The Neurodivergent Gaze

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  • The Neurodivergent Gaze has propped up as an interesting concept within the Autistic community, and like the male vs female gaze, it is surrounded by controversy and subjectivity...
    Well, today we are diving into The Autistic Gaze, and postulating exactly what that may look like if such a thing exists!
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  • @DJ_Black_Tourmaline
    @DJ_Black_Tourmaline 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    i have found when i tried to dress "normal" people seemed to think i was a weird normal person but now that i just wear what i want people seem to treat me like a normal weird person.

    • @ChristopherDwiggins
      @ChristopherDwiggins 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@DJ_Black_Tourmaline yea. This is the best way to explain it.

    • @shawnyvillaintawny3549
      @shawnyvillaintawny3549 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DJ_Black_Tourmaline ’normal’ people - neurotypical are weird to me to .. they all dress the same ask their ‘evil friends’ for allowance what to say do wear they can’t go anywhere alone they can’t laugh loud whiteout be embarrassed
      I feel sorry sometime for them I wear what I want say do wat I want go to movies restaurants other things I wanna do alone and never emberessed ever . Relearn . Too bad I get hated for that that’s why I’m alone . Sad the square manipulation strike so hard that people actually believe being free is wrong beaing a clone in slave community is right . Take care sorry bad spelling my phone is smashed by an little emotional outbreak

    • @Somewhereintime7
      @Somewhereintime7 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@DJ_Black_Tourmaline are you wearing the hat 🧢, or is the hat wearing you ?

    • @DJ_Black_Tourmaline
      @DJ_Black_Tourmaline 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Somewhereintime7 beanie life

    • @PathofTotality888
      @PathofTotality888 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The hat is wearing me lmao I can’t not have it on 😂

  • @tcrowley
    @tcrowley 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    It gradually dawned on me that folks were going to dislike me and/or blow misunderstandings way out of proportion, regardless of how I dress or act. If folks are going to dislike me no matter what, then why waste effort trying to impress them or make them more comfortable? Way I see it, if I'm going to spend most of my life sitting in a room by myself, then I may as well BE myself.

  • @marycooney303
    @marycooney303 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    I just received my official autism diagnosis. Seven hours of testing and interviews to tell me what I already knew thanks to you and othe content creators, ( you know the worldwide gang.) Thanks for all of your insight and the intelligent conversations you put out there in the Autiverse. Have a great weekend 😊

    • @misspat7555
      @misspat7555 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I have no doubt my formal diagnosis was significantly due to content creators like Thomas sharing the lived autistic experience online. In bubbles like this, it may seem that a solid understanding of autism is at least likely in professionals, when it is actually quite rare, even in childhood-diagnosed autistics! 😬

    • @marycooney303
      @marycooney303 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@misspat7555 I think the understanding of autism, even among professionals has only just begun. I was fortunate to find the neuro-psychologist I did. She was worth the wait. I finally have the answer to all the questions I've had all my life about myself. Guess I'm not an alien after all. ☺ 👾

    • @CambriaFreesia8.0
      @CambriaFreesia8.0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm about to get tested soonish gang ..Mom was ...so seems likely lol

  • @micheals1992
    @micheals1992 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Non-conformist always makes me think of the south park episode with where Stan wants to join the goths and they say to be a non-conformist he needs to wear the same clothes and listen to the same music as them. 😂

    • @micheals1992
      @micheals1992 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is being a punk rocker with flowers in your hair non-conformist to the culture you're a part of? 🤣

    • @cardboardbox191
      @cardboardbox191 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe it happens alot it depends if someone can't conform or won't. If they can't conform they'll probably conform fast when they can.

  • @Monkai_Monkai
    @Monkai_Monkai 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    i can confirm i am one of the neurodivergent gays

  • @Nami-dq3ox
    @Nami-dq3ox 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I hate getting compliments on my clothes. If someone compliments my clothes, I usually tell them a fact about it like "I got it from an op-shop" or "It's made by slave kids".

    • @LindaH69
      @LindaH69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I don't like being complimented but I have learned to say one word only, Thank you.

