I have the Sette 270 for 6 years, replaced the motor twice, I'm very happy that Baratza stood behind there product , they ship the new motors at no cost, but the noise of the Sette getting to me, it's time for an upgrade to Mignon Libra.
Only the macro adjustment has steps, the micro adjustment is completely step less, you are free to put it in any position you want, making it every bit as step less as the mignon. You have repeated this in all your reviews of the sette's and it's just not not correct.
Thank you for this review. I own a Macap M4 (flat burr) and the Setti conical 270wi. I personally can’t tell a flavor difference between flat burr and conical burr coffee in the cup. One thing I do notice is that the Setti does not clump my coffee grounds. The Macap produced clumps so it does require de clumping to avoid channeling. I believe that’s a somewhat common attribute of flat burrs for some darker roasts. I was considering the Mignon but will pass for now.
I'm a bit late to the party.. I feel like we should stay away from the Baratza Sette 270 or 270wi. They are notorious for having problems with micro and macro adjustment moving during grinding. This is extremely irritating, it's a known issue (spoke to a local espresso rep and he said that the Sette has been the single worst grinder possible, returning/exchanging most of his 270 270wi sales). Not much info online, probably cuz Baratza has excellent customer service, but still. They replaced mine twice, still had that problem. They offer a felt ring to add friction, but doesn't help. 2 of my friends has that exact problem with the 270 and 270wi. Also the hopper is fragile, if you insert it too fast it can break one of the 3 tiny plastic notches that fits inside the grinder. Just ordered the Libra. thx for the video :)
Hey, I am looking for an espresso grinder maybe you can help me. I want an easy workflow without lots of tinkering. Setting once and forget about it. I won't be using a lot of different beans. Grind by weight seems awesome but I'm limited by my budget - it should cost from 300 to 400€. The Mignon Specialita is right in there and also the 270wi. I like the idea of an italian made, build like a tank Mignon but I hear that the 270 has less clumps (no wdt necessary) and also an easier and faster workflow than Specialita. Are there any other grinder options worth buying? I dont wan't to single dose and I don't want to weight in every shot. The less steps the better. Thanks for your help :)
@@J-dl3ey I'm just familiar with Sette 270 and Eureka Libra (same as Mignon but with an integrated scale). The best value is a good grinder, like your Mignon and a scale. The Libra removes 1 step from the preparatio but it's not worth it. the Eureka make so much clumps compared to the Sette 270 :( I still have my Sette 270 and the difference is huge, even after you wdt, the Sette is way fluffier. My next step is aligning the burr of the Eureka libra, or Mignon in your case. (15mn job) I think the best budget grinder possible would be the Sette without the problems. If you happen to buy a Sette 270 or 270wi that doesn't move during grinding, then you have a good version and that would be the best. If you can return it, it's worth a try. way cheaper than the Libra..
I own a Sette and like the result re: the grind. I hate how noisy it is though. If you live alone, it might be ok. But if you need to grind when others are sleeping, or for a bunch of guests, then it is really annoying. Hence, I came here to hear about the Mignon... Thanks for the video!
Same. I've been a happy 270 owner for 5+ years. I've been weighting :) for more GBW machines to hit the market. Now the question is do I go for the Libra or continue to weight for Eureka to offer this in the Oro line.
Quick question is the portafilter the original Stone? I have just purchased a Stone and Libra, and I have some problem to get a slower extraction. I'm 0,5 Libra and 18,5 gram.. My question is - could I maybe put up to 20 gram in Stone’s original portafilter? Thanks for sharing your great reviews!
Of course, there is an elephant in the room. That would be the sette's durability. Some might also say hearing loss. If you look at certain features on the sette, it seems like the outright winner. Its fast, direct, and clean approach are definitely pluses. I was a big fan of the sette for so long until the elephant appeared.
What tends to break on it? I’ve had my Sette 270W since it came out and one of the 3 tabs of the hopper and the portafilter hook broke (all plastic) but it’s still running strong. Would be nice to know so I have backup plans.
