Thanks for the video it was very informative and to the point. I really wanted to see these tables used with a different mixer, and grasp an understanding of the Rane 12's. This was spot on!
Thanks! I agree. The only people I see that talk down on this mixer are people that are comparing it to the S9, 70 or 72. Other than that, everyone I know loves this mixer.
Im gonna tell you something. The 12s are good but my setup is 2 Numark V7s and The Numark Scratch mixer. More control over everything and you can find the V7s cheaper than the Scratch mixer. Great video on the Rane 12s.
i will be getting a pair of these as the RCAS and timcode mean i dont need to buy the expensive Rane mixers to start using them and i have been waiting for something like this for years.
i have the Numark Scratch and though it has its quirks i have been seriously creative but these mk2s will be my main decks and having the Numark Scratch will go well with these .
MY first Twelve MKI had a motor issue that had to be sent off to get fixed. The returned unit was damaged so I complained and Rane sent me a new Twelve which hasn't had any issues at all. I gave it a full year without issues before I decided to get a second Twelve and that is when the MKII was released. Hopefully Rane resolved whatever motor issues they went through with the previous editions of the Twelve.
I would say... THNK U VERY MUCH.. GREAT CONTENT AND WELL INFORMED US ABOUT THE IN's AND OUT's!! got a pair of rane twelve's for a price of 1 because of your previous vids and this one!!
Love your videos Bro. Keep up the good work. I have a question that I am hoping you can answer. I currently switched from the Numark V7 to Turntables and noticed that when I move the pitch slider the wavelength / beatgrid would not expand or contract as it would on some controllers. For example if I am moving the pitch slider to match a song playing at 122 BPM up to another song at 124 BPM only the BPM values would change. The actual wavelength / beatgrid would not change to match the other song. Can you tell me if the rane twelves are the same or if they actually make the wavelength / beatgrid expand or contract as you move the pitch slider. Thanks
Thanks for watching! I believe the Twelves will make the waves expand and contract. I can’t remember exactly because I don’t have the Twelves anymore. I went back to turntables and sometimes switch out with a Rev-1.
Cordell Granger Thanks! I think you will really like this setup if you get it. I’m going to shoot a video of my opinion of the Numark Scratch after having used it for a while now. Basically I still love it and highly recommend it.
update if you go to my you tube site you will see a quick video of my new Rane 12s and how they are set up with everything else.Its really just a quick video of them and the rest of my gear instead of me playing.I like these machines.A new mixer is next though theres no hurry as yet as i have the Numark Scratch and i am unsure which mixer i will get.There are several very good models from Rane,Pioneer,and Re Loop.
Any chance you can give me your exact setup? I have the Numark Scratch and a pair of Rane Twelve MKII much like your setup. The problem I'm having is I'm getting double track play. It sounds like I'm mixing the same track together but the beats are slightly off. New to DJaying and I'm not sure how to correct this.
Hey, I don't have the Twelves any more but when I used them with my Numark scratch I used them connected to a USB 3.0 hub. It sounds like you need to calibrate the pitch on one of your Twelves. I had an issue where the speeds would not match up and it ended up being the pitch calibration. Look through my list of videos for Rane Twelve Pitch Calibration. I hope that helps.
logisticalstyles it was E Pawn on Riverdale Rd, I just got back , I haven’t even opened the boxes yet lol, there brand new , now I’m going to buy the Numark Scratch mixer from someone here in ATL on the FB market
Hey, love your informative videos. Just a quick question. do you know if there is any way to connect to the Rane Twelves to a non-serato mixer like the Behringer DDM4000?. I currently have two Numark V7 and want to upgrade to the Rane Twelves but would love to keep my DDM4000. I was wondering if I could use the Denon DS1 to make this work.
Thanks for watching! If you have the Denon DS1 then you can use your mixer with the Twelves. The Twelves are just a Serato accessory, so they can be added to any Serato DJ set up. The V7s are a little different because they have a Serato soundcard built into them while the Twelves are just MIDI controllers.
