In come all of the angry Harry and hermione shippers just like you said Morgan😂 those saying the dance scene is not meant to be romantic, look at 3:21 again...they literally look into each other’s eyes and you can see the chemistry and the longing to kiss each other. The dance might have started out friendly but by the end, there is no doubt that it’s romantic, friends don’t look at each other like that. It was thrown in to please harry and hermione shippers which is truly awful
Couldn’t have said it better myself. And if you want further proof, here's Emma Watson talking about how it was meant to be romantic th-cam.com/video/kgPomUWomG0/w-d-xo.html
Also there was just no point in adding it, it wasn’t in the book so why waste time that could have been used for actual good scenes that they cut? The Dursley’s, kreachers tale, etc
I wish they had put in Ron and Harry's hug after Ron returns. In the book Harry was estatic that Ron returned but in the movies it just seemed like he didn't care. Ron and Harry's bromance is everything!!! Awesome vid!!!!
So do I, but that would have required the filmmakers to actually follow the books and put emphasis on Harry and Ron's bond instead of making everything about Hermione.
The movie cut so many great Ron & Hermione moments. - Ron comforting Hermione after she told him she erased herself from her parents memories - Ron and Hermione dancing at Bill & Fleur’s wedding - Ron shoving Hermione out the way when Death Eaters attack them in the cafe - Hermione comforting an upset Ron at Grimmauld Place when they find out the Weasley’s are being watched - Ron saying to Hermione she could pretend to be Ron’s cousin so the Death Eaters wouldn’t know she was muggle-born - Ron screaming and sobbing Hermione’s name at Malfoy Manor and him pulling her out from under the chandelier when it fell.
You saved the most important moment IMO for last. I was absolutely SHOOK when reading the part where Ron went berserk as Hermione was getting tortured by Bella (Trixy if her sister's name is Cissy? Belly?).
@@francheskajulien8799 Okay I can understand her with Harry... With Draco??? Wtf is wrong with Dramiome people??🙄🙄 Why people are seeing Emma Watson and Tom Felton in Hermione and Draco, respectively?? why they're seeing the actors , and not the character How can Hermione have even a spark between Draco , who used to call her *mudblood* , which is literally an abuse in Magic World. He even dislike to talk to her whenever she angrily reply to her bullying. He even wanted her to die in Chamber of Secrets People will say that he don't like the torture Bellatrix was giving to Hermione in deathly hallows. Just because he's disliking the torture doesn't mean he likes Hermione. He was fearful of the seeing the torture. If Luna for example was tortured the same way as Hermione was , he would've feel the same fear too. It doesn't mean he would like Luna. Yeah I accept that he would grown after that and started respecting Muggle born wizards. But that doesn't imply that he would've started loving Hermione Ron will always be a billion times better than Draco for Hermione. I can understand Harry with her , but never Draco... People saying Draco with Hermione, are either clearly not seeing the character and seeing the Actors in them Or They are very stupid to understand relationship
@@abhijeetkumar9435 It is the actors job to sell the relationships. Obviously Emma was more attracted to Daniel and Tom, its not her fault but chemistry is hard to fake
also can we talk about the fact that during the scene of harry and Hermione dancing, in the books harry is actually looking at the marauders map for ginny and Hermione is crying about Ron???? like where was that.
Hermione wasn't crying for Ron the full time, she stopped after a day or so. She only cried when she thought Harry was asleep, and Harry looked at the map when he took the watch. They were quite normal otherwise, except for the fact that they didn't use Ron's name.
@@thelegend1801 well harry says in the book to ron that she cried for atleast a week. He said that he suspected that she had cried even more after that but she just didn't want him to know, realizing just how much his absence had cost them. "After you left," he said in a low voice, grateful for the fact that Ron's face was hidden, "she cried for a week. Probably longer, only she didn't want me to see. There were loads of nights when we never even spoke to each other. With you gone..." He could not finish; it was now that Ron was here again that Harry fully realized how much his absence had cost them. -Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Chapter 19 The Silver Doe
Ginny was done dirty in the movie...in the books it's so clear that Harry and Ginny are meant to be together and she's so amazing but in the movie her character is flat
They missed the whole chapter 'Kreachers Tale'. It was so damn interesting. Also they did not show the final battle the way it was in the book. The Harry-Voldy conversation just before the final battle was amazing. Pity they did not show it!
@Emily Luu yeah exactly In d books he died like a normal human which showed that he too was immortal. But in d books he died when ashes flew from his body.
Yes, I loved the final standoff in the books. The ending in the movie left me very unsatisfied. In the book Harry explains everything and then they both get one shot to see if Harry is right or wrong. In the movie Voldemort casts so many spells at Harry and even has him tied up at one point, and then they physically wrestle. And then Harry kills him with nobody even watching and Moldy Voldy disintegrates into tiny pieces of flesh that my wife found super gross instead of dying normally like the human that he actually was. It lasted way too long, was so overdone, and completely missed the point of the standoff as established in the books. And then Harry doesn't even fix his own wand with the elder wand. Ugh, so many problems with it.
Just watched 3 days ago, and I really disappointed they didn't: - show the whole Dursley family scene - Kreacher and Regulus moment - Harry disguise as Barny(?) during Bill & Fleur wedding
@@Fullsendfilosophy Even I really hated seeing all the Death Eaters flying like Voldemort. And they did a pathetic job on Elphias Doge as well, Albus Dumbledore's close friend just running away when he heard about the Death Eaters doesn't make sense. And the way he defended Dumbledore ( at least in the book ) he would more likely be standing up to the Death Eaters.
@@thelegend1801 In the book it doesn't say what he does because Ron Harry and Hermione disapperate. Certainly leaves a bad taste when they do stuff like that.
I dont agree with the last point. Its the second last film and I dont think anyone wanted another person to be playing Harry Potter for an entire segment of the movie, especially for another bit of character development such as understanding Dumbledore's past. After all, It doesnt affect the plot, like, at all.
I wish that they left Dudley´s redemption in the movie because that was my favorite part of the book because, in my opinion, it´s the second-most heartwarming scene in the whole book.
In my opinion it's when Harry sees Lupin, Sirius, James, and Lilly. It almost brought tears to my eyes. And sorry it took me so long answer I was just going through my notifications, I even forgot about this comment.
Any time I watch the dancing scene, I still think it was more of them (Harry and Hermione) trying to "find a little light in the darkness" but that little bit at the end when they looked like they might kiss is what annoyed me. *A lot.* If they had left that romance-ish nonsense out of that scene it would have been okay. Though I agree that they should have cut that scene altogether to have time to put in the scene with Dudley telling Harry "I don't think you're a waste of space" because it was simply beautiful. Even though Dudley's make-up was a bit off in that scene (though good on the actor for staying fit and healthy!) it was such an impactful moment that it's honestly stupid that they didn't include it in the final version/theatrical release. Edit: I still love that hug between Harry and Hagrid after the Battle Of Hogwarts is over, it beautifully and subtly mirrored the hug between them at the end of The Chamber Of Secrets.
A video about Ron & Harry's "bromance" would be good tbh. They had such an amazing friendship in the books. Ron and Hermione might be his bestfriends but let's be real, Ron was the "first" bestfriend. If Harry had to choose between spending time with Ron or Hermione, he would definitely choose Ron. Like in book 4, when he and Ron weren't speaking to each other, he said something along the lines like :"he liked Hermione's company but she wasn't like his bestfriend Ron..." The movies truly didn't do any justice to their friendship. Instead they had Harry and hermione acting as some sort of "golden duo" with their awkward friend Ron hanging there
Here’s the quote from book 4 “You miss him!” said Hermione impatiently “And I know he misses you!” “Miss him, I don’t miss him”. But this was just a downright lie, Harry liked Hermione very much, but she just wasn’t the same as Ron.
The HP movies were great but the books were so much better. And Rowling saying she would have rather paired Harry and Hermione vs Ron makes no sense. It was obvious from the first film that it would be Ron and Hermione why change it? Most of the interpersonal tension through all the books and movies is the attraction between Ron and Hermione.
