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CF, if you have any connections whatsoever with Rane, Denon, Numark, etc. PLEASE let them know we need their version of Vestax's now-legendary Controller 1 turntable with notation controls. Reloop tried it with their notation turntable but the torque power isn't there so the notation controller response time sounds slurred and isn't nearly as instant or tight as the Controller 1s were when it comes to TT notation playing. So please let them know that turntablists would kill for some new C-1 type turntables.
For me the next step in the evolution of digital Dj-ing surely has to be a mixer with the software built in and Wi-Fi connectivity? Teamed up with these that would be the ultimate setup! No more laptop. All the benefits of modern tech but with that original 12" moving platter experience.
I've been saying the same thing for about 13 years. I have never used a Laptop to DJ. The Raine 12 is almost perfect except you still need a bulky, unstable Laptop and it needs a 4% pitch for House and Techno. I can't tell you how many times I've been at events and someones Laptop crashes or their battery dies ect. I love the 12" platter and Rane makes solid products, I still use the Rane Empath Rotary mixer, however I opted for the Denon 6000M because it has way more options and it takes SD cards, USB 3.0 Thumb drives, and a Terabyte drive so you can have your full collection inside without the risky, annoying laptop 😎 I just wish the Denon had a larger platter.... my 35 year quest for the perfect set up continues.....
I got them a couple of weeks ago, best thing i ever bought. I use them with Serato and Rekorbox . I notice my beat juggles are more on time then when i was using my turntable. but it is maybe because my turntables are 20 years old and need some work on them ,lol but it is a great purchase.
If you're not invested in vinyl and looking for a turntable like setup without the maintenance of cartridges/needles etc these need to be on your shopping list, the build quality is excellent & I they just work out of the box.
I currently use Traktor 3 using PLX1000's with Phase DJ - my question is what would technically be more accurate? the Phase or the Rane 12 ? I'm curious 🤔
Now with the One controller release, I hope they next add a Seven... a smaller Twelve Mk2 with a few minor updates, like a button for loading a track to the prepare crate(with shift function of opening and closing the prepare tab), and the stip time control on the One, etc...
@@jayq7463 , yes, for the price, this is functionally a spinning jogwheel with not a lot of other control or functionality... I get that some people want the full 12" vinyl feel, but I would think that there may be a nice market for something in the 7"-10" range...and it could be more compact...if they use the platters and components that make the ONE controller, to make "decks" there'd be room to offer a handful of other Serato controls the Twelve don't have... and still be more compact that the Twelve is... Just my thinking, coming from someone who doesn't necessarily need the full 12" platter, but WOULD enjoy spinning platter decks ( contemplating a pair of Denon decks) , Decks as opposed to the ONE controller gives some flexibility and modularity to the setup, depending on the event, there's just a few small issues with the ONE that keeps me from being able to use that... if it was offered with a more fully featured 4ch mixer section that would be nearly perfect for my uses... I frequently need 2 mics, 2 decks, and at least one other audio input source to mix with... etc... So in short, yes....smaller platters for a pair of decks would be awesome for SOME people. ...
Crossfader I would be quite happy for you to review my rane twelves for review . Still brandnew I’m in London but would drop them of before I break em please help
CF, if you have any connections whatsoever with Rane, Denon, Numark, etc. PLEASE let them know we need their version of Vestax's now-legendary Controller 1 turntable with notation controls. Reloop tried it with their notation turntable but the torque power isn't there so the notation controller response time sounds slurred and isn't nearly as instant or tight as the Controller 1s were when it comes to TT notation playing. So please let them know that turntablists would kill for some new C-1 type turntables.
i have two and im glad i did not get the first version because the mk2s are a great upgrade.I do not play on them enough because where i am there is a limited amount of time i get to spend on them .If i had my way i would be practicing all day everyday
Question about the "no beat drift, as it's a controller". That is the one drawback I've heard about these. I keep hearing about beat drift with these. Only thing holding me back, as they sound like the perfect solution for me. Do they really drift or not? They seem to, based on user input.
It's possible to use a RANE Twelve MKII as a third deck on an old Pioneer DDJ-T1 using the DVS signal in the controller and the USB directly in the computer?
Can I just buy one of these first and pair it with Serato through MacBook Pro 2021 just to start practicing? Or must I have a mixer first- starting day one?
