am very unsure that we should be communing with them. I'm trying to find a biblically strong church nearby and can't find one. How do we find a church that is biblically strong?
That's very sad to hear, praying for you. It takes quite a bit of discernment to find an orthodox church these days. Check their website, look into their teachings etc. A dead giveaway for churches to avoid is if they permit women to be pastors and their views on homosexuality but there can be more subtle lies than that. Many folks are facing the prospects of moving to be near biblical churches now as they're so few and far between.
@@RevBrettMurphy thank you.
What was it like to be a Jehovah's Witness all those years? They are very studied and devout, but they don't seem to see us as Christians like them. I hear it's extremely hard to leave because the indoctrination and fear is intense, and they think they are the only ones saved who know the truth.
God bless you in your search for a bible teaching church. You might be fine where you are, and may be called to strengthen what remains.
I thought I would have lifelong friends but they would rather cross the road in order not to meet me face to face, it was different to say the least 😂 I didn't find it as hard as some do to leave as I didn't have any family in there with me to make it harder. Imagine if you were say, 3rd generation, grandparents, parents, cousins, brothers and sisters and you wanted to leave. Your whole family would stop talking to you, you're taught that everyone outside is evil, how would you cope and I've heard of so many having committed suicide because they couldn't cope. Horrible mind control methods. I feel great pity for those that are caught up with it still 🥺🥺
Call no man your father upon earth; for one is your Father, which is in heaven: Mathew 23 vs 9
I hope you never called your male parent "Dad" then....you like so many take that verse out of context. 1 Cor 4:15 says Paul was a spiritual father in Christ...was the Apostle then contradicting Jesus? No of course not. Matt 23:9 is referring to placing some human teacher on a pedestal and giving them the same authority as Father God.
Reject sanity and send your money in.
I was riased in my first few years in an Anglican church, was the only church in the village...🤷♂️ anyway, I moved to Baptist and over the years have been to different denominations but am currently in a house church after been hit with the vaccine mandates in the govt influenced...... church and i don't feel right there🤨 (im based in New Zealand)
I think the western church needs to rediscover the doctrine of theosis. Then you have purpose and meaning to life. The way I understand it, is raising ourselves from original sin by the grace of God and the sacraments to our rightful position as God intended in the book of Genesis.
I'm a congregationalist
Interesting comments about the quality of Victorian Architecture - the quality of the design, materials and the build!
You seem to unaware why such building was possible!
At that time Britain was the most powerful nation in the world with an Empire spanning most of the globe.
The Nation became hugely rich by extracting the wealth from her colonies and utilising cheap native labour - your ancestors Calvin!
Sadly that wealth is a thing of the past, so today design, materials and build are constrained by budgets - the gravy train has run dry, but we have have the statements of power, oppression and superiority for all to see in our remaining architecture.
Bloody hell, I can't believe that Brett has just called female priests "dross"!! He has surely grieved the Spirit in this.
1 Timothy 2:12 the Spirit wrote that, defying His Word grieves him.
@@RevBrettMurphy
I agree...
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The way you speak about what the Church, the Mass, and the relationship of the Christian to Christ and the Church (repentance and confession) should be, you sound as though you are recommending going back to the pre-Reformation Catholic Church. Are we where we are because European ‘Christian’ culture turned its back on orthodox Catholicism 500 years ago????
I encourage viewers to go to the nearest Catholic parish and tell the priest that you wish to be recieved into the Catholic Church. (And if, God forbid, you have a problem go to another Catholic priest). I also recommend to them that they the site 'Catholic Answers'. From Australia. Peace be with your spirit
to Kalev & Yoshua, from Rev.3:2 (to the Church at Sardis) - "Wake up, & strengthen what remains (those who are left) & is on the point of death (clinging to faith by their fingernails), for I have not found your works perfect (complete) in the sight of My God (your job's not done yet!)" ... maybe the 'woak' left should make a movie about 'how the west was won' & God can always win it back ... '...revive Your work in the midst of the years!' Hab 3:2 ... Jesus raised Lazarus when he was 4 days dead & stinky! (roster dish washers, based on small but growing (faithful) congregation ...)
