I see Taoism and Buddhism as related by history in China before Zen's moving to Korea and Japan. I was not aware of Buddhism influence on Stoicism. I will now look at the connection. Thank you.
@@rshmnz I personally see more Taoism than Buddhism in Stoicism, but I think we tend to focus on the parts of each view point we are interested in and then see the similarities as we struggle to detach ourselves from our personal preference / interest.
@@TheBrick2 Could be! but remember that asian religions/Philosophies overlap each other, influence each other and it's never clear where one ends and the other starts. In China, for example, both Buddhists and Taoists worship the Guanyn and the Guangong gods... symbols of buddhism can be found in Taoist temples and vice-versa. ;)
When it comes to comparing these philosophies that have been raised, I’d say that Daoism/Cynicism and Confucianism/Stoicism are ultimately the closest counterparts. All of them believe in leading virtuous lives in accordance with nature but approach doing so differently. Basically, Daoists and Cynics emphasize natural living while Confucians and Stoics lean into virtue ethics. Daoists and Cynics see organized society as a perversion of nature and the conscious practice of specific virtues as very likely to come into conflict with the flow of nature. On the other hand, Confucians and Stoics see organized society as an extension of nature and the conscious practice of specific virtues as essential to aligning oneself with the flow of nature. There are differences between those in each pair of course which are emblematic of the wider differences between Chinese and Greek schools of thought. While all of them had some kind of a spiritual dimension from the start, they were largely focused on operating within this world. Buddhism often gets characterized as a secular philosophy, but one need only look at historically Buddhist countries to see that it is a deeply religious tradition. The main issue it deals with is liberation from suffering in the cycle of death and rebirth which would make its, for lack of a better term, Western counterpart Christianity given that it somewhat similarly speaks of deliverance from the curse of death into everlasting life. As with the other sets, they’re not the same obviously. But the fact that they both frame the nature of the world as something unsatisfactory or fallen to actively transcend at the individual level and are centered around a teacher who is said to have shown man the path out of it by way of spiritual practice coupled with moral goodness do come across as fairly comparable. Granted, this has little to do with whether or not there was direct influence going on between any of these movements. At any rate, there is truth to the notion that the parallels which most stand out to us are going to be informed by our preferences and interests to some degree.
I'd like to read your book on insults. One of the hardest things to accept is that other people are not kind, loving, warm, considerate, or even nice, and that we can actually decide not to hate them despite that.
Couldn't one say that no one is ever always kind, loving, warm, or nice? I know I am not the channel owner, but I feel empathy as well as understanding the common faults of humanity, what is within our very nature, is a way to not let insults get to you.
Early Buddhism influence my life a lot, the practice help me to face the impermanent of life , and less suffering. It's not only philosophy, but have the real path to end the suffering that we can practice daily, example mindfulness in daily life, Anapana sati, and vipassana. This help us make better decision, more awareness, calm and have better life in here and now🙏
I feel like religions have some aspects of stoicism and it seems like if people ACTUALLY follow their religion combined with LOGIC then that would probably be the correct way to practice, so many people get caught up on the small details in religion rather than using their logic
We need to understand that we live in a society where there is competition and there will be unfair people around us, we cannot fully follow the rules mentioned in Buddhism or for that matter any religious text book. We cannot show gratitude or stay calm in face of daily chaos. Stoicism teaches us to respond to situations than react, which is very important in todays world of over population, individualism and distractions . To live a happy life I always remember to: ACCEPT WHAT I CANT CHANGE TO CHANGE WHAT I CAN, FOR THE BETTERMENT OF MY FAMILY AND MYSELF & ALWAYS BE AWARE OF YOUR BREATH WHEN U INHALE & EXHALE. That's stoicism for me, thats my religion.
Two random, but relevant tidbits: 1. Jesus is frequently referred to as the Logos in the Greek Orthodox Church. 2. The exchange of ideas between east and west can be clearly seen in certain statues of the Buddha, which demonstrate the wet drapery style, a classical Greek convention.
Interesting! In regards to the second point: I'm reading a book at the moment called 'The Path' (by Puett) which also mentions that somehow there must have been an exchange of philosophical ideas across Eurasia at that time.
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I think, specifically, the ZEN school of Buddhism, which is why the Samurai embraced it later. Other branches of Buddhism tended to be more ceremonial or esoteric.
