The other issue I wish she had brought up is that if Black ppl can pursue education in STEM in HBCUs they will be less exposed to bias that harms their access and educational experience, so putting Billions into HBCU's STEM programs is very important. For instance, I had a black friend whose brother went to MIT and he told her that for group projects no one would pair with him because they were either afraid of Black men and/or assumed he wasn't capable of solving math problems. Additionally, my sister was naturally good at calculus in high school (which was all-Yt). And so when she took a final and got a higher score than the Yt kids, they made her sit in a room alone after school and take another final which was proctored. She aced it also, but these experiences left her hating math. And when she got full scholarship offers to go the tech schools like Georgia Tech, she rejected them and math altogether. So, providing an environment where the extra barrier of educational prejudice is not part of the equation can also serve to ease Black ppl's experience in these higher education environments by making available HBCUs that technically equal Johns Hopkins and MIT schools.
Poi1gie1, I understand what the problem you spoke about your sister. It's an unfortunate situation. I had a situation where a teacher/ professor had us doing group projects that we are graded upon. I had a full time job plus the several classes I was taken. In order to do this group work, you give these other students your phone number. The first meeting we had was at the end of the class. I informed my classmates that I do work full-time but I would be able to meet with them when everyone would be available. The students didn't even look at me as if I wasn't there. The students apparently met without me and had did whatever their chosen assignment was. I was shut out of the process altogether, and of course got a bad grade. I think it's a bad policy to have your grade dependent upon others, especially when there is biases involved. I don't know what your sister decided to do, but I hope she uses her math skills to show them what she can really do and be a model for young people wanting to achieve greatness.
The parents didn't advocate for the student? My ex and I would have been up in that principal's ass if that were our kid. Our kid would not have taken that test again. The county NAACP chapter would have been notified and a complaint filed with the school district.
@gabbylaughs0574 I agree with you 100%. The school system would be sick of seeing me. My concern with this opinion is the parents who either don't know how to advocate for their child or because of family dynamics don't know their child needs advocating for. Their are children who live in situations who do as much as they can not to be a burden to their parents so something like a retest or not being included in a project they will keep to themselves. I think part of the reason education needs to be at home. Showing parents a different reality so they can encourage their children toward a different reality.
There are black people capable of studying medicine but some of us just don't want to be doctors or they are interested in something else. Some of us just don't want to go to school that long.
Over this past weekend, I was at emergency room in Phila, a city pop. is 39% black . Noticeably, Jefferson Hospital center city had 0 black PA’s, 0 doctors, or nurses during my lengthy ED visit.
That's the one thing we desperately need is black doctors. There should be programs nationwide that steers students into the curriculums that supports the foundation for advance studies. This program must support the student physiologically, financially and academically. Black people are dying substantially at the hands of those whom deem us differently. Something must change.
Charles Barkley said it best: when he goes to schools and asks entire rooms of black kids what they want to be. Most of them want to be athletes and entertainers.
By using the term "Black" whom Dr. Uché Blackstock referred to? Because this label is so diverse: Black born in the U S., Black born in Europe, Black born in the Caribbean, Black born in Asia and Black born in Africa. They can all live in the U.S. but they have different perspectives in regard to professional training and development
We have the same issue in the legal field. They make it very hard for black law students to pass classes because they feel we do not belong there and that we don't have a right to become attorneys. The legal system in which we are underrepresented,, is the system that wants to keep us out...good grief😔
Dr. Blackstock brings up very important points about persistent biases and erroneous beliefs that Black is genetically distinct from other races. Historically Black medical schools have helped put some great doctors into practice. However, it is also very important to recognize that when race is made most important in determining who teaches Black doctors, disaster can occur: the Charles Drew medical school in Los Angeles was well intentioned, but ended up being a debacle; in its teaching hospital, the Martin Luther King Medical Center, incompetently trained and incompetently led Black physicians killed Black patients, and the State of California had to shut it down. They didn't harm patients because they were Black; thee were Black doctors at UCLA and USC doing an excellent job. Similarly, Howard University School of Medicine and the Howard University Hospital in Washington DC deteriorated to te point where emergency medical services would not bring patients to the emergency room, for good reason. I am confident that Howard University can be reformed and return to its proper place as a leader of medical education. Doctors do need to see every patient, regardless of income or skin color, as worthy of the best care they can provide. At the same time, we also need to accept that we cannot completely remove personal responsibility from this situation. Encourage, plead, cajole, persuade a patient to come into clinic, to the ER, to Urgent Care, etc., but sometimes a given patient will refuse and suffer the consequences. Racism has shaped this, but it's not always racism. Sometimes it's the patient's own stupidity. Lastly, this interview is partly about promoting a book for sale. She gets a platform to bring her point across, and her royalty check climbs.
