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The world is evil bc WE are evil. God gives us free will. He doesn’t want puppets that do everything he wants blindly. Would you get any joy out of creating such a world? One day, all suffering will be atoned for. In the meantime, we can pray and get stronger spiritually to face our challenges best we can.
Also don't forget when literal children and babies die due to a volcanic eruption or accident or war or famine etc. it cant be justified by it happens because we have freedom by given by god, if something good supernatural exist that we should worship he/she should stop that kind of unfair injustice or that thing proabaly doesn't exist or doesn't care.
Im a christian who's struggling through this issue. The person who made this video is saying that without the struggle we aren't as strong. I would ask him to look into the eyes of a child dying from cancer and tell them that this is making them stronger.
@hemantsarthak , think about it. If God showed Himself every few years, then everybody would know that God exists, so everyone would be kind and good. But they wouldn't be good because they wanted to; they would just be good for their own benifit .
@@hemantsarthak you have the perspective of a mere mortal, God has eternal vision. You have no idea how God will compensate victims of natural disasters, unfair situations, etc. You want to play God? See how that turns out for you. See how it turned out for civilization when the elites did it in soviet Russia.
Evil, and good, is a human construct,. Literally exists nowhere else in the universe. Just a byproduct of egotistical cavemen trying to understand the universe around them.
So was the devil. If he loves us and forgives us people will go to hell still. Morals Change over time something that 100 years ago would get you killed is encourage now a days. As culture changes over time. How will they sent messages to the people if the people killed them. It's really dumb. God could never forgive the devil for question him. So what makes he you think he will forgive a random human?
13:43 We love you too dude, in my opinion you make the most high quality Christian content on this entire website. Your videos are the perfect combination of engaging storytelling and seriously educational apologetics. You are the reason I and many others were brought to Christ by answering some of the deepest questions life has to offer and I'm so grateful for that.
Yes, it's the gospel with a parallel of an IT/AI example, my original comment was, if you can reply Then why is Heaven perfect? How can be? Would I have conciseness on the perfectly designed world? Or we would be just like water? Without knowing where we go, we just flow? I guess in the perfectly designed world there wouldn't be any art. Would we did over there? So now let's say the if I was God part... If I was God, I wouldn't be effected by time, space and matter, so if like someone, like let's say Satan, rebels against and it all the evil, or has so much power over creation, being (one of the) most high angels according to Isaiah, I think eliminating Satan, like let's say reverting time, because I'm unaffected by it, humanity would not be tempted to eat from the fruit of knowledge. We wouldn't be free to do evil because of whatever the reason. Someone please answer. Thank you. Would it be better if i would allow chat gpt to do wrong? Would I love it with? Because I USE chat gpt and not LOVE it. We learned the Holy Spirit is USING us for his glory, while He is the LOVE Himself. What????
@@brumamusic Hello Brumamusic, Although i will not answer everything i will answer one thing the better i can. God is eternal therefore he has no needs to reverse time to know the devil is up to something but, God is not what he knows, God is love, think the purest form of evergiving everlasting life that defines purity in itself. "Eliminating" your living creation because it's causing trouble is an outrageously evil way of thinking that comes from the likes of the devil. Creatures filled with pride and neverending plotting. To think "eliminating" troublemakers is an option is a lie you best not believe as it stains your spirit. As for humanity being tempted i will tell you this, God created many beings and he loves them all and to all of them he has given a voice to speak. And to all of them he has given ears to listen. The same God which has attributed to you all the things you have also has given you a key to infinite wisdom and knowledge of good. Because you are finite and can only be so much at once you will most likely find yourself in a state of confusion if the world is too much to handle. the key he has given to you is faith in him that has made you. so that you may be guided wherever you are lost not knowing what is good or bad. The moment you refuse that key, you decide in your feeble finite mind that you can testify what is good and what is bad, "forgetting" what is yours has been given to you for good measure and not for absolute measure. Pandara's box opens up and I cannot begin to enumerate every single corruption and evil from that box and hope to finish one day in this length of time. I have spoken enough and i hope these words find you well. this knowledge is in part and someday it will disappear from your sight but God is eternal. Have faith in the Lord your God.
@@GoldenJoy-b1p Love does not sit by and let children be raped. Love does not torture any other being for it's own ego ("you dishonored me"). Love does not let people starve to death. Any thinking person can see this. I don't care how slick their videos are, don't EVER create a hell, don't ever let kids be sex trafficked. Don't ever let mothers and their children starve to death.
You were able to answer lots of questions I had. I appreciate your honesty, and the work you put in every video. From the bottom of my Heart, thank you!
“I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.” (John 16:33 NIV)
John 15:19 New International Version 19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.
Hiob: My Lord, why do you torture me so? The Lord: Be quiet, I am having a dick waving contest with Satan here. DOn't worry, I will give you a new wife later.
@@tyjl3515or just invent hobbies and fulfilling activities and call it a day. Table tennis works just fine without the struggle between good and evil.
Perfection itself is a paradox. Its due to the of laws relativity and duality. But first id like to enetertain the thought, what is perfection to you? Is what you consider perfect the same as what you thought was perfect yesterday, last years, or a decade ago. Also if there is a perfect that means , to remain “perfect” would ultimately become a a prison of predictability, boredom, thus loneliness. eventually anything that last “forever eventually turns into hell. You cannot experience good, without experiencing bad, both simultaneously give each other meaning. Which is belive is the true essence of live. On a veryyyyyyy simplified term. Imagine reading a book or watching a movie where there is no adversity. Without adversity theres no triumph. And utimaly no meaning. Even better thought imagine since the day you were born anything you wanted instantly materialized into reality. Songs great right? But that’s only because we have the perspective of not being able to do that. Where if for all eternity you can have anything you ever wanted, would eventually turn to true dread , pointlessness
it wasn't the euphoric that got bored. They were euphoric. No, it was the creators who grew tired of watching it. Regardless of our programming, our slavery derives from the masters writing it. it's not the chains binding us that are responsible.
This was so good you guys! Thank you for taking the time to put together the Christian story in a way that is fresh and relevant and that I might cause people to pause and think, who would otherwise not! And the part at around 11 minutes in really got to me! Thank you Jesus for entering our world & doing what none of us could! You are the Way!
I remember I was so shocked going to a small orthodox church in a nearby village and seeing a picture , above the entrance , of three angels sitting at a round table with a cup in the center. The picture was called "Sfanta Treime" in Romanian , or the "The Holy Trinity".
Yes. I'm a Christian, but I think that resting in peace after dying is the best possible ending in my opinion, and it gives much more meaning to life to know that one day, you won't exist anymore.
Creative brainwashing. Think about this. How much suffering is too much? Well, how about when suffering becomes so great people decided to kill themselves? So keep the flu, broken legs, have suffering. But you KNOW it goes to far when millions of people simply don't want to live anymore. What lesson is that? What growth is that? If God is in charge of the limits of suffering in this world, he could have set that limit at least. We obviously have WAY too much suffering to justify here.
Comparing God to a bored creator of pre-programmed AI while not giving any Biblical background/context on the origins of evil is NOT sharing the gospel. Stuff like this is why Church attendance is dropping. Using worldly analogies to help people try to understand other-worldly concepts is not helpful for anyone's spiritual growth. Truths revealed from the God himself and the Bible itself is. 💯
- It begins creative and it ends up non-sequitur. The conclusions do not arise naturally; instead, the video jumps to conclusions. - As the intended target of the video, I am not impressed. Instead, I feel cheated. Short-changed. - I do not deny the concept of a creator, or the necessity of suffering. It's just that Christianity has a very shallow understanding of these things, compared to Hinduism and Buddhism.
i struggled with self harm when i was 16, i had nothing left, i was depressed and suicidal but then when i was on my knees crying and looking up at my ceiling in my dark room i saw the brightest light flash from behind me for a millisecond. i now realize that it was God telling me that i’m not alone.
@bee-o4f It’s a shame that you have a perspective like that not only about God, but of life itself. Good times make weak men. Weak men make hard times. While hard times make strong men. Strong men make good times. Consider the pain you face in your own life as it’s happening FOR you and not against you. If you choose the victim mentality. You indefinitely will act like one. (This was a message for someone who made a comment “if there’s a God, why does he let bad things happen.” They deleted their comment so it makes it look like I answered Matt. This message was not for Matt. I replied to him in my second comment)
@mattchadix3994 God bless you bro and I hope you continue to ask God for guidance, strength, and wisdom whenever you’re feeling lonely. Come back to these kinds of videos as they give you the input you need so God can remind you.
@Bee-o4f There will always be suffering even if we follow God but at the end it is the God who makes our pain meaningful, nobody else. This gives us hope, that believing in Him even at our darkest times isn't worthless.
@Bee-o4fBy what you said I assume you understood my point to "ok so let's cause even more pain and suffering to do something good cause that is how it works, right?" but these are two separate things. God taught us not to sin and to minimise pain so don't play a hero like that. Especially if you did that on purpose. By my previous comment I meant a situation where you are a victim, not a causer, so to somehow accept the pain, and if there is any person included, to forgive them. I don't know if I explained that well but it's really hard to write it lol. If you answear me somehow you have to wait cause i'm going to sleep :)
Also, he has to try to present it in a way where he doesn't undermine his own theology. Despite all the time, he still can't escape his own dogma. I challenge you to watch Mindshift's video response to this.
What puzzles me minus all the unnecessary suffering of innocent people is that is you are a good, moral sound person you are considered “weak”. Being a liar and bad person seems to get you ahead in life more than being unselfish and helping others. How many good people have been taken advantage of by evil people. It’s very discouraging for a good person in this world, but I won’t let it change my good nature.
Satan rules this world at the moment. Meaning people that do satans will are more likely to "get ahead" in a material aspect in this life but they will suffer the consequences in the long run. Tho in proverbs it says "The LORD will not let the godly go hungry, but he refuses to satisfy the craving of the wicked." The ones that get ahead by means of oppressing others will always have a deep unfillable void within them.
Perhaps one can consider how abused and viewed as weak the one named Jesus was while simultaneously being powerful and strong enough to transform the whole world. "The meek shall inherit the Earth."
It is very discouraging trying to be good in this world. I relate to that a lot thank you for posting this. But I think that is the ultimate test of our life, to give into material desires or to be good; and find favour with God. I don’t know I just thought of that reading your comment. Let me know what you think.
As a fiction writer, this resonates well with me. Creating worlds is something I often do, just with a pen and pad. Imagine how ineffective, boring, and stagnant storytelling would be if there were no issues, problems, or struggles within the stories that we write ourselves. The true beauty with art of writing could be attributed two, simply, great storytelling, but it also could be attributed to watching their protagonist overcome their challenges and becoming better overall Edit: For all of you who are saying that this is different, obviously. Obviously, it is different. It is very different. But that is what analogies are. It takes two different things and draw similarities. To think that I didn't think of fictional characters not being able to feel pain and suffering is beyond me. You are currently talking to someone who is going through the biggest trial of his life of 25 years. No one in the Christian realm, or at least they shouldn't be, are saying that God wants to remove all suffering. Of course, He helps us through the trials and suffering we go through, but it is very evident that He will still allow you to go through trials, even despite being a Christian. No one saying he is utilitarian or a hedonist. In fact, Inspiring Philosophy did a great video on why suffering exists that I think all of you should check out. It is very evident that suffering exists to build character. In a perfect life, with no suffering, there is no character building. There is no virtue
I don't think the fact that it's fictional or not changes anything OP just said. With no trials there is no perseverance. In any case, the world is bad because we made it that way.
@@caieerouxdder Oh no, a lot changes when your creations are actual, conscious persons. Now the responsibility for any suffering they go through falls upon you for writing the script. How many fellas in Batman’s universe say they’re grateful for the Joker and all the harm he’s caused? A more nuanced take is that the world is pretty indifferent and there are a lot of bad actors among us that make it worse for everyone else.
I love the way this man explains these lessons. First i clicked on a video where i thought he was athiest, which turned out to be a video to convince you to choose God, then i click on This video where he at first pretends this was an experiment but the whole time its the story of the world in biblical terms but explained in EVEN MORE detail. This guys smart!
Your videos about suffering helpd me out more than you can imagine. For the past 10 months every since my sister and grandma were murderd nearly every day i havent had the will to live and just want to die. Your videos helps me out more than you could imagine. Thank you bro and thanks be to God. This world is hopeless without christ and honestly its gotten to the point that i dont have hope for anything in this world except that Jesus will raise us from the dead
@@wiktorb6846 He said he found some comfort in it because he had been having relationship issues with his wayward son. He is a believer of god and the Bible already but having faith is what I think he wanted to be reassured of.
Make sure to ask him whether he would prefer living in a boring world, where his wife and children are safe from harm, while in this world, the innocent, the weak and the gullible are routinely brutalized.
@@Alexander_Kale Yea I though I might get a smart comment like this. I see how saying boring can strike a nerve with some but you can simply live a boring life if you want. You don’t necessarily need to live or procreate if you choose. That will end the perpetual cycle of human suffering. I’m not religious but my friend is and I like religious people more than I do most atheists.
Love you guys and just met you tonight. I wrecked my motorcycle and am in the hospital and I know my suffering is because of my own hubris. I thanked my loving father for not requiring my life and simply chastening me with a broken leg. I’m humbled before his throne and love him and my holy king more than ever before! I wept deeply in prayer tonight, my heart of flesh lives on.. ❤
i have always struggeled with the question of the christian theodicy and never gotten an answer could understand. i never thought of turning the question around. so thank you, you might have changed my life today
@@asdfjklo409Would you choose to have a choice between hell and heaven or would you rather not risk it and just let the only choice be heaven? The sensible choice feels like the latter.
