Worst Trade-In Decision Ever? 2019 Ford Raptor for a 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ธ.ค. 2019
- I traded my 2019 Ford Raptor in for a 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro... terrible decision? What do you think of the two Army Green Toyota’s? Hah... looks like I’m going to war.
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The *Raptor* is the flashy girl-friend. The *Tundra* is a *Wife* to stay with forever.
Naw Tundra is the loyal dog that will always stay by your side and will NEVER leave you. A wife can divorce you and take all of your assets.
Very well put
Excellent analogy
The raptor is your high-cost girlfriend. The tundra is a maintenance-free wife.
Lol😂
Getting rid of a FORD for a TOYOTA is never a bad idea. Trust me...I know
Did you own a Raptor?
@@donbaine118 One Ford...Taurus...one and done
Ford cars are not the same as a truck. Also, there is no Toyota car made that can compete with the reliability of the Ford Crown Victoria. There are certain models from many manufacturers that nail it on reliability. Also that 2020 Tundra is riding on their name now. Not built quite as well as their older ones. Still. If you like it, you will take better care of it and it will last longer than the vehicle you dislike for whatever reason and neglect. Neglected vehicles ultimately get deprived of the care it needs and then the owner blames the manufacturer for something they caused.
I do love the Tundra though. It can't compete with a Ram, especially the 3/4 ton Power Wagon I want. The Raptor doesn't compete with it either. It's what I want. Love the green on that Tundra. I wish the Rams and Tundras had working hood scoops. How cool would that be!? Power sliding rear window is nice on the Tundra. Once you get a taste of V8 power and sound it really is hard to downgrade to a V6.
@@mackjones7688 There is no Ford that can compete with Toyota. All of the big three cannot compete with Toyota or Honda. Not even the Germans can compete. Japanese products of all kinds slaughter the competition all over the world. The one that comes close is Korea. Koreans are definitely making the Japanese push the envelope even further.
@@mikefoehr235 True the current generation of Ford has thrown in the towel on sedans. I hold the standard of reliability to at least 20 years. If you look at the reliability of the Ford Crown Victoria of all the cars still retired but used by police and taxi drivers or used as a first car for many. The Ford crown Vic wins over Toyota. I am a mechanic and I work on cars all the time. I fix all brands and if it was made by humans. It's not infallible. Toyota makes some stinkers too. They have reliability issues and people over look those problems and embrace blind brand devotion and fix the problem without uttering a complaint. Toyota cannot compete against the big three let alone Ford in the Truck segment. They don't have the manufacturing capability nor do they have experience in that field or the incentive to grow past the Tundra. I love toyota products. Especially their diesel compact trucks. However Ford has been number one in half ton trucks for over 40 years for a reason.
While the Tundra is outdated, it's much more reliable than the Raptor
that’s 4 sure
Uh noo
Mo Neenja31 amen! 🙏🏼
How many raptors have you had? That’s right lol
Didn't you trade in this Tundra for a LC heritage? Score!!!! 😃
bruh, nobody is gonna rip you for trading in a ford for a Toyota lol.
andrademeza Hah, I’m honestly surprised by the amount of support for this decision... thought for sure there would be more folks against it.
Ah, Yea your an idiot. Going from 450 hp and 18 MPG to 380 and 15 mpg. Oh what a feeling!
That Ford will drive circles around that Toyota. Better all around truck. Plus that Toyota drives like a lumber wagon compared to the Ford. The Ford Raptor has a much better resale value. That by in the Raptor will have a long life.
@Corey A When you look at the average cost over an average ownership, I doubt the Toyo will be better. Why, because I maintain my vehicles period. Domestics get a bad rap because their owners are usually not as diligent as import owners in terms of maintenance. In order to get this Toyota as quick as the Raptor on or off road will cost you more, and suck more fuel doing it. No thanks, plus the Ford body will hold up better in road salt used in my area.
I would. I prefer toyota over ford generally, but compared to the raptor, the tundra is a relic and the trd pro tundra is a gimmick with no real off-road credibility. The only thing more embarrassing is the trd pro sequoia.
Fawk the overly priced Raptor! TRD pro army green is the real deal!
strykah Tundra isn’t overpriced? Psh, lmfao bro! That powertrain is 12 years old!!!!!!!!
Thamac15 12 years ain’t it ain’t failing look at gmc and new Chevy they have problems
@@Thamac15 bruh, why try to fix something that ain't broken...
Mr.Unknown Cali-Life you suck Tundra has built a reputation which is why older tundras and Tacoma hold there value so well
ivan martinez wtf u talking about I like Toyota and own Toyota lol who said I didn’t like them
You won’t be saying that 200 k down the road.
Rando Commando That’s the word on the street. I definitely love the piece of mind that comes with owning this truck... =]
Yeah this guy is a dumb ass stupid moron. He said Ford is a better truck. Damn moron
@@theshowtime2375 Do you practice at being an asshole or does it come naturally?
