If Hondas Are So Reliable Why Are All Of Mine Broken?!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 เม.ย. 2023
- Well...my 2021 Honda Rebel 1100 and my 2022 Honda Navi are both broken, just in time for riding season. One of them is an easy enough fix, but the other one...eh...I guess we'll find out.
My Hondas have always been reliable and good to me, so it sucks to see 2 of the 3 out of commission. Especially when a bike as new as the Rebel 1100 has an oil leak like that already.
Times like this show me how blessed we are to have so many "back up bikes" though! Stay tuned for updates on the diagnosis and fixes!
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There seem to be lots of comments saying the same things, so I’ll address them here to make it easier for all of us-
Yes, I mounted the exhaust myself. No, I didn’t use a torque wrench because the spec is 21lbs which felt easily eyeball-able. When I fix it, I’ll use a torque wrench to know if over/under tightening was the cause or not. User error definitely could’ve played a part in that, which I said in the video, however countless Navi’s have had issues at/around/involving the exhaust flange. Vance & Hines had to recall and redesign their Navi exhaust because so many broke at the flange. Whether this is a similar issue, but the Yoshi is just stronger so the stud broke instead of the flange, is yet to be determined. But obviously once I get the nuts spec’d *exactly* then we’ll know more when we see if the issue happens again.
The stud is not the “reliability” I’m talking about in the title though. The reliability in question is the Rebel 1100’s leaks, which are becoming more and more common for the 2021 model year, and obviously have zero to do with user error and everything to do with the hiccups of a new model. I’m not saying that Hondas are unreliable, I’m just making a joke about the fact that Honda is one of the most reliable brands, yet two of mine are out of commission. I’m laughing through the pain, not genuinely saying something about Honda’s reliability lol
I’ve owned ONLY Honda motorcycles (aside from my FZ07) and never had issues with ANY of them. Not the Grom, the other Navi, the VFR750, the VFR800, the two Rebel 300’s, or the two Rebel 500’s. This is not a question of Honda’s reliability. If I thought they were unreliable, my girlfriend and I wouldn’t collectively own 5 Honda motorcycles and 2 Honda cars. I’m simply documenting the issues that happened, like I always do on this channel.
I still love the hell out of my Rebel 1100 and this doesn’t change that. I also don’t think this should deter anyone from buying one. It’s just a lesson learned for me to buy an extended warranty with any new model year bike, because there’s bound to be hiccups with a new model year ANYTHING.
Hope that clarifies things.
Am I crazy to think when the exhaust was "broken" it sounded better? But that's probably because my main ride is a Fiat 500 Abarth that is designed to sound like that...
Yeah, 21 ft/lb is decent to eyeball, at the same point, I've broken enough oil filter cans, a few wheel lugs, etc. in my cars that my set of torque wrenches get used all the friggin' time now. I don't think it was user error, but without using the torque wrench, I can't ever cross that off and feel better about it myself. I just wish they made torque wrenches in more sizes, cause getting them in my Fiat's tiny engine compartment is a pain.
Last note: yes, first model year of any new model is known to be troublesome across any car / bike / etc. It's why I waited til 2017 to buy my Focus RS (and yet they still had the issue where they installed the head gaskets from the 2.3 mustang instead of the 2.3 RS and caused full engine rebuilds *facepalm*). The ONLY "safe" model years are literally like 4-5 years down the road, cause it means there's usually cars out there with 100-150k on the clock from that build, so even the hidden transmission and engine stuff will usually show up by then, and for Bikes it's less mileage, but around the same timeframe.
It definitely isn't Honda built the stuff poorly, it's literally coincidence that multiple things happened at once, exacerbated by first model year growing pains. I had a crap-ton of issues in my Scion when I owned it (built by Toyota, even the engine had the toyota symbol instead of scion) because it was a first year model, and even the dealership mechanics said that even 1 year later, Toyota had figured all the stuff out and they hardly ever saw them come in (at the time I didn't have tools to work on it myself).
/endrant
Use a torque wrench, don't pretend you can eyeball shit. It was over-torqued and it sheered off. It happens all the time in these instances.