@@lucas56sdd youd have to prove heaven is real first. if you point to one religious book or ideology then you lost , we have many of those with different interpretations of life after death, and you cant say yours over rules all because they Will say there's over rules yours, then you guys will fight and create more dumb ass suffering. besides, why do i only know about this idea of heaven by people just like me? there is something wrong there and ether your god is lazy or he is not real. i choose not real. and if he loved you he wouldn't let you fight others for the truth, or them fight you. just as i wouldn't. love me or burn= worst relationship ever
I could not imagine having to plan out these things for anyone knowing I am not perfect. I am so grateful to you and your channel for putting out this kind of content. It really helps to get the point across in a relatable and involved way! Thank you 😊
evil is creation of god coz in this scenario there cant be good ppl without bad ppl free will is a gimmick... this code saying that there should be X ammount of ppl so Y ammount of ppl goes to heaven ... there is no free will if there is a gimmick like that.
God : Quran Surah Al Balad Indeed, We have created humankind in ˹constant˺ struggle. Do they think that no one has power over them, .... Have We not given them two eyes, a tongue, and two lips; And shown him the two ways (good and evil)? /and shown them the two ways ˹of right and wrong˺? and shown them the two ways ˹of right and wrong˺? If only they had attempted the challenging path ˹of goodness instead˺! And what will make you realize what ˹attempting˺ the challenging path is? It is to free a slave, or to give food in times of famine to an orphaned relative or to a poor person in distress, and-above all-to be one of those who have faith and urge each other to perseverance and urge each other to compassion. These are the people of the right.
This is the most important and beatiful video on the internet ever and for ever. I'll share it to everyone. Everyone MUST SEE THIS. THANK YOU ❤ God bless you
What an utterly beautiful parable. I have been struggling with many of these questions, clearly God is working through you to bring this message. Thank you.
1. Boring is a weak excuse for creating a world with suffering. A triomni God don't need anything and can't be bored. 2. If heaven is without suffering, is heaven boring? 3. Jesus teach his message for a small group of people in a specific moment in history. All other human have to receive his message from other human, while it had to compete with other message from other religions. It is a stupid way of communicating. 4. If I can choose between a perfect and boring world and this imperfect world, I will 100% choose the perfect world. Isn't that world the same as heaven?
As a Christian this video has so many logical fallacies in it and makes me really angry tbh lol. Videos like this do not help to bring new people into the faith. Zero biblical context at all and borderline blaspheming God by comparing him to just a bored creator of pre-programmed AI. This is a horrible video. I might make a rebuttal video to this using actual Bible verses to back up my points, unlike this guy who didn't show any verses at all and used a weak analogy about AI.
1. God created the world simply because He is the creator. I would say suffering comes because of sins. It was the consequence that caused the suffering in this world. It was never about a boring world. 2. I would approach free will differently from the video. The Bible didn't say that God gives us free will because the world will be more interesting and we'll have a more responsible world. One thing about God is that He is love and since we are His Creation, we are also capable to Love. So in order to love, we should have the freedom to make choices. Like the ability to care for, speak lovingly or even have concerns for our loved ones. 3. Well one thing you should understand is that the message was never only for small groups of people. It was for all of us and we have the Bible today. Everything recorded through eyewitness accounts and that was the only way to record things down 2000 years ago. Another point is that, since God is all powerful, we can simply ask Him to reveal the truth to us and I believe He will do for you as He had done to me. I came from a Buddhist background and my life has changed and transformed. Matthew 7:7-8 "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives ; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened." One thing everyone should understand is that God created a perfect world. Is never imperfect to begin with. Human beings were once walked in the presence of God. We were in heaven. The first humans Adam and Eve committed sin through their disobedience. It became natural for us to do wrong rather than good. Since God is Holy and Just, we have to pay the consequences for our wrong doings and our world becomes imperfect. The good news is that there is hope for us to go to heaven and reunite with God. God gave us a gift. Jesus came and took whatever we did wrong on the cross. He paid for our punishment so we will be reunited again with God. All we have to do is to believe and trust what He has done for us on the cross. With this revelation and hope, we continue to make the right choices and can depend on God in navigating our life through praying and reading the Bible. This is a super long reply. Hope my response makes sense to you. God bless🙂
@@amandang4104 it can't be a perfect world by definition if it became imperfect later. That means that something slipped through the cracks and ruined the balance. If it were perfect nothing could slip through and it would be perfect forever.
@@alexdetrojan4534To fair to atheist, if you guys are correct and there no after life. Your existence would return to the state you were in before birth. No existence, so no concept. There is nothing that can conceive so there is nothing to conceive.
@@alexdetrojan4534Except he won't be disappointed. If you are right, this man will lose nothing for his beliefs. If he is right, then you will experience infinite eternal loss for your beliefs. Your gains on earth are nominal at best (although I would argue they are non-existant). Therefore, this man will not be disappointed* *this assumes that either Christianity or Naturalism is true. This is admittedly a false dichotomy, but I think my point stands.
@@TheLazyCowboy1 points well taken from a Christian perspective. But I would argue you do lose something for your beliefs. You will lose the full enjoyment of your one life through the constant low level angst of 'have I pleased my God? Will he judge me harshly? Am I doing everything I can to meet his standards so I ultimately do not end up in a hell.' You won the Life lottery, where billions upon billions of other beings did not. A person should live their life not in fear of a God, that although all Christians say is a 'loving god', he would in a moment caste them into eternal damnation for not meeting his standards. O.k. you say, still if all goes well, I will die and go to heaven to live in a paradise. Through reasoned thinking one should if they're honest with themselves, come to the rational conclusion that there is no heaven/paradise after death. Zero evidence of its existence. Just words written in a book(by men) alluding to what waits you after death. This 'heaven' is just a balm for your ego, from the existential dread all humans have about dying. I put forward to you that after death there is nothing but oblivion. Not an eternal darkness that one must endure forever, but just nothingness. The same nothingness that you experienced before you were born, so whats to fear? You didn't fear that before you were born... Anyways, I feel from a non Christian, rationalistic perspective, that your beliefs are indeed making you lose something. I don't expect I convinced you of anything. People who are in a cult are very difficult to persuade that they are deluded, and Christians, moslems etc are definitely trapped within a cult. I've expended more effort that I intended in this response. Enjoy your life(to the best of your ability), but don't be surprised that when you 'wake up' on the other side, there is only nothingness. 😉
So if nobody, including the engineers or an all knowing, perfect, loving, etc. God for that matter, has the ability to create "Perfect World", then how does heaven work exactly?
Simple, we are here to live our lives to show god we wanna be with him forever that simple. But I he’s then god purifies us of our sin and restores us to have communion with him hence no more sun because we literally DONT WANT to sin anymore
@@jaydennguyen-xk1yopeople chose to be this way since the time of adam and eve when they ate FROM the forbidden fruit, well the garden if eden it was perfect, cheerful, they were both sinless and child like innocent, they went against God's words and got kicked out, and the thing is this is all for a reason because from pain and evil we learn and feel like we need to get closer to the one who created us, God. Just like he said, those who chose evil will be in evil forever and those who chose good is gonna be in good, or heaven forever, people us Gods creation chose to go against him and he let them because he gave them,...or us...free will to do what we want to do ...that's up to us whether we kill someone take revenge or forgive them, hate someone because they hate you or love them, even if they don't
@@GLOWX-s9b no i did not choose to be this way i was cursed with original sin, the world i live in is controlled by the devil, and my mind can be accessed by the devil. If evil truly did have a purpose what is the purpose of torture or mass killings? To get closer to God? Yeah sure justify evil like that. God saw all the evil that would happen and he knew that a lot of it would not turn into good yet being the all powerful creator, he let it play out anyway. Evil by definition literally is the opposite of what god says he is, if evil was to get closer to god if i do evil will i get closer to god?
Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
WHERE WILL THIS COMMENT GO? I have to write this whether I want to or not. After watching several videos - It has taken me 20 minutes to stop sobbing. Not crying, sobbing. I have been calling on God for so long. Begging, pleading, bargaining, beseeching, and He in His undying love for me brought me to this channel tonight. I WAS NOT researching God this evening on TH-cam, but tonight was the night to speak to me and He did through this channel. I understand so much more than I ever understood in a lifetime of Hell on Earth. His spirit filled me with such love tonight that I was overwhelmed by it (HIM). I missed my best friend, my God, my partner, my financial advisor, my source, my strength, my hope, and having been trying to live life without Him. Until tonight. Tonight was the perfect night to expose everything I needed to know AND REMINDED of. His presence filled my heart to the point of spilling over and over and it all came down to ONE thing...LOVE. I'm back Father. Thank you IMbeggar.
@@notgonnalie1846 Fair enough to ask. This was the first video I clicked and, honestly, pretty typical stuff you hear in Church just presented differently... better. It wasn't until I started binge watching that I felt the presences of God with me, around me, and within me. It is very difficult if not impossible to describe a spiritual experience. I can do without the Hell stuff.. real or not, but it was when I was reminded of God's love for me and how He created me to be a part of His plan that I lost it. Mostly because I had been empty, dead inside and a shell as I pulled away from Him out of anger and self pity. So, it was the other videos after this gave me what I needed. Thank you for asking.
that's powerful man. It really hits different when we don't hear from Him for a minute, for reasons we can't seem to understand, and then just at the right time He responds with a revelation that rocks our world and puts all the pieces together. He knows what we need and when we're ready for it. I know heaven is rejoicing over you and cheering for you right now! I was just going to comment to encourage you, but I couldn't help but notice your handle. Are you still currently in the Tampa Bay area? My husband and I lead a small church here. If you're not currently rooted in a church community of your own, I'd love to hook you guys up to chat and see if there's any way we can help you get equipped for your walk
Man you are an amazing person. thank you so much for making all these quality videos and make it super simple so we can understand. Thank you! Keep making these videos and make sure to do it for God. ❤
This is something my friends may listen to and understand. Im going to show them this and hopefully they see what the Lord has shown me and hopefully they open themselves to his love. I want them to make it to his grace and all I can do is guide them with words and pray. Please pray for me and my friends in this journey. It is and will be a tough one. Thank you all and I hope to one day see you all in Gods Grace.
Also don't forget when literal children and babies die due to a volcanic eruption or accident or war or famine etc. it cant be justified by it happens because we have freedom by given by god, if something good supernatural exist that we should worship he/she should stop that kind of unfair injustice or that thing proabaly doesn't exist or doesn't care.
@@hemantsarthak Peace be with you Friend ❤️ He will stop all Unfairness & Injustice (Revelation 1:7-8/22:20-21). It's why he sent his Son to Save us & his Son will be the One to Judge Everyone. You still have time to be Saved & Come into the Light (John 3:16-18) ❤️✝️.
@@ELMQ Considering that God is Omniscient, he had a Reason for it. What happens now is to see how it will end "And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose" Romans 8:28 NKJV. Most of the Tribulation, God can use it for Good: Romans 5:3-5 NKJV [3] And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; [4] and perseverance, character; and character, hope. [5] Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us. ❤️✝️🕊️.
For the final question it asks from the perspective of a human living in it, but in the start when it refers to the 2 worlds would you be satisfied being the God an observer of World 1 for or for World 2?
@@abyss4996 World 1, because it would please me greatly to have produced something perfect. This would be the perfect place to incarnate, too. Do your societal duty in the morning, making your fellow humans happy, and then relax, hanging around in the afternoon, watching birds fly, frogs paddle, and the stars at night, until I fall asleep, to start the days anew. - Everything else is outright evil.
If you really want people to believe that you would GLADLY live in world where you had no free will or true freedom, and we’re nothing more than an animal, then be my guess. But everyone knows you guys are just coping to not try to confront the argument the video is presenting.
So, we have free will … but are diseases still necessary? And natural disasters? What’s the point of that? And also, what about when you reach heaven … do we then have free will revoked ?? So many unanswered questions
1. Disease and death came as a result of our falling, and such the world lost its order, as through man, sin entered the world. 2. We have free will here on earth to decide where we want to go in the afterlife, heaven or hell, God or self. In heaven, we will have free will, but we will no long be affected by sin or the will to sin, and such there will be no death or sin in new creation
@@arturliviu okay so basically ... youre saying that disease are just the ways in which death had to be manifested. hmm. thats actually a really good point, thanks. i can accept that.
@@sayntfuu You realize mornings happen because of the earths orbit around the sun, right? No one has to command the sun to rise. The earth is also not on any “foundation”, it’s floating through space. If the Bible was actually written or inspired by the being who created all of this, you’d think he would have at least described it a little more accurately
Job is one of my favorite books.. ironic that people would argue about God with you and your statement lol.. some people just won't/can't get it.. I ain't Calvinist but...
@@notanonymous3976 How will I know what is bored? Compared to what? If I lived in scenario 1 I would have no conception of it. And every other scenario takes the longest way to get back the perfection of scenario 1. Hard pass.
Why not just have people who decide to do evil placed in another world with like minded people. Allowing the good people to continue prospering while the bad people either we’d themselves out due to their nature or change due to increased context of their actions
you know whats so strange, i was just talking to myself about some of the things that make me doubt my faith sometimes and one of the things i said was the problem of evil 😭 first thing i see on youtube when i open it and this vid was uploaded around the time i said it!! God bless you youre videos are great ❤
what if the suffering had a purpose to teach so the beings you created can have even better lives for all of eternity ones they're done with the up to 100ish years in the suffering world? Suffering teaches empathy, reasoning and coping skills that can be used for eternity to better peoples lives, probably a bunch more. Think of how much better your life would be due to suffering if tomorrow everything but relationship wise and maybe power over others (if that's for you) pretty much everything would be better than what you could dream of, would you not in time learn to appreciate your previous suffering or at least reap it's goods for the rest of eternity? Wouldn't that be worth it?
