The Suicide Squad Review - YMS
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I didn't really care for the villain though. If only they had tattooed "DAMAGED" on his forehead, then I would have realized the stakes.
Emo Starro
Same i mean how can we know that he really suffered if he didnt had tattooes, played with knife or acted like a dick?
@@matthewhennessey5967 starro is not the villain tho, Waller is
If Starro had "DAMAGED" tattooed on his forehead, I would have laughed so fucking hard
Do starfish have foreheads? Or is whichever tentacle that’s pointed up the forehead? Maybe it just gets it tattooed on every tentacle just to be sure
I never thought going into the movie that I would be left feeling sad about a man that shoots polka-dots at people and sees his mother in every person he meets.
I never knew this wasn't normal and started going to therapy because of him. Thank you James Gunn.
@@suspiciouspooh5988 R.I.P. Starro the Conqueror.
Ratcatcher's theme has been in my current playlist since the movie released.
"Rats are the lowliest and most despised of all creatures. If they have purpose, so do we all."
Kind of a plot hole the seeing his mother in everyone thing, since he also said he image people to be his mother to kill them.
But, yeah, I ended up not liking the movie because Rick Flag and Polka Dot died... And maybe I would feel better if Harley died as well, like... I don't know, she is a badass in this and BoP, but people much more powerful and trained died...
Yeah
"they call themselves villains but none of them are villains"
Did we forget Peace Maker's "I love peace, I don't care how many men, women and children I have to kill to maintain it" speech?
‘Peacemaker’
@@burntgrahamcracker2866 I don't know why or how I keep mixing his name up
@@Arcademan09 it’s no problem i half thought you were making some joke
Well he was meant to be a villain, like more of a villain than the others
I mean he was the original Charlton Comics superhero DC acquired that Alan Moore used as a template to create The Comedian in Watchmen.
Just want to say im really happy that they kept Starro colourful.
Its the kind of thing that they would have made muted and dull just a few years ago.
For No Good Reason
XD
@@Ramsey276one Yeah, they would've made it dull browns or something claiming "realism" while completely ignoring that colorful wildlife exist irl, lol. Of course they might also justify it under "audiences won't take it seriously" but like it's a giant starfish lol, let's have fun with it.
I thought Starro was kind of boring. I liked Starro more so in L.E.G.I.O.N. They tried to give a backstory like "Oh Starro got tortured! That's why it's mad!" Not "Nah Starro wants to rule the universe and is a big bag of d1cks."
@@AdachiCabbage That second motivation sounds _way_ more dull and generic to me, honestly.
That’s like something marvel would do, wich is why im liking more of the new DC direction, its showing us the more
Colorfull side like shazam’s suit and the suicide squad, and it’s embracing the weirdness, unlike marvel who always gives us boring science bullshit
When Adam brought up the point of the main villain in the original being boring I genuinely had to take a second to remember who that even was
same, I actually forgot that actress was even in the first movie. Hell I've even forgotten her name lol
Some witch thing from Egypt or something
@@CaseFace5 her name is Face of Lavinne.
I call her “apocalyptic belly dancer”
_The Hoola Hooping Witch!_
I absolutely love how Adam gets angry talking about the first suicide squad
Yeah! I hope he keeps that energy, made me audibly cackle lol. I usually just exhale outta my nose for reference
Well, he did get a TON of backlash for it.
It's embarrassing, but when it came out, people argued about that film as if it were the 'Israel/Palestine' debate, and *really* went hard at people that disagreed with them
Same with the 'Amazing Spiderman' series, even if not as much. There literally was a lot of praise when those films came out, and there was a reviewer that gave the first one a negative review on her channel and got TONS of crap for it
Me too, reminds me of his space jam review but backwards
The diehard fans of the first one are actually "boycotting" this one. They're so deep in denial they actually believe the new one is worse, and that it's "erasing" the original. Yet they still want the Ayer cut, for some reason.
He's not wrong tho. There are a lot of people who don't watch movies who love to weigh in on movie critique and cape for a bad movie. Look at all the people who were pissed at Scorsese's comments. I lost count of all the people who insisted that he makes the same movie over and over, which if you have a passing knowledge of movie history you'd know that isn't true.
It was pretty good, but I just didn’t feel like anyone had Rick Flag’s back in this one
Maybe if there was someone with a sword that could cut everyone in half, just like mowing the lawn.
@@HalfBrainGamers and do some mystical thing like idk trapping the souls of those killed by said sword
yeah it really sucked the soul out of the movie for me
I don’t think someone having Rick Flag’s back would’ve helped him. He was obviously stabbed in the front side of his body.
I keep waiting for the day when the Katana memes get old for me and it hasn’t happened yet.
"What are we, some kind of THE suicide squad?"
-Abraham Lincoln
Why didn’t they include that in the film?
True he did say that I was there
Abraham Lincoln 2021
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1987
"Peacemaker... What a joke."
One of the best dying line ever
Sick burn
Definitely an homage to the Comedian’s last words in Watchmen!
@@Vincent_Luciano_Simpson funny you should say that. The Comedian was literally inspired by the Peacemaker for the Watchmen in the comics.
Oh, you a Comedian now?
The cruel thing is.. Peacemaker's point is also absolutely correct, if people see those recording the world will plum into chaos and there might be war thus the established peace will be no more.
he might be an asshole who said he will kill everyone that threaten peace, (women and children included) but that doesnt mean he want to kill them. he doesnt want to kill flag and Ratcatcher as his last words to them are "Please sir dont made me do this" and "sorry kid"
its really ironic to see Flag and peacemaker fight to death over their different philosophies only to see that at the end peacemaker's wish is the one who got fulfilled and not Flag's
0:48 Are we to assume Joker spent like an hour aiming all these things at himself or what? Just so he could lay down for a few seconds and laugh? Lmao
We are also made to believe that Joker would go to a tattoo parlour, look through some artist's work, ask them to commission tattoos in a specific font that say things like "Ha ha ha" and "Damaged", put a deposit down, come back for his appointment, get on a tattoo table and lay there as still as possible while the tattoo artist makes small talk and some people are coming in and out of the shop asking if there's someone available to do a little love heart on their hip for a good price.