I saw an interview on the Matt Whitman channel: Heartfelt Interview About Anglican Beliefs and the Difficulties of Faith. It is a middle or low Anglican branch in the States. The pastor was a solid bible believer and strong in his theology, though his branch had women preachers. He didn't defend or deny it, he was strengthening what remained. Matt is an ex pastor himself and from his seeing all different churches, he had found himself demoralized by some very liberal churches that are just empty shells, that don't believe the fundamentals of Christianity anymore, and even necessarily that Jesus is the risen Lord and part of the Godhead. Matt had mentioned this in a previous video, that this pastor really renewed his spirit and filled his cup again.
I'm not plugging for liberal churches and lady pastors. Just agreeing w/ how sometimes we have to strengthen that which remains.
Brett, please dont get bogged down with all this stuff about denominations! Like another commentator, uncomfortable about all this ' Father' language and the crucifix. Please, please dont depart from your gentle ways and the simplicity of loving Jesus.
Agree. It’s such a shame with these two gentlemen who speak so much truth. Calvin just doesn’t look his same self with the dog collar either. These clothes are important to them I think, but authority does not come from these clothes. Also, what is with the crucifix there - Jesus rose again! But I do applaud them for speaking out the way they are.
I've always worn my clerical (not dog that's insulting) collar as a public witness. Likewise I have both crucifixes and empty crosses in my study. Having a crucifix doesn't deny Jesus rose again, it merely poignantly reminds us that he died to take away our sins as the atonement.
The future of Anglicanism is Eastern Orthodoxy. Ridding yourself of the heresy of Rome should mean you return to the original church. Not set up a new church.
Modern utilitarian architecture has a very Soviet vibe to me.
Me too, it's uninspiring and droll.
Please remember that some of your loyal listeners are living in Hong Kong; now many denominations, including our own Anglican Province is struggling with the influence of CCP control and influence in local dioceses. The structure of local churches may have to resort to more of an informal house church structure. Please do not assume all Christians overseas have the same struggles or issues you face in Europe, Australia and NZ or North American Anglicans/Episcopal Ians. Thank you!
You speak of the division of the various interpretations of Christianity, and how they should all pull together, yet you both have not been able to find alignment with your chosen church.
The Catholic/Anglican Church (no difference of course) which you espouse was strong because they had control of public life, and were backed by the establishment.
Do we want to return to tyranny or have freedom of choice?
I do admire Calvin Robinson for his ability to articulate the truth, but beware Brett; for he is developing an air of superiority and a sense of justified eminence as a spokesperson for orthodox Anglicanism even though he has yet to be ordained as a priest/presbyter. He seriously needs to reflect further on his own warning at 4.01: 'It's idolatry of the self...it's all about making God of ourselves'.
There is only one Church since Christ only has one body. There is a direct link between the contemporary Church and the Orthodox Christians who first came to these islands. We should remain close to our Orthodox origins and do not need to be Eastern Orthodox. We don’t need to be Tractarian. It’s about avoiding innovations and daily picking up our crosses. It’s all in the Book of Common Prayer. Pray without ceasing.
Why do it hald heatedly and only return to the reformation? when the Orthodox Church is alive and well in the UK and very welcoming to anyone who wants to come and see.
@@PhoebeK the aim of the English Reformers was to return to the teachings of the early Church - and presented in the Nicene Creed. The BCP is based on ancient liturgy. We need to attend a Church that is orthodox in theology and loves Jesus - such as traditional Anglicanism.
@@adrianthomas1473 Have you read the 39 articles? These distinctly state that the churches of Antioch, Alexandria and Jerusalem are in error, and subscribe to a number of other Protestant doctrine antithetical to the Orthodox faith which would not be recognised by the British saints of the first millennium. While yes the reformers did the right thing in ascribing to the Nicean creed there is a denial of many other ancient practices along with a failure to unite with the ongoing apostolic succession of the Orthodox Church.