@@cosmicwakes6443 I think what they're saying is once schools talk more about how diseases are detected in people with darker skin, youth might take more to medicine
Here the cycle continues, actual experiential comments is deleted by youtube while the hypothetical comments kept....there is no serious resolve to ever meet that needs from institution
@@rockyracoon3233 it’s many other nationalities that achieve far greater things with less resources … the race card it’s just an excuse you cannot cut it. Blacks have the lowest incomes out of all groups even compared with immigrant groups. It makes it obvious the confounding variable is not what she claims it to be.
If more black people want to be doctors but can't that is terrible. Let's find out why and fix that! Last week you interviewed 1000 black pastors calling for a cease fire in Gaza (only from Israel of course). Priorities?
We know now that modern Europeans have archaic DNA from another species. White people are never judged or thought less of because of it. It's always about race in America. Always. Every. Single. Time.
So your excuse is a report written over 100 years ago. Now explain the drop in numbers of male black doctors from the 1940s until now. Are you saying the country has become more racist. I'll propose another answer, one based in personal experience in working with colleagues at an HBCU. They had very lucrative fellowships for graduate education across all STEM fields exclusively for minority students. They couldn't find enough black students to even come close to filling half the slots, even their own graduates turned them down. Why, the top STEM undergrads knew that they could get an MBA in 2 years and make as much or more than a PhD or MD. They followed the money, because they knew that this was the best thing to do for themselves and their families. If you try to engineer change overnight, you'll only do it by lowering standards and making the problem worse in the long run.
Too many Americans have paranoia about many things including medical treatment! Around the world this is not the way it is! Here in Canada we don't see these issues if you are sick the emergency room is open for you and it doesn't cost anything
It's due to American history. Black people were often unknowingly experimented on as recently as the late 1900s. Poor people of any race/ethnicity in general often receive worse medical treatment in the US, and many people go broke in the US if they get cancer or some other serious chronic illness, so there's good reason to be "paranoid" in the States about medical treatment. Healthcare is a privilege in the US - not a human right.
Curiously, out side the USA, Dr Uche would probably not be seen as black…despite her surname. Why is USA so hung up on this. I describe myself as pink and blotchy…not white. If you think about it dark skin is the human natural state, and still predominant skin tone. So rather than people of colour, we should perhaps say, people who have not lost their colour.
After all the talking, the question still remains. why are there not more black doctors? That is the question. After all of her talking points about micro, aggression and culture, come back and answer the question now.
So a report that came out 114 years ago and racism is why we don't have more black doctors. And the closing of black medical schools. Again like a hundred years ago. I guess it's possible. Maybe it's a contributing factor. I can't help but wonder how big of a factor these things are - in comparison to the dismal state of k-12 public education in this country, which is impacting the black community disproportionately. My money is on the latter instead of some old stuff dredged up by this obvious race grifter. If we want better educated black people, then I think we should stand up together and demand higher standards in our education system. That has a better chance of making a positive difference than taking the easy way out by simply blaming the situation on racism. We need to help black students prepare for a career in medicine, not by telling them why they can't, but by making sure they have the proper tools to succeed. That starts with higher standards and accountability in k-12 public education. Not just higher standards for the students, but also real accountability for the schools themselves.