@@claymush7476 100% fuck that version of Joker but to be fair back alley tattoo artists exist
Reminds me of scenes in movies where a character is surrounded by hundreds of lit candles, as if they took the time to place and light them all just so they could walk dramatically down a staircase past them or whatever. Not to mention they’re never sweating buckets from being in a room with that many lit candles, and the ones they lit first haven’t burned down any further than the ones they lit last. It looks cool, but it’s _so_ dumb.
Who knows why mad people do what they do?
XD
I hate when movies have an obvious movie set set-up and try to pass it off as genuine. "Oh he's gotta a lot of knives so he totally lies in a circle of them which just happens to look very cinematic"
Predicting Adum's scores before he announces them has become my favorite activity on this website
Every time I'm like "It's gotta be a 7 at the minimum" and then he gives it a six
6/10 is my religion
he pretty much gives everything a 6 from what i remember
He's very consistent and that's a mark of a good critic when you can predict what score they're gonna give before they give it.
@@TheKingDagon108 there's occasionally 1-3 reserved for the really, really bad ones.
The star of the movie, Milton, is conveniently left out of all the reviews I am seeing....
Oh yea, Milton Bloodsport, right? His name is actually Milton! 😜
Whose milton?
Bruh, the star of the movie is the Kaiju thingy
Is he the weasel thingy? Was he with the team all along, risking his life?
“Milton was still with us?” -Milton Dubois.
I'm not sure what he means when he said Peacemaker "didn't add much." Like, a good amount of the conflict in the third act involved him going against the rest of his team.
He's a youtuber, he's bound to not be an expert
Warning: somehow this comment made people angry, people get way too defensive when they *think* their favourite creators are being attacked
I think peacemaker was a good addition and I hate sinosimp John cena
@@Ballingokustate
You’re the kinda person he’s talking about at the beginning of the video.
I mean, if Adam doesn't really care much about the characters to begin with, like he says he doesn't because he's probably seen these character tropes from other superhero movies one too many times, he could make the argument that the conflict between them seem inconsequential, thus "didn't add much". Not that anybody is forced to agree with it.
@@MrMetalforever5 not watched it yet :) so I guess I'll find out why you're taking that so seriously soon
“None of the villains are villains”
Bloodsport and Peacemaker literally kill people minding their own business in a small village. This includes people just washing clothes. Upon discovering that the people they killed weren’t the enemy. They just said “Ooops.”
Plus, if it weren't for the team working towards a goal, and his desire to have friends, I'm pretty sure Nanaue would just be randomly eating people whenever he got hungry.
I think Adam's take was uncharitable, especially given the entire first team getting slaughtered and having no signs of being anything but bad guys. but Peacemaker is framed as a villain in the film itself at the end. The others are framed as heroic. And in the "people minding themselves" scene, those characters thought the fighters were bad guys, so their intentions were positive. I think he means how all these villains suddenly care about risking their lives when they didn't need to at the end. Waller would have 100% killed them and they accepted that ultimate sacrifice, then got lucky.
So I think both of you have valid points but neither are the complete picture. I didn't watch the trailers so this didn't effect me much
Oh wow they kill people i have no emotional attachment to. Wow. Such edge.
Let's not forget that they were ordered to kill the people at the camp "with extreme prejudice". Also, Ratcatcher 2 is the one character from the team with a good moral compass that influences Bloodsport to do some good by the end, and in turn influencing the rest of the team to take part in taking down Starro.
@@erika-yi3gx like how doc oc was villainous by killing those faceless doctorbs ooh such edge spoodermin 2 best movie evar
Lol Harley Quinn is like the official mascot of the “Im so random girl” 😂🤣
No just the version people think is Harley this...is not it
Also known as the NLOG (not like other girls)? That one?
Lmao. I’m finna watch your hustle n flow vid Rn
The woman in Turbo Kid. Is a closer and better version of Harley Quinn than these movies Harley Quinn.
@@lewisbeard8369 Real shame what popularity did to the character. Happened with Deadpool too.
Wait, killing innocents, matricide, robbery, attempted murder, war crimes, eating children and covering up war crimes ISN'T a villain thing? Good to know.
I think he means more so each character for the most part still has a moral compass most of the characters (excluding peacemaker) are leaning more towards good, most of the main cast outwardly try to do good even if the actions they preform are flawed. This is coming from someone who loves the movie btw, I love comic books and superheroes and this was an amazing movie but the bad guys don't feel like the bad guys. (Spoilers after this point stop reading if you dislike spoilers) The whole premise of suicide squad in my opinion isn't to highlight that these are villains, its to highlight that despite the fact these are for the most part horrible people the real asshole in all of this is the government.
So does every superhero lol What do you think Avengers civil war is about?
Well yeah, all those guys are dead and weren't in the plot so he's definitely not talking about *them*
Only one of them tries to cover up war crimes and the rest of those die like immediately
@@etalex7074 they all cover up war crimes in the end...
Adam's "Where are all you bitches now?" rant was pretty great
I commented that I am still here and ready to fight for the greatness of the Amazing Spiderman series even if the second one is objectively bad its the funniest movie.
"keep that same energy"
Yes, it was great.
@@TheSinisterProdigy Same i love the the first amazing Spiderman there was lots of potential and Garfield was the perfect Spiderman (but not so much of a peter Parker).
Second one was rushed and commited the same mistakes of the 3rd Spiderman
@@jakespacepiratee3740 he's calling out those hypocritical fans who defended to death the first SQ just for the sake of defending it and not because of the "reasons" they said the first one was good about.
From the perspective of my young brother and others of the teenage age, a lot of fans of the original were teenagers who grew up and realised they didn't like the original anymore after being more exposed to more and better films to compare.
I was a huge fan of the Suicide Squad idea and comic, and wanted to rationalize to myself that I thought it was good. Never harassed anyone over their opinion because that’s dumb, but yeah, I liked it for a few months until I thought about why I liked it, and realized I really didn’t like anything about it.
This new one is great though. I loved it to bits, I’ve seen it multiple times, and still find things to love about it.
Villains can have a moral compass, though its usually obscured by their own justification for what is right for others. Though yes the save the day aspect makes them more like anti-heros. Its fun to be the villain in many ways as a different perspective and a rebellion against authority, so it feels relatable in many ways to satisfy your darker thoughts. Plus, many are just bored of being 100% good because it just is overplayed and dull.