She didn't even say that, now you Romione shippers are believing that rubbish too? Watch the fucking interview again instead of reading titles off of Google, do you guys not even know how much the media twists reality?!
We should’ve got more of Kreacher and R.A.B’s death. And the scene when Harry, Ron and Hermione listens to the goblins, Dean Thomas and Teddy Tonks talking right outside the tent barrier. And especially the whole “Potterwatch” thing when they’re listening to the radio. That’s some of the best scenes in the book imo so the fact that they left them out really pissed me off!
YES! AND in the movies, EVEN IN THE «mentally torture» MOMENT, they tried to make a fool out of Ron (like with the spiders coming out of the horcrux and the weird face)
Did you ever notice that "Deathly Hallows part 1" has actually got very little to do with the deathly Hallows (I hate how Harry just randomly figures out that the stone is inside the snitch - without us even knowing that the stone was on the ring from part 6)
I really don't know why they cut out Dudley's Redemption. I also wish they put Kreacher's backstory and cut out the Harry and Hermione dance scene. Hermione belongs to Ron and Harry belongs with Ginny. All in all, I agree with everything you said
It was unsatisfying because it was 2 hrs 30 minutes of what was essentially exposition for Part 2. It was naturally incomplete. I still enjoy parts of it, but I'm not likely to sit down and rewatch the whole thing any time soon.
It's not a matter of ship, it's just a matter of showing the intensity and the difficulties that they have to face that are exalted through that scene.
@@jackburns6403 yh, but I also hate the fact that when they filmed the scene, they put Emma and dan in *FREAKING silver body paint* and made them kiss and stuff, apparently rupart was on set laughing his lungs out. It just makes my skin crawl for every reason haha
@@elvishh8036 Yh and they said they were covered with silver paint and HALF nacked!! And they had to take soo many takes cause rupert was laughing and Daniel and Emma were laughing.... Honestly, I dont rlly get the other ships, like draco and Hermione, which is like, rlly dumb and harry and Hermione. Like, cant a person have a best friend that is the opposite gender without being shipped with them. I support Rowling decision!!!
The dance scene is so good though. the two of them having a tiny moment of happiness despite everything, with the reality of the world hitting them as the song ends was such a powerful scene imo. Ive never seen it as them 'almost kissing', rather them locking eyes brings them back to reality.
@@Chickendees789 at 35 minutes and 54 seconds into the video: Conversation between JK Rowling and Steve Kloves (2011) she says "it's just on the edge of... where is this going to topple over into, my god they aren't going to kiss are they? Are they?! ARE THEY?!" meaning that they entertained the idea of having them kiss but the intent was to build the tension to lead the audience to believe that something like that was going to happen but there was never any intent to make harry and hermione become romantically involved with each other
@@YoungPadawan85 The problem is I don't feel the romantic tension between them. Hell for years I didn't even noticed the supposed almost kiss because it is so subtil ( Usually I am very perseptive for nounces) and the look exchanged feels the same for me as OhMyHessNess discribet it. I think the reason why I feel so differentlly about that scene maybe that I can't see Harry and Hermione as anything differently then very close friends.
This film left me a bit sad due to how it treated Kreacher... It's not that I dislike the film, but I find disappointing how such a precious aspect of the book, how Voldemort doesn't pay attention to small details such as house elves, and how some acts of kindness shown by Harry help him correct Sirius' mistakes is ignored... I don't know, it left a weird taste in my mouth...
I definitely like part 2 better but I LOVED the Malfoy Manor scene. I think it rly captured how much Ron feels for Hermione in a romantic way and it was rly RLY cute!!!
i was so pissed that they left out dudley’s redemption and regulus and kreachers story but included a useless two minute dance from harry and hermione.
I noticed that this movie had a lo of moments that only really happened in the books. - Ron and Dobby never actually met, but the dialogue says differently. - The mirror was never introduced in Order of the Phoenix, so it comes out of nowhere. - Bill and Fleur were never introduced as a couple in _HBP_ - Ron talks about the fire-balls in jars that Hermione always makes, even though that only happened in the books, they were introduced in the first one, they were blue, and we never actually saw them in any other scenes throughout the movie itself - The Will of Sirius was never introduced, so it never establishes that Harry owns Grimmauld place and has become the master of Kreacher. It's because of this that Kreacher answers Harrys questions
I never saw Hermione and Harry dancing as romantic at all. They were both worried and on edge about Ron and were trying to lighten the mood and cheer each other up. They danced the way two siblings or close friends might.
Harry and Hermione should have been the end game theirs no doubts they for one another and they’re both loyal to each other and defend one another til the very end
I've always loved the dancing scene. Yes they may have played into the Harry-Hermione romantic trope slightly too much; however, I've always thought that it perfectly portrayed the idea of trying to find happiness in the darkest of times. It plays as a somber bittersweet moment between two friends who love each other and hope that the momentum can swing their way.
Am I the only one who cringed with the Harry-Hermione dancing scene?It was unbearable to watch and it didn't offer anything to the story unlike the deleted scene with Dudley and Petunia where we see for the first time their good side.A shame it wasn't included in the movie.
I disagree. Its completely normal for humans to have sexual urges with someone they are isolated with. No matter if your best friend (who just ditched you guys) is in love with her. Especially when that girl is Emma Watson. Their lives absolutely suck at the moment and we can't blame them for wanting to escape by enjoying themselves for once
Wormtail not dying isn't nit picking.... it is the worst error in this movie IMO. Peter's moment of mercy and Harry's vindication for saving him in POA
I personally think that the scene where Harry and Hermoine dances was not at all a necessary addition seeing as it makes the audience think that there is romantic tension between the two of them, especially after the lazy character development they gave Ginny, which made me mad because Harry and Ginny are my favourite couple in the series. It would have have made much more sense if they added the scene with Dudley and Harry. The deleted scene with Petunia could also have been a good addition since that would really minimize the hate the Dursleys are given. People who have only seen the movies know nothing about Grindelwald refusing to give away Dumbledore or how Peter Pettigrew was strangled by the arm which was given to him by Lord Voldemort, which takes us back to the conversation Dumbledore had with Harry during the events of the Prisoner of Azkaban. Some scenes were really well done like the Battle of the Seven Potters and the scene with Xenophilius Lovegood. But that doesnt give the audience who already read the books the satisfaction. Apart from that,great work on the video and eagerly waiting for your upcoming movie essays of the rest of the movies. ☺ Edit: I forgot to add one thing which is the chapter "Kreacher's tale" was not to be excluded from the movie.
This is personally my favorite HP movie. I just love how dreary it is and emotional. Harry losing hedwig and dobby was really sad and the movie ends on a beautiful/emotional note. Just love the shift in seriousness it has from the others.
I'm not a harry and hermione shipper but I like the dancing scene. It seemed completely platonic and did not end in an almost kiss but the sadness of everything happening.
I agree. That's how I see it too. None of them is truely leaning in for a kiss not even 5% or so. I see the long look between them differently as if they see each other's sadness and lonelyness that is still their.
I hate when they add the dance between Harry and Hermione such a waste. We could have more information about Sirius brother Regulas Black and Kreacher Also during the Hermione torture scene. Ron said Hermione loudly in the books and going ballistic, but instead being calm in the movies which it’s destroys Ron’s character The producer Steve Kloves (or Gloeves I might misspelled it) loves Hermione and given her all the Ron lines to Hermione and He prefers Harry and Hermione over Hermione and Ron. Which it’s wrong. Have he read the books?!
I saw the scene as 2 friends goofily dancing together to try to cheer each other up and I think when they looked at each other at the end of the song it wasn’t romantic at all it was just they came back to the dark life that they are living which made Hermione sad and depressed with what’s happening and Ron not being there.
I never thought Harry and Hermione were thinking of kissing. They just looked at each other. It wasn’t romantic. They’re just friends. I think people are seeing what they want to see.
Well I heard that because Wormtail strangled himself due to Voldemort having control over the hand he gave him, his death would be too graphic for a PG-13 rating. However I think Snape's death was possibly equally as disturbing being bitten by a venomous snake.
