Timestamps for item description: 13:50 Arm of King Leoric 00:34 Bane Ash 14:49 Blackhand Key 15:22 Boneshade 13:11 Carin Shard 05:14 Chromatic Ire 19:43 Death's Fathom 16:43 Death's Web 18:56 Eschuta's Temper 11:53 Gravenspine 11:04 Maelstrom 08:53 Mang Song's Lesson 07:59 Ondal's Wisdom 03:48 Razorswitch 04:26 Ribcracker 01:12 Serpent Lord 07:00 Skull Collector 01:56 Spire of Lazarus 12:40 Suicide Branch 02:58 The Iron Jang Bong 17:40 The Oculus 02:25 The Salamander 10:33 Torch of Iro 12:18 Ume's Lament 06:21 Warpspear 20:33 Final Tier timestamp Tiers are subject to change throughout the vid, so check the final section or continue watching the vid after the item’s timestamp.
@@2700arne it's an old riddle. If you look only at the first letter of each entry you start to notice a pattern... ;P The reason for this listing on each of MrLlama's Tier List vids is that I keep coming back to check his ranking and usability of stuff I just found. Alternatively you could go with chronological order but then I'd have to use search...
@@spencereades Statements like this are so fucking useless. You realize not everyone has all runes at all times right? If it helps, think of it more like a list of items that are useful until you have top end gear.
@@MrRoboto119 not to mention when D2R comes out there won’t likely be boys, there will be a completely fresh economy. No grushing. No enigma. All the nice things we are accustomed to having easy access to will be gone.
@@TheConvectuoso I'm curious as to whether importing old characters will affect the economy in any way. Unless I heard wrong and that's not allowed, then it won't matter.
@@gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298 just to correct myself I meant bots obviously. I think maybe they meant single player only for imports. Probably because they can’t stop them? If the character data is the same type of file and the game is really just a remaster and the same under the hood Blizzard couldn’t stop people playing locally with old characters from the originals.
I have consistently used Occy on every high end sorc I've ever made. In all the time I used it for both MF'ing and progressing, I've only ever died to the random teleport twice. On the other hand, I can't count the number of times I've been saved by getting a free teleport out while I was stuck in hit recovery. I feel entirely confident saying that people vastly over-estimate how bad the random teleport on Occy is. I would go so far as to say that, for a midlevel hardcore character, (or *any* softcore character) it is actually more of a benefit than a negative.
Its likely just best practice with it to farm things you out level. Stuff that you know you can take quite a few hits from. I am gonna give it to one of my sorcs in for the magic find and try it out. If she dies because of it, at least it would be removed from the game in HC. =D
I agree. Occu is an S tier weapon and people overreact way to hard on the teleport. By game design it will save you more then kill you with the teleport. Simply because if you randomly teleports while being struck you will move away from danger. Sometimes you will teleport somewhere more dangerous but hell, you could just as easily teleported there on your own.
@@ZanZerejin And you can just as easily teleport right back out of there while the (new) enemy reacts to you and starts swinging. You probably got teleported there because you were in a bad spot in the first place. I fully agree The Oculus is silly strong.
Instead of s to d. Tiers could be more informative, one suggestion I think might be fun: GG >> Hell >> Nightmare >> Normal >> Charsi Gg: Best in slot Hell/Nightmare/Normal: Can carry in that difficulty Charsi: Worth only what Charsi gives you.
Jokes on Llama. I ran occy on a sorc in HC up to level 97. I found it actually saved me more often than It hurt, I'd teleport dumbly into a pack of dolls/souls and would get teleported to safety by the Tele on hit proc. Having max block and holy freeze merc was key, melee monsters almost never actually struck me.
When will you do one on where to get the different socketed items? Like, what difficulty to farm different vendors on different acts, and include the socket quest etc. Which act and difficulty to get a tele staff and lower resist wand. I know all this ofc, I've seen your vids and taken notes when you've said them, but that info is scattered all over random videos. Would be nice to have them all in one video for everyone else.
This and Horadric Cube recipes would be awesome to see. I have friends who want to get into the game, and a video pinpointing important information about these would be perfect to show to them.
Mnyeah maybe. On one hand MH+OH requires you to find 2 separate items. On the other hand a shield is a shield and allows you to block. The gap could at least have been smaller though. Staves should be at least some kind of viable.