Check the long history of falling SAT scores. Public schools are a failed institution in this country, and they are getting plenty of money. Baltimore public schools, DC public schools - get tons of money. It's the lack of accountability, not the lack of funding.
You call her a race grifter, why? You seem to be also a denier. Whenever someone uses the “race grifter” argument that’s actually code for racism doesn’t exist. When there is categorical statistical data that support this lady’s data. Guys like you know all the answers but probably have never spoken to a black person or spent any significant time in the black community. When adjusted for social economics and education it is a statistical reality that black expectant mothers still have a higher complication rate. Not because they’re stupid, not because they are race hustlers just because there is some medical professional that thinks they know black people and their “problems” just like your arrogant ass. This lady said nothing wrong and discusses issues that would make health care better for all, regardless of race. Which means you didn’t listen you just wrote which tells you are more interested labeling this lady a “race grifter” than making things better because you know all the answers. Whether we like it or not in spite of American’s greatness there issues although legally blacks had the rate to vote since the 15th Amendment that rate wasn’t enforced in America across the board until 1964 nearly 100 years later. Although segregation was struck down in 1954 with Brown case Southern desegregation followed 1970. In addition many public works projects like parks, pools and libraries were closed down in Southern cities to avoid integration and maintain the racial divide. This not only hurt Blacks but also poor and working class whites. No one seems to want to admit is that although America has improved that racism still exists which is the same as patient who has cancer but denies it. It like all this hullabaloo list year about Black people taking Asians slots. Less than 5% of doctors are black which hasn’t changed in decades. It was the legacies taking slots. You speak from the premise that there has never been inequities when this is a categorical untruth that you are unwilling to acknowledge which makes your argument faulty and dingenious from the outset.
I would argue public schools are failing because of lack of parental involvement, which is probably a result of single parent households. Public institutions are run by the people for the people. @@TomdeSabla
@@TheKarenRob Ha ha. "Run by the people for the people" hunh? Wow. A far more accurate formulation would be "run by the teachers unions for the teachers unions." The people have very little input into how public schools systems are run. Even the data on how schools and students are performing is becoming ever more opaque. ** I love how your answer assigns zero blame to the institutions themselves. It's all the parents fault. So, falling SAT scores for decades after decade simply reflects steadily decreasing parental involvement? Ha ha. You are living in la la land. Try reading a book or two and getting yourself educated. I suggest a book by perhaps the greatest black scholar ever - Thomas Sowell. "Inside American Education" Not a new book, but more relevant than ever
How about the extreme cost of a doctor's education.
The other issue I wish she had brought up is that if Black ppl can pursue education in STEM in HBCUs they will be less exposed to bias that harms their access and educational experience, so putting Billions into HBCU's STEM programs is very important. For instance, I had a black friend whose brother went to MIT and he told her that for group projects no one would pair with him because they were either afraid of Black men and/or assumed he wasn't capable of solving math problems. Additionally, my sister was naturally good at calculus in high school (which was all-Yt). And so when she took a final and got a higher score than the Yt kids, they made her sit in a room alone after school and take another final which was proctored. She aced it also, but these experiences left her hating math. And when she got full scholarship offers to go the tech schools like Georgia Tech, she rejected them and math altogether. So, providing an environment where the extra barrier of educational prejudice is not part of the equation can also serve to ease Black ppl's experience in these higher education environments by making available HBCUs that technically equal Johns Hopkins and MIT schools.
It comes back to the books and textbooks. Plus it's 1000 applicants fighting for 25 spots.
Poi1gie1, I understand what the problem you spoke about your sister. It's an unfortunate situation. I had a situation where a teacher/ professor had us doing group projects that we are graded upon. I had a full time job plus the several classes I was taken. In order to do this group work, you give these other students your phone number. The first meeting we had was at the end of the class. I informed my classmates that I do work full-time but I would be able to meet with them when everyone would be available. The students didn't even look at me as if I wasn't there. The students apparently met without me and had did whatever their chosen assignment was. I was shut out of the process altogether, and of course got a bad grade. I think it's a bad policy to have your grade dependent upon others, especially when there is biases involved. I don't know what your sister decided to do, but I hope she uses her math skills to show them what she can really do and be a model for young people wanting to achieve greatness.