I have a Traktor S4 Mk3 with Traktor pro 3.6 on my computer. so if I connected it would it still have the screen with the BPM or would it be just like DJing with vinyl?
I have a pair of these twelves had nothing but trouble with these things can’t hold pitch and quartz lock both decks don’t run in sync had these for a few years now give up mixing because of being lumbered with these .
Some DJ's just prefer how Serato reacts with a DVS signal, personally I couldn't tell too much of a difference but that said I'm more used to using Serato with controllers than I am using Serato with a DVS signal. The great thing about the MK2 however is that you can do both, so find what suits you best :)
@@Crossfader can the controller part be midi mapped with rekordbox to retain that functionality. Or are you locked out of the “hybrid mode” if you are a RB user?
I leaned this trick with Technics back in the 90's Rave scene. While in 33RPM mode, simply hold that button down and "tap" the 45RPM button. It briefly speeds up the BPM when your incoming track is slightly behind. If you the new track you are bringing in is slightly ahead, you can lightly brush the side of the platter with a finger or pinch the platter Pin. 😎
Hi! Great review! My question is, if you need a mixer with usb integrated or with a non integrated usb the twelve will work in internal mode controling the 4 decks? Thanks a lot!
The Twelve will work in internal mode which ever way you connect it to your PC. Even if your mixer doesn't include a hub, you can connect these directly and it will be fine. You will however need a mixer or interface capable of outputing four channels to control all four decks. Hope this helps!
Guys , do you think Rane12mk2 would work with Numark NS7III conected via USB to the spare screen port? Would love to add it to my setup, however cant find any info.
These should be clubs as the standards!! Why are we worshiping CDJ’s and DJM 900 mixer. Yes they are familiar but if that’s the case why even invent any other mixer or player if we are just gonna use the same thing??
Hola Agustín, resulta que tengo una mesa Mixars Quattro, y estoy pensando en adquirir 1 unidad para pinchar House. La cuestión es que si con solo 1 unidad se podría pinchar con hasta 4 decks, tu que los tienes crees que me saldría buena compra solo adquirir 1 Rane twelve MK2 para pinchar e ir cambiando los decks con el? Te agradecería mucho tu consejo. 😉
@@juanillo93 Hola Juan que tal estamos? si te dá esa opción de tener varias capas, lo que si comentarte que los Rane Tuelwe Mk2 tienen tanto salida RCA como Cable USB para una conexión mejor, tu mesa creo que no tiene entrada para meterle este conector..Intenté conectarlo tan solo con RCA y no fui capaz de hacerlo sonar..Piensatelo bien e investigalo antes de dar el paso..Un saludo y ya me comentas.
@@agustingarciafernandez8582 Muchas gracias Agustín! Pues eso estoy haciendo, investigando y al parecer si que puede, porque como tú bien dices se debe conectar RCA + USB pero el USB al portátil también sirve!. Mira a ver si puedes probar por mí la siguiente configuración con solo 1 Rane: 1-Enchufas el twelve por USB al portátil y los RCA a la mesa. 2- Pones el twelve en modo interno. 3- Debería funcionar con los 4 decks. Este muchacho del link que te dejo lo hace así y le funciona, aunque el usa una mesa con USB integrados, pero en teoría da igual. th-cam.com/video/dmEvrDV8pI8/w-d-xo.html Ya me dirás! Un saludo!
Not good enough, not be a standalone turntable (no connection to a computer) with a display, SD or USB slots installed to load songs to the unit. A true independent unit that be hookup to a Amp or mixer without a computer.
that is my view as well, I think I'm going to go for them shortly but can't help thinking how much i'd love a USB stick input using the basic little screen they've put on the mk2 to do non PC spontaneous stick mixing, that would be such a great addition.
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CF, if you have any connections whatsoever with Rane, Denon, Numark, etc. PLEASE let them know we need their version of Vestax's now-legendary Controller 1 turntable with notation controls. Reloop tried it with their notation turntable but the torque power isn't there so the notation controller response time sounds slurred and isn't nearly as instant or tight as the Controller 1s were when it comes to TT notation playing. So please let them know that turntablists would kill for some new C-1 type turntables.
For me the next step in the evolution of digital Dj-ing surely has to be a mixer with the software built in and Wi-Fi connectivity? Teamed up with these that would be the ultimate setup! No more laptop. All the benefits of modern tech but with that original 12" moving platter experience.
