WHY??? 2023 Platinum Already Traded In
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The more I look at this 3rd Gen Tundra the more I'm liking the 2nd Gen Tundra with the V8
The New grills are aweful. Toyotas not a truck lol
wayyy better!
The more i look at new corolla the more i like old corolla. I like my pld accord more than the new ones and i can burn through 5 or 6 of them before getting to the budget of a brand new. Im going to sell my beloved accord tho. Going to save up for a drz400 or dr650
And you get to have front tow hooks too, imagine?
Yep
71k for an SR5! That is one terrible dealership.
Agreed 👍
USD? My 2023 Limited TRD was 71K CDN. I am greatful for my local dealership.
Agree wow
You are right, way too much for an SR5. 🙄
@@sexyfishyphish USD yes, but not CDN. CDN that's $90k's
I just bought a black platinum last week at MSRP. I had to travel to a dealership 40 miles away as my local dealer marked it up $10k over MSRP. I got a lot of satisfaction telling my local dealer that I paid "only" MSRP at a nearby dealership. I refuse to do business with someone who thinks they can gouge customers in the name of "supply and demand"!
Last September I picked up a new Dodge Charger Scat Pack. I paid full sticker too and am still resenting it. The Dodge Hemi V's are going away after this year like the Tundra V-8's. Let's Go Brandon!
It's all fake. Gouging and fleecing of America. I used to sell new, used, certified pre-owned. Back when the 2005 Mustang GT came out. I was selling MSRP due to availability. GT only. And ONLY then. Otherwise, the American consumer kicked our *sses!!
They were so highly informed, thoroughly researched, with product knowledge and invoice pricing right at their fingertips.
EVERYTHING was going for invoice. And the dealership was surviving on hold back.
We only made good money on plan buyers.
I don't know what kind of drugs current new car buyers are on these days. $9500 over sticker for a Kia?! Are you serious?!
2005, I had the utmost respect for the American car buyers. A real worthwhile challenge. Made my selling experience rewarding. Truly an "earned" income.
This new car silliness nowadays is embarrassing at best.
You still overpaid. MSRP is inflated also. Wait till 2024 and see where the prices are. My guess is way down
@@NightThings99 Remember the story of the man who was complaining that he had no socks. Then someone pointed out to him the man who had no feet!
@@AStanton1966 lameness shines brightly from some.
Got the first loan payment bill and instantly had buyer's remorse
We all do lol I'm still having buyer remorse
What’s the interest rate ??? Here is 7.99% so going for a Sierra 2022 at 1.49 %
@@zyanyavno aaa had 4.99 on their site but if you can get 1 percent rate get that truck
Once you factor in tax that truck is $88,000 probably $90,000 out the door with tag and title. It is mind-boggling to me the cost of these vehicles. It makes me so grateful that I got a 2021 tundra Trd pro before they stop making them because I only paid $51,278 out the door for the truck. Just mind-boggling.
That stealership is fucked! My brand new trd pro was MSRP of 70k
@@sexyfishyphish I'm rich and I just cannot understand how you can justify 70,000 on a 1/2 ton truck. I have a GMC 3500 Duramax dually that I bought 10 years ago for $45,800 and $49,000+ out the door. Just don't get you boys. LOL
@snakeplissken8506 cause I want a built truck that has a warranty. So that way, if anything fails, it is all covered by Toyota! I need a few more mods to have my overland build complete. Like I could have gone with a cheaper truck and gotten other upgrades, and it would have been cheaper. but I also wanted all the bells and whistles that come with it! And then I would of had to deal with others for warranty. Plus toyota is known for voiding warranties for some of the mods I would of gotten that come standard on this truck. And for reference, I priced out a 3500 gmc dually that had the bells and whistles I would have wanted, and it was at 92k, and then it started saying contact dealer for pricing. Moral of that side note is 10 years ago was a long time for vehicle pricing!
@@sexyfishyphish I feel ya. That's a lot of money to spend for a warranty IMHO but to each their own. Cheers.