"At 72, and having experienced some of the same education as Einzelganger, My perspective was greatly and forever changed by Joseph Campbell position that "the religions of the world to be the various culturally influenced "masks" of the same fundamental, transcendent truths." And it occured to me, that there is a fundamental difference between "religion" and spirituality. Spirituality contends with the relationship of a human beiing's existence to the world and beyond, including purpose and responsibilities. Religion institutionalizes practices and rituals, like swinging a scented candle during a service, or joining in unison to repeat a prayer or holy text, such that it might bring one to a certain place of insight. The Stoics seemed predisposed to focus on Self, and leave the condition of the World - to the world. That is neither good nor bad, it is just an outlook on all that there is to be known, and that can never be known. As far as Einzelganger - I have never listened to anyone - especially of such an apparent young age - who grasped and articulated his perspectives with such clarity, brevity and absentia of opinion. It is truly a wonderful experience to have his counsel.
The teaching of Buddhism is absolutely a crucial for our daily life. The buddhism shows the path ( eightfold path) to all human being to practice in accordance with natural law.
It looks to me that amor fati already describes what it means, it is logically clear, and all there is is for you to strive for it and develop it. Wu wei is not logical, but it is a bit closer to a natural consequence of training the mind and the body in conformity with the dao, or "in the way that things naturally happen or come to be". But that's just me talking.
I would like to see to see a comparison with Taoism with Buddhism and stoicism. I wonder if there's some connection to the earlier philosophy or belief system
Hey Einzelgänger! Have you read read Bhagwat Geeta? It is a Sanatan Dharma (Hindu) book also known as “song of the lord”. All the points of Buddhism and Stoicism can be found there too. I have not saying that the ideas belong to Sanatan Dharma but mentioning the fact that these are some eternal truths. I suggest you read the Geeta and make a video about your views. Thanks!
Bhagavad gita is the closest theology and ethics to stoicism as far as i know. I am not hindu, though practice orthodox stoicism together with some gnostic and buddhist principles and the bhagavad gita is one of my foremost resources. I also am commited to brahmacharya which is stoic in essence. Many modern "stoics" (non-stoics/hedonists in essence, as I see on reddit and some scholars like Pugliucci) tend to fall into the western trap of still being hedonists, i.e. thinking temperance means regulating/planning pleasure, leading to them still valueing pleasures over wisdom; they somehow fail to grasp the scriptures or believe they know better about passions and what the stoics wrote about the effects of the passions on the soul
4:50 The same thing is written in Holy Sreemad Bhagwat Geeta chapter 6. I think you should have an interview with Mr. Acharya prashant who is a famouse philosopher here in India and an environment activist. He has a extremely deep knowledge on all philosophies on earth. He is probably the most intellectual philosophers and author in India.
I have done much research into this topic and I don’t believe one came from the other but that they are two arms of a whole body. They are both apart of an original way of thinking.
Actually original Buddhism denies the very existence of a "self"...deeds get done but there is no doer thereof. Much more inline with Advaita Vendata = not 2
I read somewhere that Alexander the Great was so impressed by the holy men and philosophers in India when was there that he brought a number of yogis and brahmans back to Greece with him. This might be a good place to start some research. Also, the word "Christos" in Greek corresponds to "Krishna" of the Hindus, the "Devil" of the Bible to the "Devas" (demigods) of India and the words "Abraham" and "Sarah" correspond to the Indian Brahman and Sarasvati.
Alexander never went back to Greece. He probably was impressed by their philosophies, himself being trained by Aristotle, we can be relatively sure that indians didn't come back to Greece, considering the political chaos after his death. The greeks taught however that their philsophies/mysteries have their origins with the chaldeans and persian magi (in modern iraq/western persia), so it is possible that the indoaryans were the founders for both philosophies and esoteric systems. And these teachings are way older than the time of Alexander. You'll see some evidence in the allegories of the germanic for example, especially about brahmacharya and serpent symbolism which is amazing to think about. The aztecs though might be the main link (they have the same symbology for sexual transmutation as the greeks with the winged serpent (rod of hermes, Moses raising the serpent etc), so I am convinced that at least the core of those teachings (purification through the sex force/creative principle) has the same origin, either fantastical (Atlantis or whatever) or from the persian-Indus-caucasian steppe -basin, from where we can track the migration of all those groups.
Yes many similarities I can identify being Theravada Buddhist myself studied and practicing ... great Chanel and thank you for the wisdom you share ,however the laughing Buddha in the thumbnail has nothing to do with Buddhism:)
The only difference between stoicism and the dao/ zen is the fact that stoicism relates the equanimity to reason while the East relates it to the heart. In reality though, the heart is the ultimate thing that determines our rational capabilities.