Yes! I thought about that the other day. Why not a stand alone mixer with a nice size screen, and WiFi capability.
I've been saying the same thing for about 13 years. I have never used a Laptop to DJ. The Raine 12 is almost perfect except you still need a bulky, unstable Laptop and it needs a 4% pitch for House and Techno. I can't tell you how many times I've been at events and someones Laptop crashes or their battery dies ect. I love the 12" platter and Rane makes solid products, I still use the Rane Empath Rotary mixer, however I opted for the Denon 6000M because it has way more options and it takes SD cards, USB 3.0 Thumb drives, and a Terabyte drive so you can have your full collection inside without the risky, annoying laptop 😎 I just wish the Denon had a larger platter.... my 35 year quest for the perfect set up continues.....
I got them a couple of weeks ago, best thing i ever bought. I use them with Serato and Rekorbox . I notice my beat juggles are more on time then when i was using my turntable. but it is maybe because my turntables are 20 years old and need some work on them ,lol but it is a great purchase.
Glad you're enjoying them!
im sold, going to pick up a pair this week
If you're not invested in vinyl and looking for a turntable like setup without the maintenance of cartridges/needles etc these need to be on your shopping list, the build quality is excellent & I they just work out of the box.
I got to admit Crossfader gives you
everything DJS need to know..Great review
by the way👍👌💙..
Thank you :)
Does the MKII Come with the White Platter or Just the Black?
I currently use Traktor 3 using PLX1000's with Phase DJ - my question is what would technically be more accurate? the Phase or the Rane 12 ?
I'm curious 🤔
The no pitch bend the old way sucks thanks for mentioning that.
Now with the One controller release, I hope they next add a Seven... a smaller Twelve Mk2 with a few minor updates, like a button for loading a track to the prepare crate(with shift function of opening and closing the prepare tab), and the stip time control on the One, etc...
smaller?
@@jayq7463 , yes, for the price, this is functionally a spinning jogwheel with not a lot of other control or functionality... I get that some people want the full 12" vinyl feel, but I would think that there may be a nice market for something in the 7"-10" range...and it could be more compact...if they use the platters and components that make the ONE controller, to make "decks" there'd be room to offer a handful of other Serato controls the Twelve don't have... and still be more compact that the Twelve is...
Just my thinking, coming from someone who doesn't necessarily need the full 12" platter, but WOULD enjoy spinning platter decks ( contemplating a pair of Denon decks) , Decks as opposed to the ONE controller gives some flexibility and modularity to the setup, depending on the event, there's just a few small issues with the ONE that keeps me from being able to use that... if it was offered with a more fully featured 4ch mixer section that would be nearly perfect for my uses... I frequently need 2 mics, 2 decks, and at least one other audio input source to mix with... etc...
So in short, yes....smaller platters for a pair of decks would be awesome for SOME people. ...
@@isaiahfurrow7414 that’s just silly…. smaller. Just buy a rane one or the pioneers dj turntable controller. Problem solved
Crossfader I would be quite happy for you to review my rane twelves for review . Still brandnew I’m in London but would drop them of before I break em please help
So nice,,, brilliant info thankyou...cant wait to get a a pair....love your vids
CF, if you have any connections whatsoever with Rane, Denon, Numark, etc. PLEASE let them know we need their version of Vestax's now-legendary Controller 1 turntable with notation controls. Reloop tried it with their notation turntable but the torque power isn't there so the notation controller response time sounds slurred and isn't nearly as instant or tight as the Controller 1s were when it comes to TT notation playing. So please let them know that turntablists would kill for some new C-1 type turntables.
i have two and im glad i did not get the first version because the mk2s are a great upgrade.I do not play on them enough because where i am there is a limited amount of time i get to spend on them .If i had my way i would be practicing all day everyday
So nice. No regrets ever buying this
Coolest, does deck swap work in DVS mode?
This is beautiful
Question about the "no beat drift, as it's a controller". That is the one drawback I've heard about these. I keep hearing about beat drift with these. Only thing holding me back, as they sound like the perfect solution for me. Do they really drift or not? They seem to, based on user input.
not trying to hate, just want the right solution
I had bought them about a month ago and ended up returning them because of the beat drift not sure why they were doing it though
@@curtroc7757 if you use the RCA out instead is one of the workarounds for beat drifting
Has this issue been resolved does anybody know?
