19:41 Final Tier timestamp Tiers are subject to change throughout the vid, so check the final section or continue watching the vid after the item’s timestamp.
Hey man, I'm not even a big gamer but I grew up with Diablo 2 back in 2000. These videos are amazing. I don't know who you are (I'm a boring suburb dad), you just started to trend on my TH-cam. You are awesome. man. Enjoy it a lot.
Hah guess i wasn't the only one who thought not showing the stats made the whole thing pretty pointless. Also working the way up in item tier instead of score is much more entertaining. Much better this way Llama!
it had one purpose, start the video, pause it at 1 second. open your game and look at your uniques. if you see your unique at S or A tier, good, otherwise check out the video why its trash.
@@DorjeB0dh I don't need llama to tell me what's good. But i do think it's important for newcomers to understand WHY things are good. The previous format did not deliver. This does.
So I’m starting a Barb so self found for the big holy grail from scratch and among the first few elite uniques I’ve dropped are hellslayer and Messerschmidt. As I’ve nothing better I’ve respecced to axes and I’m using WW. I can reach the last breakpoint with messer (5fpa) with 70 IAS. It’s impossible to reach it with hellslayer so although it’s got the edge on raw damage I prefer the Messerschmidt. The attack rating bonus also means i hit more consistently (I have decent amount of flat AR). So there’s my two cents. Both are cool weapons to rock until I get into some fast swords (azurewrarg, doombringer? Which I both love) and ultimately of course a grief…
Playing Zealot, got a nice drop of Gull Dagger very early so rocked that through a lot of normal. Made a Spirit sword and used that into Nightmare. But I was getting sick of having to tele to town all the time to repair. Then Butcher's Pupil dropped. What a godsend! The only thing missing is Crushing Blow, but as long as you have that somewhere else, this weapon is golden. Insane attack speed, high damage for the level and reqs, and with it being indestructible I barely have to repair my gear ever instead of every couple minutes (darn you, Zeal). I'm heading into Hell now and thinking about how I can upgrade... If I can find something else indestructible or what...
Am I drunk, or didn't Hellslayer use to be like the go to weapon for wolfdruids? I do remember a lot of them running it back in the day, probably 1.09.
I have a question. With the new discoveries about how the remaster has changed attack speed having a higher frame rate and such. Are some of these slow weapons possibly better than previously?
Honestly i think you underrate the Chieftain - its damage is very good for lvl 19 and upwards. Besides the Mauls i think it is one of the best melee 2h weapons you can find. If you rate Goreshovel as B, The Cheieftain with about 75% more damage but a little bit worse stats is imho compareable
I love these lists. Please when your done the weapon list do a clip of ranking all the S tier weapon. If this wasn't your plan already. Like or comment on this to get his attention if you agree
Overall a good job on these tier lists! Just fyi: Axe of Fechmar is actually a TERRIBLE charger weapon. Frozen monsters can NEVER be knocked back - including the knockback innate to the charge skill. Thus you'd have to back away and reposition with each hit.
Minotaur S tier perfect for whirlwind, why? its not blind on hit, its blinds target meaning it actually works with whirlwind and is a reasonable defensive layer, add the slow 50% and the crushing blow and its better effective than many runewords
does everything proc on whirl-wind? I can't remember if it does or not.. Also, I think you need to split out your ratings based on use in normal, nightmare and hell and maybe stick to things you can actively get in each.. Like I know you can get some exceptional items in normal and some elite in nightmare (typically act 5) but I think use-case actually does change how useful these items are. Bone-snapper for instance is a beast in normal but if you upgrade it.. rocks nightmare as well, so dual-use weapon there and can even be used for a little bit in hell.. though not for long.
I've found several ethereal items with the indestructible mod on it and you ever cover one here, the ethereal edge. Also, I've never understood the hype about the open wounds or pmh mods on the early game weapons. I've never needed it except for D clone and the ubers.
It is good for purpose of stopping Diablo and his minions from healing.
