If he did not have an open invitation to everyone else, and was doing this in the shadows, I could agree that it's a dick move. But he let everyone know he was doing it, and even would let the classes who couldn't pull it off come in and STAND THERE and hoover up loot. He kept it on the up and up, so I vote not guilty. If Savage would have ran with him and got himself a ring, this would have been a non issue =/
Glad he didn't pay DKP and stood his ground, sure he has a point the man has access thanks to the guild but if I write an award winning novel in a rented apartment do I owe my landlord royalties? But he gave me the opportunity to write the novel! The best compromise I would have come up with was maybe being taxed a small dkp fee if their that desperate to charge him. Honestly it does sound like the guy just had a grudge against author, maybe for taking over as raid leader? no way someone is actually that petty over DKP... Wait actually no I totally see it
Probably they wanna see only alts from big io players, they must not necessarily look for a carry. The thing is tho that without being a patreon of r.io, your rio score doesn't show on alt unless the alt has a minimum rio of 200 So I don't get how you want to see rio on a char for m0 edit: Minimum score for an alt is 200 (not 500)
@@Lunsomat3000 hm is that change recent? Because that wasn't the case for most of BfA, or they think I'm paying for something I'm not. You can always start your own group and not deal with any of that. Edit : Apparently this is only for the addon and it's 200 score and not 500.
@@rosco3 People won't bother to look up your character on r.io if the addon doesn't show a score I guess. And true, the threshold is 200 for an alt to be shown, not 500. 500 is the score your Main character has to have to be included in the addon database, confused that, sorry!
But most casuals are just shit by choice and use beeing casual as an excuse, we raided casual in legion and still got cutting edge within a few weeks while only raiding 2 days a week.
@@fabachso9184 Bro stfu casual litteraly just means not putting in a lot of effort but wanting to enjoy the experience, and not wanting too much out of it. You flexing how you 'casually' did cutting edge means nothing if not that you either were not that casual or that it's not that hard.
Casual means playing for the purpose of fun. You can not take a game seriously and have fun with it while being good at it. Not that difficult of a concept.
@@fabachso9184 Sure bro. At the beginning of expansion, without good legends you wouldn't be able to hit Cutting Edge in Legion. Ergo the time that had to be put in getting those legends had to be substantial and not casual at all.
@@Kyuubi1966 bullshit, xavius mythic was easier than any other mythic encounter so far, you obviously didn't face him and by the time nighthold hit everyone had their legendarys anyway
47:28 ANY LOOT DRAMA? YES! KHOR, HAMMER OF THE GUARDIAN BLIZZARD'S BIGGEST MIDDLE FINGER TO MELEE. Taloc, the first boss in Uldir, drops a weapon called Khor, Hammer of the Corrupted. It has 4 color tints from the 4 difficulties (lfr, norm, heroic, mythic) but ALSO Taloc drops a "COSMETIC WEAPON" called Khor, Hammer of the Guardian. The first day the raid was released, Khor, Hammer of the Guardian dropped as a normal item (The same as every other "cosmetic item" thats dropped in raid in every other tier - Garrosh's shoulders, Xavius' shoulders, Maiden's mace, Aggramar's sword, Argus' Scythe. They all were equal to the raid's loot in stats) but this was not to last. Upon logging in to day 2 of Uldir ready to finish progressing, I found my weapon (That had dropped from heroic the night before, 370 item level, a socket. A fantastic start to the expansion) was now weaker in stats then my itemlevel squished Shadowmourne. It was a piece of garbage. Blizzard later reverted this, giving players who had received the weapon when it was a viable piece of gear back those viable stats. Eventually. The item restore page crashed from unfortunate melee who were trying to restore any weapon they might have received whilst levelling, maybe some had kept it.. Personally I apologized to my raid team, and logged off and shortly thereafter stopped playing the expansion. I came back at the end of Eternal Palace, patch 8.2, to find my weapon still in void storage, still item level 370 with a socket and viable stats. At least I had this unique item, this piece of history to show to people. And I left it, intending to keep it safe.. keep it hidden. Unfortunately, at some point during 8.3 Vision's of N'zoth Blizzard decided to remove the item from players who had it. It took me 6 tickets to find a GM who was capable of understanding what had happened, and to actually confirm that they had in fact removed the item from my (and presumably others) account/s. LOOT DRAMA.
I sadly can't watch this while you're streaming but I cant wait for you to upload them to youtube! Absolutly amazing show mate! I really enjoy drama time!
From a Yorkshire lass to a Lancashire lad, thank you for you great streams and videos, great fun and very informative. Oh and I must say' a dimple on the chin, the devil within' lol. Keep up the great work
It’s crazy how life works. Similar to the if a butterfly flaps its wings can it create a tornado. If the Guild Leader just kindly asked him to pay DKP instead of demand it, they probably would of killed Illidan in BC and still be a guild to this day.
oh man.. I really feel for that pally in the first story. I left WoW for several years when MoP came out and when I returned, Legion was in full swing. I remember going in blind into M+ and heroic raids thinking "the mobs just have more health, right. How hard can it be? ezpz, boys!" Oh how very naive of me.