Turn off platter drift in the software settings
Can you use a technics 1210mk2 and one of this at the same time with the same mixer? This controlling the laptop and technics both laptop and vinyl?
It's possible to use a RANE Twelve MKII as a third deck on an old Pioneer DDJ-T1 using the DVS signal in the controller and the USB directly in the computer?
I miss rane 12s but having changed to Denon I own now denon prime 4 and my question if this mk2 would work with denon anytime soon?
Thanks in advance
Can I just buy one of these first and pair it with Serato through MacBook Pro 2021 just to start practicing? Or must I have a mixer first- starting day one?
You’re gonna need some type of mixer
Do you remember years ago newmart cat that sang turntable CDJ that was nice and they need to bring it back out again range is good
Hi 👋 im thinking about building my setup with the DDJ1000SRT and 2 turntables, which turntables could you recommend me?
Now for example, first I have the Serato Rane sl1 and the Denon analog mixer, would that will work with those decks?
This is dope using with traktor z2
I have z2. About to upgrade crossfader . 60quid for a new inovader mini.. ! I thought this pairs with the rane seventy two mk2
Traktor Z2 with one D2 & one Rane 12 MK2 would be a cool Traktor Pro 3 setup imo, to control decks and stems, navigate, scratch & fx
Does the quick release clamp fit the SC5000M? I would like to buy it, if it fits nicely
I've never tried it personally but I'm told the quick release does work on the 5000m :)
Yes you can buy them from Amazon, Rock and Soul, or 12" Skinz to name a few stores.
Could I plug 2 of these in to my pioneer xz ?
I have a Traktor S4 Mk3 with Traktor pro 3.6 on my computer. so if I connected it would it still have the screen with the BPM or would it be just like DJing with vinyl?
Hi, did you try it? What happened?
so it has no audio out to be connected to an analogo mixer. IE: laptop with serato to rane 12MK2 to analog mixer to... speakers.???
Can this connect to the Rane one dj controller ?
Will it works with pioneer sx3?
So this will now work with an SL3?
does it overlap with pro3 ?
Would I need to use a USB hub if I would use the Numark scratch with the 12’s MKII
Yes you would unless you have enough USB ports on your computer
This one, or Reloop rp8000?
I have a pair of these twelves had nothing but trouble with these things can’t hold pitch and quartz lock both decks don’t run in sync had these for a few years now give up mixing because of being lumbered with these .
Just for the info, is there a difference between say, Serato DVS vs Serato Controller mode using these?
Some DJ's just prefer how Serato reacts with a DVS signal, personally I couldn't tell too much of a difference but that said I'm more used to using Serato with controllers than I am using Serato with a DVS signal. The great thing about the MK2 however is that you can do both, so find what suits you best :)
good day CROSSFADER, do have merchandise? (shirt, cap and jacket) thank you more power!
Its cool n all but whens the awesome crossfader merch coming? ;)
Any vibe with it working on Rekordbox?
There's a slight bit of drift as there's no noise map like with Serato but it's completely useable!
@@Crossfader can the controller part be midi mapped with rekordbox to retain that functionality. Or are you locked out of the “hybrid mode” if you are a RB user?
@@Syn0510 I imagine it is capable of being mapped, just unsure how the touch strip reacts. I'll give it a go when I can :)
@@Crossfader that would be super dope. I really like these units but not enough to switch out of RB for them
I need 3 of these
Why not put a tonearm on it and get the best of both worlds?
Exactly
If you're wanting a turntable with added USB performance controls, take a look at the Reloop RP8000Mk2 :)
This design with the puck in the midle that messures the position would mean that it would only work for 45s though
How do you use the 33 and 45 buttons to pitch blend?
I leaned this trick with Technics back in the 90's Rave scene. While in 33RPM mode, simply hold that button down and "tap" the 45RPM button. It briefly speeds up the BPM when your incoming track is slightly behind. If you the new track you are bringing in is slightly ahead, you can lightly brush the side of the platter with a finger or pinch the platter Pin. 😎
Hi! Great review! My question is, if you need a mixer with usb integrated or with a non integrated usb the twelve will work in internal mode controling the 4 decks?
Thanks a lot!
The Twelve will work in internal mode which ever way you connect it to your PC. Even if your mixer doesn't include a hub, you can connect these directly and it will be fine. You will however need a mixer or interface capable of outputing four channels to control all four decks. Hope this helps!