Love my Baratza 270wi’s I have 3. Yes with lots of use things will break on it but Baratza sends replacement parts at no cost and no questions asked, excellent customer service. It is incredibly fast. But after many years of having these I do crave a quieter Grind by weight design. I am reluctant to get the eureka because I hate that I would need the cone to grind every time, and I also would miss the micro steps on the Baratza and the ease of dialing in with the straight shot no retention burrs. BUT I do want quieter experience so I may replace on of my sette’s with the eureka
Designed for home use, and would not recommend it commercially. Motor hasn't been designed to handle commercial cycles. If you really like the Baratza grinder, you can look at the Etzinger as a commercial option. We have done videos on them too :)
I had the 270, and was very disappointed because the dosing was very inconsistent. Very disappointing, bought the Eureka. You did not weigh the 270 dose. With the Baratza the dosage varied 1-3 grams more or less when weighed
Hello thanks for videos in your opinion, which one of these espresso machines has a higher coffee quality? gaggia classic pro Bezzera new hobby Breville Infuser BES840XL Breville Bambino Plus Calphalon BVCLECMP1 Temp iQ rancilio silvia
Hi,from my personal experience it's everything espresso machine,coffee beans and grinder. I have a Gaggia classic pro with pid and I love it. It was in my price range and you can fix anything on it yourself and comes with year warranty. Rancilio and Gaggia are perfect beginner machines you can replace almost every part yourself and find parts online. Breville is a cheaper machine if anything happens warranty is up throw it away
Come on! This is a completely normal procedure that is still used in the vast majority of cafés today. Billions of excellent coffees have been brewed this way. Today's hype around complex preparation has certain minor advantages and increases accuracy and repeatability, but in reality it unnecessarily delays the entire coffee preparation process. When you come to the country with the best coffee in the world, Italy, nobody does complicated puck-prep in almost any cafe and the coffee is absolutely excellent anyway.
@@DianHrozek so so true. comical the lengths to which some will go and then you show up where it's been done forever and they whack it together while chatting away and, viola!, wonderful shot.
I have the Sette 270 for 6 years, replaced the motor twice, I'm very happy that Baratza stood behind there product , they ship the new motors at no cost, but the noise of the Sette getting to me, it's time for an upgrade to Mignon Libra.
Only the macro adjustment has steps, the micro adjustment is completely step less, you are free to put it in any position you want, making it every bit as step less as the mignon. You have repeated this in all your reviews of the sette's and it's just not not correct.
Thank you for this review. I own a Macap M4 (flat burr) and the Setti conical 270wi. I personally can’t tell a flavor difference between flat burr and conical burr coffee in the cup. One thing I do notice is that the Setti does not clump my coffee grounds. The Macap produced clumps so it does require de clumping to avoid channeling. I believe that’s a somewhat common attribute of flat burrs for some darker roasts. I was considering the Mignon but will pass for now.
I'm a bit late to the party.. I feel like we should stay away from the Baratza Sette 270 or 270wi. They are notorious for having problems with micro and macro adjustment moving during grinding. This is extremely irritating, it's a known issue (spoke to a local espresso rep and he said that the Sette has been the single worst grinder possible, returning/exchanging most of his 270 270wi sales). Not much info online, probably cuz Baratza has excellent customer service, but still. They replaced mine twice, still had that problem. They offer a felt ring to add friction, but doesn't help. 2 of my friends has that exact problem with the 270 and 270wi. Also the hopper is fragile, if you insert it too fast it can break one of the 3 tiny plastic notches that fits inside the grinder.
Just ordered the Libra. thx for the video :)
Hey, I am looking for an espresso grinder maybe you can help me. I want an easy workflow without lots of tinkering. Setting once and forget about it. I won't be using a lot of different beans. Grind by weight seems awesome but I'm limited by my budget - it should cost from 300 to 400€. The Mignon Specialita is right in there and also the 270wi. I like the idea of an italian made, build like a tank Mignon but I hear that the 270 has less clumps (no wdt necessary) and also an easier and faster workflow than Specialita. Are there any other grinder options worth buying? I dont wan't to single dose and I don't want to weight in every shot. The less steps the better. Thanks for your help :)
@@J-dl3ey I'm just familiar with Sette 270 and Eureka Libra (same as Mignon but with an integrated scale). The best value is a good grinder, like your Mignon and a scale.
The Libra removes 1 step from the preparatio but it's not worth it. the Eureka make so much clumps compared to the Sette 270 :( I still have my Sette 270 and the difference is huge, even after you wdt, the Sette is way fluffier. My next step is aligning the burr of the Eureka libra, or Mignon in your case. (15mn job)
I think the best budget grinder possible would be the Sette without the problems.
If you happen to buy a Sette 270 or 270wi that doesn't move during grinding, then you have a good version and that would be the best. If you can return it, it's worth a try. way cheaper than the Libra..
Thanks for sharing.
I wonder if you can change the Sette's burrs when used or broken.