@@logisticalstyles Thanks a lot for the response. I love my V7s but they are not supported beyond High Sierra on my MAC. I also don't want to get rid of my DDM4000. I will look into replacing the V7s with the Twelves and use the Denon DS1 to make the connection.
Got a question, I can't seem to get the performance pads to trigger cues (they set them but don't play them) nor does the loop knob work... is there something I gotta do? I got Rane Twelves and a Numark Scratch utilizing Serato DJ Pro. Any help is appreciated, been pulling my hair out for way too long on this.
For this setup, do you plug each Rane 12 into the computer via USB, and then connect the Numark Scratch mixer to the computer via USB as well? So the Rane 12s wouldn't be directly connected to the mixer (when in USB mode, not DVS).
@@logisticalstyles thanks for the reply! Do you think it makes any difference if both controllers and mixers are plugged into a USB hub which plugs into the laptop with one USB port, versus all three devices plugging directly into the laptop via 3 USB ports?
Great video, amazing comparison. Seems like mk1 would be all I need ☺ You mentioned there was a quick release for the "vinyl" on both, but I thought the mk1 needed a tool to adjust it?
Thanks for watching the video! The Rane Twelve MKI had two versions before the official MKII was released . The original Twelve with the ports and power switch on the back used the tool. Rane released another version with recessed ports and power switch on the bottom. That one came with the quick release adapter and is also technically an MKI.
I haven't put a lot of time into comparing them but I guess I should. I just didn't notice enough of a difference to make me want to connect another pair of cables.
I don't have the Rane Twelves anymore but I didn't use the DVS function on the MKII. I relied on the USB cables for HID mode. I tested the DVS when I first got the deck but I didn't like having to use the RCA cables for DVS.
They don’t connect to the mixer but they can be used with it. The Twelves connect via USB to your laptop. I use a simple hub to connect them to my computer. If you have the MKII then you can use DVS mode to connect to the mixer but you would have the other features of the decks. You have to connect to the USB in order to use the scroll knob, instant doubles, cue points on the touch strip, etc.
Really appreciate this detailed review, man! Do you find DVS mode to feel better than USB (HID?) mode? I'm definitely going this route, but need to determine the best mode to use. Also, do they feel BETTER than plain ole 1200s and a DVS record. Thanks again!!!
Thanks for checking out the video. The biggest difference I noticed between the modes was USB mode is more consistent. When in DVS mode I could see some very small changes in the BPM like you would see on a normal turntable. USB mode kept a consistent BPM. It's hard to say what feels better for me will be the same for you but I will say that I have more fun using the Twelves than using my old 1200s.
Hi there. As I was watching your video, I noticed a ham noise every time you put your arms on the equipment. And it went away when you lift your arm from it. Something is wrong with your ground. Check the power extension to make sure you have a good ground. Sometimes it causes issues on the software. Thank you for the vudeo. 👍.
Can u help me out. I have numark scratch already. So how do you connect these devices are all three devices going to be connected as usb to the laptop or are they dvs and only the numark scratch connected as usb?
Can you use folder navigation from Rane MK2? Because I understood you can't go in/out from Numark right? I wonder if we miss any functionality from Rane MK2 by using RCA connection. Have you tried it?
Yes, with the Twelve MKII there is a Back button that allows you to navigate in and out of crates. You can't do that with the Numark Scratch. I only briefly tried using the RCAs. I need to revisit that. That could be the subject of my next video.
Nope, no absolute mode with the MKII. Absolute mode refers to the needle position on the record and since there is no needle there is no Absolute mode.
Are you using a USB hub? Also make sure you have a version of Serato DJ Pro that supports the Twelve or the Scratch. When I first got my Twelves I couldn't get things to work until I updated my Serato version.
Yes I am using USB hub, like I said DVS work fine but no cue or stroll mode so I will check my serato pro .Do I just need to update or download another version of serato pro because my Numark scratch mixer work fine with it
The Rane Twelves just need to be connected to the computer with a USB cable. Mixers like the Rane Seventy and Seventy Two have USB hubs built in which allow you to bypass connecting directly to the computer. In this video I am using a Numark Scratch mixer which does not have USB ports built in so I have to connect it directly to my computer. Since my computer does not have enough USB ports I must use a USB hub to be able to connect all of the equipment to my computer.