"chillin' ahead of the curve" with 3 hrs once a week. Guys, I am happy to hear that but still in disbelieve: are there still such a cool people like that? ps. this episode is just brilliant!
ahead of the curve? yeah, easily. Heroic is puggable starting from week 1. Not easily puggable, mind you, but realistic. It only gets easier as time goes on
Honestly ive found if you're honest and just say something like "I'm kinda nervous but I'm up for it" or something like that... you'd be surprised how many groups are cool with it. Healing My very first +10 in s1 of dragonflight (i hadn't played more than a few hours since MoP) as a resto shaman...during the wind boss in nokhud, i was STRUGGLING and they kept yelling for me to lust. We wiped and i said "I'm so sorry I'm really nervous this is the highest key I've done" and they all said "no prob we got this" and stuff like that. Then they gave me tips, reminded me to lust before the fight and before the last boss, and we timed the key. These strangers were surprisingly kind and they all congratulated me and the warlock traded me the dagger that dropped at the end for him. People tend to take pity if you just speak up and say "guys... I'm a noob" lol I went on to get KSM in s1. I didn't play at all in s2, but I'm about 400 away from KSM in s3 on my mistweaver. If that first +10 hadn't gone as well as it did, i might have just given up and moved on to another game
I'll be honest, I'm in a guild I can't stand (but that's because of the gm), but nobody really wants to leave it and make a new guild. There would be way too much backlash, the gm takes shit extremely personally. We also don't have anyone that's really capable of leadership (due to confidence issues thanks to the gm, or time issues, or just not being the type who can lead). So I'm stuck in a shit position going into shadowlands
I'm what you might describe as a "shit" player. I love the game, and enjoy playing it as a Kaldorei protection warrior. However, getting a handle on the number of mechanics for each boss multiplied by the number of bosses in an instance, combined with the "go go go" approach in random games is a bit too much for me to cope with. If I had a group of friends to game with, who would be patient as I learn, it wouldn't be so bad but causing wipe after wipe wouldn't be fun. I struggle IRL as well with long lists of things I'm supposed to remember. I only got through my university psychology courses because they were multiple guess exams and my guessing game was on point. I mostly play open world by myself. I'll occasionally tackle a dungeon that's way too easy for my power level just to say that I've been there and got the T-shirt. Still, I think it would be a lot more fun to be an effective part of a group. I know you have plenty of experience as a tank. Would you give me some tips for handling long lists of mechanics for instances? Is there a way to figure things out without wiping the group in the attempt?
Mate, youre overthinking this. You read about the dungeon bosses, you watch videos and most importantly you try it out until you have the mechanics on muscle memory. My first 30-40 dungeons tanking were a tragedy. The 41-60 were less so. Until it becomes second nature. Use add-ons and make an UI that helps you see the information you need (swirls to dodge, threat to keep, casts to interrupt). You will fail a lot, and ppl might get really angry at you, and if they do blizzard gave you an ignore buttom for a reason. Try, fail, try again, learn, fail again, try again, not fail. There's no secret, mate.
i was in this guild in legion that could be turned into a drama time story but i dont remember like ANYTHING cus i have an absolutely shit memory but the one thing i do remember is at one point the co-gm of our 8 person normal antorus raiding guild with 2 irl friends as gms decided everyone in the raid should have to transmog their gear to match the tabard colours to try and awe pugs we brought into antorus normal first of all, this was extremely fucking stupid second, theres like barely any gear in wow that's appearance is purple and it was basically impossible to do anyways and no one bothered anyways and the gms got pissed but didnt do anything about it
I know :( 27 years old here, really wanna hardcore raid in Shadowlands, but I work like a motherfucker from Monday to Friday and I just can invest that amount of time :(
@@ohinianahiuhki9088 You can easily clear Heroic in 1-2 raid nights a week, starting at 8 PM each. It will just take a while longer than it takes the more hardcore guilds. It's still a fun experience to raid with your guild buddies, imho.
Doing 3 obelisks with boss in PUG 10 with undergeared heals tho? Either they weren't knowing about the M10 affix at all, or they were really, really stupid. I never did any more than 1 uncleared obelisk, most of the time it was the spider. Those obelisks are simply useful to skip way worse trash, than they house themselves.
Hey preacher, have you ever thought about making these into a podcast form with audio only in addition to the TH-cam upload? I love to listen to drama time while I’m at work but being in the TH-cam app on my phone uses more battery than I’d like. Just a suggestion!