TRD pro or TRD off road? I have a hard time believing that. Lowest MSRP on a 21 TRD pro was around 53k. These were near impossible to find at MSRP let alone under unless maybe you are an employee or something to get that much under MSRP. You would have had to purchase that in the high 40s. Nonetheless if that's the deal you got you did crazy good.
I got my Platinum for 4k under MSRP from out of state. My local dealer keeps trying to convince me to trade it in to make 6k over MSRP so that they can sell it for 10k over MSRP. The market is vicious right now.
I did that on a Capstone. The Dealer gave me more than I paid for it. I bought another Capstone in the color I wanted originally.
Where did you guys buy your Tundras? I am VERY willing to travel!
Beaman Toyota in Nashville TN. They never charge over MSRP
@@chemorobert156 I bought mine from Eastern Shore Toyota in Alabama but they were running an end of the year special when I bought mine.
Graham Automall in Mansfield Ohio
Labor day weekend in 2019, I bought a new 4x4 Tundra SR5 double cab, with the 5.7 engine, spray on bed liner, predator steps, upgraded rims, paint matched bumpers, full center console and other misc. add ons. Paid $37,200. It had 15 miles on it. Most I had paid for a truck up till then and I whined about it. Guess I dodged a bullet. Guess I should keep it.
I bet this dealership doesn't get much business. $15k+ market adjustments? this isn't 6 months ago. interest rates are high, economy is worse, and people are spending less. the dealerships around here are all filled with new cars and no one is shopping. these idiotic dealerships are going to have to drop their prices sooner or later.
“I did that”
Greed my friend
@@shanewhittemore oh I know, but eventually their bills are going to come due. the ford dealership here is completely full, and I saw two 18 wheelers dropping off another load of vehicles. greed is all well and fine when there was a shortage, but we aren't in those times. now dealers are just being stubborn.
“I did that”
So many Tundra buyers bought the New Tundra without a test drive . They took whatever they could get. I test drove the 2022 and it turned me off from the word go. My 2016 feels better,looks better to me. Toyota Corp did not listen to its core previous Tundra owners. They can keep their V6 and Hybrids because I’m not buying.🤨 The prices and Mark-Ups are unworthy for this New Tundra by any explanations. By the way I owned a 2005 Tundra Limited Double Cab and I had a Moon Roof larger than my 2016 has.😯
That dealer markup on the 1st platinum you showed is NUTS especially with it not being optioned out that much. I have the 2022 platinum in the same color with the 6.5 foot bed, power running boards, advanced package, and hard cover and the MSRP was $66,624 (which is what I paid before factoring in my trade-in and down payment). While I do wish the TRD off-road package was an available option it probably wouldn't have made much sense for me to add it given off-roading is not something I anticipate doing much of (still probably would have added it being the impulsive shopper I am so it's for the best that I couldn't). It probably would have made more financial sense to stick to the SR5 TRD Sport, but I liked the look of the Platinum better and wanted the additional options. With that said I definitely do miss my Camry payments compared to the Tundra platinum payment so I definitely understand the people that have changed their minds and traded back out.
Crazy markup on that black platinum! I just picked up a red hybrid platinum at MSRP. I had one dealer try to add a 3k MA but I passed on that one.
Lakewood sucks hoping they’re out of business soon!
Answer. Missing the V8 sound 😂
I bought a used 2002 Ford E150 van for my plumbing & heating business with 85,000 miles back in 2008 for $5,000.00. Still driving it today. I don't understand pickup buyers as anything in the bed is exposed to bad weather & theft. And why spend all that money for poor gas mileage? My Prius V hauls an 80 gallon water heater with the doors shut & gets 40 MPG+ with all the comforts you would need. Bought that cheap as well.
I got my '21 Silver Sky Metallic Platinum for 57k brand new 2 years ago! And I complained about that haha 😄 Now I look like a genius lol
Really enjoyable video!! If that Sport had of been a Crewmax it would have been perfect. I figure on the Platinum with 275 miles the poor guy bought after watching one of your videos and got home and the wife said it's me or the truck. He may have made the wrong choice??