I like very much your work, I'm interested in learning about Stoicism and applying in my life. I have a question about the idea in Stoicism that the individual has a choice on reacting or not to an external event. My thoughts and personal experiences are that if the reaction to an external event is controlled at the unconscious level , how does that person have a choice in changing their reaction ?
i discovered that i am a stoic have been one..i follow the word of Christ..the teachings of Christ...Jesus was a critical thinker. ''Turn the other cheek.'' i also follow many teachings of Budda...later in my life. Finding Stoicism is the Trinity now of my beliefs.
Concerning insults. We have been taught by definition that they are disrespectful. But if it's the truth shouldn't we thank the person for pointing it out to us? Why can't we handle the truth. Becoming upset at someone for speaking the truth is illogical. And on the other hand if it's not true. Why does it also upset us? Shouldn't we be laughing at them instead for being a fool? Our ego and emotions gets in the way of being logical and learning because we were taught it was disrespectful to speak the truth.
Epictetus and stoicism can be considered like a religion in the same way that Confucious, as a historical scholar trying to convince rulers to be good for the sake of others, can be seen in China as a moral, religious leader. I sometimes think that Confucious is like Plato's Socrates and Mencius is like Aristotle. Aristotle is tough for me to figure out though. And Epircurus sure does seem like a religious cult figure with his garden community of select friends even if he sounds like a really good, smart guy just trying to live the good life and look out for his friends.
I must say I can align myself with a vast majority of virtues conveyed by the stoic “philosophy” ( I don’t consider stoicism a religion as in its more common light I don’t believe it directly denotes of a higher beings, or supernatural occurrences unlike Buddhism which would very much so fit into the philosophy category if not for concepts like ; karma ,reincarnation,and nirvana. Anyways one of the very few ordeals that I strongly disagree with about the philosophy of stoicism is living in the present, as I see it as one of the biggest faults and teachings in modern and “ancient” philosophy. For the present is the second least important of three states of time give direct focus to.. as it last for less than a second yet is seemingly eternal but the fact of the matter is we are always living in the future for ones actions in the present should only be to reap the benefits made available in a near future . For example “working out” the entirety of the motivation behind working out is how your efforts will pay off in the future...your result will not pay off in the present but in a future that will later become the present.. we live for the future living in the now will only lead to a lack of motivation and a lack in productivity when working on a large building you work for the beauty of the building in its finished form which is always in the future if people only became motivated and focused on the present nothing would get done and in my Opinion though most would disagree I feel as though the thought processes of living in the now even partially contradicts basic stoic principles even though many would say the future is out of our control ,l would argue it’s one of the few things that Is as the present sculpts the future , in other words living for the now should be accepted only with partial focus on how it impacts the future as these are two ordeals that are well within a persons control. Though the past should be left without focus however always remembered as it was once the present . Also please respond I would love to hear your take , I also greatly appreciate your videos many more people need to become better informed of secularism/ philosophy as I feel majority of religious followers are only present due to ignorance and if the truth were present before them they might enable themselves to accept it .
As far as I can tell, No. Religion is based upon dogmatic belief, or a doctrine, which only encompasses one side of a coin: either right, or wrong. If a religion goes beyond it natures into a philosophical realm, it will eventually contradict itself. Thus, a religion wouldn't be able to survive in a philosophical or scientifical realm.
@@KumarsGaming I haven't done much research about Hinduism, so I couldn't tell. My previous comment was referred to Abrahamic religion in particular :) What do you think about philosophy in Hinduism, tho?
@@otkogaming224 honestly ? it is too vast, it has one school of though called 'nastik' which believes god doesn't exist and is atheist. Pretty rare in a religion to have this.
@@KumarsGaming Hmm that's interesting, I should do some research about it later. What I'm really into is Samadhi, which I think came from Hinduism itself? Although it's more of a practice, but I think there's a philosophical sense on it as well. Correct me if I'm wrong :)
i guess its a matter of opinion because to me i don't consider stoic a religion but a way of thinking, kinda like philosophy...it's just another mans perspective on life/subjects
Einzelgänger means, lone wolf, loner, maverick, nonconformist, rogue. That is in a German language context. As far as I know, this guy is Dutch. So it might mean, something slightly different.
Common Sense isnt so common anymore, anywhere, anyhow...Those buddhists concepts borrow heavily from Sanatana Dharma. The Buddha was after all a Indian Hindu prince and tutored in all things Hinduism especially Advaita, Kriya Yoga etc...