@@albinhansen97 The whole logic of "Suffering teaches empathy, reasoning and coping skills" is illogical because to begin with there was nobody but God. God is considered eternal and perfect. To say "what if the suffering had a purpose" means there was a hunger/desire for fulfilling this purpose, but how can there be a hunger/desire when only God exists and it is already the most perfect entity? Only God existed and everything was already perfect bcoz God is perfect, therefore no need for anybody to lean anything as everything is God and everything is perfect. its not about whether its worth it to suffer ~100ish years, the main question is a perfect God wouldnt even desire/think about creating a universe.
@@Slushyc "Then you’d be a pretty lonely and selfish god" > Being eternal, perfect it is simply not possible for me to create something which is beyond me. Nobody exists apart from me. How can i be selfish if nothing can exist beyond me? Anything i create will be me. I cannot be lonely bcoz iam already perfect, i need nobody else, bcoz iam everything to begin with. If the idea even crossed my mind to create a universe with life, this simply means iam suffering from mental disorders like split personality, schizophrenia where under delusion i ended up thinking iam "sharing" my love with other beings. IN REALITY, THERE IS NOBODY TO SHARE ANYTHING WITH, AS IAM EVERYTHING. So, if i decide not to create the universe, it only proves iam perfect in all aspects.
@@kartik9892 Company is positive to have, and while God may be perfect I think God had to learn same as everyone else. Can you be perfect if you can't feel love for others? Lets say God created paradise and had the best time, why would God not give that experience to others as well, a person born in a good world is not a loss, it's a gain. Assuming God forgives everyone what reasons would there be not to give the experience of paradise to beings?
Your channel is one of the most helpful things I have ever encountered on my faith journey. Do you think you could do a video regarding issues of salvation? Pardon me if you already have, but it's a topic I see discussed a lot in the Christian world and I wanted to hear your thoughts since I find your channel to be a brilliant and reliable voice in Christianity ❤
So, effectively it all comes to God wanting to avoid boredom? Wanting to be amused and entertained, inspite of all the suffering here on Earth and in afterlife in hell, for those unlucky ones who will get there? How such God is not evil and cruel?
this isn't what he is saying. He is saying that God indeed loves us, but he doesn't want us to be like robots. If we were like robots and followed a "program," then our good wouldn't be true good, it would just be doing what we were told, which isn't freedom. If we didn't have freedom, then we couldn't truly love God, just be forced to, and is that really Love?
@@GodsSoldier-q4d That's exactly what he is saying at the end of the "First World" part, such world would have been boring. But ok, let's consider how you spin it - God wants to love and to be loved by somebody external. In this case he is not self-sufficient and therefore not perfect, is he? I guess then probably all the suffering indeed can be justified as inevitable evil for the God not to feel lonely, but at least it's something to be acknowledged. And then, consequentially, question arises - does such non perfect God have the moral right to judge us?
@Chumazik777 Love by nature requires an entity outside of one's self to be complete. God's inclusion of humans in this story of love is not a gap in His perfection but rather a proof of it. To go beyond your own self sufficiency and share that perfection with others, isn't that how love is made complete in any society? God is not just some rich man revelling in His wealth and abundance. He seeks to share that with others who are able to receive His love and respond to it hence the need for us to be free moral agents.
@@Chumazik777 And to answer your question on whether He has the right to judge us, I would like you to ask yourself what right does any judge have to pass judgement? If you say well there's a law we've all agreed on then ask yourself what right do other members of society just as imperfect as you are have to form a set of laws defining what is right and wrong to you? If you find yourself willing to submit to the standards of imperfect man even though you may not necessarily agree with everything that is in their law where's your issue with a morally superior God setting laws for you, His creation and judging you by them?
12:14 made me cry. Thank you, as a raised and practising Christian I never thought about it in this way. The way God did it is the best way. I may share this with my atheist friends.
I have this question all the time. This is going to be interesting to watch! So far your damn right on AI. 👍🏻 Edit: wow! You just made my biggest question in life so much easier to understand and in tht must basic, insightful and justified way possible! I couldn't have said it better myself! Good job on this one!!!❤❤
so beautifully explained. we're so fast to throw or fists to god and blame him on everything, but the truth is he wants what's best for us. Also, certain bad things can happen now that will result in much more good things later... thank you for this video @IMBeggar
I was literally thinking about this today, "how can I explain why god does what he does to a person when their mentality is 'if god is good and just then why does he allow such and such to happen/ why does he punish others?'"
@@kamikeserpentail3778 not really because the reason I found is god isn't allowing bad such and such to happen, it happens because he took a step back to give us freedom of choice. and some use that freedom to do evil and others to do good, and that's the consequence of freedom of choice. god has the power to make us do good and obey but then the lessons he wants to teach can't be learned and our love for him wouldn't be true. just remember everyone has different views and different outlooks on life and the lessons it has to offer, I'm assuming that you're a non-believer and are viewing this as one, and this is not to be rude or to sound pretentious but you have to open your heart to truly understand gods lessons and why he does what he does. cause someone can read the bible or watch people explaining in simple scenarios/analogies all they want but that doesn't mean they'll understand the message it's giving. this video may not work for you but it does for me and others and I encourage you to find another video that might explain it better/differently for you or something like that, I really recommend Cliff Whitehead he's a really good at explaining hard questions a lot better than I can in general.
I don't mean this in an offensive way, but your reasoning is biblically inaccurate. For starters, you believe God "took a step back to give us freedom of choice" but the Bible teaches that God is omniscient (1 john 3:20), and that he predestined everything before creation existed including who would and wouldnt go to heaven (Romans 8:29-30, Ephesians 1:4-5, Jeremiah 1:5). So if free will is having the ability to choice from several different options, then humanity doesn't have free will. In every situation where it seems like we have options, we can only choice to take the actions that God as pre-planned for us take, so therfore in reality we have one option, and so we have a will its just not free. Later on you said that God doesn't make people obey him because then we wouldn't learn "lessons he wants to teach" but that is implying that God is unable to teach us while making us obey him, however he is all powerful and therefore can do all things (Matthew 19:26). so it would be incorrect to say that God cant make us obey him while teaching us anything he wants because he can do all things. With that said I do see logical inconsistencys when thinking about Gods character and the existence of extrem suffering. If God wants what's best for living beings then why do unnecessary cases of suffering exist? For example if a tree falls on a deer in the woods, the deer will die a slow and very painful death, in world where an all powerful, all good God was watching wouldnt we expect him to not allow such things to happen? But indeed we live in a world with extreme suffering and if God is omniscient he's not just watching, he planned it to be this way.
@@mikeking5626 look I'm not the best at explaining that's why I said to go look at cliffs content, he explains a lot better about this than I can. I just explained the best I could cause I couldn't find the right words to explain the way I wanted to, sorry if my explanation doesn't make sense to you though.
Your first argument is incredibly weak. First of all, to feel boredom in this perfect world you describe, boredom as a response to everything being perfect is something that the engineers must have purposefully programmed the bots to feel. Secondly, heaven is exactly like you describe this first world: No evil, no suffering etc. According to your logic heaven must be boring. Unimaginably and dreadfully boring even, since it's eternal.
I agree that the boring argument is dumb. And also incorrect. The main point is of free will. To create a perfect world you must remove free will and create a dictatorship where people are NPC or make consequences so severe it would be living under terror.
Not to mention when Christ comes back and removed sin from us, and sinners from existence, we will all be "forced" back into that "boring" perfect new world He promises to remake. This video is just more proof that people need to read their Bibles and stop trying to invent explanations for things scripture already covers.
In the last three chapters of the Book of Revelation there are three groups mentioned: those in the gates, those outside of the gates who are not in the lake of fire and those outside of the gates in the lake of fire. It says that no one who sins will enter the gates but also mentions ones who enter the gates. This could be a subcategory making two more groups for a total of four groups. There will be no more suffering or evil for those in the gates, but there is definitely suffering going on with those in the lake of fire outside the gates. So for the remaining people who live outside the gates there is the implication that they may experience sin and evil. In other words: in the city of God there is no evil but there are parameters for this city implying beyond those borders there is life and evil. I would surmise just as Jesus left this city and experienced death and taking our sin, as soon as He returned to the city He was met with goodness and peace. My thoughts are we may experience similar paths in the future as ambassadors of Life and Mercy and Grace and Forgiveness and Truth.
Boring for us, not for them. You may instead ask what is the purpose of perfect world without freedom? None at all because life isn't just about experiencing pleasures. There is no pleasure without lack of it or obstacles.
Yes but if you were born in the first world you would never be you and that going through the suffering of a real life you can better understand what true paradise is
@@slitlord6790 This argument sound ridiculous. By your logic, all citizens of first world country should be sent out subsaharan Africa to endure hardship and suffering before being allowed in their respective country so that they can better understand what a paradise it is? I don't buy this bul*s*it. It also brings another questions - On what basis this so-called bot uploader decides whether a bot will be born in utter poverty (North Korea) or comfort (Any first world nation)? If the answer is random then the so called God doesn't love us equally, does it?
This video assumes that if you don't allow people to be evil and atrocities to happen, the world will be boring and everybody will act the same, which is not true. There are many societies on the smaller scale (towns and villages) with no evil and no atrocities at all. People there are happy and would certainly not complain that they don't have enough criminals or hardship in their lives. So this still makes no sense.
@@Ruzzky_Bly4t We are dealing with a very different situation on a large scale. A small village tends to be more peaceful than a metropolis. In a metropolis, we have many people with different personalities and opinions, and this great variety ends up clashing and creating prejudice and many other problems. In a small village, the people who live there know each other and practically live together, and also because of the drastically low population of the village - you can simulate this in city building games - a small village is not as much work as a large city, where many problems are created by the population constantly.
@@Jexinkink Yes, but if people would be "preprogrammed" to not have the ability to kill or seriously harm others, it wouldn't mean that everybody would act the same or that the world becomes boring. You can have freedom of opinion and have people clash verbally in debates, without resorting to atrocities and violence. Allow very minor evil, like insulting somebody in an argument, but block the extreme things. So I don't see how total freedom is the optimal solution.
@@Ruzzky_Bly4t Maybe you missed the part where people could not act against their programming and how it would basically be a giant machine. Yes, there would still be things, art, science and such but the point is it would be crazy boring and we would not be free to make choices that may be against that. People would be 1 dimensional. Yes it would be "good" and some people would prefer that but without struggle and conflict, how would we know what good and evil are and the difference? How would we grow, become better, learn, understand what love is instead of it being default? Emotions? We would just end up mindless robots is the point, even if there was no suffering and everything was taken care of. I would rather be in the world we have today than the perfect world 100% Maybe my perspective would change depending on how much I was suffering in my life which is why people turn to authoritarian rule under socialism or communism. It is the same idea but does not work because we are in the imperfect world and individual, not a hive mind like bees and ants.
What if the laws of this world could have been different? I mean, this analogy resonates with me and with many others, and I would have done exactly the same as these engineers. But God is above these earthly laws. Why didn’t He find a better way? I acknowledge that this 'better way' is human-centered, and God knows what He’s doing. But some answers would be deeply useful… I’ll be glad to ask Him one day.
Yes, this video presupposes that in this world humans must necessarily "work and survive". I am Catholic, but I always struggle with the problem of evil. and why God couldn't have made us free in a much simpler way than creating a super complex world of suffering. Ultimately, the only satisfactory answer I found it's that it's a mystery.
@@SpectrometerGlad to see somebody who is religious but recognizes that thinking in terms of what a god can do is not the same as what a human might perceive. Despite watching the video, like the person you replied to, I can't see how an omnipotent god couldn't know a way to make things better, with less suffering. One can't apply the "if you were a god, you wouldn't make the world differently" argument because you can't comprehend what a god can do in the first place. We are limited to our human experience and we can't say such things. We can comfort ourselves by believing certain things but we can't assure ourselves that the world couldn't have been differently.
@@driheart"If God was omniscient, he would have found a better way." But if God was omniscient and perfect, then he enacted the best way. God is omniscient and perfect. Therefore the way he enacted (this way) is the best way.
@@TheLazyCowboy1 God enacted the best way according to its own agenda. What's best for God may not be best for humans. The omnipotent god would know to act in everyone's best interest, but God chose to act in its own best interest.
@driheart And the standards by which God chose to act are, by definition, perfect. So what if they are "his own agenda." That agenda is perfect, according to theistic definition of perfect. My argument, which is about as simple as any argument can be, stands. Are you simply denying that God is perfect? In which case, I'm unsure what you're even trying to say.