When I play something I usually , for a time , experience everything casual and then start to up my game.Let me tell you that if you want to do more difficult things and want to surround yourself with people with the same goal is hard.The ones you seek dont want anything to do with you and the casuals see you as an elitist and also dont want anything to do with you. So , if you want to transition from casual to anything attached to hard and mythic it will take a very long time. I have been in one casual guild in WoD and they were struggling to clear BRF HC and as you can expect it it was a cesspit guild.Girls were getting loot because they were girls.Couples were getting everything they wanted and if you joined the guild alone you were fucked but I was casual so I enjoyed the killing of the bosses for the first month so I didnt really care. I grew tired of it 1 month after BRF was released so I asked one of the girls was blaming the gear for not doing enough dps to kill Blackhand and I asked "How can you not do enough dps when you have all the ideal gear?"(technically "BiS hc"). She was a feral druid as I was but far far better gear than me and doing less dps than me.......the excuse they kept giving me for getting no gear week after week unless no one needed that piece. The guild master called me out to justify myself and the next second "Actually dont , you're kicked".That was the only sentence I said on guild chat aside of the usual "Hi" or "Sure ,I'll help". I was guildless for the rest of the expansion. I avoid casual guilds since then. I noticed that people like to criticize but not be critiqued and more often than not they know how to play victim. If you dont express that you feel sorry for being right because you made someone feel bad because you pointed out what they are doing wrong........ you are an elitist. All I do is what I expect someone else to point out to me but I have met only 2 or 3 officers in 7 consecutive years that point out the mistakes and they were not even in the same guild and met them far between in time. I got a better raider because they pointed out mistakes. The rest of them are "you bad , get better" when you are not even the biggest problem.They expected to carry their sorryass friends. P.S: Very few players in the respective guilds liked those 2-3 officers I am talking about and they are sociable and fun guys and gal they just pointed out what is the problem and who made the mistake and because of that most people didnt like them.They ended up in hardcore mythic guilds.
Man the judgement story made me actually feel so bad xD If anyone here, including the author of that story plays on EU, please reach out, ill be more than willing to do some dungeons with you, show you around a little and take that fear away. I'm the raid leader of a casual CE-chasing guild and i just wanna show you that its rly not that scary
unrelated to drama time, but related to your burn-out, how do you manage to repeat the same intro quests so often, every expantion i love leveling my main trough the content, then fly trough it on one of my alt's, get bored by it and give up about half way trough my 3rd character, struggle to finish it up over the next couple weeks, and then wait about half the expantion before touching the rest of my alts leveling process unless i need their crafting proffesion for something then i level them up and feel awfully bored while doing it. it's weird because i love the grind in WoW, it's just that the main leveling content is not enjoyable for me after the first time. how do you deal with that both in alpha testing and on retail when leveling yet another alt?
I can't believe people didn't heard about +10 affix at this time. No way it is possible. Absolutely no way! It is literally displayed at m+ tab of bloody ui with the rest of current week's affixes didn't it? Even if you give less than a shit about 10+ you should've been know about that out of simple curiosity. Might not experience that - it is fine, but at least know about that. And yeah, there is nothing wrong to be 3rd in heals as a undergeared pala with DK and Ret in the group, absolutely alright.
To me it always seemed like the most "casual" thing one can do is actually being efficient. Everything goes faster! There's a difference between being chill and just taking the piss :)
Should be pay DKP for his wife, if his raid didn't clear those bosses, he would not have farmed that Ring and left that guild and rejoined a new guild and met his Wife. He owes that guild DKP for his WIFE as well ! disgusting :D
How did the ret pala trade drinks? It's unlikely they would be from the same realm and even more unlikely that the pala had spare mage refreshments lying in their bags...
my 469 rogue doesnt have an io score above 800 because i dont like doing all the dungeons and only do specific ones.....i was turned down for a mechagon junkyard +4 recently .......the person who made the raider IO addon did just as much to ruin WOW as ACTIBLIZZ has.....its funny that people would rather have a trash player in their group who doesnt know wtf theyre doing and only has a high io score because mommy and daddy have a credit card to buy wow tokens to sell for gold and then pay for carries.....
@@zarblitz then if you were doing a dungeon that isn't on the list of dungeons I do and it was one of the ones I avoid because I think they are just simply shit dungeons like shrine, then I wouldn't be trying to join so I don't understand your point. My capability of doing mechanics in a dungeon I run daily such as underrot are not impacted by my choice to refuse go set foot into a dungeon like shrine
@@poyoloco6501 My point is I wouldn't take someone who simply refuses to do certain dungeons into any dungeon. Why would I when I have my pick of people who have demonstrated they're capable of doing any dungeon? The whole attitude of refusing to ever set foot in any dungeons is a huge red flag when choosing people for a group. It makes me think that there are mechanics they just can't do so I wonder what else they're incapable of doing. Better to just pick someone who's capable of doing all dungeons to be on the safe side. Because, really, they're all very easy anyway.