    • @MIOLAZARUS
      @MIOLAZARUS 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love clothing but I do say things like that slave comment too😂

    • @micheals1992
      @micheals1992 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MIOLAZARUS I have a tie dye shirt from primark that says "Equality" on it and every time I look at it I just imagine people working is awful conditions stamping "Equality" on shirts.

    • @IdeaGrazer
      @IdeaGrazer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@micheals1992 You could paint a big black line across the word "Equality". It's your shirt and you can do what you want with it. Cheers!

    • @IdeaGrazer
      @IdeaGrazer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Perhaps a little bit intense. 🤷

  • @BreeeYT
    @BreeeYT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    I spot animals around me way quicker than anyone else :) does that count as part of our gaze? (Realizes that I took it too literally early on in the video lol)

    • @hgriff14
      @hgriff14 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      i thought the same thing. none of the slang makes any sense to me

    • @ThomasHenley
      @ThomasHenley  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Maybe! I think a lot of these gazes are just as legitimate as other so why not 😂

  • @scottgardener
    @scottgardener 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Movie mimicry-so there is actually a word for my emulating Star Trek characters as points of reference? Thank you for this bit of knowledge!

  • @sonjam8898
    @sonjam8898 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Being diagnosed recently at age 52. I have found your videos to be helpful to learning all of the new terminology. As well understanding why I have always felt off from everyone else. I have hidden a great deal of things that have brought me joy, because of ridicule and shaming from family and peers. Everyday I am trying to become more of myself. Not just my cloth. Most of all decorating my home in the way that makes me feel at home. I think this is all part of my (unmasking). If I am using the term correctly. I appreciate your openness. Thank you

  • @MWear-x8t
    @MWear-x8t 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Comfort first. Then ease of getting ready in the morning. I wear lots of black because I just want to get dressed without thinking about co-ordinating anything. Black leggings with a black tank top in the summer and a sun dress over top. Thicker black leggings a black thermal long sleeve and a sundress over top in the winter, maybe a cardigan. This outfit pretty much everyday. I am sure some people think I am only changing the dress (sometimes a skirt), but I have lots of pairs of the same comfy leggings and lots of the same comfy shirts.

  • @spark1128
    @spark1128 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sometimes I’ll find a video about autism that perfectly describes why I do what I do. To some degree it makes me feel less lonely, but also kinda make me feel troubled about whether I truly chose something or if I just happened to gravitate towards it because I am autistic. This is one of those videos

  • @moonhowler13
    @moonhowler13 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    lol i never had this realization until now. One day i decided to start wearing pink in HS and had someone try to make fun of me because "only girls wear pink." By this point in my school life I had dealt with so much bullying it didn't phase me anymore and I responded with "thanks for noticing my new outfit" and went on with my day. I wore that shirt every week for the rest of my HS life just to spite that dude. Makes so much more sense now that I know about PDA.

  • @croozerdog
    @croozerdog 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I did "autistic fashion" before I had my diagnosis. having a different or weird look makes communicating waaaay easier. I want people to not expect me to be a regular joe in conversation even before I knew why

  • @evarose7789
    @evarose7789 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It's a bit like how I dress like a indierock chick with a retro twist, I work in aged care and have bright coloured hair, wear bright coloured linen pants and coloured shirts... my clients love the colours 😊❤

  • @stephenie44
    @stephenie44 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    A had an ND friend growing up that LOVED Naruto. He always ran with his arms stretch out behind him. I think we just gravitate towards what we like and don’t care if other people think it’s weird.

  • @IdeaGrazer
    @IdeaGrazer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Concerning clothes, I wear what I like to wear and usually that includes comfortable (e.g. Neon orange turtleneck shirt). When it comes to the "gaze", I have had people ask me if something was wrong when I was paying attention to what they were saying and a couple of people have expressed uneasiness around me. Strangely, others seem to trust me with personal property when I am a complete stranger to them. I have given up figuring out what the heck goes on. It takes way too much energy and I don't want to break my brain.

  • @thuggie1
    @thuggie1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I try not to judge people

  • @jarmoliebrand2005
    @jarmoliebrand2005 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really relate to the nonconformist thing. It’s not a very conscious decision/set of decisions, but I never like mainstream things because they’re mainstream. I only like more mainstream things because I like genuinely like them.