Buddhism z also Sanatana Dharma!..Buddha called his Dharma as Sadda dharmo(True teachings),Ariya dhammo(Noble teachings),Sanatano dhammo(Eternal teachings)......what u mean to say z dat Upanishadic and Yogic teachings influenced him,YES and also vice versa...Even Buddhism influenced Vedanta as Gaudapada (shankara's gurus' guru) used a lot of concepts Vijnanavada Buddhism and Madhyamika Buddhism to establish his adviata philosophy in Ajativada sutra...!!
@@constipatedbowels3473 No it isnt Sanatana Dharma. By your rational Sikhism, Jainism etc are too? Then why the different isms? The fact is Siddharta did not create Buddhism it is also man made religion by his followers Sanatana Dharma doesnt need to borrow anything as it is the mother of all religions period nevermind Buddhism. Every religion that ever existed has elements of Sanatana Dharma in it. And remember Buddhas original teachings were oral and only written down hundreds of years later so the original message is long gone. Like i said, sense isnt common anymore, as you have displayed. You just posted utter nonsense!!! Nobodies teachings are true, because God alone is Truth not a mere mortal like Siddharta
@@jammasterj13 hahaha... 1.God z nothing but an figment of ur imagination.......!..the way Vedanta or upanishad define God z completely different from the way u r using the term.... 2.Sanatana Dharma z a term picked up by few sages in India,as a indicator to denote "Eternal law"...now Siddhartha Gautama has used da very same term in bis teachings....so if u have a problem wid dat,then take it up wid him,instead of argueing irrationally.... 3.By stressing too much on dese words,"Sanatana Dharma",u keep missing the main point....that metaphor in Buddhism,where the fingers pointing at the moon are mistaken for the moon itself z absolutely applicable in ur case,and itz funny dat u talk of common sense,while displaying the complete lack of it....!!... 4.Buddhism,Jainism,Samkhya-Yoga,Vedanta and itz multiple branches are different philosophical schools of thought,which have employed different methodologies to help humans get rid of their suffering and attain clarity and bliss...sure they have used different models , hence despite many similarities ,dey have some differences..... 5."Isms" are inventions of irrational ppl like u,who have no interest in liberation or anything,and just like to collonise teachings of one sect in order to fight wid other....instead of trying to find the true nature of God,u create a mythical God ,and try to defame,and undermine other sects,based on ur fictional distorted manipulations of ancient teaching.....
@@jammasterj13 hahahaha..I already m conversating wid a baboon,and datz u!...da way u just behaved , z exactly how ppl behave when dey get dier butt kicked in logical discourse!.....why enter a logical debate when u have the IQ of a caterpillar...? ......😂😂......and ur frustrated reaction to my comment z proof of how much of a Sanatana dharmi u are!....u dnt know shit about ur own religion.... ..go back to being a blind-believer of some cult leader like Ram Rahim!....
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This is awesome, really clear, concise.
Thanks this was a great resource for the rap I just dropped about stoicism on my channel.
Stoicism is the greatest teaching I have ever come across in my life nothing else comes close to it.
Please read plotinus and then Plato.
Couldn't agree more!!!
I like the compassion part of Buddhism too.
Taoism
@@motivationrediscoverIf you truly didn't care, you wouldn't say it.
I see Taoism and Buddhism as related by history in China before Zen's moving to Korea and Japan.
I was not aware of Buddhism influence on Stoicism. I will now look at the connection. Thank you.
Actually I even recognise a lot of Taoism and even Confucianism in stoicism!
@@rshmnz I personally see more Taoism than Buddhism in Stoicism, but I think we tend to focus on the parts of each view point we are interested in and then see the similarities as we struggle to detach ourselves from our personal preference / interest.