Yes, Baratza parts are easily available, as are the Eureka.
We carry all the replacement parts for both :)
You can, and it's much cheaper than flat burrs
@@hotfishy Are you sure that you can change both burrs ?
@@marc6652 U know what, now you mentioned...the one that doesn't spin prob is not changeable. I was thinking the conical part that only cost 40 CAD
I own a Sette and like the result re: the grind. I hate how noisy it is though. If you live alone, it might be ok. But if you need to grind when others are sleeping, or for a bunch of guests, then it is really annoying. Hence, I came here to hear about the Mignon... Thanks for the video!
Same. I've been a happy 270 owner for 5+ years. I've been weighting :) for more GBW machines to hit the market. Now the question is do I go for the Libra or continue to weight for Eureka to offer this in the Oro line.
It is incorrect to say the Sette is stepped. You can perfectly place the ring between the letters and get infinite options.
Quick question is the portafilter the original Stone? I have just purchased a Stone and Libra, and I have some problem to get a slower extraction. I'm 0,5 Libra and 18,5 gram.. My question is - could I maybe put up to 20 gram in Stone’s original portafilter?
Thanks for sharing your great reviews!
what brand is the coffee machine you are using
why does both shots blonde so fast?
I’m thinking poor puck prep
Of course, there is an elephant in the room. That would be the sette's durability. Some might also say hearing loss. If you look at certain features on the sette, it seems like the outright winner. Its fast, direct, and clean approach are definitely pluses. I was a big fan of the sette for so long until the elephant appeared.
What tends to break on it? I’ve had my Sette 270W since it came out and one of the 3 tabs of the hopper and the portafilter hook broke (all plastic) but it’s still running strong. Would be nice to know so I have backup plans.
Love my Baratza 270wi’s I have 3. Yes with lots of use things will break on it but Baratza sends replacement parts at no cost and no questions asked, excellent customer service. It is incredibly fast. But after many years of having these I do crave a quieter Grind by weight design. I am reluctant to get the eureka because I hate that I would need the cone to grind every time, and I also would miss the micro steps on the Baratza and the ease of dialing in with the straight shot no retention burrs. BUT I do want quieter experience so I may replace on of my sette’s with the eureka
Can the Baratza be used for commercial use?
Designed for home use, and would not recommend it commercially.
Motor hasn't been designed to handle commercial cycles.
If you really like the Baratza grinder, you can look at the Etzinger as a commercial option.
We have done videos on them too :)
Conical blades give a sweeter espresso. And are better for lighter roast.
Thanks for the video! Man, there are some snobs in these comments.
I had the 270, and was very disappointed because the dosing was very inconsistent. Very disappointing, bought the Eureka. You did not weigh the 270 dose. With the Baratza the dosage varied 1-3 grams more or less when weighed
Also got one at $600 while the other one is $1000.
Hello thanks for videos
in your opinion, which one of these espresso machines has a higher coffee quality?
gaggia classic pro
Bezzera new hobby
Breville Infuser BES840XL
Breville Bambino Plus
Calphalon BVCLECMP1 Temp iQ
rancilio silvia
Hi,from my personal experience it's everything espresso machine,coffee beans and grinder.
I have a Gaggia classic pro with pid and I love it. It was in my price range and you can fix anything on it yourself and comes with year warranty.
Rancilio and Gaggia are perfect beginner machines you can replace almost every part yourself and find parts online.
Breville is a cheaper machine if anything happens warranty is up throw it away
The baratza is steppes on the macro side. And stepped on the micro. Why are you not giving real qualities on this machine.
Dont wake up u children in the morning just start the sette i used it before it’s too noisy in my opinion
Sette def is noisy!
Sette is unbeatable, sorry.. noisy but excellent
Please stop making ads for your company and do real comparisons. I would really appreciate it.
These machines are too expensive any coffee grinder can do what they do and even much better. Too expensive
Tamping without distribute? Oh noooo :-(
Come on! This is a completely normal procedure that is still used in the vast majority of cafés today. Billions of excellent coffees have been brewed this way. Today's hype around complex preparation has certain minor advantages and increases accuracy and repeatability, but in reality it unnecessarily delays the entire coffee preparation process.
When you come to the country with the best coffee in the world, Italy, nobody does complicated puck-prep in almost any cafe and the coffee is absolutely excellent anyway.
@@DianHrozek so so true. comical the lengths to which some will go and then you show up where it's been done forever and they whack it together while chatting away and, viola!, wonderful shot.
Pls learn how to level