  • @bronwynlennox1240
    @bronwynlennox1240 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think you articulated these concepts particularly well. It all rings true to my motivations and internal experience

    • @ThomasHenley
      @ThomasHenley  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I’m really glad! :D

  • @Yipper64
    @Yipper64 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    So I *would* gravitate towards more visually stimulating clothing but I also just *kind of dont care* so I tent to just wear what I happen to have.
    Ive generally not chosen my own clothes.
    I do definitely have some amount of "face blindness" though if that is what that is I think "face blindness" is a bit of a misnomer, to be specific i'd call it face recognition overgeneralization.
    Or something similar. Basically its not that I cant see faces, its that I cant automatically seem to tell the difference between similar faces.

  • @jordanlehn
    @jordanlehn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One of my favorite videos from you! I related to many things you mentioned. 🙂

    • @ThomasHenley
      @ThomasHenley  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm so glad! 🤘🏻

  • @t.f.3228
    @t.f.3228 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    yeah. it really pisses people off… i get accused of mad dogging… but im like… just trying to figure out whats going on over there…

  • @MIOLAZARUS
    @MIOLAZARUS 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I used to only wear black clothes. Still my favorite but now I have ventured out into color too. I have struggled with finding comfortable clothes. Fabric content is so important it seems ❤
    When you feel like a freak you dress like a freak😂 Im like that.
    I got my tattoos for my own sake and actually feel uncomfortable that other people ask about them. I didn’t realize it would be a conversation thing until I got them.

  • @bes03c
    @bes03c 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am 39 like to wear video game tshirts and cargo shorts when I am not at work. Occasionally I mix in some cartoon/anime themed shirts for variety.

  • @marycooney303
    @marycooney303 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I have a tendency to wear dark colors, as well.😊

    • @ThomasHenley
      @ThomasHenley  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Woop woop 🙌🏻

    • @Girlsplaybass
      @Girlsplaybass 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same. Morticia Adams is my spirit animal or I wear bright green 💚 PS my hair is 3 different reds so pretty bright

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Grounded earthly colours. idk blue often.

  • @lindseywong9667
    @lindseywong9667 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I listened to thought spots video and disagreed with it very strongly. Everyone has there own fashion preferences. Some neurodivergent people might find very colorful clothing overstimulating.

  • @ooKetch22oo
    @ooKetch22oo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I like bright shoes. I like wearing shoes that aren’t black or white sneakers, I’d rather have yellow, or red or blue. I also like seeing others with cool and unique shoes.
    As far as the rest of my fashion, it’s mostly comfort and texture based. Colors vary, but I do skew towards blues, greys and blacks.

  • @jarmoliebrand2005
    @jarmoliebrand2005 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t see myself as someone who dresses extravagantly, nor plainly. I kind of wear what I want and quite often people like some of the things I wear. Especially some clothes my parents initially bought for my older brother. But my brother never wore them. I have this sort of denim jacket, which is pretty short (it doesn’t cover the whole torso) and looks a bit ruffled, but in a cool way. And there’s this other jacket with wooden sleeves I can only wear when it’s really cold, not just because it’s a warm piece of clothing, but also because the wooden sleeves would be really, really itchy without wearing a long sleeved shirt under it. I also have these shorts with a sort of flowery pattern. And I have pink shirts. There’s nothing non-masculine/feminine about them. They just look nice. And I have this shirt my brother gifted me last year, when he had hiked in Wales. He gave me this short with the Welsh flag on it and Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch (I copy pasted it because of laziness/wanting to stay sane) is wrapped around it.
    I also like certain accessories. To me, they’re best when they have memories attached to them. I have this nice leather armband from Cyprus. Or this denim cap from Leipzig. I like them, because I’ve been to those places and have memories attached to them.
    I don’t have much (wearable) merch of the franchises I like though. I do have two Star Wars shirts. But that’s about it. Disney is not exactly making Star Wars any better.