#1 Nagini is a constrictor and not venomous to begin with but apparently Jo didn't know that (or care.) Second, they showed the snake attacking Arthur, the missing witch and Harry, so Wormtail's death couldn't been shown by having the hand go to his throat the rest of the scene from behind with Harry and Ron trying to save him.
Personally, I really like the hero's journey cutting off half way. For me, it keeps the suspense and longing for the next movie. The feeling of it being unsatisfying really makes me excited for the next movie to complete the journey.
I'm so happy you talked about the Harry and Hermione dancing scene afterRonn leaves. I hate it when they add something that's not in the books.. That scene makes no sense that's one of the reasons people ship Harmione (no offense to people who ship Harmione. It's just my opinion)
They ship it only bc they find dan and emma hot lmfao, same thing with dramione shippers. There's NOTHING from the source material (the BOOKS) that suggest anything romantic between these characters
Um the deleted scene in dh 2 where Draco runs to harry and throws his wand to him and Harry uses it to confringo nagini was sooo sure drarry shippers where y’all at??!
I wouldn't mind the Harry and Hermione dance scene if the Kreacher scene was in there as well and the dance was less romantic. BUT HONESTLY WHY DIDN'T THEY INCLUDE THE GRINDEWALD REDEMPTION OR THE DURSLEY REDEMPTION. Honestly though I would trade the Harry and Hermione dance scene for Vernon and Petunia apologizing to Harry any day.
Honestly, I think the entire 'camping trip' segment in the movie was awful, beginning with Ron's watered-down splinching wound (which was FAR more horrifying than the movie let on) and ending with the underwhelming reunion between the trio. The movie made it clear that Ron's presence in the tent was not necessary. The fight sequence was horrible- it made it seem like Ron was only jealous, and that he was the only one having doubts. It also took down all the sharp words Harry threw his way. In addition, it was clear Hermione and Harry were having a splendid time by themselves- dancing together and visiting Godric's Hollow. The amount of times the two glared, like, straight up hatefully GLARED at Ron was one too many. God. The movies really do hate Ron, don't they?
I’ve been waiting for this FOREVER!!!! I always wanted to know your thoughts about Harry and Hermione, and I kind of always knew you preferred the canon ships. I would just like to say JK didn’t actually regret pairing Ron and Hermione, but she did say that they would probably need counselling at some point. She also said that Ginny is perfect for Harry. If we look at all the other ships in the fandom, Harry and Hermione doesn’t seem like a bad idea. However I freaking hate how the movies destroy Ron and Ginny and try to push Harry and Hermione together and nearly ruining Harry Potter for me. I love how you addressed this in a way that would shut ‘em up.
My favorite part of the me is when Dobby is saying his speech and Bellatrix, the most bloodthirsty and dangerous Death Eater outside Voldemort, politely listen and lets Dobby speak and tell her off, and then she throws her knife…
I think you left out one major reason why DH1 is so unsatisfying: The mess-up of the plot in HBP! Like you said in your previous video essay, they droped so many of these voldemort memories of the book, that it had go wrong in this movie. In both DH movies Harry just "feels" which items are horcruxes whilst in the books the trio completed the mission Dumbeldore started with Harry by putting all the clues of the memories together. In the book all the camping, the breaking into gringrotts etc make much more sense and take the reader with on the journey to solve the horcrux mystery. We know exactly WHY they are on their journey even it is a long and difficult one. But at least there is tension in the first half of the book. In the movie the audience think "Why are they wasting so much time when harry might just know/feel where the horcruxes are?" I think that's why especially the first Deathly Hallows movie feels just like a pointless roadmovie. On top of that - like you said - the payoff of this journey comes not until the second DH.
I am NOT a Harry/Hermione shipper but I absolutely love the dancing scene. It was a beautiful moment between friends. Friends can still have awkward tension with each other especially during times of extreme stress. The end of the scene proves that there's nothing more because Hermione walked away and Harry did not pursue. It was a moment of levity for the characters and the audience because up until this point it was all heavy and dramatic. It was a breather and done beautifully. Loved the song choice, that's what really makes the scene. It's so bittersweet.
Here's a theory that would never fly: they should release these "Part one, Part Two" movies back to back, same day. Let people see them on different days if they want, but also offer back to back viewings with an intermission in the middle. The studios would never do this because each new movie means a new marketing campaign that keeps the franchise fresh in people's minds, another opportunity to sell merch, etc.
at that point just make a series, if you _really_ want all the time in the world for character development. either that or make it so each movie has its own satisfying conclusion like infinity war and endgame. sure the two stories are connected but both movies are great on their own.
I do agree with your points on the whole dance sequence, but I do actually really like it. I think I like it because it does represents the whole Dumbledore quote: “Happiness can be even in the darkest of times, if only one remembers to turn on the light.” It showed Harry trying to cheer Hermione up during this hard time, and also trying to bring light upon their own situation.
3:00 Yes! Thank you! When I saw the Harry and Hermione scene in the movie I was like why? In the book it's literally clear cut that Harry and Hermione aren't like that at all. They've never had anything to indicate that they have those kind of feelings towards each other through out the whole series.
The reason why Ron leaving is sad was because he thinks there’s something between Hermione and Harry that isn’t really there, so you feel for them all and want him to come back. But when they put that little romantic moment in it almost makes Ron’s anger justifiable, which it shouldn’t be. Does that make any sense ? Either way I don’t like that scene 😂
Agreed. That's all I ever saw. Was two friends in a horrible situation, both devastated, just trying to experience ONE moment of joy in MONTHS. I never thought it was romantic.
I'm still slightly angry at supercarlinbrothers for their "why Harry and Hermione should be together". Harry isn't with Hermione bc it breaks up main guy isn't with main girl. Hinny is my favorite ship. Ron and Hermione fight so much bc they care. All I can say.
They also said that they like Hermione and Ron together. In that same video actually. Personally, Harry and Hermione would make an awful couple. Harry was the most boring person on the whole book. Ron makes her laugh and step outside her "this is the way it has to be because the book says so" zone. Harry just lets her be. Never a challenge. Sure Ron was mean to her and they didn't speak for almost two whole books but that was Hermione's doing as much as Ron's.
Yeah I really didnt like that carlin bros video either... they only focused on the movies, which I thought was so strange for them bc they used to focus on the books instead. If you are just watching the movies then I can understand why you'd think Harry and Hermione should be together... but it you read the books it's so clearly Ron and Hermione.
@@Xehanort10 funny story. When ppl find out I'm bi they automatically think I have a crush on my best friend bc we are very close. But she's like my sister so yeah.
I still like the dance scene. I just wish it would have ended differently, without that look they give each other. They could have ended the dance with both of them looking at each other with disgust, like, "What are we doing? Voldemort could be killing someone right now, our best friend is gone, and we're dancing..." or at least end the scene with them showing some sign of the fact that they miss Ron.
It’s just so satisfying when u watch a video about a certain topic and the person who is talking about it know exactly what there talking about and gets the point across perfectly. Kudos to u bro love all ur videos 👌👌
I totally agree with everything you said in this video, which is a reason why I always watch both Deathly Hallows one after the other... If I watch only one, and wait some time to finish the story, I feel dissapointed because those elements are not so fresh in my mind anymore
Through out the movies it became totally clear that the movies wanted to show some kind of romantic chemistry between Harry and Hermione. There were many clues and lines in the movies, we haven't in the books. It is not about this unneeded dance scene only, but also about Dumbledore asking Harry if there is something more between him and Hermione or Hermiones Line to Harry: "Maybe we should stay here Harry, grow old..." It's not an accident harrys Line about Hermione, that he sees her as a sister was not added. It was on purpose they didn't include that, because it wouldn't have worked then.
It’s not my favorite movie, but it’s my favorite to watch. And honestly I like the dance scene, because to me the movies makes it clear she chooses Ron, but the dancing helped release the tension and grow their friendship near the end. I really enjoy this watching this movie.
I always feel dissatisfied with the movies of books I love. :( I agree with most your points. While I love that Harry tried to cheer Hermione up with a little dancing, it was too close to a "first kiss" scene. I'm a canon couple person.