10 Questions: 1. world 1.0 2. Absolute control + responsibility (if the intentions are good then yes. People are not good) 3. No, but it could help them. 4. From both. Why would you create the 2nd world anyway? Just because it's boring? How selfish. 5. From None. The engineers only made experiments on people with free will, and the bots are nothing more than a tool. 6. No. 7. Both. One for designing it like that, and another for choosing it. 8. There wouldn't be bots. But if you mean left alone, It would be kind of like warhammer 40,000; stuck, no advance, no hope, only war and hedonism. 9. Experimentation, boredness, curiosity, perhaps some passion. 10. By making a world with freedom and responsibility, there would be errors but no evil. People would be; Fortitude Justice, Temperance in pleasure and pain, Prudence, Faith, Hope, Charity, Self-determination, Creativity, Becoming, Overcoming, Discontent but positive (when bad things happen), Flexibility, Self-mastery, Self-confidence, Joy, Courage, in the face of fear, Liberalit with wealth and possessions, Magnificence with great wealth and possessions, Magnanimity with great honors, Proper ambition with normal honors, Truthfulness in self-expression, Gracefulness in conversation, Friendship in social conduct, Modesty in the face of shame or shamelessness, Righteous indignation in the face of injury, Chastity, Diligence, Kindness, Patience, Humility, Hopeful, Stoic, Elegant, Never saying foul words, Merciful to all, Not getting angry over an injury, Helping the poor, Suffering with the afflicted, Feeling sympathy for the miserable, Unfamiliar with rudeness, Avoiding excessive severity, Patient in the face of injury, Practicing self-discipline with pleasure, Speaking words of love to those who speak ill, Not ignoring those in need, Never envying those who prosper, Not laughing at your neighbor in the abyss, Extending your hand to those who have fallen, Never being selfish with your compassion, Reconciling those who are angry with each other, Bringing harmony among those who disagree, Rejoicing in the joy of others, Weeping with those who weep, Lifting up the fallen, Reproving sin without anger, Encouraging the weak, Turning bad into good with your kindness.
It is a sound argument on paper but do you even know if this would work? I'm certain god thought of all this already after all of you can come up with something like this god has already thought about it. And yet he still chose to make this world the way it is, which suggests that it wasn't going to work in practice.
This is absolutely incredible, really truly mind blowing. I am a christian but I didnt understand things nearly as well as I do now. Every time I click on your videos I am better for it. Thank you and god bless.
But GOD is infinitely powerful, so HE can create free-will without incorporating suffering, right? Otherwise we're putting limits on an unlimited being.
@@thechamp742 So a universe like ours with rampant suffering implies a universe where God is absent. That is certainly a view that many people have held going back to the ancient Greeks.
@InquisitiveBible suffering/evil is present when God is absent because of people's choices but when God is with you. Even though it may be hard it's not the end he will uphold and lift you up until we meet in heaven
People's choices are not responsible for earthquakes or malaria or that African worm that infects children's eyeballs, my friend. Those were a design choice, if the world is designed.
My one glaring critique of this, is that we assume that heaven is akin to world 1.0; perfect, without suffering etc. We lose our individuality once we get to heaven, our worldliness is an inherent aspect of mankind.
😂 and the cycle starts again, heaven is too boring so evil is allowed. once you reach heaven level 100 will you experience true goodness with free will and ultimate boredom
Yeah... the video should have mentioned something like... the bots retain their memories and their identity from the previous life, but are given new bodies/neural networks. This allows them to freely and willingly follow the protocol (which remains in their memories, not strictly enforced). They do not break it because they have expanded knowledge and personal experience of the consequences of breaking it. With their new fully-repaired networks, they are fully capable of avoiding wrongdoing; and with their experiences, they have no desire to do evil.
@warptens5652 Reread my comment while trying to understand it. My point is the "personal experiences." Logically, God could not have given people that when he first created them. People cannot have experience of evil without, well, experiencing evil. Thus, God gave everyone experience of evil.
God : Quran Surah Al Balad Indeed, We have created humankind in ˹constant˺ struggle. Do they think that no one has power over them, .... Have We not given them two eyes, a tongue, and two lips; And shown him the two ways (good and evil)? /and shown them the two ways ˹of right and wrong˺? and shown them the two ways ˹of right and wrong˺? If only they had attempted the challenging path ˹of goodness instead˺! And what will make you realize what ˹attempting˺ the challenging path is? It is to free a slave, or to give food in times of famine to an orphaned relative or to a poor person in distress, and-above all-to be one of those who have faith and urge each other to perseverance and urge each other to compassion. These are the people of the right.
i'd still rather be in the first world than in the second one, i'd freely give up my responsability and free will for unlimited dopamine, serotonin and whatever else! I've alredy lived my entire life being forced by everyone's choice without having to think of my own choice and thoughts, there would be no difference to me between the first world and this one, except for the fact that i'd be happy in the first one.... without doing anything... which is perfect!
2:40 Is that what YOU think? Or is that what the bot thinks? Would a blind person wish for sight in a world where no one has ever had it? Would you wish to be blind in a world where no one has ever been blind before? You can ONLY wish for something that you know, You can ONLY regret not having what you KNOW that you COULD have...
I've been struggling with this a lot recently, not so much as to why God allows suffering to happen, but rather to what reason would He allow it to happen. For the last year I've suffering through grief and heartbreak, unable to find peace no matter how hard I try, I cried out to God time and time again, just trying to make sense of all of my anguish, and I've yet to hear an answer.
If God is not against us he is for us, if God is not against us who can be? But Job, as a righteous man in the Bible underwent trials and suffering, then God blessed him afterward and gave him more than he had at first. Jesus teaches to always pray and never give up. 🙏
@@mirmirone4248 Which is ironic considering that a supposed benevolent god had to make a gamble and rob an innocent man of all of his belongings - that's not benevolent. What if he had failed the trial? Then he would have lost everything AND went to hell, all because god has a gambling problem.
@@j.d.s.8132God doesn’t allow trials He **knows** you can’t overcome. Everything we are faced with is something within our own abilities. God had to intervene for Job, not only for his sake, but to teach us a lesson in the future too.
@@j.d.s.8132God can’t really gamble when he already knows the outcome of everything. He allowed Job that tribulation knowing that He would have to intervene, and knowing that this very interaction would be written down and told for many generations.
This video got me crying at the part in which the Engineers come in a perfect embodiment... just for telling us the truth... I've seen the effort you've put on this masterpiece!! Thank you so much and God Bless you ❤
@@SawyerFinn-123 that’s not a power it’s knowledge “knowledge is power” is a lie as that implies all knowledge is power but all knowledge is not power sure some knowledge is power
i hope to return to god one day. i essenetially slowly walked away from my church after my denomination declared my major in college of biotechnology a mortal sin and I would be going to hell for it even though i need it to study medicine or dentistry and eventually would provide healthcare back to my community. I hope to become a doctor of some sort and provide back to my community even if the churches dont stand by me due to the path required by the education system. I hope god sees me and is pleased.
They're clearly wrong and they've made up nonsense. People aren't always right about theology, you need to research lots of different sides of it and come to your own conclusion.
Most denominations will have no problem with anyone going to college or becoming a doctor. Not sure which cult you were going to but don't feel bad about running away from them. Find a sound Bible believing church you can attend regularly. Never too late to return to Christ.
"is this fair" no, actually, an infinite punishment for a finite crime is infinitely unjust take 2 people (or bots) that have lived almost identical lives, making the same mistakes or mistakes on the same "level" as eachother, and at the end of their lives, one just barely qualifies to enter heaven, whilst the other had stolen a single extra wooden spoon a few years earlier and because of that, he just barely qualifies for hell the difference between living happily forever and seeing your loved ones and being in a perfect world, and suffering for eternity, burning and screaming and choking and being uncomfortable was a singular wooden spoon? Infinity is a long time, if y'all didn't know that already This shows the absurdness of trying to apply such black and white ethics to beings as complex as humans you would never say that somebody deserved eternal punishment whilst their friend lived happily forever just because this person stole a wooden spoon, and yet, this is the kind of thinking that heaven and hell encourages, it makes no sense whatsoever.
no, you forgot the part to WHO you make that crime, YES it is GOD. because God is infinite so does the punishment because we violating the infinity being.
How long does it take to kill a baby? - (maybe a few seconds) How long should they be in jail for that? (Maybe all their life? Life in prison) So an action that took a few seconds can warrant a lifetime of punishment. A mili second to a lifetime is an infinity of its own… now think of a lifetime of crime (sin) how long should that punishment be? An even longer lifetime - afterlife.
Most Christians love the idea of eternal torment. I am grateful for the ones who acknowledge that both sides can be supported by scriptures. Bot eternal torment and existence just ceasing if you are evil but not horrifically so.
Accidentally shooting himself in the foot and saying that free will actually doesn't exist, and that the choices we make largely stem from our circumstances.
This is by far a very in depth illustration of the AI world, and the world that our God created us to be. It is so amazing the storyline and how it all evolve and reveal itself at the end of the story. Which reflects what God who is the engineer of humanity design us to be. Thank you for this video such genius potrayal of the AI future as of us Humanity! So so creative!❤❤❤
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Humans and their Gods.
Why does this species cling to what they think is real?
It seems to be a scam.
The world is evil bc WE are evil. God gives us free will. He doesn’t want puppets that do everything he wants blindly. Would you get any joy out of creating such a world? One day, all suffering will be atoned for. In the meantime, we can pray and get stronger spiritually to face our challenges best we can.
Also don't forget when literal children and babies die due to a volcanic eruption or accident or war or famine etc. it cant be justified by it happens because we have freedom by given by god, if something good supernatural exist that we should worship he/she should stop that kind of unfair injustice or that thing proabaly doesn't exist or doesn't care.
Im a christian who's struggling through this issue. The person who made this video is saying that without the struggle we aren't as strong. I would ask him to look into the eyes of a child dying from cancer and tell them that this is making them stronger.
@hemantsarthak , think about it. If God showed Himself every few years, then everybody would know that God exists, so everyone would be kind and good. But they wouldn't be good because they wanted to; they would just be good for their own benifit .
@@hemantsarthak you have the perspective of a mere mortal, God has eternal vision. You have no idea how God will compensate victims of natural disasters, unfair situations, etc. You want to play God? See how that turns out for you. See how it turned out for civilization when the elites did it in soviet Russia.
He’s given us free will out of love because GOD is love. If we didn’t have free will it wouldn’t be love which is impossible, because GOD is love.
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And so did Brandon of Mindshift! Huzzah!
“Why doesn’t God destroy all evil”
Because we are evil, and he loves us
Evil, and good, is a human construct,. Literally exists nowhere else in the universe. Just a byproduct of egotistical cavemen trying to understand the universe around them.
@@direccioncinco-h7z "I have seen all the things that are done under the sun; all of them are meaningless, a chasing after the wind."
God doesn't love evil, all evil eventually passes away
Left our marks and scars for the blood of our brother and sister left on humanity's hands for better or worse
So was the devil. If he loves us and forgives us people will go to hell still. Morals Change over time something that 100 years ago would get you killed is encourage now a days. As culture changes over time. How will they sent messages to the people if the people killed them. It's really dumb. God could never forgive the devil for question him. So what makes he you think he will forgive a random human?
13:43 We love you too dude, in my opinion you make the most high quality Christian content on this entire website. Your videos are the perfect combination of engaging storytelling and seriously educational apologetics. You are the reason I and many others were brought to Christ by answering some of the deepest questions life has to offer and I'm so grateful for that.
Yes, it's the gospel with a parallel of an IT/AI example, my original comment was, if you can reply
Then why is Heaven perfect?
How can be?
Would I have conciseness on the perfectly designed world? Or we would be just like water? Without knowing where we go, we just flow? I guess in the perfectly designed world there wouldn't be any art. Would we did over there?
So now let's say the if I was God part...
If I was God, I wouldn't be effected by time, space and matter, so if like someone, like let's say Satan, rebels against and it all the evil, or has so much power over creation, being (one of the) most high angels according to Isaiah, I think eliminating Satan, like let's say reverting time, because I'm unaffected by it, humanity would not be tempted to eat from the fruit of knowledge. We wouldn't be free to do evil because of whatever the reason. Someone please answer. Thank you.
Would it be better if i would allow chat gpt to do wrong? Would I love it with? Because I USE chat gpt and not LOVE it. We learned the Holy Spirit is USING us for his glory, while He is the LOVE Himself. What????
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Yeah, he's my kind of Christian! So good 🎉
@@brumamusic Hello Brumamusic,
Although i will not answer everything i will answer one thing the better i can.
God is eternal therefore he has no needs to reverse time to know the devil is up to something but,
God is not what he knows, God is love, think the purest form of evergiving everlasting life that defines purity in itself.
"Eliminating" your living creation because it's causing trouble is an outrageously evil way of thinking that comes from the likes of the devil. Creatures filled with pride and neverending plotting. To think "eliminating" troublemakers is an option is a lie you best not believe as it stains your spirit.
As for humanity being tempted i will tell you this,
God created many beings and he loves them all and to all of them he has given a voice to speak. And to all of them he has given ears to listen.
The same God which has attributed to you all the things you have also has given you a key to infinite wisdom and knowledge of good. Because you are finite and can only be so much at once you will most likely find yourself in a state of confusion if the world is too much to handle. the key he has given to you is faith in him that has made you. so that you may be guided wherever you are lost not knowing what is good or bad. The moment you refuse that key, you decide in your feeble finite mind that you can testify what is good and what is bad, "forgetting" what is yours has been given to you for good measure and not for absolute measure.
Pandara's box opens up and I cannot begin to enumerate every single corruption and evil from that box and hope to finish one day in this length of time.
I have spoken enough and i hope these words find you well. this knowledge is in part and someday it will disappear from your sight but God is eternal.
Have faith in the Lord your God.
@@GoldenJoy-b1p Love does not sit by and let children be raped. Love does not torture any other being for it's own ego ("you dishonored me"). Love does not let people starve to death.
Any thinking person can see this. I don't care how slick their videos are, don't EVER create a hell, don't ever let kids be sex trafficked. Don't ever let mothers and their children starve to death.
You were able to answer lots of questions I had. I appreciate your honesty, and the work you put in every video.
From the bottom of my Heart, thank you!
“I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.” (John 16:33 NIV)
John 15:19
New International Version
19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.
KJV ONLY
@@theterrificnicko3080 Maybe the world doesn't hate you, it's just fed up with Christian hypocrisy, self-righteousness & their religious supremacy.