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For those who play in French: S : Death Cleaver -> Fendoir Fatal S : Butcher’s Pupil -> Disciple du Boucher S : Rune Master -> Maitre des runes A : Spellsteel -> Merline A : Islestrike -> Lagon Noir A : Razor’s Edge -> Fil du rasoir A : Cranebreak -> Cracoucass B : Ethereal Edge -> Lame boréale B : Deathspade -> Soc de la mort B : The Gnashet -> Le Déchireur B : Coldkill -> Mort Froide B : Goreshovel -> Pelle Sanguinaire B : Guardian naga -> Naga Guardienne B : Hellslayer -> Tue l’Enfer B : Boneslayer Blade -> Tranche Tibia
GUYS: DONT TO FORGET TP UPGRADE UNIQUES IN THE CUBE!!!! Especially early on, they make great late normal, early Nightmare weapons. Hellplague Runesword is worth checking out.
absolutely can't understand the placing of spellsteel and deathspade (both c imo), but at least death cleaver in the first place :) would put butcher's in high a tier though.
Stormrider is good in early game up to nightmare but it have too low flat dmg to be good in the whirlwind builds which are the most efficient builds. Better option for exchange that item is rare gothic axe with +1 or +2 to barb skills, lifesteal, manasteal, + to attack rating by level, + to dmg by level or some resistances. After double upgrade such axe can overpower most of gold axes. IMO it is best option in hell for axes. It can at ease do >3k dmg with whirlwind and >4k dmg with berserk skill.
Well I have one. I found it in hell act 2 in desert before Tal Rasha tombs. At switch weapon for barb it is good to have Heart Carver Rondel mainly for not spending points on grim ward. Grim ward gives best crowd control in big fights.
Completely disagree on Islestrike… it’s sloooow, I’ve tried it for Werebear and Fury Wolves, it’s way too slow and lacks damage. It’s 3 levels above Pupil and compare damage and attack speed, this is a D tier item maybe C-
Easier to follow with this format. Also on a sidenote, I have found an eth Butcher's Pupil. It was ages ago so it might not be possible anymore but goddamn it was good.
I can tell you really don't like melee builds! While the 1.10 runewords do now make a lot of these look kinda sad, a number of them are still amazing weapons. Hellslayer was most definitely a top tier OG two-hander, and it's still a wonderful weapon to use on the right character. It's no BotD, Death, or Doom, but I'll use it any day on a shape shifter or axe barb.
These tier lists highlight how bad melee builds are. Just compare what these items give you in comparison to Eschuta's, Oculus, D-web or The Arm of King Leoric.
Timestamps for item description:
03:20 Axe of Fechmar
01:52 Bladebone
12:35 Boneslayer Blade
05:34 Brainhew
08:27 Butcher's Pupil
07:21 Coldkill
15:17 Cranebeak
15:50 Death Cleaver
01:04 Deathspade
16:08 Ethereal Edge
18:24 Executioner's Justice
03:58 Goreshovel
10:21 Guardian Naga
17:11 Hellslayer
06:12 Humongous
09:20 Islestrike
17:55 Messerschmidt's Reaver
09:46 Pompeii's Wrath
02:47 Rakescar
14:04 Razor's Edge
14:44 Rune Master
02:19 Skull Splitter
11:15 Spellsteel
11:58 Stormrider
04:43 The Chieftain
00:13 The Gnasher
13:20 The Minotaur
10:50 Warlord's Trust
19:41 Final Tier timestamp
Tiers are subject to change throughout the vid, so check the final section or continue watching the vid after the item’s timestamp.
Hey man, I'm not even a big gamer but I grew up with Diablo 2 back in 2000. These videos are amazing. I don't know who you are (I'm a boring suburb dad), you just started to trend on my TH-cam. You are awesome. man. Enjoy it a lot.
New format is perfect. Maybe redo the Rune Word one like this? 😅
Good job Llama. You are going to dominate the D2R content creators with all your interesting and helpful guides, reviews, etc.
Hah guess i wasn't the only one who thought not showing the stats made the whole thing pretty pointless. Also working the way up in item tier instead of score is much more entertaining. Much better this way Llama!
it had one purpose, start the video, pause it at 1 second. open your game and look at your uniques. if you see your unique at S or A tier, good, otherwise check out the video why its trash.
@@DorjeB0dh I don't need llama to tell me what's good. But i do think it's important for newcomers to understand WHY things are good. The previous format did not deliver. This does.
This is so much better than the rest of the tier lists!! (except maybe the rings, where you did explain things too). Great job, gorgeous!!!!
This format is SOOOO much better. You should consider doing the other ones over again.