I know where you are I went through that stage but as I learnt more about the early British saints the more I understood that they would not recognise most of the modern church practices as they differ from those they knew.
All I can say is come, see and experience as Orthodoxy is a faith of understanding yes but more so one of encounter.
@@PhoebeK Thank you for your thoughtful response. The English reformers knew the early Church Fathers well - as did John Wesley. There is a direct link in these isles to the Orthodox missionaries - and the essential thing is for all Christians to follow the Orthodox Faith which is the united faith before the schism. Churches that follow the traditional Faith can be Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Anglican, Methodist and the centre is the risen Christ. Those in the West do not have to become Eastern Orthodox. We don’t have to join a Russian or Greek or Romanian church. We follow Christ and He only has one body made up of those united to Him.
Enjoyed your stimulating conversation. Why Germany, though? Germany is the new center of gravity for orthodox Anglicans? 😏 In England you would be hunted down as fugitives from the Archbishops?
The Reformed Episcopal Church in the USA has a summer camp in Germany and it seemed good to bring together REC planters from across Europe while we had the best minds from America to teach and guide us
@@RevBrettMurphy Thank you! Or Danke, Sehr Gut.
I wonder, would Jesus have been considered woke in his day? I suspect he was!
There is a danger of slipping into 'performative reaction', as shallow and self-indulgent as the 'performative radicalism' of the Left. The whole point of Anglicanism is that it does embrace 'modernity'; it defined itself against the modernity-rejecting, obscurantism of counter-reformation Roman Catholicism. Modernity started in 1517, not 1968. To reject modernity in toto means rejecting the Reformation, the Gothic Revival, even the Victorian sewage works which Calvin praises for their beauty. Victorian sewage works are a product of modern science, germ theory, epidemiology - and also of parliamentary government and bureaucratic organisation (no Metropolitan Management Act, no Metropolitan Board of Works, no sewage system). If you are going to rail against 'modernity', it is important to define your terms better. I think what you are actually against is 'modernism', which is a very different thing.
Rev. Brett. I am offended that your guest uses the title Father. I am offended to see you chat in front of a crucifix, not an empty cross. Please follow the Holy Bible, not traditions, and may God bless your work in His name. Amen.
I hear and understand your offence. I was raised to despise clerical collars (in fact all clerical garb), crucifixes, and the use of the title "Father" by some clergy, among other things. After nearly 35 years of ministry I have seen, at times, that my views were offensive to others. I realise that my traditions are very different from those of Anglican and Catholic clergy and I still struggle to accept these things, BUT:
As I have had to do, I urge you to look beyond those points of difference and offence, and to listen to the words of Christly wisdom in their message. You probably won't agree with all they have to say, but you will be blessed and challenged along the way. If you have not already done so, I strongly encourage you to search on TH-cam for Calvin Robinson Debate - his speech at the Oxford Union on why Christians should not support same sex marriage. I suspect you might be blessed by it as many others have been.
One thing that we cannot deny about Brett and Calvin, is that they both love the Lord and seek to glorify His name in all they do and say. God bless you and them.
Hi, I agree with you and find it sad that Brett seems to be swopping one set of traditions for another set of traditions. Calvin seems to me to be Roman Catholic. I am 70 and for much of my journey I've left traditional religion. I have benefitted from the teaching of Derek Prince, who was a great man of God who was infact non denominational. I believe we need to be closely linked with Israel and praying for the peace of Jerusalem...........I don't hear either of these men speak about Israel.
@@paulinewhite3273 I had just listened to some Derek Prince when Brett's discussion appeared! There are one or two things he taught I'm cautious about, but it is refreshing to hear someone who has studied the bible for himself without having to adhere to the various 'isms' that have plagued church history.