The Platinum with 268 miles has to be a overnight remorse situation.
StLouis dealers have multiple used new gens with ridiculous price tags on them. Several of them have been sitting for more than 6 months.
It's also possible the dealer is scheming like many have been doing. Get a salesman or dealership employee to purchase then immediately trade in and the employee loses nothing. Then they can ask whatever crazy price they want without having to worry about getting flack from Toyota corporate for the market adjustments
I wonder if they gave the customer a full refund?
Also, when buying a vehicle that you havnet seen or testdrove in person, it may not have turned out to be the vehicle the owner was expecting
I love that this is your job, go to the dealership before they get there and show off the inventory. Awesome 😎
Lol, Dealerships are closed on Sundays in NJ
This is a NJ dealership??? I’m in NJ and recently bought a 22 SR5 for around $1k under MSRP. Granted it had 4,000 miles on it but I wonder why some are marked up so much. Even their 23’s were at or below MSRP
@@TundraDude34 Have you ever been ban from a lot?
I basically brought the same Platinum at MSRP about 3 hrs away from this place. Basically for the price they want for an SR5
I put down payment on a 1794 wind chill pearl Tan interior ,they said i have a 6 months wait. Yesterday on came in but it was silver so the sales rep told me to come and take look at it and test drive it. I get up there Saturday evening and it was sold, his manager traded his 22 Platinum for the 23 1794. That might be the case for that one there also.
With all the issues and recalls on this New Tundra why would anyone be stupid enough to strap themselves down to horrendous truck payments.😬😂
Have been a Toyota Fan and owner since 2000. I have owned many Toyota vehicles and still own a 2021 white 4Runner and a 2020 army green Toyota Tundra TRD Pro with a few extras but most of all, it only has 10,000 miles and been garaged it's whole life. Really do love that truck, I can't part with it for the new generation Tundra though. I like to spend many people or if I was honest about why I don't like them so I'll just keep it to myself.
I'm in Oregon , might apart with it for the right price tho.
My local dealer cant get any new ones but they have already had 16 and counting used (new) Tundras. They arent trading for them (because they have nothing to trade) but they getting them as dealer trades or something else. Its a bit concerning how many used ones we are already seeing. Ill stick with the tried-and-true last gen :)
There is a lot of reasons why. Two examples that I know of personally make sense. 1st example is a co-worker bought a standard SR5. He drove it 1,500 miles before wanting a higher trim level. Traded it in for a platinum trim. Other one had his 2018 Tahoe take a shit on his wife. Traded it in for the new sequoia since they have 3 kids and didn’t think a 2018 would die.
@@studsauce7803 the factual reason is they lost their financing ability and cant get any Ford or Toyotas in. They have just a few vehicles on display but you have to go to a sister city/car lot to make a purchase. Just years of bad business.
I definitely think there’s some shady business being done by a lot of dealers, as they are empowered to adjust used vehicles to “market price”, vs seeking new vehicles at msrp
Consumers drive mark up. If the consumer is willing to pay it. The dealers will add it on. This behavior is consumer driven. I would never EVER pay mark up! Never !!! I just can’t wrap my head around why someone would want to be made a fool of.
I will admit that while I can absolutely without a doubt afford my 23 SR5 and coming from an 07 that I owned for 13 years I was almost this guy that traded the platinum in. I instantly got buyers remorse and not so much because of the price but it just didnt feel like the big tough and rugged tundra that I knew. Lots of cheap plastic and overall a smaller truck. I started looking for used 21 TRD pros but they are still selling in 23 for way over what they were new. I still would unload mine for a 21 TRD pro at the right price but this truck is growing on my now and over 5k miles. I do love the tech, smooth ride and it's way better at towing. I've gained a solid 5 mpg better with this truck too. For now I'll hang on to it and honestly I don't think I can go to a short bed I've always had a 6.5 bed.