I honestly wouldn’t mind if in the future the devs took at a look at some of these Garbo uniques and tweaked their stats so they are not totally useless.
When they added runewords it was definitely the better/more exciting option then to just buff existing uniques. That being said they should definitely buff some of the uniques so everyone isn't just using the same items and builds as D2. Most gamers ended up going to low level duels after a while to get away from all the runewords.
It's not just spirit, a lot of these staves cannot compare with a HOTO or Oculus and a splendor shield. Staves are at a disadvantage because they use both hands so they have to be REALLY good to get picked in late game. And I don't think that any staff is that good. All the staves are usually used because you don't have something better at that point
I often use skullcollector as my switch weapon for MF purposes at the begining of ladder with my sorc. The item is easy to find. Just because of the MF and its lvl requirement, i would put this tier B.
They should introduce medalians and let you put them in of hand slot when using a staff. Make them about the same as an amulet and it might off set not having a sheild.
Torch of Iro's biggest issue, "its so hard to find!" Been looking for it forever on my grail. In open beta I found 2 of them within a couple of hours. Too bad the Necro wasn't in the Beta.
I agree with you. I miss the days before spirit. I miss seeing ele druids using aldurs or earthshaker and sorcs using occy and lidless. I miss pnb necs using gravenspine.
I recently found out that Arm of King Leoric is not for my necro. The necro did NOT have any way to teleport, proceeded to open a chest and not get away in time to keep from getting burned (steady flame trap), then triggered freaking bone prison, and kept my necro burning until the lightbulb came on and I cast town portal. Otherwise, this wand was almost a quick hell mode death. (not maxed resist) For the record though, I love the analysis of these tier videos and I love pausing them and guessing before the answer is given. Again, so we are clear, I was almost noobed to death by a trapped chest. Not a monster. The fire triggered the proc and kept triggering it.
Yeah, it's super annoying, especially on hell, much like that Sorc orb (Oculus), that keeps teleporting you all over the place. For 5% chance, it happens way too often. Try playing Hell in areas that have bunch of those snake enemies or archers, it's huge pain, you'll consistently be disoriented.
I found a maelstrom yesterday on my new Necro who just started act 2. The light res is nice to have. Edit: I have a Occulus in HC, thinking of giving it to one of my sorcs for farming stuff in nightmare. Don't think it will see the light of day in Hell that random teleport is a bit too much a risk for me.
I have almost always had Occu as my main item, even in Hell HC, it is not THAT risky imo, you just cant slack off while wearing one, i love the orb, it is my favorite one, it keeps me focused :D
Do a Occulus hardcore run, where you have to equip the Occulus after you reach the required level :P. Obviously you have to farm the occulus with another character and socket it with a -requirements to lower to requirements :D
Dropped a chromatic ire and thought "well... That's not better than my occy + spirit shield". Came here, heard what you said about spirit destroying everything else and thought "Yup... And spirit is so cheap too, if only we had to use a Jah or Ber rune or something..." That's a shame, I would love to use a Staff as a weapon as it makes me feel like Gandalf ahah
There was a time when poison necro ruled PvP for a while. But as far as daily playing was concerned, a great majority of Necromancers played a Summoner. It's been a long time since I last played D2 but that's the way I remember it. As far as Summoner Necro is concerned, FCR is secondary. The only useful reason to have FCR is teleporting with Enigma. Otherwise, FCR isn't all that useful to a summoner. For a summoner, other than Amp. Damage, Decrefy, and Corpse Explosion, you don't bother putting any point in the other trees at all. And only Coepse Explosion gets more than 1 point. I understand the importance of FCR in the caster class in general. But you can't judge a book by its cover and you seem to putting a way too much emphasis on FCR in wands which may not necessarily be true. I mean Trang is such a garbage because that set is designed for a Poison Nec and the effect of the full set becoming a vampire incredibly slows cast rate.
I don't know why, but all the staves and wands that came with vanilla D2 (aka pre-LOD) had lot of stats that give either life\mana leech, life\mana after kill, flat damage bonuses, +attack rating, etc, it's like they expected people would play Necro or Sorc going around bonking monsters in the head. I am not kidding, look at some of the Necro wands like Sander, Infernal, etc, they all have like 3-4 "melee" status (+attack rating, +elemental dmg, +life\mana leech, etc) that are completely useless, and only thing you really get from them are +X skill and +X% fcr.