  • @marshalt0201
    @marshalt0201 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    5:30 I personally really like the more detailed clothes like steampunk or gothic

  • @danickmetaluna2600
    @danickmetaluna2600 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I continuously found myself into weird situations because of my gaze, that can be very fixed on someone if what he/she's talking about is interesting to me. As I'm quite pretty, men & even certain women tend to think I'm sexually attracted to them when I'm not, & I gotta say it caused me troubles, many troubles. I guess you helped realize why my sense of fashion has always been "out there" up to the point of ridicule, that doesn't cause me any problem at all. I guess I don't care how I look & that's for the best, however people can see me. At 58Yo I'm so used to it I really DGAF.

  • @andfar97
    @andfar97 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am 50 years old and am only recently diagnosed with autism. When I was a teenager (in 1980's) I dressed as a goth because I wanted to externalise my differences. So I hung around goth clubs and had many goth friends and I thought we were all dressing goth for the same reasons (to express our differences). But years later I was talking with one of my old friends and I was shocked to hear that he did not dress that way to be different. He said that he (and others) dressed goth so that they could form a group where they were all the same. He said that he never felt any different (even from non-goths) and that he just chose to be "in with" a certain group of people and that he could have chosen any other group instead! So people may appear to do the same things for the same reasons (but sometimes the reasons are almost opposites)

  • @CambriaFreesia8.0
    @CambriaFreesia8.0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im a Dark Woman. BLACK IS A PROTECTIVE Shade! Representative of Strong Physical Presence.

  • @catherinejames2734
    @catherinejames2734 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’ve always been drawn to dressing quite differently. Definitely not to stand out or be noticed, more because it’s a creative exercise for me. I hate boring clothes, well, not on other people, just myself. I do hate wearing bright colours, feel like that’s too much. Love unusual clothes, I’ve made my own for most of my life. I do have to be careful about staring at people though, it can be really misunderstood 😂

    • @ThomasHenley
      @ThomasHenley  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love this! It’s a form of creative expression for me too :)

  • @CambriaFreesia8.0
    @CambriaFreesia8.0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Greetings Fellow Earthlings 🎉

  • @Canelemon768
    @Canelemon768 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yay I’m here for the part 3 🥳

  • @kyleethekelt
    @kyleethekelt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The externalisation of difference isn't limited to people who are neurodivergent. I had a friend whom I met when she was getting to mental health peer support. Considering it unfair that her difference was hidden, she would wear tee-shirts saying things like 'Do not Disturb; disturbed already'. As a blind person (now awaiting autism assessment), that was a light-bulb moment which helped teach me that destigmatisation can happen when you celebrate who you are including - not despite - your differences. I think it's a shame we seem to be becoming drabber in our dress these days. There's no dresing up for the theatre or opera or ballet any more and I think that's sad. I, personally, still do if I can get away with it (i.e. if I can get my sighted sister to quit warning me that most people won't be as dressed up as I). I think that learning to be our best selves - whoever we are - not only promotes our self esteem but helps to destigmatise by creating conversation. Good work.

  • @wtspman
    @wtspman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Less than 4 minutes in and I have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re using the word “gaze”, but from the context it sounds like you mean “appearance”.

    • @okuno54
      @okuno54 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ikr, every description of "male gaze" I've seen talks about how men present women in media, not about how women present themselves in life
      (I haven't seen any of this person's work before, so that failure of media literacy filled me with not-hope enough that I won't even stick around for the rest)

    • @username46100
      @username46100 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah! I think that this is a newer buzz word/phrase with younger folks? I've recently come across the "male gaze", "female gaze", but from the contexts, I still don't really know what they are talking about, lol.
      Gaze used to only be something like if someone is gazing (looking/staring) at something or nothing. But the current "gaze" seems different, and I don't quite get it. Skibidi! 🙃

    • @IdeaGrazer
      @IdeaGrazer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@okuno54 Too bad!

  • @mrsinfjudith
    @mrsinfjudith 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You have a soothing voice.

  • @ShadeCandle
    @ShadeCandle 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ohh, so interesting. I didn't know the face blindness was an autistic thing. I relate so strongly to that, being drawn and attracted to people with striking, sharp and unusual features, and then not even recognizing more average faces, haha. Like you say, it's almost a value judgement, like the person themselves must be more interesting and virtuous cause of their funky face. Of course clothes too, but they're more legitimately representative of a person's personality, of course.