@@TheBrick2 Could be! but remember that asian religions/Philosophies overlap each other, influence each other and it's never clear where one ends and the other starts. In China, for example, both Buddhists and Taoists worship the Guanyn and the Guangong gods... symbols of buddhism can be found in Taoist temples and vice-versa. ;)
When it comes to comparing these philosophies that have been raised, I’d say that Daoism/Cynicism and Confucianism/Stoicism are ultimately the closest counterparts. All of them believe in leading virtuous lives in accordance with nature but approach doing so differently. Basically, Daoists and Cynics emphasize natural living while Confucians and Stoics lean into virtue ethics. Daoists and Cynics see organized society as a perversion of nature and the conscious practice of specific virtues as very likely to come into conflict with the flow of nature. On the other hand, Confucians and Stoics see organized society as an extension of nature and the conscious practice of specific virtues as essential to aligning oneself with the flow of nature. There are differences between those in each pair of course which are emblematic of the wider differences between Chinese and Greek schools of thought. While all of them had some kind of a spiritual dimension from the start, they were largely focused on operating within this world. Buddhism often gets characterized as a secular philosophy, but one need only look at historically Buddhist countries to see that it is a deeply religious tradition. The main issue it deals with is liberation from suffering in the cycle of death and rebirth which would make its, for lack of a better term, Western counterpart Christianity given that it somewhat similarly speaks of deliverance from the curse of death into everlasting life. As with the other sets, they’re not the same obviously. But the fact that they both frame the nature of the world as something unsatisfactory or fallen to actively transcend at the individual level and are centered around a teacher who is said to have shown man the path out of it by way of spiritual practice coupled with moral goodness do come across as fairly comparable. Granted, this has little to do with whether or not there was direct influence going on between any of these movements. At any rate, there is truth to the notion that the parallels which most stand out to us are going to be informed by our preferences and interests to some degree.
I'd like to read your book on insults. One of the hardest things to accept is that other people are not kind, loving, warm, considerate, or even nice, and that we can actually decide not to hate them despite that.
Couldn't one say that no one is ever always kind, loving, warm, or nice? I know I am not the channel owner, but I feel empathy as well as understanding the common faults of humanity, what is within our very nature, is a way to not let insults get to you.
Here's a to keep in mind. "Wishing to be who you are not, is neglecting the person that you already are.
Early Buddhism influence my life a lot, the practice help me to face the impermanent of life , and less suffering.
It's not only philosophy, but have the real path to end the suffering that we can practice daily, example mindfulness in daily life, Anapana sati, and vipassana. This help us make better decision, more awareness, calm and have better life in here and now🙏
Please, make more content about Buddhism and Stoicism, comparative! Tks!
I will make a video about it in the near future. Thanks a lot!
I would have loved to be around when Buddhists & stoics got together to debate and watched to see how each shared and changed.
I feel like religions have some aspects of stoicism and it seems like if people ACTUALLY follow their religion combined with LOGIC then that would probably be the correct way to practice, so many people get caught up on the small details in religion rather than using their logic
We need to understand that we live in a society where there is competition and there will be unfair people around us, we cannot fully follow the rules mentioned in Buddhism or for that matter any religious text book.
We cannot show gratitude or stay calm in face of daily chaos.
Stoicism teaches us to respond to situations than react, which is very important in todays world of over population, individualism and distractions .
To live a happy life I always remember
to:
ACCEPT WHAT I CANT CHANGE
TO CHANGE WHAT I CAN, FOR THE BETTERMENT OF MY FAMILY
AND MYSELF
&
ALWAYS BE AWARE OF YOUR BREATH WHEN U INHALE & EXHALE.
That's stoicism for me, thats my religion.
Two random, but relevant tidbits:
1. Jesus is frequently referred to as the Logos in the Greek Orthodox Church.
2. The exchange of ideas between east and west can be clearly seen in certain statues of the Buddha, which demonstrate the wet drapery style, a classical Greek convention.
Interesting! In regards to the second point: I'm reading a book at the moment called 'The Path' (by Puett) which also mentions that somehow there must have been an exchange of philosophical ideas across Eurasia at that time.
I’ll have to check that out at some point, sounds cool.
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I think, specifically, the ZEN school of Buddhism, which is why the Samurai embraced it later. Other branches of Buddhism tended to be more ceremonial or esoteric.
"At 72, and having experienced some of the same education as Einzelganger, My perspective was greatly and forever changed by Joseph Campbell position that "the religions of the world to be the various culturally influenced "masks" of the same fundamental, transcendent truths." And it occured to me, that there is a fundamental difference between "religion" and spirituality. Spirituality contends with the relationship of a human beiing's existence to the world and beyond, including purpose and responsibilities. Religion institutionalizes practices and rituals, like swinging a scented candle during a service, or joining in unison to repeat a prayer or holy text, such that it might bring one to a certain place of insight. The Stoics seemed predisposed to focus on Self, and leave the condition of the World - to the world. That is neither good nor bad, it is just an outlook on all that there is to be known, and that can never be known. As far as Einzelganger - I have never listened to anyone - especially of such an apparent young age - who grasped and articulated his perspectives with such clarity, brevity and absentia of opinion. It is truly a wonderful experience to have his counsel.