Just wondering, how many years will it take to recoup the cost of New Tundra by gas mileage by trading in your trusted Gen 2 .😅😂🤣
@@ronsteitz4535 didn't buy it for gas mileage. Anyone who spends 10s of thousands on a new truck simply for fuel economy isn't making a wise choice. I bought mainly because I've been a long term Toyota guy and they have been good vehicles for me. I wanted a full crew cab with 6.5 bed and didn't want the double cab like I had before. With that you must get a 22+. It tows better and has lots of awesome tech but I also have some things I don't care for. Just happens to get better fuel economy than my 07. Will it be as reliable as the previous gen? Doubt it but time will tell I guess.
A lot of tundras being traded in around mid area! You can find them used all over. Only issue is they are overpriced most of them cost more than brand new ones.
71 for a sr5 that's crazy if I'm not mistaken my 2017 sr5 TRD off road was out the door about 42, so they managed to add 30 grand worth of upgrades I don't think so
Yrah. So happy I picked up my 2019 1794 4x4 with 2k miles May 2020. 42k OTD because I'm not paying these ridiculous price. I'd rather incest 70k an use the difference for a vacation..
Trading in a truck that’s basically brand new comes down to how much you’re upside down, if you are. And how much the dealership values your trade. No way I could trade in my 23 Nissan Titan. It’s a great truck but I think the dealership would worry about selling it.
Man seems like I lucked out with these trucks you’re showing lol. Got an iForce max 1794 in supersonic red for 65k with 5k miles at a local Lexus dealership (previous owner needed more interior space and traded the truck for a gx lol)
How about the MPG??? Are you happy with the performance??I had a friend bought Ram 1500 diesel and she fill the tank everytime goes near 1/4 every 10 to 14 days😳😳💵
@@melvindamoudt484 it’s pretty good for a heavy truck, around 20 in the city and 19 on the highway. Performance is great, no turbo lag due to the hybrid system
You call that lucked out? All the vehicles are overpriced and by September we'll see huge drops in prices.
You're right the Platinum truck at 1:36 just needs some chrome wheels and trim to really knock it out of the park! We have had this discussion before :) Also have you noticed how very small the rotors are now on these new trucks?
All those dealers still doing markups will be coming to an end soon. I have already bought (2) 2022 Capstones and (1) 2023 1794 all at or under MSRP. You just have to get to the right Dealer.
Also really wish you could get a sunroof in sr5 trim…I love the sr5 trd sport/off-road appearance package, but would love a sunroof…tundra did this in their last trucks too, sr5 was one of the better looking trims but you couldn’t get the features you wanted
I have that same black platinum with air suspension and spray in bed liner. Really happy I only paid sticker. 64500. I love the truck. My favorite Tundra so far. Last two were 2012 TRD rock warrior crewmax. 2014 SR5 TRD offroad crew max.
I can afford 80k for a truck.. but there is no way on earth I would ever pay that much for just a truck. These stealerships are insane.
They couldn’t pay the mortgage on the truck, that’s why they got rid of it 😂
Lots of dumb asses bite off more than they could chew
Because either the number of early issues were overwhelming or they figured out paying $1000/month for a vehicle is insanity.
As far as the payment, you normally know what that is before you agree to buy. I bought my 07 Tundra new and I was at the dealership for a few hours before I was happy with the payment. I'm still driving my 07 Tundra.
Platinum in Blueprint- (not in this vid-is my opinion on the best choice /color for 2023. But I did really enjoy my 2016 CM Limited in Silver- I’ve had so many compliments on both! First person to look / purchased the 2016 near full ask. Crazy equity in that.
The new Tundras need a redesign. The grill and the wheel wells look terrible in my opinion. Also, getting rid of the V8 means it will likely be in the shop a lot.
Sounds like a flip, I bought a new F150 in 2021 and within 2 months the dealer I purchased it from offered to buy it for more than I paid. I sold it back without regret.