I bought an F150 3.5 EB because I've seen that truck & engine put to hard work for years and hold up like a champ. It could be the Tundra can do the same but I never seen it. Not only that the standard F150 3.5 EB will out power this Tundra and save you about $600 annually on fuel.
There are plenty of 3.5 EB's out there now with 200k+ miles that'll still out pull, out run your Tundra and save meaningful dollars on a monthly basis. In this day and age it doesn't make sense to own a full size truck that is going to get 13 mpg on it's best day when there are plenty out there that will get 18 mpg and up. Heck Ford's new 7.3 will better this Toyota and no your Toyota has no where near the durability of a Superduty.
The Raptor is sweet no doubt but you definitely didn’t make a wrong choice, especially if you ended up more positive money wise. You absolutely can set the Tundra up long travel etc to Match or better the Raptor suspension wise If you needed to. I am a Toyota guy but I always admired the Raptor. Can the Raptor be as reliable in the long run? Sure maybe ... but Toyota’s in general from experience, probably more than 10 different ones dated back to 1990 have been absolutely the most reliable of any vehicles I’ve owned or had friends/family own which included F-150’s , Silverado’s, Tahoe.. S10’s.. etc etc I’ve had multiple various Toyota’s over the 125k + mark without issues and currently still have a 97 4Runner with 177k , 07 FJ 90k runs like new , an 05 4.7 with 210k which purrs and runs like new... this one I kept the longest and racked the most mileage on... 2 timing belts services (preventative maintenance) .. 1 radiator, ac compressor , alternator, battery , one door power lock actuator just about sums up everything done other than the fluid changes. Well suspension wise Ive changed out @ around 150k for a long travel set up , factory stuff was still kickin but even if we included struts/shocks etc CA bushings ... for approx 15 years and 210k & not just all pavement freeway miles either... I’d say it doesn’t get a whole lot better than that. For me , Toyota is proven first hand and I can never see Toyota being the wrong choice 😜 I guess in your case it’s a win win, either way you were sittin pretty. Cool colors btw and the matching even adds to the cool factor 👍🏽
Even though the raptor is a really cool truck I would say you did a great choice for a tundra!
Right
Best ever trade! You'll end up with thousands of dollars for repair on the ford.
Uh yup
Even the Nissan Titan is a better choice than the Raptor.lol
Don’t see the need for either one, but from a reliability standpoint, you made the right move.
Right
Duncan Macleod
Probably true for most, but not all. I have a 98 Accord I bought new that’s approaching 400k miles.I get my moneys worth out of a vehicle, and them some.I don’t buy any vehicle that doesn’t have proven reliability.
Brian I have four Toyota’s, two over 300 thousand miles, the people who drive 70 gran trucks will never admit they are shit, they trade so not get such nice(truck) bullshit off road🤣🍀
No comparison between the two but if reliable is your thing... no desert dunes there anyway
Rickey Cooley
Agreed!
Holy shit you got a Tundra and a 4Runner
Teng Xiong I’m very blessed. You’ll have it too before you know it! Invest in yourself before the cars... =]
@@UntamedMotors This is a beautiful set of toyotas. Congratz man
Bruce Mondrafon Thanks man! 🙏🏼
Turbo cars are not for me they usually break good job you got a nice car reliable car after all that is what matters I'm assuming you sleep with your wife not your car
Wow 2 Army Green TRD pros! That’s awesome. Congrats!
Rotorwind Thanks bud!
You traded a exotic, overbuilt, money pit for a tried and true reliable truck. I’d do the same.
Jason Creech my family has two tundra’s and you never needed more than the routine oil change for the trucks.
Ha exotic, blue chip Ford truck. All that Toyota will do better is drink more fuel. Tundra was cool 12 years ago, tt V6 FTW.
@@ProjectFairmont while that tundra is busy drinking fuel, that ford is keeping the shop busy. Which is burning more money?
Dayhon Park keeping the shop busy. Your brand washed into thinking domestics are nothing but problems. As Greta Thornburg would say; how dare you. Millions of people have depended on and built businesses by running domestic trucks. You think Toyo invented reliability, ha! My previous rucks all gave me zero problems, and I give you zero f**ks.
S Schroeder yes, we use fords at my fire department because there very good trucks.
But the only business built on using a ford raptor is desert racing teams. 🤣
I got a 2007 Toyota Tacoma access Cab trd sport 4x4 4.0L v6 and love the truck. It's been reliable, useful, and a great truck.
zzsuprazz Great to hear! It is very reassuring that so many people have positive experiences with these. =]
Supercharge it and never look back. You’ll have a truck that still costs less than a Raptor, has more all around capability, and in the long run will still cost you less comparatively. I think you made a great decision
Had a tundra for 9 years and a f150 for 10 years and there was only one thing I liked about the tundra better and that was the resale value.
biggsly5000 So besides the resale value. You would say they’re the same or comparable ?
Good call. That Tundra will have a life that is twice as long as the Ford.
Toyota needs to upgrade the interior and tech though
Spaz Austin Yeah the interior is straight from 2007... =\
100% agree
If want luxury go buy a car it's a truck. I traded a lamime longhorn for a Tundra TSS off road best decision I ever made.
the tech is upgraded for 2020
Chad Bearb its a problem for all toyotas including cars.