10:42 I still remember my friend finding Torch of Iro in the cold plains, and yes he was playing Necromancer, and yes it was the first time playing D2, and yes I still kinda hate him for it. And no, I've been playing D2 for over 20 years and I still haven't found it, granted I've never target farmed low ilvl items
My sorc played with the oculus on 8 player hardcore all the way to lvl97. It is not that bad except certain places (cows), a hardcore sorc should have the basics for survival anyway 75 block etc and be skilled at teleporting.
Arm is King Leoric - fantastic except for the bone prison on being struck. If you don't have teleport, this will kill you. Don't use this without teleport!
Oculus is fine if you have max block but everyone only ever builds glass cannons lol. I get a bone shield of deflecting from drogan then a Rhyme bone shield while leveling, makes max block super easy, pretty hard to die with max block unless your res are terrible and I mean that on you lol.
Nuts to have Serpent Lord in D tier. That staff's mana leech is great for progressing quickly through the early game on 8 player as a sorc which i did, i was using nova and you keep running out of mana. Overall though staves are.... rubbish like most uniques but even more so.
I had fun with serpent's lord staff with a paladin charger a2 for main hand and i think a3 for swap so charge was very cheap. Felt like a ninja (with pillow hands ofc but still a ninja)
Oculus is too annoying for S. Ctc tele is like knockback and because of that for me it's in A maybe even in B. If we were talking about all items I'd actually prefer Spirit instead of it, not even talking about HotO. Still usable for early ssf grailer.
There is a reason lots of people will use razorswitch through nm. It gives +1skills and 50 all res... basically things you want from your weapon and shield. Still, a good wand or lucky orb roll plus ancients pledge and even the S tier razorswitch is bonfire material.
@@aliebrubaker7473 exactly even the usable staves get junked as soon as you have a decent orb shield combo, you don't even need something amazing to bon fire most staves. 4 to 5 skills and decent res should be a minimum on any staff above level 65. Staves that spawn barely better than orbs and wands is a joke. You sacrarice attack speed, blocking, and variety when you give up the shield slot. I would love to see more staves used end game
Ondal's is one of two items to give an experience boost (the other being anny.) Why do people not use this as like... a weapon swap for grinding to 99? That's mostly based on boss killing Diablo and Baal, so any extra experience seems like it would be a big boost.
You failed to mention Maelstrom used to be THE rarest item in the entire game. Back in 2000/2001 many us OG players would have every unique except this one.
Kinda shitty that he gave it the lowest rank because it took a long time for him to personally find that item. I thought this was a serious guide based on how good the items were
considering they're some of the hardest items to find, i think their power is warranted. this being said, i don't think 2 sorc, 3blizz, 3 mastery, 2os, fcr rare wands can compete with fathom, which is a bit of shame. rare is the way to go for light and fire sorcs, though. eschuta's is decent but can't come close to ideal rares. IIRC 2 sorc or 3 light/fire magic wep with 20fcr and 2os is also quite desirable, as long as it has good + skill rolls like +3 light, and mastery.
okay mr lama your logic on occy really desapointed me about you i use this weapon all the time i died 1 time because off the teleport and it was because off trash gear and the teleport actually saved my life 10 to 20 time
He legit said he'd place it B-/C+ because despite having good bonuses it is high level. "I think it could fit in the B tier perfectly fine." Makes sense. For a lvl 81 the abilities are handily outclassed by Death's Fathom or a merc with Infinity. I'm not even really a Llama fangirl and I think you guys might be taking tier lists for a 17 year old meta a bit serious to be chopped up about where he places an item most players will never in 5000 mf runs even see.
@@aliebrubaker7473 I straight up could not tell if Llama was being sarcastic when he said that, hence my question. Either way, it's nbd tho. @SaphricPCGaming he still gives great advice and reasoning for his choices. Your loss imo.
chromatic ire above leoric smh. cause if you talk about lvl req, leoric is a lvl 36 item and can easily carry your summoner through the game. otherwise i mostly agree with the list.
You were very inconsistent comparing these to runewords, while purposefully NOT comparing the melee weapons to runewords. Can’t compare something like Boneshade to white, but without runewords it’s an S tier.