  • @justinwebb3117
    @justinwebb3117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Sentient Rainbow" is my new call sign, fyi everyone. 🤘🌈

  • @musiqtee
    @musiqtee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My observation is that the “gaze narrative” emerges from the broader naturalised individualism of our time.
    As the normative path is becoming narrower due to economy, sociology, anthropology etc., we define an increasing number of individuals into a complex venn-diagram of “out-groups”.
    An example is how the DSM or ICD manuals grow over the same time, another is how more individuals under 40 don’t seem to “adapt” to given imperatives. And no, “they” [rather, we] can’t ALL be increasingly “ill”, right?
    I posit that we have increasing empirical knowledge - but seemingly a decreasing agency to *act* on that knowledge. This describes an ontological dichotomy, what we sometimes call cognitive dissonance.
    It isn’t all cognitive if it’s also experiential, existential and intuitive as well. We are in a very different place whenever any divergence is an abnormality - or trending towards that state of being.
    Take care out there… 😊

    • @tdesq.2463
      @tdesq.2463 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Would I be correct in presuming that you have strong interest in Modern European Philosophy? .. like Descartes to Kant range? Rationalists, Empiricists ... with a splash of semi-formal logic.
      Nice little piece of Writing. I appreciate the effort.
      🎼TD

    • @musiqtee
      @musiqtee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tdesq.2463 Thanks (I guess), but I tend to fall into the _very_ not-yet-formalized meta-modernist rabbit hole, with a sprinkle of dialectics and historical materialism (as tools, less as an ideology).
      Hopefully, a critique of pure reductionism void of preexisting holistic boundaries (like ecology, ontological derivatives from it) - whatever we externalize, and how modernity naturalizes this state of being and doing.
      That probably didn’t help much… 😅

    • @tdesq.2463
      @tdesq.2463 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@musiqtee Delightful! Thanks for that. Now my brain hurts. 🌋

    • @musiqtee
      @musiqtee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tdesq.2463 Philosophy in general hurts brains… Change is painful…? 🙈😅

    • @tdesq.2463
      @tdesq.2463 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@musiqtee I see. Thank You.

  • @elainerealized
    @elainerealized 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Happy Day! Guess this explains why I was the only goth in my school growing up. 🤔 I used only dress in lavender as a young child, and then in black since 12. I did add in some brown and olive green as an adult but, I don't dress brightly at all. I actually don't enjoy most bright colors, they hurt my eyes. But, I do enjoy colored lights and strangely dancing at clubs with crisp bass music. I love the way crisp bass vibrations feel. Sadly, all the bass heavy music these days has a lot of "muddy" reverb, which I do not like at all, makes me very uncomfortable. Skin crawl, shudder. I was very confused for the first part of the video, I thought gaze was going to be about how we look at people. I have so much to learn about me still. Thank you for making videos. 💙

    • @ThomasHenley
      @ThomasHenley  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’ve been hearing a lot in comments about contrasty stuff hurting people’s eyes, it just goes to show our sensory worlds and preferences are very different!

    • @lisbethbird8268
      @lisbethbird8268 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ThomasHenley another example of that I noticed is tight clingy clothing - i knew a woman who *always* needs to dress like that and I believe it's specifically related to the sensory effects. Me, I cannot stand tight clothes and usually choose mine a size or two too large if I can.

  • @cherylroberts5100
    @cherylroberts5100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would like to join your community but I can't get Google to accept my payment method 😮