Stop breaking your bikes bro lol (jk). I watched your install and everything was done correctly except you really should use a torque wrench. Not a knock but just advice from one guy to another. You can get away with not using one in some instances but never on smaller studs or bolts. In your defense though, I have had several people ask me about issues with certain exhaust systems on their Navis. Similar issues worth noting but not common. You can try a Hotlap pipe next. I got one of the first in U.S. and no issues yet.
i dont think It was over-torqued, i think one of the bolts was not tight enough, it started getting loose, and exchaust was just hanging on 1 bolt, those bumps you hit was to mutch for just 1 bolt, so it sheared off, as you kept going the already loose bolt continued to get looser and increasing the sound until it fell off completly
@@tomerik8785 You know it was improperly torqued. You know this because he did not use a torque wrench and could not verify it was tightened to manufacturer specifications. Literally everything else is bullshit fantasy; be it yours, mine, or whoever else wants to chime in.
I'm not saying you're right or wrong, I'm saying the only fact we do have could very easily result in such a failure.
Bro. If you remember me. I’m the guy who you helped look for his wallet on the bridge in Annapolis.
I was able to recover my wallet and everything in it. Of course I changed all information out. But I wanted to say thank you for just being a kind enough person/rider to stop and help a fellow rider out.
Let me know if you need any help in the future
The groms nuts were over torqued, use your torque wrench kids
I’m gonna assume you mean the Navi lol but yea there’s a chance they were over torqued. In all honestly I didn’t use a torque wrench, but the spec is 21 lbs which feels eyeball-able. I’m for sure using a torque wrench for round two though so if it happens again I know that’s not the issue. Sooo many Navi’s have had cracks at/around/involving the exhaust flange at this point.
I think because the exhaust intake is positioned right under the entire bike. Lots of weight that can get knocked against those very slim and long exhaust pipes or the inlet from Yoshi isn’t machined quite right? Or the intake from Honda wasn’t machined correctly? Or the nuts were over torqued. 😂😂😢❤
Same thing happened to my navi, had to end up getting a whole new cylinder head on it.
@@codyhastings8559 daaamn that sucks bro 😔 What exhaust were you running?
Makes me appreciate that the Rebel comes with a 5 year warranty here, although I had no issues with mine. It's just nice to know that issues like this would be taken care of cost free.
Yea lesson learned for me to upgrade to the extended warranty when purchasing new models! I should’ve known better, but assumed it would be a waste of money since all my Hondas have always been so reliable.
My nt 1100 also has standard 5 year warranty and honda assistance in all of Europe
When you installed that aftermarket exhaust system on the Navi did you make sure to not over-torque those bolts? I know it seems silly, but it's extremely common and very easy thing to do. So that added stress to the bolt would have weakened it, causing it to shear when you hit that bump.
Ugh that sucks. Sorry about your bikes man 😭 i hope the 1100 has a speedy recovery and makes it to the meetup.
Thanks man! 🙏🏻
Bro, thank you for continuing to make great content. Always love tuning into your videos. You've inspired me to pick up a navi as my second bike.
Yooo that’s so sick man!! Thanks for watching and supporting! 🙌🏻🙏🏻🤘🏻
Thanks for the PSA on the exhaust studs. I just rechecked mine and made sure they were torqued to spec.
I have a 2022 rebel 1100. I’ve ridden 12000 miles so far. Rode from Oakland to Nashville (moved)
No issues what so ever still for this bike. I had to replace the tires that’s it.
Let's go right down the line here. Broken means MECHANICAL FAILURE, which means the bike(s) isn't running at all. So, the problem with the Navi isn't mechanical failure but the fact that you didn't Loctite the studs after you switched from an OEM exhaust to an aftermarket exhaust. That's called user error. That's not Honda's fault. Whenever you brake a factory torqued nut and bolt--especially from a vibrating component--if you don't Loctite that nut and bolt you're going to lose the nut. Next: You continued to ride your Navi knowing the remaining nut was loose. Continuous vibration not only caused the nut to work itself free, the combined weight of the exhaust and jarring from hitting bumps and potholes more than likely broke off the stud. Again, user error. Not Honda's fault.