IDK MrLlama, I think this is a little helpful but not super helpful because in game I'm not comparing just unique vs unique items... sets and runewords compete against them in the same slot. So if i get a set staff and a unique staff... How am I supposed to compare them? I like the idea what you're doing here... But I feel it needs to include all available items in that category.
Weapon and armor runewords are more than likely always going to be better than any unique you find. Most of the items he throws out here are for early game and or just to be used until you are able to make the big boy runewords. Set pieces are not that great in general besides the pieces of tal, trang gloves, and a few others I cant think of atm.
@@Em4gdn1m it’s his personal rankings on items. Like I said- not a guide. The point isn’t to tell you which items to use. Most of them are for leveling and you don’t control what drops anyway.
I think this video just shows how insanely broken Leaf is. There's literally no reason not to use it for all of Normal unless for some reason you just do not want to play fire sorc
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Timestamps for item description:
13:50 Arm of King Leoric
00:34 Bane Ash
14:49 Blackhand Key
15:22 Boneshade
13:11 Carin Shard
05:14 Chromatic Ire
19:43 Death's Fathom
16:43 Death's Web
18:56 Eschuta's Temper
11:53 Gravenspine
11:04 Maelstrom
08:53 Mang Song's Lesson
07:59 Ondal's Wisdom
03:48 Razorswitch
04:26 Ribcracker
01:12 Serpent Lord
07:00 Skull Collector
01:56 Spire of Lazarus
12:40 Suicide Branch
02:58 The Iron Jang Bong
17:40 The Oculus
02:25 The Salamander
10:33 Torch of Iro
12:18 Ume's Lament
06:21 Warpspear
20:33 Final Tier timestamp
Tiers are subject to change throughout the vid, so check the final section or continue watching the vid after the item’s timestamp.
What is This order Line up lol
@@2700arne it's an old riddle. If you look only at the first letter of each entry you start to notice a pattern... ;P
The reason for this listing on each of MrLlama's Tier List vids is that I keep coming back to check his ranking and usability of stuff I just found.
Alternatively you could go with chronological order but then I'd have to use search...
This tier list is more top-heavy than Andariel.
And yet no one will use them because of runewords :(
@@spencereades Statements like this are so fucking useless. You realize not everyone has all runes at all times right? If it helps, think of it more like a list of items that are useful until you have top end gear.
@@MrRoboto119 not to mention when D2R comes out there won’t likely be boys, there will be a completely fresh economy. No grushing. No enigma. All the nice things we are accustomed to having easy access to will be gone.
@@TheConvectuoso I'm curious as to whether importing old characters will affect the economy in any way. Unless I heard wrong and that's not allowed, then it won't matter.
@@gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298 just to correct myself I meant bots obviously.
I think maybe they meant single player only for imports. Probably because they can’t stop them? If the character data is the same type of file and the game is really just a remaster and the same under the hood Blizzard couldn’t stop people playing locally with old characters from the originals.
Horadric staff is too op for this list 😎🤙
lolll facts
I have consistently used Occy on every high end sorc I've ever made.
In all the time I used it for both MF'ing and progressing, I've only ever died to the random teleport twice. On the other hand, I can't count the number of times I've been saved by getting a free teleport out while I was stuck in hit recovery. I feel entirely confident saying that people vastly over-estimate how bad the random teleport on Occy is. I would go so far as to say that, for a midlevel hardcore character, (or *any* softcore character) it is actually more of a benefit than a negative.
People will always put more emphasis on that moment they died from it because they can be mad about it and blame the item.
@@Purriah Something something British airplanes, WW2, survivorship bias
Its likely just best practice with it to farm things you out level. Stuff that you know you can take quite a few hits from. I am gonna give it to one of my sorcs in for the magic find and try it out. If she dies because of it, at least it would be removed from the game in HC. =D
I agree. Occu is an S tier weapon and people overreact way to hard on the teleport. By game design it will save you more then kill you with the teleport. Simply because if you randomly teleports while being struck you will move away from danger. Sometimes you will teleport somewhere more dangerous but hell, you could just as easily teleported there on your own.
@@ZanZerejin And you can just as easily teleport right back out of there while the (new) enemy reacts to you and starts swinging. You probably got teleported there because you were in a bad spot in the first place. I fully agree The Oculus is silly strong.