The parents didn't advocate for the student? My ex and I would have been up in that principal's ass if that were our kid. Our kid would not have taken that test again. The county NAACP chapter would have been notified and a complaint filed with the school district.
@gabbylaughs0574 I agree with you 100%. The school system would be sick of seeing me.
My concern with this opinion is the parents who either don't know how to advocate for their child or because of family dynamics don't know their child needs advocating for. Their are children who live in situations who do as much as they can not to be a burden to their parents so something like a retest or not being included in a project they will keep to themselves.
I think part of the reason education needs to be at home. Showing parents a different reality so they can encourage their children toward a different reality.
Strange she hated math and not Yt people. Math was not the harm.
There are black people capable of studying medicine but some of us just don't want to be doctors or they are interested in something else. Some of us just don't want to go to school that long.
Over this past weekend, I was at emergency room in Phila, a city pop. is 39% black . Noticeably, Jefferson Hospital center city had 0 black PA’s, 0 doctors, or nurses during my lengthy ED visit.
That scenario scares me.
Excellent interview and doctor thank you ❤
That's the one thing we desperately need is black doctors. There should be programs nationwide that steers students into the curriculums that supports the foundation for advance studies. This program must support the student physiologically, financially and academically. Black people are dying substantially at the hands of those whom deem us differently. Something must change.
This country is not producing(regardless of color) enough native born Dr's period!
Something must change? I think Black America must have their "Man in the mirror" moment.
@@rockyracoon3233 I'm just now seeing your post, what exactly are you talking about?
@hartubmoses6645 . Ever hear the expression, "We've come face to face with the enemy and it's us."
Centuries of crafty counsel they plot against the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Mentioned in Psalm 83. Much love Dr. Blackstock.
I experience severe discrimination at the emergency room as a south asian women with a hefty medical insurance!
Absolutely love Dr. Uche'
The AMA has fought to keep medical school enrollment low for all students. This is a double wammy for black students.
Why ? Betsy devos..n co
Charles Barkley said it best: when he goes to schools and asks entire rooms of black kids what they want to be. Most of them want to be athletes and entertainers.
Great inspirational story.
By using the term "Black" whom Dr. Uché Blackstock referred to? Because this label is so diverse: Black born in the U S., Black born in Europe, Black born in the Caribbean, Black born in Asia and Black born in Africa. They can all live in the U.S. but they have different perspectives in regard to professional training and development
We have the same issue in the legal field. They make it very hard for black law students to pass classes because they feel we do not belong there and that we don't have a right to become attorneys. The legal system in which we are underrepresented,, is the system that wants to keep us out...good grief😔
Sounds victimhoody
Yeah. Look up Abraham Flexner. "Allies." Bravo Sierra.
Dr. Blackstock brings up very important points about persistent biases and erroneous beliefs that Black is genetically distinct from other races. Historically Black medical schools have helped put some great doctors into practice. However, it is also very important to recognize that when race is made most important in determining who teaches Black doctors, disaster can occur: the Charles Drew medical school in Los Angeles was well intentioned, but ended up being a debacle; in its teaching hospital, the Martin Luther King Medical Center, incompetently trained and incompetently led Black physicians killed Black patients, and the State of California had to shut it down. They didn't harm patients because they were Black; thee were Black doctors at UCLA and USC doing an excellent job. Similarly, Howard University School of Medicine and the Howard University Hospital in Washington DC deteriorated to te point where emergency medical services would not bring patients to the emergency room, for good reason. I am confident that Howard University can be reformed and return to its proper place as a leader of medical education. Doctors do need to see every patient, regardless of income or skin color, as worthy of the best care they can provide. At the same time, we also need to accept that we cannot completely remove personal responsibility from this situation. Encourage, plead, cajole, persuade a patient to come into clinic, to the ER, to Urgent Care, etc., but sometimes a given patient will refuse and suffer the consequences. Racism has shaped this, but it's not always racism. Sometimes it's the patient's own stupidity. Lastly, this interview is partly about promoting a book for sale. She gets a platform to bring her point across, and her royalty check climbs.