Loot drama with personal loot ?? I got a JUICY one! Mythic wrathion finally drops another sword. My contain already has the sword, and he is the guy who won it on personal loot! Awesome right? I mean it is not only my BiS , but I have also been using the heroic version for far too long! Great, we are all set, all is “good in the hood” as some may say! I meAn of course I his cotank would get it right? I mean he has it already, it is my BiS... right? ... ... I mean what could possibly prevent me from receiving this piece of loot right? I mean it’s not like the weapon has a gem slot, and his old one doesn’t... I mean we can easily farm gouged eyes of N’Zoth and add our own slots right? I mean we are all just returning players who started deep into the expansion when the being able to add a second socket to an already pre-socketed item bug no longer exists right? I mean IT IS a 15 Ilvl upgrade for me, he can easily farm a socket.... Right? Right?...I am not wrong in any of this RIGHT!?!??‼️⁉️ Wrong, wrong, WRONG‼️‼️‼️(insert best Charlie Murphy impression here!!!) He equipped it instantly.... I feel deep down knowing it was a dickmove, knowing that he had better equip it instantly or he would be unable to deny that I should get the weapon... I mean just because he it a lootwhore doesn’t mean he isn’t a nice guy that could have been forced to see reason!!! Anyway.... yea still salty about that....
The question is.... Should he have paid DKP??? Does he owe the guild for this?
Author did the same part as every other member of that raid to generate the lock-out. Therefore no they did owe shit to the guild. P.S.: DKP sucks.
If he did not have an open invitation to everyone else, and was doing this in the shadows, I could agree that it's a dick move. But he let everyone know he was doing it, and even would let the classes who couldn't pull it off come in and STAND THERE and hoover up loot. He kept it on the up and up, so I vote not guilty. If Savage would have ran with him and got himself a ring, this would have been a non issue =/
Glad he didn't pay DKP and stood his ground, sure he has a point the man has access thanks to the guild but if I write an award winning novel in a rented apartment do I owe my landlord royalties? But he gave me the opportunity to write the novel!
The best compromise I would have come up with was maybe being taxed a small dkp fee if their that desperate to charge him.
Honestly it does sound like the guy just had a grudge against author, maybe for taking over as raid leader? no way someone is actually that petty over DKP... Wait actually no I totally see it
NOT GUILTY. Author put in all the work to farm the ring. None of the other raiders participated in the farm thus had no opportunity to loot the ring.
The guild owed him, an apology.
So glad you're producing these episodes.
The poor holy paladin story had me in tears, the poor bloke, he did his best bless his heart lmao
And got a ret weapon, man that's brutal
Jesus preach that first story is a banger I laughed, I sighed, I cringed and I cried. Cute noobs are the best.
Lolbop?
Big feels on that story push on little plebber we believe in the climb
@@kingoftrev Dapadah doowop
IO score for a mythic 0? People just want a carry...
Probably they wanna see only alts from big io players, they must not necessarily look for a carry. The thing is tho that without being a patreon of r.io, your rio score doesn't show on alt unless the alt has a minimum rio of 200
So I don't get how you want to see rio on a char for m0
edit: Minimum score for an alt is 200 (not 500)
@@Lunsomat3000 they want a carry, dont downplay how rude the average player is, otherwise this content wouldnt need an IO score at all.
@@jtowensbyiii6018 how are you supposed to raise your io score if you can't join any groups?
@@Lunsomat3000 hm is that change recent? Because that wasn't the case for most of BfA, or they think I'm paying for something I'm not.
You can always start your own group and not deal with any of that.
Edit : Apparently this is only for the addon and it's 200 score and not 500.
@@rosco3 People won't bother to look up your character on r.io if the addon doesn't show a score I guess. And true, the threshold is 200 for an alt to be shown, not 500. 500 is the score your Main character has to have to be included in the addon database, confused that, sorry!
Had he payed DKP he might never have found his wife, and friends.
The end of that last story is the most wholesome I have ever seen the chat during Drama Time.
This was incredibly entertaining. Thanks for making these videos. I hope you continue it for Shadowlands.
Ive watched your videos for years but for whatever reason Ive not watched a Drama time episode, this was fantastic and i eagerly await the next one :)
As a casual myself, I'm not so keen on when the term is used as a synonym or excuse for "purposefully bad". The correct term for that is "troll".
But most casuals are just shit by choice and use beeing casual as an excuse, we raided casual in legion and still got cutting edge within a few weeks while only raiding 2 days a week.
@@fabachso9184 Bro stfu casual litteraly just means not putting in a lot of effort but wanting to enjoy the experience, and not wanting too much out of it. You flexing how you 'casually' did cutting edge means nothing if not that you either were not that casual or that it's not that hard.