Hiob: My Lord, why do you torture me so?
The Lord: Be quiet, I am having a dick waving contest with Satan here. DOn't worry, I will give you a new wife later.
W for linking Versions in the first place
Why would a perfect world be boring? If it is boring, it is not a perfect world.
That’s why it’s not, a perfect world is one where every person has the choice to do right or wrong, but chooses right.
@@tyjl3515or just invent hobbies and fulfilling activities and call it a day. Table tennis works just fine without the struggle between good and evil.
Perfection itself is a paradox. Its due to the of laws relativity and duality. But first id like to enetertain the thought, what is perfection to you? Is what you consider perfect the same as what you thought was perfect yesterday, last years, or a decade ago. Also if there is a perfect that means , to remain “perfect” would ultimately become a a prison of predictability, boredom, thus loneliness. eventually anything that last “forever eventually turns into hell. You cannot experience good, without experiencing bad, both simultaneously give each other meaning. Which is belive is the true essence of live. On a veryyyyyyy simplified term. Imagine reading a book or watching a movie where there is no adversity. Without adversity theres no triumph. And utimaly no meaning.
Even better thought imagine since the day you were born anything you wanted instantly materialized into reality. Songs great right? But that’s only because we have the perspective of not being able to do that. Where if for all eternity you can have anything you ever wanted, would eventually turn to true dread , pointlessness
@@Djgotskillz3x3 Chaos.
That is perfection.
Real mathematical chaos, the stuff order is made out of.
The possibility storm that created reality.
it wasn't the euphoric that got bored. They were euphoric. No, it was the creators who grew tired of watching it. Regardless of our programming, our slavery derives from the masters writing it. it's not the chains binding us that are responsible.
This was so good you guys! Thank you for taking the time to put together the Christian story in a way that is fresh and relevant and that I might cause people to pause and think, who would otherwise not! And the part at around 11 minutes in really got to me! Thank you Jesus for entering our world & doing what none of us could! You are the Way!
Seriously 🎉
creepy Jesus gang stalkers ... glad i "unsubbed" from your blasphemy ...
It fails on many levels but I understand why people on the inside can't recognize those failures.
Full of fallacies though 😅
pure fallacy
I love how there are three Engineers to mirror the Trinity
(Edit: yes I affirm the Nicene creed, get over it)
I haven't realised it until reading your message!!! Thank you so so much!!! 😊🤲🕊️💛✝️
@@este1ita me eather ^^
Also makes a reference to the engineers from Alien lore.
I remember I was so shocked going to a small orthodox church in a nearby village and seeing a picture , above the entrance , of three angels sitting at a round table with a cup in the center. The picture was called "Sfanta Treime" in Romanian , or the "The Holy Trinity".
The Trinity is one being
not even a minute ago was this posted and i cant wait
This was exactly what I needed for my breakthrough. Thank you. Keep doing what you do!
The longer you live and the older you get the more you realize that boring is good.
Well said.
Yes it is perfect.
Yes. I'm a Christian, but I think that resting in peace after dying is the best possible ending in my opinion, and it gives much more meaning to life to know that one day, you won't exist anymore.
In a world without suffering, boredom wouldn't exist anyway, as boredom is a form of mild suffering
@@nessy3338 Skills issue.
I love how creatively the gospel is being shared
Creative brainwashing.
Think about this. How much suffering is too much? Well, how about when suffering becomes so great people decided to kill themselves? So keep the flu, broken legs, have suffering. But you KNOW it goes to far when millions of people simply don't want to live anymore. What lesson is that? What growth is that?
If God is in charge of the limits of suffering in this world, he could have set that limit at least. We obviously have WAY too much suffering to justify here.
Comparing God to a bored creator of pre-programmed AI while not giving any Biblical background/context on the origins of evil is NOT sharing the gospel.
Stuff like this is why Church attendance is dropping. Using worldly analogies to help people try to understand other-worldly concepts is not helpful for anyone's spiritual growth. Truths revealed from the God himself and the Bible itself is. 💯
@@GALuigi 95% American Christians know only 10% of the Bible is why I will never believe one who say's they know it 💯is Absurd.
creative ? this is bs
- It begins creative and it ends up non-sequitur. The conclusions do not arise naturally; instead, the video jumps to conclusions.
- As the intended target of the video, I am not impressed. Instead, I feel cheated. Short-changed.
- I do not deny the concept of a creator, or the necessity of suffering. It's just that Christianity has a very shallow understanding of these things, compared to Hinduism and Buddhism.
i struggled with self harm when i was 16, i had nothing left, i was depressed and suicidal but then when i was on my knees crying and looking up at my ceiling in my dark room i saw the brightest light flash from behind me for a millisecond. i now realize that it was God telling me that i’m not alone.
@bee-o4f It’s a shame that you have a perspective like that not only about God, but of life itself.
Good times make weak men. Weak men make hard times. While hard times make strong men. Strong men make good times.
Consider the pain you face in your own life as it’s happening FOR you and not against you. If you choose the victim mentality. You indefinitely will act like one.
(This was a message for someone who made a comment “if there’s a God, why does he let bad things happen.” They deleted their comment so it makes it look like I answered Matt. This message was not for Matt. I replied to him in my second comment)
@mattchadix3994 God bless you bro and I hope you continue to ask God for guidance, strength, and wisdom whenever you’re feeling lonely. Come back to these kinds of videos as they give you the input you need so God can remind you.
@Bee-o4f There will always be suffering even if we follow God but at the end it is the God who makes our pain meaningful, nobody else. This gives us hope, that believing in Him even at our darkest times isn't worthless.
@Bee-o4f
So what are you actually offering? Should we have done it?
@Bee-o4fBy what you said I assume you understood my point to "ok so let's cause even more pain and suffering to do something good cause that is how it works, right?" but these are two separate things.
God taught us not to sin and to minimise pain so don't play a hero like that. Especially if you did that on purpose.
By my previous comment I meant a situation where you are a victim, not a causer, so to somehow accept the pain, and if there is any person included, to forgive them.
I don't know if I explained that well but it's really hard to write it lol. If you answear me somehow you have to wait cause i'm going to sleep :)
This video was so powerful. On the brink of tears. You are on to something great.
No wonder why your videos take long - They're so good and so much animation to do... God bless you
Also, he has to try to present it in a way where he doesn't undermine his own theology. Despite all the time, he still can't escape his own dogma. I challenge you to watch Mindshift's video response to this.
What puzzles me minus all the unnecessary suffering of innocent people is that is you are a good, moral sound person you are considered “weak”. Being a liar and bad person seems to get you ahead in life more than being unselfish and helping others.
How many good people have been taken advantage of by evil people. It’s very discouraging for a good person in this world, but I won’t let it change my good nature.
Satan rules this world at the moment. Meaning people that do satans will are more likely to "get ahead" in a material aspect in this life but they will suffer the consequences in the long run. Tho in proverbs it says "The LORD will not let the godly go hungry, but he refuses to satisfy the craving of the wicked." The ones that get ahead by means of oppressing others will always have a deep unfillable void within them.
No one is good. Not one. All have fallen short.
Perhaps one can consider how abused and viewed as weak the one named Jesus was while simultaneously being powerful and strong enough to transform the whole world. "The meek shall inherit the Earth."
@@Liliana-of7ji Satan is only "ruling the world" because god is letting him do so, he could stop him if he wanted but he isn't for some reason.
It is very discouraging trying to be good in this world. I relate to that a lot thank you for posting this. But I think that is the ultimate test of our life, to give into material desires or to be good; and find favour with God.
I don’t know I just thought of that reading your comment. Let me know what you think.
As a fiction writer, this resonates well with me. Creating worlds is something I often do, just with a pen and pad. Imagine how ineffective, boring, and stagnant storytelling would be if there were no issues, problems, or struggles within the stories that we write ourselves. The true beauty with art of writing could be attributed two, simply, great storytelling, but it also could be attributed to watching their protagonist overcome their challenges and becoming better overall
Edit: For all of you who are saying that this is different, obviously. Obviously, it is different. It is very different. But that is what analogies are. It takes two different things and draw similarities. To think that I didn't think of fictional characters not being able to feel pain and suffering is beyond me. You are currently talking to someone who is going through the biggest trial of his life of 25 years. No one in the Christian realm, or at least they shouldn't be, are saying that God wants to remove all suffering. Of course, He helps us through the trials and suffering we go through, but it is very evident that He will still allow you to go through trials, even despite being a Christian. No one saying he is utilitarian or a hedonist. In fact, Inspiring Philosophy did a great video on why suffering exists that I think all of you should check out. It is very evident that suffering exists to build character. In a perfect life, with no suffering, there is no character building. There is no virtue
This is totally different.
What if you knew your characters were sentient persons with the capacity for pain and suffering?
I don't think the fact that it's fictional or not changes anything OP just said. With no trials there is no perseverance. In any case, the world is bad because we made it that way.
@@caieerouxdder Oh no, a lot changes when your creations are actual, conscious persons. Now the responsibility for any suffering they go through falls upon you for writing the script. How many fellas in Batman’s universe say they’re grateful for the Joker and all the harm he’s caused?
A more nuanced take is that the world is pretty indifferent and there are a lot of bad actors among us that make it worse for everyone else.
@Bee-o4f I don't think you understand how little cancer is compared to what the world wants to do to us
I love the way this man explains these lessons. First i clicked on a video where i thought he was athiest, which turned out to be a video to convince you to choose God, then i click on This video where he at first pretends this was an experiment but the whole time its the story of the world in biblical terms but explained in EVEN MORE detail. This guys smart!
Lord have mercy on me
on us, my brother
amen.
Amen as well. He has forgiven me time and time again. That which I do not deserve.
Amen
AMEN
Your videos about suffering helpd me out more than you can imagine. For the past 10 months every since my sister and grandma were murderd nearly every day i havent had the will to live and just want to die. Your videos helps me out more than you could imagine. Thank you bro and thanks be to God. This world is hopeless without christ and honestly its gotten to the point that i dont have hope for anything in this world except that Jesus will raise us from the dead
My coworker came up with this exact same scenario today! Now I’m going to show him this vid.🙏
how did it go?
Depending on your coworker it's not going to go well as the world being "boring" is the worst explanation you can give for the suffering in life.
@@wiktorb6846 He said he found some comfort in it because he had been having relationship issues with his wayward son. He is a believer of god and the Bible already but having faith is what I think he wanted to be reassured of.
Make sure to ask him whether he would prefer living in a boring world, where his wife and children are safe from harm, while in this world, the innocent, the weak and the gullible are routinely brutalized.
@@Alexander_Kale Yea I though I might get a smart comment like this. I see how saying boring can strike a nerve with some but you can simply live a boring life if you want. You don’t necessarily need to live or procreate if you choose. That will end the perpetual cycle of human suffering. I’m not religious but my friend is and I like religious people more than I do most atheists.
This video must be engagement heaven, I'm trying to refrain from arguing with everyone but it's so tempting.
Love you guys and just met you tonight. I wrecked my motorcycle and am in the hospital and I know my suffering is because of my own hubris.
I thanked my loving father for not requiring my life and simply chastening me with a broken leg.
I’m humbled before his throne and love him and my holy king more than ever before! I wept deeply in prayer tonight, my heart of flesh lives on.. ❤
Nice to have you back :)
This channel is literally so beautiful, so encouraging, thank you Imbeggar, for the service you make
Bro, You've wonderfully ascribed the requirefd Fundamental TRUTH told differently in our Sanatana scriptures!!
i have always struggeled with the question of the christian theodicy and never gotten an answer could understand. i never thought of turning the question around. so thank you, you might have changed my life today
Now you don't have to worry about suffering people anymore, awesome.
@joecheffo5942 thats in my opinion the wrong takeaway. We are given a free choice especially that we can choose to worry about and help others
@@asdfjklo409Would you choose to have a choice between hell and heaven or would you rather not risk it and just let the only choice be heaven? The sensible choice feels like the latter.
If you want your life to change again i advice you to watch mindshift's response to this video
@@lucas56sdd youd have to prove heaven is real first. if you point to one religious book or ideology then you lost , we have many of those with different interpretations of life after death, and you cant say yours over rules all because they Will say there's over rules yours, then you guys will fight and create more dumb ass suffering. besides, why do i only know about this idea of heaven by people just like me? there is something wrong there and ether your god is lazy or he is not real. i choose not real. and if he loved you he wouldn't let you fight others for the truth, or them fight you. just as i wouldn't. love me or burn= worst relationship ever
I could not imagine having to plan out these things for anyone knowing I am not perfect. I am so grateful to you and your channel for putting out this kind of content. It really helps to get the point across in a relatable and involved way! Thank you 😊
In other words, Evil is the creation of free will. But not just evil. Freewill also created heroes, warriors, greatness, and saints.
evil is creation of god coz in this scenario there cant be good ppl without bad ppl free will is a gimmick... this code saying that there should be X ammount of ppl so Y ammount of ppl goes to heaven ... there is no free will if there is a gimmick like that.
And yet there's no god, only the one that's made up in your head.
We wouldn't need heroes, warriors, or greatness in a world without free will, where everyone would be a saint.
God : Quran Surah Al Balad
Indeed, We have created humankind in ˹constant˺ struggle.
Do they think that no one has power over them,
....
Have We not given them two eyes,
a tongue, and two lips;
And shown him the two ways (good and evil)? /and shown them the two ways ˹of right and wrong˺?
and shown them the two ways ˹of right and wrong˺?
If only they had attempted the challenging path ˹of goodness instead˺!
And what will make you realize what ˹attempting˺ the challenging path is?