  • @cherylclough1804
    @cherylclough1804 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love your feed but let me put some hyperboles in there. What if you are in a house of horrors situation, where direct eye gazing triggers jealousy or rage responses? What if the people that you look at have predatory abuse behaviours and use their gazes to intimidate or stalk you? What if being seen as weak or frightened, or strong and composed, are enough to trigger a predatory attack?
    Some of the hypotheticals about gazing are based on lab rat situations where rats are in labs and the temperature and environment is well regulated, so we just watch how the rats react and pass comments or make theories.
    One of my theories is that many of those individuals who "turned out normal" even after going through house of horrors survival have a story. In one scenario, we say it is because it happened before they were pre-verbal, so they just adapted to the abuse and learnt how to survive.
    Sounds good.
    However, as someone who was only diagnosed as high masking autistic in the last few months, after helping a soul sister raising an interesting grand child.
    Maybe my friend and I did not turn out "normal" because we were pre-verbal. Maybe we turned out normal, because we were on the autistic spectrum and able to work out how to survive insane situations. Including reducing or camouflaging our eye contact. We did not fail or go insane because our autistic spectrum enabled us to survive the disconnect. (Note, in both our cases a grandmother played a crucial role in surviving abuse and learning to go quiet, but were lost due to death and senility before we started school).
    So now, when you do those comparison-contrasts between "normal contexts". Another set of fun questions. How would either type cope in the extreme scenarios, and how "normal" would they be afterwards?
    For example, as I was catching a plane to move interstate. The main perpetrator saw me off at the airport. They said "You know, of all the three, you were the one I never worried about. I always felt I had you under control and you would never incite a rebellion in the other two. Yet, you were the one who escaped, and enabled the other two to safely escape. I always thought I had you under control, and now realize I never had you under control." I never returned to that state until decades later after they had died, they owned guns. It was not safe for my sibling or other grown up if we were in the same state while the perpetrator was still alive.
    Another thing about high masking autistics. Because we can remain calm and not over react, we get souls to say the quiet bits out loud, and our meltdown does not stop us hearing or recording what they said.
    Another play. How many neurotypical people could weave through that landscape and come out "sane"?

    • @IdeaGrazer
      @IdeaGrazer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As someone who grew up with a parent who did not respond well to some of my expressions I sincerely hope you are not dealing with that situation anymore. Twenty years later and I am still working on dealing with my anger. It has gotten better but sometimes I am triggered and I have to deal with my reactions. It helps a lot that I have someone to talk to who I can trust and be utterly honest about my feeling with. Holding back my feelings in the past hurt a lot. Art, taking long walks and having a dog to care for also helped. I don't think anyone on this Earth is any different when it comes to childhood trauma.

  • @adrianhdragon718
    @adrianhdragon718 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fellow ASPIE here !

  • @HenrikBergpianorganist
    @HenrikBergpianorganist 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A lot of stuff making sense to me.

  • @misspat7555
    @misspat7555 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Due to the natures of my jobs for most of 13 years now (mostly acting in loco parentis for other people’s very vulnerable children; either very young or disabled), my wardrobe is mostly elastic-waist jeans and G-rated t-shirts. People who stand out scare me because I’m afraid of accidentally staring at them and have to be especially careful not to, which I’m painfully aware may ALSO end up looking concerning… just please look ordinary, parents of children I care for… 😬

    • @ThomasHenley
      @ThomasHenley  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That’s really interesting!

  • @jarmoliebrand2005
    @jarmoliebrand2005 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t think I’m necessarily attracted to strikingly unique. Or maybe I am. A lot of people seem to have ‘a type’, but… I don’t know. I guess I don’t. I’ve not been in a relationship (not since I was like 4 or 5 or something [and that’s of course quite different to romantic relationships as a(n) (young) adult]). I think visually, a lot of people can look good (and for me, in the case of women, attractive). I guess I’m not really attracted to a specific ethnicity or anything. And I think a lot of different personalities have their own positives and negatives, though not all personalities attract me. I guess I’m mostly focused on shared values and interests. And someone just being themselves and not going with the masses.
    In what way I think I do get attracted by specific features is… What I don’t find attractive is what I’d call ‘tinkering with the body’. And plastic surgery is the biggest no-no for me. I just think it’s ugly and takes away from natural beauty. It also standardises people’s appearances with this weird beauty ideal. It kind reminds me of Syndrome saying “When everyone’s special, no one will be”, but then in reverse. When everyone is ‘beautiful’ because of plastic surgery (even though I don’t find it beautiful all), they’ll be thirteen in a dozen. In an age where this is prevalent, the people with slightly bigger ears, freckles or a crooked nose will become even more attractive, at least in my eyes. When I’d also count as ‘tinkering with the body’ are piercings and tattoos. Personally, not a fan of them. But I can at least kind of agree with where this may come from. Maybe people have a little tattoo to signify something or someone they love. That’s not… not attractive per se. But I’ll always think something like “You would’ve looked better with fully natural skin”. Jewellery and makeup I wouldn’t count as tinkering with the body. But I don’t like them when they’re excessive. I don’t wear jewellery, but I do have few accessories, like an armband and they’re relatively subtle.
    If you want want I’d classify as ‘tinkering with your body’, I don’t mean to judge or discourage you. It’s just not what I like.
    I do prefer the looks of people who look visually distinct. Little ‘imperfections’ make someone way more attractive. They stand out for just looking natural.