Oil leak. Again, not a mechanical failure but a simple leak. A simple oil leak is a nuisance not the end of the motorcycle's operation. I'll take fixing a simple leak for a couple dollars over having a blown head or a failed oil pump like a Harley, which causes a lot more internal damage. Slight weeping from a water pump in extreme cases my cause eventual water pump failure. Still a simple fix if you fix it early instead of ignoring it for hundreds or thousands of miles to the point of complete failure. Again, a tiny drop of weeping from a weep hole does not equate to having a broken bike. I've been riding Honda motorcycles from the time I bought a 1983 Nighthawk 550 to my current 2013 Shadow Phantom 750 among other bikes. I have completely neglected both bikes, wrecked them numerous times and clocked tens of thousands of cross country miles on both bikes. Neither bike so much as whimpered let alone broke or had mechanical failure. Be happy that the small problems you have with your Hondas are not only few and far between but also inexpensive and easily repairable.
Good/bad thing about motorcycles is how open it is. Easy to find the issue, but not much in terms of protection. I just got a 2023 Honda NC750X and I'm loving it so far. Just reminds me I need to do walk throughs before each ride, just in case.
You should help me change the air filter on my GL1800!
Literally bought my 23' Rebel 1100T and almost didn't get the extended warranty yesterday looking at that oil coolent mix and knowing that my dct is eventually probably going to give me issues makes me happy I let the dealer talk me into it
Better safe than sorry for sure! So far these issues seem to be isolated to the 2021 model years only though 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
We are picking up an 1100 tomorrow, and excited to put out some content in our own style. Your various product reviews have already led to a pile of parts building up before I have even been handed the keys, keep up the good work 🤙
Congrats on the 1100!! So exciting! And my apologies to your wallet for the pile of parts you’ve already acquired 😂🤘🏻
@@LifeOfBurch hey, it be like that. Between this, the BlackBird, and the rally Miata, there's a lot worse things to blow money on.
@@redhenracing2 WAIITTT. Rally Miata?! BRB watching your videos 😳
@@LifeOfBurch ayyy get in here man, find an excuse to come through Minnesota and come rip one with us
@@LifeOfBurch highly recommend this one, it was a banger th-cam.com/video/M9uoUtBTS7A/w-d-xo.html
Hi Burch, I Also believe that Honda is something more than Nice logo....... I hope I will not have these problems. I am persuated it IS overtorqued on Navi. And I Also hope my Rebel will be fine. Thanks for this video👍
I drive yamaha and triumphs, usually my neighbor helps me solve all the issues I've had really glad he's so knowledgeable said he got all his experience fixing his honda shadow.
My 2022 Grom needed a rebuild at 700 miles. A bearing in the transmission went bad and cooked everything. New piston, rings and all kinds of other stuff installed by the dealer under warranty. Took forever.
Great video Burch !!! 🤙🏽
Thanks Marvin!! 🙌🏻🤘🏻
YAY PETE’S CYCLE!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼 low cost and fast and easy fix!
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Hello Burch!
I love your videos, I saw the video on Memphis windshield you made and have a
maybe odd question.
I'm 167 cm "small" ,witch windshield do you think would be best the 13 or 15 inch.
The weep hole that is leaking usually indicates a bearing starting to fail. I work in the car industry. See it all the time. Like the ford 3.5 L engine where the coolant mixes with oil. I just found out my fz1 oil pump and water pump are 1 assembly. Idk if yours is the same setup.
Dude I immediately went outside and started looking at the bottom of my bike lol. Thanking god for small miracles so far. Sad to hear, but at least you spotted it early.
Definitely glad I spotted it as early as I did! The issues seem to be isolated to 2021 model years so far, so if you have a later year you should hopefully be good 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
@@LifeOfBurch Naw man, signed my paperwork Oct 2021 while it was on the way to the dealer from factory. Maybe it was a later run that year or at least I'm hoping. Hope you get a cheap repair on it though.
Is there enough support on the exhaust pipe? Because if there isn't, there's a good chance it puts all the load on the flange and snaps the studs
Hey. Great video thanks! I'll check mine as well.
Did you notice wobble on 45-55mpg?
I can feel it if I put on cruise control and lightly remove my hands of.