Instead of s to d. Tiers could be more informative, one suggestion I think might be fun:
GG >> Hell >> Nightmare >> Normal >> Charsi
Gg: Best in slot
Hell/Nightmare/Normal: Can carry in that difficulty
Charsi: Worth only what Charsi gives you.
Jokes on Llama. I ran occy on a sorc in HC up to level 97.
I found it actually saved me more often than It hurt, I'd teleport dumbly into a pack of dolls/souls and would get teleported to safety by the Tele on hit proc.
Having max block and holy freeze merc was key, melee monsters almost never actually struck me.
When will you do one on where to get the different socketed items? Like, what difficulty to farm different vendors on different acts, and include the socket quest etc. Which act and difficulty to get a tele staff and lower resist wand. I know all this ofc, I've seen your vids and taken notes when you've said them, but that info is scattered all over random videos. Would be nice to have them all in one video for everyone else.
This and Horadric Cube recipes would be awesome to see. I have friends who want to get into the game, and a video pinpointing important information about these would be perfect to show to them.
I like this format more. The fact that you don't throw the finished list out and working through it is nice to watch :) keep it up
They REALLY needed to make 2 hand weapo s stronger to compete with the weapon-shield combo
Mnyeah maybe. On one hand MH+OH requires you to find 2 separate items. On the other hand a shield is a shield and allows you to block. The gap could at least have been smaller though. Staves should be at least some kind of viable.
@@thefilth7368 make sorceress unable to equip a shield, ez fix
I didn't say it on the other vids, but I really do enjoy the new format. You're killing it, dude.
I honestly wouldn’t mind if in the future the devs took at a look at some of these Garbo uniques and tweaked their stats so they are not totally useless.
its not as much "garbo uniques" as it is, OP RUNEWORDS
@@NokturnalMTG yeah your not lying, when the crazy runewords came out stuff I used to pick up became vendor trash.
@@NokturnalMTG yeah, they could buff the uniques and also add another difficulty to the game.
When they added runewords it was definitely the better/more exciting option then to just buff existing uniques. That being said they should definitely buff some of the uniques so everyone isn't just using the same items and builds as D2. Most gamers ended up going to low level duels after a while to get away from all the runewords.
This list is good, as a veteran D2 player I can’t say I disagree with any placements.
It's not just spirit, a lot of these staves cannot compare with a HOTO or Oculus and a splendor shield. Staves are at a disadvantage because they use both hands so they have to be REALLY good to get picked in late game. And I don't think that any staff is that good. All the staves are usually used because you don't have something better at that point
My Fury Druid rocked a ribby as the endgame item. Nothing beats it for what it does 😊
@@ngohiep5003 Yes there may be one or two exceptions but for the most part I think that what I wrote holds true
@@cgerman no doubt about it, in general
SImple fix: give staves a chance to block.
I often use skullcollector as my switch weapon for MF purposes at the begining of ladder with my sorc. The item is easy to find. Just because of the MF and its lvl requirement, i would put this tier B.
They should introduce medalians and let you put them in of hand slot when using a staff. Make them about the same as an amulet and it might off set not having a sheild.
I like it!
Torch of Iro's biggest issue, "its so hard to find!" Been looking for it forever on my grail. In open beta I found 2 of them within a couple of hours. Too bad the Necro wasn't in the Beta.
I found one on open beta too lol, you will be better mf'ing in the stoney field on normal to get it for the grail lol
Bane Ash and Lazarus are both the same tier. Either A or B. for a fire sorc at level 5 Bane Ash is incredible.
I agree with you. I miss the days before spirit. I miss seeing ele druids using aldurs or earthshaker and sorcs using occy and lidless. I miss pnb necs using gravenspine.
I recently found out that Arm of King Leoric is not for my necro. The necro did NOT have any way to teleport, proceeded to open a chest and not get away in time to keep from getting burned (steady flame trap), then triggered freaking bone prison, and kept my necro burning until the lightbulb came on and I cast town portal. Otherwise, this wand was almost a quick hell mode death. (not maxed resist) For the record though, I love the analysis of these tier videos and I love pausing them and guessing before the answer is given. Again, so we are clear, I was almost noobed to death by a trapped chest. Not a monster. The fire triggered the proc and kept triggering it.
Yeah, it's super annoying, especially on hell, much like that Sorc orb (Oculus), that keeps teleporting you all over the place. For 5% chance, it happens way too often. Try playing Hell in areas that have bunch of those snake enemies or archers, it's huge pain, you'll consistently be disoriented.