Yeah. We have a serial killer, two different assassins, a human-eating shark monster and God knows how many crimes Harley comitted both as Joker's accomplice and by herself. All of them are actual murderers who harmed innocents.
Only Ratcatcher can be argued as not a real villain, being just a kid who comitted a petty crime out of sheer necessity, and the fact that she's not supposed to be there is highlighted in-universe.
Just say you're a villain and you'll do whatever you please.
Holy moly, that rant from Adam was absolutely priceless. 10/10
0:50
My theory is that all the people defending the original Suicide Squad were just actual children who have grown up.
But the grown-ass people defending it who just suddenly changed? Yeah I got no explanation for that one bro.
Yeah that was exactly what happened to me. I watched the movie when I was younger and I thought it was really good then I got older and realized what a piece of shit it really was.
Some people enjoy things you don't. Get over it, kid.
For me it was the same folks that tried so hard to defend BvS and portray it as the best movie in recent times.
Yes, indeed. Me, I enjoyed the first one. I liked the color pallette and the music. This new one was amazing.
I don't care about people who didn't like the first one. What I don't like is people who think their opinion is fact.
Fandoms need to take things a lot less seriously and judge every piece of media on its own merits. It's crazy that people treat fandoms like religions.
I think when the Star Wars crusades begin I will almost miss the dominance of organized religion
Even though I understand why they’re a thing, I’ve always disliked “fandoms” and being a part of one.
Like, I’d much rather be a singular passionate fan than go out of my way to put myself in a community that worships something.
It's almost like they have an emotional attachment to the characters and stories at hand and thus react in a less than rational way to what they perceive as an attack on said characters and stories.
@@Jane-oz7pp totally understandable, but at the same time a rational adult should be able to understand the difference between a personal attack and a critique, and also shouldn’t go out and attack people regardless if it is a personal attack or a critique.
There's quite a sizeable amount of Fandom that is not cinematically illiterate, so that and their fixation on priaising their fav, makes for a very disingenuous and tiresome convo to get in with some of them.
When complimenting the movie, it sounded like you were being forced to, as though James was holding a Gunn to your head.
Get out
Banger comment
@@CaioAraujoRibeiro Gatt out - it's being held to YMS' head apparently :(
boooo!
@@Eclectic-Sheep Don't get me wrong, I very much enjoyed the movie. I felt James was firing on all cylinders.
This is the most intense way for Adam to say 6/10 while sh!tting on other movies XD
P.S : As a Taiwanese, I appreciate you mentioning the John Cena thing XD
Yao Sheena*
@@thisisawsome34253212 Taiwanese here. It sounded like baby talk, or sentences generated by bots. It did sound like he was being held hostage or something.
@@DrawnByLaserLove south park was pretty spot on with that one, having our morals and free speech compromised and censored in the west to conform to Chinese censors just to keep making money
It makes sense financially but it's morally bankrupt
I mean..Taiwan IS a fucking de facto country, whether china claims it's theirs de jure or not
Most people here in the states are clueless about the historical context of the Republic/nationalists heading there after the civil war, that its completely distinct from China
We should be demanding they respect human rights and get speech to get business not the opposite
@@DrawnByLaserLove I mean he obviously didn't want to do it lol. And shouldn't john be "Yue Han" not "Yao?"
@@bobjones2959 I heard "Jao Shi Na" (趙希那？) though. John is usually translated to Yue-han (約翰/Yohan) or Chia-n (強), but "traditionally" it is common for a foreigner to be given or choose a Chinese name. Usually the name would vaguely sound like their actual name. I don't know if it's mandatory or not, but if a foreigner became a Taiwanese citizen, their registered name would be names like that.
Have to be honest, I loved the flower petal visuals more because they weren't "diegetic". It's a fucking comic book movie with a bunch of references and decisions that emphasize its comic-bookishness, why the hell not?
Plus it's all what Harley is seeing in her head, as the murder spree reminds us that Harley Quinn is ACTUALLY insane
I feel like there was a fair bit of fun surrealism in the movie, to illustrate how unreal it is. I am not supposed to wonder about how the decendant of some god, a stupid immortal shark guy is cooperating on this mission or a humanoid weasel, which I don't do in a movie where there is also writing in the sand and leaves.
You’ve got to give this movie props for showing Pete Davidson, making you think you’ll hate it, then murder him within five minutes. Amazing
I still don’t know why people find him appealing.
@@N1ght_walk he's just chill.
@@panonymousbloom5405 yeah. I don't want to watch him in anything but he absolutely seems like the kinda dude I want to drink some beers and play jenga with
@@subhuman8945 idfk why people hate him
I don't think he's particularly bad himself, he's just on snl a lot.
From my understanding, the visuals in the Harlequin scene represent her Insanity caused by the chemicals that turned her into harlequin. Like, she is actually seeing those images constantly in her day-to-day life. Of course, they never actually explicitly say that in the movies so, eh. And I'm not a comic nerd myself, I'm just basing this off of a friend's observation.
I was looking for this comment. It's a theory I can totally get behind, she is by all accounts insane and the visual representation was fun (specially the little bird that pops up for a second).
That being said, I still prefer Harley Quinn from the DC animated show.
I've read this theory too about the Police Station scene in Birds of Prey, when she shoots all the beanbags, glitter, and confetti from the shotgun. I saw a fan theory that it was actually a real gun, and Harley just sees the blood as those things because of the crazy chemicals. Seemed like fun speculation at first, but flower petal scene here actually gives the theory some weight.
Like pyro from TF2
For me the flower petals represent that she's "in the zone". Like there was blood at the beginning of the fight sequence but as she started enjoying what she does best and got with the flow the petals appeared.
I can't say exactly, but Didn't she just go through being tortured by electrocution throgh her body/brain? yes she just was, and in watching this, we know she's insane and after her brain being jumpstarted with 100w of electricity, I figured that was what she was seeing in her mind, or maybe the feeling of pure psycho lust.
I'll tell you what I didn't think like not once. That it was just completely random "Like they could've just put that in there at any time of the Movie" like what the guy said in the video. That take was so bad I cringed.. Lol.
I really like how this movie was like a soft reboot for the series
Isn't that what every sequel is now?