I wish they could’ve added how close Voldemort was to getting to Harry and Hermione, which adds that sense of real endangerment and the feeling of a manhunt. Also wish they would’ve mentioned how Voldemorts name had a jinx, because one of the most common questions I see and get regards why Harry, who was adamant about using Voldemorts name, all of a sudden calls him You Know Who.
I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said in this video! I don't know if my son feels the same about it's being his and my thing like you feel about your grandmother, but I hope he does. We both love the whole franchise! He's now 25.
I just read the saga for the second time in my life after a long time and after I was finished, I decided to also see all the films again. Both the Deathly Hallows ones left me so disappointed... and what bugged me the most was how the characters behaved. They didn't even seem friends! They often just awkwardly stood around with a blank face, I found them so lifeless compared to how they were in both the books and the earlier films. It took away all emotion for me and I didn't even cry in the sad parts because I couldn't really get involved. I might be exaggerating a bit, but having just finished the books I had high expectations (I'd already seen the films, I just didn't remember much because I was a lot younger the first time) and I kinda felt... eh. (ps. I don't blame the actors, they've proven themselves to be great in their roles, it must be the way they were written/directed)
Its definitely way everything was written. Just compare Dumbledore from GOF and from OotP. Same actor but it looks like 2 totally different Dumbledores
I don’t „ship“ Harry and Hermione, I think Ron is perfect for her. However the dancing scene was a beautiful scene. It showed the raw friendship those two had, after looking death in the eye multiple times. Yes, I know Emma said they were close to kissing, however she also mentioned that it was due to both being alone and without the person they desire most (Ginny and Ron).
actually i saw an interview and jk really liked Harry and Hermiones scene she said she thinks its what naturally would of happened given the situation they were in they would find comfort in eachothet
I’ve always thought that if they had cut some of the unnecessary stuff (like that stupid dancing scene) out of Part 1 there would have been more screen time to go a bit farther. I think if they had extended Part 1 to where they met Aberforth and left it as a cliffhanger that would have been great, because the Gringotts scene would have added some excitement to the first movie and it would have allowed for more detail in Part 2.
Tbh when I saw the dance scene I was just confused (stupid younger me watched the movies first) I knew Ron and Hermione were supposed to be together and I thought maybe I got it all wrong. After reading the book I am officially infuriated
I agree with that if the gringotts scene had been added to part 1, the movie would've been more exciting, but I think the reason they couldn't do that was because it would have left too little to have a film for part 2. Honestly if they just didnt add any scenes, or with the chase scene in the woods, that didnt need to last five minutes because I mean, they're wizards they have wands and they know hoe to apparate. So if Yates had cut time down for some scenes and not added scenes that weren't in the book, there would have plenty of time to have Kreachers Tale the Dursleys redemption scenes and been able to show and explain Wormtails death in the movie, as well as add a few more details from the book, like you know Grindelwald NOT betraying Dumbledore!!!
I really wish they did put Dudley's redemption and Kreacher's backstory. I also didn't like the part where Harry and Hermione dance scene. Harry belongs to Ginny and Hermione belongs to Ron. All and all i agree with what you said in this video.
In come all of the angry Harry and hermione shippers just like you said Morgan😂 those saying the dance scene is not meant to be romantic, look at 3:21 again...they literally look into each other’s eyes and you can see the chemistry and the longing to kiss each other. The dance might have started out friendly but by the end, there is no doubt that it’s romantic, friends don’t look at each other like that. It was thrown in to please harry and hermione shippers which is truly awful
Couldn’t have said it better myself. And if you want further proof, here's Emma Watson talking about how it was meant to be romantic th-cam.com/video/kgPomUWomG0/w-d-xo.html
Also there was just no point in adding it, it wasn’t in the book so why waste time that could have been used for actual good scenes that they cut? The Dursley’s, kreachers tale, etc
MovieFlame I agree
OK don't get angry but to me it looks like something's going on BTS. If you get what I mean... :cough cough:
Yeah that was so unnecessary to add
I wish they had put in Ron and Harry's hug after Ron returns. In the book Harry was estatic that Ron returned but in the movies it just seemed like he didn't care. Ron and Harry's bromance is everything!!!
Awesome vid!!!!
So do I, but that would have required the filmmakers to actually follow the books and put emphasis on Harry and Ron's bond instead of making everything about Hermione.
AMEN
And never will at all.
Thank you!!! This friendship is higly underrated.
You do realize you said he never fails to disappoint which means he always disappoints you when you watch it.
The movie cut so many great Ron & Hermione moments.
- Ron comforting Hermione after she told him she erased herself from her parents memories
- Ron and Hermione dancing at Bill & Fleur’s wedding
- Ron shoving Hermione out the way when Death Eaters attack them in the cafe
- Hermione comforting an upset Ron at Grimmauld Place when they find out the Weasley’s are being watched
- Ron saying to Hermione she could pretend to be Ron’s cousin so the Death Eaters wouldn’t know she was muggle-born
- Ron screaming and sobbing Hermione’s name at Malfoy Manor and him pulling her out from under the chandelier when it fell.
Hermione she have ended up with Harry or even Draco theirs more chemistry with either one than with ron
You saved the most important moment IMO for last. I was absolutely SHOOK when reading the part where Ron went berserk as Hermione was getting tortured by Bella (Trixy if her sister's name is Cissy? Belly?).
@@francheskajulien8799 sarcasm?
@@francheskajulien8799 Okay I can understand her with Harry...
With Draco???
Wtf is wrong with Dramiome people??🙄🙄
Why people are seeing Emma Watson and Tom Felton in Hermione and Draco, respectively?? why they're seeing the actors , and not the character
How can Hermione have even a spark between Draco , who used to call her *mudblood* , which is literally an abuse in Magic World. He even dislike to talk to her whenever she angrily reply to her bullying. He even wanted her to die in Chamber of Secrets
People will say that he don't like the torture Bellatrix was giving to Hermione in deathly hallows. Just because he's disliking the torture doesn't mean he likes Hermione. He was fearful of the seeing the torture. If Luna for example was tortured the same way as Hermione was , he would've feel the same fear too. It doesn't mean he would like Luna.
Yeah I accept that he would grown after that and started respecting Muggle born wizards. But that doesn't imply that he would've started loving Hermione
Ron will always be a billion times better than Draco for Hermione. I can understand Harry with her , but never Draco...
People saying Draco with Hermione, are either clearly not seeing the character and seeing the Actors in them
Or
They are very stupid to understand relationship
@@abhijeetkumar9435 It is the actors job to sell the relationships. Obviously Emma was more attracted to Daniel and Tom, its not her fault but chemistry is hard to fake
Everyone: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 1
Me: Harry Potter and the Camping Trip
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The biggest truth I've ever heard
ok but can we talk about how perfect the opening scene is
Ikr
Tge ending of the movie is bad it ends with dobby diying
Whaaaaaaat the last movie was perfect and all the movies and there's NOTHING YOU CAN DO
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@@jenshinimpact8801 you right
that opening gave me fucking chills just thinking about it, especially the melody before that symmetrical shot of hermione on the road
Also THEY DIDN'T PUT THE KREACHER SCENE AND R.A.B'S DEATH
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Aikaterini Vasilopoulou IKR
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IKR!
And the letter which harry found. The one lily wrote to Sirius.
IKR! WORST CUT EVER
Kreacher's tale is my favorite chapter. I saw the movies years before reading the books, so when I read that chapter, I was in tears.
also can we talk about the fact that during the scene of harry and Hermione dancing, in the books harry is actually looking at the marauders map for ginny and Hermione is crying about Ron???? like where was that.
Hermione wasn't crying for Ron the full time, she stopped after a day or so. She only cried when she thought Harry was asleep, and Harry looked at the map when he took the watch. They were quite normal otherwise, except for the fact that they didn't use Ron's name.
@@thelegend1801 well harry says in the book to ron that she cried for atleast a week. He said that he suspected that she had cried even more after that but she just didn't want him to know, realizing just how much his absence had cost them.
"After you left," he said in a low voice, grateful for the fact that Ron's face was hidden, "she cried for a week. Probably longer, only she didn't want me to see. There were loads of nights when we never even spoke to each other. With you gone..."