The teaching of Buddhism is absolutely a crucial for our daily life. The buddhism shows the path ( eightfold path) to all human being to practice in accordance with natural law.
what is the difference between wu wei and amor fati
It looks to me that amor fati already describes what it means, it is logically clear, and all there is is for you to strive for it and develop it. Wu wei is not logical, but it is a bit closer to a natural consequence of training the mind and the body in conformity with the dao, or "in the way that things naturally happen or come to be".
But that's just me talking.
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I personally synchronize Christianity with Stoicism along with a few other philosophies
I would like to see to see a comparison with Taoism with Buddhism and stoicism.
I wonder if there's some connection to the earlier philosophy or belief system
Nice attempt. Please also throw some light on the concepts of Nafs and then Ehsaan, in Islamic Tradition.
Always intellectually informative. Liked, faved, and subbed.
Thank you Kevin, and welcome!
Ahm can you make a video about similarity of Christianity and Stoicism?
Hey Einzelgänger! Have you read read Bhagwat Geeta? It is a Sanatan Dharma (Hindu) book also known as “song of the lord”. All the points of Buddhism and Stoicism can be found there too.
I have not saying that the ideas belong to Sanatan Dharma but mentioning the fact that these are some eternal truths.
I suggest you read the Geeta and make a video about your views. Thanks!
Bhagavad gita is the closest theology and ethics to stoicism as far as i know.
I am not hindu, though practice orthodox stoicism together with some gnostic and buddhist principles and the bhagavad gita is one of my foremost resources.
I also am commited to brahmacharya which is stoic in essence.
Many modern "stoics" (non-stoics/hedonists in essence, as I see on reddit and some scholars like Pugliucci) tend to fall into the western trap of still being hedonists, i.e. thinking temperance means regulating/planning pleasure, leading to them still valueing pleasures over wisdom; they somehow fail to grasp the scriptures or believe they know better about passions and what the stoics wrote about the effects of the passions on the soul
Wow...I cant thank you enough for this content.Thank you.
Thank you for this channel.
Are you Dutch? Nice! Thanks for the content! Never looked at Stoicism this way.!
Stoicism can also be compared with Christianity! For instance, sacrificing our lives for others! ➕
4:50 The same thing is written in Holy Sreemad Bhagwat Geeta chapter 6. I think you should have an interview with Mr. Acharya prashant who is a famouse philosopher here in India and an environment activist. He has a extremely deep knowledge on all philosophies on earth. He is probably the most intellectual philosophers and author in India.
I have done much research into this topic and I don’t believe one came from the other but that they are two arms of a whole body. They are both apart of an original way of thinking.
Actually original Buddhism denies the very existence of a "self"...deeds get done but there is no doer thereof. Much more inline with Advaita Vendata = not 2
One of the commonalities is meditations on death, and both are very different.
I read somewhere that Alexander the Great was so impressed by the holy men and philosophers in India when was there that he brought a number of yogis and brahmans back to Greece with him. This might be a good place to start some research. Also, the word "Christos" in Greek corresponds to "Krishna" of the Hindus, the "Devil" of the Bible to the "Devas" (demigods) of India and the words "Abraham" and "Sarah" correspond to the Indian Brahman and Sarasvati.
That's your ignorance
Alexander never went back to Greece.
He probably was impressed by their philosophies, himself being trained by Aristotle, we can be relatively sure that indians didn't come back to Greece, considering the political chaos after his death.
The greeks taught however that their philsophies/mysteries have their origins with the chaldeans and persian magi (in modern iraq/western persia), so it is possible that the indoaryans were the founders for both philosophies and esoteric systems.
And these teachings are way older than the time of Alexander.
You'll see some evidence in the allegories of the germanic for example, especially about brahmacharya and serpent symbolism which is amazing to think about.
The aztecs though might be the main link (they have the same symbology for sexual transmutation as the greeks with the winged serpent (rod of hermes, Moses raising the serpent etc), so I am convinced that at least the core of those teachings (purification through the sex force/creative principle) has the same origin, either fantastical (Atlantis or whatever) or from the persian-Indus-caucasian steppe -basin, from where we can track the migration of all those groups.
Yes many similarities I can identify being Theravada Buddhist myself studied and practicing ... great Chanel and thank you for the wisdom you share ,however the laughing Buddha in the thumbnail has nothing to do with Buddhism:)
Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu
The only difference between stoicism and the dao/ zen is the fact that stoicism relates the equanimity to reason while the East relates it to the heart. In reality though, the heart is the ultimate thing that determines our rational capabilities.