Studio Exec: "If we just use different characters who may or may not be related to the characters from the old movie we make sequels like we used to: the same, but BIGGER!!!
@Brian Babin Maybe killing a Birds of pray villain in such a pathetic way was a really subtle Middle finger to that movie? MAYBE
I like cats, and I like your pfp
Haha after 10 years of constant course changes, trying to copy the marvel trends, going from grimdark to forced humor, crashing and burning, salvaging the janky justice League dumpster fire into a somewhat acceptable movie as a majestic accomplishment haha, wouldn't be surprised if they finally realized director freedom like this is more important than corporate micromanagement
@@TheAlanRaptor Technically almost every issue of the Suicide Squad comic is in fact a reboot. It’s literally a dumping ground for DC to expunge pointless or no longer viable characters from the villains gallery. It is a rare day when a character makes it out alive of that comic, and it’s fairly easy to tell who will live given who is on the team.
Also, to be fair, the flowers were clearly established as being imagined by Harley
I appreciated how the first 15 minutes had that twist after introducing all these people. I was in for the ride after that.
1:16 an accurate description of “Film Twitter”, the place where someone seriously tried to argue that Horror can’t be set in space.
It’s also the same place which raises mediocre films to brilliance, and nobody on it has seen a non English language film besides Parasite
(which they only saw because it won best picture) or any film prior to 1980, because everything before then is too old for them.
Twitter is where intelligent discussion goes to die.
And yes, I am aware of the irony that is me saying this in the TH-cam comment section.
@@RyanYeehaw TH-cam is the place the half-dead discussion crawls through before it bleeds out on Twitter (or 4chan)
They probably saw A New Hope, which was before 1980.
Yeah “Film” Twitter is the worst place to have a dialogue on movies.
@@RyanYeehaw I mean honestly, how can anyone expect intelligent discussion on a platform built on the premise of limiting the amount of information you can convey at 280 characters? It's not designed for intelligent discussion in the first place, it's designed for short hot-takes and quick zingers. Which is why all the moral grandstanders and "clapbackers" have Twitter as their platform of choice. Granted it can be used for more than just that, but it's just not really my kind of thing personally. The only thing I'd even be remotely interested in using Twitter for is art, and Instagram/Pixiv/Pinterest/reddit already exist.
6/10 is a pretty good score considering how Adam ranks movies.
Yep, above the average movie. I loved the movie, but a 6 from him still makes me happy.
He gives any decently well-made, enjoyable blockbuster a 6/10.
u can add extra 2 for his normal score .so its a 8
The first Suicide Squad movie was one of Jared Letos wacky pranks.
nice pun pun pfp
I see. He was the meta-Joker and his interpretation was the joke. He's the Andy Kaufman of superhero movies.
I barely ever care about DC but this film was so fun to watch, specially the Starro moment
Oh hey it's that guy
"You get a 6/10, you get a 6/10, everybody gets a 6/10!" - Adam Winfrey.
Better than the first one, even tho this isn't a hard feat.
It shouldn't be compared to the first. It's like Joker in the sense it didn't even need to be a superhero movie, but that's the only way to make money in the US.
First one is an oscar-winning masterpiece.
@@someguy1478 I agree, it's true art.
I'd even put it up there with 'Paul Blart: mall cop'
@Brian Babin I agree. it took everything from the shit-stained first movie and made it work.
as far as I'm concerned, this is the 'real' suicide squad movie and the first never happened
It would be like the difference between eating rotten food that is not meant for consumption and eating a brownie.
"none of the character are actually villains" i guess Adam missed the scene where they killed a resistance camp by accident and then they felt absolutely nothing over it
It's okay since he said he wasn't trying to care about what was happening.
I just thought they were dumbasses, because that was really obvious.
@@lProN00bl *he was trying not to care about what was happening.
Between this and his _Soul_ review, its really exemplified that this dude isnt much more than a cynical contrarian >WHEN IT COMES TO BIG-STUDIO FILMS
@@dildonius he is old
That doesn't make some one a villain, that makes them unempathetic.
If they were a villain in this case, where they are working for the good guys against their will, they would have known the resistance camp were good but didn't care and intentionally kill them to reach their goal, and then lie about knowing who they were to those who control them. (I haven't seen the movie so I don't have full context, just working with what I got.)
Honestly, I just had so much fun watching it. All the characters were all likable and well written, the plot was stupid but it in that tongue and cheek way that it came out charming, the editing kept me constantly engaged and even on my third rewatch I noticed new details
Amen to that.
I loved all the little fucked up jokes too. Like with the Weasel "He's harmless! Ok, well... he murdered 27 children..." 😂 or when John Cena was gonna kill "the only one in the office" and it was just a random secretary woman 🤣
i agree with ya there! couldnt have said it better myself
@@My20GUNS I think even Gunn said that the Weasel might not actually have killed those children; Just that they pinned the disappearance of those 27 children on him and he couldn't really defend himself, cause he's a Weasel, he can't talk.
you've already watched this 3 times'?
@@boxtupos7718 goddamnit. Atleast let the weasel be a villain..
That ranting at the start adds years to my life. Please never stop getting extremely annoyed at people's stupidity Adum.
It was my understanding that the flower-petal fight scene was supposed to show the audience Harley's perspective. Like instead of blood and guts she sees bright colors and flowers when she kills people. It would have been cool if they showed more stuff like this though.
This whole video is like a tired and annoyed relative sarcastically lecturing you about "Why giving the dog cereal is wrong". Great content, would watch again 6/10
Wait, are you not supposed to give dogs cereal?
I Like how despite being a sequel to Suicide Squad (2016) this one isn’t called like Suicide Squad 2 or some shit, as though they knew to distance themselves as far as possible from that trainwreck
But it's not a sequel to Sucide Squad (2016). It's a full reboot, hence why it's not "Sucide Squad 2" and why it doesn't reference the events of the first movie at all. It's not like WB was trying to pull a fast one on us lol they were pretty clear that this was a reboot because the first one was so poorly received
@@drewp17 No, it’s definitely a soft reboot. The events of previous films are indirectly referenced, such as Flag threatening a captive with death should he fail to comply (he did the same thing in Suicide Squad), only to have Harley undermine his efforts.