The spiritual warfare angle is much neglected these days (not by our host!) as what is happening in the C of E is not just human rebellion but to my mind must have a demonic element.
This is the priesthood here and it saddens me. It is not biblical, the Lord Jesus is our great high priest and we are a royal priesthood. They are lovely men in many ways but this site is not for me after all. Yes, sounds like Calvin is Roman Catholic or at least Anglo-Anglican.
You're offended by the title "Father" then you'd better speak to the Apostle St Paul who described himself as a father in Christ (1 Cor 4:15). As for being offended by a crucifix....I'll pray for you! Being reminded of the atonement and propitiation of Christ's death is nothing to be offended over for a Christian.
Also we have in our deanery ladies who have been ordained and serve without stipend in an area where a paid vicar has too many churches to cover. These two guys would just invalidate their ministries and send them to make the tea. And I don't believe that Catholicism, towards which Calvin clearly gravitates, is anything like a "Biblical church". I wouldn't attend a church under their ministries.
Women have a huge amount of wonderful ministry to offer the church far more than just "making tea" but being a priestess isn't permitted by God. You rather prove the point of the video, you prefer secular modernity (feminism) over biblical tradition (complimentarian gender roles). My wife is an excellent example of this, she thrives in keeping our home, caring for our children and having a servant hearted ministry at church and is very blessed in all she does.
@@RevBrettMurphy Actually being a priest isn't "permitted by God" for anyone in the New Testament, you won't see a single reference to any set-apart ordained priesthood and I think evangelical Anglicans quietly know this. Now I'm prepared to put up with what I consider to be a minor heresy because I don't want the job and I think God has still called me to an Anglican church, it's not "feminism" it's using the gifts God has given to all his people. "Blessing" bread and wine isn't a gift of the Sprit but I recognise that we need ministers of some kind for counselling and leadership (and preaching is quite minimal) so at least Anglican ministers have to have some kind of training - but what is there a woman can't comprehend or do or say?? At least your taste in beer is sound.
Sunday service is absolutely nowhere in those Scriptures...
Wrong. Jesus Rose on the Sunday (the first day of the week) and Christians began worshipping Him on that day since the earliest times of the church (Acts 20:7, 1 Cor 16:2).
@@RevBrettMurphy Jesus does not care weather He rose on that day, He did not command the Sabbath to be changed, He did not command Sunday Service. What you just said has nothing to do with the changes that the church made - directly against the very handwriting of God...
@@RevBrettMurphy "12And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 13Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you. 14Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. 15Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. 16Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. 17It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed."
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@@RevBrettMurphy Jesus kept the Sabbath. Jesus kept those feast days. The Acts church kept the Sabbath. The Acts church kept those feast days... None of them started Sunday Service...
Why is it that brother Calvin and Brett you profess to believe in truth as it is in the Scriptures and even identify yourselves with the remnants of the true religion of Christ, yet you do just the opposite???
You both portray yourselves as those "...earnestly contend(ing) for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints." Jude 3 , yet you blatantly teach and practice the opposite of the Scriptures. Didn't you read where Jesus said, "And why call ye Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not the things which I say?"Luke 6:46.
Brother Calvin why do you assume the title 'Father' on matters of worship? Have you not read Matthew 23:9 Jesus saying, "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."
Similarly, brother Brett claims the appellation Reverend. Brother Brett did you miss Psalms 111:9 "He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name."
As both of you would be aware, the Bible defines blasphemy as "being a man, makest thyself God." Read John 10:33 "The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
Clearly, you must never, in any manner, treat in vein the titles or appellations of the deity. To do so is to break the 3rd commandment in the decalogue.
Being theologians, I don't think you need reminding, but for the sake of your audience I once again cite the scriptures: "Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain." Exodus 20:7
In like manner, you teach your adherents to observe as the Sabbath Sunday the first day of the week in blatant violation of the 4th commandment.
God declares, “To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.” Isaiah 8:20.