I just took in a Cement Grey 2021 Limited Tundra Crewmax with 6,000 and change miles on the odometer. Dude traded it in for the 2023 iForce Max Platinum
Still waiting a couple years and see what a refresh will look like, also by then tons of bugs would have been worked out, still dont like the body panels being so soft and flexing when pushed on, and that big ole plastic grill that rattles around
Love the black. Prices are getting ridiculous
As anyone experienced the middle section of the pano roof have a ticking sound when it’s super cold …my trd pro does it and when I apply pressure to the center bar it goes away but when I release my hand it starts again
The price is the main problem for all of these greedy dealerships.
I traded in my Platinum, I couldn't get a Pro so I got a TRX.
How is that TRX? They are only another 20 or so in some cases, I think the TRX is a better truck.
My 2018 1794 edition Tundra with matching hard bed cover with only 15K miles was $48k with 4% interest in 2021. In 2023 it only has 35k miles on it. I am laughing at the prices now and what people are paying. Wait till the prices drop because people will not pay the prices. Dealerships are going to be dropping like flies.
I cant believe the prices on these new Tundras, even the bare bones sr5. I'll never buy one.
They got rid of it because the gage cluster went blank probably they said nope I'm done
Got my 2016 Platinum CrewMax Tundra V8 as a Toyota Certified used car in 2018 for $39K with only 38K miles. Looking at car prices now I feel like I stole it. Paid it off recently and still only has 93K miles. At 61 years old it might outlast me. 😅
@ToyotaDude34 can you do a video on the difference on tundra engine “I force max vs the regular” please thank you
That’s Toyota of Lakewood I bought the blue TRD sport from the showroom. Yesterday. That I force max was a special order
15k mark up 😳 they can keep ‘em 😅 thanks for the demonstration on your part though.
I see plenty of them used online… this has been true since they came out.
They traded it for a 2021 tundra with a V8 and front tow hooks!
Really thinking of getting a new tundra but the fact that i am seeing alot of very low mileage used tundras on the sales lots has me concerned. Didnt like the truck, early issues, coulnd afford it,?
Should I import a Tundra from the US or should I buy a GMC Sierra locally (Qatar)?
If I lived in Qatar, I'd get a series 70 Land Cruiser Truck! I wish they were available here!
Can you get a Hilux with a Diesel?
@@bobmatley yes
They know we are disappointed with the downgraded motors they don’t care because they building what the government wants. For fuel mileage. Every knows at this point. We don’t want full sized suvs and pick up trucks with anything less that a v8 it’s simply too big and heavy for them little motors. Little motors coupled with turbos and high compression ratios equates to a short life span at more cost to the customer. If you can’t afford gas for a v8 your not really using the truck for what it’s meant for.. WORK! Iv lost all interest in the tundra with this generation.
Government spending is out of control!!
(Well have you looked in the mirror lately?)
I paid $4450 for a 1 ton, '08 super duty turbodiesel. Okay, admittedly it only had hand crank windows. But mpg near 20mpg, and air condition. A work truck, it generated $94,700 May to May gross income. I think America needs to see mental physicians, and stop self medicating themselves with high end automobiles.
Sooner or later something’s gotta give and this whole supply/demand/interest rate situation will settle down and sanity returns
Flipping? Great way to throw away money!🤣 Impulse control is a good attribute folks!
Too bad they had to ruin it with the pinstripes. Idk why dealers do that anymore.
Most people can not afford the higher trim levels like they use too. Out pricing the middle class and surging inflation. It sad!
Stop buying these vehicles at these prices and they will HAVE to eventually drop these prices. Its criminal. I refuse to play.
I’m seeing very few new generation Tundras here in Wisconsin and personally I wouldn’t buy one either. I love my 2020! 22+ mpg, supercharged, and actually looks like a truck and not a little Tonka truck😂
260 miles....they didn't keep it for a month or two. That's a flip
206 Mile? My 17 was delivered with 162 Had to be brought in from a dealer over an hour away. One I test drove just like it had 400 on it both sold as new. Yea there are somethings on the new ones I like Still nothing to make me trade and start over. Now that I have seen a few in person I still say they are ugly and also sit too low for my liking
There’s ALOT of used 2022 Tundras on the market. Mostly everyone I’ve talked to have traded them in because their junk. Too many issues, shit gas mileage, bad quality control etc
Here in Charleston SC too. I see where they’ve been traded in at several dealerships around town. Never have I seen anything like it (with Tundra’s) obviously not happy owners if they traded them in so soon.