Another big detail is with Harley killing the dictator who asked for her hand in marriage, speaking to him about her previous toxic relationship and breakup. Her only known relationship in the DCEU had been with joker.
"as though they knew to distance themselves as far as possible from that trainwreck"
lol so let's call it The Suicide Squad. :p
@@candycaneshank still, its not a sequel. Soft or hard reboot, it's not a direct sequel for 2016 regardless
Also Flag, Harley and Boomerang all know each other at the beginning. That's the clearest indicator for it taking place after the other movie. BUT the fact that the major event that happened before is never acknowledged makes it a soft reboot.
People who are like "the new one is definitely better but I still get enjoyment out of the original" are actually normal people. People who got vehemently angry and then disappeared have a backbone of a jelly fish.
I can’t even fathom how you would enjoy the original
backbone of a *starfish
They all suck and your pfp is nasty
I see a lot of Snyderfans (who in turn are basically anti-Warner now) coping hardcore that the new movie is inferior to the original... even though the point is that the original sucks only because it wasn't Ayer's vision
@@bozotheclown1142 you do realize not all Snyder fans are anti Warner bros right?
I really appreciate your ability to acknowledge that you're happy for the people who are very into this kind of movie. Too many critics won't acknowledge anything beyond their personal bias. This is one of the many reasons I stan your channel.
I'm happy someone with a voice and reach larger than I have says that exact thing about the flowers. I didn't hate it, it looked nice enough, but I was a slight bit disappointed it didn't have more behind it.
it's literally what harley sees tho... its showing us her perspective and how psychotic she is
I really enjoyed it. The original was such a downer to slog through. I loved that they just had fun with it and weren't afraid to be silly and over the top. It was fun.
James Gunn was a good choice!
In terms of superhero movies (even though they are villains) this is one of the most purely fun and exciting experiences you can get from one. There is some true re-watchability here.
NO! NO! NO! Many people say I am sick in the head. NOOOO!!!! I don't believe them. But there are so many people commenting this stuff on my videos, that I have 1% doubt. So I have to ask you right now: Do you think I am sick in the head? Thanks for helping, my dear gu
This genre is pretty fun-starven then
100% agreed
I'm disappointed you didn't say OSCAR™WINNING©FILM® when referring to the original.
I perceived the torture taxe scene as not serious but as showing how cool and collected Harley is. That no matter how long they did that she would never break. And I thought the flower scene as a psychosis moment when Harley loses herself and becomes enthralled with violence.
"I am walking back and forth" feels like the kind of joke that would land pretty well with people who consistently say "I'm So RaNdOm". Perfectly describes my ex, who got a Harley Quinn tattoo on her whole thigh... after the first movie too
I'm so glad they asked Idris Elba to reprise his character from 'The Dark Tower'.
His Roland was just fine. Matthew McConaughey was great as the man in black, but that movie didn't get the books or Stephen king unfortunately. It's the last Airbender of books to movie at all...
Just watched this movie last night and absolutely loved it, but I'm not sure if thats because of what it was compared to. Either way, a great way to spend 2 and a half hours in my opinion
I am the funniest TH-camr of all time I watched my latest video and laughed for 69 minutes straight I am extremely funny I am dangerously funny and I have two girlfriends who think I am extremely dangerously funny and they watch all of my videos thanks for listening dear chu
@@AxxLAfriku go see a doctor
@@AxxLAfriku Holy shit you've been posting this exact same comment for like one year
Having never seen the original, this movie was just a lot of fun. Sorry but I feel like you should be notified of a reply that's actually on topic, not a spam comment and then people pointing out said spam comment.
@@GuestFriendsPlay definitely a lot of fun. And I very much enjoyed the breakneck pace it was moving at
Man, what a cathartic fucking rant at the beginning! Really encapsulates how I've felt about movie discourse on the internet for awhile! Oh also, suicide squad
For a moment there you can feel the passion that he had on the original YMS reviews honestly, shame he's gotten so tame over the years, still a great critic but I'd say he lost a chunk of his passion at some point.
Same-ish thing happened with Nostalgia Critic's The Wall. People were actually praising the review when it first was posted but once big named youtubers started shitting on it everyone jumped on the bandwagon and started hating it. I'm sure there's some who legit don't like it but I find that part highly suspicious.
@@jakkard5026 i would say he still has that passion
I mean what's great about it? Felt more like him being petty because people didn't like his video. And his whole "IF YOU DON'T LIKE MOVIES THE SAME WAY I DO YOU ARE SHIT" bit is doing the exact thing he complains about.
@@lProN00bl that's not it at all. He wasn't aiming his frustration at people who dislike his stuff. It was about the mentality in general of anyone who spoke against Suicide Squad. I don't think Adam has once said you have to like the movies he likes. He's just very passionate about his stances on things and people often think because someone publicly shares their passionate opinions via the internet then that means their opinion has more weight. Obviously this isn't true.
On Harley's flower scene, i interpreted it as more than just an aesthetic choice (though it was visually only in the one scene so I get why it comes across like that). I thought it was implying that this was kind of how Harley sees the world a la 'Meet the Pyro' in which a crazy person interprets their horrifoc actions theoigh the lense of demented Disney like visuals, basically justifying their actions as beautiful rather than brutal. It's not that Harley doesn't know what she's doing but rather sees it as a good and beautiful act.
I wish Katana was in this so she will put Peacemaker in her sword. She was the only one who had Rick's back.
The opening rant can be used for basically every single thing on the internet. Most people don't hold real beliefs they can objectively defend. They just trudge along as an NPC and appeal to emotion if challenged.
Until their mind changes, or moves on.
People literally changed their minds about Suicide Squad ever since the "Search for The Worst" video. The timing was too specific to be a coincidence.
@The FatCat kinda gives off a "not like others" vibe, but also completely fucking stupid because YOU'RE the only playable character. making everyone except you an NPC by definition.
Real NPC moment if you ask me
@@troin3925 Well a lot of people at the time were just desperate for a DC cinematic universe so were just trying to make the film a success. But after the real word of mouth spread it was just to obvious they were shamelessly just propping up the brand rather than actually liking the movie.
Funnily enough, the people who call others NPCs tend to also be huge NPCs themselves.
I almost want to see the Ayer Cut, just because I’m wondering how drastic the changes are. As long as it’s under 200 minutes, I would be interested in seeing it.