We are now living in the last days of earth's history. No wonder Satan employs every possible device to prevent men from obtaining a knowledge of the Bible; for its plain utterances reveal his deceptions.
But thanks be to God. He directs His people to the Scriptures as their safeguard against the influence of false teachers and the delusive power of spirits of darkness.
Brethren, I beseech you in the name of Saviour, please cut off from the religion of Babylon...cut off completely from the catholic church teachings. I have doubt that you know perfectly well that Catholicism is the wine of Babylon. "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." Revelation 18:4
"For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies." Revelation 18:3
Your claims are easily disproven I'm not going to bother doing so here but you can Google the answers but I doubt you will.
I'm not making any claim brother but simply subjecting your statements in this video to the Bible and Bible alone. If I'm wrong brother Brett please show me from the scriptures where I'm wrong. Cite scripture NOT Google.
@@zommusiyiwa3685 I can't be bothered refuting you when I have a busy ministry to run and a church to lead. That's why I said search online for an answer to your query, it's easily to find.
@@RevBrettMurphyIt's a pity you are not bothered to educate us of the truth ....yet you are busy castigating the COE for the same things you are practicing. ....the answers are with you, right there in your titles (Father & Reverend) and also in your messages in that video presentation attacking the decalogue.,... for you know perfectly well that the law of God is immutable, holy, perfect, true and unchanging. Yet you urge people to keep Sunday. Where in the scriptures is it said Sunday is the Sabbath of the Lord Jehovah? Is it not the mark of Papal authority?The last time I checked online, Google was awash with evidence of papal claims that it was the authority that transferred the solemnity of the seventh day Sabbath from Friday sunset to Saturday sunset to the first day of the week, an ordinary day of work that God never made holy, sanctified or made to be hallowed. Brother Brett, as you are a theologian we expect you to know better unless you are wilfully on the side of the arch apostate , the Devil, Satan himself.
A sincere disciple of Christ does not show anger when pointed to the scriptures that rebuke him, rather he delights in the truth?
Please don't be angry with Jesus when says to you "If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 14:15. He granted you the facilities for the gospel work, He endowed you with the intellect and other capacities to draw many to the cross. So, will you not do His will....will you not keep and teach the true Sabbath not the spurious papal sabbath Sunday?
Brett my brother I urge you by the grace of God, please choose ye this day to worship Christ not the papal God. Then, like Peter you will obey God rather than men. Acts 5:29 and like David, delight to do His will for His law will be written in your heart Psalm 40:8. And great peace will you have and nothing will offend you as it is said in Psalms 119: 165.
@@zommusiyiwa3685 You clearly haven't actually listened to any of my critiques of the CofE. I critique them because they are apostates who approve same-sex blessings and women's ordination, I oppose those things strongly. You're just making yourself look silly now.
Wow, how disrespectful of Women preachers! It’s common knowledge women were among his disciples and teachers!
Sadly Institutionalised Christianity changed Jesus teaching and created their own dogma and narrative.
The mass, Calvin, the mass? Please don’t call Communion or the Lord’s Table that. I think you are Catholic which is a works-based ‘gospel’.
He is an Anglo-Catholic (crypto-papist)
I humbly correct you, the Catholic Church does not teach a "works based Gospel". That is propoganda from those who wish to keep their jobs as Protestant diviners. What the Catholic Church ACTUALLY teaches is that Grace saves us. Nothing earns this Grace, especially the works of the Old Law. (The works of the Old Law is what St Paul condemned). We respond to this free gift of Grace in faith and works. Works are essential! Faith-Alone was never taught by Christ and the Apostles: “‘Not everyone who says to me, “Lord, Lord,” shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven’” (Matt. 7:21). “For he will render every man according to his works . . .” (Rom. 2:6-8). “For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified” (Rom. 2:13).