Casual means playing for the purpose of fun. You can not take a game seriously and have fun with it while being good at it. Not that difficult of a concept.
@@fabachso9184 Sure bro. At the beginning of expansion, without good legends you wouldn't be able to hit Cutting Edge in Legion. Ergo the time that had to be put in getting those legends had to be substantial and not casual at all.
@@Kyuubi1966 bullshit, xavius mythic was easier than any other mythic encounter so far, you obviously didn't face him and by the time nighthold hit everyone had their legendarys anyway
47:28 ANY LOOT DRAMA? YES! KHOR, HAMMER OF THE GUARDIAN BLIZZARD'S BIGGEST MIDDLE FINGER TO MELEE.
Taloc, the first boss in Uldir, drops a weapon called Khor, Hammer of the Corrupted. It has 4 color tints from the 4 difficulties (lfr, norm, heroic, mythic) but ALSO Taloc drops a "COSMETIC WEAPON" called Khor, Hammer of the Guardian. The first day the raid was released, Khor, Hammer of the Guardian dropped as a normal item (The same as every other "cosmetic item" thats dropped in raid in every other tier - Garrosh's shoulders, Xavius' shoulders, Maiden's mace, Aggramar's sword, Argus' Scythe. They all were equal to the raid's loot in stats) but this was not to last. Upon logging in to day 2 of Uldir ready to finish progressing, I found my weapon (That had dropped from heroic the night before, 370 item level, a socket. A fantastic start to the expansion) was now weaker in stats then my itemlevel squished Shadowmourne. It was a piece of garbage. Blizzard later reverted this, giving players who had received the weapon when it was a viable piece of gear back those viable stats. Eventually. The item restore page crashed from unfortunate melee who were trying to restore any weapon they might have received whilst levelling, maybe some had kept it.. Personally I apologized to my raid team, and logged off and shortly thereafter stopped playing the expansion.
I came back at the end of Eternal Palace, patch 8.2, to find my weapon still in void storage, still item level 370 with a socket and viable stats. At least I had this unique item, this piece of history to show to people. And I left it, intending to keep it safe.. keep it hidden. Unfortunately, at some point during 8.3 Vision's of N'zoth Blizzard decided to remove the item from players who had it. It took me 6 tickets to find a GM who was capable of understanding what had happened, and to actually confirm that they had in fact removed the item from my (and presumably others) account/s.
LOOT DRAMA.
Kudos to that fellow ret pally brother for stepping up to help heal. I aspire to be as helpful as he.
"If you're not dying, you're not trying."
That first story is still one of my favorite of all time
I broke @ "I stood far away so they could not inspect me." :D
Goodness gracious - the 1st story is absolute M+ gold!
Whoever wrote this story is an actual genius. Had me laughing the whole time :) ty Preach
"You're supposed to save your lock outs for the guild!" Well, this is a more casual approach to saving lock outs.
OMG!!! "I didnt have any drinks!!"
That first story was wonderful! That was wholesome as fuck!
I sadly can't watch this while you're streaming but I cant wait for you to upload them to youtube! Absolutly amazing show mate! I really enjoy drama time!
Thanks, Preach. Please keep making these videos.
From a Yorkshire lass to a Lancashire lad, thank you for you great streams and videos, great fun and very informative.
Oh and I must say' a dimple on the chin, the devil within' lol. Keep up the great work
"If you're tanking you're talking" *sweats in FFXIV tank position.*
Don't need to talk when you're drowning in player commendations
I fucking loved that first one, holy fuck, such great writing
love the show Preach, keep up with the good work !
lolololol not bringing drinks to that m+ is like a stress dream
"Take your pants off." Shit with quarantine I haven't had pants on for like a week.
The between-gritted teeth "CASUAL" moments fucking killed me XD
that first story was wonderful
Hearing these stories make me feel like my crazy in game encounters aren't exclusive to me and slightly better lol
It’s crazy how life works. Similar to the if a butterfly flaps its wings can it create a tornado. If the Guild Leader just kindly asked him to pay DKP instead of demand it, they probably would of killed Illidan in BC and still be a guild to this day.
33:55 "Are you a f**king nerd?" 😂😂😂
oh man.. I really feel for that pally in the first story. I left WoW for several years when MoP came out and when I returned, Legion was in full swing. I remember going in blind into M+ and heroic raids thinking "the mobs just have more health, right. How hard can it be? ezpz, boys!"
Oh how very naive of me.
We need this as a podcast
That third story definitely has a serious economic/philosophical debate in there
That first story....
That guy (healer?) doesn’t want to admit it, but he is VERY MUCH on the shitty side of that accordion!