I replaced the tires but still have the issue
Interesting…I haven’t experienced that 🤔
Good advice. If something is broke, check what you riled last.
Sounds like the nuts got over torqued when installing the after market exhaust on the Navi. Stretches the studs making them prone to breaking especially with all the vibrations and bumps
Bro! You can always borrow one of my bikes if needed. BTW: The Akrapovic exhaust sounds amazing on the MT-07 (your suggestion).
Oil & coolant mixing in a car can mean a blown head gasket. Check your oil dipstick & around the radiator cap for "snot", it'll look just like it sounds.
That’s the weird thing- no oil in the coolant, and no coolant in the oil 🤔
I just bought a 1979 honda cx 500 custom for 500$ and runs like a dream
It's the old hondas that we're both fast and reliable not I think the newer ones.I have a 1981 cb250n superdream.Had problems with the ignition(early electronic) but a recon alternator and new coil fixed it.Its now a very reliable bike.
I broke a couple bolts on my 2010 Honda Rancher. They use super soft metal in their stuff. Makes a torque wrench a requirement, honestly. Look up how many Rancher crankcases have been cracked from people over tightening their oil drain plugs without a crush washer.
Have owned a few Hondas and can say most were reliable. However, I had a 2007 CBR1000RR that left me stranded on the side of the road 3 times due to a recall for the electrical system. Literally had the recall performed 3x and replaced every component of the charging system 3x and it never resolved the issue. That was the last Honda I’ve ever owned. Since then it’s been SUZ, YAM, KAW, HUSQ, KTM and HD. None of the other brands have given me any problems.
Good luck with that, see you on the 29th. You could always ride pilon with Nina!
Hahah wouldn’t that be a sight?! See you then man! 🙌🏻
Here's some for the bike, and of course great content Burch, wish all the best for ya and the bike
Thanks brother!! I hope your recovery is still going as smoothly as possible 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@LifeOfBurch Yeah, it is.
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The TL;DR Update is: Been at home since Apr. 5th, and have every other day at home nurse care (just for wound dressings to be changed) and for now like once a week Physical therapy (he will drop by more often when the doctor finally says I can put weight on right leg).
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Plan to ride again when I can. I definitely will be using a handlebar lever for the rear brake though haha.
@@MotoDash1100 all things considered, that’s seriously incredible news bro!! Can’t wait to see you back on a bike! 🤘🏻
@@LifeOfBurch Oh yeah! For sure! It could have been my left leg :P
It sucks to have breakdowns when the weather is starting to warm up. Hope everything goes well and don’t get too down on your bike. I have probably 50k miles on different motorcycle seats and no one makes rides as reliable as they used to. I remember when Honda was king if the air temp was 70 degrees and your carbs were clean. I hope anyone who reads this realizes that ABS is the only advancement in motorcycles that is important over the last 30 years. Don’t feel peer pressure to buy the new hot bike, just ride what you can afford and feel the wind and freedom. I bought a sportster new in 2001 and I’ve never cleaned the carb and I can go 15k miles on a set of tires. I’ve never bought a part that wasn’t routine maintenance.(knock on wood) I have a 1995 Kawi 1200 that will fly even compared to the new stuff and I will have 40 pounds of luggage on it. My point is simply that we should not reward Honda or any other company with sales if they don’t produce the quality that they used to. One day you will all realize that it was never the particular motorcycle that makes you feel so free, it’s the riding.
I’m not a Harley/ cruiser dude but that rebel looks sick
I've had the exhaust studs break on a Chinese motorcycle before, wouldn't expect it on a Honda. Usually caused by cheap studs being used, and the heat and vibration will cause the cheap components to come apart enough to break. Not totally uncommon on pit bikes and things like that.
The 1100 though is real surprising. Especially considering that it's not really an all new engine or anything. But in my experience, motorcycles aren't held to the same quality as cars. I have a Moto Guzzi and I've had a few issues with it at only 5k miles. Pisses me off extra though, because they've basically been making the same engine for 100 years. You really can't get it dialed after an entire century guys?!