I feel kinda bad for David Ayer, he really got screwed over with that movie. Though tbh I'm not too interested in him as a director, the only other thing I know him for is Bright and that doesn't speak well for him imo.
@@bobjones2959 I mean, Ayer did write Training Day (still Denzel's best role tbh). And End of Watch, which he wrote/directed, was decent.
It was a matter of the studio interfering to re-shoot half the film because of the success of Deadpool’s screwball antics as an R-rated film that made boffo box office. They thought “let’s get some wackiness in there! More Harley Quinn!”
As a result, it really does feel like two films in one, and ultimately shot itself in the foot.
As much as I want the original vision to be as good (or decent realistically) as they all say, a part of me also wants it to get made and then still be bad just not to the same extent so there won't be any excuse for the movie or him anymore
@@frederickshaibani5655 Denzel’s best role was Malcolm X. Training Day was a role that he carried (only Denzel can say “King Kong ain’t got shit on me” without being cringe), Malcolm X was a role that he elevated. And The Hurricane was also great.
"They call themselves villains, even though they're not [villains] in the movie."
...So, we're just glossing over the part where they slaughtered a bunch of innocents? Granted, the movie underplayed and glossed over that somewhat, but it _was_ a thing.
I can agree that, if they wanna do a villain movie, they could stand to cut out the heroic and noble motivations and embrace the villainous MO, but we're still not exactly dealing with Superman, here.
When? The camp? Doesn't say much about their motivations if they did it by complete accident.
I think its also important to add, that the concept of Suicide Squad doesn't neccerally mean all villains, expendable superpowered units, that for one reason or amother have turned to crime and gotten the bad end of the stick.
So it makes sense if ratcatcher is a somewhat nice person, The Shark its just oblivius to human affairs, Polk Dot its extremly messed up and even till the end i was not sure how much good he meant, bloodsport has and arc, you get the idea.
I blame the marketing team for this one, not the movie.
@@DAntiprodukt That's the thing, though- yeah, they didn't know the camp was full of rebels, and they were acting on Waller's orders anyway, so you can try to make an argument that they weren't *really* bad guys in this scenario, but they still slaughtered a camp of ultimately-innocent people, offered little than a "Whoops, that's our bad" in reply, and then chugged merrily along as if nothing happened. That's not the kind of thing _superheroes_ tend to just shrug off or ignore, and it's fairly messed up (if admittedly entertaining to watch). So Adam's point that "they didn't really act like villains" doesn't entirely land, even if I agree that they erred more toward heroics.
Adum is making the argument that a weasel who killed 13 children, a man who shot Superman with a kryptonite bullet, a shark man who eats anyone he comes in contact with, Harley fucking Quinn, and peacemaker a deranged murdering right wing psychopath are all incredible heroes and don’t have any villainous qualities……. What the hell?
Rat catcher 2 you could argue is a hero but anyone else is kind of a long shot don’t you think? Just because none of them are the specific antagonist in this specific story doesn’t mean they’re all saints. There are no heroes in this story other than ratcatcher. Amanda Waller and the us government are villains, the suicude squad are villains being forced to do villainous things, starro is inocent but still becomes a power hungry villain by the end, the corto maltesian président is a scumbag, How can Adum see heroes in any of these characters? Sure they’re the protagonists of the story, but doesn’t Adum recognize that hero and protagonist aren’t the same thing? Many people would say thanos is the protagonist of infinity war because it’s a movie entirely about him and his quest to save the universe. Does Adum think thanos was a hero just because he was the main character?
@@DAntiprodukt “motivations” there motivations are the bombs in their skull, the us government is a villain, so wether they did it by accident or not they still have the same motivation they always had, a selfish one, and they’re still doing villainous acts for their villainous rulers. You really think these characters are all heroes just because they accidentally killed the good guys instead of on purpose? Even at the end when they turn on Amanda Waller their motivations stay consistent “get the bombs out of our heads and set us free and we won’t show the world what you did.” It’s selfish. A hero would say this info has to get out no matter what, but a villain would say let’s use this as leverage to get our way. Is it that hard to recognize and distinguish heroic and villainous characteristics? It was all pretty straightforward to me.
I was pleasantly surprised by John Cena’s acting in this film, especially during THAT scene
Which scene?
@@etalex7074 Don’t wanna spoil it for anyone else in the comments, sorry
@@etalex7074 the one where he stares at a camera and Simps for china.
This movie was great, Harley Quinn actually had a character instead of being over sexualised like she was in the first. The jokes really landed. The character development was pretty great honestly. And the action was some of the best I’ve seen in any movie ever.
someone needs to watch the raid
Oh noooo characters are sexy whyyy???
@@cesarcampos8746 characters can be sexy, in fact shes also really attractive in this one too. The problem lies in how they use their sexuality, with the original it treated harley horribly with the premise that she was basically just an object for joker. The original story more than likely wasnt going to do anything with this but the sequel managed to write a very cohesive and heartwarming story for her in which she overcomes the trauma she was given.
I thought the stylisation of the harley fight scene was a representation of her mindset whilst killing all those guys no?
Yeah
Yeah it was basically from her perspective. It was pretty cool but I agree with Adam I wish it happened more than once honestly. Minor gripe though.
I'd argue that the music's "serious" score is actually incredibly ironic and that it's supposed to mimic the serious nature of a serious action movie but because the movie and the characters and the jokes were that silly (c'mon there is a 69 joke) I think the score is supposed to be in a comedic irony with the actual content and tone of the film. But in and of itself the movie's soundtrack (outside of Ratism, which is a music composed for this movie) is mediocre... But it's supposed to be? I hope someone gets this.
I'm drunk but this is my sober opinion.
I get you, fam. I took it as irony, too. James Gunn leaned in realllllllly hard and it's great.