It is to free a slave,
or to give food in times of famine
to an orphaned relative
or to a poor person in distress,
and-above all-to be one of those who have faith and urge each other to perseverance and urge each other to compassion.
These are the people of the right.
Free will is a fallacy. Dopamine machine go brrrrr.
wow this is a really good video, nice thanks!
and for anyone reading this
Jesus Loves You!
This is the most important and beatiful video on the internet ever and for ever.
I'll share it to everyone.
Everyone MUST SEE THIS.
THANK YOU ❤
God bless you
IMBeggar thank you so much for kickstarting the reason why I love to talk about love so much‼️‼️😭
A parent who builds a torture basement for most of his children isn't a loving parent.
What an utterly beautiful parable. I have been struggling with many of these questions, clearly God is working through you to bring this message. Thank you.
It's utterly...flawed.
And we love you, imbeggar ❤
1. Boring is a weak excuse for creating a world with suffering. A triomni God don't need anything and can't be bored.
2. If heaven is without suffering, is heaven boring?
3. Jesus teach his message for a small group of people in a specific moment in history. All other human have to receive his message from other human, while it had to compete with other message from other religions. It is a stupid way of communicating.
4. If I can choose between a perfect and boring world and this imperfect world, I will 100% choose the perfect world. Isn't that world the same as heaven?
As a Christian this video has so many logical fallacies in it and makes me really angry tbh lol. Videos like this do not help to bring new people into the faith. Zero biblical context at all and borderline blaspheming God by comparing him to just a bored creator of pre-programmed AI. This is a horrible video. I might make a rebuttal video to this using actual Bible verses to back up my points, unlike this guy who didn't show any verses at all and used a weak analogy about AI.
@@GALuigi So what would you say is the reason for suffering in this world, why not heaven now?
@@GALuigi Well said. As an atheist this is a very unbiblical theodicy.
1. God created the world simply because He is the creator. I would say suffering comes because of sins. It was the consequence that caused the suffering in this world. It was never about a boring world.
2. I would approach free will differently from the video. The Bible didn't say that God gives us free will because the world will be more interesting and we'll have a more responsible world. One thing about God is that He is love and since we are His Creation, we are also capable to Love. So in order to love, we should have the freedom to make choices. Like the ability to care for, speak lovingly or even have concerns for our loved ones.
3. Well one thing you should understand is that the message was never only for small groups of people. It was for all of us and we have the Bible today. Everything recorded through eyewitness accounts and that was the only way to record things down 2000 years ago. Another point is that, since God is all powerful, we can simply ask Him to reveal the truth to us and I believe He will do for you as He had done to me. I came from a Buddhist background and my life has changed and transformed.
Matthew 7:7-8
"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives ; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened."
One thing everyone should understand is that God created a perfect world. Is never imperfect to begin with. Human beings were once walked in the presence of God. We were in heaven. The first humans Adam and Eve committed sin through their disobedience. It became natural for us to do wrong rather than good. Since God is Holy and Just, we have to pay the consequences for our wrong doings and our world becomes imperfect.
The good news is that there is hope for us to go to heaven and reunite with God. God gave us a gift. Jesus came and took whatever we did wrong on the cross. He paid for our punishment so we will be reunited again with God.
All we have to do is to believe and trust what He has done for us on the cross. With this revelation and hope, we continue to make the right choices and can depend on God in navigating our life through praying and reading the Bible.
This is a super long reply. Hope my response makes sense to you. God bless🙂
@@amandang4104 it can't be a perfect world by definition if it became imperfect later. That means that something slipped through the cracks and ruined the balance. If it were perfect nothing could slip through and it would be perfect forever.
Romans 8:18
The pain that you’re been felling can’t compare to the joy that is coming.
😂 boy, are you going to be disappointed when you die and wake up to...nothing! 😅
@@alexdetrojan4534To fair to atheist, if you guys are correct and there no after life. Your existence would return to the state you were in before birth. No existence, so no concept. There is nothing that can conceive so there is nothing to conceive.
@@alexdetrojan4534Except he won't be disappointed.
If you are right, this man will lose nothing for his beliefs.
If he is right, then you will experience infinite eternal loss for your beliefs. Your gains on earth are nominal at best (although I would argue they are non-existant).
Therefore, this man will not be disappointed*
*this assumes that either Christianity or Naturalism is true. This is admittedly a false dichotomy, but I think my point stands.
@@TheLazyCowboy1 points well taken from a Christian perspective. But I would argue you do lose something for your beliefs. You will lose the full enjoyment of your one life through the constant low level angst of 'have I pleased my God? Will he judge me harshly? Am I doing everything I can to meet his standards so I ultimately do not end up in a hell.' You won the Life lottery, where billions upon billions of other beings did not. A person should live their life not in fear of a God, that although all Christians say is a 'loving god', he would in a moment caste them into eternal damnation for not meeting his standards. O.k. you say, still if all goes well, I will die and go to heaven to live in a paradise. Through reasoned thinking one should if they're honest with themselves, come to the rational conclusion that there is no heaven/paradise after death. Zero evidence of its existence. Just words written in a book(by men) alluding to what waits you after death. This 'heaven' is just a balm for your ego, from the existential dread all humans have about dying. I put forward to you that after death there is nothing but oblivion. Not an eternal darkness that one must endure forever, but just nothingness. The same nothingness that you experienced before you were born, so whats to fear? You didn't fear that before you were born...
Anyways, I feel from a non Christian, rationalistic perspective, that your beliefs are indeed making you lose something. I don't expect I convinced you of anything. People who are in a cult are very difficult to persuade that they are deluded, and Christians, moslems etc are definitely trapped within a cult.
I've expended more effort that I intended in this response. Enjoy your life(to the best of your ability), but don't be surprised that when you 'wake up' on the other side, there is only nothingness. 😉
@@TheLazyCowboy1 You both could wind up in Muslim hell so quiet down.
Skepticism is the only honest position.
So if nobody, including the engineers or an all knowing, perfect, loving, etc. God for that matter, has the ability to create "Perfect World", then how does heaven work exactly?
You just brought up an amazing point, if heaven is a place without sin yet everyone is happy and has free will why cant earth be the same?
Simple, we are here to live our lives to show god we wanna be with him forever that simple. But I he’s then god purifies us of our sin and restores us to have communion with him hence no more sun because we literally DONT WANT to sin anymore
@@jaydennguyen-xk1yopeople chose to be this way since the time of adam and eve when they ate FROM the forbidden fruit, well the garden if eden it was perfect, cheerful, they were both sinless and child like innocent, they went against God's words and got kicked out, and the thing is this is all for a reason because from pain and evil we learn and feel like we need to get closer to the one who created us, God.
Just like he said, those who chose evil will be in evil forever and those who chose good is gonna be in good, or heaven forever, people us Gods creation chose to go against him and he let them because he gave them,...or us...free will to do what we want to do ...that's up to us whether we kill someone take revenge or forgive them, hate someone because they hate you or love them, even if they don't
@@GLOWX-s9b no i did not choose to be this way i was cursed with original sin, the world i live in is controlled by the devil, and my mind can be accessed by the devil. If evil truly did have a purpose what is the purpose of torture or mass killings? To get closer to God? Yeah sure justify evil like that. God saw all the evil that would happen and he knew that a lot of it would not turn into good yet being the all powerful creator, he let it play out anyway. Evil by definition literally is the opposite of what god says he is, if evil was to get closer to god if i do evil will i get closer to god?
Earth is like a special forces selection process. Thats how heaven is made.
oh man this was amazingly good i cant believe i never found your channel before
Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
Amen.
In Jesus' name Amen 🙏
you wrote this yourself or is this a quote?
@@wiktorb6846it’s from the second letter of St Paul to the church in Corinth!
2 Corinthians 12:7-10
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WHERE WILL THIS COMMENT GO? I have to write this whether I want to or not. After watching several videos - It has taken me 20 minutes to stop sobbing. Not crying, sobbing. I have been calling on God for so long. Begging, pleading, bargaining, beseeching, and He in His undying love for me brought me to this channel tonight. I WAS NOT researching God this evening on TH-cam, but tonight was the night to speak to me and He did through this channel. I understand so much more than I ever understood in a lifetime of Hell on Earth. His spirit filled me with such love tonight that I was overwhelmed by it (HIM). I missed my best friend, my God, my partner, my financial advisor, my source, my strength, my hope, and having been trying to live life without Him. Until tonight. Tonight was the perfect night to expose everything I needed to know AND REMINDED of. His presence filled my heart to the point of spilling over and over and it all came down to ONE thing...LOVE. I'm back Father. Thank you IMbeggar.
Amen 🙏 🙏❤️
Good for you if true, seriously!
But I'd like to ask: what specific part of this wicked distortion of God's Word was so touching for you?
@@notgonnalie1846 Fair enough to ask. This was the first video I clicked and, honestly, pretty typical stuff you hear in Church just presented differently... better. It wasn't until I started binge watching that I felt the presences of God with me, around me, and within me. It is very difficult if not impossible to describe a spiritual experience. I can do without the Hell stuff.. real or not, but it was when I was reminded of God's love for me and how He created me to be a part of His plan that I lost it. Mostly because I had been empty, dead inside and a shell as I pulled away from Him out of anger and self pity. So, it was the other videos after this gave me what I needed. Thank you for asking.
@@notgonnalie1846 Why do you say wicked distortion? I mean, I understand that it isn't true exactly to the book - but it's an analogy.
that's powerful man. It really hits different when we don't hear from Him for a minute, for reasons we can't seem to understand, and then just at the right time He responds with a revelation that rocks our world and puts all the pieces together. He knows what we need and when we're ready for it. I know heaven is rejoicing over you and cheering for you right now!
I was just going to comment to encourage you, but I couldn't help but notice your handle. Are you still currently in the Tampa Bay area? My husband and I lead a small church here. If you're not currently rooted in a church community of your own, I'd love to hook you guys up to chat and see if there's any way we can help you get equipped for your walk
The goat is back🤙🏼🤙🏼
Man you are an amazing person. thank you so much for making all these quality videos and make it super simple so we can understand. Thank you! Keep making these videos and make sure to do it for God. ❤
Finally he posted!
Seriously 🎉
ImBeggar posted let's go
This channel, Impact Video Ministries and Cross Examined are my favorite christian youtube channels.
These videos have a really good quality
Cool metaphor bro. Very well done!
Perfect timing thank you 🙏🏻✝️
This is something my friends may listen to and understand. Im going to show them this and hopefully they see what the Lord has shown me and hopefully they open themselves to his love. I want them to make it to his grace and all I can do is guide them with words and pray. Please pray for me and my friends in this journey. It is and will be a tough one. Thank you all and I hope to one day see you all in Gods Grace.
Also don't forget when literal children and babies die due to a volcanic eruption or accident or war or famine etc. it cant be justified by it happens because we have freedom by given by god, if something good supernatural exist that we should worship he/she should stop that kind of unfair injustice or that thing proabaly doesn't exist or doesn't care.
@@hemantsarthak
Peace be with you Friend ❤️
He will stop all Unfairness & Injustice
(Revelation 1:7-8/22:20-21).
It's why he sent his Son to Save us & his Son will be the One to Judge Everyone. You still have time to be Saved & Come into the Light (John 3:16-18) ❤️✝️.
@@ELMQ
Considering that God is Omniscient, he had a Reason for it. What happens now is to see how it will end "And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose"
Romans 8:28 NKJV.
Most of the Tribulation, God can use it for Good: Romans 5:3-5 NKJV
[3] And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; [4] and perseverance, character; and character, hope. [5] Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.
❤️✝️🕊️.
@@ELMQ
But I didn't, I gave an Answer, then gave a Positive Outcome.
@@ELMQ
I think it's more that you just didn't like The Answer, rather, than Not answering it.
NOO way you actually posted
🤔World 1.0 sounds completely desireable, I'd pick boringly perfect 10 times out of 10, thank you.
Yeah his logic is flawed to cope
Yeaaah, these people are saying the perfect world is boring and sh*t, man how do they know that? it seems so f*cking cool to me
For the final question it asks from the perspective of a human living in it, but in the start when it refers to the 2 worlds would you be satisfied being the God an observer of World 1 for or for World 2?
@@abyss4996 World 1, because it would please me greatly to have produced something perfect. This would be the perfect place to incarnate, too. Do your societal duty in the morning, making your fellow humans happy, and then relax, hanging around in the afternoon, watching birds fly, frogs paddle, and the stars at night, until I fall asleep, to start the days anew. - Everything else is outright evil.
If you really want people to believe that you would GLADLY live in world where you had no free will or true freedom, and we’re nothing more than an animal, then be my guess. But everyone knows you guys are just coping to not try to confront the argument the video is presenting.
So, we have free will … but are diseases still necessary? And natural disasters? What’s the point of that? And also, what about when you reach heaven … do we then have free will revoked ??
So many unanswered questions
1. Disease and death came as a result of our falling, and such the world lost its order, as through man, sin entered the world.
2. We have free will here on earth to decide where we want to go in the afterlife, heaven or hell, God or self. In heaven, we will have free will, but we will no long be affected by sin or the will to sin, and such there will be no death or sin in new creation
@@cobalt618 sin entered the world … but there’s no explanation for why disease needed to enter as well.
@@seeyoubestiesin created death
Death is tied to everything else (famine, pestilence, war, etc.)
Therefore bc of sin there is disease
@@arturliviu okay so basically ... youre saying that disease are just the ways in which death had to be manifested. hmm. thats actually a really good point, thanks. i can accept that.
@@arturliviu No, god created death because he feared Adam and Eve becoming gods
I was not there when the foundations were laid down, I have not commanded the morning every day since. I am just grateful to be here.