When black medical schools teach about melanin, more youth would be interested.
What are you talking about?
@@cosmicwakes6443 Look in the mirror
@@cosmicwakes6443 Look at yourself
@@cosmicwakes6443 I think what they're saying is once schools talk more about how diseases are detected in people with darker skin, youth might take more to medicine
@@FirestarOfficialTV You're kidding, right? Goddess, I know exactly what you meant. Please spell it out, don't hold back.
Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish; they are black unto the ground; and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up. - Jeremiah 14:2
Biteth me.
Hell, most of our Dr's here in Los Angeles are foreign born.
I wish this young lady would call me. I have a plan too bring my community up. Are their black doctors who want to help save their own people.
I’m studying to become a psychologist and this scares me to death 😢
Here the cycle continues, actual experiential comments is deleted by youtube while the hypothetical comments kept....there is no serious resolve to ever meet that needs from institution
I found 30,000 Black American doctors. That's pretty high for slave descendants.
There’s Indians and Pakistani that have even less resources but you ignore that because it doesn’t suit your point.
Eastern peoples put value on learning.
@@rockyracoon3233 it’s many other nationalities that achieve far greater things with less resources … the race card it’s just an excuse you cannot cut it. Blacks have the lowest incomes out of all groups even compared with immigrant groups. It makes it obvious the confounding variable is not what she claims it to be.
100% agree
And they face less racism than Black people
This is about black doctors not other doctors. Just saying
Because they're lawyers
If more black people want to be doctors but can't that is terrible. Let's find out why and fix that! Last week you interviewed 1000 black pastors calling for a cease fire in Gaza (only from Israel of course). Priorities?
It is unfortunate that even on PBS there cannot be a frank discussion about race and IQ. It's not all about Jim Crow and the legacy of slavery.
What would such a discussion reveal?
We know now that modern Europeans have archaic DNA from another species.
White people are never judged or thought less of because of it.
It's always about race in America. Always. Every. Single. Time.
So your excuse is a report written over 100 years ago. Now explain the drop in numbers of male black doctors from the 1940s until now. Are you saying the country has become more racist.
I'll propose another answer, one based in personal experience in working with colleagues at an HBCU. They had very lucrative fellowships for graduate education across all STEM fields exclusively for minority students. They couldn't find enough black students to even come close to filling half the slots, even their own graduates turned them down. Why, the top STEM undergrads knew that they could get an MBA in 2 years and make as much or more than a PhD or MD. They followed the money, because they knew that this was the best thing to do for themselves and their families. If you try to engineer change overnight, you'll only do it by lowering standards and making the problem worse in the long run.
Really lady ?!!
Don't have the grades, study habits, or financial resources. Next question.
Too many Americans have paranoia about many things including medical treatment! Around the world this is not the way it is! Here in Canada we don't see these issues if you are sick the emergency room is open for you and it doesn't cost anything
It's due to American history. Black people were often unknowingly experimented on as recently as the late 1900s. Poor people of any race/ethnicity in general often receive worse medical treatment in the US, and many people go broke in the US if they get cancer or some other serious chronic illness, so there's good reason to be "paranoid" in the States about medical treatment. Healthcare is a privilege in the US - not a human right.
@emem2863 . The health of Appalachian whites is far worse than inner city blacks.
weakest interview on Amanpour & Co ever.
Then your ears must be full of wax.
funny how you don't discuss the interview but attack personal attributes. This is precisely what's wrong with the country.@@marshamarshamarsha9051
Hardly the weakest, but Michel Martin too rarely challenges her guests' arguments.
They can t make
Enough money
That s why not
Enough money
Tell the resining
Not colour
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This show has and views discussed in has shifted way to the fringes of the left.
Please don't lower your show based on identity or gender politics.
Curiously, out side the USA, Dr Uche would probably not be seen as black…despite her surname.
Why is USA so hung up on this.
I describe myself as pink and blotchy…not white.