He could not finish; it was now that Ron was here again that Harry fully realized how much his absence had cost them.
-Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Chapter 19 The Silver Doe
Yeah
That dancing scene was very kringy
The dancing actually had me in tears in the theaters, it was a long ride seeing them grow up!
Ginny was done dirty in the movie...in the books it's so clear that Harry and Ginny are meant to be together and she's so amazing but in the movie her character is flat
They missed the whole chapter 'Kreachers Tale'. It was so damn interesting. Also they did not show the final battle the way it was in the book. The Harry-Voldy conversation just before the final battle was amazing. Pity they did not show it!
@Emily Luu yeah exactly
In d books he died like a normal human which showed that he too was immortal. But in d books he died when ashes flew from his body.
Yeah, the final battle gives me chills whenever I read it
Yes, I loved the final standoff in the books. The ending in the movie left me very unsatisfied. In the book Harry explains everything and then they both get one shot to see if Harry is right or wrong. In the movie Voldemort casts so many spells at Harry and even has him tied up at one point, and then they physically wrestle. And then Harry kills him with nobody even watching and Moldy Voldy disintegrates into tiny pieces of flesh that my wife found super gross instead of dying normally like the human that he actually was. It lasted way too long, was so overdone, and completely missed the point of the standoff as established in the books. And then Harry doesn't even fix his own wand with the elder wand. Ugh, so many problems with it.
@@anishagarwal9062*Mortal.
Yeah I agree with u.
Yeah, Harry calling Voldemort "Riddle" was such a powerful moment tbh
Just watched 3 days ago, and I really disappointed they didn't:
- show the whole Dursley family scene
- Kreacher and Regulus moment
- Harry disguise as Barny(?) during Bill & Fleur wedding
I agree with your list. I also hated when all the death eaters are able to fly without a broom through apparation...
@@Fullsendfilosophy Even I really hated seeing all the Death Eaters flying like Voldemort. And they did a pathetic job on Elphias Doge as well, Albus Dumbledore's close friend just running away when he heard about the Death Eaters doesn't make sense. And the way he defended Dumbledore ( at least in the book ) he would more likely be standing up to the Death Eaters.
@@thelegend1801 In the book it doesn't say what he does because Ron Harry and Hermione disapperate. Certainly leaves a bad taste when they do stuff like that.
I dont agree with the last point. Its the second last film and I dont think anyone wanted another person to be playing Harry Potter for an entire segment of the movie, especially for another bit of character development such as understanding Dumbledore's past. After all, It doesnt affect the plot, like, at all.
@Mauricio Ortega Later.
I wish that they left Dudley´s redemption in the movie because that was my favorite part of the book because, in my opinion, it´s the second-most heartwarming scene in the whole book.
@SCXVII I also wanted to ask it
What’s the first
In my opinion it's when Harry sees Lupin, Sirius, James, and Lilly. It almost brought tears to my eyes. And sorry it took me so long answer I was just going through my notifications, I even forgot about this comment.
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Any time I watch the dancing scene, I still think it was more of them (Harry and Hermione) trying to "find a little light in the darkness" but that little bit at the end when they looked like they might kiss is what annoyed me. *A lot.*
If they had left that romance-ish nonsense out of that scene it would have been okay.
Though I agree that they should have cut that scene altogether to have time to put in the scene with Dudley telling Harry "I don't think you're a waste of space" because it was simply beautiful.
Even though Dudley's make-up was a bit off in that scene (though good on the actor for staying fit and healthy!) it was such an impactful moment that it's honestly stupid that they didn't include it in the final version/theatrical release.
Edit:
I still love that hug between Harry and Hagrid after the Battle Of Hogwarts is over, it beautifully and subtly mirrored the hug between them at the end of The Chamber Of Secrets.
I know. The about-kiss annoyed me a lot.
A video about Ron & Harry's "bromance" would be good tbh. They had such an amazing friendship in the books. Ron and Hermione might be his bestfriends but let's be real, Ron was the "first" bestfriend. If Harry had to choose between spending time with Ron or Hermione, he would definitely choose Ron. Like in book 4, when he and Ron weren't speaking to each other, he said something along the lines like :"he liked Hermione's company but she wasn't like his bestfriend Ron..." The movies truly didn't do any justice to their friendship. Instead they had Harry and hermione acting as some sort of "golden duo" with their awkward friend Ron hanging there
I know right??? Harry and Ron's friendship was so shafted in the films
@@scaranvostok3637 Particularly in the later films, Harry is a lot more cold and detached to Ron compared to the books.
Here’s the quote from book 4
“You miss him!” said Hermione impatiently
“And I know he misses you!”
“Miss him, I don’t miss him”.
But this was just a downright lie, Harry liked Hermione very much, but she just wasn’t the same as Ron.
Not at all, Movie Harry and Ron still felt like best friends.
@@stefan4159 Not for the most part he isn't. Maybe at times in deathly hollows part 1...but that's mostly it.
The HP movies were great but the books were so much better. And Rowling saying she would have rather paired Harry and Hermione vs Ron makes no sense. It was obvious from the first film that it would be Ron and Hermione why change it? Most of the interpersonal tension through all the books and movies is the attraction between Ron and Hermione.
It's JK Rowling, you can only take what she says with a grain of salt.
@@simonster-9094 Well then you're to take literally the whole lore and plot of harry potter in its entirety with a grain of salt
She didn't even say that, now you Romione shippers are believing that rubbish too? Watch the fucking interview again instead of reading titles off of Google, do you guys not even know how much the media twists reality?!
@@krettzy3540 He meant not to take JK Rowling nowadays seriously.
@@groot8950 nope
I don't ship anyone for Hermione
Because j.k is awful at writing romance
We should’ve got more of Kreacher and R.A.B’s death. And the scene when Harry, Ron and Hermione listens to the goblins, Dean Thomas and Teddy Tonks talking right outside the tent barrier. And especially the whole “Potterwatch” thing when they’re listening to the radio. That’s some of the best scenes in the book imo so the fact that they left them out really pissed me off!
Exactly!
YES! AND in the movies, EVEN IN THE «mentally torture» MOMENT, they tried to make a fool out of Ron (like with the spiders coming out of the horcrux and the weird face)
Did you ever notice that "Deathly Hallows part 1" has actually got very little to do with the deathly Hallows (I hate how Harry just randomly figures out that the stone is inside the snitch - without us even knowing that the stone was on the ring from part 6)
Felix Oberhuber well i think that deathly hallows part 1 is great, but yeah the snitch thing pissed me off
I loved the "Potterwatch" segment in the books.
Hermione and Harry dancing...that scene...really
TICKED ME OFF!!!!!!!
Literally so awkward...yikes 💀
same, but mostly because the dance is so cringy...
I found it sweet. Not romantic in any way, just a friend trying to cheer up hermione through there tough times
@Tarini Menon you’re way more uncool for judging somebody’s opinion
Exactly it wasn’t in the book i felt so cringe watching it
I really don't know why they cut out Dudley's Redemption. I also wish they put Kreacher's backstory and cut out the Harry and Hermione dance scene. Hermione belongs to Ron and Harry belongs with Ginny. All in all, I agree with everything you said
It was unsatisfying because it was 2 hrs 30 minutes of what was essentially exposition for Part 2. It was naturally incomplete. I still enjoy parts of it, but I'm not likely to sit down and rewatch the whole thing any time soon.
I usually rewatch Part 2 the most
How can anyone think that Goblet of Fire is worse than this one?
Felix Oberhuber he thinks goblet of fire is worse since there was way too many differences between the movie and book
GoF is the WORST movie. The director didn't even read the books. DH Part 1 is the most underrated film. One of my favourites.
@@groot8950 same i LOVE DH1
That dance was so out of place. I never shipped them and i never will.
Same!
Watch the Bryan Seeker video on that dance. It will change your mind. It was not romantic at all and he explains it perfectly
Same! =/=
It's not a matter of ship, it's just a matter of showing the intensity and the difficulties that they have to face that are exalted through that scene.
Same!