Try driving your Tundra with tow/haul button engaged for a more responsive truck.
Actually driving a tundra with the tow mode engaged wouldn't make sense unless you were towing something it doesn't make the truck drive any better if it's turned on I wouldn't think
Ya it changes the shift points, mine holds gears way longer and shifts firmer in tow/haul mode.
@@mudpuppy318 Ok but my dad says the tow haul mode was only designed for towing not for having it engaged at all times if you drive with it engaged at all times it will shift a lot sooner
Tow/haul mode is designed to help protect the transmission when operating under unusually heavy loads by shifting firmer (quicker) between ratios and by holding the gear longer (delayed shift point) between ratio changes also the torque converter will lock up sooner in the higher gears to reduce heat build up. Driving a Tundra in tow haul mode will do absolutely no harm other than make it actually feel more responsive like Bill McCann mentioned.
If you know you know tow/haul mode when you own a tundra especially when your at a stop light and feel like you need some excitement lol
Dang....do trees not grow in that area?
Btw awesome decision. I wanted a raptor too but went with a Tundra 4x4 TRD off road. Love it.
mixflip haha very few trees out here on Mars, haha. Thanks man, congrats on your Tundra!
id trade my tundra gladly for a raptor
Spray the exhaust pipes if u don’t want them to rust, primer n flat black rustoluem heat resistance spray paint and PPF the front
Nice looking truck!!! I got a 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro, I plan on more videos! hope you enjoy your new truck!
Corradetti Motorsports Thanks man! Congrats on the Tacoma!
That truck looks amazing. Plus the resale is incredible. The only thing you need is the rear TRD red sway bar and the new intake to boost power. Makes a world of difference. I get a new one every 1-2 years. Nothing breaks in a Toyota. It just keeps running.
I had a 13 rock warrior it was leveled 3/1 with 33's and 20x10's.. it averaged a whopping 12mpg.. no matter how you drove it.. those 4.30 gears and that transmission eat up the fuel.. I traded it in 2017 with 98k miles and it had never been to a shop for anything.. I traded it for a 17 F150 with a 6" lift & 35" mt's with the 5.0 v8.. I now have 47k miles and it has averaged 16.8mpg over the life of the truck, and it does a lot of idling since I use it at work. I loved the toyota but it really eats you up in fuel, they have got to do something before winning me back..!!
Good ole windy Cheyenne. I'm here in Cheyenne too. How do you like the Ridge Grapplers?
Very well presented and articulated!!!
Welcome to the Tundra community & keep us posted on cool mods.
Your view if backyard is amazing. I'd move in heart beat wow.... just. Beautiful
Deon Baker Hah thanks man. It’s pretty desolate out here -that’s for sure! Lol
I'd take toyota over ford. Bad news is i'm stuck with ford atm😂
Oslec Liedbag Why are you “stuck”? If you don’t mind me asking...
its ok you will have opportunity to switch in 2020
I'm going from a 2007 F150 to either a 2016 TRD PRO or a 2019.
All Dandy, Baby Tou won’t regret it my friend! Congratz.
@@UntamedMotors Thx! I've been eyeing Tundras for the past few years and now it's time for me to own one! Thx again for your vid on your Tundra!!!
Did you get an alignment after you got those tires installed? Looks great!
Those come from factory dude
arfbarg Yep, it pulled to the right a little after installing them. Got it aligned. =] perfect now.
Awesome choice! I have the metallic gray 2020 tundra TRD Pro and love it! What size tires do you have on yours?
Johnithan Bush thanks man. I have 295/70/18r tires on the stock wheels. No trimming or cutting with this size... anything bigger will require alterations.
@@UntamedMotors Truck is bad ass. Did you do any suspension mods? Leveling kit?
James Valdez Thanks man, appreciate it! No suspension mods, just tires. Only removed the front splash guards and it fits perfectly... no rubbing at all.
As far as reliability goes, your know your Toyota is gonna go 1000k miles if you take care of it. Also not to mention you probably saved yourself a lot of money by switching. I had never seen that color before. It looks sharp. Congrats and no regrets.
My wife normally drives a 2017 f350 platinum, she was less than impressed when I picked up a used 2014 tundra doublecab for a runaround truck , a few weeks later she moved right into it
Raptor Dan Haha, there’s certainly a level of shell shock when you jump into the trundra. Especially if you been driving around around a newer f350 previously hahah glad she’s been converted! =]
Love this truck. Just bought one myself. Picking it up this week. What kind of running boards are these? OEM?
Brad Gourlay Thanks bud! ...and Congrats! These are aftermarket RB20 Go Rhino side steps finished in bed liner.
Thanks pal! Great videos! I went with your tire reco too!
Brad Gourlay Thx. You won’t regret these tires, they’re great!
The Raptor is a beast, but I love the Tundra. I appreciate your review being a dad and a family guy with kiddos. That extra space for lils in car seats makes a world of difference. Awesome truck and congratulations on the new truck and home!