Torch of Iro's biggest issue, "its so hard to find!" My brother playing a necro, found one 2 days ago at level 5. That NEVER HAPPENS!
I found one on the open beta and no necro meant it was useless really lol
@@UnreliableUsername haha oh no! My brother beat hell with that wand, but I guess a skelemancer can do just fine with poor gear
I found a maelstrom yesterday on my new Necro who just started act 2. The light res is nice to have.
Edit: I have a Occulus in HC, thinking of giving it to one of my sorcs for farming stuff in nightmare. Don't think it will see the light of day in Hell that random teleport is a bit too much a risk for me.
I have almost always had Occu as my main item, even in Hell HC, it is not THAT risky imo, you just cant slack off while wearing one, i love the orb, it is my favorite one, it keeps me focused :D
Loving all your content and helpful info as I wait d2 resurrected to come out keep up the amazing work
Occy teleport has never screwed me over and I use it every time until I can get full Tal's but that proc is consistently slightly irritating.
the "new" format is very very cool thank you for the help
Do a Occulus hardcore run, where you have to equip the Occulus after you reach the required level :P. Obviously you have to farm the occulus with another character and socket it with a -requirements to lower to requirements :D
Nah, eschutas is S+ if you get 3 skill, 40 for and the damage to light and fire is sick
Dropped a chromatic ire and thought "well... That's not better than my occy + spirit shield". Came here, heard what you said about spirit destroying everything else and thought "Yup... And spirit is so cheap too, if only we had to use a Jah or Ber rune or something..."
That's a shame, I would love to use a Staff as a weapon as it makes me feel like Gandalf ahah
if the staves were one handed they'd actually have some interesting play instead of all being outshined by anything else + spirit shield
There was a time when poison necro ruled PvP for a while. But as far as daily playing was concerned, a great majority of Necromancers played a Summoner. It's been a long time since I last played D2 but that's the way I remember it. As far as Summoner Necro is concerned, FCR is secondary. The only useful reason to have FCR is teleporting with Enigma. Otherwise, FCR isn't all that useful to a summoner. For a summoner, other than Amp. Damage, Decrefy, and Corpse Explosion, you don't bother putting any point in the other trees at all. And only Coepse Explosion gets more than 1 point.
I understand the importance of FCR in the caster class in general. But you can't judge a book by its cover and you seem to putting a way too much emphasis on FCR in wands which may not necessarily be true. I mean Trang is such a garbage because that set is designed for a Poison Nec and the effect of the full set becoming a vampire incredibly slows cast rate.
Oculus teleport has actually saved the char several times in HC and never put me in more danger
great content, and love the new format
Alex, please use item images for your tier lists. Please!
I don't know why, but all the staves and wands that came with vanilla D2 (aka pre-LOD) had lot of stats that give either life\mana leech, life\mana after kill, flat damage bonuses, +attack rating, etc, it's like they expected people would play Necro or Sorc going around bonking monsters in the head. I am not kidding, look at some of the Necro wands like Sander, Infernal, etc, they all have like 3-4 "melee" status (+attack rating, +elemental dmg, +life\mana leech, etc) that are completely useless, and only thing you really get from them are +X skill and +X% fcr.
10:42 I still remember my friend finding Torch of Iro in the cold plains, and yes he was playing Necromancer, and yes it was the first time playing D2, and yes I still kinda hate him for it.
And no, I've been playing D2 for over 20 years and I still haven't found it, granted I've never target farmed low ilvl items
Great content as always. One bit of feedback though: I´d really really appreciate timestamping each weapons in the TH-cam Player. : )
I got one called Demon Weaver. Can't find it any mention of it anywhere. Seems fairly good. 🤔
Interesting if you already explained each attribute.
- Target Defence.. Damage reduced.. Damaged to undead.. zombie or ghost? :E
Would be nice to see
Found mang songs lesson in WSK a few days ago!
A 15-15 Fire Cold Mang Song is basically the perfect MeteOrb weapon.
My sorc played with the oculus on 8 player hardcore all the way to lvl97. It is not that bad except certain places (cows), a hardcore sorc should have the basics for survival anyway 75 block etc and be skilled at teleporting.