So I’m starting a Barb so self found for the big holy grail from scratch and among the first few elite uniques I’ve dropped are hellslayer and Messerschmidt. As I’ve nothing better I’ve respecced to axes and I’m using WW. I can reach the last breakpoint with messer (5fpa) with 70 IAS. It’s impossible to reach it with hellslayer so although it’s got the edge on raw damage I prefer the Messerschmidt. The attack rating bonus also means i hit more consistently (I have decent amount of flat AR). So there’s my two cents. Both are cool weapons to rock until I get into some fast swords (azurewrarg, doombringer? Which I both love) and ultimately of course a grief…
Playing Zealot, got a nice drop of Gull Dagger very early so rocked that through a lot of normal. Made a Spirit sword and used that into Nightmare. But I was getting sick of having to tele to town all the time to repair. Then Butcher's Pupil dropped. What a godsend! The only thing missing is Crushing Blow, but as long as you have that somewhere else, this weapon is golden. Insane attack speed, high damage for the level and reqs, and with it being indestructible I barely have to repair my gear ever instead of every couple minutes (darn you, Zeal). I'm heading into Hell now and thinking about how I can upgrade... If I can find something else indestructible or what...
Where's lacerator?
Am I drunk, or didn't Hellslayer use to be like the go to weapon for wolfdruids? I do remember a lot of them running it back in the day, probably 1.09.
Yep, top tier through 1.09.
I have a question. With the new discoveries about how the remaster has changed attack speed having a higher frame rate and such. Are some of these slow weapons possibly better than previously?
No, the IAS required to hit those new IAS points are only possible on the fastest weapons which have smaller leaps to each frame rate breakpoint.
Honestly i think you underrate the Chieftain - its damage is very good for lvl 19 and upwards. Besides the Mauls i think it is one of the best melee 2h weapons you can find. If you rate Goreshovel as B, The Cheieftain with about 75% more damage but a little bit worse stats is imho compareable
Agreed. It's the best thing for Act 3/4 normal on a Shapeshifting druid.
@17:45 Do you even like it in the B, MrLlama?
I love these lists. Please when your done the weapon list do a clip of ranking all the S tier weapon. If this wasn't your plan already. Like or comment on this to get his attention if you agree
can you also do a tier list for unique exes? : )
I just found Stormrider today and it's Normal attack speed - still not good but it isn't Slow as you've read there? Weird
Overall a good job on these tier lists!
Just fyi: Axe of Fechmar is actually a TERRIBLE charger weapon. Frozen monsters can NEVER be knocked back - including the knockback innate to the charge skill. Thus you'd have to back away and reposition with each hit.
Minotaur S tier perfect for whirlwind, why? its not blind on hit, its blinds target meaning it actually works with whirlwind and is a reasonable defensive layer, add the slow 50% and the crushing blow and its better effective than many runewords
does everything proc on whirl-wind? I can't remember if it does or not..
Also, I think you need to split out your ratings based on use in normal, nightmare and hell and maybe stick to things you can actively get in each.. Like I know you can get some exceptional items in normal and some elite in nightmare (typically act 5) but I think use-case actually does change how useful these items are. Bone-snapper for instance is a beast in normal but if you upgrade it.. rocks nightmare as well, so dual-use weapon there and can even be used for a little bit in hell.. though not for long.
I use spellsteel on the off hand for the teleport on my SP javazon
What would you do with a 5 socket ethereal rune master? I see it has a decent price on trading but don’t understand what the point would be
I've found several ethereal items with the indestructible mod on it and you ever cover one here, the ethereal edge. Also, I've never understood the hype about the open wounds or pmh mods on the early game weapons. I've never needed it except for D clone and the ubers.
It is good for purpose of stopping Diablo and his minions from healing.
For those who play in French:
S : Death Cleaver -> Fendoir Fatal
S : Butcher’s Pupil -> Disciple du Boucher
S : Rune Master -> Maitre des runes
A : Spellsteel -> Merline
A : Islestrike -> Lagon Noir
A : Razor’s Edge -> Fil du rasoir
A : Cranebreak -> Cracoucass
B : Ethereal Edge -> Lame boréale
B : Deathspade -> Soc de la mort
B : The Gnashet -> Le Déchireur
B : Coldkill -> Mort Froide
B : Goreshovel -> Pelle Sanguinaire
B : Guardian naga -> Naga Guardienne
B : Hellslayer -> Tue l’Enfer
B : Boneslayer Blade -> Tranche Tibia
I used Deathspade on my frenzy/DS barb until the Bloody Foothills, mostly for the mana per kill
I don't suppose you will do runewords again with this format?