The whole locket scene was *SO FREAKING WEIRD* I literally can't watch that bit of the movie because I physically feel ill *god I HATE it*
Then it succeeded at its job of making the viewer feel as uncomfortable as Ron
@@jackburns6403 yh, but I also hate the fact that when they filmed the scene, they put Emma and dan in *FREAKING silver body paint* and made them kiss and stuff, apparently rupart was on set laughing his lungs out. It just makes my skin crawl for every reason haha
@@elvishh8036 Yh and they said they were covered with silver paint and HALF nacked!! And they had to take soo many takes cause rupert was laughing and Daniel and Emma were laughing....
Honestly, I dont rlly get the other ships, like draco and Hermione, which is like, rlly dumb and harry and Hermione. Like, cant a person have a best friend that is the opposite gender without being shipped with them. I support Rowling decision!!!
Ok..
Boba_Tea Robloxx ron is hermione’s other best friend
I've always seen harry and hermione dancing as such a beautiful friendly moment, never even noticed that they almost kissed
Yeah grindlewalds redemption was literally destroyed in the movie
@@Xehanort10 Great job movie, great job.
@@ophie71 ARE U BEING SARCASTIC?
@@Shashankrix 𝘕𝘰, 𝘰𝘧 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘳𝘴𝘦 𝘐 𝘮𝘦𝘢𝘯𝘵 𝘪𝘵 𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺. 𝘏𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘥 𝘮𝘺 𝘯𝘢𝘮𝘦?!?
he said there were 5 fantastic beasts films, but i thought there were only 2? are there fantastic beasts books?
@@hiwottesfa6932 yeah
I heard it had 3 fantastic beasts books
The dance scene is so good though. the two of them having a tiny moment of happiness despite everything, with the reality of the world hitting them as the song ends was such a powerful scene imo. Ive never seen it as them 'almost kissing', rather them locking eyes brings them back to reality.
same, agreed completely
Um there’s a video of the filmmakers saying that they almost kiss.
@@Chickendees789 at 35 minutes and 54 seconds into the video:
Conversation between JK Rowling and Steve Kloves (2011)
she says "it's just on the edge of... where is this going to topple over into, my god they aren't going to kiss are they? Are they?! ARE THEY?!"
meaning that they entertained the idea of having them kiss but the intent was to build the tension to lead the audience to believe that something like that was going to happen but there was never any intent to make harry and hermione become romantically involved with each other
Exactly. That's how it looks to me. I can't see it any differently.
@@YoungPadawan85 The problem is I don't feel the romantic tension between them. Hell for years I didn't even noticed the supposed almost kiss because it is so subtil ( Usually I am very perseptive for nounces) and the look exchanged feels the same for me as OhMyHessNess discribet it. I think the reason why I feel so differentlly about that scene maybe that I can't see Harry and Hermione as anything differently then very close friends.
This film left me a bit sad due to how it treated Kreacher... It's not that I dislike the film, but I find disappointing how such a precious aspect of the book, how Voldemort doesn't pay attention to small details such as house elves, and how some acts of kindness shown by Harry help him correct Sirius' mistakes is ignored... I don't know, it left a weird taste in my mouth...
That’s true, Kreacher’s tale is one of my favorite parts of the book tbh
Yes, it made me sympathise Kreacher
Dudley not thinking he's a waste of space is such an evolution it's despicable to have left it on the cutting room floor
I definitely like part 2 better but I LOVED the Malfoy Manor scene. I think it rly captured how much Ron feels for Hermione in a romantic way and it was rly RLY cute!!!
yeah! he loves her so much he wants her to end up like nevilies parents.
@@fatherdog346 what?
In the books, he was crying and screaming listening to her TORTURE but in the movies he's like I don't care.
@@fatherdog346 WHAT
@@scaranvostok3637
Book Ron: *screams and cries when he hears hermione getting tortured*
Movie Ron: eh whatever
i was so pissed that they left out dudley’s redemption and regulus and kreachers story but included a useless two minute dance from harry and hermione.
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I noticed that this movie had a lo of moments that only really happened in the books.
- Ron and Dobby never actually met, but the dialogue says differently.
- The mirror was never introduced in Order of the Phoenix, so it comes out of nowhere.
- Bill and Fleur were never introduced as a couple in _HBP_
- Ron talks about the fire-balls in jars that Hermione always makes, even though that only happened in the books, they were introduced in the first one, they were blue, and we never actually saw them in any other scenes throughout the movie itself
- The Will of Sirius was never introduced, so it never establishes that Harry owns Grimmauld place and has become the master of Kreacher. It's because of this that Kreacher answers Harrys questions
I’m almost finished rereading the books I just got past Fred dying
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I never saw Hermione and Harry dancing as romantic at all. They were both worried and on edge about Ron and were trying to lighten the mood and cheer each other up. They danced the way two siblings or close friends might.
Harry and Hermione should have been the end game theirs no doubts they for one another and they’re both loyal to each other and defend one another til the very end
Yes, even solemates don't have to be romantic (which they aren't).
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I've always loved the dancing scene. Yes they may have played into the Harry-Hermione romantic trope slightly too much; however, I've always thought that it perfectly portrayed the idea of trying to find happiness in the darkest of times. It plays as a somber bittersweet moment between two friends who love each other and hope that the momentum can swing their way.
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I always wanted Ron and Hermoine to end up together
Same!
Am I the only one who cringed with the Harry-Hermione dancing scene?It was unbearable to watch and it didn't offer anything to the story unlike the deleted scene with Dudley and Petunia where we see for the first time their good side.A shame it wasn't included in the movie.
Me too. Adding things in not original to the source material ruins it
I loved the petunia scene. Really warmed my heart.
Alex Stergiou yes you are
I always skip that scene. It makes me feel awkward.
I disagree. Its completely normal for humans to have sexual urges with someone they are isolated with. No matter if your best friend (who just ditched you guys) is in love with her. Especially when that girl is Emma Watson. Their lives absolutely suck at the moment and we can't blame them for wanting to escape by enjoying themselves for once
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Wormtail not dying isn't nit picking.... it is the worst error in this movie IMO. Peter's moment of mercy and Harry's vindication for saving him in POA
I personally think that the scene where Harry and Hermoine dances was not at all a necessary addition seeing as it makes the audience think that there is romantic tension between the two of them, especially after the lazy character development they gave Ginny, which made me mad because Harry and Ginny are my favourite couple in the series. It would have have made much more sense if they added the scene with Dudley and Harry. The deleted scene with Petunia could also have been a good addition since that would really minimize the hate the Dursleys are given. People who have only seen the movies know nothing about Grindelwald refusing to give away Dumbledore or how Peter Pettigrew was strangled by the arm which was given to him by Lord Voldemort, which takes us back to the conversation Dumbledore had with Harry during the events of the Prisoner of Azkaban. Some scenes were really well done like the Battle of the Seven Potters and the scene with Xenophilius Lovegood. But that doesnt give the audience who already read the books the satisfaction. Apart from that,great work on the video and eagerly waiting for your upcoming movie essays of the rest of the movies. ☺
Edit: I forgot to add one thing which is the chapter "Kreacher's tale" was not to be excluded from the movie.
This is personally my favorite HP movie. I just love how dreary it is and emotional. Harry losing hedwig and dobby was really sad and the movie ends on a beautiful/emotional note. Just love the shift in seriousness it has from the others.
Is it just me or is deathly part 1 just a 2 hour and 30 min film of camping and the occasional action scene
It’s meant to be build-up to Part 2
Celeb Reese yeah but still boring in my eyes. And i feel like it was executed much better in the book. But it is what it is
@@ogbabakush4831 they should have named it Harry Potter and friends go camping.
@@JohnnyStormsBoyfriend Ur right!
No, not exactly, but the "camping and hiking" aspect of the movie was way too long. And boring as hell.
I'm not a harry and hermione shipper but I like the dancing scene. It seemed completely platonic and did not end in an almost kiss but the sadness of everything happening.
Most People say that hermione should be with Harry or even her enemy Draco cause theirs more chemistry their with Harry and Draco than with Ron
I don't like it mainly because the point is they are upset with the absence of Ron. This cheapens his return.