I've been in situation I was going back and forth seeing what was going to work DVS or USB mode none was working then it went hay wire playing backwards,I couldn't get to play mode nothing was working, It was so bad I couldn't do my set,it was the most embarrassing situation I was in with my equipment. Serato wasn't interacting well with none of the modes
I got a fairly new S9 in a case with the deck saver if anyone want to make an offer. I got the Rane 70. I was gonna use the S9 with my 1200's but I think I want the S11 or S7. Use the 70 with my Rane 12's
@@logisticalstyles yeah I say I'll sale my S9 It's the Limited Edition. I mean the mixer is basically brand new. But you know how we are, we like to have backup equipment.
@@logisticalstyles If I had room in my studio/music room I would set up both sets of turntables but not enough room. Plus I only have 1 laptop right now.
Thanks for the video it was very informative and to the point. I really wanted to see these tables used with a different mixer, and grasp an understanding of the Rane 12's. This was spot on!
I’m glad it helped!
nice cuts!! That mixer is so underrated, reminds me of the 57 back in the day.
Thanks! I agree. The only people I see that talk down on this mixer are people that are comparing it to the S9, 70 or 72. Other than that, everyone I know loves this mixer.
@@logisticalstyles i have the mk2 with the same mixer but my songs keep starting 20 sec into the songs need help
Finally someone talked about the RCA plug and the difference. Thank you for showing this!
Thanks for checking out the video!
Kids today will never understand why nickels and dimes were a DJ's best friend.
EXCELLENT!!! You answered every question I had before I even could ask..
Im gonna tell you something. The 12s are good but my setup is 2 Numark V7s and The Numark Scratch mixer. More control over everything and you can find the V7s cheaper than the Scratch mixer. Great video on the Rane 12s.
I have the same set up, the v7s were way ahead of their time
@@rjmn1 Yessir! The Best Bang for your Buck!!!
Your videos are always informative brother, thank you. Awesome
Thanks!
Very good evaluation. It helped me to decide where to go. Tks
Dope set up!!! I think imma rock this set up!!!
i will be getting a pair of these as the RCAS and timcode mean i dont need to buy the expensive Rane mixers to start using them and i have been waiting for something like this for years.
Man you right I got the mixer duo and I’m happy with that
i have the Numark Scratch and though it has its quirks i have been seriously creative but these mk2s will be my main decks and having the Numark Scratch will go well with these .
These go very well with the Numark Scratch. The library navigation and Instant doubles makes the workflow with the Numark Scratch so much easier.
good luck with those 12's....sent both mine back cause they never fixed the motor issues and am sure the mk2 will eventually have the same issues
MY first Twelve MKI had a motor issue that had to be sent off to get fixed. The returned unit was damaged so I complained and Rane sent me a new Twelve which hasn't had any issues at all. I gave it a full year without issues before I decided to get a second Twelve and that is when the MKII was released. Hopefully Rane resolved whatever motor issues they went through with the previous editions of the Twelve.
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I would say... THNK U VERY MUCH.. GREAT CONTENT AND WELL INFORMED US ABOUT THE IN's AND OUT's!! got a pair of rane twelve's for a price of 1 because of your previous vids and this one!!
Nice! Sounds like you found a great deal.
Love your videos Bro. Keep up the good work. I have a question that I am hoping you can answer. I currently switched from the Numark V7 to Turntables and noticed that when I move the pitch slider the wavelength / beatgrid would not expand or contract as it would on some controllers. For example if I am moving the pitch slider to match a song playing at 122 BPM up to another song at 124 BPM only the BPM values would change. The actual wavelength / beatgrid would not change to match the other song. Can you tell me if the rane twelves are the same or if they actually make the wavelength / beatgrid expand or contract as you move the pitch slider.