@@Crossfader Thank you so much!
does it work on virtual dj and traktor?
In DVS mode it does :)
Controller looks awesome
I can't get the OLED screen to light up and show the BPM when using Virtual DJ
Does it work with rekordbox?
This! I've only heard it works with Rekordbox DVS but I've never seen someone use it or explain how that functions any differently than not-DVS
Yes it does work perfectly with rekordbox, I’m currently using mine with rekordbox, no issues so far.
He literally explains it in the video....
It does with the unit in Serato DVS mode. Sadly we doubt there will ever be a HID mode as Rekordbox only officially supports Pioneer DJ hardware
Im confused, i thought these were arm/cartridge free record players. I thought it read the vinyl by some sort of laser under the platter.
It is a controller
There is no such thing. What article were u reading….
Man, still not compatible with rekordbox
Nice vid. Kudos.
Anyone know if this works with the Traktor app on iPad (without the need for hardware mixer)
Guys , do you think Rane12mk2 would work with Numark NS7III conected via USB to the spare screen port? Would love to add it to my setup, however cant find any info.
It'll probably work. Even if it doesn't, you can still use it with RCA's with a DVS signal either on channel 3 or 4.
i wish Denon releases SC12000M, a motorized 12" fucking CDJ
These should be clubs as the standards!! Why are we worshiping CDJ’s and DJM 900 mixer. Yes they are familiar but if that’s the case why even invent any other mixer or player if we are just gonna use the same thing??
Hola señores por mi experiencia van fenomenal con la mesa Mirxars duo mk2, por si a alguien le sirve, saludos y mucha salud.
Hola Agustín, resulta que tengo una mesa Mixars Quattro, y estoy pensando en adquirir 1 unidad para pinchar House. La cuestión es que si con solo 1 unidad se podría pinchar con hasta 4 decks, tu que los tienes crees que me saldría buena compra solo adquirir 1 Rane twelve MK2 para pinchar e ir cambiando los decks con el? Te agradecería mucho tu consejo. 😉
@@juanillo93 Hola Juan que tal estamos? si te dá esa opción de tener varias capas, lo que si comentarte que los Rane Tuelwe Mk2 tienen tanto salida RCA como Cable USB para una conexión mejor, tu mesa creo que no tiene entrada para meterle este conector..Intenté conectarlo tan solo con RCA y no fui capaz de hacerlo sonar..Piensatelo bien e investigalo antes de dar el paso..Un saludo y ya me comentas.
@@agustingarciafernandez8582 Muchas gracias Agustín! Pues eso estoy haciendo, investigando y al parecer si que puede, porque como tú bien dices se debe conectar RCA + USB pero el USB al portátil también sirve!. Mira a ver si puedes probar por mí la siguiente configuración con solo 1 Rane:
1-Enchufas el twelve por USB al portátil y los RCA a la mesa.
2- Pones el twelve en modo interno.
3- Debería funcionar con los 4 decks.
Este muchacho del link que te dejo lo hace así y le funciona, aunque el usa una mesa con USB integrados, pero en teoría da igual.
th-cam.com/video/dmEvrDV8pI8/w-d-xo.html
Ya me dirás! Un saludo!
Not good enough, not be a standalone turntable (no connection to a computer) with a display, SD or USB slots installed to load songs to the unit. A true independent unit that be hookup to a Amp or mixer without a computer.
that is my view as well, I think I'm going to go for them shortly but can't help thinking how much i'd love a USB stick input using the basic little screen they've put on the mk2 to do non PC spontaneous stick mixing, that would be such a great addition.
I only wish they design to look like turntables instead of a big square with a spinning platter. Am I the only one that notices this.
Just saw a rane 12 go 120mph... 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Never in my life will i ever buy a controller that physically moves
I love you guys but you're getting a little carried away with the commercials in the middle of the videos...
Ahh thanks for the reminder... TH-cam automatically activated mid roll ads on all videos. It’s something we need to change.
not for no $899.00 !!!! I'm good
WHY DOES IT LOOK SO BIG
Prefiro a mk2
Blah blah blah, where's the demonstration?
what a missed opportunity by technics. lose money...
They had one Technics SL-DZ1200. It wasn't well loved.
Can you connect this and use it with the ddj 1000srt