If you think about it dark skin is the human natural state, and still predominant skin tone.
So rather than people of colour, we should perhaps say, people who have not lost their colour.
Where precisely would dr. Blackstock not be seen as black?
After all the talking, the question still remains. why are there not more black doctors? That is the question. After all of her talking points about micro, aggression and culture, come back and answer the question now.
Rewatch and pay attention this time ok?
@@chelseafan4eva it's a mystery.
@@brad9092 not really, perhaps the whereabouts of those comprehension skills
@@chelseafan4eva you mean biological??? I don't buy that. Culture? Yes I buy that reason.
@@brad9092 nope I mean comprehension
dem shill
So a report that came out 114 years ago and racism is why we don't have more black doctors. And the closing of black medical schools. Again like a hundred years ago.
I guess it's possible.
Maybe it's a contributing factor.
I can't help but wonder how big of a factor these things are - in comparison to the dismal state of k-12 public education in this country, which is impacting the black community disproportionately.
My money is on the latter instead of some old stuff dredged up by this obvious race grifter.
If we want better educated black people, then I think we should stand up together and demand higher standards in our education system.
That has a better chance of making a positive difference than taking the easy way out by simply blaming the situation on racism.
We need to help black students prepare for a career in medicine, not by telling them why they can't, but by making sure they have the proper tools to succeed.
That starts with higher standards and accountability in k-12 public education.
Not just higher standards for the students, but also real accountability for the schools themselves.
Check the long history of falling SAT scores. Public schools are a failed institution in this country, and they are getting plenty of money.
Baltimore public schools, DC public schools - get tons of money. It's the lack of accountability, not the lack of funding.
You call her a race grifter, why? You seem to be also a denier. Whenever someone uses the “race grifter” argument that’s actually code for racism doesn’t exist. When there is categorical statistical data that support this lady’s data. Guys like you know all the answers but probably have never spoken to a black person or spent any significant time in the black community. When adjusted for social economics and education it is a statistical reality that black expectant mothers still have a higher complication rate. Not because they’re stupid, not because they are race hustlers just because there is some medical professional that thinks they know black people and their “problems” just like your arrogant ass. This lady said nothing wrong and discusses issues that would make health care better for all, regardless of race. Which means you didn’t listen you just wrote which tells you are more interested labeling this lady a “race grifter” than making things better because you know all the answers. Whether we like it or not in spite of American’s greatness there issues although legally blacks had the rate to vote since the 15th Amendment that rate wasn’t enforced in America across the board until 1964 nearly 100 years later. Although segregation was struck down in 1954 with Brown case Southern desegregation followed 1970. In addition many public works projects like parks, pools and libraries were closed down in Southern cities to avoid integration and maintain the racial divide. This not only hurt Blacks but also poor and working class whites. No one seems to want to admit is that although America has improved that racism still exists which is the same as patient who has cancer but denies it. It like all this hullabaloo list year about Black people taking Asians slots. Less than 5% of doctors are black which hasn’t changed in decades. It was the legacies taking slots. You speak from the premise that there has never been inequities when this is a categorical untruth that you are unwilling to acknowledge which makes your argument faulty and dingenious from the outset.
I would argue public schools are failing because of lack of parental involvement, which is probably a result of single parent households. Public institutions are run by the people for the people. @@TomdeSabla
@@TheKarenRob Ha ha. "Run by the people for the people" hunh?
Wow.
A far more accurate formulation would be "run by the teachers unions for the teachers unions." The people have very little input into how public schools systems are run. Even the data on how schools and students are performing is becoming ever more opaque.
**
I love how your answer assigns zero blame to the institutions themselves. It's all the parents fault.
So, falling SAT scores for decades after decade simply reflects steadily decreasing parental involvement?
Ha ha.
You are living in la la land. Try reading a book or two and getting yourself educated. I suggest a book by perhaps the greatest black scholar ever - Thomas Sowell.
"Inside American Education"
Not a new book, but more relevant than ever
have you gone to a PTA meeting or volunteered at your local public schools? I have. And so should you. @@TomdeSabla