  • @alpachinko9154
    @alpachinko9154 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Completely off topic, but when did "versus" become "verse" in colloquial English?
    Not trying to have a go at Thomas, genuinely wondering

    • @IdeaGrazer
      @IdeaGrazer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are correct. Thanks for pointing that out. I would have missed it otherwise.

    • @alpachinko9154
      @alpachinko9154 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@IdeaGrazer I honestly wish I wasn't correct in this instance lol

  • @johndaniel6443
    @johndaniel6443 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are different type of male gaze'. Gay male vs Hetero. I would imagine its mirrored for the female gaze too.

  • @MLX1401
    @MLX1401 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Male gaze is men objectifying women, perceiving them as they'd mostly exist to please the opposite sex.
    So, neurodivergent gaze should refer to unequalizing and inapproppriate attitude and behaviour too, right?

    • @FemboiMuffin
      @FemboiMuffin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What are you talking about >~< I’m male and my gaze isn’t like that at all :c 😖 I don’t even feel s*xually attracted to women :( it’s not fair to say that ❤️‍🩹
      I’ve been treated like an object many times, so why would I treat others such way, if I know the pain >~

    • @MLX1401
      @MLX1401 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Male gaze is not a "theory of men", it's simply a term to describe certain behaviour. It's not trying to attack individual males, either.
      It's original idea was to raise awareness about how females were and still are portrayed in art and film (think about "bathing scenes").
      As said, male gaze is not referring to desirable (at least in the western culture) behaviour - so "ND Gaze" shouldn't be something typical for us on the spectrum, but instead something "we" sometimes do, but shouldn't. "Aspie supremacy"* could be an example of ND gaze.
      *Seeing neurotypicals as a lesser breed - don't get me started how deranged this is 😆

    • @FemboiMuffin
      @FemboiMuffin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MLX1401 Oohh I see… thank you!💕
      But the names are so misleading and potentially harmful to the image of the respective groups :c it’s not ND gaze or Male gaze then, it should be called Supremacist Gaze, S*xist Gaze, etc. instead. It has nothing to do with your gender, condition ir anything of the sorts. Anyone can be a meanie, anyone can be supremacist or s*xist. So it feels a little bad calling them that way >~

    • @pahvi3
      @pahvi3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@FemboiMuffin Male gaze comes from media analysis, it doesn't mean any single man's gaze. It was originally meant to describe how women are portrayed in MEDIA, like movies and books. The way an author would describe a woman's looks more than her inner thoughts, or the way that the film camera devours a woman's body but rarely takes her perspective. The way that everything female characters do is supposed to be titillating. It's not about being a "meanie", it's about how women are portrayed in media from a male perspective.

    • @pahvi3
      @pahvi3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Women take on the male gaze too and glare at themselves from this 3rd person view, constantly scrutinizing whether they're catering to this male gaze

  • @mickeyiael9013
    @mickeyiael9013 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ❣️💌❣️

  • @shorgoth
    @shorgoth 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My experience is simply COMPLETELY different. Autism is just way more complex than any stereotype and finding commonalities in all autistic people is a fool's erand. There are sorts of islands in the spectrum where you can find more commonalities but overall... like for me flashy colours litterally hurt my eyes. I would NEVER wear anything bright. There are way more "undercover" autistic people than clearly autistic ones. It makes making any assumption of comonalities based on the visible part of the spectrum completely off base.