No it’s not. It’s just a generic score. I didn’t like any of the characters but peacemaker
completely agree with you on that, how can the scene be asking us to take it seriously when there's a silly "69 joke" in it. it's obviously supposed to be ironic, the implied "serious" background music works in favour of the film by never letting it stray too far from the usual super hero subgerne it's still a part of, only to then hit you with a silly joke or fun moment. I thought it hit that balance quite well, between generic superhero film and fun james gunn comedy. if it had strayed too far towards either side, I probably wouldn't have enjoyed it as much
@@knurdyob all superhero movies even the serious ones have really dumb jokes every 3 minutes. The soundtrack may be ironic but the irony could have been implied better if it was. It runs into that problem where if you create something ironic but the vast majority of people don’t see it as that, it’s more of a you deploying irony correctly problem than a problem with the audience
I’m a big fan of James Gunn but yeah, I’d have to say the score was kinda bland.
I really love James Gunn's directing. Sure this movie wasn't as great as some people are claiming it to be, but it is super fun. And I love that Starro was the villain for this movie. He's an underrated sympathetic antagonist. The colors, action, and framing was pretty fucking fantastic at times. Super is still probably my favorite film by him though, and I'd love to see him do a smaller project someday. Sylvester Stallone actually made for a cool King Shark too. Genuinely was pretty satisfied with this not super hyped, but really happy with the project. I probably like it more than you, but not by much. Being a comic book fan I'm still waiting for that super hero comic book movie that is THE ONE for me.
I love this movie
For me, I found The One movie with Into the Spiderverse, but I certainly understand people still looking for it. I found it very amusing that despite a long line of failures, WB's successes have been far more interesting than any of the MCU because they're getting desperate and letting different directors just go in wildly different directions. James Gunn got to make a very strange movie compared to all the other DC films, and I look forward to more offbeat DC films.
Super is my least favorite movie of all time so would love to hear what you enjoyed about it lol to get another perspective.
I thought they could have toned down the harley quinn fight a little but i know why they did it and it was such a cool reference because apparently harley is so batshit insane that, that is just how she sees things. She sees the world in a colorful fun light. Almost like pyro vision from tf2 or what the mask sees when people wear the mask
Adam yelling "Show yourselves!!" is one for the ages
Adam is the epitome of "I told you so" Lmao
*I warned you* :>
I DESPISE what comics and the movies have done to Harley Quinn. Go watch the 90's Batman The Animated Series and the 2010 Justice League Action to see her as a good character. Arkham Trilogy is fine too.
The new cartoon gives a great spin on the character and finally makes her a real person
Sometimes it really feels like they're just trying to make her into sexy deadpool
She's kinda terrible in Arkham tho
@@nicovelardita8619 yeah I blame that on the writing
@@explosivooo She always felt like a prop to the truly important characters. Damn, in Asylum every baddie is irreplaceable but the only moment I remember from Harley is her releasing Poison Ivy, and that could also be a job for a random henchman. The implied relationship of the two in that scene is never explored again.
With this and Space Jam: A New Legacy, I'm loving this new enraged and furious Adum that rants into the mic
Looks like Lion King 2019 is taking its toll.
What a trainwreck.
5:20 I CAN'T BREATE. I'M IN MY CAR (WORK PARKING LOT) AND LAUGHING SO HARD 😂 🤣 🤣🤣😂 I WASNT READY FOR THAT
"Feels like the type of joke that would land really well with the kind of people who consistently say I'm so random" basically describes the entirety of this cinematic iteration of Harley Quinn.
I don't understand why this version has to suck while the SAME cartoon version is a ton of fun
I didn't really find her funny at all but the action scenes are so well choreographed that they more than justify it
Last time I was this early, David Ayer was directing
Almost every villain has a moral compass of their own that they obey, and almost no villains out there in fiction don't think they're doing the right thing, I don't know where Adam was getting at with that they're not "actually villains" because they "have a moral compass"
Agreed. It's rare for someone to think they are evil in the present and continue that behavior. Adam is usually good with understanding philosophy and stuff like this. Also, its premise is very well-known: villains are forced to complete missions by the government under the threat of death. They are not free to act as they like.
Take Dr doom from fantastic four, he doesn't want to conquer the world just to do so, he wants to do it because he believes he can run it better than anyone else and can actually fix it. That people will be happier with him running it they just don't know it yet. He has his own moral compass.
Sandman from spiderman is a shitty "villain" specifically bc of the moral compass thing tho
Not “don’t think they’re doing the right thing” but rather “doing what they think is right, and they’re not the villain”.
It's almost as if one of the core themes of the movie is each member overcoming the trauma or the otherwise motivating factors that made them villains on the first place by being essentially forced to help each other.
King Shark is, well, a fucking Shark doing what a Shark do. He quite literally does not know the problem with what he does, and Rat Catcher 2 understands that because she deals with wild animals usually seen in the same light, so she actually tries to befriend him understanding that he's not malicious, just wild and ignorant.
Bloodsport is someone who was raised from birth to be who he was, and just doesn't believe he can change, thinking all he's good at is doing bad shit, because no one else has ever believed he could either. As such he pushes everyone around him away, both not wanting to hurt and be hurt by association.
Polkadot man is just a sick, mentally ill man that was never given the help he needed, locked away with not even a thought of reform.
Eve PeaceKeeper shows hesitancy for what he does later in the film, however he truly seems to believe what he's doing is for the greater good.
Only really Harley fully stays the same, and that mainly cause she's already had like 2 other films.
In Aaron Paul's voice: *"THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH ET"*
For me it’s a masterpiece and one of the best CBM Films of all time.
Agreed
agreed 100%
This is the best YMS review I've seen in years. Reminds of the old days.
This is the rantiest review I've seen and I'm loving every second of kt
You clearly haven't seen his Space Jam 2 review
@@luiginastro8831 I have, that is also ranty but in an argumentative sense. This is ranty in the emotional.
*it
Fuck
"I'm so happy for the people this movie is for."
OMG, you said the thing... Cuz, yeah, every once awhile something comes along that I have no interest in, but it's good (or at least entertaining), and the people who like that sort of thing enjoy it, and that's great! Not everything is for me, and that's ok.
For the record I really liked this movie, but I still think this is a good point that doesn't get mentioned very much, so I wanted to comment on it. (-:
People not understanding that not everything is for them is so old. I get it in your teenage years but the amount of adults I know who can’t comprehend stuff being made for people other than them is crazy
"Why did the fans of the 2016 Suicide Squad movie suddenly disappear over time?"
Probably because they grew up. It's normal for people to be super into something edgy in their teens and then five years later looked back on that period of their lives and cringed.