Is this a problem with the 2022's ? Prayers Flying for safe travels
I'm hoping the best for you brother I I just had to put my Grom in the shop Easter weekend My throttle got stuck on my Grom and was sad about it I just got brand new bars put on when my throttle got stuck where I messed up is I held my clutch then I popped my clutch with threw me off my bike I got banged up kind of good but rather grace of God I'm good My wounds will heal
Brought mine to a dealer with the same leak and I was told it’s the stator leak just like the issue on the Africa Twin. Dealer replaced stator while under warranty.
Could I get the VIN off your Rebel. I want to compare it to mine to see if they were built about the same time. Mine is one of the first 2021s, VIN ending in 001416
is that exhaust can mounted into the frame or something? if not, that maybe the reason why the stud broke. Imbalance causes excessive vibration when you ride it.,
Edit: Nevermind, saw the bracket underneath
My brother got a brand new rebel 500 and instantly it started having problems from clutch cable coming off to overheating issues. Eventually it had to be left at the shop for weeks to get replacements that not even the dealer knew why.
Oh and it was also slightly damaged during shipping so the tires had to be replaced.
I've seen a lot of Honda issues lately.
Meanwhile when I got my new ktm, it just had predictable ktm issues but no show stoppers
It's because most of their affordable bikes aren't made in Japan anymore. Companies like Suzuki and Kawasaki still make theirs in Japan, but Honda has been building in Thailand and the Philippines. Almost all their bikes made there have issues. Outsourcing to third world countries for this kind of thing was a mistake on Hondas part.
My zpro exhaust almost fell
Off the other day too. Aftermarket exhaust. Had a bad vibration and backfires on decel. Thankfully I caught it before I lost any parts. Used the tool kit and tightened it up and we were good. Best to use loctite medium on the exhaust studs and nuts. These bikes like to rattle themselves apart.
loctite wouldn't do much because of the extreme heat generated down there
@@tonnitropartas I mean. You use loctite on ford 4.6l heads when the spark plugs blow out. It works just fine holding in the rethreads. Car manufacturers use loctite on all sorts of bolts that get hot.
Years back, my CB500F leaked with 2900 miles. Honda fixed it after some back and forth but it kept me from buying a new Honda for several years.
Could you do a video on all your mods for the rebel.. I wanna get one so bad I gotta save up my money 😂
It's too bad you got so many problems with the Rebel.
What is the mileage on your bike now with the oil leak on the left side?
I would be willing to bet the rebel just has a leaking seal on the water pump. Same thing happened on 2013 cbr250r's. Was bad enough many were fixed on warranty in the first year. Bad parts from a supplier I would guess.
My 2022 triumph is 1800 miles has had 7 trips to the dealership, 3 warranty claims, over 3 months at the dealership. And just last night after 4 trips to the local dealership my entire brake system has failed. After speaking with dealer and triumph America I got hung out to dry. Now I have to come outta pocket and replace the entire brake system on a bike that has 18 months left of factory warranty And the dealership fucked up my break in service and made oil leak all over my rear tire while I was on the highway. I’ll be returning to honda, my 3 other bikes with well over 20k miles on them never has issues
I will gotta bring mine for the radiator cap recall. And the slight leak at the stator grommet
Ah man you have the stator leak starting too?! Surprisingly mine isn’t a part of the radiator cap recall.
In fairness it's not the honda it's the person who installed the after market exhaust. It was either over torqued. But not an issue with honda. Its an after market dude.
They used to focus on automotive, especially 2-wheeled vehicles, but starting in 2005 it seemed they weren't there, I felt a lot of strangeness, especially the sport motorbikes that they had designed, now being developed by other manufacturers such as V4 engines.
Has anyone has the oil leak issue on the rebel 500? I haven't but want to know if this is also a known issue with the 500 as well
If you put an aftermarket exhaust on a bike, you can expect problems like that. Did you torque those nuts to spec? Did you use Loctite? Did you torque the flange nuts or the muffler bolts first? Did you use a torque wrench? It's also possible the Yoshimura flange is slightly misaligned. I doubt it was the bump -- it just found the issue for you. (Are you regretting that $500 exhaust purchase now?) With regards to the Rebel, I think you've got bigger problems than the water pump and side cover seal. I know it's at the dealer now, but did you pull the dipstick to check the oil condition? I hope it's under warranty...