  • @PIPFinalFilmProject
    @PIPFinalFilmProject 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have to disagree with you on the sentiment of the term "male gaze" being carried too far in mainstream. As an autistic woman, there are an absurb number of male "artists" (i'm most familair with filmmaking, novels, and video games) that point-blank do not perceive a single one of their female characters as anything other than a mcguffin, sexual object, accessory, or plot point. I am literally talking characters that are supposed to be 14 year old girls acting like attractive "vixens" and making whole towns of adult men fall in love with them, or having to watch absurdbly graphic lgbt s*x scenes that just hover over the actresses like there's an unseen third voyeur in the room, simply watching for minute after minute after minute. I know this is hard to recognize, because my (guy) friend who is also autistic and has a special interest in film often has to have me stop whatever were watching and point out how weird it is for him to recognize it feels off. It's literally everywhere, in about like 80% of the new media I might consume at least. It is systemic and impacts girls from childhood onwards, as adults prime them to be "as attractive as possible" at any cost by complimenting their appearance and not their personality. Women, of course, contribute to these ridiculous standards by self-policing, so it is not men alone making the "male gaze," but men have no experienced this omipotent feeling of pressure for most of human history. If anything, men are currently reaching that level of fishbowl-self-concious because we CERTAINLY have the most terrifying, unattainable beauty standards of all time, thanks to the tech boom and comparasion game. Men are now experiencing issues of self esteem around appearance for similar reasons, being subconciously compared to whatever they see online. The fact is that women have been and will continue to be taught they are not a person if not catering to some omnipotent invisible "man" judging you, from your earliest memories. Honestly simon de beauvoir has said it much more intelligently than I ever could, but i hope this makes any sense at all, probably just rambling. Yes, they are just catering to demographics, but the social expectaiton of the objectification of women came before the assumption that "this is just what men want in their movies," and considering how wide spread the effect is on woman, I hope it keeps getting brought up until people learn to write women like actual... you know, people?

  • @sirensong237
    @sirensong237 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ah, yes. The Neurodivergent Gays. You have piqued my interest.

  • @mrferris4379
    @mrferris4379 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That rainbow thumbnail looks more like
    The autistic Gays 😂
    Jokes aside, i love the channel. Keep it up

  • @tamarahoward6409
    @tamarahoward6409 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You lost me within the first few minutes, lol I lose interest quickly when the point isn’t obvious right away. I’m high functioning autistic and adhd

  • @zanakil
    @zanakil 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    male gaze doesn't refer to fashion but the patriarchy sexually and functionally objectifying women in their representation. It's a serious problem about how gender can alienate us not an issue as inconsequential as a "looks" issue

    • @oxoniumgirl
      @oxoniumgirl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      this. it seems he totally missed the point because he's speaking on things he's not educated about and thus misunderstood the references of.

    • @IdeaGrazer
      @IdeaGrazer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@oxoniumgirl You tell him!

  • @shawnyvillaintawny3549
    @shawnyvillaintawny3549 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m intrestening in everything a little o I mix all styles or none based on how I feel and change my hair with hot weaves everything month I look like a teenager behave like a 12 year old boy talk like a guy change my game after what charchter I feel like so copy cats have no chance in real I’m soon 50 and think I haven’t grown in 20 years 😂 I never flirt I don’t have to my weird energy attracts everything I don’t wanna date thou just problem and all female get me if I get a man they desperately tryna sleep with him . They embarrass them selves I brake up laugh and always wonder what reaction they was out for . People get weird and I have problems with stalkers before in my life now I just isolate and be with me and and my attached energy that won’t let go ( a man I mean ) good night loves

  • @kathyh.1720
    @kathyh.1720 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry, Thomas, but that eye in the background bothers me. I'm going to try to listen to you but I'm going to minimize the video so I don't see that eye.

  • @BreeeYT
    @BreeeYT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    lol no offence to anyone who studies the social studies and humanities but I find they really do be reading into things too much in the humanities hahah 😂 at least too much for my brain to understand 🤖

  • @DaroTheDragon
    @DaroTheDragon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:32 YES. I always have some sort of character that I like that I feel like has some level of influence of how im acting.
    Idk why it happens but its nice and I enjoy it.

  • @jillesjohannesbilker
    @jillesjohannesbilker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:07 When I was watching all of Friends for the second time and was really familiar with the characters, I began to be have more like Chandler. Same with Abed from Community and even a real life talkshow host.
    Also: Abed himself does this, so imagine the inception when I was relating to him relating to someone. I think he could appreciate that.

  • @paulmckey634
    @paulmckey634 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I look too long and get accused of staring i almost feel people with my eyes especially in photos