I totally agree and I love that scene so much.
@@hbrg9173 Literally how I felt about it. I just don't like that scene
I agree. That's how I see it too. None of them is truely leaning in for a kiss not even 5% or so. I see the long look between them differently as if they see each other's sadness and lonelyness that is still their.
I hate when they add the dance between Harry and Hermione such a waste. We could have more information about Sirius brother Regulas Black and Kreacher
Also during the Hermione torture scene. Ron said Hermione loudly in the books and going ballistic, but instead being calm in the movies which it’s destroys Ron’s character
The producer Steve Kloves (or Gloeves I might misspelled it) loves Hermione and given her all the Ron lines to Hermione and He prefers Harry and Hermione over Hermione and Ron. Which it’s wrong. Have he read the books?!
Ikr!!!!
Kloves, and please stop treating him like Mike Newell.
@@groot8950 I personally think Goldenburg is better than Kloves
@@arunr1627 He is, but Kloves isn't Mike Newell at least.
@@groot8950 "I read it and the Book is vast a very sort of House Brick Sized thing"
I saw the scene as 2 friends goofily dancing together to try to cheer each other up and I think when they looked at each other at the end of the song it wasn’t romantic at all it was just they came back to the dark life that they are living which made Hermione sad and depressed with what’s happening and Ron not being there.
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I never thought Harry and Hermione were thinking of kissing. They just looked at each other. It wasn’t romantic. They’re just friends. I think people are seeing what they want to see.
What's worse about the Harry and Hermione stuff in this film is that Hermione seriously considers staying with Harry the woods forever
Right? It's so out of character
It was obviously just a bad joke but definitely something Hermione would’ve not said.
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Ikr
I don't get how some people think that Harry and Hermione should be together that is so wrong
They are mainly movie watchers/Weasley haters/ delusional Harmonians
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"i wanna see the story of black and Kreacher, and R.A.B's death"
W.B: *haha dancing time*
Who’s W.B?
also wb: SHAKEY CAM CHASE SCENE
@@sandyku9483 Warner Brothers (I think).
Well I heard that because Wormtail strangled himself due to Voldemort having control over the hand he gave him, his death would be too graphic for a PG-13 rating. However I think Snape's death was possibly equally as disturbing being bitten by a venomous snake.
Just remember that Temple of Doom was PG and still is.
There are tricks for that , snake death was used by being seen outside a blurry window ,
#1 Nagini is a constrictor and not venomous to begin with but apparently Jo didn't know that (or care.) Second, they showed the snake attacking Arthur, the missing witch and Harry, so Wormtail's death couldn't been shown by having the hand go to his throat the rest of the scene from behind with Harry and Ron trying to save him.
Personally, I really like the hero's journey cutting off half way. For me, it keeps the suspense and longing for the next movie. The feeling of it being unsatisfying really makes me excited for the next movie to complete the journey.
I'm so happy you talked about the Harry and Hermione dancing scene afterRonn leaves. I hate it when they add something that's not in the books.. That scene makes no sense that's one of the reasons people ship Harmione (no offense to people who ship Harmione. It's just my opinion)
They ship it only bc they find dan and emma hot lmfao, same thing with dramione shippers. There's NOTHING from the source material (the BOOKS) that suggest anything romantic between these characters
Um the deleted scene in dh 2 where Draco runs to harry and throws his wand to him and Harry uses it to confringo nagini was sooo sure drarry shippers where y’all at??!
@@pxxv5370 IKR finally someone who sees my point of view.
@@asiyahanif6084 that wasn't in the books.
And they removed Romoine dance at Bill and Fleurs wedding 💔💔💔😭😭😭
I wouldn't mind the Harry and Hermione dance scene if the Kreacher scene was in there as well and the dance was less romantic. BUT HONESTLY WHY DIDN'T THEY INCLUDE THE GRINDEWALD REDEMPTION OR THE DURSLEY REDEMPTION.
Honestly though I would trade the Harry and Hermione dance scene for Vernon and Petunia apologizing to Harry any day.
Honestly, I think the entire 'camping trip' segment in the movie was awful, beginning with Ron's watered-down splinching wound (which was FAR more horrifying than the movie let on) and ending with the underwhelming reunion between the trio. The movie made it clear that Ron's presence in the tent was not necessary. The fight sequence was horrible- it made it seem like Ron was only jealous, and that he was the only one having doubts. It also took down all the sharp words Harry threw his way. In addition, it was clear Hermione and Harry were having a splendid time by themselves- dancing together and visiting Godric's Hollow. The amount of times the two glared, like, straight up hatefully GLARED at Ron was one too many. God. The movies really do hate Ron, don't they?
I’ve been waiting for this FOREVER!!!! I always wanted to know your thoughts about Harry and Hermione, and I kind of always knew you preferred the canon ships. I would just like to say JK didn’t actually regret pairing Ron and Hermione, but she did say that they would probably need counselling at some point. She also said that Ginny is perfect for Harry. If we look at all the other ships in the fandom, Harry and Hermione doesn’t seem like a bad idea. However I freaking hate how the movies destroy Ron and Ginny and try to push Harry and Hermione together and nearly ruining Harry Potter for me. I love how you addressed this in a way that would shut ‘em up.
My favorite part of the me is when Dobby is saying his speech and Bellatrix, the most bloodthirsty and dangerous Death Eater outside Voldemort, politely listen and lets Dobby speak and tell her off, and then she throws her knife…
I think you left out one major reason why DH1 is so unsatisfying: The mess-up of the plot in HBP! Like you said in your previous video essay, they droped so many of these voldemort memories of the book, that it had go wrong in this movie. In both DH movies Harry just "feels" which items are horcruxes whilst in the books the trio completed the mission Dumbeldore started with Harry by putting all the clues of the memories together. In the book all the camping, the breaking into gringrotts etc make much more sense and take the reader with on the journey to solve the horcrux mystery. We know exactly WHY they are on their journey even it is a long and difficult one. But at least there is tension in the first half of the book. In the movie the audience think "Why are they wasting so much time when harry might just know/feel where the horcruxes are?" I think that's why especially the first Deathly Hallows movie feels just like a pointless roadmovie. On top of that - like you said - the payoff of this journey comes not until the second DH.
I am NOT a Harry/Hermione shipper but I absolutely love the dancing scene. It was a beautiful moment between friends. Friends can still have awkward tension with each other especially during times of extreme stress. The end of the scene proves that there's nothing more because Hermione walked away and Harry did not pursue. It was a moment of levity for the characters and the audience because up until this point it was all heavy and dramatic. It was a breather and done beautifully. Loved the song choice, that's what really makes the scene. It's so bittersweet.
I clicked on the notification to this while watching p1 because I've been waiting for it 4 so long
I did the same, it's 30 minutes past midnight for me.
Anything for this youtuber!
Here's a theory that would never fly: they should release these "Part one, Part Two" movies back to back, same day. Let people see them on different days if they want, but also offer back to back viewings with an intermission in the middle.
The studios would never do this because each new movie means a new marketing campaign that keeps the franchise fresh in people's minds, another opportunity to sell merch, etc.
at that point just make a series, if you _really_ want all the time in the world for character development. either that or make it so each movie has its own satisfying conclusion like infinity war and endgame. sure the two stories are connected but both movies are great on their own.
as much as I love this movie I always feel like falling asleep in bits of this movie
I do agree with your points on the whole dance sequence, but I do actually really like it. I think I like it because it does represents the whole Dumbledore quote: “Happiness can be even in the darkest of times, if only one remembers to turn on the light.” It showed Harry trying to cheer Hermione up during this hard time, and also trying to bring light upon their own situation.
3:00 Yes! Thank you! When I saw the Harry and Hermione scene in the movie I was like why? In the book it's literally clear cut that Harry and Hermione aren't like that at all. They've never had anything to indicate that they have those kind of feelings towards each other through out the whole series.