You got to get the whole exhaust at its running temp then torque it down or face high chance of cracking something
Interesting, my 05 Honda CRF250R is good to go, 2017 kx85 needs a carb rebuild, and I’m not sure wtf Is wrong with my 2016 Husqvarna FC250..just won’t start…I got some troubleshooting to do…
My grom has 4200 miles on it and works great. My Honda navi is in the shop getting the carb rebuilt. It has 170 miles on it. If I get it back and have more trouble within 1,500 miles I'm getting rid of it. It just sucks that there isn't many options that are automatic, fuel injected and has the seating position of a motorcycle and not a scooter.
Navi is made in Mexico and know cars made there are known for issues.
That's because the Navi is a scooter. It's a scooter designed to look like a bike/motorcycle
1100 Honda AMC Harley. Oil leaks and problems. I was looking at an SC500 to replace my 2013 BUMMER F700 GS.....Mabe I'll keep it.
Quality control is an easy corner to cut when you're building bikes to a budget. The "rebel" line and mini motos are budget bikes so it could just be they cut too many corners. 2/3's of my Hondas are 20+ years old and I'd ride any of the 3 across the country tomorrow.
Aftermarket exhausts are not Honda's fault.
I have a deposit down on a 2023 Rebel 1100 and I've stumbled onto all of your videos and kinda worried now. Should I get my deposit back and go with Indian Scout Rogue 60 which I was gonna go with but costed much more so I went with Rebel 1100 cuz it was a great deal. I obviously didn't go through with the purchase yet but am planning to next week but have doubts now.
Don’t let this scare you, my Rebel is still my favorite bike I’ve ever ridden! Oil leak is mainly a 2021 issue and any other issues I’ve had have been dealer related and not bike related. I rented a Scout Bobber for 24hrs while my Rebel was being fixed and all I could think about was getting back to my bike. You won’t regret getting the Rebel! 🤘🏻
@LifeOfBurch Thanks for the reassurance dude. Yeah im so hyped about it. It's the Iridium grey color and the only thing I wanna change is the exhaust and I'd love to find some taller handlebars like 8-10 inch Z bars or ape but im not able to find anything for the Rebel 1100 except "universal" handlebars so im a little worried about not being able to get a higher fit for handlebars. Do you know of any ape type bars for the Rebel 1100? I dont want huge ones just want closer to shoulder level.
@@CantTreadOnMe Burly Brand has a full kit that has 12” apes and all the wire/cable extensions you’d need. Alternatively you can look up “Takumi’s World International” on Facebook and Instagram. It’s a guy from Thailand who makes anywhere from 6”-10” bars that are more…I don’t know how to describe it…pointy? Lol and I believe the 6” work with stock wiring rerouted, but anything higher you need a longer clutch cable and a brake line extension. Check out the “Honda Rebel 1100 World” Facebook group if you aren’t already on there. Lots of good info!
@LifeOfBurch Awesome thanks man. I will look right now.
Looking back do you regret getting rid of your VFR 800?
Not at all. If I hadn’t gotten rid of it, I wouldn’t have been able to get the Rebel 1100, and I love my Rebel waayyy more than I ever did the VFR! BUT I’d be lying if I said I don’t want another VFR at some point! I still check for good deals on em every once in awhile. I’d probably want to try a 98-01 gen next though. That’s what I originally was looking for until my old ‘06 fell into my lap for a deal I couldn’t pass up.
I watch a guy he bought a brand new Honda rebel 1100T he all ready trade it in he said saddle bags are very cheap to hem and they don’t lock good other stuff he didn’t like to but can’t really remember all
Bruh, you throwin me off with this hour early upload haha. Hopefully it's not too expensive to repair.
I was wondering if anyone would notice the early upload! Haha I have to be on the road at 1 so I wanted to leave time to respond to comments between packing 😂🤘🏻
Yeah messed me up too
@@FxsX24 sorry guys!! 😅😂
I have 7 Hondas and the only “problems” I’ve ever had is having to change batteries every year or two.
Then again my newest one is my 2016 ST1300.
My 3 Valkyries, ‘98 Shadow 1100, 03 Shadow 750, ‘85 V65 Magna are all ready to go anytime.