Thanks
Thanks for watching! I believe the Twelves will make the waves expand and contract. I can’t remember exactly because I don’t have the Twelves anymore. I went back to turntables and sometimes switch out with a Rev-1.
@@logisticalstyles thanks for your response
Great video review! I am considering this setup and I think I’m going to finally do it!
Cordell Granger Thanks! I think you will really like this setup if you get it. I’m going to shoot a video of my opinion of the Numark Scratch after having used it for a while now. Basically I still love it and highly recommend it.
U are my spirit brother man..frfr!
Thanks for the video, I m using a Numark scratch mixer with RANE12 MKI if I upgrade to the Rane12 MKII will I still need a USB hub
Yes, you will.
Ok Thanks
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update if you go to my you tube site you will see a quick video of my new Rane 12s and how they are set up with everything else.Its really just a quick video of them and the rest of my gear instead of me playing.I like these machines.A new mixer is next though theres no hurry as yet as i have the Numark Scratch and i am unsure which mixer i will get.There are several very good models from Rane,Pioneer,and Re Loop.
Can you post up a link for the video on how to connect the rane 12s to the numark mixer? Thnx
Thank you for this video!! You answered a bunch of questions I had ..
You're welcome! Comments like these give me motivation to keep making videos.
Thanks brother,great tutorial
I'm glad it was useful!
Any chance you can give me your exact setup? I have the Numark Scratch and a pair of Rane Twelve MKII much like your setup. The problem I'm having is I'm getting double track play. It sounds like I'm mixing the same track together but the beats are slightly off. New to DJaying and I'm not sure how to correct this.
Hey, I don't have the Twelves any more but when I used them with my Numark scratch I used them connected to a USB 3.0 hub. It sounds like you need to calibrate the pitch on one of your Twelves. I had an issue where the speeds would not match up and it ended up being the pitch calibration. Look through my list of videos for Rane Twelve Pitch Calibration. I hope that helps.
I like the Rane 12's but I think I may buy the reloop turntable because I like the cue points at the bottom of the table.
demetrius alexander yeah and I like that the relook has actual buttons.
DJ Logic, salute bro , I’m actually located here in ATL as well, I’m going to buy a pair of used MK1 at a pawn store in college park
Oh wow, I live near there. Is this the pawn shop on Old National Highway?
logisticalstyles it was E Pawn on Riverdale Rd, I just got back , I haven’t even opened the boxes yet lol, there brand new , now I’m going to buy the Numark Scratch mixer from someone here in ATL on the FB market
logisticalstyles hey, how do I actually get both Rane 12s & Numark Scratch mixer connected to my MacBook at once ??
Dope Tutorial.... Thank you Brother,,, 🙏🏿
Hey, love your informative videos. Just a quick question. do you know if there is any way to connect to the Rane Twelves to a non-serato mixer like the Behringer DDM4000?. I currently have two Numark V7 and want to upgrade to the Rane Twelves but would love to keep my DDM4000. I was wondering if I could use the Denon DS1 to make this work.
Thanks for watching! If you have the Denon DS1 then you can use your mixer with the Twelves. The Twelves are just a Serato accessory, so they can be added to any Serato DJ set up. The V7s are a little different because they have a Serato soundcard built into them while the Twelves are just MIDI controllers.
@@logisticalstyles Thanks a lot for the response. I love my V7s but they are not supported beyond High Sierra on my MAC. I also don't want to get rid of my DDM4000. I will look into replacing the V7s with the Twelves and use the Denon DS1 to make the connection.
Got a question, I can't seem to get the performance pads to trigger cues (they set them but don't play them) nor does the loop knob work... is there something I gotta do? I got Rane Twelves and a Numark Scratch utilizing Serato DJ Pro. Any help is appreciated, been pulling my hair out for way too long on this.
Thank you
woooooo that scratching omg !!!
I haven’t seen any videos with anyone using the mixer with vinyl... how is the sound.. also can you the effects, echo out like the S9
I'll have to do a video of the mixer with vinyl. There are no effects for vinyl though, only filter.