Yeah but if you were there you'd probably want to give some feedback right?
@@sayntfuu You realize mornings happen because of the earths orbit around the sun, right? No one has to command the sun to rise. The earth is also not on any “foundation”, it’s floating through space. If the Bible was actually written or inspired by the being who created all of this, you’d think he would have at least described it a little more accurately
@elilane8627 and the design of the earth orbiting around the sun that makes our entire planet habitable comes from what? It all points to a mind...
Job is one of my favorite books.. ironic that people would argue about God with you and your statement lol.. some people just won't/can't get it.. I ain't Calvinist but...
Good. Keep your head down like the dumb little slave you are, *_goyim._* Be grateful to the demon YHWH.
I wouldn't have done it at all.
The only winning move is not to play and regardless of who, what, or why the bots will never be engineers.
but if yoy dont play you will be bored
@@notanonymous3976 How will I know what is bored? Compared to what? If I lived in scenario 1 I would have no conception of it. And every other scenario takes the longest way to get back the perfection of scenario 1. Hard pass.
Why not just have people who decide to do evil placed in another world with like minded people. Allowing the good people to continue prospering while the bad people either we’d themselves out due to their nature or change due to increased context of their actions
@@DAYSEVENOVGG So Heaven and Hell? I Think that's the plan as is.
that’s pretty smart ngl
As usual, your videos are the best and always help us get some knowledge and maturity. Keep Up!
you know whats so strange, i was just talking to myself about some of the things that make me doubt my faith sometimes and one of the things i said was the problem of evil 😭 first thing i see on youtube when i open it and this vid was uploaded around the time i said it!! God bless you youre videos are great ❤
We love you too IMBeggar! I love the whole analogy for this video! Very helpful! ❤️✝️
If i was a perfect God, i wouldnt even think of creating a universe, let alone universe where beings suffer.
Then you’d be a pretty lonely and selfish god
what if the suffering had a purpose to teach so the beings you created can have even better lives for all of eternity ones they're done with the up to 100ish years in the suffering world? Suffering teaches empathy, reasoning and coping skills that can be used for eternity to better peoples lives, probably a bunch more. Think of how much better your life would be due to suffering if tomorrow everything but relationship wise and maybe power over others (if that's for you) pretty much everything would be better than what you could dream of, would you not in time learn to appreciate your previous suffering or at least reap it's goods for the rest of eternity? Wouldn't that be worth it?
@@albinhansen97 The whole logic of "Suffering teaches empathy, reasoning and coping skills" is illogical because to begin with there was nobody but God. God is considered eternal and perfect. To say "what if the suffering had a purpose" means there was a hunger/desire for fulfilling this purpose, but how can there be a hunger/desire when only God exists and it is already the most perfect entity?
Only God existed and everything was already perfect bcoz God is perfect, therefore no need for anybody to lean anything as everything is God and everything is perfect.
its not about whether its worth it to suffer ~100ish years, the main question is a perfect God wouldnt even desire/think about creating a universe.
@@Slushyc
"Then you’d be a pretty lonely and selfish god"
> Being eternal, perfect it is simply not possible for me to create something which is beyond me. Nobody exists apart from me. How can i be selfish if nothing can exist beyond me? Anything i create will be me. I cannot be lonely bcoz iam already perfect, i need nobody else, bcoz iam everything to begin with.
If the idea even crossed my mind to create a universe with life, this simply means iam suffering from mental disorders like split personality, schizophrenia where under delusion i ended up thinking iam "sharing" my love with other beings. IN REALITY, THERE IS NOBODY TO SHARE ANYTHING WITH, AS IAM EVERYTHING.
So, if i decide not to create the universe, it only proves iam perfect in all aspects.
@@kartik9892 Company is positive to have, and while God may be perfect I think God had to learn same as everyone else.
Can you be perfect if you can't feel love for others? Lets say God created paradise and had the best time, why would God not give that experience to others as well, a person born in a good world is not a loss, it's a gain.
Assuming God forgives everyone what reasons would there be not to give the experience of paradise to beings?
Your channel is one of the most helpful things I have ever encountered on my faith journey.
Do you think you could do a video regarding issues of salvation? Pardon me if you already have, but it's a topic I see discussed a lot in the Christian world and I wanted to hear your thoughts since I find your channel to be a brilliant and reliable voice in Christianity
❤
So, effectively it all comes to God wanting to avoid boredom? Wanting to be amused and entertained, inspite of all the suffering here on Earth and in afterlife in hell, for those unlucky ones who will get there? How such God is not evil and cruel?
this isn't what he is saying. He is saying that God indeed loves us, but he doesn't want us to be like robots. If we were like robots and followed a "program," then our good wouldn't be true good, it would just be doing what we were told, which isn't freedom. If we didn't have freedom, then we couldn't truly love God, just be forced to, and is that really Love?
@@GodsSoldier-q4d That's exactly what he is saying at the end of the "First World" part, such world would have been boring. But ok, let's consider how you spin it - God wants to love and to be loved by somebody external. In this case he is not self-sufficient and therefore not perfect, is he? I guess then probably all the suffering indeed can be justified as inevitable evil for the God not to feel lonely, but at least it's something to be acknowledged. And then, consequentially, question arises - does such non perfect God have the moral right to judge us?
@Chumazik777 Love by nature requires an entity outside of one's self to be complete. God's inclusion of humans in this story of love is not a gap in His perfection but rather a proof of it. To go beyond your own self sufficiency and share that perfection with others, isn't that how love is made complete in any society? God is not just some rich man revelling in His wealth and abundance. He seeks to share that with others who are able to receive His love and respond to it hence the need for us to be free moral agents.
@@Chumazik777 And to answer your question on whether He has the right to judge us, I would like you to ask yourself what right does any judge have to pass judgement? If you say well there's a law we've all agreed on then ask yourself what right do other members of society just as imperfect as you are have to form a set of laws defining what is right and wrong to you? If you find yourself willing to submit to the standards of imperfect man even though you may not necessarily agree with everything that is in their law where's your issue with a morally superior God setting laws for you, His creation and judging you by them?
@@GodsSoldier-q4d God is selfish.
12:14 made me cry. Thank you, as a raised and practising Christian I never thought about it in this way. The way God did it is the best way. I may share this with my atheist friends.
Your editing gets 10X better each video, I'm speechless every single time
This was gorgeously made
Lord Jesus Christ Have Mercy On Me A Sinner 🙏
🙏☦
If it helps you cope then.... ok 👍
I have this question all the time. This is going to be interesting to watch! So far your damn right on AI. 👍🏻
Edit: wow! You just made my biggest question in life so much easier to understand and in tht must basic, insightful and justified way possible! I couldn't have said it better myself! Good job on this one!!!❤❤
so beautifully explained. we're so fast to throw or fists to god and blame him on everything, but the truth is he wants what's best for us. Also, certain bad things can happen now that will result in much more good things later...
thank you for this video @IMBeggar
0:19. He ( and I ) appreciate that , thank you very much!
I was literally thinking about this today, "how can I explain why god does what he does to a person when their mentality is 'if god is good and just then why does he allow such and such to happen/ why does he punish others?'"
You can't.
Because they're right.
This video is so flawed in its premise.
@@kamikeserpentail3778 not really because the reason I found is god isn't allowing bad such and such to happen, it happens because he took a step back to give us freedom of choice. and some use that freedom to do evil and others to do good, and that's the consequence of freedom of choice. god has the power to make us do good and obey but then the lessons he wants to teach can't be learned and our love for him wouldn't be true.
just remember everyone has different views and different outlooks on life and the lessons it has to offer, I'm assuming that you're a non-believer and are viewing this as one, and this is not to be rude or to sound pretentious but you have to open your heart to truly understand gods lessons and why he does what he does. cause someone can read the bible or watch people explaining in simple scenarios/analogies all they want but that doesn't mean they'll understand the message it's giving. this video may not work for you but it does for me and others and I encourage you to find another video that might explain it better/differently for you or something like that, I really recommend Cliff Whitehead he's a really good at explaining hard questions a lot better than I can in general.
I don't mean this in an offensive way, but your reasoning is biblically inaccurate. For starters, you believe God "took a step back to give us freedom of choice" but the Bible teaches that God is omniscient (1 john 3:20), and that he predestined everything before creation existed including who would and wouldnt go to heaven (Romans 8:29-30, Ephesians 1:4-5, Jeremiah 1:5). So if free will is having the ability to choice from several different options, then humanity doesn't have free will. In every situation where it seems like we have options, we can only choice to take the actions that God as pre-planned for us take, so therfore in reality we have one option, and so we have a will its just not free.
Later on you said that God doesn't make people obey him because then we wouldn't learn "lessons he wants to teach" but that is implying that God is unable to teach us while making us obey him, however he is all powerful and therefore can do all things (Matthew 19:26). so it would be incorrect to say that God cant make us obey him while teaching us anything he wants because he can do all things.
With that said I do see logical inconsistencys when thinking about Gods character and the existence of extrem suffering. If God wants what's best for living beings then why do unnecessary cases of suffering exist? For example if a tree falls on a deer in the woods, the deer will die a slow and very painful death, in world where an all powerful, all good God was watching wouldnt we expect him to not allow such things to happen? But indeed we live in a world with extreme suffering and if God is omniscient he's not just watching, he planned it to be this way.
@@mikeking5626 look I'm not the best at explaining that's why I said to go look at cliffs content, he explains a lot better about this than I can. I just explained the best I could cause I couldn't find the right words to explain the way I wanted to, sorry if my explanation doesn't make sense to you though.
Your first argument is incredibly weak. First of all, to feel boredom in this perfect world you describe, boredom as a response to everything being perfect is something that the engineers must have purposefully programmed the bots to feel. Secondly, heaven is exactly like you describe this first world: No evil, no suffering etc. According to your logic heaven must be boring. Unimaginably and dreadfully boring even, since it's eternal.
I agree that the boring argument is dumb. And also incorrect. The main point is of free will. To create a perfect world you must remove free will and create a dictatorship where people are NPC or make consequences so severe it would be living under terror.
Not to mention when Christ comes back and removed sin from us, and sinners from existence, we will all be "forced" back into that "boring" perfect new world He promises to remake. This video is just more proof that people need to read their Bibles and stop trying to invent explanations for things scripture already covers.
In the last three chapters of the Book of Revelation there are three groups mentioned: those in the gates, those outside of the gates who are not in the lake of fire and those outside of the gates in the lake of fire.
It says that no one who sins will enter the gates but also mentions ones who enter the gates. This could be a subcategory making two more groups for a total of four groups.
There will be no more suffering or evil for those in the gates, but there is definitely suffering going on with those in the lake of fire outside the gates. So for the remaining people who live outside the gates there is the implication that they may experience sin and evil.
In other words: in the city of God there is no evil but there are parameters for this city implying beyond those borders there is life and evil. I would surmise just as Jesus left this city and experienced death and taking our sin, as soon as He returned to the city He was met with goodness and peace.
My thoughts are we may experience similar paths in the future as ambassadors of Life and Mercy and Grace and Forgiveness and Truth.
Boring for us, not for them. You may instead ask what is the purpose of perfect world without freedom? None at all because life isn't just about experiencing pleasures. There is no pleasure without lack of it or obstacles.
Maybe instead of seeing it as boring for the ones within it and instead boring for the one who created it 🤷🏽♀️
Your reward for choosing good in world 2.0 is getting sent to world 1.0, which we already established as being lame and boring. How perfect!
Yes but if you were born in the first world you would never be you and that going through the suffering of a real life you can better understand what true paradise is
@@slitlord6790 This argument sound ridiculous. By your logic, all citizens of first world country should be sent out subsaharan Africa to endure hardship and suffering before being allowed in their respective country so that they can better understand what a paradise it is? I don't buy this bul*s*it.
It also brings another questions - On what basis this so-called bot uploader decides whether a bot will be born in utter poverty (North Korea) or comfort (Any first world nation)? If the answer is random then the so called God doesn't love us equally, does it?
WHAT A GREAT TAKE ON THIS GREAT JOB
Ok THIS is my mind on Jesus. Hallelujah. Very profound,
1:05 Trinity.
Everything about this needs to be heard.
A TH-camr whose never made a bad video
Precisely, everyone always ask “if god, why evil” but they always are so neglectful to see that this was the best option
This video assumes that if you don't allow people to be evil and atrocities to happen, the world will be boring and everybody will act the same, which is not true. There are many societies on the smaller scale (towns and villages) with no evil and no atrocities at all. People there are happy and would certainly not complain that they don't have enough criminals or hardship in their lives. So this still makes no sense.
@@Ruzzky_Bly4t We are dealing with a very different situation on a large scale. A small village tends to be more peaceful than a metropolis. In a metropolis, we have many people with different personalities and opinions, and this great variety ends up clashing and creating prejudice and many other problems. In a small village, the people who live there know each other and practically live together, and also because of the drastically low population of the village - you can simulate this in city building games - a small village is not as much work as a large city, where many problems are created by the population constantly.
@@Jexinkink Yes, but if people would be "preprogrammed" to not have the ability to kill or seriously harm others, it wouldn't mean that everybody would act the same or that the world becomes boring. You can have freedom of opinion and have people clash verbally in debates, without resorting to atrocities and violence. Allow very minor evil, like insulting somebody in an argument, but block the extreme things. So I don't see how total freedom is the optimal solution.
Not really for the people that suffer. Explains why people who have it hard are more likely to turn to authoritarian rule under socialism
@@Ruzzky_Bly4t Maybe you missed the part where people could not act against their programming and how it would basically be a giant machine.
Yes, there would still be things, art, science and such but the point is it would be crazy boring and we would not be free to make choices that may be against that.