I like very much your work, I'm interested in learning about Stoicism and applying in my life. I have a question about the idea in Stoicism that the individual has a choice on reacting or not to an external event. My thoughts and personal experiences are that if the reaction to an external event is controlled at the unconscious level , how does that person have a choice in changing their reaction ?
i discovered that i am a stoic have been one..i follow the word of Christ..the teachings of Christ...Jesus was a critical thinker. ''Turn the other cheek.''
i also follow many teachings of Budda...later in my life. Finding Stoicism is the Trinity now of my beliefs.
Concerning insults. We have been taught by definition that they are disrespectful. But if it's the truth shouldn't we thank the person for pointing it out to us? Why can't we handle the truth. Becoming upset at someone for speaking the truth is illogical.
And on the other hand if it's not true. Why does it also upset us? Shouldn't we be laughing at them instead for being a fool?
Our ego and emotions gets in the way of being logical and learning because we were taught it was disrespectful to speak the truth.
Epictetus and stoicism can be considered like a religion in the same way that Confucious, as a historical scholar trying to convince rulers to be good for the sake of others, can be seen in China as a moral, religious leader. I sometimes think that Confucious is like Plato's Socrates and Mencius is like Aristotle. Aristotle is tough for me to figure out though. And Epircurus sure does seem like a religious cult figure with his garden community of select friends even if he sounds like a really good, smart guy just trying to live the good life and look out for his friends.
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Absolutely!
Please, make a video about buddhism vs taoism
I am wondering if you are aware of David Carradine's character in the TV series Kung Fu and if you think it is worth a critique by your good self?
Thank you
Nice work! keep it up!
Nice video once again👍
You do know that is not the image of a Buddha, but a Chinese Arhat
I see 'Stoicism and Minimalism' as a philosophy and not as a religion.
Unfortunately I cannot by your ebook in Australia via Amazon. Is there another way to get it?
Buddhism, Stoicism, Existentialism.
Can I be a Stoic and a Pantheist at the same time?
I must say I can align myself with a vast majority of virtues conveyed by the stoic “philosophy” ( I don’t consider stoicism a religion as in its more common light I don’t believe it directly denotes of a higher beings, or supernatural occurrences unlike Buddhism which would very much so fit into the philosophy category if not for concepts like ; karma ,reincarnation,and nirvana. Anyways one of the very few ordeals that I strongly disagree with about the philosophy of stoicism is living in the present, as I see it as one of the biggest faults and teachings in modern and “ancient” philosophy. For the present is the second least important of three states of time give direct focus to.. as it last for less than a second yet is seemingly eternal but the fact of the matter is we are always living in the future for ones actions in the present should only be to reap the benefits made available in a near future . For example “working out” the entirety of the motivation behind working out is how your efforts will pay off in the future...your result will not pay off in the present but in a future that will later become the present.. we live for the future living in the now will only lead to a lack of motivation and a lack in productivity when working on a large building you work for the beauty of the building in its finished form which is always in the future if people only became motivated and focused on the present nothing would get done and in my Opinion though most would disagree I feel as though the thought processes of living in the now even partially contradicts basic stoic principles even though many would say the future is out of our control ,l would argue it’s one of the few things that Is as the present sculpts the future , in other words living for the now should be accepted only with partial focus on how it impacts the future as these are two ordeals that are well within a persons control. Though the past should be left without focus however always remembered as it was once the present . Also please respond I would love to hear your take , I also greatly appreciate your videos many more people need to become better informed of secularism/ philosophy as I feel majority of religious followers are only present due to ignorance and if the truth were present before them they might enable themselves to accept it .
You should read more.
So, both seem to add up to play INDIFFERENCE as shield 😑
As philosophy could made into religion, then are religion are turned into philosophy as well ?
As far as I can tell, No. Religion is based upon dogmatic belief, or a doctrine, which only encompasses one side of a coin: either right, or wrong. If a religion goes beyond it natures into a philosophical realm, it will eventually contradict itself. Thus, a religion wouldn't be able to survive in a philosophical or scientifical realm.
@@otkogaming224 what do you think about hinduism religion which had 7 or maybe 8 schools of thoughts on philosophy ?
@@KumarsGaming I haven't done much research about Hinduism, so I couldn't tell. My previous comment was referred to Abrahamic religion in particular :) What do you think about philosophy in Hinduism, tho?