Maybe the new ones are built differently.
You need to swap your regulator rectifier to a modern model and your batterys will be fine.
Did it on my magna,vt1100and vfr.
User a 2013 cbr500r r/r with a Adapter from ebay originally made for triumph
Anyone know if Honda made any changes to the later models (22-23) to prevent this issue!
Sorry to hear about your bikes Burch!
I don’t know of any changes made, BUT I know that this is primarily documented on 2021 models. So other models should hopefully have a better chance at not experiencing this 🤞🏻
@@LifeOfBurch I hope you can get back up 100% soon man! Someday maybe I can come all the way out to one of your group rides!!! 🤞🏼👊🏻
@@CadetMeyer thanks bro! Definitely hope to see you at a ride one day!
BALTIMORE!!!!!! I’m going to buy my first bike soon. I guess I’m going to be checking out Pete Cycle
hi burch i never drove a bike before and im considering buying the rebel 1100 should i go for it
I bought one and it's a good bike smooth as can be.
@@truthhurtsalways2781 thanks buddy I think I'll go for it
Just pick up rebel 1100 for 5k straight... I thought I got a deal now thinking I should negotiate it down to 3k
It's because brand new models will always have it'd hitches and issues that need to be worked through on the manufacturing line
That’s what I’ve chalked it up to, but I thought I’d be in the clear since they were already putting essentially the same motor in the Africa Twin before making the Rebel 1100. Lesson learned to opt for the extended warranty on any brand new models in the future though!
That’s nuts😏
So you didn't use a torque wrench on the exhaust?
Read the pinned comment.
The thing is Honda should have recalled the affected units (oil leak problem)
Plus I saw a case where gold wing DCT clutch burnt n Honda agent claimed it was the rider's fault for practicing slow maneuvers !
I don't know what's going on with Honda these days ..
My leak was from the stator, Honda fixed under warranty, had the extended warranty though
I'm sorry the Rebel 1100
@@don313 2021
Pretty sure you lost the exhaust nut and never noticed, and then the heat cycle warped the exhaust flange and the bump just finished off breaking the stud. Hopefully the flange doesnt need to get machined
How many Honda motorcycles are even built in Japan anymore?
I wonder if your oil problem originated with running the bike at its limit or above its intended limit (if thats what you or someone did), not uncommon on some bikes when pushed. Maybe its just happenstance but you seem to have a lot of issues and Hondas for the numbers made just dont generally have them.
Did you watch the part of the video where 27+ others have had the same issue, or no? Maybe ALL of them have operated the motorcycle past it’s “limit” as well? Ya know…the bike already factory limited at 99mph…
@@LifeOfBurch 27 out of how many thousands of bikes? Think about it.
@@bryang3382 27 out of only the less than 4,000 in the Facebook group…I looked nowhere else. That’s huge.
Mind you, obviously not all the people in the group even own the bike or are active at all.
@LifeOfBurch It's your bike and show. Trying to help even if it may seem otherwise. Some Ducatis spit oil when run all out or so I've read. I hope you get it all figured out.
My 2015 Honda cb300 started dripping oil out of the weep, found out it's common for it to happen because the oil seal goes... Kinda annoying that this is still a Honda issue lol
Dang for real?! What was the fix?
@@LifeOfBurch was actually pretty easy, being that Im not quite a mechanic lol. Took me about 2hrs...Im hoping I can remember the names correctly...I pulled the case cover off on the side with the water pump. There are 2 seals, the oil seal and the "coolant seal". You have to replace both at the same time because they are on the same shaft. That's why sometimes it will be oil leaking and why it can just be coolant. I think your safe that they aren't mixing in the engine. I'll try to find the article that I found for my bike and send it to you on Instagram, I'm assuming it's pretty much the same thing because this was exactly my issue. I drove all last season with the small oil drip.
I just went out and checked my 2018 Rebel 500 in the same spots and there's nothing. Whew.
I haven’t heard of any 300/500 leaks, only the 1100! You should be good 🤘🏻
Typically studs don't break like this (when nuts are tight). My suggestion is one nut got loose and that caused the other still tight stud to break when exhaust was hanging on just one stud. Then the other one continued to get looser and looser until you lost it.