GUYS: DONT TO FORGET TP UPGRADE UNIQUES IN THE CUBE!!!! Especially early on, they make great late normal, early Nightmare weapons. Hellplague Runesword is worth checking out.
Vile husk upped to balrog blade was descent
absolutely can't understand the placing of spellsteel and deathspade (both c imo), but at least death cleaver in the first place :)
would put butcher's in high a tier though.
why no horadric hand axe on the list?
yay butchers pupil and razors edge were my 2 favourite that i found of the axes
Axe of Fechmar is very fast on Druids, and really not bad.
"There can be no battle till Axe is at hand. And Axe is." -Axe
I remember being excited to find messerschmits
Can you do a video on how to upgrade items. Can you only upgrade uniques and magic items
Hey, Stormrider in Ressurrected is now normal attack speed. Still junk?
Stormrider is good in early game up to nightmare but it have too low flat dmg to be good in the whirlwind builds which are the most efficient builds. Better option for exchange that item is rare gothic axe with +1 or +2 to barb skills, lifesteal, manasteal, + to attack rating by level, + to dmg by level or some resistances. After double upgrade such axe can overpower most of gold axes. IMO it is best option in hell for axes. It can at ease do >3k dmg with whirlwind and >4k dmg with berserk skill.
You should really do polearms, there's so many good ones for mercs and really cool niche ones like eth tomb reaver can be BIS for werewolf druid
It is BIS indeed if eth and 3 os :)
Unique exes gradation would be cool too
Great job man!
Should color code 1 handed axes vs 2 handers
Frostwind was so bad it tried to hide in the axe category.
Images would be nice too.
what does "freezes + 2" actually mean? duration, chance or?
I'm pretty sure it's the duration of the freeze effect, so 2 seconds.
Very kind with the diffrent levels. Most of them in b c are just d.
Upgraded Butcher's pupil is better than most elite uniques.
Well I have one. I found it in hell act 2 in desert before Tal Rasha tombs. At switch weapon for barb it is good to have Heart Carver
Rondel mainly for not spending points on grim ward. Grim ward gives best crowd control in big fights.
The gnasher would have been great for Llamas mega cheap uber run lol
Xtimus uses the Gnasher on his level 18!!!! Diablo Clone kill
hoping you redo the runewordtier with this format, fingers crossed
Completely disagree on Islestrike… it’s sloooow, I’ve tried it for Werebear and Fury Wolves, it’s way too slow and lacks damage. It’s 3 levels above Pupil and compare damage and attack speed, this is a D tier item maybe C-
Easier to follow with this format. Also on a sidenote, I have found an eth Butcher's Pupil. It was ages ago so it might not be possible anymore but goddamn it was good.
I have it now. Found on act II hell in the desert before tombs of Tal Rasha.
Some are two handed
I just did 100 runs of Trav, shrenk and Pendle, literally didn’t get a single high rune... losing faith in these drops..
I can tell you really don't like melee builds! While the 1.10 runewords do now make a lot of these look kinda sad, a number of them are still amazing weapons.
Hellslayer was most definitely a top tier OG two-hander, and it's still a wonderful weapon to use on the right character. It's no BotD, Death, or Doom, but I'll use it any day on a shape shifter or axe barb.
Ahh yeah. Used to use eth hellslayer back in the day. Will always be special to me.
U forgot the unique axe called lacerator
You spelled Coldkill wrong.
Razor's Edge is insane. A+ at least.
You with death death cleaver vs me with chieftain.
Don't think I've ever seen the axe of fechmar and I've logged so many hours what the fukkkkk
"little bit of ED"
Bro you should probably see a doctor XD
YES LLAMA
These tier lists highlight how bad melee builds are. Just compare what these items give you in comparison to Eschuta's, Oculus, D-web or The Arm of King Leoric.
Hello, i'm sorry if You read this but i just wanna Say i'm depressed and been thinking to kms. Again sorry but i have no one to talk with
Frostwind = best axe.
Now lets start naggin about picture of weapon missing. Absolutely loved to play with butchers and dc
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