Refresherr course before Sep 23😎
The random teleport on Oculus have saved me more times than it has killed me, which feels really weird to say. :P
Mang Song's says ladder only. How did Mrllama get it? Does Plugy imitate ladder?
Ribcracker is my favorite item in the game
Arm is King Leoric - fantastic except for the bone prison on being struck. If you don't have teleport, this will kill you. Don't use this without teleport!
My beloved item class. Still looking for a first Death's Fathom
Oculus is fine if you have max block but everyone only ever builds glass cannons lol. I get a bone shield of deflecting from drogan then a Rhyme bone shield while leveling, makes max block super easy, pretty hard to die with max block unless your res are terrible and I mean that on you lol.
Llama out here with these Tier Lists like DJ Khaled...
"Anotha One!"
I'm playing poison necro right now death web would be so good to find
5:43 Yeah, thanks Spirit.
Will Mang Song's Lesson never be available in non-ladder? What happens if you have it on a ladder character and the ladder season ends?
I think Serpent Lord might've been more useful in V1 with no mana pots at shops. Still not great, but better
Nuts to have Serpent Lord in D tier. That staff's mana leech is great for progressing quickly through the early game on 8 player as a sorc which i did, i was using nova and you keep running out of mana. Overall though staves are.... rubbish like most uniques but even more so.
Lama. Thank you for what you do.
I like how he did not acknowledge Blaze at all on the Bong lol
could you make best bases for runewords tierlist?
Llama: I'd put it in SS
Death's Fathom: Dankeschön
*Michael Scott oops face*
Summoners don't really need much fcr, so gravespine could be higher.
Should just do a video of the best S tier items to keep or sell for new players.
Staves, Orbs, Wands and Spirit... 4 nations lived peacefully in harmony, until the Spirit nation attacked.
I had fun with serpent's lord staff with a paladin charger a2 for main hand and i think a3 for swap so charge was very cheap.
Felt like a ninja (with pillow hands ofc but still a ninja)
Oculus is too annoying for S. Ctc tele is like knockback and because of that for me it's in A maybe even in B. If we were talking about all items I'd actually prefer Spirit instead of it, not even talking about HotO. Still usable for early ssf grailer.
Idk about usable. I’d say best-in-slot. The amount of power and resistances in conjunction with the mf when it’s isted is really amazing.
So hard deciding eschutas, wizardspike or spirit for my hydra sorc
Staves need better stats to make up for being two handed. They are neglected because of this.
There is a reason lots of people will use razorswitch through nm. It gives +1skills and 50 all res... basically things you want from your weapon and shield. Still, a good wand or lucky orb roll plus ancients pledge and even the S tier razorswitch is bonfire material.
@@aliebrubaker7473 exactly even the usable staves get junked as soon as you have a decent orb shield combo, you don't even need something amazing to bon fire most staves. 4 to 5 skills and decent res should be a minimum on any staff above level 65. Staves that spawn barely better than orbs and wands is a joke. You sacrarice attack speed, blocking, and variety when you give up the shield slot. I would love to see more staves used end game
Ondal's is one of two items to give an experience boost (the other being anny.) Why do people not use this as like... a weapon swap for grinding to 99? That's mostly based on boss killing Diablo and Baal, so any extra experience seems like it would be a big boost.
we do use it, you basically have to to get to 99 washout going completely insane
You failed to mention Maelstrom used to be THE rarest item in the entire game. Back in 2000/2001 many us OG players would have every unique except this one.
I've used Occulus on several 90+ HC sorcs and not had an issue. The trick is to have max block and it virtually never procs. Definite S tier not D imo
Bro, Ribcracker is no doubt S Tier.
-50% to target’s defense on the Druid Staff? Sounds like it works well if you have a melee character in your party.
Why there is only 3 unique orbs?
I found a torch of iro on the beta but couldnt put it to use because they didnt have necro :/
Disappointed you did wands with the sorc weapons, but mate you are grinding out the vids fair play to you. All a good watch.
serpant staff 100% mana steal, was it from the early stages of D2, when there were no potions to buy?
If these tier videos are not a clear red flag that this game needs a massive overhaul and rebalance, then I don't know what is.
Stats shown lets go!
That Mang Song's is so rare it'll make a man want to rip his shirt off in frustration.
Kinda shitty that he gave it the lowest rank because it took a long time for him to personally find that item. I thought this was a serious guide based on how good the items were
Does unique item can be drop in plugy?