It's also normal for people to not keep talking about a movie they watched 5 years later even if they liked it lol
I hated the movie wheb j first watched it but the soundtrack is still a fun guilty pleasure
It was because of "Search for The Worst." Ever since Alex's video, people suddenly trashed Suicide Squad as if it was never liked. Proof that people only listen to certain TH-camrs with huge fanbases.
I liked the first movie, though the new one is batter in many ways. I also liked Amazing Spiderman 2, and also Taiwan is a country.
Hey. I fuckin LOVE The Amazing Spider-man 2. I think it's great. I also notice the flaws of the movie, but I don't let that take away from the things I enjoy about it. Just a guilty pleasure.
I love your channel Dank! I hope to see you post more vids soon!
@@gregcharles3240 Thanks man. I mainly got burnt out because Tiktok has gone down hill. May get motivation to start making more soon. Ya beautiful!
@@DankasaurusReks Yeah I wish there were more good content on TikTok or even ironic Tiktokers on the app. I hope you can make a comeback soon.
For a comic based movie, this feels like a 10/10 from you 😂
7:06 I hate to be that guy but this is supposed to be a parody of a scene in the first Suicide Squad which you specifically pointed out
Also: the flower and animated animals in the Harley Quinn fight scene is supposed to show how she sees the violence. That’s why it is used in the only scene where she fights by herself
That guy
@@soundywaivy This guy
I've seen the movie twice and I don't remember Harley ever saying "I am walking back and forth" in that scene, was it actually in there or cut?
It's in there. I definitely saw it watching HBO.
It’s making fun of the first movie’s scene which was the same essentially
@@drhumaid8614 no it isn’t tbh, they weren’t even pacing in the first film they were just standing still. The only part that might, might have been making fun of the first movie was “you have custom license plates, you die.”
I’ve actually been listening to the score almost non stop over the last week. I dig the more intense moments, but I think three tracks in a row near the end fully convey the sense of going against all odds, in particular:
The Squad Turns Back
The Squad Fight Back
Ratism
These tracks elevated the sense of looking for a purpose, as myself and many of my friends are at a crossroad where we have to decide what to do with our lives. The film definitely has themes that match our situations, and in so I really connected with the characters. It’s inspiring to see so many characters learn to fight for a purpose in life, even if it kills them.
thanks for your thoughts ill be checking it out
Hey Adam, just wanna say the editing and writing in your latest videos has been absolutely stellar. I've been a fan for a while but I'm just nonstop giggling in these ones. Keep it up my dude
This legitimately should have been a miniseries.
John Cena’s character is getting one, which is actually interesting because this is the only role for him that I actually enjoyed and didn’t actively cringe.
@@mustacheman4476
yeah, his character is a bit too interesting to just let go... he is like Captain America, if he was blindly patriotic.
@@acetrigger1337 He's just captain America if he was a real American soldier (not a compliment btw)
@@mustacheman4476 I was surprised by how much I liked his character by the end.
Why? No.
Stop thinking that making something episodichal is totally not a deliberate creative choice and they just fucking choose the wrong format or something
I have an excuse for not liking the first one anymore, okay? I was 12
I really liked this one tbh, it just felt like one of the better action movies in the last few years.
That scene at 5:29 with the dog actually really surprised me when I saw this movie. Like the entire 4 second scene is the dog getting scared and running away, but to me it looks really frightened. It doesn't look like it is taking a cue from a trainer and it turns tail and runs. Like that is either an awesome dog actor or they waited for him to get comfortable, set up the shot, then freaked him out. A pretty awesome effect.
I just love how happy you are for the people who would love this and that you can actually understand why they would. Warms my heart
Let’s be honest, king shark was the hero we all needed
Sebastian the Rat was the true MVP
"They call themselves villains but they have a moral compass"
. . . . Yeah? And? Villains aren't always just assholes who always do bad things no matter what and for no particular reason. They can have good intentions but be motivated to meet those ends to the point of causing harm
I wonder what the Weasel's moral compass is
i think what adum meant was a "conventional" moral compass
@@belieberXC He only eat children. So i guess not eating adults is a good moral
I think it's safe to call characters that try to assassinate Superman and slaughter a defenseless village of Rebels, pretty villainous even if they save the day at the end. Not every bad guy needs to twirl their mustache 24/7.
@@belieberXC to be honest, he's an animal like king shark. They are mostly acting on instinct
I'm so glad you liked this, dude. Very validating for me
Why do you need validation?
Adam likes a lot of dudes, don't worry.
@@verylateandtired3504 pretty sure he's being sarcastic about how Adum has a such a condescending attitude
@@verylateandtired3504 It's a joke
I love how dialed up your sass is every video basically since the lockdown. It's the best
“i am walking back and forth” got the biggest laugh outta me tbh
Yep I thought it was funny, it wasn't really "random", more just a continuation of the earlier gag of her attempting to intimidate Peter Capaldi
yeah i laughed so hard
I'm gonna say he gives it a 6/10
Edit: Yup
I love how a good chunk of your review is you defending your justified position on the first Suicide Squad.
Either way, I personally loved this movie, and I totally get every criticism. I respect your opinion wholeheartedly.
Great review. Completely disagree that there aren’t any villains, everyone in this movie is a villain, on a different level. Normies may say Starro is the main villain but the main villain is Amanda Waller. The Peacemaker/Flagg dilemma reminded me of Rorshack/Dr Manhattan dynamic from watchmen, another one of my favorite stories.
It’s not my favorite movie ever, but it’s probably easily like, top 50?
Ratcatcher and Polka Dot Man probably are the most questionable to be regarded as villains but I liked they were there and were both main characters. I guess King Shark to some extent as it seems his personality was just giving a shark actual speech and some intelligence.
Im pretty sure Adums point was about the narrative of the movie. Sure, these characters did a ton of fucked up shit but it was all portrayed in humorous ways and glossed over. The narrative focus was on the heroic parts.
Also, the characters usually had good justifications for being fucked up. Like adum said, they had a moral compass.
I actually didn’t mind Harley as much as I thought I would in this movie. Her breakout scene was fun, and I love the dynamic that her and Rick Flag have.
People turned their back on the 2016 Suicide Squad kinda like how people turned their back on the 2017 Justice League, all the DC fanboys used to actually defend that movie