"chillin' ahead of the curve" with 3 hrs once a week. Guys, I am happy to hear that but still in disbelieve: are there still such a cool people like that?
ps. this episode is just brilliant!
ahead of the curve? yeah, easily. Heroic is puggable starting from week 1. Not easily puggable, mind you, but realistic. It only gets easier as time goes on
Honestly ive found if you're honest and just say something like "I'm kinda nervous but I'm up for it" or something like that... you'd be surprised how many groups are cool with it.
Healing My very first +10 in s1 of dragonflight (i hadn't played more than a few hours since MoP) as a resto shaman...during the wind boss in nokhud, i was STRUGGLING and they kept yelling for me to lust. We wiped and i said "I'm so sorry I'm really nervous this is the highest key I've done" and they all said "no prob we got this" and stuff like that. Then they gave me tips, reminded me to lust before the fight and before the last boss, and we timed the key. These strangers were surprisingly kind and they all congratulated me and the warlock traded me the dagger that dropped at the end for him. People tend to take pity if you just speak up and say "guys... I'm a noob" lol
I went on to get KSM in s1. I didn't play at all in s2, but I'm about 400 away from KSM in s3 on my mistweaver. If that first +10 hadn't gone as well as it did, i might have just given up and moved on to another game
The Judgement: 2:20
Full Casual: 22:26
Stupidest DKP System: 46:00
It's "fell swoop" Preach. Fell is an old word for evil.
for easier time getting into m+ group, sign up for groups with only one person in them.
I literally verbally laughed and cried about the Boifun!!! for all of your portable DVD need as i laugh and cry as i type this!!! ##LMAO
I have a question regarding this ML +10. This blood DK tank, who is he? What blood DK needs a healer in a +10?!
Keep calm and preach on
I'll be honest, I'm in a guild I can't stand (but that's because of the gm), but nobody really wants to leave it and make a new guild. There would be way too much backlash, the gm takes shit extremely personally. We also don't have anyone that's really capable of leadership (due to confidence issues thanks to the gm, or time issues, or just not being the type who can lead). So I'm stuck in a shit position going into shadowlands
I'm what you might describe as a "shit" player. I love the game, and enjoy playing it as a Kaldorei protection warrior. However, getting a handle on the number of mechanics for each boss multiplied by the number of bosses in an instance, combined with the "go go go" approach in random games is a bit too much for me to cope with. If I had a group of friends to game with, who would be patient as I learn, it wouldn't be so bad but causing wipe after wipe wouldn't be fun. I struggle IRL as well with long lists of things I'm supposed to remember. I only got through my university psychology courses because they were multiple guess exams and my guessing game was on point. I mostly play open world by myself. I'll occasionally tackle a dungeon that's way too easy for my power level just to say that I've been there and got the T-shirt. Still, I think it would be a lot more fun to be an effective part of a group.
I know you have plenty of experience as a tank. Would you give me some tips for handling long lists of mechanics for instances? Is there a way to figure things out without wiping the group in the attempt?
Mate, youre overthinking this.
You read about the dungeon bosses, you watch videos and most importantly you try it out until you have the mechanics on muscle memory.
My first 30-40 dungeons tanking were a tragedy. The 41-60 were less so. Until it becomes second nature.
Use add-ons and make an UI that helps you see the information you need (swirls to dodge, threat to keep, casts to interrupt).
You will fail a lot, and ppl might get really angry at you, and if they do blizzard gave you an ignore buttom for a reason.
Try, fail, try again, learn, fail again, try again, not fail. There's no secret, mate.
@@Syrnix Cheers!
@kitties and cream Thank you
Best way to learn is going Day one when everyone is learning the game. Tanking the Dungeons one or two times you can learn most of it.
15:00 a true paladin
A groupe of 5 melee char is my favorite groupe as a holy paladin.
oh man, that Full Casual dude....that guild that stopped mid Ulduar sounds familiar
They were very serious about being CASUAL. One might say they were hardcore CASUAL players!
Our guild is a Casuly semi hardcore
i was in this guild in legion that could be turned into a drama time story
but i dont remember like ANYTHING cus i have an absolutely shit memory
but
the one thing i do remember is at one point the co-gm of our 8 person normal antorus raiding guild with 2 irl friends as gms
decided everyone in the raid should have to transmog their gear to match the tabard colours to try and awe pugs we brought into antorus normal
first of all, this was extremely fucking stupid
second, theres like barely any gear in wow that's appearance is purple and it was basically impossible to do anyways
and no one bothered anyways and the gms got pissed but didnt do anything about it
The closest thing to loot drama I've seen is some poor bastard who got no upgrades for about a month. He didn't even have good gear.
Some casuals, like myself, used to be hardcore until their career became more important than the game.
The same WILL happen to most of you.