One of the best Looking Tundras I’ve seen. Great job 👍🏻
Jorge Alvarez Thanks a lot man! =]
The Tundra is the best underrated truck around. Love it. You’re right, the Raptor is in a class by itself, and the Tundra CANNOT compare, in any trim. But from a family perspective, and a financial resale perspective, I think this was a great decision.
Ron Sterud Thanks man, I really appreciate hearing that... I’d be lying if I said I didn’t have my moment regret as I drove the Tundra off the lot. It just felt flimsy by comparison, however, over the past few weeks I’ve grown to understand why it’s such a great truck (in its own right). I’ve really enjoyed it this far... love the color and V8. =]
The Tundra is superior to any Ford period, Ford is junk when it comes to fit and finish.
"Best" and Tundra don't belong in the same sentence. So you're thinking the fact that the Raptor was re-sold for more than it was purchased is somehow in favor of the Tundra?
Steve QQ less... you’re obviously salty. Do yourself a favor and skim through the comments here. You’re alone.
Steve go research what the highest resale half ton truck is. Report back who the “Best” is in that category.
Did you do a tire swap? If so, what tires/ sizes did you put on it?
Christian Eckes Yes I did, these are 295/70/R18 Nitto Ridge Grapplers. They’re amazing =] super happy with them so far.
Untamed Motors thanks for the reply! I rewatched the video and saw that you put that on there haha. Oops. I just got a 2020 TRD Pro a month or two ago but the tires for sure need some more beef to them. Thanks again for the reply!
Christian Eckes no sweat brother! Congrats on the new Pro! Hope you love it as much as I do. You’ll definitely need beefier tires hah =]
I’ve been struggling with this for years now.
Sweet truck. I just traded my 15 Ram for a Sr5 crewmax in cement. I changed out the interior lights to 5000k LEDs , license plate , cargo ,and put a putco led bar on . I also ordered oem factory headlight/ fog lights for it. The army green color really sets the truck off. The overall longevity of the Tundra is second to none.
joe scott Congrats on the new Tundra! Great color choice too! Cement looks amazing... You’re right about the reliability! I hope you enjoy yours.
Sweet setup. Is your putco bar in the tailgate? And is it hard wired or hooked up to trailer switch ?
@@deon865 yes the putco led bar is under the tailgate. A local company called ultimate truck and accessories installed it. It looks like they hard wired it in to the trailer plug outlet. They did my Ram and it was still going at 3.5 years later but they do have plug n play harnesses out there from Reccce that will work with the exception of the white reverse wire needs to be hard wired in.
Had a 2003 Expedition for 3 years and 60,000 miles, The engine block cracked. Bought a 2005 Tundra with 9000 miles. I just traded it in with 260,000 miles for a new 2020 SR5 TRD Off Road. I plan to keep this one for another 15 years, or until I die. Which ever comes first.
tonyb0164 thank you for sharing your story... glad to hear you’ve had such a positive experience with a Tundra! =] hope to crack a quarter million miles with mine here! =]
I have the factory michelins on my 2018 TRD offroad. I wanted bigger tires but decided to wait and last winter I was very impressed with them.
Nice, I considered keeping them too but it bothered me too much... especially coming from the Raptor. Figured I would get the most store credit from a tire company if I just did it from the start. They gave $650 for them when I got the Nittos.
Is the leg room on the back really that noticeable? I'm looking to upgrade from my 09 6 speed Tacoma to something bigger. Hate losing my manual but I'm on the fence between the raptor and tundra. Thanks again!!
It is noticeable, I'd say maybe 3-5 inches of additional leg room. However, I would also honestly say the Raptor was PLENTY spacious too... so don't let that be a delimiting factor either way.
Congrats on your trunk! Looks good and sounds like you got what you want!
Thanks bud, I had my doubts as I drove it off the lot... but I couldn't be happier with it. Appreciate it.
Great looking truck! I love that color. Traded my Chevy Silverado in for one recently. Love Toyota.
Eric E Gutierrez thanks man! Congrats on your new Tundra too!!
hey there, awesome truck! love it. How did you end up finding and working with the dealer in utah? Did you call around tons of dealerships? Curious to know how the process worked for you to find the perfect dealership to give you the truck and take in your raptor at such a good trade in value. Thx
Vin Hey! Sorry for my delayed response. I did just that. I wrote up a very detailed trade request that explained all the features/options the Raptor had (included my original window sticker) and wrote out exactly what it’d take for me to get a TRD pro from them. I contacted 14 Toyota dealers in a 3 state radius. 12 of the 14 offered me the same exact trade in amount for the Raptor and all were very bad ($58K)... one offered 61K and another offered 64K... which between the amount of Dave on tax on the Tundra, it could be seen as a 67K value. Brand new Raptors with the same options as mine were being sold for 64-66K so I was pretty satisfied with that. Especially since I had put 15K miles on it over the year. I just capitalized on the one dealer that was willing to work with me and it so happen to be one in Utah. I wouldn’t have traded in the Raptor had I not been able to secure an amazing trade in value.