For this setup, do you plug each Rane 12 into the computer via USB, and then connect the Numark Scratch mixer to the computer via USB as well?
So the Rane 12s wouldn't be directly connected to the mixer (when in USB mode, not DVS).
Correct. I used a USB hub to connect all three devices. I hardly ever used DVS mode. I was always in USB mode.
@@logisticalstyles thanks for the reply! Do you think it makes any difference if both controllers and mixers are plugged into a USB hub which plugs into the laptop with one USB port, versus all three devices plugging directly into the laptop via 3 USB ports?
Great video, amazing comparison.
Seems like mk1 would be all I need ☺
You mentioned there was a quick release for the "vinyl" on both, but I thought the mk1 needed a tool to adjust it?
Thanks for watching the video! The Rane Twelve MKI had two versions before the official MKII was released . The original Twelve with the ports and power switch on the back used the tool. Rane released another version with recessed ports and power switch on the bottom. That one came with the quick release adapter and is also technically an MKI.
Cool, thanks ☺
Hey there if you want the mk1 I have them as a brand new in box, I’m a pioneer guy 🙂
Great video...can you tell me when using the USBs from the twelves do you use a power USB hub or just a normal USB hub to connect to the mixer
Lol...you answered my question in your Akai mixer video.
i like the compARISON BUT I WAS WONDEREING IF U FELT THE RCA MODE wAS INDEED SHARPER OR NOT ?
I haven't put a lot of time into comparing them but I guess I should. I just didn't notice enough of a difference to make me want to connect another pair of cables.
Great video bro.
Thanks! I'm hoping to get more content out soon.
ok I'm confused. will the bpm and all the features on the mk2 work if you hook it up with just RCA to a serato mixer like the 62
I have the Numark Scratch and MKII. I can't not get DVS to work. Did you new anything else besides the Scratch and MKII? Thanks!
I don't have the Rane Twelves anymore but I didn't use the DVS function on the MKII. I relied on the USB cables for HID mode. I tested the DVS when I first got the deck but I didn't like having to use the RCA cables for DVS.
Where can I buy the rca cables that work with the Rane 12s and numark scratch mixer?
Any RCA cables will work.
Can you connect the Rane 12 to Numark Scratch mixer using USB or is it only used in DVS mode?
They don’t connect to the mixer but they can be used with it. The Twelves connect via USB to your laptop. I use a simple hub to connect them to my computer. If you have the MKII then you can use DVS mode to connect to the mixer but you would have the other features of the decks. You have to connect to the USB in order to use the scroll knob, instant doubles, cue points on the touch strip, etc.
How do I activate USB mode for Rane 12 mkll with my Numark scratch mixer DVS work fine but my cue mode and my stroll is not working what do I do
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Really appreciate this detailed review, man! Do you find DVS mode to feel better than USB (HID?) mode? I'm definitely going this route, but need to determine the best mode to use. Also, do they feel BETTER than plain ole 1200s and a DVS record. Thanks again!!!
Thanks for checking out the video. The biggest difference I noticed between the modes was USB mode is more consistent. When in DVS mode I could see some very small changes in the BPM like you would see on a normal turntable. USB mode kept a consistent BPM. It's hard to say what feels better for me will be the same for you but I will say that I have more fun using the Twelves than using my old 1200s.
@@logisticalstyles Thanks for the instant response! I'm totally sold, now! Stay well, bruh!!!
Hi there. As I was watching your video, I noticed a ham noise every time you put your arms on the equipment. And it went away when you lift your arm from it. Something is wrong with your ground. Check the power extension to make sure you have a good ground. Sometimes it causes issues on the software. Thank you for the vudeo. 👍.
The mk2s work with rekordbox as well in dvs mode
I had my shift button break on the scratch from using it so much for loading songs and instant doubles so the scroll knob on the mk2 would be helpful
Carlos Eguiguren that’s crazy. Were you able to fix the shift button?
logisticalstyles yea i sent it in to numark and they sent me a replacement i now only use the keyboard functions on serato to load tracks
Can i conect only one mkII to the numark scratch and play two songs to do my mix?