Death's Fathom and Death's Web are way too op.
considering they're some of the hardest items to find, i think their power is warranted. this being said, i don't think 2 sorc, 3blizz, 3 mastery, 2os, fcr rare wands can compete with fathom, which is a bit of shame. rare is the way to go for light and fire sorcs, though. eschuta's is decent but can't come close to ideal rares. IIRC 2 sorc or 3 light/fire magic wep with 20fcr and 2os is also quite desirable, as long as it has good + skill rolls like +3 light, and mastery.
I swear serpent lord was made with the Diablo 1 monk in mind
okay mr lama your logic on occy really desapointed me about you i use this weapon all the time i died 1 time because off the teleport and it was because off trash gear and the teleport actually saved my life 10 to 20 time
Ok but where does Mang Song's Lesson actually rank?
Exactly. Really stopped my enjoyment of these tier lists when he just lists an item as D-tier because it took him a long time to personally find it.
He legit said he'd place it B-/C+ because despite having good bonuses it is high level. "I think it could fit in the B tier perfectly fine."
Makes sense. For a lvl 81 the abilities are handily outclassed by Death's Fathom or a merc with Infinity.
I'm not even really a Llama fangirl and I think you guys might be taking tier lists for a 17 year old meta a bit serious to be chopped up about where he places an item most players will never in 5000 mf runs even see.
@@aliebrubaker7473 I straight up could not tell if Llama was being sarcastic when he said that, hence my question. Either way, it's nbd tho.
@SaphricPCGaming he still gives great advice and reasoning for his choices. Your loss imo.
Llama I love this, but why no images? Where is the love for the artwork? Start over.
serpent lord could work on a kicksin
D2R needs to add some more unique orbs lol only 3!
Some low unique orbs would be nice though I seem to have great luck with rare orbs.
Staves: Yay were in S tier!
Spirit and Heart of the Oak: Imma about to end this mans career
Ive never seen someone use I'mma and add about to. Pretty sure I'mma is the sort form of I'm going to or I'm about to.
chromatic ire above leoric smh. cause if you talk about lvl req, leoric is a lvl 36 item and can easily carry your summoner through the game.
otherwise i mostly agree with the list.
How did you manage to forget item art?
You were very inconsistent comparing these to runewords, while purposefully NOT comparing the melee weapons to runewords. Can’t compare something like Boneshade to white, but without runewords it’s an S tier.
What do you mean that mang song’s lesson trolled you?
I assume he has a single player grail account that he is trying to collect every item in the game on and Mang Song took him forever to get.
Jewels tier list ? :)
Nah Maybe Enemy Tier list plss
Dude putting a great item on D just because "it took you too long to find" is completely silly thing to do to an item tierlist... wtf man
In baal runs I was told to not use ondal (is there a bug related to it) does the increased xp for me lower the xp for the rest of the group
I think you got trolled.
@@aliebrubaker7473 ouch 😁
now that you've finsihed the tier lists, now do a speed run using only D tier items!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
The middle of the, "D"
hahahhqaha someone in chat said "-1 to shirt" for mang songs
IDK MrLlama, I think this is a little helpful but not super helpful because in game I'm not comparing just unique vs unique items... sets and runewords compete against them in the same slot. So if i get a set staff and a unique staff... How am I supposed to compare them? I like the idea what you're doing here... But I feel it needs to include all available items in that category.
Weapon and armor runewords are more than likely always going to be better than any unique you find. Most of the items he throws out here are for early game and or just to be used until you are able to make the big boy runewords. Set pieces are not that great in general besides the pieces of tal, trang gloves, and a few others I cant think of atm.
Dude it’s a tier list not a guide
@@Purriah and a tier list can't include set items as well..? I don't get your point.
@@joemygod421 for the most part, yes. But it'd still be more helpful to see how some of the best uniques stack up against the rune words.
@@Em4gdn1m it’s his personal rankings on items. Like I said- not a guide. The point isn’t to tell you which items to use. Most of them are for leveling and you don’t control what drops anyway.
hot take: occy has saved me way more times than it has killed me
Occy has never killed me with the random tp guess im just lucky
I think this video just shows how insanely broken Leaf is. There's literally no reason not to use it for all of Normal unless for some reason you just do not want to play fire sorc
How is king leoric S tier and Blackhand B??