I know :( 27 years old here, really wanna hardcore raid in Shadowlands, but I work like a motherfucker from Monday to Friday and I just can invest that amount of time :(
@@ohinianahiuhki9088 same here sadly. Would love to mythic raid again but between kids work and home duties there's just no time lol
@@ohinianahiuhki9088 You can easily clear Heroic in 1-2 raid nights a week, starting at 8 PM each. It will just take a while longer than it takes the more hardcore guilds. It's still a fun experience to raid with your guild buddies, imho.
That's fine as long as you don't try to bring the expectations of the rest of the playerbase down to your level
I died laughing so many times during these stories.
Does anyone have a link to the worst way to get gear video?
@50:00 crazy how wrong mike was here, weird looking back lol
Doing 3 obelisks with boss in PUG 10 with undergeared heals tho? Either they weren't knowing about the M10 affix at all, or they were really, really stupid.
I never did any more than 1 uncleared obelisk, most of the time it was the spider. Those obelisks are simply useful to skip way worse trash, than they house themselves.
Hey preacher, have you ever thought about making these into a podcast form with audio only in addition to the TH-cam upload? I love to listen to drama time while I’m at work but being in the TH-cam app on my phone uses more battery than I’d like. Just a suggestion!
Why is every "casual" guild run as though its a fascist dictatorship?
Can you post the scizzorman playthrough?
When I play something I usually , for a time , experience everything casual and then start to up my game.Let me tell you that if you want to do more difficult things and want to surround yourself with people with the same goal is hard.The ones you seek dont want anything to do with you and the casuals see you as an elitist and also dont want anything to do with you. So , if you want to transition from casual to anything attached to hard and mythic it will take a very long time.
I have been in one casual guild in WoD and they were struggling to clear BRF HC and as you can expect it it was a cesspit guild.Girls were getting loot because they were girls.Couples were getting everything they wanted and if you joined the guild alone you were fucked but I was casual so I enjoyed the killing of the bosses for the first month so I didnt really care. I grew tired of it 1 month after BRF was released so I asked one of the girls was blaming the gear for not doing enough dps to kill Blackhand and I asked "How can you not do enough dps when you have all the ideal gear?"(technically "BiS hc"). She was a feral druid as I was but far far better gear than me and doing less dps than me.......the excuse they kept giving me for getting no gear week after week unless no one needed that piece. The guild master called me out to justify myself and the next second "Actually dont , you're kicked".That was the only sentence I said on guild chat aside of the usual "Hi" or "Sure ,I'll help". I was guildless for the rest of the expansion.
I avoid casual guilds since then. I noticed that people like to criticize but not be critiqued and more often than not they know how to play victim. If you dont express that you feel sorry for being right because you made someone feel bad because you pointed out what they are doing wrong........ you are an elitist. All I do is what I expect someone else to point out to me but I have met only 2 or 3 officers in 7 consecutive years that point out the mistakes and they were not even in the same guild and met them far between in time. I got a better raider because they pointed out mistakes. The rest of them are "you bad , get better" when you are not even the biggest problem.They expected to carry their sorryass friends.
P.S: Very few players in the respective guilds liked those 2-3 officers I am talking about and they are sociable and fun guys and gal they just pointed out what is the problem and who made the mistake and because of that most people didnt like them.They ended up in hardcore mythic guilds.
Man the judgement story made me actually feel so bad xD If anyone here, including the author of that story plays on EU, please reach out, ill be more than willing to do some dungeons with you, show you around a little and take that fear away. I'm the raid leader of a casual CE-chasing guild and i just wanna show you that its rly not that scary
I seem to have just soiled myself
"It's not boyfun, it's boifun"
That might actually make it worse. The GM was so chill probably because he was a Priest
IO score for a mythic 0 reminds me of ilvl req in Wrath pugs demanding you had higher score then the loot in the raids.
I have to make one of these live
unrelated to drama time, but related to your burn-out, how do you manage to repeat the same intro quests so often, every expantion i love leveling my main trough the content, then fly trough it on one of my alt's, get bored by it and give up about half way trough my 3rd character, struggle to finish it up over the next couple weeks, and then wait about half the expantion before touching the rest of my alts leveling process unless i need their crafting proffesion for something then i level them up and feel awfully bored while doing it.
it's weird because i love the grind in WoW, it's just that the main leveling content is not enjoyable for me after the first time.
how do you deal with that both in alpha testing and on retail when leveling yet another alt?
Autism
I don't get what that holy paladin was healing in +10 ML. If healers don't dps, there is almost nothing to do, especially with a dk tank.
I just love the green screen effect on the shirt
I just googled boyfun dvd... its not portable dvds i can tell you that much
If loot drops, and there is no one around to roll on it, do you still owe DKP?
I can't believe people didn't heard about +10 affix at this time. No way it is possible. Absolutely no way! It is literally displayed at m+ tab of bloody ui with the rest of current week's affixes didn't it? Even if you give less than a shit about 10+ you should've been know about that out of simple curiosity. Might not experience that - it is fine, but at least know about that. And yeah, there is nothing wrong to be 3rd in heals as a undergeared pala with DK and Ret in the group, absolutely alright.