@@UntamedMotors Thanks for the detailed response! im currently trying to get a trd pro and i think paying msrp out the door seems to be a good deal enough for me with a few options. Hopefully I find one nearby who is willing to work with me, it seems most dealers here in california mark up or arent willing to budge from MSRP. Thanks again!
Vin No problem! Yeah Cali has a terrible rep for markups... sorry. Paying MSRP for a Pro is good, checkout the forums. Very rarely do people get a new Pro for less the MSRP. And if they do, they’re getting a model that’s been sitting on the lot for most of the year /and definitely not a specialty color. Can it happen though? Yes. I’d argue it’s most likely with the Tundra, whereas the Tacoma and 4Runner are even more sought after. Regardless man, best of luck to you!
Which do you enjoy driving more the tundra or 4Runner
Chad03Cobra that’s a tough one... if I had to pick, it’d likely be the Tundra simply because it has more grunt.
Bruh... I would’ve bought the Tundra first. Sick color!!!
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Bet!
You'll have no regrets . Beautiful truck . Absolutely love the color
Jordon Cloutier Thanks for the kind words man... I honestly felt indifferent as I drove it off the lot. A part of me wondered if I made a mistake. After having it a few weeks though, I’ve come to really appreciate this rig... it sounds great and looks awesome. Thanks againz
What size are the tires are they the stock 275 Width 65 Ratio and 18 inch rim diameter. Or did you go for a bigger size?
I believe you made the right decision. Tundras may not be flashy and they love to to drink gas, but they are so reliable you really don't have to worry about them. To me, Not a fan of green though :-) , they are good looking trucks and the interior is not as bad as many non Tundra owners claim.
Good buy bud. Love the color match . The suspension. Whole bit. I have a inferno..
All trucks are good! Before I bought my 2017 Tundra Limited, I was ready to buy a Raptor. Then I sat down started looking what I needed and not what I wanted. The one Thing I needed was tow weight. So after test driving a Tundra platinum with the TRD exhaust I was sold with the power and torque. I tow my Lance Trailer al over without any issues. I have added a Magnuson Supercharger, both front and back TRD sway bars, I now have the truck I love to drive.
Congrats! That V8 with the TRD exhaust is intoxicating huh? How is it with the supercharger? I can’t imagine how awesome it is...
With supercharger the power band from low to high so smooth. Best of all is at higher attitudes I am able to pull my 7,000 lbd trailer without a loss of power.
Btw good choice on the color and TRD PRO.
Did you run before you filmed this?
If the raptor had an 8cyl would you still have looked at the Toyota? And did you're 4runner influence your desire for a Tundra?
Maximus Potestas honestly idk... it does feel “right” having a truck with a v8... regardless of the fact that it doesn’t perform as well at the 6 cylinder. The 4Runner definitely influenced the trade. I love the simplicity of the 4Runner and the unique color helps!
@@UntamedMotors I'm with you in both respects. Waiting for the TRX myself
Maximus Potestas Yeah... that TRX is going to be next level for sure... can’t wait to see one in person. Is there a definitive release date yet?
why, a tundra, you gonna run into no problems next 10 years. next thing you know, you hit 200k miles, with no major issues!
I really like everything about the Toyota Tundra TRD Pro; but why, oh why, couldn't they add a factory rear locker? Toyota, you're killing me with that missing option. The 4Runner and Tacoma both have it...
Adam Polselli ikr why can’t they all receive this treatment? I think Toyota is trying to keep the price point down though... adding those bells and whistles will likely up the price another 4-6K...
@@UntamedMotors Good point about the price, but I say make it an option and see if people spend their money on it. Maybe when/if they do a total refresh of the Tundra. Best of luck!
I agree no rear locker !! It’s bad enough the engine in underpowered at least the 4Runner is
That seems like a huge oversight by Toyota
Nice truck, may i ask where this is? i dont know why but i really like that landscape/scenery
VELORUM Thanks man. Np, I’m in WY
Great video! I have the first gen Tundra when these came out. Mine is a 2007 Tundra 4x4 and, man, do I love it! I have not had a single problem since I've had it. The only thing you have to remember is to engage your 4x4 every once in while. Mine went out, but it was an easy fix vs shelling out $5k+.
Taylor Littlehat Thanks man! That’s great to hear... I love the durability of these rigs! It’s unmatched for sure! =]
I heard those new v6 raptors are breaking down a lot. Now the older gen raptors where great trucks with a more reliable v8. You made a good choice.
I feel a bit more confident working on this V8 versus the turbo V6 in the gen2 Raptors...
6.2 v8 raptors are solid but i love the tundras too great for towing
A Ron I love the sound of both... the noise they make is glorious.
Breaking down a lot, ah no.
You heard wrong about the V6 Raptors. Plenty of toyota trucks breakdown.
Damn and I want to trade my Tundra for a Raptor everybody tells me not to do it but those Raptors just look so good. It's going to be five years with my Tundra so far zero problems zero recalls these trucks are beasts. Going on 50K haven't even had a tune-up and the truck idles so smooth. Definitely a good powertrain made to last.
bigozo1981 Great to hear! You won’t be disappointed with the Raptor... they are wicked fast and look great. Tundras are just super cool too in their own regard.