The reason why Ron leaving is sad was because he thinks there’s something between Hermione and Harry that isn’t really there, so you feel for them all and want him to come back. But when they put that little romantic moment in it almost makes Ron’s anger justifiable, which it shouldn’t be. Does that make any sense ? Either way I don’t like that scene 😂
I think of the dance scene as a way of Harry cheering up hermione who is very sad about Ron leaving
Agreed. That's all I ever saw. Was two friends in a horrible situation, both devastated, just trying to experience ONE moment of joy in MONTHS. I never thought it was romantic.
Same. I always liked it. They never seemed like anything more than friends. And that's something a friend would do.
Exactly. In fact the seen sometimes brings me almost close to tears also because the song is not happy. It's a song that sounds very melancholic.
I'm still slightly angry at supercarlinbrothers for their "why Harry and Hermione should be together". Harry isn't with Hermione bc it breaks up main guy isn't with main girl. Hinny is my favorite ship. Ron and Hermione fight so much bc they care. All I can say.
I agree!
They also said that they like Hermione and Ron together. In that same video actually. Personally, Harry and Hermione would make an awful couple. Harry was the most boring person on the whole book. Ron makes her laugh and step outside her "this is the way it has to be because the book says so" zone. Harry just lets her be. Never a challenge.
Sure Ron was mean to her and they didn't speak for almost two whole books but that was Hermione's doing as much as Ron's.
Yeah I really didnt like that carlin bros video either... they only focused on the movies, which I thought was so strange for them bc they used to focus on the books instead.
If you are just watching the movies then I can understand why you'd think Harry and Hermione should be together... but it you read the books it's so clearly Ron and Hermione.
These kind of videos are the reason why there's so many delusional harmione shippers out there
@@Xehanort10 funny story. When ppl find out I'm bi they automatically think I have a crush on my best friend bc we are very close. But she's like my sister so yeah.
I still like the dance scene. I just wish it would have ended differently, without that look they give each other. They could have ended the dance with both of them looking at each other with disgust, like, "What are we doing? Voldemort could be killing someone right now, our best friend is gone, and we're dancing..." or at least end the scene with them showing some sign of the fact that they miss Ron.
The horcrux scene was awkward and I was with my parents I was 11 lol
Lol the nude scene and its rated 12 😂
It’s just so satisfying when u watch a video about a certain topic and the person who is talking about it know exactly what there talking about and gets the point across perfectly. Kudos to u bro love all ur videos 👌👌
When Morgan says something is bad, it’s bad.
I totally agree with everything you said in this video, which is a reason why I always watch both Deathly Hallows one after the other... If I watch only one, and wait some time to finish the story, I feel dissapointed because those elements are not so fresh in my mind anymore
This movie should have been named Harry Potter and the Extreme Camping Trip
Yes
These video essays of yours really are so good
Great video, though this was one of my least favourite Harry Potter films, I still liked the battle of seven potters and Dolby’s sacrifice
Rory Savage you mean Dobby
This girl I know calls him Dobey. Triggering
Yeah, sorry, autocorrect
Rory Savage it’s ok. You did nothing wrong. I’m just saying I know someone who calls him that
If they hadn't added the harry and Hermione scene they could have added the Dudley and Petunia Redemption
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Through out the movies it became totally clear that the movies wanted to show some kind of romantic chemistry between Harry and Hermione. There were many clues and lines in the movies, we haven't in the books. It is not about this unneeded dance scene only, but also about Dumbledore asking Harry if there is something more between him and Hermione or Hermiones Line to Harry: "Maybe we should stay here Harry, grow old..." It's not an accident harrys Line about Hermione, that he sees her as a sister was not added. It was on purpose they didn't include that, because it wouldn't have worked then.
It’s not my favorite movie, but it’s my favorite to watch. And honestly I like the dance scene, because to me the movies makes it clear she chooses Ron, but the dancing helped release the tension and grow their friendship near the end. I really enjoy this watching this movie.
I always feel dissatisfied with the movies of books I love. :(
I agree with most your points. While I love that Harry tried to cheer Hermione up with a little dancing, it was too close to a "first kiss" scene. I'm a canon couple person.
I wish they could’ve added how close Voldemort was to getting to Harry and Hermione, which adds that sense of real endangerment and the feeling of a manhunt. Also wish they would’ve mentioned how Voldemorts name had a jinx, because one of the most common questions I see and get regards why Harry, who was adamant about using Voldemorts name, all of a sudden calls him You Know Who.
I like how you demonstrate all the Harry Potter movies are amazing, but there not all perfect
I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said in this video! I don't know if my son feels the same about it's being his and my thing like you feel about your grandmother, but I hope he does. We both love the whole franchise! He's now 25.
Who is ready for a bunch of angry Harry and Hermionie shippers
Lol
Me, a Harry and Hermione shipper: 👁👄👁
I ship them, but I also heavily love and respect their friendship. It’s goals honestly
@@astoldbynickgerr you are so right😊😊
Or salty Romione shippers who can't stand to see Harry/Hermione's friendship.
@@groot8950 Hey um, Romione shipper here, but I'm a huge fan of Harry and Hermione's friendship. I find it such as awsome friendship.
The dance : Okay very friendly
Almost kiss: NAH THANKS!
I just read the saga for the second time in my life after a long time and after I was finished, I decided to also see all the films again. Both the Deathly Hallows ones left me so disappointed... and what bugged me the most was how the characters behaved. They didn't even seem friends! They often just awkwardly stood around with a blank face, I found them so lifeless compared to how they were in both the books and the earlier films. It took away all emotion for me and I didn't even cry in the sad parts because I couldn't really get involved. I might be exaggerating a bit, but having just finished the books I had high expectations (I'd already seen the films, I just didn't remember much because I was a lot younger the first time) and I kinda felt... eh.
(ps. I don't blame the actors, they've proven themselves to be great in their roles, it must be the way they were written/directed)
Its definitely way everything was written.
Just compare Dumbledore from GOF and from OotP. Same actor but it looks like 2 totally different Dumbledores
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Deathly Hallows: what’s happening i can’t see
This is actually my favourite film in the entire series.
I don’t „ship“ Harry and Hermione, I think Ron is perfect for her. However the dancing scene was a beautiful scene. It showed the raw friendship those two had, after looking death in the eye multiple times. Yes, I know Emma said they were close to kissing, however she also mentioned that it was due to both being alone and without the person they desire most (Ginny and Ron).
actually i saw an interview and jk really liked Harry and Hermiones scene she said she thinks its what naturally would of happened given the situation they were in they would find comfort in eachothet
honestly i love the shaky cam because it makes it more exiting. It always keeps me on my toes becuase i cant see everything thats going on
I’ve always thought that if they had cut some of the unnecessary stuff (like that stupid dancing scene) out of Part 1 there would have been more screen time to go a bit farther.
I think if they had extended Part 1 to where they met Aberforth and left it as a cliffhanger that would have been great, because the Gringotts scene would have added some excitement to the first movie and it would have allowed for more detail in Part 2.
Tbh when I saw the dance scene I was just confused (stupid younger me watched the movies first) I knew Ron and Hermione were supposed to be together and I thought maybe I got it all wrong. After reading the book I am officially infuriated
I agree with that if the gringotts scene had been added to part 1, the movie would've been more exciting, but I think the reason they couldn't do that was because it would have left too little to have a film for part 2. Honestly if they just didnt add any scenes, or with the chase scene in the woods, that didnt need to last five minutes because I mean, they're wizards they have wands and they know hoe to apparate. So if Yates had cut time down for some scenes and not added scenes that weren't in the book, there would have plenty of time to have Kreachers Tale the Dursleys redemption scenes and been able to show and explain Wormtails death in the movie, as well as add a few more details from the book, like you know Grindelwald NOT betraying Dumbledore!!!
Part 2 already is one of the shorter Hp Films. If there is less detail, it's because the filmmakers chose to do so - not because of the runtime.
@Tarini Menon so true.
kreather's backstory wld've been the most interesting thing the movie can watch. I wld've loved it.
I really wish they did put Dudley's redemption and Kreacher's backstory. I also didn't like the part where Harry and Hermione dance scene. Harry belongs to Ginny and Hermione belongs to Ron. All and all i agree with what you said in this video.
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