Yes, you will need to have Instant doubles enabled in your Serato settings. I use this method often.
Can u help me out. I have numark scratch already. So how do you connect these devices are all three devices going to be connected as usb to the laptop or are they dvs and only the numark scratch connected as usb?
When I use the Twelves with my Numark Scratch I use a USB hub to connect them all to and the hub connects to a single port on my laptop
Nice
Thanks
Can you use folder navigation from Rane MK2? Because I understood you can't go in/out from Numark right? I wonder if we miss any functionality from Rane MK2 by using RCA connection. Have you tried it?
Yes, with the Twelve MKII there is a Back button that allows you to navigate in and out of crates. You can't do that with the Numark Scratch. I only briefly tried using the RCAs. I need to revisit that. That could be the subject of my next video.
@@logisticalstyles thanks. Yes, I guess Rane + Numark would need to be connect using like small usb hub. Just thinking out loud.
Since Rane put RCA connectors underneath and you can use DVS, I know it goes in REL Mode, Can it go in ABS Mode to???
Nope, no absolute mode with the MKII. Absolute mode refers to the needle position on the record and since there is no needle there is no Absolute mode.
Thanks for getting back to me with ABS Mode info.
I can't get my Rane 12 mkll cue mode and USB to work along with Numark scratch mixer with serato pro try everything please help
Are you using a USB hub? Also make sure you have a version of Serato DJ Pro that supports the Twelve or the Scratch. When I first got my Twelves I couldn't get things to work until I updated my Serato version.
Yes I am using USB hub, like I said DVS work fine but no cue or stroll mode so I will check my serato pro .Do I just need to update or download another version of serato pro because my Numark scratch mixer work fine with it
Thanks, the update was all I needed
Do you prefer DVS mode or internal mode
High torque or low torque.
Thanks
I prefer internal USB mode because it requires less wires. I use High torque. Mainly because the discs I'm using are a bit heavy.
@@logisticalstyles Thanks for your feedback
I’m sorry but I have no clue about this. So how do you connect the MK1 to the mixer?
The Rane Twelves just need to be connected to the computer with a USB cable. Mixers like the Rane Seventy and Seventy Two have USB hubs built in which allow you to bypass connecting directly to the computer. In this video I am using a Numark Scratch mixer which does not have USB ports built in so I have to connect it directly to my computer. Since my computer does not have enough USB ports I must use a USB hub to be able to connect all of the equipment to my computer.
@@logisticalstyles thank you, thank you!
I've been in situation I was going back and forth seeing what was going to work DVS or USB mode none was working then it went hay wire playing backwards,I couldn't get to play mode nothing was working, It was so bad I couldn't do my set,it was the most embarrassing situation I was in with my equipment. Serato wasn't interacting well with none of the modes
I got a fairly new S9 in a case with the deck saver if anyone want to make an offer. I got the Rane 70. I was gonna use the S9 with my 1200's but I think I want the S11 or S7. Use the 70 with my Rane 12's
I'm probably gonna upgrade to the 70 and then move the Numark Scratch to my 1200s.
@@logisticalstyles yeah I say I'll sale my S9 It's the Limited Edition. I mean the mixer is basically brand new. But you know how we are, we like to have backup equipment.
@@logisticalstyles If I had room in my studio/music room I would set up both sets of turntables but not enough room. Plus I only have 1 laptop right now.
This buzzing noise when touching players?? Grounding / statics problems or what...?
" the hum you may notice through the video is due to poor electrical grounding in my studio, which is something I need to fix"
No need for the mk2 if ya mixer has all of that.
I agree. Since I only have the Numark Scratch, I like the scroll knob on the MKII. If I had a Seventy or Seventy Two I would not have gotten the MKII.
Can you hook the mk2 to a ddj 1000srt
I'm not sure. It would be interesting to see! I just don't have access to a ddj 1000 SRT