That would be a dumb decision. And at 50k miles, I would hope you haven’t had to do anything to it.
What size are the tires?
I just picked up my 2020 TRD Pro Tundra at the end of October. Actually traded my 4runner in. So looking forward to replacing my tires, those Michelins look out of place on this truck. Looks like you did a 295/70/18, do they rub at all at full turn? I was looking at 285 Nitto's but now may do these if they don't rub at all.
303MoTo I’ve pulled a few tight u-turns and I haven’t experienced any rubbing... I only needed to remove the front splash guards. Honestly, I’m super surprised how well these fit with the stock setup. I definitely recommend getting them!
@@UntamedMotors - Good to know. I am on the fence between Nitto Ridge Grapplers in 295 and 285. Any regrets with going with the 295?
303MoTo none at all! They’ve been great and the fitment couldn’t get any better imo
I looked at one of the Tundra TRD’s myself. I own at 2019 Ram Rebel 12. I was thinking about trading it in on the TRD. My Ram cost a good bit more than the TRD. The problem with trading in the Ram on it is I would still have to pay. I was up for that because my ram had a better suspension, rear electronic rear locker. I bet at you might regret also when your struck and you only have two wheel drive, one in the front and one in the rear. I agree that the stock tires on the TRD suck and right off the bat you have to buy new ones. But remember get what you want that’s all that matters.
It has a limited slip differential. It will lock in if it needs it.
Tundra won’t disappoint mine served me well I actually went the other route by trading it in for a trd pro taco army green. I miss my Tundra a lot! but the taco is not to bad I just wanted to try something different after 5 years with the tundra. Once the new tundra drops I’m switching back
Valkorion T congrats on the army green taco! I’m definitely curious to see how the 2021 refresh will look... this V8 feels great! If it means 150K+ moles trouble free... I’m on board. =]
You’ve made a good decision. I’m on my third tundra without a single issue to report. First 160k in 6 years, second 87k in 3 years and just purchased a leftover 2019 SR5 a couple months back. The first two were worked hard towing 6k pound travel trailer and off-roading through the Pacific Northwest wilderness from Montana, Arizona, California to Washington. Oh about the stock Michelin tires, they do fairly well off-road until the snow gets deep.
wlr1589 Thanks man. Glad to hear you’ve had such great experiences with Tundras. I’m really enjoying it... haven’t heard too many “bad” things about them... so they just have a good reputation for good reason. Thanks again.
Love the 2020 Trd pro 4Runner in the background. Has the Fj cruiser roof rack on it
You probably made the best decision ever ! Welcome !
I Am Socal Thank you!
I Am Socal exactly! Ford vehicles are all garbage
It’s was a good decision to buy the Raptor, he got an awesome trade in value!
I just bought this exact same truck in December. I absolutely love it.
Congratz man! It's an amazing truck! =]
Untamed Motors I’m loving those tires though!!! Sorry to copy you but I may have to get me some of those too!!! What did you do with the Michelins that came with the truck???
Good Luck copying is the best form of flattery. Hah... I purposely went straight to the tire shop after buying my truck, so I could get the best possible store credit for them. They gave me 650 for my Michelin’s... which isn’t amazing but it was easy...
Just curious, how much did u end up paying for the PRO after the trade (u said u got a good deal on it? The Raptor is worth more than the PRO even though the Raptor is a year older.....
WIBOWHunter yeah I received $64K for the Raptor (it had 15K miles)... paid MSRP for the Tundra. It brought my loan down $18K altogether. Which was great.
Do you have any aftermarket lift added? It looks like you at least have a leveling kit?
Nope. This is stock height for the Pro. =]
I traded my first generation raptor five years ago for a tundra. I’m very happy I did that !!
Been with you since the Tacoma! I would say that I’m disappointed... but these Toyota’s just feel like real off-road trucks!!! They’re the best. I think this will be a decision you won’t regret, not only because of the reliability and resale, But because you’re still in a full size rig which imo feels even more like an old school pick up. Not to mention, you have the Subaru now if you want to zip around. Enjoy and update us on the long term!
evan melendrez Thanks for following the channel man, I really appreciate the support. The tundra is a totally different beast compared to the Raptor... feels more raw... the v8 feels great and I love the sound. Feels like a bigger rig too.
Down the road is a raptor reliable?
Congrats on the new truck. Can you please post the exact model of the Rhino running boards? Thx.
PhoenixTacSolutions no problem! They are the “Go Rhino RB20 Running Boards, with bed liner finish.” You’ll love them...
@@UntamedMotors Thank you!
I love my tundra and Toyota has never failed me in my experience
Turtle Stomper I love the piece of mind that comes with driving a Tundra!
Wyoming, that explains it. I thought it looked like the twilight zone for a sec.
potato salad Haha, common mistake. That or Mars.