42:20 Reverse Casual Card
What's this "traitor" thing that is so popular ....rotflmao...kills me everybtime
I only recently started watching these again. Does Preach accept stories from pservers?
Got some.. juice..
He has done before :) so probably!
I thought that was his real house until he scooted back and his shirt greenscreened.
Loved the intro XD
This is the first instance of a casual elitist I've ever seens
Pre discord days....
So VENTRILLO then!?!
Long time since I listened to drama time
If they want to charge him DKP for that ring, for raiding their lockout
then they owe him weeks and weeks worth of DKP for doing it.
and they all are due some minus DKP for bing absent from raid activity.
DKP run by a "i deserve cause i helped pay for the taxes that made the road that you carry your stuff down" bunch of Karen's. Gquit my friend.
Causal time is great but you please foe the love of God make more history of each class
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Mythic+ before 10 (and at 10, end of the week) is horrible, man.
I did 5 runs. A +6, +7, +7, +8, and +10.
Not a *single one* made time.
Preach pls make blizz stop the evil covenants
To me it always seemed like the most "casual" thing one can do is actually being efficient. Everything goes faster! There's a difference between being chill and just taking the piss :)
imagine not using beacon of virtue.
Should be pay DKP for his wife, if his raid didn't clear those bosses, he would not have farmed that Ring and left that guild and rejoined a new guild and met his Wife. He owes that guild DKP for his WIFE as well ! disgusting :D
Accordion end peasonts! Bow and repent!
Got the popcorn ready
To the person in the first story. You are our hero now. You have to continue going and keep us updated. We're now invested in your quest to glory!
How did the ret pala trade drinks?
It's unlikely they would be from the same realm and even more unlikely that the pala had spare mage refreshments lying in their bags...
my 469 rogue doesnt have an io score above 800 because i dont like doing all the dungeons and only do specific ones.....i was turned down for a mechagon junkyard +4 recently .......the person who made the raider IO addon did just as much to ruin WOW as ACTIBLIZZ has.....its funny that people would rather have a trash player in their group who doesnt know wtf theyre doing and only has a high io score because mommy and daddy have a credit card to buy wow tokens to sell for gold and then pay for carries.....
I don't want someone in my group who can't handle all the dungeons. Makes me wonder how good they can really be.
@@zarblitz then if you were doing a dungeon that isn't on the list of dungeons I do and it was one of the ones I avoid because I think they are just simply shit dungeons like shrine, then I wouldn't be trying to join so I don't understand your point. My capability of doing mechanics in a dungeon I run daily such as underrot are not impacted by my choice to refuse go set foot into a dungeon like shrine
@@poyoloco6501 My point is I wouldn't take someone who simply refuses to do certain dungeons into any dungeon. Why would I when I have my pick of people who have demonstrated they're capable of doing any dungeon?
The whole attitude of refusing to ever set foot in any dungeons is a huge red flag when choosing people for a group. It makes me think that there are mechanics they just can't do so I wonder what else they're incapable of doing. Better to just pick someone who's capable of doing all dungeons to be on the safe side. Because, really, they're all very easy anyway.
lmao this is too good.. 💀
I love when baddies are malding xD
Loot drama with personal loot ?? I got a JUICY one!
Mythic wrathion finally drops another sword. My contain already has the sword, and he is the guy who won it on personal loot! Awesome right? I mean it is not only my BiS , but I have also been using the heroic version for far too long!
Great, we are all set, all is “good in the hood” as some may say!
I meAn of course I his cotank would get it right? I mean he has it already, it is my BiS... right?
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... I mean what could possibly prevent me from receiving this piece of loot right?
I mean it’s not like the weapon has a gem slot, and his old one doesn’t... I mean we can easily farm gouged eyes of N’Zoth and add our own slots right? I mean we are all just returning players who started deep into the expansion when the being able to add a second socket to an already pre-socketed item bug no longer exists right? I mean IT IS a 15 Ilvl upgrade for me, he can easily farm a socket....
Right? Right?...I am not wrong in any of this RIGHT!?!??‼️⁉️
Wrong, wrong, WRONG‼️‼️‼️(insert best Charlie Murphy impression here!!!)
He equipped it instantly.... I feel deep down knowing it was a dickmove, knowing that he had better equip it instantly or he would be unable to deny that I should get the weapon... I mean just because he it a lootwhore doesn’t mean he isn’t a nice guy that could have been forced to see reason!!!
Anyway.... yea still salty about that....
Idk why people are bitching about +7. I've done many of them last few weeks and maybe 2/10 turned out bad or semi-bad.
calling bullshit on the 2nd story, if you can kill mimiron - you can clear all of trial of the crusader