@@otkogaming224 honestly ? it is too vast, it has one school of though called 'nastik' which believes god doesn't exist and is atheist. Pretty rare in a religion to have this.
@@KumarsGaming Hmm that's interesting, I should do some research about it later. What I'm really into is Samadhi, which I think came from Hinduism itself? Although it's more of a practice, but I think there's a philosophical sense on it as well. Correct me if I'm wrong :)
Stoicism & Buddhism is more related to Hinduism
You could have taken Buddha statue created by Greeks!
lmfao around 4:00 .GOLD
What religion r u bro?
Cashasism
Could you talk about Gnosticism? 😀😁
i guess its a matter of opinion because to me i don't consider stoic a religion but a way of thinking, kinda like philosophy...it's just another mans perspective on life/subjects
Einzelgainger. What does this word mean?
Einzelgänger means, lone wolf, loner, maverick, nonconformist, rogue.
That is in a German language context. As far as I know, this guy is Dutch. So it might mean, something slightly different.
Finished that book yet?
I'm going to publish one soon..
Common Sense isnt so common anymore, anywhere, anyhow...Those buddhists concepts borrow heavily from Sanatana Dharma. The Buddha was after all a Indian Hindu prince and tutored in all things Hinduism especially Advaita, Kriya Yoga etc...
Buddhism z also Sanatana Dharma!..Buddha called his Dharma as Sadda dharmo(True teachings),Ariya dhammo(Noble teachings),Sanatano dhammo(Eternal teachings)......what u mean to say z dat Upanishadic and Yogic teachings influenced him,YES and also vice versa...Even Buddhism influenced Vedanta as Gaudapada (shankara's gurus' guru) used a lot of concepts Vijnanavada Buddhism and Madhyamika Buddhism to establish his adviata philosophy in Ajativada sutra...!!
@@constipatedbowels3473 No it isnt Sanatana Dharma. By your rational Sikhism, Jainism etc are too? Then why the different isms? The fact is Siddharta did not create Buddhism it is also man made religion by his followers Sanatana Dharma doesnt need to borrow anything as it is the mother of all religions period nevermind Buddhism. Every religion that ever existed has elements of Sanatana Dharma in it. And remember Buddhas original teachings were oral and only written down hundreds of years later so the original message is long gone. Like i said, sense isnt common anymore, as you have displayed. You just posted utter nonsense!!! Nobodies teachings are true, because God alone is Truth not a mere mortal like Siddharta
@@jammasterj13 hahaha...
1.God z nothing but an figment of ur imagination.......!..the way Vedanta or upanishad define God z completely different from the way u r using the term....
2.Sanatana Dharma z a term picked up by few sages in India,as a indicator to denote "Eternal law"...now Siddhartha Gautama has used da very same term in bis teachings....so if u have a problem wid dat,then take it up wid him,instead of argueing irrationally....
3.By stressing too much on dese words,"Sanatana Dharma",u keep missing the main point....that metaphor in Buddhism,where the fingers pointing at the moon are mistaken for the moon itself z absolutely applicable in ur case,and itz funny dat u talk of common sense,while displaying the complete lack of it....!!...
4.Buddhism,Jainism,Samkhya-Yoga,Vedanta and itz multiple branches are different philosophical schools of thought,which have employed different methodologies to help humans get rid of their suffering and attain clarity and bliss...sure they have used different models , hence despite many similarities ,dey have some differences.....
5."Isms" are inventions of irrational ppl like u,who have no interest in liberation or anything,and just like to collonise teachings of one sect in order to fight wid other....instead of trying to find the true nature of God,u create a mythical God ,and try to defame,and undermine other sects,based on ur fictional distorted manipulations of ancient teaching.....
@@jammasterj13 hahahaha..I already m conversating wid a baboon,and datz u!...da way u just behaved , z exactly how ppl behave when dey get dier butt kicked in logical discourse!.....why enter a logical debate when u have the IQ of a caterpillar...? ......😂😂......and ur frustrated reaction to my comment z proof of how much of a Sanatana dharmi u are!....u dnt know shit about ur own religion.... ..go back to being a blind-believer of some cult leader like Ram Rahim!....
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What does the name of channel mean?
It's more like a german word for a person, who is walking alone
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To add a 3rd layer: A person who pursues independent thought or action, or a nonconformist/maverick.
Lone wolf he calls himself that because he is a Loner just like me
Haven't u watched his video called "how to be a Loner" it's one of the first videos he uploaded
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