Do the 295 tires rub any? At full lock or over bumps while turning? In reverse with the wheels turned ? I’m going to get a TRD pro tundra in the near future and want to go up on the tire size immediately. Thanks
That's the truck I have and I am happy with it. Bought a 2019 white Honda CR-V for the wife. Happy with both but I would have really liked to have gotten an army green 4Runner for her. I remember an earlier video you said only one army green per household. Glad to see you did what you wanted. Subscribed. Merry Christmas!
Leonard Hartford Thanks brother! Merry Christmas!
Toyota knows most will buy the TRD pro and not go off-road. That's why the big cab with no storage underneath the back seats, highway tires and no diff locker
Marco Femto Sad but true I’m afraid... personally, I’ll definitely take it off road but nothing that’ll actually test its full capabilities. Might park on the curb at Walmart on occasion... you know, to flex. =]]
You've made the right decision!!! I'm a Ford guy my self until last year. Now I'm
a Tundra owner and so glad I did.
Shiner Sam Thanks man, honestly I felt a bit indifferent about the trade in after I did it... Mainly because the Raptor felt much nicer inside... and the snappy turbocharged 6 cylinder was missed at first. The more I drive the Tundra though, the more I’m loving it. The v8 is amazing and the simplicity is growing on me. I’ve gotten a lot of compliments on the color too... more than I ever did with the Raptor if you can believe that.
@@UntamedMotors I have an account with Ford to where I can get the best deal in the world still that didn't change my mind from getting a Toyota Tundra. My brother has a 2008 Tundra,it has over 300,000 miles on it and still kicking! The only thing he did to the truck is regular maintenance. I had a Ford truck, let's just say the whole service department knows me. I bought a 2019 Toyota tundra 4x4 1794 edition and so glad I did. The only problem that I'm having right now is not finding enough reason to drive it 😂
@@UntamedMotors if looking for response get a peddle commander tune. It will help with response. They have it tuned way down for gas consumption purposes I'm guessing.
@@ShinerSam o my gosh the leather in that thing is beautiful. Praying find a wrecked 1794 and steal seats lol... but I think 1794 only came in extended cab.
If you really want that power back go put a supercharger in it. Toyota will still honor warranty and they output, I believe 504 HP and 550 ft lbs of torque. Most people who've done it report no loss and sometimes an increase in MPG.
Nice truck man, what part WY are you in?
SigBoy 1911 thanks man, near Cheyenne
Untamed Motors small world, I live in Cheyenne. You don’t come across too many youtubers from WY.
Awesome video.
Love the subie in the back!
Andre Melancon thanks bud! Unfortunately it’s been sold... =\
@@UntamedMotors All good brother, I'm contemplating selling my 17' for this Tundra.
I'm in Northern VA but we drive out to WV for camping.
You won’t regret it. You didn’t own the Ford long enough to start sinking tons of money in repair costs.
Kevin Lee That Raptor was amazing but you’re right... it had a lot of bells and whistles that were bound to break... not to mention the turbo 6 cylinder didn’t have as great of a reputation as the 5.7 v8.
If your pulling trailers of course it will drink gas that's any truck come on people
Hey would you happen to know the color code of your truck? I’m trying to paint mine and I wouldn’t mind that color! Thanks!
Christopher Cruz yeah it is 4B5320
I’m thinking to trade my 2019 raptor for a 2020 Toyota 4Runner TRD PRO or Land cruiser.I need the vehicle can do off road and snow driving,anyone can tell me plz?
师leo I personally love the Land Cruiser Heritage Edition... however they are very high priced. The 4Runner is a safer bet!
4.0 1-GR and the 5.7 are both some amazing engines. Keep them forever!
Eggsr2bcrushed haha that is the goal! Thanks!
Just oil changes and filters. Hard to kill either vehicle.
The 4 liter is a piece of crap. I have one in my 4Runner and I hate it. Worst thing about the vehicle by far.
@@trailrunnah8886 Ok, I'll bite. What's so wrong with an engine that can easily go 200k+ miles on just regular maintenance?
@@Robsbrd99 for one, it sounds terrible. Mine sounds like it has a rod knock at idle, yet everybody tells me it's normal and these are just noisy engines. I find that very off-putting. Also, I don't care for the sound of it at high RPM, sounds like a Cuisinart full of ball bearings lol. However the major thing is that the torque curve is all wrong. The transmission wants to keep the revs as low as possible, yet the motor doesn't make any power till 4000 RPM, it's like the engine and the transmission are working against each other. I should be grateful, I know the new Tacomas are much worse.
I just hate how mushy it is around the 2,000 RPM, where most of the daily driving is done. I recently saw a Dyno chart of one of these, at 2600 RPM it made between 160 and 170 lb. That's pretty weak in a vehicle this big and heavy. The chart started at 2600, I can only imagine it was in the 140 to 150 range around 2,000 RPM. I just don't like the driving feel, I'm not used to having to rev a motor to the Moon to get performance out of it. I thought I could live with it, but the longer I own it the more it irritates me.
Also, literally any modern engine can go 200k plus with just routine maintenance. That's not that big of a deal. shoot, I read a story on Jalopnik last year about a woman that put 1 million miles on her Hyundai Elantra.