Yeah. I see more used 22-23 than 20-21
Dealer gave them more than they owed. Used prices are still crazy.
Prices would come down if people would stop massively over paying for these
Do you think Tacoma has competition with the new 2023 Colorado/Canyon ?
Tacoma already outsells the Ranger , Colorado , and Canyon COMBINED. Tacoma will always be top selling midsized truck in America.
Price is way to high for a half ton truck. You can buy 3/4 ton with a diesel for less.
Stopping buying vehicles new and used for a while, and prices will come down. It's ridiculous to buy a truck one third the cost of a house. Folks are also asking ridiculous prices for high mileage worn-out used vehicles. Its greed everywhere!! Vehicles are becoming unaffordable to the average American.
I paid too much for a Ram 1500 Limited in 2020...60k out the door...people can be foolish with money but its theirs I guess... now I understand people who buy 80k trd pros and never even drive on gravel tho I still laugh at them
I would get the 18 inch if I could on my 1794 it gets curbed so easy
I just need anyone to send me information on the most reliable Truck in North America by brand, with zero% of issues. Thanks ahead of time 👍🏻. Because based on what I read, they (new gen Tundras) are the worst, so send the best, I would like to purchase one 🙄.
Yup ... numerous defects in manufactors communications should be recalled as well.
These trucks were 20k cheaper before COVID. I don't get it. I'll just keep driving junk until these dealerships calm down. No way in hell I'm paying 60k for a cloth half ton truck. I remember seeing a trd pro for 50k a few years ago now they are 80. Anyone paying these prices has issues. It's not just Toyota either it's all of them. People need to stop buying this crap. Let these companies sweat and keep driving what you have. I make damn good money but I refuse to pay these prices. Ridiculous. A sr5 should be 45k unless it's fully loaded.
Markup is insane.
Overpriced Overpriced Overpriced… Save your money reductions will be coming…
IDK about the new tundras looking good.... Looks like a Japanese version of an American truck. The grill is just too big. The 4runner looks better in this styling
These trucks are less of a truck and more of just an suv with a truck bed.
Tundra has fallen into the green new deal
Those MA are laughable. That's ridiculous. Platinum looks amazing in silver, even better in WCP
Market adjustment….. Your dealership is out of business……
My thoughts are that they are way overpriced and the new design is ugly as sin. No way in he'll I would pay those prices.
Why are fender liners an option on the platinum...
70k for an SR5?!? Dealerships need to go away. There's doing what you need to do to stay in business during a difficult time and then there's absolute unethical greed.
Mudflaps should be standard.
They will give him blue book Traded in 22 Tacoma TRD off rd. Luner Rock got 36000 had 2000 miles advertised it for 49000 i paid 45000
Very enjoyable!!
Guy returned the truck said cant afford to pay
I got Limited crew max 65K
I would never buy from that rip-off dealership.
They probably gave him more than he paid
The old gen is still the better looking truck it actually looks like a truck
Man the stance is just wrong, looks too......Mall ride like or maybe I should have bought a car looking. Looks weak. But I guess beauty is in the eye right?
U sure dont see many new tundras on job sites
Who is selling over MSRP now? In Texas you can find $1-3k off MSRP.
Everywhere except the cute little state of texas. No surprise given they're made there and 90% of vehicles on the road there are trucks.
They simply are not worth the money,plain and simple,and if people were smart they'd let them sit on the lot.
Plus I've seen some owner reviews on the new model and they have thier short comings.
$71k for basically a base level SR5? You have be dumber than a box of rocks to buy that truck. Just let it sit there and rot like every other truck at dealerships these days. Why are ppl buying these things at these insane prices?
The tires are so lame. They look like tires on a family station wagon. Rims are ok,, but so NOT aggressive tires...The Grill looks like a cheese grater. No thanks V6's....