I would bet money this is what happened. He either didn't tighten it enough and or did not use any locktite. Definitely has not checked it to make sure nothing had vibrated loose after installing.
I always see TH-camrs pretending to be motorcycle salesman telling people they gotta buy a new bike and older bikes are unreliable.. those people are naive or dishonest. Look at the state of the world right now, I wouldn’t buy anything made before 2016 certainly not 2019. It’s done, it’s over, pretty soon in america we’ll be scrounging for clean water to drink at the rate we’re going
Go start the Grom right now. Just in case. Make sure it works lol.
Right?! I’m almost afraid to ride it until one of the others is fixed though 😂
Maybe the rebel “identifies” as a Harley?
Thought the exact same thing. My old AMF era Harley was known for "marking it's spot" in the parking lots. 🙂
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One might question your wrenching abilities.
You can question my wrenching abilities all you want- that doesn’t have shit to do with any of these leaks 😂😂😂
Both Hondas I've had left me stranded due to electrical issues!
Hey check with Honda because the rebel has some recalls
Yet both bikes start and run. They would both still get you home. So, they are reliable.
LS swap it.
Change the blinker fluid.
Don't forget to grease the disc brakes.
Check the water level inside the tank.
On the grom, change the coolant.
Pour sand in the crank case.
If nothing works for you... You doing it wrong.
BTW.... I intend to purchase a left over new Rebel 1100 at a local dealer. Feeling a little pause here, to be honest.
My 2021 PCX runs fine I barely ever ride it tho
I hate to be "that guy", but these are the problems you start running into when modifying a vehicle.
I'm not saying that we shouldn't modify our stuff, but you are literally changing how things were designed, which tends to cause problems ranging from small annoyances to functional flaws. Another factor you didn't mention with the Navi is that you also changed the rear shock out. You may have intentionally or unintentionally changed the ride height (including the angle of the brace for your exhaust) which would cause it to have more strain on the flange, resulting in the snapped bolt. It's also possible that it simply wasn't torqued properly, as others have noted.
The Rebel issue sounds like a legitimate recall. It's surprising and unfortunate, but issues happen with any manufacturer, especially on new models. Neither of these issues makes me think any less of Honda, but I hope your dealer takes care of you and sorts out this issue quickly!
Problem is you have the cheapest Honda’s made Bruddah. Stay safe!
Must not be keeping the maintenance up and taking care of them cuz I've own Hondas for 45 years and I've never had any trouble out of them
And THIS is how dealers got the reputation! Why in the he** can't we have reputable dealers!
well, there is one constant in this mystery.
Yo Burch!! Love your vids. How can I buy a LifeOfBurch sticker? Wanna show some support for the channel!! Thanks!
Thanks so much!! If you sign up for Patreon at $11/mo or higher, you get free stickers as part of your membership. Or you can Venmo $5 to Burch422 with your address in the notes and I’ll send you 3 LifeOfBurch stickers. Whichever you prefer! Thanks for the support! 🙌🏻🙏🏻🤘🏻
@@LifeOfBurch just Venmoed! Can’t wait 🤘🏼thanks again!!
@@motogirl148 awesome, I’ll get those sent out today or tomorrow! 🤘🏻
You gotta get a honda from the 70s or 80s if you want claw hammer reliability.
I know exactly what bump that was, I fucking hate it so much. It even sets off my dash camera’s G-sensor in my truck
Daaamn for real?! That’s crazy 😳 Glad someone can attest to how gnarly it is though!
Ain't nothin a little gorilla tape and JB weld won't fix.
i love your videos......
Honda reliability is excellent overall, but the water pump issue is annoying. Try out a Suzuki sometime, I have owned several for decades and they have been flawless. Right now I have a Honda and a Yamaha...no issued whatsoever. Japanese bike are almost all reliable as a hammer.
Hah, you made me get out of bed, get dressed and off to the garage to check mine out.
Update
All is fine. :) Now back to sleep.
Hahah sorry!! A few people have said the same. It seems to be isolated to the 2021’s so far, but may be a good idea to check up when you’re doing chain maintenance or something in the future 🤘🏻