My 2.5 Turbo 5 cylinder Volvo has 225k on it and runs terrific. That motor also has its torque peak of 236 ft lbs at 1900 RPM, so it's great to drive and feels much stronger than the 4Runner.
The Tundra and the 4Runner ALL DAY LONG! Great choice. FORDs and Chevy are PURE GARBAGE!!
Mike Laughlin Wife’s vehicle is a 2015 suburban with 51k on it. Just regular maintenance and she’s been reliable. Can’t speak on Ford, but this is our second burb with zero problems....
Crunchy Black suburbans r different class from any other American vehicle they r very reliable compared to the other garbage American vehicles
What's the running board brand?
Francisco Cruz Go Rhino
Did you recalibrate the speedometer for reflect the speeds of the larger tires?
joey14455 I haven’t yet no... I wonder how difficult that is to do. Any idea?
I am uncertain. I have a 2016 4Runner that I got from the dealer with oversized tires and a lift under warranty. (285/70/17s) The speedometer came recalibrated, but I figured it was calibration facilitated by the dealer.
It just seems there is little information regarding speedometer recalibration after getting bigger tires and I wanted to see how you would handle the situation.
I know that speedometer calculates speed, mpg, and odometer readings based on the height of the tire, so some would want to have it changed to reflect the correct size.
Keep us posted if you decide to address the speedometer and how you went about changing it if you decide too!
joey14455 I appreciate the 411. I’ll definitely look into it and when I do I’ll explain how it worked out. Thanks
You gained a new subscriber because of this video.
Joequin Brown Sr Thanks a lot man! Let me know if you’re interested in seeing me share anything in particular. Appreciate the support.
Can’t beat the reliability and quality of Toyota 👍🏻
Today in the future, on 12/26/22. Today Tundra prices have dropped 5 grand because of inflation.
I just traded in a 2006 Toyota Tacoma that I had for 16 years for a raptor. I waited and waited for the new tundra body style. I couldn’t be more disappointed in the way that truck looks. I hope I don’t regret my decision for going with the raptor, but in my own personal opinion, the new tundra is nothing but a complete disappointment. They could’ve done anything they wanted to. And they made it look like it would ride down a train track nicely. I would’ve bought the truck you have had I known the new body styles would look the way they do. Yours looks awesome!
Amen.
Some like the war colors..Toyota dont have the tech YET,but the reliability to all others yota is the best+i love the way they drive
Buster 210 too much tech spoils reliability in cars and trucks. Takes too long to mature.
Damian Jackson yeah I remember guys like you that didn’t want antilock brakes and electric windows. But that’s the only thing Toyota guys can hang on to in order to justify buying a time machine.
Devo Dar that’s where you are very wrong in assuming you know me. I embrace technology. I’m a pilot and actually no longer fly the plane. The computer does ALL the work. In the case of the auto industry. They use the general public as test subjects. I’d purchase a reconfigured vehicle the second year out. So, I do hope that clears it up and you know a little more about me than you did before. Cheers!
Not a fan of the army green though. Pro has some many better colors.
Don’t they say that green cars are for accoutants?
Thanks man. Yeah the green is definitely hit and miss with folks. And yeah I’ve heard the accountant reference before... though I’m not one. Lol
I think it looks awesome
💪Super sexy drive way my guy!! Both beautiful in the Army green! Great choice! Two of the highest resaling vehicles on the market right now too!👍
Zach McClure Thanks man! We’re loving them both! Definitely blessed. =]
Cool was looking between the bakflip and the undercover armor flex, but decided to go with the armor flex. Got it on sale before cinco de mayo... Great video bro keep up the good content.
chris12b23 thanks a lot man! Grats on the armor flex! Hope you enjoy it.
the reliability differs greatly between the ford and toyota, it was a good idea
Aaron James Di'stefano Vallejo based on what evidence? Lmfao Ford sells more trucks than Toyota could ever dream of doing.
@Jason Creech your drunk lol tundras are a solid ass truck
Look at resale at 100k. The ford will be in the basement, and your Toyota will have more value. The Ecoboost motors make great power, but the high pressure fuel delivery and known reliability issues will make people run away from these motors.
Jason Creech bullshit lieing basturd
@@AllThingsFabrication I just turned 160k on my 2014 f150 ecoboost. In doing so, I did a tune up as well. I changed the oil, air filter, and spark plugs. I promise I'm not exaggerating when I say that my truck runs and drives the same at 160k as it did when new. Maybe I'm just lucky, but I absolutely love the 3.5 EcoBoost.
Would have a Toyota over a Ford anyday, unless I had to have a 3/4 ton of course.
Jeff Rooke There’s something to be said about the piece of mind that comes with driving this truck =]
Nice truck. what kind of rock sliders ya got there?
These are Go Rhino running boards. RB20s with bed liner finish. Highly recommend.
My discount code should still be active in their site 10% Off when you use “Untamed” as the promo code. 👍
Good choice, but I’m more amazed by all the open space you have around your home!!