Lovely men but do not agree with calling them ‘Reverend’ and especially Father. Why ‘Father’ ? The Bible says, Call no man Father - and it does sound rather Roman Catholic. Don’t like all the garb either, especially the dog collars. I do realise it’s all to do with Anglicanism.
Jesus is not forbidding us to call men “fathers” who actually are such-either literally or spiritually. He is warning people against inaccurately attributing fatherhood-or a particular kind or degree of fatherhood-to those who do not have it.
The New Testament is filled with examples of and references to spiritual father-son and father-child relationships.
Perhaps the most pointed New Testament reference to the theology of the spiritual fatherhood of priests is Paul’s statement, “I do not write this to make you ashamed, but to admonish you as my beloved children. For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel” (1 Cor. 4:14-15).
In fact, John also addresses men in his congregations as “fathers” (1 John 2:13-14).
By referring to these people as their spiritual sons and spiritual children, Peter, Paul, and John imply their own roles as spiritual fathers. Since the Bible frequently speaks of this spiritual fatherhood, we Catholics acknowledge it and follow the custom of the apostles by calling priests “father.” Failure to acknowledge this is a failure to recognize and honor a great gift God has bestowed on the Church: the spiritual fatherhood of the priesthood.
By your exegetical model we ought never call our male parents "Dad" then. Jesus isn't saying literally never call anyone father, he's making a point about the spiritual authority of men who claim to speak for God. Paul describes himself as a father in Christ in 1 Corinthians!
@@RevBrettMurphy Not sure why you replied to my comment this way as it would appear we agree. That aside, those who claim "calling a priest "father" is un-Biblical" is yet another example which highlights Sola Scriptura (Prima Scriptura for those in denial) as a failed practice. Each reader claims the "right interpretation" whilst arriving at different and opposing doctrinal conclusions. Christ would never ordain such a practice for arriving at the truth He guarantees.
Catholicism is at odds with Biblical Christianity. The two are incompatible.
Absolutely.
My dear friend, you do not understand what the Catholic Church ACTUALLY teaches. The Scriptures come from the Church. I recommend to you the site 'Catholic Answers'. Peace be with your spirit
As a woman, I find the EXCLUSIVITY of the male-only priesthood mind-set a major hassle. (2000 years ago, priestesses were serving in pagan temples.) THEN a male-only priesthood was logical because of the physical dangers involved in travel and proclaiming the Gospel, but, today, - why waste the brains and compassion of 50%+ of the population? Here in South Africa, (the Global South) we have a minority of women priests, serving in parishes, and they feel they were called by Jesus to do so.
Given equal standards of psychology, personality, morals, and education, why should gender be the deciding factor?
(In case you are wondering, no, I would never make a good priest myself. I won't apply.)
I suspect you are going to be surprised, one day in heaven, to find how many women have been called by Jesus, and validly ordained, to serve Him AS PRIESTS.
"Given equal standards of psychology, personality, morals, and education, why should gender be the deciding factor?"
Because the apostle Paul speaking under inspiration of the Spirit made such a limitation, basing it on creation rather than the culture of his day. The OT priesthood was male, and to the extent NT leaders carry on with this in the form of pastors/elders they are male. There are no priests offering sacrifices or mediating between man and God any more, this concept of priest has ended.
On the other hand, the whole people of God is a holy priesthood, so male and female may have ministries and gifts - praying and prophesying as the Spirit is poured out on all. This latter truth should not be used to negate the former restriction though.
As a woman you need to submit to God and His word where he forbades female pastors. The length many women go to to justify ignoring the Bible's teaching on this is sad and shows how low their view of scripture is. God's word is unchanging, you act as though when the Holy Spirit inspired the Bible he didn't know that in the future feminism would exist and thus you limit God to a tiny box of your own making.
Fr. Calvin meets Rolf Harris.😂😂😂
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Watch GB news?? Seriously?? Unbelievable
It's really good. Still need to filter it but so helpful especially in a day and age where mainstream news is so false.
It's better that the BBC that's for sure