People would be 1 dimensional.
Yes it would be "good" and some people would prefer that but without struggle and conflict, how would we know what good and evil are and the difference? How would we grow, become better, learn, understand what love is instead of it being default? Emotions?
We would just end up mindless robots is the point, even if there was no suffering and everything was taken care of.
I would rather be in the world we have today than the perfect world 100%
Maybe my perspective would change depending on how much I was suffering in my life which is why people turn to authoritarian rule under socialism or communism. It is the same idea but does not work because we are in the imperfect world and individual, not a hive mind like bees and ants.
This was brilliant
What if the laws of this world could have been different? I mean, this analogy resonates with me and with many others, and I would have done exactly the same as these engineers. But God is above these earthly laws. Why didn’t He find a better way? I acknowledge that this 'better way' is human-centered, and God knows what He’s doing. But some answers would be deeply useful… I’ll be glad to ask Him one day.
Yes, this video presupposes that in this world humans must necessarily "work and survive". I am Catholic, but I always struggle with the problem of evil. and why God couldn't have made us free in a much simpler way than creating a super complex world of suffering. Ultimately, the only satisfactory answer I found it's that it's a mystery.
@@SpectrometerGlad to see somebody who is religious but recognizes that thinking in terms of what a god can do is not the same as what a human might perceive. Despite watching the video, like the person you replied to, I can't see how an omnipotent god couldn't know a way to make things better, with less suffering. One can't apply the "if you were a god, you wouldn't make the world differently" argument because you can't comprehend what a god can do in the first place. We are limited to our human experience and we can't say such things. We can comfort ourselves by believing certain things but we can't assure ourselves that the world couldn't have been differently.
@@driheart"If God was omniscient, he would have found a better way."
But if God was omniscient and perfect, then he enacted the best way.
God is omniscient and perfect.
Therefore the way he enacted (this way) is the best way.
@@TheLazyCowboy1 God enacted the best way according to its own agenda.
What's best for God may not be best for humans.
The omnipotent god would know to act in everyone's best interest, but God chose to act in its own best interest.
@driheart And the standards by which God chose to act are, by definition, perfect. So what if they are "his own agenda." That agenda is perfect, according to theistic definition of perfect.
My argument, which is about as simple as any argument can be, stands. Are you simply denying that God is perfect? In which case, I'm unsure what you're even trying to say.
10 Questions:
1. world 1.0
2. Absolute control + responsibility (if the intentions are good then yes. People are not good)
3. No, but it could help them.
4. From both. Why would you create the 2nd world anyway? Just because it's boring? How selfish.
5. From None. The engineers only made experiments on people with free will, and the bots are nothing more than a tool.
6. No.
7. Both. One for designing it like that, and another for choosing it.
8. There wouldn't be bots. But if you mean left alone, It would be kind of like warhammer 40,000; stuck, no advance, no hope, only war and hedonism.
9. Experimentation, boredness, curiosity, perhaps some passion.
10. By making a world with freedom and responsibility, there would be errors but no evil. People would be; Fortitude Justice, Temperance in pleasure and pain, Prudence, Faith, Hope, Charity, Self-determination, Creativity, Becoming, Overcoming, Discontent but positive (when bad things happen), Flexibility, Self-mastery, Self-confidence, Joy, Courage, in the face of fear, Liberalit with wealth and possessions, Magnificence with great wealth and possessions, Magnanimity with great honors, Proper ambition with normal honors, Truthfulness in self-expression, Gracefulness in conversation, Friendship in social conduct, Modesty in the face of shame or shamelessness, Righteous indignation in the face of injury, Chastity, Diligence, Kindness, Patience, Humility, Hopeful, Stoic, Elegant, Never saying foul words, Merciful to all, Not getting angry over an injury, Helping the poor, Suffering with the afflicted, Feeling sympathy for the miserable, Unfamiliar with rudeness, Avoiding excessive severity, Patient in the face of injury, Practicing self-discipline with pleasure, Speaking words of love to those who speak ill, Not ignoring those in need, Never envying those who prosper, Not laughing at your neighbor in the abyss, Extending your hand to those who have fallen, Never being selfish with your compassion, Reconciling those who are angry with each other, Bringing harmony among those who disagree, Rejoicing in the joy of others, Weeping with those who weep, Lifting up the fallen, Reproving sin without anger, Encouraging the weak, Turning bad into good with your kindness.
It is a sound argument on paper but do you even know if this would work? I'm certain god thought of all this already after all of you can come up with something like this god has already thought about it. And yet he still chose to make this world the way it is, which suggests that it wasn't going to work in practice.
@@thescatspreader I know. But that's why it's a mistery why this world is like this.
@@pasalasaga i suppose
@@thescatspreaderhe's god he can just make it work
@@kittens0010 there are a lot of factors that play into something like this. It's not that simple
been waiting for you to post!! you explain things so well. thank you so much.
This is absolutely incredible, really truly mind blowing. I am a christian but I didnt understand things nearly as well as I do now. Every time I click on your videos I am better for it. Thank you and god bless.
But GOD is infinitely powerful, so HE can create free-will without incorporating suffering, right? Otherwise we're putting limits on an unlimited being.
Yeah, the message of this video is basically that God is incapable of creating good universes because they're too boring.
Without God there is suffering it's his absence
@@thechamp742 So a universe like ours with rampant suffering implies a universe where God is absent. That is certainly a view that many people have held going back to the ancient Greeks.
@InquisitiveBible suffering/evil is present when God is absent because of people's choices but when God is with you. Even though it may be hard it's not the end he will uphold and lift you up until we meet in heaven
People's choices are not responsible for earthquakes or malaria or that African worm that infects children's eyeballs, my friend. Those were a design choice, if the world is designed.
My one glaring critique of this, is that we assume that heaven is akin to world 1.0; perfect, without suffering etc. We lose our individuality once we get to heaven, our worldliness is an inherent aspect of mankind.
The angels that rebelled are a good example of this.
😂 and the cycle starts again, heaven is too boring so evil is allowed. once you reach heaven level 100 will you experience true goodness with free will and ultimate boredom
Yeah... the video should have mentioned something like... the bots retain their memories and their identity from the previous life, but are given new bodies/neural networks. This allows them to freely and willingly follow the protocol (which remains in their memories, not strictly enforced). They do not break it because they have expanded knowledge and personal experience of the consequences of breaking it. With their new fully-repaired networks, they are fully capable of avoiding wrongdoing; and with their experiences, they have no desire to do evil.
@@TheLazyCowboy1 god could create them with the "new bodies/neural networks" in the first place
you can't make excuses for an omnipotent being
@warptens5652 Reread my comment while trying to understand it. My point is the "personal experiences." Logically, God could not have given people that when he first created them. People cannot have experience of evil without, well, experiencing evil. Thus, God gave everyone experience of evil.
1:05 the great AI engineers. So great they turn CSS to LLM like water to wine.
God : Quran Surah Al Balad
Indeed, We have created humankind in ˹constant˺ struggle.
Do they think that no one has power over them,
....
Have We not given them two eyes,
a tongue, and two lips;
And shown him the two ways (good and evil)? /and shown them the two ways ˹of right and wrong˺?
and shown them the two ways ˹of right and wrong˺?
If only they had attempted the challenging path ˹of goodness instead˺!
And what will make you realize what ˹attempting˺ the challenging path is?
It is to free a slave,
or to give food in times of famine
to an orphaned relative
or to a poor person in distress,
and-above all-to be one of those who have faith and urge each other to perseverance and urge each other to compassion.
These are the people of the right.
this video is one of the best video conseps i have even seen. This is great. It makes me think, i like that.
This is a masterpiece! I am happy you are back🔥🙌 May God bless you, in Jesus name, Amen🙏✝️
i'd still rather be in the first world than in the second one, i'd freely give up my responsability and free will for unlimited dopamine, serotonin and whatever else!
I've alredy lived my entire life being forced by everyone's choice without having to think of my own choice and thoughts, there would be no difference to me between the first world and this one, except for the fact that i'd be happy in the first one.... without doing anything... which is perfect!
Heaven is going to be exceedingly boring according to this guy.
Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't heaven be the 1.0 world according to this logic?
I dream to create a game of medieval simulation with kingdoms, caravans and so on. I appreciate this video too much! Please more 🙏
2:40 Is that what YOU think? Or is that what the bot thinks? Would a blind person wish for sight in a world where no one has ever had it? Would you wish to be blind in a world where no one has ever been blind before? You can ONLY wish for something that you know, You can ONLY regret not having what you KNOW that you COULD have...
I've been struggling with this a lot recently, not so much as to why God allows suffering to happen, but rather to what reason would He allow it to happen.
For the last year I've suffering through grief and heartbreak, unable to find peace no matter how hard I try, I cried out to God time and time again, just trying to make sense of all of my anguish, and I've yet to hear an answer.
If God is not against us he is for us, if God is not against us who can be? But Job, as a righteous man in the Bible underwent trials and suffering, then God blessed him afterward and gave him more than he had at first. Jesus teaches to always pray and never give up. 🙏
@@mirmirone4248 Which is ironic considering that a supposed benevolent god had to make a gamble and rob an innocent man of all of his belongings - that's not benevolent.
What if he had failed the trial? Then he would have lost everything AND went to hell, all because god has a gambling problem.
@@j.d.s.8132Explain a little further please by what do you mean God has a gambling problem?
@@j.d.s.8132God doesn’t allow trials He **knows** you can’t overcome. Everything we are faced with is something within our own abilities. God had to intervene for Job, not only for his sake, but to teach us a lesson in the future too.
@@j.d.s.8132God can’t really gamble when he already knows the outcome of everything. He allowed Job that tribulation knowing that He would have to intervene, and knowing that this very interaction would be written down and told for many generations.
This video got me crying at the part in which the Engineers come in a perfect embodiment... just for telling us the truth...
I've seen the effort you've put on this masterpiece!! Thank you so much and God Bless you ❤
Wow..God bless you for this
i cried watchint this.. this is a perfect example of explaination. this is art. this is love. God is so beautiful
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"is it really good, if you're only doing what you're programmed to do" dang...
13:17 i would give everyone a small super power nothing big
Epic
I think we have
but we have to unlock
and it's very hard
thats what gifts of the Holy Spirit are. I've been given the gift of word of knowledge, except its not a super power, its the holy spirit guiding you
@@SawyerFinn-123 that’s not a power it’s knowledge “knowledge is power” is a lie as that implies all knowledge is power but all knowledge is not power sure some knowledge is power
@@WhatdoyoucalablindgermanAnosee what's bro getting to:
If you don't get it,im talking about nothing
I like how you did this video it's well put together
i hope to return to god one day. i essenetially slowly walked away from my church after my denomination declared my major in college of biotechnology a mortal sin and I would be going to hell for it even though i need it to study medicine or dentistry and eventually would provide healthcare back to my community. I hope to become a doctor of some sort and provide back to my community even if the churches dont stand by me due to the path required by the education system. I hope god sees me and is pleased.
What denomination??
@@closiewoo5658 catholicism
They're clearly wrong and they've made up nonsense. People aren't always right about theology, you need to research lots of different sides of it and come to your own conclusion.
Don't let the words of imperfect humans get between you and God.
Most denominations will have no problem with anyone going to college or becoming a doctor. Not sure which cult you were going to but don't feel bad about running away from them. Find a sound Bible believing church you can attend regularly. Never too late to return to Christ.
"is this fair"
no, actually, an infinite punishment for a finite crime is infinitely unjust
take 2 people (or bots) that have lived almost identical lives, making the same mistakes or mistakes on the same "level" as eachother, and at the end of their lives, one just barely qualifies to enter heaven, whilst the other had stolen a single extra wooden spoon a few years earlier and because of that, he just barely qualifies for hell
the difference between living happily forever and seeing your loved ones and being in a perfect world,
and suffering for eternity, burning and screaming and choking and being uncomfortable
was a singular wooden spoon?
Infinity is a long time, if y'all didn't know that already
This shows the absurdness of trying to apply such black and white ethics to beings as complex as humans
you would never say that somebody deserved eternal punishment whilst their friend lived happily forever just because this person stole a wooden spoon, and yet, this is the kind of thinking that heaven and hell encourages,
it makes no sense whatsoever.
no, you forgot the part to WHO you make that crime, YES it is GOD. because God is infinite so does the punishment because we violating the infinity being.
How long does it take to kill a baby? - (maybe a few seconds)
How long should they be in jail for that?
(Maybe all their life? Life in prison)
So an action that took a few seconds can warrant a lifetime of punishment. A mili second to a lifetime is an infinity of its own… now think of a lifetime of crime (sin) how long should that punishment be? An even longer lifetime - afterlife.
Most Christians love the idea of eternal torment. I am grateful for the ones who acknowledge that both sides can be supported by scriptures. Bot eternal torment and existence just ceasing if you are evil but not horrifically so.
@@Lalones__ a lifetime is nothing compared to infinity, what you have said makes no sense
@@AveryBound-k4k so if it takes 3 mins to commit the crime the punishment should be 3 mins also? Yes or no
6:47 "to change that 1 choice, they had to change the 1000s of choices that lead to that choice"
no they don't, wtf are you talking about
Accidentally shooting himself in the foot and saying that free will actually doesn't exist, and that the choices we make largely stem from our circumstances.
@@adriani9432 It's fractally dumb! 🤪
This is by far a very in depth illustration of the AI world, and the world that our God created us to be. It is so amazing the storyline and how it all evolve and reveal itself at the end of the story. Which reflects what God who is the engineer of humanity design us to be. Thank you for this video such genius potrayal of the AI future as of us Humanity! So so creative!❤❤❤